WEBVTT - #510 - Richie Rich 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:01.680 You got your man, Richie rich Man live on the 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:03.800 West Coast down here on the LA side of things, 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:04.960 and you could check me. 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:07.160 Out with my man my Ace Boulet. 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:13.360 Care all right, man, look it's the Boot black Cat Podcast. 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:16.720 We got a special guest in here, Oakland legend, Richie. 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:17.799 Rich what's that? What you kid? 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:18.400 Man? 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:21.320 I'm good, brother, I ain't gonna lie you. You always 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:22.960 had one of my favorite voices when I was going up, 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:26.440 like rather be one of my favorite Upac songs ever. Okay, 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.159 and it was so dope to see, Like I was 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:32.519 like scrolling and I see you pop up on at 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.600 the pergola with the Russell Right. You have this legendary 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:39.040 unfortunate moment for you where you. 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:39.600 You say me pop up and pop down? 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:42.279 Yeah you I mean you heard like you broke up 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:45.320 while you were Toro lower Patello. Yeah, so you fall out, 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.879 but you don't stop rapping, come on, and it becomes 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.920 like this like viral legendary moment. 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:55.960 Hey, I'm man, I'm be honest with you. That shit. 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:59.280 I mean, I didn't have no choice really, like. 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:01.240 But the dread had to be running for you to 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:01.760 just keep going. 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:03.640 I didn't even feel the leg To be honest with you, 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:05.760 I didn't feel the leg. I knew my verse was coming. 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.440 Russ was trying to pick me up, and I got 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.360 people talking about, dude, watch that, Watch how you snatched 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.880 the mic from the Russell Like you just snatched. I 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.040 took the mic and just got to it and then 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:18.440 I started freestyling. 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.000 What happened in the When I go back and look 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:22.920 at it, I'd be like, damn, I was on point. 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.800 You was on your was Legendar say? 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:26.280 Legendar? 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:30.600 Yeah, you're one of like the very few people who 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:35.039 were like on the ground level of like the hip 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:36.240 hop scene in the Bay Area. 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:38.480 You were in a group of four one five frour 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:39.120 one five. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.160 Back in the day. When when would I guess when 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.600 did you initially? When did that group start? 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.760 Just to get people a timeline, because I think the 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:48.840 only guy we always reference like back to the eighties 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.200 is like too short the early nineties, you know, eighties 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.400 is like short, But like you were very much a 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.040 part of that early early Bay Area movement as well. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.200 We came right after Short four one five We popped 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:01.680 in eighty nine. That's when we dropped that record, and 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:05.200 uh it rolled into the summer of nineteen ninety. Uh 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.880 so it was nineteen eighty nine when we dropped a 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.840 full on five record and then uh it carried the 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.200 ninety's funny you say Short was the only one, and 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.160 he was. He was our target. That's who we was. 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.600 We was gunning for Short because he was the dude, 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.400 you know what I mean. So he was the that's 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:25.400 that was the and I remember Short used to be like, man, y'all. 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:25.720 Got a lot of ways. 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:27.600 Y'all got little ways to go before y'all can fuck 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:29.560 with me, you know. And then we ended up dropping 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:31.320 a fall on Fire record. We was at a car 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:33.680 wash one day. Short pulled up and. 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.000 We was knocking the record. He was listening. He was listening. 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.840 He looked at me. He said, all right, man, he said, 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:40.119 y'all got to town right now. 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:42.800 He went in there and cooked that goddamn ghetto up 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:44.480 and came back right back backing. 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:48.119 You feel you guys inspired you He's like someone coming 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:48.360 from me. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.639 I got to keep going. Yeah, but you know, dog man, 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:53.200 that's one of my homeboys. 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:53.359 Man. 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:58.600 He he brother. Yeah, yeah, man, that was brother important. Fortunately, man, 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:02.120 that's crazy. I think it was well, yeah, early yesterday 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.200 morning and Wayne low Man, good dude, good dude. But yeah, 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.760 short he pioneered that that thing, and uh, we came 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.480 behind him. There was other artists that were still rocking, 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.760 but four one five and we had no clue bro 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:16.400 that that ship was gonna do what it did, you 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.280 know what I mean. We just was putting music out 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:20.959 and that's where it started from for me, and started 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:25.240 in eighty nine. And then I got myself wrapped up 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:29.000 in a little trouble on the street hustling, and then 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:33.480 when I came home, I think my next play was Tupac. 