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Speaker 1: This is a headgun podcast. Celebrity Book Club. Who's that

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Speaker 1: knocking at the door. It's all your friends, your filthy horse,

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Speaker 1: It's memoirs Martini. Celebrity Book Club can read it while

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Speaker 1: it's hot. Celebrity Book Club, tell your secrets. We won't

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Speaker 1: talk celebrity books. No boys are alloud. Celebrity book stay

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Speaker 1: it loud and PLoud. Celebrity Book Club. Buzz Man. I

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Speaker 1: brought the Queer foe Hey best friend. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Lee, Marada, Stephen, Philip's horse. What a distinctive,

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Speaker 1: politically relevant pleasure to see you on this fine day.

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Speaker 1: I am your city, grateful to see you today for

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Speaker 1: many reasons. Never been more grateful to be alive. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. Today it was the type of Monday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: although you what, it's sunny. You said, I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: this life. You said, life is full of beautiful things

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Speaker 1: just sit back and appreciate them. For a second. Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: we have to talk about the book we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: But I think we should maybe mention some huge news,

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Speaker 1: some huge news, which is that, for the very second

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Speaker 1: time in history history, we have a guest, and not

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Speaker 1: just any guests. No, no, no, no no no, we have

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Speaker 1: a celebrated writer, celebrated authoress, celebrated liver of life, celebrated

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Speaker 1: person about town knew your girl, Yes, fashion icon it girl,

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Speaker 1: It woman savantt. Yeah. Well, of course we were talking

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Speaker 1: about none other than author of How to Murder Your Life,

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Speaker 1: which is a book heard of it and of the

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Speaker 1: gorgeous patrion only column Beauty of Shambles, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Cat Marnell yay here, Hi Cat, Hi, Cat Hi Hi.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us on this pod.

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Speaker 1: We are thank you the last in the most Catholic way.

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Speaker 1: The book is, of course, Beautiful Things, Beautiful Things, a

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Speaker 1: memoir by hundred. You may know him as the son

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Speaker 1: of the City US President, famous crack addict. You may

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Speaker 1: know him Landerer. You may know him as a chairman

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Speaker 1: consultant for Amtrak. Yes, he's on the board of directors

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Speaker 1: for Amtrak. Also on the board of a somewhat well

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Speaker 1: known Ukrainian natural gas company called Buru Mama. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: just have to say, like, we so we read a

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Speaker 1: bunch of somebody members for this podcast, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of them, um, they're like, maybe not someone who needed

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Speaker 1: to write a memoirs. Yeah, I agree, And I would

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Speaker 1: say Hunter like literally is the son of a president,

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Speaker 1: literally has just like insane drug addiction almost brought down

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Speaker 1: a presidential campaign, had crazy just tragedy. I feel like,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, it's kind of refreshing to read a book

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Speaker 1: that is so actually full of real content. Like we

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Speaker 1: just read Tan France's book, who has a whole chapter

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Speaker 1: devoted to mouthwash. It's like, this is someone who actually

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Speaker 1: has lived at nine lives. Yeah. And maybe it's just

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Speaker 1: because we're so like dumb ass celebrity memoir pilled. But

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Speaker 1: I kind of loved this book. I totally enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: I mean I found him very annoying sometimes surely as

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Speaker 1: a man, I mean he's a child. But I enjoyed

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Speaker 1: this book and I actually didn't want it to add

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like a beach read almost Yeah, is big.

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Speaker 1: It's very conversational, it goes, it goes quickly. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: it definitely goes quickly. I couldn't put it down to know.

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Speaker 1: I was like, you keep thinking he's going to kind

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Speaker 1: as a child. I think is quite accurate. I mean

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Speaker 1: he was forged in trauma, as he says, well, right,

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Speaker 1: there's always the saying that you stop like maturing, act whatever,

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Speaker 1: thing that definitely makes him feel like a little child.

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Speaker 1: So he calls Joe Biden mother, and then he calls

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Speaker 1: You're saying if it was someone else, you'd feel manipulated

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Speaker 1: then I streamed on my laptop. He's a modern dude. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you're like going to you go to a laptop. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: uninvited post Brittany. They're setting things up. Yeah. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: think that he is closeted. He's open, he's out. Okay,

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Speaker 1: to that Hunter Biden. I was disappointed because I heard

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Speaker 1: like little things like that. You're like, it's a bit shallow. Reminds.

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Speaker 1: on like one of his more deeper, darker, epic long

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Speaker 1: and ship to his car. Sorry, when he was like,

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Speaker 1: I was hanging out only with Samoan rappers. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: left the chateau the first time for an airbnb in Malibu.

