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You know him from such 26 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: hits as my all time favorite Charlene, Pray for Me, 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,639 Speaker 1: just the Big Bones, and can't let Go Please. Welcome 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations, my man, Anthony Hamilton's Hello, how 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: are you anthy long time my friend, long time, Yes, man, 30 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: I think we've we've all been, uh on our journey 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: and it's beautiful man, to see all this happening for 32 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: you and uh, you know, I'm excited to be on 33 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: the show. Thank you for coming on the show. And 34 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: this shows about entrepreneurship right that. I think that's why 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: it's really gaining such popularity now, Anthony, because this just 36 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: allows artists, especially sometimes people just want you to be 37 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: the artists. They don't want to hear the story about 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: your entrepreneurship background and the other layers of your life 39 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: and charities and things like that, and the various artists 40 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: and and CEOs and interested decision makers know they can't 41 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: come on money making conversations and then get their story told, 42 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: and they can tell it in a relax format and 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: not walking away from your success. But also you have 44 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: other layers of success correct exactly, Yeah, branching out. You know, 45 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: sometimes people don't expect it when they when they just 46 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: know you for one one thing. Um. But being a 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: business person, I think you always have these creative ideas 48 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: that you want to embark on. It. It's just exciting 49 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: to be able to do something else but that. But 50 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: that's that's that's the cool thing about life today because 51 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: of the fact that you know, especially with social media, 52 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: because I want to talk about social media and your brand, 53 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: because you know, you come into you know, you just 54 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: you have one dream that's just be a music artist 55 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: and get your songs played on the radio, get that 56 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: to become gold, get that to become gladden, to sell 57 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: out arenas. But now you have this other social media, 58 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: this this brand relationship that you have with your fans 59 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: is not like a fan club. It's like it's immediate. 60 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: How does how has that impacted your career, Well, you 61 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: get to to really you know here and and read 62 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: what people really think, see it, feel it. Um. People 63 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: are post videos that I'm sending their songs or teptimonies 64 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: about how the music has changed their lives. And you know, 65 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: you get to see them at the shows that we 66 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: post the videos of them enjoying your live performances. It's 67 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: excited now when you do that. With that being said, 68 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: what just the difference today for a musical artist? Because 69 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: I get that all the time because they know what 70 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: I've done in the business. So I'm constantly being approached 71 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: by people to manage their careers or give them advice. 72 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: And there's so many different layers, so I can I 73 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: just know when I started writing on and sitcoms and 74 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: three and what you're doing when I'm doing today, it's 75 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: totally different. So I can assume that if you were 76 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: breaking into the musical business today, what is different? What 77 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: are the major obstacles? Are the major opportunities that the 78 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: young musical artists listening to this show that you will 79 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: give them advice on. Not only can you be successful 80 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: that being you know a musician songs right or a producer, 81 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: but also you can also get into advertisement m hm. 82 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: When you have a lot of people following you, people 83 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: brands come to you and and they want to they 84 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: want to be a part of that, want to be 85 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: a part of the movement. They want to be a 86 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: part of your fans so that they can sell this products. 87 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: So you become now a different entity. Um. You know, 88 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: it's almost like how Oprah Show was like major right, 89 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,559 Speaker 1: you know, to get part of that space and and 90 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: and that energy and that you know, and that that 91 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: exchange there probably be a part of that. You've become 92 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: a different kind of entity now and you can sell 93 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: things outside of the music. You can you know, you 94 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: can really pretty much set up a store, um, being 95 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: an entertainer now and you get a chance to to 96 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: share your music with people who would never ever uh 97 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: I think twice about you know, then during it off 98 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: outside of their own comfort and go into the world. 99 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: You can you can add Ran to the to their 100 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: world and vice versa. It's really interesting when you say that, 101 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: because uh, you know my world. You know, entertainment, you know, 102 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: bigger part of the entertainment was managing Steve Harvey doing 103 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: TV shows, during the radio, all these different platforms and 104 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: and create a relationship. How many favors you've done for me, 105 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: for the Hoodie Awards or the Neighborhood Awards, coming there 106 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: and changing people's lives and they were entrepreneurs. That's why 107 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: I always love that format because about people within the 108 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: real starts of the community. And then then I transitioned 109 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: to now I'm one that I'm an award winning baker. 