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Speaker 2: Welcome in What Driving the Great? Episode two eighty eight.
Speaker 2: Fresh off a little Christmas break, when I actually Demanse
Speaker 2: was here in New York, Demonse gave me one of
Speaker 2: the pardon me, greatest gifts I've ever received from anyone.
Speaker 2: I can't do it justice by describing it, because when
Speaker 2: I describe it, it'll sound ridiculous. But when I tell
Speaker 2: you it's a matching Monopoly sweatsuit and it is awesome,
Speaker 2: you're just gonna have to take my word for it.
Speaker 2: I'll wear it on the show at one point in time, Demons,
Speaker 2: you've really run the gamut on presence the last two
Speaker 2: occasions for me Christmas one hundred out of one hundred
Speaker 2: all time. My birthday, I'm pretty sure Demanse sent me
Speaker 2: a vape and that's what it was. And even he
Speaker 2: wrote a card. He was like, this might be a
Speaker 2: dumb present. I was like, I might use it. Who knows.
Speaker 2: All right, here's what missed the oh speaking of presents, well,
Speaker 2: here's what missed the cut. Baker Mayfield playing great. There's
Speaker 2: too many bad clock management things these coaches that it
Speaker 2: used the problem with coaches used to be they burn
Speaker 2: their timeouts too early. There is now a scourge of
Speaker 2: coaches who have timeouts and are afraid to use them.
Speaker 2: I never seen anything like it. Raem Morris might have
Speaker 2: cost em a chance of the playoffs and Sin and
Speaker 2: Roll pop Tart gets toasted. I and totally understand what
Speaker 2: that's songbo, But that's fine. Also, speaking of Christmas, we
Speaker 2: are one Tampa Bay victory over the New Orleans Saints
Speaker 2: away from having given the audience a great Christmas gift
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago when we gave you this division
Speaker 2: winner exact run the clip from four weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Please would you parlay LA and Tampa Bay to win
Speaker 3: their divisions at seven to twenty plus seven twenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, I do think that's what's gonna happen. Wow, Okay,
Speaker 2: well that was very sure to the point clip. But yes,
Speaker 2: that is exactly what happened. And I thought maybe I
Speaker 2: gave more sparkling analysis there. I didn't quite remember, but
Speaker 2: that was great either way. And so there it is.
Speaker 2: LA has won the division, Tampa looks like they're going
Speaker 2: to and so Los Angeles has a meaningless Week eighteen game,
Speaker 2: so they'll of course rest their people, as responsible teams do.
Speaker 2: That is not what the Lions did last night, and
Speaker 2: that's where we'll start the show.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, so, I mean they played all their guys,
Speaker 3: they got the win, but Brock Purdy got a little
Speaker 3: banged up there. So do you think with brock perty
Speaker 3: getting hurt and how the season has gone that it
Speaker 3: might have affected his ability to get paid next year?
Speaker 2: So yes, definitively. Let me start with the Lions. The
Speaker 2: Lions side of things is, I know there is now
Speaker 2: there is probably some oh decision vindicated by Dan Campbell
Speaker 2: and the Lions. I totally disagree with that. I thought
Speaker 2: it was reckless in the moment, and I actually don't
Speaker 2: think yesterday's game went in a way. I don't think
Speaker 2: that decision could have been vindicated. But I think the
Speaker 2: way yesterday's game played out, actually the opposite happened, because
Speaker 2: it's just sixty more minutes of football demonstrating that that
Speaker 2: defense can't get stops, sixty more minutes of football demonstrating
Speaker 2: that the Lions have one way and one way only
Speaker 2: to beat you. And listen, that offense is awesome. But
Speaker 2: we knew that offense was awesome before last night's game,
Speaker 2: and I did not understand Dan Campbell's insistence that, of
Speaker 2: course we're playing our guys when let's just say, for
Speaker 2: the sake of argument, the Vikings had lost to the
Speaker 2: Packers and then the Lions game last night would have
Speaker 2: been meaningful, and the Lions win that game. In that scenario,
Speaker 2: then the Lions would have last night locked up the
Speaker 2: one seed.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Would Dan Campbell have played all his guys in Week eighteen?
Speaker 2: Of course not. I think it was a weird mental
Speaker 2: block of the meaningless game not being the final game
Speaker 2: of the year, and therefore he felt an obligation to
Speaker 2: play his people. But it is not hyperbolic to say
Speaker 2: Lions Vikings Week eighteen Sunday Night Football Game two seventy two,
Speaker 2: where the winner gets the buy the one seed home
Speaker 2: field advantage and the loser is going to be playing
Speaker 2: on the road starting in round one for the entirety
Speaker 2: of the playoffs. It is not an exaggeration to say
Speaker 2: that is one of the biggest regular season games when
Speaker 2: it comes to who's going to win the championship or
Speaker 2: certainly who's going to be in the super Bowl. In
Speaker 2: NFL history, very very difficult to find many instances where
Speaker 2: it is as cut and dry as win the game,
Speaker 2: you are have the best possible path. Lose the game,
Speaker 2: you drop all the way to the five line. Now
Speaker 2: people can say, oh, it's not We've had a lot
Speaker 2: of games where winner gets in the playoffs, losers eliminated.
Speaker 2: Those games when it comes to crowning a champion, are
Speaker 2: not as meaningful as this Lions Vikings game, because typically
Speaker 2: if you are in a situation where if you lose
Speaker 2: in Week eighteen, you miss the playoffs, you're not championship
Speaker 2: caliber to begin with. Whoever wins this game is going
Speaker 2: to have the second best record in the entire NFL Hell,
Speaker 2: maybe tied for the best record because the Chiefs' backups
Speaker 2: might lose. Whoever loses this game is going to have
Speaker 2: the third best record, but one of the hardest paths.
Speaker 2: So the reason I'm focused on that is it's not
Speaker 2: only that you could have been as fresh as possible,
Speaker 2: it's that your game's Monday night, so you're on short
Speaker 2: rest now, and you opted into it for the Lions,
Speaker 2: and you just got more evidence that your team can't
Speaker 2: get stops. So I did not like that at all.