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Speaker 1: When I couldn't reserve for longer than a week, I

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Speaker 1: I don't care who the fuck you are. Tiger Woods

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Speaker 1: indicative of the tone he is trying to set in

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Speaker 1: the book. I've served on the board of Directors at Amtrak,

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Speaker 1: Before that, I lobbied for Jesuit universities. I helped secure

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Speaker 1: training programs, were teachers in lowcome neighborhoods, Philadelphia Mental Health

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Speaker 1: facility for underprivileged and disabled, venerates in Cincinnati. My point,

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Speaker 1: I've done serious work for serious people. It's like, you

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Speaker 1: help secure funding for a dental clinic. Okay, obsessed, but

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Speaker 1: it's just like, Okay, volunteered for Amtrak. I mean that

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Speaker 1: whole family and their Amtrak. Well that's fashion Delaware and

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Speaker 1: sell a corridor. Their whole thing is. I didn't get

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Speaker 1: to DC quickly. But it's just like it's like my point,

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Speaker 1: My point is that I've actually had jobs. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I you had jobs, like okay, like fair, like everyone

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Speaker 1: has jobs. Like your jobs were at like offices that

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Speaker 1: were like politically connected, because like your dad's a senator

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Speaker 1: and like that's the world you grew up in. Like,

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Speaker 1: but then he has to like when he talks about

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Speaker 1: their childhood, he like needs to prove for like Biden's

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Speaker 1: America that he's like we were actually staunchly middle class

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Speaker 1: and I didn't grow up like in the White House.

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Speaker 1: But then he'll talk about being in a sauna with

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Speaker 1: just like okay, I sessed with when he's in the

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Speaker 1: Senate sauna building with like so many like old Mama,

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Speaker 1: and he was young Ted Kennedy walking Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: where's my question? Did you think that everyone was fully

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Speaker 1: nude in that sauna? It was towel wide wide like

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Speaker 1: stance like you've got like what it like, what's his name?

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Speaker 1: But who's the guy bird sent like from it was

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Speaker 1: like ninety seven years old, like walking in his asses,

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Speaker 1: like at his ankles, falls to the grounds, to the

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Speaker 1: absolute floor. Do you remember it? Obviously, this is the

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Speaker 1: part that the biggest impression on me was the sauna.

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Speaker 1: Of all this, it's just weird because he spent so

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Speaker 1: much references to suna. Again later well, at the end

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Speaker 1: he does he's like talk about a boy who went

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Speaker 1: into a senate sauna, and people said, hey, boys, I

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Speaker 1: swear to god, I must have missed like three pages

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Speaker 1: or something where I picked up again. But I did

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Speaker 1: read this book into the night one time, and like

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Speaker 1: when I was like, I mean, my my gay eye

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Speaker 1: thirty seconds just by like flipping through the pages. I

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Speaker 1: didn't make me feel because obviously, like there is the

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Speaker 1: Biden and I would say, like McCain that sort of

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Speaker 1: like stripe of politicians or Cindy McCain, she loves Joe,

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Speaker 1: Like there is this incredible nostalgia for a time when

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Speaker 1: the MSNBC's, before all the vitriol, when when all guys

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Speaker 1: we just worked together, work together, getting a sauna, light

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Speaker 1: up a cigar in assanna, with their balls on the

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Speaker 1: floor and just be like, well, mac, are we gonna

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Speaker 1: hammer out this immigration deal or what. But it's like

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Speaker 1: all these people were still like awful people. And He's like,

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Speaker 1: remember when awful politicians could argue with other awful politicians

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Speaker 1: come to an agreement and I could, yes, I'm done,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, but it's like, you know what that was

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Speaker 1: That was the sense that our politicians were working together.

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Speaker 1: It was the sense that they were slapping each other's

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Speaker 1: ball in the sana. Did that give a mare a

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Speaker 1: greater sense of comfort? I think so. I think it

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Speaker 1: did because it's like, either way, what are they really doing? Right? Man?

542
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Speaker 1: Being nude together? It's like rich white man. It's like

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Speaker 1: some Ivy League club. Every time you walk by the

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Speaker 1: Yale Club, but you smell the chlory and you're like,

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Speaker 1: people are fucking scowling in there. I wish Hunter Biden

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Speaker 1: would become an exercise addict. I feel like if he

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Speaker 1: stays in LA. So this book is similar to mine.

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Speaker 1: Do you go to LA at the end. But you

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Speaker 1: get to the end and it's so skinny the amount

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Speaker 1: of pages left. When he's still just like deep into

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Speaker 1: using drugs, You're like, Okay, there's no way he does

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Speaker 1: any like meaningful recovery. And I like that because I

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Speaker 1: think that's a realistic portrayal of it's not to come

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Speaker 1: to God. I was on a mountain doing yoga and

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Speaker 1: that's when I realized, like, everybody's story is different, and

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Speaker 1: yet there's this trope with these stupid books where it's

557
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Speaker 1: like it has to be the same and you have

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Speaker 1: to be like likable and you do it like a robot.

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Speaker 1: I mean I did. I was writing my book being

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Speaker 1: like damn, I but I was better. So that's why

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Speaker 1: I do believe him when he says that he's better now,

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Speaker 1: because it doesn't mean he's not going to get worse again.

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Speaker 1: But I choose to accept that this person came into

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Speaker 1: his life and made a difference. That he's doing other

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Speaker 1: things now, the painting, whatever's in the newspaper. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that doesn't mean that he's not going to get

567
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Speaker 1: bad again. But as someone who's improved drastically and changed

568
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Speaker 1: my life totally without full sobriety and without twelve stuff,

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Speaker 1: I give people more credit than others might who are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he didn't get sober. But I would love for him

571
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Speaker 1: to become like an exercise addict, because I addicts can

572
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Speaker 1: do really well getting hooked one. That's probably what I like.

