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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lollie. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson. Well, there's there's other Matt Williamson's out there,

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Speaker 1: so we have to we have to discern there's no

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Speaker 1: other dal Lolly's. I mean it's a there's just not

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Speaker 1: many Lolly's period, although there is Joe Lawy who played

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Speaker 1: soccer in in England. I was going to get myself

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Speaker 1: a he played for Sherwood Forest. I was going to

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Speaker 1: get a Joe Lollie jersey that says Lolly in the

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Speaker 1: back Sherwood Forest. But nobody in America would know what

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Speaker 1: that means.

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Speaker 2: I got you. My son had a Avery Williams and jersey.

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Speaker 2: There you go for a year and there's this fella.

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Speaker 2: I think he plays the NBA. His named Zion Zion. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're not related though, no.

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Speaker 1: Anyways. Yeah, so here we sit on Wednesday. We're a

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Speaker 1: few days out removed now from the Steelers loss on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: One extra day, Yeah, they got an extra day to

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Speaker 1: stew on this one. Uh, there's a practice in hand.

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Speaker 1: I just want to remind everybody though today's practice. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there is no practice report from the Steelers or the

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Speaker 2: Therefore to forget.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the league doesn't force you to come out with

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Speaker 2: So I guess you can't divault secrets. But have you

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Speaker 2: noticed in your years the teams use that practice a

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Speaker 2: little differently. I mean, I'm sure they don't rush any

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Speaker 1: Practice, right right, you know, but not really any day.

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Speaker 1: It's just like an it's a it's a bonus.

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Speaker 2: Day, just an extra Thursday basically, or an extra Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, so they you know, everything else

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Speaker 2: Or habit, unbelievably, and coaches maybe more.

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Speaker 1: And coaches maybe more so. So they fall into a

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Speaker 1: my thirty first year of doing this, I always know

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Speaker 1: from year to year to year to year to year,

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Speaker 1: I know this is this day I'm ann to be

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Speaker 1: that day I'm going to be doing Like I don't

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Speaker 1: I can think four months out I had a doctor's

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. If it was football season,

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Speaker 2: I would know exactly have this window if you fit

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Speaker 2: being great? Otherwise, how about the next week of this window?

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Speaker 1: This week?

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Speaker 2: This window. It's funny because you know when I started

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Speaker 2: The creatures of habit ry. This is where you have

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Speaker 1: Oh, I get it more for college football because when

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Speaker 1: The NFL, this is their job, but it's very, very,

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Speaker 1: the you know, Tuesday for the coaches is let's start

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Speaker 2: Sure, you know that's why next week, at this time

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Speaker 2: So you and I were talking in the lobby before this. Boy,

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Speaker 1: Matt's stat's what he does for the Steelers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I edit Wolf's meat Eater as well, and I like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that will be a little light reading for me,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, so I have like a set

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Speaker 2: Traffic isn't too bad between here and there. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: I'm implementing it, you know, because there was a game

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Speaker 1: So here's the stat. Since two thousand and seven, which

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Speaker 1: So that's a whole bunch. Well, the Patriots. The Patriots

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Speaker 2: Those are I bring up those ones are the best

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Speaker 2: To twelve times they have. Yeah, yeah, so no, twelve

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's remarkable, I mean it is. I mean, so again,

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Speaker 2: A lot of teams the Bengals didn't play their dudes

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was listening to some fantasy shows this morning

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Speaker 2: Grave and yeah those guys, yeah.

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Speaker 1: They the Steelers struggle in that game, and now all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand. I don't understand. I mean, I understand

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Speaker 2: I mean I didn't think Cam Hayward to be hurt

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Speaker 2: But there's more to it than just injuries as well.

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Speaker 2: an ugly loss. Well, Week two might be a little different.

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Speaker 1: It might be a little different. I will let me

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine betting against the Bengals right now either.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, like Steelers aside, I can't believe that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and you know he goes back to that.

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Speaker 2: Right, especially guys have been around the block. I mean,

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of finger pointing right now going on

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Speaker 2: That's just because it's easy.

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Speaker 2: He played anything but a perfect game. Yeah, and he's

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Speaker 1: Fun I disagree I think if Kenny Pickett had played

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Speaker 2: And even if your punt, you're not giving it to

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Speaker 2: You're still you're in the game.

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Speaker 1: play the game how you want to play it or

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Speaker 1: how the way you want it to be played. You

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Speaker 1: have to force your will and force your will on

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Speaker 1: the opponent, not the other way around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and them and the Eagles, to me, are the

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Speaker 2: best teams in the league at forcing teams into their script.