110 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: So this is what you're saying, that reaching people that 111 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: you will never see follow you. It's that you know, 112 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm reaching people in Montana, Idaho, Lord, Alabama, Nevada because 113 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm a baker. And when I started seeing you start 114 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: putting these pictures out of these photos, these videos out 115 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: about you cooking, you know, you know you. I've reached 116 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: out to your manager, Eli. I said, Eli, I gotta 117 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: get in touch with Anthony. You want to all this 118 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: cooking going on it, tell us about that, tell us 119 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: about that. You know, I'm a Southern guy man from Charlotte, 120 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: North Carolina, and cooking has always been a very important 121 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: part of our culture, and you know, people and a 122 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: way to express yourself when you didn't have much, you 123 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: had a good meal or you had a meal because 124 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: you're you're from a single mam, you're ready by a 125 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: single mom correct, yeah, yeah yeah, and then later on adopted. 126 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: So you know I have I've had it both of 127 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: those expenses. But cooking is a way that I expressed 128 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: myself and extend who I am. Um. I like this. 129 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: I like different flavors and and and and and taste, smells, 130 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: experience and combinations of of of plates that I can 131 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: express myself like I might do curry corn with the 132 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: with the big keyback. He's showing that. Now I'll infuse 133 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: my master tatoes with with with the sweet corn puree. 134 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: Just you know, just different ways to to be creative. 135 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: So food has always been very very uh okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, 136 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: pad Labella got her cookie show, yes, sir, okay. Now 137 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: are we headed in the direction? Because look at it. 138 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: You know, you got the social media filing, you got 139 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: the brand, you got the name, and see you we 140 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: wasn't throwing out them a little simple you know, he 141 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: was these words and huge. You know that that's a cook. 142 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: I would never use that word. I'm just there to eat. 143 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: I just baked you using those really really you know 144 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: those those those those those those cool andary terms you 145 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: know in your whole scenario so so so so tell 146 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: us about what's what you're really doing here, Anthony, are 147 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna be on TV cooking? You know what the 148 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: opportunity is there? I will, I will definitely look into it. 149 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: I definitely want to put out a cookbook, a different 150 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: style of cookbook, just drawing on with African American expressions 151 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: out of San Francisco. And you know, I think that 152 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: will be the platform. They have a large a large 153 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: retail right right there, and uh, my fans, it fits. 154 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: It's my brand. So I start off with a cookbook, 155 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: get the people interested. Um, you know, then you start 156 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: off with this cookbook? Did get everybody in? Because because 157 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: you know we're already interested. I'm just gonna let you 158 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: know that right now because you know my wife she 159 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: loves fish, so you you just don't right into her 160 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: her men, you see, bads, you know what I'm saying. 161 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: So so so, with that being said, what what what 162 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: what would a cookbook look like coming from Anthony Hamilton? 163 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: Would they have desserts in it? Would they have breads? 164 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: Would it just be entree types or derbs or what? 165 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: Would it be appetizers? It would not I would be 166 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: four four meals. Um, that would be some some paring. 167 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: Would it be a good dessert with a good meal, 168 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: or a good wine with a good meal, good kanyak 169 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: with a good meal and good music? That was definitely yeah. 170 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: I love it this man, I've loved this Anthony half 171 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: to her brother, I'll tell yourself. I'm gonna call Eli now. 172 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying, hey, man, let's get if you have time. 173 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: If you have time, because y'all know you're at the Tory, 174 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: You're never gonna walk away from your first love, which 175 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: is music. But the way you're talking, man, you are 176 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: for real cook man, chef. They's gonna put that title 177 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: on top of that. We're gonna be right right back 178 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: more talking about a lot more of the the entrepreneur 179 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: endeavors of Anthony Hamilton's. He's awesome though, We'll be right back. 180 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: Don't go nowhere, Anthony Hamilton's on the phone, Chef Hamilton's 181 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: I should say, I just ro Sean McDonald, I'm back 182 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: money making conversation on the phone Anthony Hamilton's or should 183 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: I say Chef Hamilton's Anthony. With that being said, where 184 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: can we uh? Is their website out now? That that's 185 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: start to uh take advantage of your entrepreneurship. But it's 186 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: all tied to your your your main website. Well, yeah, 187 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: you can go through my main and I'm on chef 188 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: dot com, h e f d dot com. Um when 189 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: you can see the food and all that American African 190 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: American expressions. They have their their website as well, and 191 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: uh okay, so let me just slow down here, Okay, 192 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: this this chef thing, So let me just tell you 193 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: about Rushan McDonald because I'm really in the food with 194 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: my face, with my social media almost a million social 195 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: media follows. Like on Tuesday, I do a baker spotlight, 196 