Speaker 2: Now on the brock Purty stuff, if I were to
Speaker 2: before the year have laid out a worst case scenario season,
Speaker 2: this would be really close to it, where the Avengers
Speaker 2: are banged up, the Niners win six games. At the
Speaker 2: end of the year, they play their worst football of
Speaker 2: the season. Like keep in mind, this Niner season, we
Speaker 2: are looking at it as right now a season from hell,
Speaker 2: But it didn't start that way. It started rocky, but
Speaker 2: they were five and four. They were four and four
Speaker 2: going into the by and then got maybe their best
Speaker 2: win of the whole season at Tampa Bay to get
Speaker 2: to five and four and were in that moment a
Speaker 2: game out of first place. Since then, they have lost
Speaker 2: six of seven and the last three they lost like
Speaker 2: this when it comes to brock Purty, worst case scenario,
Speaker 2: down three to the Rams, five minutes left infield goal range,
Speaker 2: interception and you lose. The next week, down five against
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, how much time is left? Two minutes left
Speaker 2: past midfield interception and you lose. Last night, after playing
Speaker 2: a close to perfect first half of football, down six,
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, you've already thrown one interception to get the
Speaker 2: Lions back in it. Interception and you get banged up
Speaker 2: and you lose. You now have a player who is undersized,
Speaker 2: a legitimate injury concern, who is just had and he
Speaker 2: probably won't play against the Cardinals, so that's probably the
Speaker 2: end of his season. Who just had a brutal year
Speaker 2: where they lost six of seven and three straight games.
Speaker 2: Ball in his hands, chanced to take the lead, chance
Speaker 2: to win the game, and through an interception and saw
Speaker 2: this from Josh Dubo or debau the associated press. Brock
Speaker 2: Purty win down one to eight points in the fourth
Speaker 2: quarter or overtime in regular season or the playoffs. Forty
Speaker 2: one for seventy two, five hundred yards, three touchdowns, seven
Speaker 2: picks of fifty three passer rating. Party ranks won one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty first out of one hundred and sixty
Speaker 2: quarterbacks with fifty plus attempts. In that scenario this century,
Speaker 2: you just can't pay that player, not right now. And
Speaker 2: I I am not saying the Niners are going to
Speaker 2: move off Brock Party in favor of Sam Darnold, but
Speaker 2: if the opportunity presents itself, they're going to have those discussions.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that brock Purty is going to all
Speaker 2: of a sudden show up to training camp next year
Speaker 2: and see there's another league minimum quarterback on the roster
Speaker 2: who just happens to be the apple of Kyle Shanahan's
Speaker 2: eye for the last ten years, Kirk Cousins. But it's
Speaker 2: on the board. And I'm not saying that the Niners
Speaker 2: are going to make the grievous error of bringing in
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, but they're gonna have meetings about it. And
Speaker 2: here's what they're not gonna do, if they have any
Speaker 2: sense to them whatsoever, pay Brock Party when they don't
Speaker 2: have to, and he's under contract next year for a
Speaker 2: million bucks. You then have the wildly unfair but incredibly
Speaker 2: useful franchise tag available to you. And that's the situation.
Speaker 2: And so I will ask you this de Monsey before
Speaker 2: we move on. Last year, I think it's fair to
Speaker 2: say that you thought I was a little unfair or
Speaker 2: harsh on brock Party, having seen this season. If you
Speaker 2: were the Niners and you had options of giving him
Speaker 2: the franchise quarterback, tracked, making him play out his deal,
Speaker 2: or bringing in another quarterback, I think I know which
Speaker 2: option you would take. But what which of those three
Speaker 2: doors would you walk through?
Speaker 3: I definitely would I wouldn't pay him, I mean and
Speaker 3: if I did pay him, yeah, I wouldn't pay him
Speaker 3: the franchise quarterback. You know standard them? Well, right, offer it,
Speaker 3: but is that just not a thing? Do they not
Speaker 3: accept that? Like twenty million bucks less?
Speaker 2: Well? I mean yeah? So like would he take the
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield deal three for one hundred million? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll offer him that, like maybe that they'll get
Speaker 2: they'll offer him that. I think his agent would say,
Speaker 2: you've got to be kidding me. Look at to his deal,
Speaker 2: look at Trevor's deal, look at Kyler's deal. And those
Speaker 2: guys had down years, but they just wasn't their last year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I mean Brocksman, he needs the guy, and so
Speaker 2: I just I think it's a very interesting offseason coming
Speaker 2: in San Francisco. And all last year I took the
Speaker 2: slings and arrows for Flatley, saying I'm sorry. I know
Speaker 2: it's not popular, and I know that his resume of
Speaker 2: stats and wins and accomplishments measures up favorably to basically
Speaker 2: any quarterback in NFL history through twenty five games, but
Speaker 2: I didn't believe it, and I think this year's proven
Speaker 2: it out. All right, Now, let's get to something that
Speaker 2: is controversial because people are idiots.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, so Twitter did, Like, so you came
Speaker 3: on to Twitter and you said the New England should
Speaker 3: go and shop Shador, you know, despite the fact that
Speaker 3: they already have Drake May. Yeah, and you said that
Speaker 3: they should also go on and get Dion Sanders. This
Speaker 3: tandem just lost to byu inaliableble. So defend yourself. What's
Speaker 3: the logic there?
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's a slight misrepresentation of what I said.
Speaker 2: Here's what I said. When you have which the Patriots
Speaker 2: do right now. Now, I don't know if they're gonna
Speaker 2: keep it because they might beat Buffalo's backups. But when
Speaker 2: you have pick one one, every single option must be
Speaker 2: on the table, every option. So one option is best
Speaker 2: player available, flatly, whether that's Travis Hunter, whether that's the
Speaker 2: tackle from Texas, whatever it is, what is the tackle
Speaker 2: from Texas's name? I'm gonna find it real quick. My apologies,
Speaker 2: I should have already had it. The I doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I guess whomever it is, the oh, Kevin Calvin Banks.
Speaker 2: But regardless, one option has to be just best player available.
Speaker 2: You have to look at that. Another thing you have
Speaker 2: to look at is every single trade offer you receive.
Speaker 2: If a team out there wants to give you a
Speaker 2: king's ransom because they love Chador or a cam Ward
Speaker 2: and you can move down get extra picks. What the
Speaker 2: Bears did that ended up netting them, Caleb Williams, what
Speaker 2: we have seen other teams do. That's got to be
Speaker 2: on the board. Everyone agrees that those first two things
Speaker 2: are on the board. The third thing when you have
Speaker 2: pick one one that must be on the board is
Speaker 2: you do an honest evaluation of what you think about
Speaker 2: the best quarterback in this draft versus your own quarterback.
Speaker 2: That has to be part of the equation. And what
Speaker 2: I said was, if they do an evaluation where they
Speaker 2: think should Or is better than Drake May, then the
Speaker 2: next thing you must do is see what the market
Speaker 2: for Drake May is and in a two quarterback draft,
Speaker 2: that market would be incredibly high. And so the somewhat
Speaker 2: farcical but not impossible scenario is if you like should
Speaker 2: Or more than Drake May, but the Titans like Drake
Speaker 2: May more than cam Ward and you say, hey, we
Speaker 2: took Drake May three overall, We'll trade him to you
Speaker 2: for two overall, And then you do have the opportunity
Speaker 2: to go Shadoor one Travis Hunter two. And if you
Speaker 2: did that, I bet Dion Sanders would be willing to
Speaker 2: coach your team if you wanted him to. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if Dion Sanders would be a good NFL
Speaker 2: head coach, but I do know that girod Mayo is not.