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Speaker 2: And not that the Steelers took the cheese, they just

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Speaker 2: didn't play well and got themselves in a hole that's

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Speaker 2: harder to climb out against than other teams. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: and I am Dale Lawlly. You're listening to the Drive.

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Speaker 1: You're on Steelers Nation Radio, and Matt is starting to

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Speaker 1: look ahead at the Cleveland Browns, the defense with with

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Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz. They blitzed about forty percent of the time

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Speaker 1: last week heavy, which is pretty that's on the high

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Speaker 1: end no matter. You know, when the Steelers were blitzing

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Speaker 1: a lot, they were typically around thirty five thirty eight percent,

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Speaker 1: somewhere in that range. Sometimes they got the forty. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's almost like a little bit of a zone

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Speaker 1: blitz at time because you see Garrett drop fall off

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Speaker 1: and things of that and that drop out and things

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Speaker 1: of that nature.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And what's crazy is doing homework on this is

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Speaker 2: Burrow was the least blitzed quarterback in the whole league

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Speaker 2: last year. And I know he's got a calf, and

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Speaker 2: you know there's new offensive line, but that's a gutsy

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Speaker 2: move to say, nobody blitzes this, dude, We're gonna bring

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Speaker 2: serious pressure almost half the time. And I was gonna

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Speaker 2: look for the numbers, but the bottom line is they

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Speaker 2: were remarkably successful with it too. I mean the blitz

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Speaker 2: not he averaged like two yards a pass on the

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Speaker 2: blitz and some blitz or something. Yeah, really bad.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be incumbent this week on

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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett to get his pre snap reads correct. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: figure out who's coming, where the where's the ball have

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Speaker 1: to go? You know, in those blitz situations because typically

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Speaker 1: you throw into the.

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Speaker 2: Blitz typically right, and who knows, well that will they

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Speaker 2: look at this this team the same and say we're

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Speaker 2: gonna blitz all year long, that's who we are. Or hey,

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Speaker 2: we invested heavy and d Lineman. We don't think we

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Speaker 2: have to. Miles Garrett's gonna get home either way. And

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Speaker 2: but you're right, I mean Picket's gonna have to find

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Speaker 2: that answer out before the snap cut.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and if they're showing it to they

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Speaker 1: then drop out of it, you know, those kind of things. Again,

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Speaker 1: what they're trying to do is just create a little

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Speaker 1: bit of indecision with the quarterback they only got. I mean,

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Speaker 1: for all the blissing that they did, now, they hit

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Speaker 1: Burrow a bunch of times, they did, but they only

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Speaker 1: had two sacks.

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Speaker 2: I would say, I don't think they sacked them all

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Speaker 2: that much. And he's sack prone, yeah and all. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he'll hold the football, but they did get a lot

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Speaker 2: of pressure on him and got them. They made him

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Speaker 2: forces the ball out of his hands.

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Speaker 1: I think Garrett, I think Garrett had five quarterback hits

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Speaker 1: in Zidarius Smith had four, So they got nine quarterback

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Speaker 1: hits out of those two guys.

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Speaker 2: Out of those two guys. So along with the pass rush,

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Speaker 2: you know story here, everyone knows whole Miles Garrett is.

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Speaker 2: He had sixteen sacks last year. You know their second

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Speaker 2: leading sacker was I would never I don't know. It

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Speaker 2: was Tavon Bryant, who's the former first round pick who's

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Speaker 2: not even I think in the league right now. He

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Speaker 2: had three. I mean, you talk about a gap from

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Speaker 2: stude pass rusher to nothing else. And Garrett has never

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Speaker 2: played with a teammate that got ten or more sacks.

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Speaker 1: So two years ago, Clowney I think had eighty maybe nine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Smith's done it three times in his career,

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Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, so that was obviously a concerted effort

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Speaker 2: in the offseason. Is to go get pass rushed slash

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Speaker 2: d lineman that can stop the run too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just looking at at you know how this game

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Speaker 1: sets up. You know, I think it's the Steelers edge

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Speaker 1: rushers against the two weak parts of their offensive line,

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Speaker 1: Cleveland's offensive line and for the.

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Speaker 2: Steelers, Wills is not a great player, folks, No, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's an average left tackle that has not lived up

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Speaker 2: those draft building.