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: and then on Wednesday I do I post a tasty 197 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: video or some recipe. Then on then on Friday, I 198 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: do another baker spotlight. Okay, then on Saturday, it's very talented, 199 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: the guy called the Chef of Ludgeon know, I post 200 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: his cooking video and it does very well. And then 201 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: on Sunday I do a delice video. And so when 202 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you got videos out there, Anthony, and 203 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: you're trying to get the brand out there, I put 204 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: you on my schedule and give you a day to 205 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: not and and and push and I'm not I'm just 206 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: saying that's what I do now. I do. I do 207 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: money making conversations on my social media site, and I 208 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: do my food. And it's and and you know, of course, 209 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: because when you do food, that means that seven of 210 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: my followers are female and uh, I'm just letting you know. 211 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: And they love it. They love it and so so 212 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: like I said, I'm a baker. And so that's why 213 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: I brought Chef Gernard onto my site on on Saturdays 214 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: because he cooks. And so I'm not gonna go into 215 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: that lane. So if you're having video, if you if 216 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: you're driving people to that, let me get with elt 217 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: to say, hey, man, just start sending me some weekly 218 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: videos that you're doing and I started posting them on 219 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: my social media and driving your traffic. If you're comfortable 220 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: with that, hey, let's get that's that's it's a great 221 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: conversation to start and it will be a great platform. Yeah, 222 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: because I'm doing it, and so it's not nothing unnatural 223 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: to me. You feel me and and and I really 224 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: and I'm really excited about what you're saying and what 225 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: you're trying to do because it's real and it's gonna 226 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: be very, very growth oriented. So I want to transition 227 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: a little bit to you said it earlier. African American 228 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: expressions that said greeting cards, calendars, journals explain about that relationship. 229 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: And when you said greeting cards, we're talking about you know, 230 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day, called Mother's Day, called Christmas cards. When you 231 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: say greeting cards and calendars and journals, tell us how 232 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: that's all gonna work out of the Anthony Hamilton's brand. Absolutely. 233 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: Uh expression is what I do through through songs, through 234 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: a performing and and people come to me all the 235 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: time about my lyrics. So I was like, you know what, 236 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: it's already set up for me to uh to use 237 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: my words and my boys. Why not extended through greeting cards? 238 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: But the beat, holidays or just so simple. I appreciate 239 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: you and and and love you and uh and and 240 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: coming from from me, stop from Hallmark. I express it, 241 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, from my people and to my people in 242 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: a way that they wouldn't normally understand. Uh. So I 243 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: got with a African American expression, and I felt like 244 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: it was a good marriage. It's an excell American like 245 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: you said, it's a it's a conference zone to you 246 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: because you've always been an advocate for social change, always 247 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: a voice on the front line of you know what 248 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying, this is not right? And what what drives 249 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: you in that direction? It makes you be so consistent 250 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: with that tone. I think when you see uh, I 251 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: think when you see anybody, a group of people, uh, 252 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: a race of people mhm being mistreated or you know, 253 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: look down upon and uh and you feel it's not right. 254 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: You want to have justice and so much injustice surrounding 255 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: how we'll be treated and how we looked at and 256 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: our value and have them changed. After whial you this 257 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: you have to be you have to be drawn to do. 258 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: You have to be affected by it. And uh, I 259 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: thank you. And I'm a father of six boys. I 260 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: don't want them brought up in the world with that 261 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: same ignorant mentality, So why not speak on it while 262 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: I have a a platform and a lot of people 263 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: with power with you know, I can make a change. 264 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: So when I use my boy and that's important because 265 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm a parent, and you know, because you know you 266 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: when you when you're when you're a parent, there's so 267 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: many goals in life. You know, you first want a 268 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: healthy child, and then you want to raise that child 269 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: to be respectful. And then when they go to high school, 270 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: you want them to get through that process because you know, 271 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,239 Speaker 1: you're as we all have all personal high school experiences, 272 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: and when they go to college, it's kind of like 273 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: the the the unnerving part. You want them to walk 274 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: away and you want to outlive your kids. That's the goal. 275 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: You don't want to bury your kids. You want to 276 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: outlive there. And you don't want your children to have 277 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: any negative experiences. And the fact that you have six 278 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: boys that carries even bigger burden because guess what when 279 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: you look at the local news, these are the African 280 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: American young males are the ones being traumatized by the police. 