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.000 Uh the the what's. 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.360 The album he did against the World? 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:40.960 Yeah, he put on me against the World. 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.480 And so you had already had before you got incarcerated 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:44.960 and got in trouble, you had already had a great 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.240 relationship of pot because people don't I mean for people 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.040 who are Tupac fans, they know Oakland roots. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.120 No, I didn't know Pop when when I was four 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.800 one five, when I got in trouble, I didn't know Pop. 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.160 I met him after that. I met him when I 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.320 came home. I met Tupac over a sack of weed. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:00.320 Uh. 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.400 Chick called me and said she had a dude, the 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.720 one to buy some pot. I went over there to 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.280 serve him and it was in and then we kind 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.280 of got cool, but not on the music shit right, 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.320 just on some hanging out shit and one thing led 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.440 to another, and then I think Pac put me on. 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.480 Me Against the World, and then the Loonies put me on. 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:23.159 That remix, yes, which is and that kicked it right 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:24.000 back off for me. 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.320 Yeah where are you from? Ok? Yeah, and that kicked 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:27.920 it right back off. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:29.360 One of the greatest remixes ever. 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:29.920 Come on. 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.160 Yeah, that's dope too because if you think about from 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:33.839 your perspective, you're a part of this group, then you 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.520 go away, you come home. And like at that time 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:38.960 I got five on. It had to be running the Bay. 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:39.880 Yeah, I mean it was. 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.920 That was a national record, but I'm sure up there 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:43.200 it was. 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.640 It was killing shit. The Loonies was killing it. Yeah, 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:47.520 that was a big record. 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.320 And shout out to Yuckmouth too, who went on to 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.600 have an incredible like independent run and. 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.240 Yeah, yuck co lyricists, bro, I mean both of them, 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:00.000 yuck and but I mean Yuck He's always was different man, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.880 and JJ always been different with them bars. So yeah, 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.960 JJ and them put me on a they put me on. 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.440 That's what we knew him as JJ before he came 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.680 with you. But uh, they put me on that five 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.920 on it and that spawned the death Jam deal between 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.719 the five on It and to Me against the World, 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.919 and then the labels start popping out, and then I 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:21.800 ended up over there on Death on Death Jam. 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.880 That's dope, man, that's crazy when you found out. First 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.880 of all, were you able to hear anybody else's verses 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:29.440 on the remix? 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:30.320 I got five on it. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.080 I got to the studio Lake keV. I pulled up 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.599 late because I was always in the street hustling. I 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:41.320 remember when I got there, Uh, forty forty had a 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:46.360 garbage can bro a plastic garbage can full of hurricane, 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:48.640 So I was like, what's in the garbage can? 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:49.320 It was like drink. 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.560 So he came with all the mix, I guess, and 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:53.320 poured all this shit in his garbage can. 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.560 So I'm scooping my cus. 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:56.479 Like jungle juice. 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:57.960 Yeah, yeah, same shit. 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.200 Like he mixing all this shit, but this is in 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.880 a big ass garbage I get to the studio and 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:07.040 I think everybody's verses was down, and I remember Young 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:08.880 saying double how long is it? Don't take you to 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.240 write your verse. So I started writing, and we was 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.640 drinking and smoking and just talking shit. And to be 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.120 honest with you, I hate it the verse because really, 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.760 I'm gonna tell you, the two verses that people like 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.880 the most from me are the two verses that I 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.320 wasn't comfortable with, even the one on me against the world. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.720 The certain niggas want to stick to the game because 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:28.200 Park was. 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:33.440 Rushing me, Like, so I'm writing fast, and I figured 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.400 the bars was cool, but I just I wasn't swinging 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:37.960 them the way you know what I mean. Sometimes it 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.000 take you a little time to when you write something 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.520 to run run through it three or four times. 