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Speaker 1: On that side of the ball that you know, they

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Speaker 1: have to slow down the Steelers edge rushers. On the

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Speaker 1: other side of the ball, the Browns will move those

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Speaker 1: two guys around.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, kind of like Bosa where Garrett'll do left

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Speaker 2: or right or as you mentioned, he played some off

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Speaker 2: the ball linebacker and attack the A gaps. That's new

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Speaker 2: for him. I mean that was four or five snaps,

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Speaker 2: but it was something that's.

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Speaker 1: Something you didn't have to deal with before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Smith is not just an end. He'll kick

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Speaker 2: inside quite a bit, especially in sub package stuff. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: identifying what they're throwing at you is going to be

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Speaker 2: key for this O line. Picket Cole I mean everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So you know, I think identifying those two

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Speaker 1: guys obviously is key looking at it. They didn't have

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Speaker 1: Denzel Ward, their top nuarter back, travel last week, so

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Speaker 1: I think they'll play sides.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine, but they're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Play a lot of press.

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Speaker 2: They will. They trust their corners. Emerson and Ward are

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Speaker 2: the outside guys, and k Newsome, the first round pick

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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, is the slot.

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Speaker 1: But he's not a class but he's slot. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's forced there because the other two are

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Speaker 2: just better on the outside than him. So it doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean he's bad. I mean their corners are pretty good,

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Speaker 2: but he's a little miscast there. Now. I wonder with

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Speaker 2: the Steelers receivers because you and I had a short

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Speaker 2: conversation about this today. When Deontay went out, Austin became Deontay.

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Speaker 2: He didn't do some slot, some outside, you know, he

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Speaker 2: just as a one for one filler for Deontay. And

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Speaker 2: I looked at it today. Pickens and Austin alignment. We're very,

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Speaker 2: very high outside the numbers where Robinson was a slot.

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Speaker 2: But we know Austin, I mean, they all can do everything,

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Speaker 2: but we know Austin also is very slot capable. I'm

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Speaker 2: curious how they handle that too. You pretty much know

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Speaker 2: where the re Browns corners are going to be.

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Speaker 1: I asked Austin about that today and he said, look,

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Speaker 1: we you know, we did what we needed to do

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Speaker 1: in game to get out of the game. We didn't

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Speaker 1: they didn't want to have to. Okay, let's redraw this now.

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Speaker 1: You know, you go inside, you go outside. We know

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Speaker 1: you've been you know. Yeah, it just you just made

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Speaker 1: it easier to do it that way.

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Speaker 2: I think Robinson's been outside a lot in his career.

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Speaker 2: He knows how, he knows what he's doing, you know.

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Speaker 1: You know. I think you you kind of mix a

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Speaker 1: match and maybe try to get the matchups that you want.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking, is do you want Pickens

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Speaker 2: on ward who's smaller, you know, and if you're align

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Speaker 2: him to Kenny's right.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind having Robinson on Ward either, because again

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Speaker 1: that that size is an issue.

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Speaker 2: I don't look at any of their corners and say, boy,

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Speaker 2: they're slow, but none of them is as fast as Austin.

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Speaker 2: So I think receiver alignment will be interesting because they

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Speaker 2: could switch it in a drop of the hat, but

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Speaker 2: it is a new defensive coordinator. Last year they were

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Speaker 2: at the top of the league at not staying inside

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Speaker 2: This year Week one indicates that's changing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do know this. So when I was working

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Speaker 1: on the story last year on George Pickens, after once

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Speaker 1: a season started and I started looking into his high

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Speaker 1: school career a little bit.

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Speaker 2: O pretty good.

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Speaker 1: He played against Newsom in high school really because Newsom

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Speaker 1: went to h what's the academy down IMG? He went

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Speaker 1: to IMG Academy in Florida and Pickens was playing in

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Speaker 1: Georgia and I'm sorry, Alabama and the number one high

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Speaker 1: school team in Alabama. And so they played against each

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Speaker 1: other in high school and that a battle. Pickens ate them,

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Speaker 1: ate that defense alive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, yeah, he knows them. A lot of these

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Speaker 2: guys know each other.

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Speaker 1: And they had like the multiple like future college's.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they weren't even the two stars on the field,

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Speaker 2: two great players, but there's probably twenty of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they have a little bit of a history

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Speaker 1: there that goes back.