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Speaker 1: I am not an addict, like I've never My experience

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Speaker 1: with drugs has always been that I've been able to

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Speaker 1: not do them if I don't want to, and I

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Speaker 1: could like stop smoking cigarettes or stop do you know,

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Speaker 1: smoking weed, or like say no to another line like

578
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Speaker 1: if I feel like it, And so I've never felt

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Speaker 1: like what people describe addiction be like. But what I

580
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Speaker 1: do relate to is the obsessiveness. And I can get

581
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Speaker 1: very obsessive about something to be very subart about something.

582
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that, like I see that coming

583
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Speaker 1: up and when he's talking about it, just being like

584
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Speaker 1: and I just like had to do this thing. And

585
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Speaker 1: then I was just like, well, I'm gonna sit in

586
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Speaker 1: my car and like smoke eighteen other bowls there was

587
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Speaker 1: there's like there's a panic element of it that I

588
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Speaker 1: totally relate to. And just like once you get an idea,

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Speaker 1: you're here, You're like, well, now I'm gonna become obsessed

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Speaker 1: with this thing, and I'm gonna do this thing, and

591
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Speaker 1: I'm going to drive to Nashville and like do crack

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Speaker 1: for four days and then I'm gonna get a plane

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Speaker 1: and then I'm going to drive to another hotel and

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Speaker 1: then I'm gonna like sit in this hotel for like

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Speaker 1: four weeks and just this like weird, like you know,

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Speaker 1: very like internal facing obsession. Well that's what I wondered,

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Speaker 1: is Melissa his new obsession obsession with what kat was?

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Speaker 1: What helped you sort of move out of your addiction?

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Speaker 1: Was there a person? Was it love or no? Was

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Speaker 1: and was it a South Africa? Okay? Now, but I

601
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Speaker 1: would love to go to South Africa. I really think

602
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Speaker 1: that the only thing that helped me was time, day

603
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Speaker 1: after day, adding up where I felt better and better,

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Speaker 1: Like didn't take at at all for one year. For

605
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Speaker 1: two years, I was like, oh my god, this is

606
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Speaker 1: so much better. And that's the only thing that's selfish

607
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Speaker 1: on my part. Be like I never wanted to fix

608
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Speaker 1: it for anybody else, for anything else, But you're gonna die.

609
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Speaker 1: You're a mess. You'sn't that get it? Like you know nothing.

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Speaker 1: It was only when I felt better, because people just

611
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Speaker 1: want to be comfortable or they want to have energy.

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Speaker 1: When I was like, oh, I have more energy. Now

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Speaker 1: now I'm like, I'm not doing that like I would never.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you when you don't like smoking weed

615
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Speaker 1: because it makes you tired, if you're that type of person,

616
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Speaker 1: maybe you guys smoke weed. I'm the person who doesn't

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Speaker 1: smoke weed. It's like that. Now I realized adderall makes

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Speaker 1: me tired, even though it's supposed to speed me up.

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Speaker 1: And now I just protect everything. Very selfish it is.

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Speaker 1: But then everyone's like, oh, you're doing cigarette Like actually,

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, I mean that's what happened to me

622
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Speaker 1: with both cigarettes and weed, where I stopped smoking them

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Speaker 1: as sort of a trial with myself, and I felt

624
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Speaker 1: remember when we was like, I'm not gonna smoke to

625
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Speaker 1: me go to Fire Island that time we went to

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Speaker 1: a house in faire Land like two summers ago, and

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Speaker 1: then I like spent a whole six weeks not smoking

628
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Speaker 1: cigarettes and was just like, I have so much more

629
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Speaker 1: energy and I can walk upstairs without dying. I was

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Speaker 1: just like, well, I'm gonna keep doing this now. And

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632
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Speaker 1: necessarily hurt the people you love in the same way,

633
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: but all in long term, long term. I mean. Also,

634
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: it couldn't smell. And sometimes you're like, okay, you smell likeake,

635
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: Cigrettes or whatever, your coat, your clothes smell which community show.

636
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, in the same way, it was like it

637
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: was a very selfish, come to Jesus smell man. I

638
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: was not like, oh, I have to for my health.

639
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: That's the only thing that works. And it's you know this,

640
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: this guy is in this book, so deep in the addiction,

641
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: and he's not even nice about it in these moments.

642
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the ghost editor, the ghostwriter,

643
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: whomever it is, Like I if I had been working

644
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: on this book. I've done some ghosts editing work. I

645
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: would have stopped the narration in places and really made

646
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: Hunter go deeper into smaller moments waking up, Like he

647
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: says he doesn't sleep befourse, he must like what is

648
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: it to wake up? Describe you know, just a little

649
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: bit more this. It does seem quite rush. But that's

650
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: why because I like those parts where he's talking about

651
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: doing drugs and like that you know there it would

652
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: be quite evocative and like quite like, oh wow, He's

653
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: like when he's talking about, um, I should find some passage,

654
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: but he's like thet when he's like drinking for fourteen days,

655
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: hasn't eaten, hasn't even drank water, And you're kind of like,

656
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: what's the way that the like the crack pipe feels

657
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: like when you first had that hit and it's like

658
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: that bang or rush and just like everything feels incredible

659
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: and you're just like alive and like kind of started

660
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: by coke a little bit. I mean, I guess cocaine.

