Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Right with Nick Wright A quick emergency
Speaker 1: reaction show to Thunder one fourteen Timberwolves eighty eight in
Speaker 1: a game that sounds like a blowout because it was
Speaker 1: a blowout, but for the better part of three quarters
Speaker 1: it certainly didn't feel like and it wasn't a blowout
Speaker 1: as Minnesota went in, went into halftime with a four
Speaker 1: point lead, had a four point lead around midway through
Speaker 1: the third quarter, and then the Thunder did what the
Speaker 1: Thunder do, which is go on these defense generated runs.
Speaker 1: We talked about it last week that they have the
Speaker 1: ability to go on these fifteen to two runs without
Speaker 1: running any offense. That just forces steel, get a lay up,
Speaker 1: forces steel, get a lay up, force a bad shot,
Speaker 1: get out in transition, and that seemingly is what happened
Speaker 1: the entirety of the second half as they beat the
Speaker 1: Timberwolves seventy to forty in the second half in route
Speaker 1: to a twenty six point victory. And here is the
Speaker 1: problem with discussing that game. The Thunder deserve a ton
Speaker 1: of credit. I compared them glowingly to the nineties Bulls,
Speaker 1: the second version of that, those teams that had Pippin
Speaker 1: and Rodman and Jordan defensively, and that they could just
Speaker 1: swarm you as you had tried to just move the
Speaker 1: ball up the court and wreak so much havoc on
Speaker 1: defense that they could win games that way. I said
Speaker 1: on this show and on the TV show back in
Speaker 1: November after seeing the Thunder in person for the first
Speaker 1: time this year when I was in LA and watched
Speaker 1: Lakers pre Luca, Lakers against the Thunder, that I thought
Speaker 1: the Thunder were the best team in the league. That
Speaker 1: what made me pick the Lakers to win the championship
Speaker 1: was seeing that the Lakers dealt with the Thunders so
Speaker 1: well in their two regular season matchups at the end
Speaker 1: of the year when they got Luke a d Ancic,
Speaker 1: Because I thought the Thunder were the team to beat
Speaker 1: and I thought the Lakers could beat them. And there
Speaker 1: last night, even if you remove just remove garbage time,
Speaker 1: the Thunder played ten guys and got solid contributions from
Speaker 1: nine of the ten. Really, Aaron Wiggins is the only
Speaker 1: one who didn't do much, but Isaiah Joe gave him
Speaker 1: good minutes. Obviously, Cason Wallace gave them good good minutes.
Speaker 1: They didn't even play the other Jalen Williams in that
Speaker 1: man rotation they were running. So you would like to
Speaker 1: have this story be a team that has been intelligently built,
Speaker 1: that has a souper star scoring champ about to be
Speaker 1: League MVP, a you know, kind of up and coming
Speaker 1: second and third options in JDub and Chet and this
Speaker 1: team just absolutely annihilating Minnesota in the Thunder's first conference
Speaker 1: finals game since KD was there. You'd love for that
Speaker 1: to be the story, but it's not the story. The
Speaker 1: story is and there's no way around it. And I
Speaker 1: think you guys know from as I interrupt myself my
Speaker 1: hesitation across sports to blame officials, and I'm not blaming
Speaker 1: the officials for this one, but the officiating is the
Speaker 1: story because the dyke between how the thunder Guard, which
Speaker 1: is awesome playoff physical defense, and the way Shae is
Speaker 1: allowed to be guarded, and the way Shae courts contact
Speaker 1: or initiates contact and then reacts as if there were
Speaker 1: a sniper in the crowd and just flails to the
Speaker 1: ground and time after time after time gets rewarded for
Speaker 1: it is utterly maddening. And we have seen listen, James
Speaker 1: Harden was different stylistically than Shae, but did a lot
Speaker 1: of this same stuff. Obviously, maybe this feels more jarring
Speaker 1: because Harden's teams were not the best defensive team we've
Speaker 1: seen in a quarter century or at least twenty years.
Speaker 1: That was on the other end of the court, roughing
Speaker 1: everyone up. But it is impossible to watch, and I
Speaker 1: like it. By the way, the way Caruso and Dort
Speaker 1: and Wiggins and Wallace and j Dubb are allowed to
Speaker 1: guard and then see on the other end of the court,
Speaker 1: how Shay gilgeses Alexander is treated by the refs as
Speaker 1: if he's playing by a different set of rules. Miles Brown,
Speaker 1: who is someone I quote a lot on this show
Speaker 1: because I think he's a smart guy, and I also
Speaker 1: think he has very funny twitter. He's at Mt Brown.