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Speaker 2: So I bet Pickens sees the least of Newsom though

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Speaker 2: you assume, and he stays in the slot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but I wouldn't mind maybe getting that

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Speaker 1: match up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: No, And I know Ward's their best guy, but I

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Speaker 2: think you mentioned this yesterday jump balls go five nine.

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Speaker 2: He is short. I mean, he's their best corner. I

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Speaker 2: don't think he's a special corner. He's a good player.

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Speaker 1: Like, if I'm the Steelers and I'm looking at this,

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Speaker 1: I want to get everybody but Calvin Austin matched up

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Speaker 1: on Ward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. I mean, of course Austin

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Speaker 2: could run by him if given a free release. That

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Speaker 2: he can run by anybody. But yeah, I think i'd

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Speaker 2: want the other two muscling him more. Yeah, it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we'll see it wouldn't surprise me to

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Speaker 1: maybe see a little bit more of Anthony McFarland.

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Speaker 2: Things.

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Speaker 1: You know they were there were times we saw it

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Speaker 1: throughout training camp where they would put him on the

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Speaker 1: field with a running with a back in the in

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Speaker 1: the backfield, whether you know, whether it be Nauseie Harris

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Speaker 1: or Jaylen Warren and let him kind of be the

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Speaker 1: slot receiver.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how many million conversations have we had this

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Speaker 2: offseason about putting your build your favorite five skill position guys. Well,

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Speaker 2: no offense to Deontae and it's actually a compliment. He's

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Speaker 2: almost always going to be he was one of the five.

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Speaker 2: He's almost Him and George are going to be out

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Speaker 2: there in Friar Remooth. They're gonna be out there pretty

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Speaker 2: much every time, which kind of only leaves you get

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Speaker 2: two wild cards to change things up. Well, now you

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Speaker 2: get another. And if you've already practiced that pony stuff

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Speaker 2: with two backs on the field, Browns haven't seen it

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Speaker 2: from you. You know, what kind of looks do you

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Speaker 2: get from that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, McFarland, I think he's, you know, a pretty good

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Speaker 1: receiving back. That was That was one of the things

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Speaker 1: on him, you know, coming out of school, is that

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Speaker 1: you know, this guy's a pretty pretty good receiver.

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Speaker 2: Certainly show up in practice the training camp, Yeah, downfield,

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Speaker 2: not just screens and dump off.

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Speaker 1: And I would want to test those Browns lineback Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna put a running back out in the slot.

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Speaker 1: Do you move one of your linebackers out there against him?

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Speaker 1: Because he's going to destroy those linebackers.

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Speaker 2: And we know going back to last year, explosives or

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Speaker 2: a problem with this team. But McFarland and Austin are

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Speaker 2: highly explosive young athletes. Yeah, it's another way to maybe

652
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: create a big play.

653
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Speaker 1: And if they take one of the if they don't

654
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Speaker 1: take one of the linebackers out there, or if they

655
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: do take a linebacker out there, now you've taken somebody

656
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Speaker 1: out of the box. Maybe you run the football a

657
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit more, not easily, yeah, you know.

658
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Speaker 1: And if it's you know, so, I think you can

659
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Speaker 1: create some mismatches or matchups that you may like doing

660
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Speaker 1: something like that a little bit. Because if you've got

661
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Speaker 1: two backs on the field, chances are the Browns are

662
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: going to come out look at that and say, oh,

663
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna playass, probably gonna play bass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But if McFarland's truly a slot, you know, or

665
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: a wide out in that instance, that's what's funny about

666
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. And the Niners are a great example.

667
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Speaker 2: Is we're gonna trot out our pony package, two backs,

668
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: a tight end, and two receivers. Okay, but in our

669
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: eyes as the offense, we see McFarland as a receiver.

670
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: We know there's an RB next to his name and

671
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: a two six on his back, and everyone's gonna call

672
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: him a running back. That's where I get our advantage,

673
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Speaker 2: you know, and it makes sense. One thing I don't

674
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Speaker 2: historically love about Pony is if you get bass with

675
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Speaker 2: two running backs on the field, one of your running

676
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: backs better block. And I think that. I know Warren

677
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: and Harris, do you know. I mean they're not Dan Krider.