661
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: It's made from coke. Eddigan. People, whenever you write an

662
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: addiction book, and I'm guilty this too, people give you

663
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: so much better for being honest about the addiction. They

664
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: they what you don't realize is how incredibly easy that

665
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: it's because you're validated so much where and everyone's just like,

666
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: great job. But it's so it's all behavior, it's all

667
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: crazy behavior. And because it's chemically induced, it's like you

668
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: can say anything, you can just it's just so easy

669
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: to talk about this stuff and write about it, and

670
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: it's not hard because somehow it isn't you and people

671
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: know that it's your addiction. And so it's actually a

672
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: really impersonal thing that you get blatted for being so

673
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: honest by talking about in the meantime, like I don't

674
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: write about my first of all life, that's the really

675
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: vulnerable stuff. That's what's more present than the caravan look

676
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: back and he references a little bit. I mean, let's

677
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: talk about so he famously has an affair with his

678
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: brother who died of brain cancers wife and they're grieving together,

679
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: and you actually do get I mean, it's very the

680
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: L words Season three, Laura and Alice. Laura and Alice

681
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: like grieving over Dana together and then they started dating.

682
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: Ever watched the L word cat don't know about it?

683
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: That's fine episode and put it on our show page,

684
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: all right, just the best friend and the best friend

685
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: and the lover and then in this case the brother

686
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: and the lover, like you know, they are the only

687
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: people who really get what each other's going through, and

688
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: you know it makes still have sense. It's incredibly isolating

689
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: to lose some when you're that close to But when

690
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: he tells the part about how Kathleen finds out because

691
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: he's like some old iPads somewhere must have been connected

692
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: and she saw the text messages come through, it's just like,

693
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: oh my god, imagine you're a strange husband. You find

694
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: out that he is fucking his dead, You're fully have

695
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: these three kids. They're like he like won't call that,

696
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: he won't even call that. He's like abandoned in favor

697
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: of his addiction. It's like, oh, the iPad to watch

698
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: scandal in bed, right, And then you see these texts

699
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: come through multi from Bo's wife being just like when

700
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: are you coming over? And just sink your underwears here

701
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: and just like, yeah, I don't know, I liked this book.

702
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 1: We're maybe just only saying negative, negative negative. I would

703
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: like to say three things quickly that I liked. I

704
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: love that, love that no no, because you things are

705
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: put out just to be torn apart. The thing. Okay,

706
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: Like I said, this is a bee tree. This is

707
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: a book you can literally take anywhere. You can read

708
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: it waiting for your COVID task, like in a line

709
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: with a melion distract. It's so easy to read. It's

710
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: this juicy as like chick lit. And then two, I

711
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: like it as a pop culture document. This is a

712
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: wild book, no matter all the things that we're analyzing here,

713
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: the fact that we have so much to say, it's

714
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: a while that exists with a sitting president. And three,

715
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: I think it's very cinematic. There's a lot of I

716
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: hope it gets turned into something else, and I hope

717
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: that Hunter leans into his artistic side more though I

718
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: am disappointed that he's not going to be running around

719
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: the art world every year. Sorry to maybe it sounds

720
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: like he's painting from morn till night when Melissa makes

721
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: us lunch and Melissa makes him lunch and he makes

722
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: the coffee and the house is full of paintings over there,

723
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: and a but I think that's exactly what you said.

724
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: Why it's like, yes, we're like roasting parts of this

725
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: book or kind of taking stuff down. But the reason

726
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: why we can do that is because this is like

727
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: a full rod full movie and I totally are the

728
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: Porsche owls are guiding us. I will say this book

729
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: I actually liked in some ways. I related to this

730
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: book more than any book we've read since Agassy, and

731
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: I think I relate to these like we love these troubled, troubled,

732
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: obsessive men who are just like weird and just like

733
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: kind of like immature and just like push everyone around

734
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: them away. Um and I but the part when they

735
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: go Okay, So he goes to a Barisma board meeting

736
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: in Monte Carlo and he brings his daughter and it

737
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: sounded literally like that like my favorite Mandy Moore movie

738
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: of all time, or she's the President's daughter chasing Liberty. Yeah,

739
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: and it's like and he's like, so I was in

740
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: Monte Carlo, Wait, where's this part? Okay? Um? So he okay,

741
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: first of all, he talks about beat at this board

742
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: meeting and like telling off these old men about what

743
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: he really thought about Brexit, and he made that big

744
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: mistake because like he was right about Brexit, and it's

745
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: just like, okay, you're really making yourself look so good

746
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: here trying to say that you're this badass like punk

747
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: son from America who's telling these old fuddy duddy who

748
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: don't get it coming that they don't know that Bregsit's

749
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: about to hit like a fucking bomb in their perfect

750
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: little economic forum world. It's like, Okay, a calm down,

751
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: and he's like The discussion quickly turned combative then bordered

752
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: on ugly. I spotted Naomi's squirremating the audience this is

753
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: his daughter. I got through a reach for a couple

754
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: of drinks afterwards. That night, well, Naomi went off if

755
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: Zlovchevsky daughter. That was almost my favorite line of the book.