Speaker 1: He tweeted, the way gets to play football on one
Speaker 1: end of the court and behind museum glass on the
Speaker 1: other is infuriating, And that is exactly how I feel.
Speaker 1: And I do think there is a knock on effect
Speaker 1: from when Shae gets When Shade draws four fouls in
Speaker 1: the first five minutes of the game, not only does
Speaker 1: Jaden McDaniels and Rudy Gobert and others get in foul trouble,
Speaker 1: but and go beart. Listen, go Bert got two fouls early.
Speaker 1: One was offensive, so maybe he's the wrong example. He
Speaker 1: actually didn't fall again after that, but he was kind
Speaker 1: of seemingly knocked out of the game impact wise after
Speaker 1: those opening two fouls. But the knock on effect is this,
Speaker 1: when the refs make it clear immediately we are going
Speaker 1: to reward Shay's flopping because that's what it is. It
Speaker 1: is shameless flopping. Then later in the game and you
Speaker 1: saw it in the second half, guys feel like, well,
Speaker 1: I have to give him space or else he's going
Speaker 1: to draw the foul even if the foul didn't exist,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, shaken totally comfortably step into
Speaker 1: that seventeen footer that he's the best in the league
Speaker 1: at and we have the the bad acting, dopey agenda Layden,
Speaker 1: folks who have been trying to tell you for the
Speaker 1: last five years the league is dying because the league
Speaker 1: had the audacity to be to try to have some
Speaker 1: type of social conscience. Those folks who've been in hiding
Speaker 1: this postseason because the ratings have been off the charts,
Speaker 1: because the games have been great. Those folks obviously have
Speaker 1: not ign knowledge that the first two rounds of these playoffs,
Speaker 1: the ratings were some of the best we've seen in
Speaker 1: more than ten years in this league through the first
Speaker 1: two rounds. Now, part of that is the games have
Speaker 1: just been awesome, but it have that type of rating
Speaker 1: when Steph really only played around, when Lebron only played around,
Speaker 1: when Durant didn't make the playoffs at all, when Giannis
Speaker 1: only played one round is a testament to the fact
Speaker 1: that the audience has enjoyed the way these games have
Speaker 1: been played and officiated. That this postseason we are allowing
Speaker 1: a level of physicality and a level of contact that
Speaker 1: is so unlike what is allowed in the regular season.
Speaker 1: The audience likes it, and the teams have adjusted. And
Speaker 1: it's not even accurate to say that that has applied
Speaker 1: to every team, accept the Thunder, because it absolutely has
Speaker 1: applied to the Thunder's defense. Alex Crusoe's awesome and I
Speaker 1: give him massive credit. Alex Crusoe was basically allowed to
Speaker 1: take out a police baton on Nikola Jokic. The refs
Speaker 1: are like, whatever, man, you're six inches taller than him,
Speaker 1: deal with it fine. I am not complaining about that.
Speaker 1: I thought that was great. But when you compare that
Speaker 1: to the way the refs are saying you have to
Speaker 1: guard Shay and these are laughable plays. And credit to
Speaker 1: Doris and to Richard Jefferson for acknowledging it during the broadcast,
Speaker 1: but these are Shay. It's not even like the old
Speaker 1: hard and hook the guy's arm and then go up it.
Speaker 1: Just take a take a step and act like you
Speaker 1: got hit and collapse to the floor while tossing up
Speaker 1: a shot. Some of the most egregious ones yesterday he
Speaker 1: actually made the shot while falling. There was one truly
Speaker 1: egregious one that the Timberwolves challenged in won. But you
Speaker 1: don't have endless challenges and you don't want to use
Speaker 1: them early, and it's just unbecoming. And I was one
Speaker 1: of the reasons I had a level, not huge, but
Speaker 1: a level of thunder skepticism. Was I wondered, was Shay
Speaker 1: going to get the whistle and the playoffs that he
Speaker 1: got in the regular season and up to this point
Speaker 1: the answer is absolutely yes, if not a better one,
Speaker 1: because he's averaging this well, probably about the same whistle
Speaker 1: his free throws in each game of these playoffs. Seven
Speaker 1: in the first game of the playoffs, he only played
Speaker 1: twenty three minutes because they won by fifty four. In
Speaker 1: game two of the playoffs, when they won by twenty
Speaker 1: nine in Game three, thirteen in the deciding game against Memphis,
Speaker 1: and then nine in Game one against Denver, eleven in
Speaker 1: Game two against Denver, just five in the overtime loss
Speaker 1: to Denver, than twelve, then six, then eleven, then nine,
Speaker 1: and last night fourteen. And this is going to sound
Speaker 1: und sportsman of me, but it is sports and this
Speaker 1: is part of it. If I am Minnesota and this
Speaker 1: is how they are going to I'll give it game
Speaker 1: too and see what type of whistle he's getting. But
Speaker 1: if it's clear any type of contact he is going
Speaker 1: even if he generates it, even if it's borderline fraudulent,
Speaker 1: he's just going to get that whistle, then you guys
Speaker 1: need to decide as a team if we're going to
Speaker 1: get our money's worth on these fouls, because right now
Speaker 1: he is getting the best of all worlds. He's living
Speaker 1: at the free throw line, and he's leaving the game
Speaker 1: physically feeling better than he came into the game. Because
Speaker 1: there's no hard contact. Last night. There wasn't a single
Speaker 1: foul that was like, oh, that's a hard playoff foul.