678
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: I mean they're not you know, they're not hammerhead lead fullbacks,

679
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: but they're not bashful about it. But you can lose

680
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Speaker 2: a blocker if they play heavy stuff. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying you do it and hand

682
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Speaker 1: the bald Anthony McFarland a bunch of times. That's not

683
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Speaker 1: what we're saying here. Sure you know, I still think

684
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Speaker 1: you play one back in that situation. But you can

685
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Speaker 1: split either Harris or Warren out wide and have McFarland

686
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Speaker 1: in the backfield. Absolutely, Or you can do it the

687
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Speaker 1: other way and just kind of again see what the

688
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Speaker 1: defense shows you. When you do that, maybe you get

689
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Speaker 1: a matchup that you that you really like, or you

690
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Speaker 1: keep nooseome off the field.

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00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. They're their nickels better than their base.

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Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, because you're keeping some of

693
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Speaker 1: those defensive tackles, as you mentioned, Zadarius Smith kicks inside

694
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Speaker 1: in their nickel and domit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I think you want to It wouldn't

696
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: be great, wouldn't be terrible to keep them out of

697
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Speaker 2: nickel because those are three good corners.

698
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, three good corners, and that's probably there. They get

699
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: their three best pass rushers on the field as well,

700
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Speaker 1: because they bring in the guy they got from Houston.

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00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, a Conquo Butcher's name. But yeah, I don't know if.

702
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Speaker 1: Whereas their defensive tackles don't rush the passer.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, especially Ikea. I don't know how much he

704
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: played in Week one, but I mean he's just a

705
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: pure fire plug in the middle. Yeah, the rookie. So interesting.

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Speaker 2: I also think their linebackers and safeties are okay. I

707
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: think the middle of the field is more, well way

708
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: more susceptible than in week one. You know, you know,

709
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Speaker 2: I don't see a great matchup for them with Friar Mooth.

710
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: I mean again, they're okay, and Thornhold's a decent player.

711
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: Delpit had a really good game. I like them coming

712
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: out of school. Joka is athletic and covers a lot

713
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 2: of ground, but unproven. And then the other linebackers are

714
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: just guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at their snap count here. So Garrett

716
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: played forty three snaps, okay, as did a Woshu Coromoa.

717
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: They both that was seventy seven percent of the defensive

718
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: snaps for them. That was the highest or I'm saying

719
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Speaker 1: Newsome was it ninety eight percent, Denzel Warp was at

720
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Speaker 1: ninety five, Emerson was at ninety one percent.

721
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Speaker 2: Okay, So I just pulled it up too from a

722
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Speaker 2: different perspective. But this is misleading because the Bengals live

723
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: in eleven with three receivers on the field. But it

724
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: is a little telling and that they they were in

725
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: nickel eighty seven percent of their snaps against the Bengals

726
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: and rarely rarely in base.

727
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Speaker 1: I want them in base, I want Yeah.

728
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Speaker 2: So maybe you want to push them to heavier personnel

729
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: with two backs, two tight ends. Washington played a lot

730
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Speaker 2: of snaps against the Niners. Maybe you see that again,

731
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Speaker 2: you know, so that adds up to me too, You

732
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Speaker 2: know that they're even the fact that you're playing dime

733
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Speaker 2: or nickel that heavy with the lead and not going

734
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Speaker 2: to dime indicates that, I mean, you would think that

735
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Speaker 2: you see more of that against the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at this. The rookie defensive tackle didn't play

737
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Speaker 1: at all.

738
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Speaker 2: He must have been inactive, because I remember yesterday. I

739
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Speaker 2: was curious about that because yesterday when we were finishing

740
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Speaker 2: up the show, you ran through the transactions around the league,

741
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Speaker 2: and I think they bumped the defensive tackle up. Yeah,

742
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Speaker 2: and the first thing I said was, I wonder if

743
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: they're not happy with Eca.

744
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: That might be because Jordan Elliott played twenty six defensive snaps.

745
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Speaker 1: Shelby Harris played twenty three.

746
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Speaker 2: I forgot they picked him up.

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Speaker 1: So those guys were basically because if you look at it,

748
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Speaker 1: Garrett played forty three snaps, Zadarius Smith thirty seven, Dalvin

749
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Speaker 1: Tomlinson thirty five, and then those other guys were all

750
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Speaker 1: under fifty percent. A clonk Wo played sixty one percent

751
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: of the snaps.

752
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: And no wondering game like that. The last couple series

753
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: is Garrett just joking on the sideline with his helmet.

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Speaker 1: That might have been twenty four to three. That's why

755
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: they did, That's why you only played seventy seven percent.

756
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Speaker 2: Of Maybe you don't want those guys playing at the end.

757
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Speaker 1: But yeah, so I wanted I don't want them putting

758
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Speaker 1: their best guys on the field.