Speaker 2: So you could get the best player available in the draft,
Speaker 2: a quarterback that, again, if you evaluate him as better
Speaker 2: than Drake May is an upgraded quarterback and a transformative
Speaker 2: head coach. That's not controversial. Every team in the draft
Speaker 2: should be having the similar discussions. You know what I'll
Speaker 2: turn it on. It's had a bit. Now. I don't
Speaker 2: even think they can get the number one pick, and
Speaker 2: because of the contract, it might be implausible. But if
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars had the number one pick and they
Speaker 2: did the evaluation we like Shador more than we liked Trevor,
Speaker 2: then you shop Trevor and you draft the quarterback you
Speaker 2: The Patriots did not take Drake May first overall, and
Speaker 2: if they had the opportunity to draft first overall, they
Speaker 2: wouldn't have taken Drake May. Now maybe the answer is
Speaker 2: there were three quarterbacks in last year's draft that we
Speaker 2: evaluate better as better prospects than any quarterback in this
Speaker 2: year's draft, So be it. But you have to do
Speaker 2: that evaluation. And the real pushback is from Patriot fans
Speaker 2: who are adamant that Drake May's a superstar. And I'm listen.
Speaker 2: I like Drake May because I like young quarterbacks. I
Speaker 2: like athletic quarterbacks, and I don't think Drake May's had
Speaker 2: any talent around him. So going into last year's draft,
Speaker 2: I said I would have taken Drake over Jaden because
Speaker 2: of the frame, the size, the age and the size
Speaker 2: and all of that. I like Drake Moore. But Drake
Speaker 2: May has not covered himself in glory this year. Drake
Speaker 2: May hasn't had a single A plus game, And a
Speaker 2: lot of the Pat fans that are most adamant Drake
Speaker 2: May is the guy are the exact same people who
Speaker 2: swore Mac Jones was awesome and I people will listen
Speaker 2: to this and the thing, I'm just talking about Kevin Wilds.
Speaker 2: I'm not just talking about Kevin Wilds, who I adore.
Speaker 2: I listened to. I've listened all year long to Bill
Speaker 2: Simmons talk about how awesome Drake May is up to
Speaker 2: an including yesterday him saying cam Ward because cam Ward,
Speaker 2: who could be quarterback one Overshito or those are the
Speaker 2: top two quarterbacks. Cam Ward played the first half of
Speaker 2: the Pop Tarts ball and then sat out the second half,
Speaker 2: and Simmons just kind of said, flippantly, tell you this much,
Speaker 2: Drake May wouldn't have done that. And it's like, hey man,
Speaker 2: you're absolutely right. Drake May wouldn't have done that because
Speaker 2: he sat out the entirety of his bowl game last
Speaker 2: year to get ready for the draft, and the whole
Speaker 2: world people Pats fans tried to convince me throughout the year. Oh,
Speaker 2: you're not watching Drake May as closely as we are.
Speaker 2: And I was like, you know what, that's kind of
Speaker 2: that's somewhat fair. I think I watched the NFL as
Speaker 2: closely as anybody, but I am not watching every single
Speaker 2: snap of every single game live, and Pat's games are
Speaker 2: rarely on the handful of games I rewind watch during
Speaker 2: the week, So maybe I was under selling him, but
Speaker 2: the whole world got to watch him Saturday. How'd that look?
Speaker 2: And again, I think I think Drake May is going
Speaker 2: to be a really good player. I do, But the
Speaker 2: idea that he is sacred cow where you wouldn't do
Speaker 2: an evaluation of do we think Shador is better? And
Speaker 2: does the league the type of bounty we're talking about
Speaker 2: getting for the number one pick, could we get that
Speaker 2: same bounty for Drake May. It's just not responsible if
Speaker 2: you're not having those discussions. So honestly, I could give
Speaker 2: ah if all the NFL aggregator accounts, you know, retweet
Speaker 2: the take and then say make fun of me. This
Speaker 2: is one of those things where my confidence in my convictions,
Speaker 2: no what you say.
Speaker 3: You just know what you're talking about, you just know better.
Speaker 2: Well, exactly. I just here's the thing. If you actually
Speaker 2: listen to what I'm saying, there is not a single
Speaker 2: argument against it. What I am saying is it is
Speaker 2: their job to evaluate all of the players in the draft.
Speaker 2: Because they have the first pick of the draft at
Speaker 2: the quarterback position, there's only two guys they really got
Speaker 2: to evaluate. If after they evaluate those two guys, they
Speaker 2: determine they think one of them is better than the
Speaker 2: guy they have, it is their responsibility to evaluate the
Speaker 2: trade market for the guy they have. If as an
Speaker 2: added bonus, the guy they evaluate is better than the
Speaker 2: guy they have, you could then draft his best and
Speaker 2: teammate and have his dad be the head coach. That's
Speaker 2: something you'd think about. So of course it makes sense
Speaker 2: and it would be This is the last point I'm
Speaker 2: gonna make on this. Pat Fans acting like Drake Maje's
Speaker 2: had the year Jaden Daniels had is insane. Let me
Speaker 2: tell you this, Nobody likes Caleb Williams more than me.
Speaker 2: If the Bears had the number one overall pick, they
Speaker 2: should be doing exactly what I'm saying. The Patriots should
Speaker 2: do evaluate all of their options and determine what the
Speaker 2: best path forward is closing off a door of options
Speaker 2: because you finally have a quarterback that can run around,
Speaker 2: and you add Stockholm syndrome from mac Jones. So any
Speaker 2: quarterback that can throw the ball more than thirty five
Speaker 2: yards in the air, you think is the next John Elway,
Speaker 2: Which is another thing I've heard these Pats fans tell me, Oh,
Speaker 2: he's not Josh Allen, He's John Elway. Okay, maybe maybe
Speaker 2: he is, but it's just I'm just right, and so
Speaker 2: I don't like, do I think the Pats are gonna
Speaker 2: do this?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Do I even think they're going to do the full evaluation. No,
Speaker 2: But that's one of the reasons they're not a well
Speaker 2: run team since Brady left and Belichick left. Sorry all right,
Speaker 2: speaking of the opposite of the New England Patriots to
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Chiefs locked up that one seat over Christmas. We saw that,
Speaker 3: so can see. He's in an interesting situation right now.