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about dirty plays. I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about undercutting him anything like that. The audience knows what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about here, and I hate that that's the story.
Speaker 1: But that's the story of Game one, and it is
Speaker 1: why people got And I sometimes I say things on
Speaker 1: the TV show were on here, and I say ahead
Speaker 1: of time that I know I'm gonna get killed for this.
Speaker 1: Don't care. It's just how I feel. I owe the
Speaker 1: audience honesty. So I'm gonna give him honesty. And when
Speaker 1: I sat on the show yesterday, I think the thunder
Speaker 1: of the best team, I think they're going to win.
Speaker 1: I hope the Timberwolves win. Part of it was because
Speaker 1: I do not like this style of play being rewarded.
Speaker 1: I just don't the foulbating, flopping nonsense. And I'm glad
Speaker 1: I got that takeout prior to Game one because I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of America watching that game joined me.
Speaker 1: And here's the other part of it. He doesn't have
Speaker 1: to do this, So take later stage, Jimmy Butler, who
Speaker 1: was not a volume or a good three point shooter
Speaker 1: who was not a crazy explosive athlete, and in order
Speaker 1: for him to be peak effective, he had to be
Speaker 1: drawing fouls. But he drew fouls kind of the old
Speaker 1: fashioned way. He would pump, fake, get you in the air,
Speaker 1: and go up and that can be annoying, but that's
Speaker 1: not grifting. That is it's a frustrating guy to go
Speaker 1: against because you're like, just stay on the ground. He's
Speaker 1: not going up with his first shot, and guys would
Speaker 1: have a hard time with it. Shay is just kind
Speaker 1: of wildly throwing himself into the lane, falling sideways, looking
Speaker 1: for minimal contact, selling it like Daniel day Lewis, and
Speaker 1: being rewarded by it in a playoffs when for other
Speaker 1: guys it has been if you're not bleeding from the nose,
Speaker 1: it probably wasn't a foul and it's just wildly frustrating. Now,
Speaker 1: was that again? Was that the reason the Thunder won
Speaker 1: by twenty six? They outscored him seventy to forty in
Speaker 1: the second half, So was that that was the story
Speaker 1: of the game. But was that the reason the Thunder one. No,
Speaker 1: And we'll get into the reason the Thunder one right now,
Speaker 1: which is every single player on Minnesota except for Julius Randall,
Speaker 1: played poorly, every single one. If you just go down
Speaker 1: the box score, Jaden scored I think five immediate points
Speaker 1: to the rest of the way, got in foul trouble,
Speaker 1: couldn't be as effective, fouled out. Rudy got two thousand
Speaker 1: the first one hundred seconds of the game, went to
Speaker 1: the bench, finished the game twenty minutes, two points, three rebounds,
Speaker 1: no impact. Conley hit the one big three in the
Speaker 1: four in the third quarter to I think put them
Speaker 1: up three, up four. Other than that, nothing A man.
Speaker 1: I think Ant, I'm gonna look real quick. I think
Speaker 1: Ant had sixteen in the first half and then finished
Speaker 1: the game with eighteen. I should have had that in
Speaker 1: front of me. But I can get it right now.
Speaker 1: Series stats for this that game. I want to see
Speaker 1: what Ant had in the second half of this game.