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Speaker 2: No, I think they're nickels, probably their best with three corners.

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Speaker 1: And if they do, I want it to be third

761
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: and three, you know, yea, not third nine.

762
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, where they got a stress on the other line too.

763
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: So no, you gotta get back to run the ball.

764
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Speaker 2: I mean, this was one of the worst run defenses

765
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Speaker 2: in the league last year, and I'm sure it'll be

766
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: better Tomlinson, et cetera. But I want to see it first.

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00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to show me.

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00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bengals had no opportunity to run the ball either.

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Speaker 1: And even though they you know, they didn't have much

770
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Speaker 1: of a shot to run the ball, when they did

771
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Speaker 1: run it.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't bad.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't awful.

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00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't bad.

775
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: Right, just looking at at uh you know what what

776
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: mixing had I think it was.

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00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: I think the had like eighty yards or something like that.

778
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Speaker 1: They ended up with seventy five rushing yards the average

779
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: three point eight to carry. Again, if you can do

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Speaker 1: something along those lines of mixing better, yeah, something a

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00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: little bit better than that, then you're you're fine.

782
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: Then I do think you want to save your defense

783
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: as much as possible. Too. They were on the field

784
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: a lot last week and you know, no Cam obviously, and.

785
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Speaker 1: I think you can get positive they're not going to

786
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: blow up some runs. I don't believe the way that

787
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. So

788
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Speaker 1: if you're getting instead of taking a two yard loss,

789
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: you're getting a two yard gain. Okay, we'll line up

790
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: and do it again. But if you you know, that

791
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: was a thing of the Steelers first four carries against

792
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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. They had four carries for two yards.

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Speaker 2: I said, that was so uncharacteristic, Like how many times

794
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: have we talked about in the off season. Okay, their

795
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: running game isn't explosive, but it's like the best in

796
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Speaker 2: the league of not being negative and they were going backwards.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you can't have happen. And we're going

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Speaker 1: a football signed by TJ. Watt. The question today, Ben

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger or Terry Bradshaw who had the most pass completions

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Speaker 1: as a Steeler in a game against the Browns? Oh? Wow,

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Speaker 1: that shouldn't be all that hard for this.

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Speaker 2: It isn't. But initially, like who had the most completions?

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00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm like Ben in a game I don't know against

818
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Speaker 2: the Browns. Oh okay, I think I'm going Ben. I

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Speaker 2: mean Ben's numbers against the Browns.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm not giving away the answer here, but

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Speaker 1: I will say this. A couple of years ago I

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Speaker 1: looked up and this was, of course before Roethlisberger's final season,

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Speaker 1: but Roethlisberger average averaged more completions per game than Bradshaw

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00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: averaged attempts.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense. It's completely different than one's better than

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Speaker 2: the other. It's just that what was asked of them

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Speaker 2: at the time. Yeah, it's funny because I just read

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Speaker 2: this right before we went live. Ben was twenty two

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Speaker 2: to one versus Browns. Yeah, twenty two losses, one tie

830
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: versus Browns. Pretty good, pretty good, and they were in

831
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Speaker 2: him and Tomlin together were undefeated against them.

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Speaker 1: And that doesn't count the game where he came off

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00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: the bench. Oh right, Landry Jones and set an NFL

834
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Speaker 1: record for most yardage through who didn't start the game.

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Speaker 2: So Landry Jones gets that win, right, Landry Jones got

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Speaker 2: that win.

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Speaker 1: Been through for like he was three hundred and fifty

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00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: four yards or something like that, three eighty seven whatever

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Speaker 1: it was. He just lit them up in about three

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Speaker 1: and a half quarters.

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite on a bad foot Ben Brown

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00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 2: things is he was the winningest quarterback in that stadium

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00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 2: for such a long yeah, for like a two decades,

844
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Speaker 2: and the most wins of any quarterback in the not

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Speaker 2: even his own stadium for like twenty years. That's insane.

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Speaker 2: I Mayfield broke it.

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Speaker 1: Or yeah, Baker Mayfield's got like maybe two more than right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not like he blew him away.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable. He played there once a year. Guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we mentioned the TJ watch stats against the Browns yesterday.

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00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: It's crazy and there's he's put up against them.

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00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: Now.

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00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: Gie Harris has had some success against Cleveland as well.