Speaker 3: If they lose to Denver, Burrow and the Bengals to
Speaker 3: get bounced out of the playoffs. But if Kansas City
Speaker 3: beats Tenver Cincinnati, if Cincinnati wins the Miami loses, it'd
Speaker 3: be Cincinnati versus Buffalo in round one. So do you
Speaker 3: better for the Chiefs to let Cincinnati, you know, into
Speaker 3: the playoffs or keep him out?
Speaker 2: Okay, so the chief strategy on Sunday, I can guarantee
Speaker 2: you will have nothing to do with the playoff picture.
Speaker 2: It will flatly be getting. Here's my guest for the
Speaker 2: Chiefs on Sunday. I would be shocked if the following
Speaker 2: players play a single snap. Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelcey, Chris Jones,
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins. Those four guys are basically oh Isaiah pacheck
Speaker 2: Ols certainly yeah is out. Andy has banged up ribs,
Speaker 2: It's definitely out. I would be very surprised if Joe Tooney,
Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy, or Trent McDuffie play a snap either, and
Speaker 2: I think most likely Juwan Taylor, the other tackle, won't
Speaker 2: play either. That's nine guys that would be my guess.
Speaker 2: After that, they are going to try to win because
Speaker 2: they win, and while they don't care about getting to
Speaker 2: sixteen and one, I do a little bit. I really
Speaker 2: like the idea that the year the Chiefs three P.
Speaker 2: If they get to sixteen and one, a three P
Speaker 2: would also mean they are the first ever nineteen win
Speaker 2: team in NFL history to obviously never happen before. There's never,
Speaker 2: there's only the only prior to the seventeen game season,
Speaker 2: the only way you could do it was be to
Speaker 2: go undefeated. And the only undefeated team happened during a
Speaker 2: fourteen game season. So I like that idea. Now to
Speaker 2: this nonsense about being scared of the Bengals, all right,
Speaker 2: there's just the data, which is they haven't lost the
Speaker 2: Bengals in two years. They've played them three times since then,
Speaker 2: they're three and zero in those three games. But set
Speaker 2: that aside, and this is where the NFL media drives
Speaker 2: me bleeping crazy. A fair question to ask on Sports
Speaker 2: TV is should the Buffalo Bills be worried that Cincinnati
Speaker 2: will make the playoffs? You know why because the last
Speaker 2: time Cincinnati made the playoffs, they went to Buffalo and
Speaker 2: kicked their ass. The last three times Cincinnati has played Buffalo,
Speaker 2: Cincinnati either beat them. One of the games they were
Speaker 2: beating him, but it was the Tamorrow Hambling game, so
Speaker 2: the game was stopped. But they beat him in the
Speaker 2: playoffs two years ago. Last year, when Cincinnati wasn't very good,
Speaker 2: they beat the Bills in the regular season they didn't
Speaker 2: play this year, and of course that would be the
Speaker 2: matchup if Cincinnati makes the playoffs, they are one hundred
Speaker 2: percent playing Buffalo. But weirdly people have feel like the
Speaker 2: Bills are owed more respect than the Chiefs. So they're
Speaker 2: not asking that question, they're just asking should the Chiefs
Speaker 2: be worried about it? Also, by the way, Demonse, that
Speaker 2: is a odd matchup for Buffalo because Buffalo's back end,
Speaker 2: is it the weakness of its team? You have the
Speaker 2: best pair of receivers in the league. And for Josh
Speaker 2: Allen individually, he would go into that game probably as
Speaker 2: the guy that you know it was about to win
Speaker 2: league MVP. It's round one and here's Josh Allen's playoffs
Speaker 2: the last four years. AFC Championship game lost to Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 2: Divisional round lost to Patrick Mahomes, Divisional round home lost
Speaker 2: to Joe Burrow, Divisional round home loss to Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: That's twenty twenty one, twenty two, twenty three. If all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, he's staring at weight, I might lose
Speaker 2: to one of these other two guys for the fifth
Speaker 2: straight year, third straight year in my building and in
Speaker 2: you know, kind of de escalating rounds of the playoffs.
Speaker 2: That's a scary spot for Buffalo or not really. Again,
Speaker 2: I think Buffalo is way better than Cincinnati, but just
Speaker 2: from a pressure and nervousness standpoint. But to get back
Speaker 2: to your question, and this is the part of it
Speaker 2: that no one seems willing to acknowledge. The only scenario
Speaker 2: in which the Chiefs play the Bengals would mean the
Speaker 2: Bengals just beat Buffalo, and that is objectively an awesome outcome.
Speaker 3: For the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Yes, there is one team that has beaten the Chiefs
Speaker 2: this year. It's Buffalo. There's one team that's been the
Speaker 2: Chiefs in the last three hundred and seventy five days.
Speaker 2: It's three hundred and seventy days. It's Buffalo. They so
Speaker 2: I don't think the Chiefs are gonna game it to
Speaker 2: try to help Cincinnati to get in. And by the way,
Speaker 2: the only way to gain that is to beat Denver
Speaker 2: with your backups from your ten point dogs or nine
Speaker 2: and a half point dogs, whatever it is. But it
Speaker 2: is really idiotic media commentary to act like the Bengals
Speaker 2: making the playoffs is bad for the Chiefs because there's
Speaker 2: only two possible outcomes of the Bengals making the playoffs.
Speaker 2: One is they lose in Round one. The other is
Speaker 2: they knock out the second best team in football. I
Speaker 2: personally would happily sign up for either one of those.
Speaker 2: So it's just it's just stupid. What's your following, Prescinnati
Speaker 2: in there?
Speaker 3: The Chiefs are fifteen to one. If I had one
Speaker 3: of the best seasons of all time. Obviously, nobody's calling
Speaker 3: for Andy Reid to be Coach of the Year. Mahomes
Speaker 3: there for MVP. Why is that?
Speaker 2: Well, so that's an interesting thing, Demons where.
Speaker 3: You also aren't doing that?
Speaker 2: By the way, No, well, though, while we don't talk
Speaker 2: coach of the year, I do think Andy should be
Speaker 2: coach of the Year because somebody's here's the thing, the
Speaker 2: media has got to decide. Somebody on the Chiefs is awesome.
Speaker 2: I don't know who it is exactly, but somebody's doing great.
Speaker 2: So it's either Mahomes for the clutch stuff, Chris Jones
Speaker 2: for the number one Devens in football, or Andy Reid,
Speaker 2: who evidently doesn't have great players and they're fifteen and one.
Speaker 2: Somebody deserves some award. But here's my there's not an
Speaker 2: award for it is there even Assistant Coach of the Year.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if there. I think that award
Speaker 2: does exist. Actually so maybe that. So here's here's my prediction.
Speaker 2: Right before either Conference Championship week or Super Bowl Week,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, the NFL announces the finalists for all
Speaker 2: the awards, and just like last year, the Chiefs are
Speaker 2: going to be shut out. Nobody invited, not MVP, not
Speaker 2: Offensive Rookie of the Year, not Defensive Rookie of the Year,
Speaker 2: not Defensive Player of the Year, not Coach of the Year.