756
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, can we please getet up camera? Pan to

757
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: what Naomi, who he has described previously as having no neck,

758
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: as just being this like massive Ukrainian, just like bouncer

759
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: who runs this natural gas company. And it's just like,

760
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that their night in Monte Carlo, Theo daughter,

761
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: their night in Monte Carlo, literally what happened? Also, Nami's like, yeah,

762
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: my dad's a fucking mess. We can literally do what ever.

763
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: I'm sure she took the card. She was like no, literally,

764
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: he won't even notice. He can charge whatever the fuck

765
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: we want, and they're just going to like Louis Viton

766
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: like Fendi, how whether like buying so much, Like I'm

767
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: sure they're railing lines, like because he's railing lines and

768
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: not even know his daughter is I would love moron

769
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: his lesbian daughter Mazie. But that's kind of not She's

770
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: not the start of the book. No, he says she

771
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: loves adventure. Though I love that part. I was just like,

772
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: I bet you she's a real poem boy wearing Air

773
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: Force ones the inauguration badass. Look, these are glamorous people.

774
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: This is a glamorous world. This is a heightened elevated thing,

775
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: and like this book isn't faking out on it. Like

776
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: if anything, all of these people are annoying the Trump's annoying,

777
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: these political family. It doesn't matter because they all get gas.

778
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: They're all you know, they lean in to the shallow

779
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: stuff and if they didn't it would seem kind of phony.

780
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: So this is like a real perfect I guess the

781
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: other reason why I like it is him being real.

782
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: It's like it's even though he didn't get so Christian,

783
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: which it could it could have been like a little

784
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: bit like less details and a little more like God

785
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: save me, and I was, yeah, I'm sure every other Biden.

786
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure if Bo Biden wrote a book,

787
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,479
Speaker 1: may he Rest in Power? Like it would be incredibly boring. Dude,

788
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: this guy is a fucking Bertie Stonella's character. And wait,

789
00:39:55,160 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: have you seen the nudes you have the fondling at computer.

790
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's very strange, the ones where he's in

791
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: the hotel, the sacks and yeah, he's like, it's it's

792
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: actually wild to see on the screen because that is

793
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: what a man looks like on drugs in a situation.

794
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: Like people have written these things a million times. It's

795
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: just crazy to actually see photos because he's got the

796
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: bags of the eyes. He's caught kind of a paunch,

797
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: but he's also still gaunt. It's like that weird combo. Yeah,

798
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: it's like it's lame. It's and he's i mean whatever

799
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: in his spray tans, he's been His spray tan on

800
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: the back on the inside jacket is like not a

801
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: color found in nature. That is not a golf course

802
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: tan that usually get from photographs of rich people. It's

803
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: too orange. And his hair. Definitely he's died. If he

804
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: was well, would you like if he approached you at

805
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: so let's say a gallery, hotel or gallery. I would

806
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: go hang out with him and shore, but would you

807
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: huck up? I've been I've been sucked in by guys

808
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: like this before. I mean maybe for the story, but

809
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: the important thing is not too yeah down the pack,

810
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: like some guy like this is sucking the women in

811
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: and then with no intention of not hurting them, like

812
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: he's obviously also like addicted to like and there's inherent

813
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: misogyny and sexism. I don't care how woke you are

814
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: from your liberal family, Like, if you're treating women like shit,

815
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: there's something much bigger that needs to go down for

816
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: all men. Well, you can tell when he doesn't reference

817
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: his sister and is always like it's gonna be us

818
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: three ye, me, Bow and Joe and we're gonna ride

819
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: our motorcycles up at California coast. Even though he talks

820
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: about Hallie or you know, Bo's wife, he's he's always

821
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: like she was like kind of hanging around and like

822
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: I never really got like why, like they were into her,

823
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: like she seemed kind of like random, but then like

824
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 1: she and Kathleen were friends. I guess it's like she's

825
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: this peripheral figure and he just kind of only sees

826
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: her like vaguely interacting with other family members. And then

827
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: he's like, but we were both sad, and he was

828
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: like Kathleen and her weren't even friends. And Bow told

829
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: Halle on the net of the way, I think it

830
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: sounded like really tense between them, sounded super tense. In

831
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: the boat was like, actually, um, you need to be

832
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: friends with Kathleen because Hunter is my best friend. And

833
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: it was just like the wives like had to like

834
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: work together. It's like to make sure that it didn't

835
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: interfere with the brother's friendship. I mean, sure, this guy

836
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: he has women thrown in him all like everybody. It's

837
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: a president's son and he's had that his entire life,

838
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: or senator's son or whatever. It's a it goes back

839
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: to the masculine the SPA in with the Kennedy or

840
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: whomever or it was. I don't think it was a

841
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: full service SPA. Man shit in the SPA saying like

842
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Speaker 1: he needs to grow up. There's something sexist about this book. Yeah,

843
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: but I do wish his new South African wife the

844
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: best and their new baby. I guess Yeah, I absolutely

845
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: wish them the full best segment Why Why does She Wear?