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00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 1: He averages over one hundred total yards per game against Cleveland. Also,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 2: It's uh he's waiting four times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. In four career games against the Browns, he's averaged

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Speaker 1: one hundred and three point eight rushing yards per game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I mean he had one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: eight one in his rookie year. Yeah. One of them

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Speaker 2: was like forty or fifty or like fifty or sixty,

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00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: and then the other ones are right around one hundred, yeah,

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Speaker 2: something like that. So No, he's done really well against him,

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Speaker 2: and I kind of feel like he needs to be

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Speaker 2: the foundation on Monday night.

866
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think you you kind of lean

867
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: on him, You lean on you, let your offensive line

868
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: go out there and establish a little bit of something,

869
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: let them lean on the on the Browns defensive line.

870
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: And again, if you're going to play Zadarius Smith at

871
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, I want my guards hitting him and leaning

872
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: on him and bump and knocking him around. He's again,

873
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: he's a two and fifty and sixty pound guy.

874
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 2: I mean, even if it's third and four, third and five,

875
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 2: the run into inside power you know, inside zone or whatever,

876
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: and you know, try to knock him back. I mean,

877
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 2: you don't have to always throw on quote throwing downs.

878
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I mean you can. You can do that,

879
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: but particularly if you're in an advantageous situation. Let's say

880
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: you're on your the other side of the fifty, you're

881
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: on their side of the fifteen. Yeah, right, Okay, we

882
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: get four here on third and five, we're gonna go

883
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: for it again because we think we can run the

884
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: ball and.

885
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: These guys second and nine and he bumps inside. But

886
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean you have to throw, right.

887
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, run it again? Yeah, ten times for forty one yards.

888
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: Last week to see the Steelers ran the football. That

889
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: was the fewest rushing attempts in the NFL. Can't do

890
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: that again, I mean, yeah, I understand game script was,

891
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: oh no, no doubt.

892
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: They didn't have a lot of choice when the way things.

893
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: Couldn't stay on the field.

894
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: But you could spin the wheel, throw a dart and

895
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: whatever game it hits in this season, I don't care

896
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: if it's the Texans or Arizona. And you said that

897
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: Steelers only ran ball ten times like now they lost.

898
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not enough.

899
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: No, it's not gonna work.

900
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: Not enough. Just looking at some of these other stuff

901
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: stuff here, I'm looking at the stat package here from

902
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: the NFL Sean Watson oh and two in his career

903
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: against the Steelers. Yeah, lost both games in his seven starts.

904
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: Now with the Cleland Browns, fifty seven point eight completion percentage,

905
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: he's averaging one hundred and seventy nine point four passing

906
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: yards per game, six point three yards per pass attempt,

907
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: seventy seven point four passer rating. Really bad when you

908
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: look at what he averaged in his career with the Texans,

909
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: sixty eight point one percent completion percentage, two hundred and

910
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: seventy two point four yards per games, almost one hundred

911
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: yards per game, more eight point four yards per pass

912
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: attempt at one oh five point one passer rating. That's

913
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: over fifty three starts. So that's a bigger that's a

914
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: big and I can't help but wonder Texans play indoors.

915
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: I think he played indoors. In Indianapolis in that division. Guy, Yeah,

916
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is a nice warm weather game for them. The

917
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: only real time you would have an opportunity to play

918
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: cold weather games for the majority of your games was

919
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 1: when you played the Titans. And Nashville is not exactly

920
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: a you know, a rough place to play.

921
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 2: Or you know, late like anyone you could be. You

922
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: might have a December game in New England or New

923
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: York or whatever like anybody else, but not regularly. And

924
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: that goes back to college. So I mean, I think

925
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 2: it's worth noting.

926
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: I mean eleven, let's say eleven of his games every

927
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: year with the Texans were warm we're warm weather games

928
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: or dome games.

929
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know if he's good or

930
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: bad in weather. I know he's one good last week

931
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: or it was really bad last year in weather and

932
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: he was really bad into the Browns. And I know

933
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: he played with some good players in Houston, but the

934
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: supporting cast is better than the his Houston teams. Yeah.

935
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: I think he overlapped with Andre Johnson at the end there,

936
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 2: but it was Hopkins. Yeah right, So I mean he

937
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: has he had guys there, but this is a good

938
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: group of receivers.

939
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: It is. It is his propensity to hold the football,

940
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: though I think it shows up more in weather.

941
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: Probably.

942
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: You know, when you try I'm gonna hold the ball

943
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 1: here and try to get the ball down the field,

944
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: the ball sales on you a little bit, or you know,

945
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: just that that little thing where boy, if if I'd

946
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: have thrown that in the dome, might have completed it

947
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 1: quite possible.