Speaker 2: There is also demands a decent chance that when the
Speaker 2: NFL announces the three AFC Pro Bowl quarterbacks, Mahomes gets
Speaker 2: left out. There's a real shot that three AFC Pro
Speaker 2: Bowl quarterbacks are Lamar, Josh, and Burrow. And I am
Speaker 2: here to tell you while all of that is wildly
Speaker 2: disrespectful and ludicrous, nothing helps the three peat chances.
Speaker 1: More.
Speaker 2: Of course, then the Chiefs all of a sudden, despite
Speaker 2: being fifteen and one, well I guess at that point
Speaker 2: they'd either be fifteen and two or sixteen to one,
Speaker 2: being able to invent a wait, we got disrespected card
Speaker 2: and so is specially Patrick. So I'm here telling you,
Speaker 2: like Andy Reid not being Yeah, I don't I don't
Speaker 2: want any of it. I don't want any of it.
Speaker 2: You guys can have your fun ceremony while the Chiefs
Speaker 2: are having their you know, their annual Super Bowl practice.
Speaker 2: I don't want any of the awards, all right.
Speaker 3: Next, So the NFC North, the one seed comes down
Speaker 3: to the Sunday night showdown between the Vikings and the Lions.
Speaker 3: Vikings have answered a lot of questions with Sam Darnold. Obviously,
Speaker 3: the Lions are stacked up with with all those injuries,
Speaker 3: but yeat, everybody still loves the Lions. What do the
Speaker 3: Vikings have to do to be favorites.
Speaker 2: That win that game? The Vikings win that game? Uh,
Speaker 2: you know what? I actually I take that back. Let
Speaker 2: me look at the odds. Right now, I think that
Speaker 2: the Vikings win that game, the Eagles become the NFC favorites.
Speaker 2: So I don't think there's anything they can do because
Speaker 2: right right now, no, never mind, they would become inc
Speaker 2: because it's close enough already. Right now, Detroit is plus
Speaker 2: two hundred for the NFC, Philly's plus three thirty, and
Speaker 2: the Vikings are plus three fifty, so if the Vikings
Speaker 2: beat the Lions in Week eighteen, they will become the
Speaker 2: NFC favorites. By the way, the Rams, oh, let me
Speaker 2: see what they're offering me on that. I haven't even
Speaker 2: thought about it. The Rams ten to one. Now, the
Speaker 2: Rams haven't looked great lately, but they're about to have
Speaker 2: a home playoff game, either the three or the four
Speaker 2: seed ten to one again to win the conference. What
Speaker 2: are they to win the super Bowl? Twenty five to one? Okay,
Speaker 2: hold on, and I obviously would never cash out a
Speaker 2: bet in my life, but I am curious if they've
Speaker 2: cried uncle yet. The so thirty Rams are thirty five
Speaker 2: to one on DraftKings, twenty five to one in some
Speaker 2: other spots. But I'm looking the so my bets click here? Okay,
Speaker 2: right now they're offering me double my bet back. But
Speaker 2: I will never cash out ever, so I wouldn't do
Speaker 2: it because I have the Rams to win the super
Speaker 2: Bowl at seventy five to one. Now again, I obviously
Speaker 2: think the Chiefs are gonna win the Super Bowl, but
Speaker 2: I ainng a Rams Chief Super Bowl is more likely
Speaker 2: than the Vegas odds makers think it is right now,
Speaker 2: and that was just a high you know, as Danny
Speaker 2: Parkins would say, probably gonna go down as a good
Speaker 2: value loser. But that's what what Minnesota has to do
Speaker 2: is win that game against Detroit, get the one seed,
Speaker 2: and then they'll be the favorites. All right, let's move
Speaker 2: on to Eagles in Saquon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Eagles still got it done without Hurts.
Speaker 3: Saquon is now over two thousand yards. They're locked into
Speaker 3: the two seed, by the way, but Saquon is over
Speaker 3: two thousand yards and one hundred and one shy away
Speaker 3: from breaking the record. But it's there's a meaningless game
Speaker 3: this week. I've do you think that they should let
Speaker 3: Saquon go for it?
Speaker 2: I don't, but it's not for the reasons I think
Speaker 2: most people are arguing. First of all, I I see
Speaker 2: that Saquon's minus two thirty to break the record. My
Speaker 2: so that means Vegas thinks he's gonna break it or
Speaker 2: does it. My guess is the places that are offering
Speaker 2: that bet that is a must play bet, meaning he's
Speaker 2: minus two thirty to break it if he plays, but
Speaker 2: if he doesn't play, they just refund the wager. So
Speaker 2: that's I'm not certain on that, but that's what I'm guessing.
Speaker 2: I don't think that it would be smart for any
Speaker 2: of these books to act like, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: it's a guarantee that he's playing. So let's say I'm
Speaker 2: right that that is how that wager is set up.
Speaker 2: Minus two already implies he is, you know, around a
Speaker 2: seventy percent chance of breaking the record. And that's why
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. There's really there's three reasons why I wouldn't
Speaker 2: let him try. The one is the obvious one, he
Speaker 2: could get hurt. Set that aside, let's say you just
Speaker 2: know he's not gonna get hurt. The other one is
Speaker 2: the less obvious one, which is this guy's at three
Speaker 2: hundred and forty five carries carries not touch his carries.
Speaker 2: Only Derrick Henry has had more carries in a season
Speaker 2: in the last decade than three forty five. Saquan has
Speaker 2: never had more than two hundred and ninety five. And
Speaker 2: now we're about to ask him go. They hope go
Speaker 2: play four playoff games, So just the freshness level of it,
Speaker 2: they're not gonna have a bye. You give him a buye.
Speaker 2: That's the second reason. Some people have brought that up.
Speaker 2: The third reason that no one has brought up, but
Speaker 2: I think is super relevant is this everyone is looking
Speaker 2: at this as a binary thing. Rest and don't get
Speaker 2: the record. Play don't be as rested, but go get
Speaker 2: the record. There is a third option, which is the
Speaker 2: only thing I think demands that could really hurt the
Speaker 2: morale of the team. Play go for the record and
Speaker 2: not get it. One hundred and one yards is still
Speaker 2: one hundred and one yards. I know you're playing the Giants,
Speaker 2: but the Giants game plan for that might literally be
Speaker 2: don't care get that record. Fifty to nothing, Yes, for real,
Speaker 2: we're gonna play no forget single high safety, zero high safety,
Speaker 2: one on one on the outside, nine guys in the box,
Speaker 2: anything but the record. And there have been five games
Speaker 2: this year Saquon didn't get one hundred yards. One hundred
Speaker 2: yards is still one hundred yards. If he were forty
Speaker 2: yards away, you could basically guarantee it a hunt. So
Speaker 2: that would be it is not a disaster for him
Speaker 2: to run, go play, break the record and just be
Speaker 2: you know, a little more less fresh for the playoffs.