846
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: How does She Live? Um? Okay, so randomly, we did

847
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: have some technical difficulties with our guests, and we want

848
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: to be super transparent with our listeners because we love you. Yeah,

849
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: and we don't want you to think that we're trying

850
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: to pull the wool over your eyes, because that's not

851
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,479
Speaker 1: what our politics are about. Put the blanket under your seat,

852
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: pull the rugs under your ass, you know. No, no,

853
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: much like Hunter Biden, we share even the stuff hard,

854
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: and that includes the fact that there was in medical

855
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: difficulties that corrupted Cat Marnell's audio for just the last

856
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: part where we sort of did sacred bye and thank

857
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: you and really show our audience that we respect our

858
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: guests and that we are grateful for them, but also

859
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: show our guests that and show each other that. Yeah continues,

860
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: and so I would just like to formally state thank

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00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: you so much Cat Marnell recommend the show. Um. I

862
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: would also like to just to piggyback on that thought. Um,

863
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: that was so much fun. Cat. Are you there? Cat? Yeah,

864
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: if you're in radio land, please know that we do

865
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: thank you. Andre you about podcast Okay, no, it's a

866
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: wild riding. You never knew we were gotting like you

867
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: got TOOM, you got mikes, you got USBs, you got

868
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: able to. It's a fucking circus and everything has to

869
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: go right and sometimes it doesn't. And that's live podcast

870
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: for you. When it live podcasts that are recorded three

871
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: weeks before release. Well, well now you're revealing our lead time.

872
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: But okay, how we're being honest actually transport. So thank you,

873
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: kat you guys, y'all buy her book. It's called How

874
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: to Murder Your Life and bleeze. Also do subscribe to

875
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: her Patreon, which is called baby Shambles and Beauty Samples

876
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: Beauty Shambles. God be damn it, Lily, God damn it. Okay, okay, okay,

877
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: can we make We all make mistakes. Um. And there

878
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: are a lot of travel tips and makeup tips in there.

879
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: Um if that's noting you're interested in. Okay, now let's

880
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: talk about the freaking segments segments stuff. Um wow, okay,

881
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: what does she eat? What she eat? I sorry, okay,

882
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: so this is actually kind of the opposite it's like

883
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: opposite day. Um, this is something he doesn't eat. He

884
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: doesn't like beer because like he's a vodka guy, right,

885
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: but just like there are times when he says that

886
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: he is downing a ton of beer. It's like when

887
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: he's in high school. Yeah, and he's just like, okay,

888
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: so right, he downs beer. But then this actually felt

889
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: a little bit Jessica to me of the what what

890
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: he does hear um lyrically so in terms of the writing. Yeah,

891
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: so basically he like relapses. He's married, He's had a

892
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: bunch of bloody marys. Oh isn't He's on the plane, yeah, yeah,

893
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: And I just say, which is that bloody Mary? Maybe

894
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: want to bloody marry on a plane? There is nothing

895
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: better than a bloody marry in a plane. And sometimes

896
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: what I do, and you've maybe seen me do this

897
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: on planes, I order a bloody Mary mix. If I

898
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: don't want to get drunk on the plane, I order

899
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: just bloody Marrymris. That's actually a common thing for planes.

900
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: I learned that by just being on a plane. You

901
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: don't see people drink on the street. Bloody Mary mix. No,

902
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: And I don't know why because it's salty, it's delicious.

903
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you. I'll always say that VA takes

904
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: years off your life. But I've also heard, and this

905
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: is such a boneap or like a triple A magazine thing,

906
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: people say to drink tomato juice in the sky because

907
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: it replenishes your like salt. That's basically that's why people

908
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,959
Speaker 1: do a V eight in the sky. Right. I haven't

909
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: had a bloody Mary since we had that like awful

910
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: disgusting brunch. Oh what that brunch I know you're talking about.

911
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: And we got those baking bloody this bacon like blameery Yeah,

912
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: And it was like it was the type of brunch

913
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: one it was like indoor canceled us. And well, now

914
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: that's not canceled ball, but right, I feel like it

915
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: was just on the verge. It was canceling that. And

916
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: it was a remark because I feel like anytime we

917
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: have gone out to eat in the pandemic, it's been like,

918
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: let's go to a place like we know, we love

919
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: and like you know, like what what food really is

920
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: to us? Yeah, And this was like, oh, this is

921
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: a reminder of just like shitty overprice O price restaurants

922
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: in the world. Yeah, that were no unhappy. It's like

923
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: I know that none of these chefs are like love

924
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: what they're making like the waiters are all like past

925
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: like you're a past like. Obviously brunch was the most

926
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: like throwaway meals over that's where they made their money.

927
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: It's over, I mean sex knowlars, rags come on right.

928
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: So it was like I have the most disgusting fucking

929
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: croaks where it was mad of like Arnold's weedd It

930
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: was literally arnold Ceedar bread and it was just like

931
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: not even the bread wasn't even toasted before they made it,

932
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: so it was so foppy and and then it was

933
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: wet with all the cheese and the egg. It's like

934
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: probably one of the worst meals I think I've had

935
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Speaker 1: in my life. I don't know the name of it,

936
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: but it's some prestaurant staurant in French restaurant in like

937
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Heights. And you know, I'm not here to cancel

938
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: small businesses. Small businesses and they are the life flet

939
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: of the city. And thank you Andrew Cuomo or Chuck Shoo,

940
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: Thank you Chuck Shimmer for saving brunch, for saving our screens.