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.479 Man, they like, come on, let's get it down. 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:48.400 So both of them verses, to me, I was like, man, 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.599 I could do it. Like with Park, when you lay 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.839 something that you better lay what you want because it's stuck, 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:53.920 like he ain't letting you go. 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.320 Back, and and the same thing with the five on it. 0:06:56.360 --> 0:07:00.279 I laid it and do to me, I mean, shot 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:05.000 Gee's verse was cold, Yuck's verse was cold. I had 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.359 no clue that my verse would be the verse that 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:10.840 everybody went to with the song. 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:11.280 Yeah cut this. 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.640 To me, it's my favorite verse on the song also 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:15.440 because like you just brought like. 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:19.000 Your like real player shit, like right, and the thing 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:20.400 it was like I was, like, I said, I was 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.760 being rushed, so I didn't really I was listening because 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:25.240 I think they played it a couple of times and 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.120 I heard what Yuck had said and I was like, damn, 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.720 here we go. Like he was hard to come behind. 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.480 And so when I came with that where are You From? 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:37.880 Oakland smoke, and I was just trying to cover up 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.120 as many bars as I could because I didn't have 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.640 my shit together. And when the song came out, we 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:48.920 shot the video and like, I remember being in New 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:53.360 York and Justine's puff had a party and we was 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.480 in that restaurant and they played that record and when 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.280 he dropped the they dropped the music and said where 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.440 are you from? And I'm like, I was like, what 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:02.080 the fuck? 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:03.200 We in New York? 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:04.680 What year was the party? 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.720 The party had to be ninety five? 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.120 Oh shit, So this is this is before Diddy got 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:10.800 super weird. 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.320 This was when the parties were still We're still like 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:13.960 very player. 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.880 Yeah, it was a restaurant, so it was his son's restaurant. 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:18.560 So this was my first time being in one of 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:21.920 them events, and I remember Puff was a. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.160 Puff was always to me like. 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:30.960 The hardest working man in the game, like they had 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.560 all the records, dude, and and it just seemed like 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.840 for me, I always felt like once you hit a 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:38.960 certain spot, you'd be like, all right, I'm good, I 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.720 canna lay off. But I remember going to Justice with 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:43.600 my manager. He was like, hey, Puffing him having a 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:47.600 party up here. Big was was Big there. I don't 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:49.320 know if Big was there or not. I know Craig 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.120 macnum was in there. And we came from like when 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.840 we club, we go to the bar and we buy shots, 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.240 you know what I mean, or buy solo drinks. We 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:01.200 never bought no bottles, so I was never into that. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.520 And I remember they was. Puff was like, whatever you 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:05.320 want to drink, and at the time we was drinking 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.520 kvasi a so he like you on a bottle. 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:08.760 I was like, no, I'll go to the barn, just 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:09.720 grab a drink. 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.439 So we was in there and they dropped that record, bro, 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.280 And when I heard the response, I was like, they 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.320 like that off the motherfucker in New York. Yeah, And 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.280 then from there everywhere we went. I mean that record 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:22.360 smashing right now. 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:23.120 For sure. 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.720 It's still it's still in gold rotation all over the country. 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:29.520 Like you know, you turn any new mix on any 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:30.920 radio station, you go hear it. 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.080 You know that five on it is a crazy record? 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.360 Yo. That's crazy? Yo? What for you? 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:35.680 Man? 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.880 Like? Was it about? You think? Were you and Parc meeting? 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:39.440 Uh? 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:40.440 Doing that? 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.400 We deal that that you guys were able to kind 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.439 of catch a vibe and fuck with each other. 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:45.440 Yeah. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:49.000 It was trippy because he was making music, but he 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:50.560 wasn't making a kind of music we was making. 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:50.719 You know. 