Speaker 2: It's not a disaster to have him rest and just
Speaker 2: feel like, ah, I didn't quite get the record. There
Speaker 2: are only two disaster scenarios for Philly. One is he
Speaker 2: gets hurt. The other is he goes for it and
Speaker 2: they don't get it and that kind of invincibility gets pierced.
Speaker 2: So I would not have him do it. All right,
Speaker 2: go ahead?
Speaker 3: Yes, do you think the Jamar jay should be in
Speaker 3: the running. He's going for the triple crown? Should he
Speaker 3: get any love for that?
Speaker 2: For Offensive Player of the Year?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So.
Speaker 2: I think Offensive Player of the Year this year is
Speaker 2: gonna be really tough because I think Joe Burrow might
Speaker 2: get it. So typically the way it has worked is
Speaker 2: we've looked at Offensive Player of the Year as the
Speaker 2: best non quarterback, but that's not in the rules. So
Speaker 2: I think some people might say, I'm not voting Burrow
Speaker 2: MVP because the team wasn't good enough, but I will
Speaker 2: vote him Offensive Player of the Year. Look, but Jamar
Speaker 2: Jace triple crown is a great option. Saquon obviously, two
Speaker 2: thousand yards is a great option. All right, let's do Jaden.
Speaker 3: So last year c J. Stroud took that Texans team
Speaker 3: to the playoffs. They had no expectations and everybody was
Speaker 3: saying c J Strouds should get MVP. Jayden Dale was
Speaker 3: doing very similar things this year, and we do not
Speaker 3: hear those same types of talks. Why is that so?
Speaker 2: It's flatly because last year there wasn't a as many
Speaker 2: good or great candidates for MVP as there were this year.
Speaker 2: That's all Like, if Jaden was having this season last year,
Speaker 2: he'd be right in the mix. I think people look
Speaker 2: at Jayden's year this year as fondly as they look
Speaker 2: at CJS. But last year was a weird MVP year
Speaker 2: where Dak was a candidate then had a brutal game.
Speaker 2: At the end of the year, Purty was the favorite,
Speaker 2: then it threw the four picks against the Ravens, and
Speaker 2: then Lamar kind of won it by default, and so
Speaker 2: like it was like, hey, the team's really good. Because
Speaker 2: his numbers last year, de Monse were not spectacular in
Speaker 2: any direction, which is why a lot of the Ravens
Speaker 2: fans this year that are trying to nag Josh Allen's
Speaker 2: MVP case. The problem is Josh Allen's MVP case this
Speaker 2: year is Lamar's MVP case last year, and Lamar didn't
Speaker 2: have the statistical profile for the MVP last year, but
Speaker 2: his team had the best record and he was awesome
Speaker 2: for the Josh Allen doesn't have the statistics go profile
Speaker 2: for the MVP this year, but it seem as the
Speaker 2: second best record in the conference. They beat the Chiefs
Speaker 2: and Lions are twenty nine and three in the season,
Speaker 2: but they're twenty nine and one against the whole NFL
Speaker 2: and zero to two against the Bills, So that helps
Speaker 2: Josh and so, and they're kind of overachieving or whatever.
Speaker 2: So the there are. But Josh is a great candidate.
Speaker 2: Lamar is a great candidate. Sam Darnold is a great
Speaker 2: candidate that no one will accept. Golf's a good candidate,
Speaker 2: and Joe Burrow's a decent candidate. Those are all. They're
Speaker 2: all having better seasons than anybody last year. So that's
Speaker 2: why Jaden's not in the mix in my opinion. All Right,
Speaker 2: that was a nice forty five minute a block, take
Speaker 2: a quick break. Come back, We'll do our New Year's
Speaker 2: resolutions before we get out of here. What's right? Welcome
Speaker 2: back in What's right?
Speaker 3: With Nick?
Speaker 2: Great? It is New Year's Eve. We will be on Thursday. Uh,
Speaker 2: we took last week off. We're not gonna take this
Speaker 2: week off, but since New Year's Eve, we'll do some
Speaker 2: I guess rights resolutions. So this is one of these things.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a great photoshop. I love that. Uh. I
Speaker 2: don't quite remember us doing last year, but I'm sure
Speaker 2: we did them. So Demont's take us through this year's Yes.
Speaker 3: So the NBA has had declining ratings this year and
Speaker 3: people were killing the current state of the game. There's
Speaker 3: nothing like a lofty New Year's resolution to turn it
Speaker 3: all around fix all those problems. The NBA's twenty twenty
Speaker 3: five resolution should.
Speaker 2: Be for honestly, got it.
Speaker 3: Oh, let him fight, let him fight. Go on, docky.
Speaker 3: They do it in baseball. Tired of the tough guy.
Speaker 3: You guys just run up to each other. It's like, oh,
Speaker 3: we're gonna fight. We're gonna fight. The refs go and
Speaker 3: break it up. Swing a guy to the ground, actually
Speaker 3: hit somebody. You know, don't kill anybody. You don't fight
Speaker 3: any of the fans. But yeah, I mean my guys
Speaker 3: pointed each other in the face every.
Speaker 2: Once in a while. Wow, I didn't I didn't see
Speaker 2: that take coming. That would be uh, at least short
Speaker 2: term fix. I will tell you this, Madam Silver is like,
Speaker 2: you know what fighting's allowed now, people would tune in more. Uh.
Speaker 2: I don't hate it. I don't hate the idea. I'm
Speaker 2: curious how many uh international players Draymond would fight before
Speaker 2: he fought an actual American player. It's a long list.
Speaker 2: But uh so that's an interesting uh my. My response
Speaker 2: to that is a little more I guess serious, But
Speaker 2: demonsic is probably better. Need the next crop of superstars
Speaker 2: to take it as seriously as the previous crow it.
Speaker 2: That'll help, like to take it really seriously regular season
Speaker 2: round and I think that would help a lot. We've
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time talking about the three pointer
Speaker 2: and load management and I don't want to do that
Speaker 2: right now. But I also just think a level of
Speaker 2: maturity from this next this group of guys that you
Speaker 2: know you have. You still have a Lebron, you still
Speaker 2: have Steph, you still have Durant that have given you
Speaker 2: the blueprint for how to be a pro in this
Speaker 2: league and last for a decade and a half to
Speaker 2: two decades, and you can follow it or you can't.