941
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: Literally I told you this when I was I was driving,

942
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: I saw a Nighthawks marquee and it's a thank you

943
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: Chuck Shimmer. And I was kind of I was like,

944
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 1: why did he save your screens? Really? I thought, because

945
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: I know Klobuchar saved the stages. I just feel like

946
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: she made a post about the stages. Okay, I think

947
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: she was me and producer Meg are cloub Mob I know,

948
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: and I think she like because she's so like, let's

949
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: get back to the hunter. He's had a bloody marry

950
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: and he doesn't like beer, but then he gets home.

951
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: Then you think, if I drink three of those big

952
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: bottles of Chamai and Ale brewed by Trappis monks in Belgium,

953
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: that's twelve percent alcohol, I'll get a better buzz for

954
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: about the same amount of liquid. But that's a lot

955
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: of fluid to put down, and you'll still don't really

956
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: like beer no matter what kind of monk bruise it.

957
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: Why not just pick up a half pint of vodka?

958
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: And it's like he still has to be so right, like,

959
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: even though he doesn't like beer, he still has to

960
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: be random craft beer dude about it. Jamio's actually um

961
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: brew by Trappis. I have to say, though, this is

962
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: him and so college, because I feel like, dude all

963
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: discovered that Buddhist beer. We all know what that beer,

964
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: and we all like had drank that in college at

965
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: a certain point because it was higher percentage and you

966
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: could go to the Delhi like they don't have hard

967
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: liquor actually didn't. Oh you didn't go to school in

968
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: New York City, but there were some places where you could.

969
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: That was the highest alcohol thy okay, Sofi Deli. And

970
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: so it's very college of him, and he obviously he's

971
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: so frat and like so college and just like Bo

972
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: wasn't a frat and like he like wasn't in a

973
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: frat and he was like weird about it because he

974
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: was just like yeah, and like Bo obviously could like

975
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: being a frad and like I couldn't make friends. It's

976
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: hard for me because I was like so pathetic and

977
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm like obsessed with my dad and my brother and

978
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: like so when I went to college at Georgetown, I

979
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: was always leaving to go hanwoy dad, like at the

980
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: Senate sona, Oh, I know what it's like. He's being

981
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: like all I he was. He would be like, oh,

982
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: my daddy, my big daddy, Joe Biden. Okay, so we've

983
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: covered that he doesn't drink a beer. Fel like that's

984
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: all we've got. Okay, so what does he eat? I

985
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: mean definitely in this book he doesn't need anything because

986
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: he's just like a crackhead cracks forgetting to eat, and

987
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: he's just like he just gets like oh no she no, no.

988
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: He Actually another reason why we're not addicts, because like

989
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: we're never like, yes, sometimes I am being thin girl

990
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: running around the city, but like we're still both just

991
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: being like, okay, now it's time for right she's a

992
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: burger and um he actually he actually she has one

993
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: of my super favorite snacks, smart food. He said. Oh wait,

994
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: I ain't with the fact that he's sometimes he said,

995
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: he's smoked smoked so much smart food cheddar, because you'll

996
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: be looking around for dust in the car. Okay, that

997
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: I also related to because like how many times have

998
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: you smoked carpet when you're trying to pack a ball?

999
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: Oh yes, and you're looking around for weed dust. That

1000
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: was very college, where it was like, okay, you have

1001
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: one bowl left. I mean, obviously I'm not additted. Not obviously,

1002
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: who knows, you don't You don't know my life. I

1003
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: have not ever tried crack cocaine. But college I was

1004
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 1: so resent no, I know. I mean there was there's

1005
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: times and all throughout my twenties I would say, oh, no,

1006
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: are you okay? I just I mean talk about addicts.

1007
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: I just built a white claw. You just built a

1008
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: white claw. Yeah, I have to get on my overstock

1009
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: dot com carpet. What the fuck, Lily, I'm getting? Wow,

1010
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: that's really it's the fucking Hunter Biden episode. This is

1011
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: a fucking disaster. You've hurt everyone you love. I didn't

1012
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: for the ball, the paper towel. I just gone wait

1013
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: and take my salter use. I mean also water. It's

1014
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: literally clear. I don't know what I'm dabbing out right now.

1015
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: I want to apologize to our listeners. I want to

1016
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: apologize to Stephen. I want to apologize to promote projects

1017
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: and head gum. Thank you okay, anyway, now that you've

1018
00:51:54,680 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: like completely destroyed my sanctuary, thank you so much. So

1019
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: what does he where? Okay? So obviously he's like so

1020
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: blazer in jeans just all the time. He's like, yeah,

1021
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: he's a rumpled politician son, like I feel like he is.

1022
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: Do you think he's getting like a pair of paper

1023
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: denom in cloth or maybe that references out of date?

1024
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: Now but like whatever like the Levi's maid and crop

1025
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 1: did at like Bloomingdales or at Berg Dwarf's like once

1026
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: every once a year he has an annual denam trip.