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.680 Four and five was like gangster hip hop, and Park 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.000 was more on the black power than he had to 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.280 Bringdus got a Baby, more conscious shit. Yeah, but we 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.839 locked up because we liked fucking with brogs, you know 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:03.679 what I mean. And we started going to clubs and 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.920 hanging out and shit like that. So we became homies 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.199 way before we even thought about doing any music. And 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:11.720 I remember he was like, man, I want to do 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:13.320 some music with you too, And I was like, well, man, 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.240 you're on the black power shit, we on the gangster shit, 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.520 and he's like, no, I got some shit like so 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:19.800 we just kind of start fucking around it wasn't even 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:23.280 music wise, you know what I mean, just hanging out 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:27.839 the clubs, partying like that, getting these together. And then 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.800 one thing led to another and the first record we 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.400 did was that one produced by Warren g Llt to 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.720 kick It. And then from there we was like we 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.200 was just locked in, you know what I mean. So 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.000 I was taking him around the town money Bee, uh 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.280 was money being him, had him and they were showing 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.280 him some ship. But then I started showing him some 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.920 other ship, you know what I mean? And uh, I 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:48.720 remember money. 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.240 Be just did he just did an interview. 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.520 I seen Money was like, well, we was running with Park, 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.640 but then once he got with Rich and Gov, it 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:56.720 was some whole other ship because you know we. 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.160 Was in the street. Yeah you know, and uh I 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:00.760 just had him under my wing. Dude. He was just 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:02.760 a young dude, smooth cool. 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.920 I didn't know he was gonna end up like the 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:07.679 nigga he ended up being, you know what I mean. 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.760 I couldn't see it on him, to be honest with you, but. 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.360 I mean you hear he was like obviously a complex guy, 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.880 like a kind of and and I think all greats 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:20.160 are like contradictory in. 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:20.520 In nature, right, you know what I mean. 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.240 You would hear PoCA love women. He loved the party. 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.920 You also heard he had hands. He was also very 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.400 much like a revolutionary, you know, fighting a good fight. 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.280 Like you know, I feel like that era of Tupac, 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.760 you know, I feel like it's not as talked about, 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:37.320 like him running around the Bay Area. 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.760 Yeah, it was layers. It was layers to him. He 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.800 was he was a he was a different kind of individual. 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.880 And I remember following him down to l A and 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.000 he was shooting all the movies and ship, you know, 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.600 shooting the Poetic Justice, and I'm like this thing over 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:54.600 here with Janet Jackson. 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.200 It's different, all shit, It's different. Like he just was. 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.960 He was just moving, moving, move And I had never 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:02.440 really seen it like that because we was just on 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.880 an independent level, you feel, so I had never seen 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:06.400 it like that. 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.800 And just what you guys ever get any squabbles together 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:11.880 like with like you know, maybe leaving a club. 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:12.960 You know what. 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.640 We had a little issue in San Francisco one night 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.360 at a club called The Stone, but we didn't actually 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:20.520 get into a squad. Some niggas was throwing some shit 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.480 on stage, some water bottles, and I remember Pop picked 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:25.319 up the mic stand and kind of jabbed it down 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.680 at the DO. But it wasn't no altercation. It was 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:31.880 a story that surfaced like something happened in that club, 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.120 but it never really jumped off like that. But no, 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.640 when I was with him, because like when I was 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.920 moving around in Oakland, we wasn't having no issues like that, 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.319 so everything was smooth. I just was kind of showing 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.880 him the ropes, you know, and not trying to show 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.440 him the dope game because that's what I was dealing with, 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.920 but just kind of showing him just the city, you 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.760 know what I mean. And he was giving me the 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.120 slang and the ship that he was speaking from where 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:58.560 he was coming from, and I was like, bro, it's 0:12:58.600 --> 0:12:59.320 different up here. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.160 We really just was smoking and fucking with bitches. 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:05.600 That was it tell me about. So rather b is like, 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:07.719 it's one of my favorite Chupac songs ever. I think 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.080 it's like one of the I mean, people love that song. 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.080 It's a classic. But your guys little interaction in the 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:16.800 beginning back and forth, like was that like a natural 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:18.720 one take or did you guys rehearse that? 