Speaker 3: Next a few weeks back, you attack the NFL playoff
Speaker 3: format for ruining late season intrigue. Assuming there's no chance
Speaker 3: the NFL gives up the extra game, what's the next
Speaker 3: the next big thing the NFL's twenty twenty five resolution
Speaker 3: should be.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think they've listen. I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: like the seven teams in the playoffs. I think it's
Speaker 2: unnecessary and I think it would be way more exciting
Speaker 2: if I'd rather have a good team left out than
Speaker 2: a bad team in. And I know that. I just
Speaker 2: think it makes the regular season feel more meaningful. I
Speaker 2: think it'd be really interesting if as good as Green
Speaker 2: Bay and Washington have been this year, if neither one
Speaker 2: of them knew, like if both of them are like, man,
Speaker 2: we might miss the playoffs. I think it'd be interesting
Speaker 2: if I guess in the AFC now it would it's set.
Speaker 2: But I think that would have meant that Denver blew
Speaker 2: their playoffs spot this past week, like that stuff. So
Speaker 2: I'm saying it's set if they were only six teams.
Speaker 2: But the NFL probably doesn't need to change much. Man,
Speaker 2: they're kind of rolling. I mean, it's it's working for them. Next.
Speaker 3: The Dallas Boys underwhelm this year, yet it seems like
Speaker 3: there's a real chance that they run it back with
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy if they ever want to get back to
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. The Cowboys twenty twenty five resolution should be.
Speaker 2: Well. In the long term, it's to not have Jerry
Speaker 2: running everything, but that's not gonna happen. Short terms, it's
Speaker 2: bite the bullet fire McCarthy, hire Mike Vrabel and try
Speaker 2: to install a culture. I mean, that's his obvious because
Speaker 2: you're not gonna be able to change the quarterback. You're
Speaker 2: not changing the GM. You know, Mike is gonna be
Speaker 2: their CD is gonna be there. Those are excellent players.
Speaker 2: You need a guy, an established head coach, and I
Speaker 2: just don't I think people have maybe forgotten what Mike
Speaker 2: Vrabel did with a team with a way worse quarterback
Speaker 2: than Dak Prescott. His first year in Tennessee, they won
Speaker 2: nine games. His second year in Tennessee, they won nine
Speaker 2: games and made the af Championship Game. His third year
Speaker 2: in Tennessee, they won eleven games. His fourth year in Tennessee,
Speaker 2: they won twelve games and were the number one seed
Speaker 2: in the conference. Then they traded aj Brown won seven
Speaker 2: games the next year, six games last year, and they
Speaker 2: fired him. That guy's an excellent coach, and that's what
Speaker 2: I would do next.
Speaker 3: The Jets also underwhelm, but that was expected. The teams
Speaker 3: of dumpster Fire and Rodgers has washed to finally turn
Speaker 3: things around. The Jets twenty twenty five resolution should.
Speaker 2: Be, I mean, obviously, get out of the Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: business is far away from Aaron Rodgers possible go ahead.
Speaker 3: How likely do you think it is that they run
Speaker 3: it back with him as of now?
Speaker 2: Very unlikely. Coach Manginie has been pretty plugged in on
Speaker 2: this stuff, and he said when Rogers started poking fun
Speaker 2: at the owner's teenage son Brick, that that was Rogers
Speaker 2: basically because the heat Rogers went on there was a
Speaker 2: report that the Woody Johnson's kids are like deeply involved,
Speaker 2: and Rogers then went on McAfee and said, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I've never been cut by a teenager before, so that
Speaker 2: would be a first, like poking fun at that, and
Speaker 2: Mangini said that to him trying to shoot his way
Speaker 2: out of town. But Wild's had a rare great tweet
Speaker 2: during the Jets game this weekend on that third and
Speaker 2: one play when Rogers could have run for a first,
Speaker 2: could have then had a wide open throw to the
Speaker 2: tight end and it didn't run, made the pass, threw
Speaker 2: it five yards short and then yelled at the tight
Speaker 2: end and he was like, this is perfect Darreon Rodgers
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Not mobile enough to run for it,
Speaker 2: not accurate enough to throw for it, not humble enough
Speaker 2: to admit that was my mistake, not yours. So I
Speaker 2: would just get out of the Aaron Rodgers business and
Speaker 2: let me say something here that we won't clip and post.
Speaker 2: But if somebody, if we've one of the aggregators or
Speaker 2: blogs or whatever has happens to be watching live and
Speaker 2: clips it all on it, but we won't publicize it. Uh.
Speaker 2: There is a rich irony to Pat McAfee correctly calling
Speaker 2: out the Indianapolis Colts for toxic culture and no leadership
Speaker 2: within the franchise while guffawing and hosting Aaron Rodgers every Tuesday.
Speaker 2: He was like, this is what's wrong with the Colts.
Speaker 2: This what let me tell you, the Colts will never
Speaker 2: win like this, this is what's wrong. Just goes scorched
Speaker 2: earth on them, and then every Tuesday has Aaron on
Speaker 2: as Aaron has lit the Jets franchise on fire from
Speaker 2: the inside out and has no problem with it. Like that.
Speaker 2: Irony is not lost on me.
Speaker 3: Pat McAfee's the friend that keeps the friend around just
Speaker 3: because he's embarrassed, embarrasses himself and makes himself look better.
Speaker 2: So I don't think that's I mean, I so I don't.
Speaker 3: Every time Aaron Rodgers goes up there, it's bad.
Speaker 2: It's like, and you think he looks better in comparison.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it's just for everybody's amusement.
Speaker 3: But that's me.
Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean, listen, maybe he's playing forty chess that
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing. I think there's a much simpler explanation.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the next one.
Speaker 3: This year, we both took a big step forward on
Speaker 3: the Gambling Show with your picks and my teasers. Uh,
Speaker 3: but there's always room for growth. Obviously. Our twenty twenty
Speaker 3: five gambling resolution should be.
Speaker 2: I mean, keep it going the I'm trying to see
Speaker 2: what was this my seventh straight no? Because I went
Speaker 2: three and two again this week. So this is my
Speaker 2: sixth straight winning week and my eighth of my last
Speaker 2: nine weeks have been winning weeks on the year, now
Speaker 2: forty seven thirty seven and one and over the last
Speaker 2: six weeks. Let me do this math real quick, over
Speaker 2: the last six weeks, four, eight, twelve, and then twenty
Speaker 2: one and fourteen. No, that's wrong. Give myself more credit.
Speaker 2: Twenty one and nine over the last six weeks, which
Speaker 2: is awesome. And so yeah, I mean, I think, in
Speaker 2: all seriousness, I think that early in the year I
Speaker 2: probably should just favor dogs way more, because what hurts
Speaker 2: me is I don't really have a feel early in
Speaker 2: the year kind of be hard and I get a
Speaker 2: little too. I don't want to say fancy, but I
Speaker 2: may be ambitious with the picks. And you know that
Speaker 2: early in season on underdogs historically are the right play.