Speaker 1: Ant had five points in the second half, so we
Speaker 1: had thirteen at halftime in the third, yeah, he had
Speaker 1: zero in the fourth. I mean they were getting blown out,
Speaker 1: but I mean going into the fourth, No, they weren't
Speaker 1: getting blown out. That's wrong. They got blown out in
Speaker 1: the fourth. Going into the fourth, they were down ten
Speaker 1: he had, so Ant didn't attack enough. Ant took five
Speaker 1: two point field goals, and you know, wasn't getting teammates
Speaker 1: involved the way he had earlier in the postseason, so
Speaker 1: he wasn't great. Naz Reid has been on I don't
Speaker 1: I think it's too strong to say he's cost himself
Speaker 1: a ton of money. I think that's too early, but
Speaker 1: because he's a free agent this offseason. But nas Reed
Speaker 1: has had two good playoff games this year, Game one
Speaker 1: against the Lakers and Game one against the Warriors, which
Speaker 1: they lost. He was so big for them in last
Speaker 1: year's postseason and in this year's postseason, he has just
Speaker 1: not delivered the way I expected him to. Now, maybe
Speaker 1: that bounces back, but last night was another game. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's won for eleven, zero for seven from three. Dante
Speaker 1: came in hit two big threes at various times when
Speaker 1: the thunder were running away to kind of keep the
Speaker 1: Timberwolves attached. But he's three for fourteen, three for twelve
Speaker 1: from three. And Nikil Alexander Walker, Shay's cousin, they were
Speaker 1: just content leaving him wide open and he couldn't make
Speaker 1: him pay. So nas Dante and Nikile Alexander Walker combine
Speaker 1: to go what is that five for twenty six from three?
Speaker 1: The Thunder as a whole go fifteen to fifty one
Speaker 1: from three. Julius the only one, I mean outside of
Speaker 1: Julius Randall, they're ten of forty five from three. So
Speaker 1: that's not gonna be good enough. Obviously, so none of
Speaker 1: their guys played well enough. But the story is how
Speaker 1: honestly unattractive of a game that was thanks to the way,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, the reps called it with sha and
Speaker 1: how that impacted how they were able to guard him
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Speaker 1: didn't then decide, all right, we're just gonna call it
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Speaker 1: All right, the other thing I want to do quickly
Speaker 1: here is just talk for a moment about Pacers Nicks,
Speaker 1: which is I want to be like very clear, I
Speaker 1: think the Pacers are really good. I think they are.
Speaker 1: They they have been. What did they start the year like?
Speaker 1: Because the Pacers, I'm gonna again this was something I
Speaker 1: probably should have pulled up before, but I'll just do
Speaker 1: it in real time after. So they started the season
Speaker 1: ten and fifteen. Okay, since then they finished the year
Speaker 1: with fifty wins. They're eight and two in the postseason,
Speaker 1: so they are now fifty eight and thirty four. So
Speaker 1: after starting ten and fifteen, they have gone. They have
Speaker 1: They're forty eight and nineteen. Is that right? Yeah? That
Speaker 1: is right. Let me figure out what that is. Over
Speaker 1: the totality of a season, forty eight divided by sixty seven.
Speaker 1: That's right, forty eight nineteen. Yeah, that's a seventy one
Speaker 1: winning percentage. Over the course of eighty two games. That's
Speaker 1: a fifty nine win pace. So they have been an
Speaker 1: excellent team basically for the totality of the season after
Speaker 1: the first twenty five games, so not the totality of
Speaker 1: the season. But you guys understand what I mean. Since
Speaker 1: mid December they've been awesome and since you know, they
Speaker 1: went into the new year sixteen and eighteen, and so
Speaker 1: you guys, they have been again playing at almost a
Speaker 1: sixty win pace for quite some time. And obviously they
Speaker 1: were awesome in Round one and Round two of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They also have seven guys they really trust and an
Speaker 1: eighth they'll play in a pinch, not I mean they'll
Speaker 1: play more than in a pinch, but an eighth and
Speaker 1: Obi Top and that they're fine with. But Haliburton Siakam Turner,
Speaker 1: that is in today's NBA more than competent top three.
Speaker 1: When you have nemhar Nies Smith, Mathin McConnell rounding out
Speaker 1: your real seven man rotation and Obi Top and when
Speaker 1: you need him, that's plenty. So I think the Pacers
Speaker 1: obviously can win. I, however, do not think that they
Speaker 1: are better than the Knicks, and I will take the
Speaker 1: Knicks in this series. I will take the Knicks tonight,
Speaker 1: and I will take the Knicks in six games for
Speaker 1: the series. And I do think last year's series against
Speaker 1: the Pacers for the Knicks is instructive in that that
Speaker 1: series went seven. Julius Randall, who obviously doesn't play for
Speaker 1: the team anymore, but he was out for the series,
Speaker 1: and they didn't have Karl Anthony Towns in that game seven.