281 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: So emotionally, how does that just how do you deal 282 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: with that as a as a father? And what do 283 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: you tell your your boys when you see stuff like 284 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: that happening almost on a weekly basis in the media. 285 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: And then there and then there are quiddles that for 286 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: us who watched the videos go how could that happen? 287 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: First of all, it pisses me off, and then second, 288 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, I calmed down when I said, you know what, 289 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: being angry ain't gonna always get me the results I need. 290 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: So I need for them to think through it all. 291 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: So I'm like, your gold every day is to get 292 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: home safely, unharmed and uh and to outthinks your enemy. Um, 293 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: and then it ain't all about boasting up and and 294 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: let ego getting away. I think intelligence, intelligence and and 295 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: class and can go a long way. And then sometimes 296 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: you push out pushed out of your your comfort zone 297 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: and out of the those elements. But you have to 298 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: maintain uh certain amount of calm. It's a certain amount 299 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: of um level. End that's really key, that's really yeah things. 300 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: And then I think the key you said was just 301 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: get home, Just get home, don't don't don't let pride 302 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: interrupt the journey. And the journey is to get home. 303 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: And uh if yessir needs to be said, yes, sir, 304 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: you know the follow the rules to the back. And 305 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: that's that's what I do. You know that quite frankly, 306 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: anytime I'm pulled over, you know, I'm nervous and I 307 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: like to believe that I've done nothing wrong. And so 308 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna follow the rules and and and and hopefully 309 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: if I follow the rules, that I'm going to be 310 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: allowed to go on my way, and that's really the key. 311 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: And I think that not saying I'm not I'm not 312 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 1: putting any title onto other situations. All I know is 313 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: that the bottom line. One thing that you're saying, get 314 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: home saying that's the bottom line. So I'm trying to 315 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 1: switch gears right here, because you know you've been sporting 316 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: these hatlines. Here another entrepreneurship lane for you, these hats. 317 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: Now you've been styling them, anthon that you you have 318 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: a hat line out there, come on that. I am 319 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: in the process of working on that and it's, uh, 320 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: that's one of my one of my babies. Um, I 321 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: can't wait. We're in conversations with a few people and uh, 322 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: the perfect marriage, it will come or close to the 323 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: perfect marriage. Who come, and we'll make the best of it. Um, 324 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: but it's time. It's time to that. Like you said, 325 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: I wear I've been wearing other folks hats, right, you've 326 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: been you've been sporting them, you've been styling them. You know, 327 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, photo of shoots, album covers, all that stuff. Man. Yeah, 328 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: so now it's it's time for me to uh and 329 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: build my own. Well, you're the thing I like about 330 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: this conversation because you are a successful touring performer venues 331 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: three thousand, six thousand, ten thousand sea facilities on a 332 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, monthly basis, and so these items that you're 333 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: talking about, whether it's the greeting cards with a headline, 334 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, these things can be sold to your fans 335 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: on tour. And so it's just a natural revenue generation 336 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: generating process that you're developing here. And I just really, 337 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: I really, I really like the way you're you're taking 338 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: your brand and you just designing to hate or something. 339 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: It's time for me to make revenue off the stage. 340 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: Make revenue while I'm sleepy. That's the big picture now, correct, Anthony. 341 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: That is the big picture. And uh, if you're gonna 342 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: be successful, you have to be making money while you're sleeping. 343 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: It just it just makes sense. It just it takes 344 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: the stress off you and sets up, you know, a 345 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: legacy and you know, providing these opportunities while you rest. 346 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: I think when you're chasing and chasing and chasing, you 347 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: don't get the rest you need and you don't think 348 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: properly when you when you're under the gun every time. 349 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: So while you're resting, if you're making money there's a 350 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: different comfortably wake up. Well, I'm gona tell you something. 351 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: Chef Hamilton's, Um, I'm gonna reach out to ELI and 352 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: tell them, hey, man, start sending me some videos so 353 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: I can start posting them on a weekly basis. I'm 354 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: not one of them, one of them guys who just 355 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: do it off on one one out Chef Hamilton's, We're 356 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: gonna do this on a regular basis if you want 357 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: to all. I just know that that's my that's my genre, 358 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: that's my that's that's what people follow me. My my 359 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: program director always laugh because people will say, do you 360 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: know what they guys, they know nothing about Steve Harvey, 361 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: they know nothing about money making conversation, but they know 362 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: I bake and he always laughs. And I just know 363 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: that this is something you're building. Paddler bells and Walmart. 364 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: You can be a Walmart. Two brother, let's keep winning. Ye, 365 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: let's do it. Man. I appreciate this. And uh, I 366 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: can't wait to take some of those those pies and cake. 367 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm on the real deal. We're gonna make that happen. 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