Speaker 2: So that's probably the first few weeks while I get
Speaker 2: my footing, you know, things that are just historical plays,
Speaker 2: like you know, divisional underdogs, things like that. And then
Speaker 2: once I, as Danny would say, see the NFL really
Speaker 2: clearly as I have been lately, that is that's where
Speaker 2: that's where I think I can make my money. All right,
Speaker 2: last one, demanse.
Speaker 3: Every year sports media does stuff that makes you angry.
Speaker 3: Let's fix that. Let's fix that. Sports Media's twenty twenty
Speaker 3: five resolutions should be.
Speaker 2: Well listen, you know what, I just did something that
Speaker 2: I said I don't do, which is I don't really
Speaker 2: get in the you know, inner media beef stuff, even
Speaker 2: though it was very clear that that's like a successful
Speaker 2: lane for podcasts and YouTube shows people like that. I
Speaker 2: gotta tell you that little mcfeeeron Rodgers segment, I gave
Speaker 2: me a little little jolt. I kind of enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: So maybe my resolution is gonna be I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go uh do the opposite of the Michelle Obama
Speaker 2: when they go low, I'll go low too, Like, maybe
Speaker 2: that's what I'll do. I don't know, it could be fun.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of dopes in the field, a lot
Speaker 2: and uh and I am not as worried about my
Speaker 2: kind of universal popularity as maybe others are. So maybe
Speaker 2: that's what I'll do. No promises, but there's a few
Speaker 2: that are ripe for the picking here and uh and
Speaker 2: so we'll you know, we'll see uh the so we've
Speaker 2: got you. Oh, by the way, Well, maybe I mean
Speaker 2: there might makes yeah, yeah, I mean there might be.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's a few people in particular that
Speaker 2: it feels like, you know, their comeuppance is due, so
Speaker 2: that could be maybe that's maybe that'll be a new
Speaker 2: feature of the pod in the new year. We'll see
Speaker 2: quick break right back, what's right?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Welcome back in demand. Let's run through some listener questions
Speaker 2: quick before I got to get out.
Speaker 3: Of here, WX says. Each year we see how valuable
Speaker 3: quarterback rushing is, and it seems the mobile quarterbacks, for example, Stafford,
Speaker 3: are too limited as has the mobile QB become the
Speaker 3: NFL's version of a sinner that can't shoot in today's NBA.
Speaker 2: No, there is a limitation associated with it. But Burrow's
Speaker 2: not mobile, Donald's not mobile, Golf's not mobile, Stafford's not mobile.
Speaker 2: Three of those guys having the best years of their career,
Speaker 2: and Stafford's always dangerous. So it is. It is because
Speaker 2: the traditional pocket passer is becoming, you know, less the standard,
Speaker 2: but Golf, Donald and Burrow are having some of the
Speaker 2: best years any players in the league. So no, I
Speaker 2: don't I don't think that, but I do think I,
Speaker 2: you know, shocker to no one. The best version of
Speaker 2: it is Mahomes Stylistically, forget the talent, a guy that
Speaker 2: has the ability to run, but truly only does it
Speaker 2: in emergency scenarios. That's the best version.
Speaker 3: Next, Tyler question for Nick, do you like Donald to
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers and letting Perty go?
Speaker 2: I depends on the price. And I you know Donald
Speaker 2: was there last year and they loved him, and so
Speaker 2: I I also want to get the results of this
Speaker 2: late Perty elbow injury. And if it's nothing, it's nothing.
Speaker 2: If it's significant, that that's a very big problem for them.
Speaker 3: Next, Curtis ranked the rookie quarterbacks from best season to worse.
Speaker 3: Now that the season is wrapping.
Speaker 2: Up, well, Jaden's clearly number one. As far as the
Speaker 2: individual seasons they've had. It would go Jaden one, Bow
Speaker 2: Knicks two, Caleb three, Drake May four. That's what it
Speaker 2: would be as far as my stock in guys moving forward.
Speaker 2: Of those four, I'm not gonna include Pennis because he
Speaker 2: hasn't played enough and McCarthy hasn't played at all for me,
Speaker 2: and I know this is not what America believes. That's fine.
Speaker 2: I would go Caleb one. I would go exact order
Speaker 2: they were drafted. Actually, Caleb, Jaden, Drake bo Bow's been
Speaker 2: way better than Drake this year, but I think Drake
Speaker 2: has more upside and Jaden, I worry about the injury stuff,
Speaker 2: but he's been so electric. My god, he's been electric.
Speaker 3: Next, Bradley Nick, I think your ravens Lamar take is
Speaker 3: mostly correct. The one thing I would change is is
Speaker 3: it's not big games, it's emotional games. Oughts. I think
Speaker 3: it's like how Andy's time ended in Philly.
Speaker 2: So that's interesting. Maybe it is emotional games and he
Speaker 2: gets in his own head. Maybe it's so Maybe it's
Speaker 2: a that. I gotta think more on that, but that
Speaker 2: seems like a plausible idea. All right, last one, uh Toamas.
Speaker 3: If Lebron retires after this year, do you think the
Speaker 3: NBA loses even more eyes or do you think it
Speaker 3: a right or sorry? Or do you think it revitalizes
Speaker 3: the league?
Speaker 2: Oh? I think it'd be really bad for the league.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're ready for Lebron to retire, but
Speaker 2: he's not going to listen. I'm not claiming to be
Speaker 2: Lebron's closest confidant, but what I will tell you is this,
Speaker 2: Lebron James ain't leaving the NBA without a farewell tour.
Speaker 2: I feel very confident in that Lebron's not gonna be like,
Speaker 2: all right, guys, that's it. I think he's gonna give
Speaker 2: us fair warning on it. I also think that he
Speaker 2: wants to play twenty three years as a like, to
Speaker 2: really wrestle that twenty three number away from Michael Jordan entirely.
Speaker 2: He wore it played twenty three years like it feels
Speaker 2: fitting now. Yesterday he was like, I could play five
Speaker 2: to seven more at this level. And I think he's
Speaker 2: probably telling the truth amazingly, but he's he's gonna get bored.
Speaker 2: I'd love him to play a nice round twenty five years,
Speaker 2: but that's not gonna happen. And so that we'll talk
Speaker 2: more Lebron and and be listen, there's been some I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's complaints, but you know, noticing that
Speaker 2: we have not done nearly as much NBA this year
Speaker 2: as we have a year past. We obviously will once
Speaker 2: football is over, and we probably will in this coming
Speaker 2: month when there's less football news. But I've just been
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