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:20.960 No, it was one take, and it's crazy if you 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.800 listen to that record. They beat a word out like 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.400 I said, this is for the Honeyes, the super Saucy, 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.480 but they beat Saucy out. I don't know what they 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.360 thought that meant or something, but no. So I came 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.360 in the studio and Park was like rich. He said, uh, 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.800 he had just finished up writing a song. He went 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.360 in and laid the verses and he came out. He said, man, 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.640 we need to do something for the bitches. I said, 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:45.840 what you want to do? He said, I don't know, 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.080 just some shit like you know, some player shit, like 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:49.880 how we fuck with it? Like you know, I don't 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:51.400 want to I don't want to be your man. I 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.480 just want to be your nigga type shit. I was like, 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:55.680 all right. So then I think Johnny Ja or somebody 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:57.640 produced that beat. They pulled the beat up and we 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.600 was fucking around and he just start writing. So we 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.240 sitting right next to each other, he writing, and he 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.960 looking over what you got? Come on, man, come on? 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.120 So I'm like, spit your shit. So he wrote one 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.480 verse hella fast. He went in there in space. He's 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:11.640 fitting for me, right in front of me. 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.120 So I said, okay, well I can lead off of that. 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:15.880 You know, you could ride I was because he was 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.320 talking about winding and dining with the bitch, you know. 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:19.720 So then I said, well, you could ride out with 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.120 spoke code to get your libst and crab because all 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.320 I got it, I'm just finna dick you down, you 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:24.720 feel me? 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.120 So we went from there. He heard that, then he 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.040 spread off of what I said at the end. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.680 Of my verse, and that shit just came to Dude. 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.200 We did that song in probably ten minutes. 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:33.400 Bro. 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:34.320 That's crazy. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:35.320 We wrote that song in. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.600 Like ten minutes, bro, And it's crazy when we went 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:39.840 there and laid it and then he had EBB come 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.600 sing on the hook. Once the song was done and 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.880 we sat back, he was like, Nigga, this is that 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:48.040 shit right here. And I mean it turned out to 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:49.720 be a classic record that's still like a lot of 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:50.440 people's favorite. 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:50.720 Yeah. 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.880 No, for sure, women love that record, love it, especially 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.000 a certain like growing up as a kid in Phoenix 0:14:56.160 --> 0:15:00.520 surrounded by latinas certain specific type of love. The Mexican 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.640 woman pops into my head when I think of that song. 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:07.480 Right, I got the baddest one though, yo. 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:13.480 So you obviously man coming from the what are your 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.600 thoughts because you know the weed game I'm sure when 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:17.840 you were growing up right in the Bay, because it's 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:21.600 always been like northern California's got the best weed. Everybody 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.840 from all over the country at a certain point in time. 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:25.080 Not to say that they still don't, but for the 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.000 most part, like you would hear like a lot of 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:27.960 people's plugs would be. 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:28.680 Up north, right, right. 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.320 Is it kind of crazy to just see like the 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:38.760 just the pack culture becomes so like I wouldn't necessarily 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.800 say it's mainstream, but it's just it's just kind of 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.040 crazy like that, Like you know, like shipping a pound 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.360 of weed in the mail is like not that crazy anymore, 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:49.360 even if it gets caught up in the mail, like 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.040 you probably gonna hear about it if it's if it's 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:51.880 like one or two packs. 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:52.480 Fair. 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:56.080 Yeah, we came up, We came up moving white. So 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.680 when we was always secondary to whit, it just it 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:03.200 didn't make money like that people always smoked it. Back then, 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.080 it was only two kind of weeds. It was indo 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.240 and tie indo and tie stick, which is crazy. 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.000 So when the. 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.080 Weed game got to where people was pitching out of 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.800 state and getting tons of money for the shit, I 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.200 couldn't believe that you could make more money with weed 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.000 than you can do with the white. I was like, 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.080 it don't make sense, but I saw people doing it. 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.760