Speaker 1: Og Ananobi, you know, was attempted to play, made two shots,
Speaker 1: then could do nothing. You can be like, well, but
Speaker 1: they don't have Hartenstein like they used to. That's true.
Speaker 1: But Hartenstein in that game seven was a total non factor.
Speaker 1: I think he had zero points. And Mitchell Robinson was hurt.
Speaker 1: And obviously Jalen Brunson got banged up in that series,
Speaker 1: and in that game seven, the Knicks were in a
Speaker 1: position in that game seven were precious and Alec Burks
Speaker 1: combined for like fifty some minutes. Duce McBride, if I remember,
Speaker 1: correctly led the team in minutes that game. So they
Speaker 1: are a very different team. He didn't obviously, didn't have bridges,
Speaker 1: didn't have towns. Randal was hurt, so you it's not
Speaker 1: a wash like, well, they didn't have towns, but they
Speaker 1: had Randall, no the and so I think last year's
Speaker 1: series of anything should give the Knicks a little more confidence.
Speaker 1: I also think that the Knicks' demolition of Boston the
Speaker 1: way they did in that Game six should give them
Speaker 1: a little more confidence. And the other thing about that
Speaker 1: playoff series or that Game seven against the Pacers was
Speaker 1: the Pacers, if you remember it, were just shooting lightning
Speaker 1: bolts out there ass the entirety of that game. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was like the best percentage from
Speaker 1: the field of any team in a Game seven. Ever,
Speaker 1: it was something insane. They scored one thirty, They shot
Speaker 1: like sixty five percent from the field. And so I now,
Speaker 1: maybe that's too much time talking about Game seven, but
Speaker 1: we haven't seen Game one yet when we're recording this.
Speaker 1: I like the Knicks tonight. I like the Knicks in
Speaker 1: the series. And now I will say fair is fair
Speaker 1: A lot of the foul baiting stuff that we that
Speaker 1: I just ranted about with Shae if Shae is the
Speaker 1: gold medalist of it this NBA season. Obviously, Brunson is
Speaker 1: the silver medalist, but Brunson has not been rewarded this
Speaker 1: postseason the way Shay is Man. Brunson didn't have a
Speaker 1: single game against the Pacers. I'm sorry against the Celtics
Speaker 1: where he got to ten free throws, shot seven four seven,
Speaker 1: and and so listen, Brunson will do more of the
Speaker 1: hardened stuff, try to hook your arm and do it.
Speaker 1: He'll do less of the I just fell down. But
Speaker 1: that could be a very annoying and very difficult for
Speaker 1: the reps NBA Finals if that's what we get, and
Speaker 1: I think that's what we're gonna get. I think it
Speaker 1: is going to be OKC versus the Knicks, and to
Speaker 1: kind of circle back to where we were on this.
Speaker 1: If this is how the rest of this series is
Speaker 1: going to be officiated, in the Western Conference Finals, you
Speaker 1: are going to have the incredibly rare event of the casual,
Speaker 1: uninvested NBA fan or sports fan rooting for the team
Speaker 1: from New York over the team from Oklahoma City, because
Speaker 1: that is not going to be something fans in fans
Speaker 1: enjoy or or want to see rewarded as the champion
Speaker 1: Now listen. Oklahoma City is now seventy five and eighteen
Speaker 1: on the year. They have one of the best defenses
Speaker 1: in the league has seen in the last maybe the
Speaker 1: best defense league has seen the last twenty years. They're
Speaker 1: incredibly deep, and at some point the NBA is going
Speaker 1: to announce league MVP, and it's going to be Shay
Speaker 1: and it should be Shay said I said throughout the
Speaker 1: year when this, you know, once, not throughout the year,
Speaker 1: but in the final couple months, once there had been
Speaker 1: real evidence that Shae was the league MVP, and rightfully so.
Speaker 1: The thunder are a great, great team. I would just
Speaker 1: I hope for the rest of the conference finals they're
Speaker 1: playing by the same rules as everybody else has been
Speaker 1: this postseason. All right, I'm headed to Indianapolis. I might
Speaker 1: try to do an emergency show or a reaction show
Speaker 1: from Indy. I got to figure out what the tech
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