948
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: He doesn't have a cannon for an arm. I mean,

949
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 2: he's a good passer, he just doesn't have a rocket

950
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: launcher to you know, cut the wind, cut the elements.

951
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: I know it's five days away, but do we have

952
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: any sort of inclination on what weather's supposed to be, Like.

953
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: I have no clue, No, I have no guy, I

954
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 1: assume it's going to be typical September weather. Yeah, sure, yeah,

955
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: seventies and you know maybe who knows. I don't.

956
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to say I don't think weather hurts

957
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: them dramatically as a passing team. It does, Yeah, I

958
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 2: mean Cooper is notoriously not a weather guy either.

959
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean I think you know, when you

960
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: when you play in the Northeast. I mean that's why

961
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 1: they went and got Nick Chubb.

962
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: Oh sure, you know to to invest in in guards

963
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 2: and yeah, yeah, that's the way they built the way

964
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: they are.

965
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: So we'll see, you know, how that works out. I

966
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: want to force them. I'm going to stack the line

967
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and say, okay, DeShawn, you want to throw

968
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: in early downs. You know have added but we're not

969
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: gonna let Nick Chub beat us.

970
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can. I mean, he's a fantastic football player.

971
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: He's a great ball carrier. You mentioned the weakness at tackle,

972
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: which I agree with, but the strength at guard is

973
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: probably you know, without Cam Hayward in the mix, it

974
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: certainly favors the Browns their centers. Okay, yeah, Post sick.

975
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: I mean he was kind of a throwaway from Seattle

976
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: and they revived his career last year.

977
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he got It's amazing how that works. You

978
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: put two Pro Bowl guards on either side of them,

979
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: and oh, hey, he's not a bad player. They're not

980
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 1: being asked to do a whole lot.

981
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: And you run the ball a lot, do what you want. Yeah,

982
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: and their O line coach is very respected to but

983
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: I don't know the Post. It's a great player. I

984
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 2: mean he's fine. They gave him money this offseason.

985
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, And it gonna be interesting to see

986
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: how the Steelers deploy that defensive line this week. Again,

987
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be necessarily a one

988
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: guy job replacing Cam Hayward. But do you try to

989
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: play more Nickel?

990
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, they do vary their offensive

991
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: personnel groupings a lot. I mean, you don't see two back,

992
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 2: you will see zero back at time. Yeah, you'll see.

993
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: I just saw this about an hour ago. Last year,

994
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: they were the top of the league in six offensive

995
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: line sets. Last week they were the top of league

996
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: and six ozer line sets, but they lost alignment. Yeah,

997
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if they can do that anymore, So

998
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: that's interesting to me.

999
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 1: I assume James Hudson would be that guy if.

1000
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: They I would think so. Now, I don't know if

1001
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: it was Jones or not before the injury, because and

1002
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 2: they played three tight ends consistently. I mean two years

1003
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: ago they were way way high in thirteen personnel, one back,

1004
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: three tight ends. But that was before they had like

1005
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper and those guys. But even this past week,

1006
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 2: their tight end snap counts three guys play a lot.

1007
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just looking here at their snap counts.

1008
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 2: The joke, who's the top guy?

1009
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: But Conklin played They they's James Hudson four snaps and

1010
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: Nick Harris two snaps.

1011
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah Harris is an interior player. But maybe they

1012
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: movedmped everybody else out of a spot. Okay, okay, Yeah,

1013
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: they do like the six to ozer lines.

1014
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: So they did it six times last week basically.

1015
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: So if I'm them, I might do more of that

1016
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: without Cam Hayward in the lineup. Maybe that forces you

1017
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: to play louder Milk when you don't want to, or

1018
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 2: you know, the Steelers aren't flushed with three hundred pounders

1019
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 2: at the moment. No they're not.

1020
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean they have guys.

1021
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: Are they as strong as it could be?

1022
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, And if I'm the Steelers, maybe I go to

1023
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: that three safety package against that possibly possibly depending on

1024
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: who who the skill position guys are on the field.

1025
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: Or somehow bring in a Herbig or a Golden somehow.

1026
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. That way, Absolutely, we're gonna get

1027
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: to another break. He is Matt Williams and I am

1028
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: Dale Allett. You're listening to the drive here on Steelers

1029
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We're gonna take another break. We'll come back

1030
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