1027
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: I think it's a once a year denim. But I

1028
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: bet he has a pair of jeans that is probably

1029
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: like a paper denomor and acme that he's been rocking

1030
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: like a sevens that he's been rocking for a while,

1031
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: that he knows if he just puts those on. I

1032
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: mean his style is very stitch fixed. It's very those

1033
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: like or like what's up ones like men's delivery services

1034
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: where it's this um camel leather bomber aviator Yeah, well

1035
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: like father like sons. And I think he's he's class

1036
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: like midnight blue suit at an event again aviators. Yeah,

1037
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean he looks he looks like presentable enough and

1038
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: then he's like dashing off to the bathroom to hit

1039
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: the crack pike. Yeah that's how he did it, Okay,

1040
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: But so how does he live? I just feel like

1041
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: he currently how does he live? I think again sails like,

1042
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: don't you think it's so? His whole thing is at

1043
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: the end of the book, it's like love letter to

1044
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: bo basically like telling him about California and being like,

1045
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: so it looks at amazing California monitor, it looks like

1046
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: any it looks like fucking what's the Dakota Johnson's like

1047
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: three point one million dollar house. It's got like not

1048
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,479
Speaker 1: the one in the Architectural Digest tour. Yeah, I'm thinking

1049
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: it's like funky with like a quipond and like green.

1050
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: No one's as funky as Dakota Johnson's. It's not just

1051
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: that forest green fucking stove that I get sponsored ads

1052
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: for sometimes. Okay, I think, um, I think Hunter Biden's

1053
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: house is a little more centrist than you're thinking. I um.

1054
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: I liked to Johnson's communist Choppel friend of the pod

1055
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: um Eva. She has a navy blue couch that she

1056
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: refers to as her centrist couch. Okay, yeah, like deep

1057
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 1: like democrat, Yeah, deep dumb blue couches. And I wonder

1058
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: if his couches is more Nancy Meyer. And I feel

1059
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 1: like his wife, he's maning to do some funky South

1060
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: African things. What is funky South Africa? I don't know.

1061
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: I watched. I did see it's like all white white couches,

1062
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 1: like white like white Island like right, but maybe there's

1063
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: something a little mediterranean. I don't know. I did see

1064
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: and this is maybe this is cheating. I remember I

1065
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: did see some video about him painting in his studio

1066
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: with like Jenna bush Hager, some like zoom some zoom

1067
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: like some like presidential. It seemed a little I don't know.

1068
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: The house seemed a little bit small. I'll say that

1069
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: it was it's late to the zoom. She's coming in

1070
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: on her phone. She's at Variety. They're still making her latte.

1071
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: It's five, she's just getting her days started. He was

1072
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 1: in his studio and then he went to the kitchen.

1073
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: It was very like I can't believe he fully cheated,

1074
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: but go on, no, well this is pree book. I'm

1075
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: just I'm just time. This is just a straight up memory, okay.

1076
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: And it was just like white modern table. It honestly

1077
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: felt like yeah, I'll say that, like, okay, maybe he's

1078
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: paying off the taxes and all those pen all of

1079
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: his kids go to pen. It's like, no, I know,

1080
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: I mean he's literally got like so much education data

1081
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,479
Speaker 1: or whatever, and it's like I just like I feel

1082
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: like his style lease like Lesia Carr. Yes, yeah, well,

1083
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean, as you know, it loses value the second

1084
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: driving off the lot. I just convinced someone to lease.

1085
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: I think though his style is very um is like

1086
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of dictated by his addiction. I gets dictated

1087
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: by hotels. It's like he has but he does have

1088
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: like normal like upper middle class East Coast taste where

1089
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: he just wants to stay at like Sentra's blue couch

1090
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 1: such base. But his hotel taste is a little bit cheeker,

1091
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: where it's more like he wants to stay at the

1092
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: Standard instead of staying at the Conrad. You know what

1093
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: I mean. M Like, he's always saying at boutique hotels.

1094
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: He's not saying like he's in a boutique. He's at

1095
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: the fucking chateau. No, he's not Ritz, like that's Trump.

1096
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: That's why it's like he's staying like that's he's cold play.

1097
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: He's staying at the Standard. Yeah, okay, this is the

1098
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: part that I thought was like, so Molly's game where

1099
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: he's talking about his time in hotels. An ant trail

1100
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: of dealers in their sidekicks rolled in and out day

1101
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: and night. They pulled up in late series Mercedes Benzes

1102
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: decked out and oversized raiders or Lakers' jerseys and flashing

1103
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: fake rolexis. They're stripper. Girlfriends invited their girlfriends, who invited

1104
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: their boyfriends. They drink up the entire mini bar, call

1105
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: room service or filet mignon a bottle of Don perignon.

1106
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: One of the women even ordered an additional filet for

1107
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: her preseized dog that purside the steak for the dog.

1108
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: When they finished two or three days later, they'd walk

1109
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: out with the hotel's monogram towels and throw pillas and

1110
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: comforters and ashtrays, minimum wage bouncers, and with side businesses drugs, girls,

1111
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: access to vip rooms for tips. They now had a

1112
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: new hustle me the beginning of the movie. Yes, no,

1113
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: that is how the movies start. Yes, they had a

1114
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 1: new hustle me, like this is the movie where it's

1115
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: like actually not really about the Bow's death, you know

1116
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. It like it's more like starting with

1117
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: and it's like a little more Margo Robbie and yeah

1118
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: it's Margo Robbie. I mean, I know this is the

1119
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: movie that's a feb release. Oh see, I think they

1120
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: would actually try to go over Oscar and it would

1121
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: be December release. Well I think the movie should be

1122
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: that's what they would try. Yes, but there's a version

1123
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: that's a little more rounders. It's a little more Molly's Game.

1124
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: That's a jam Fabran Favin. No one's seen it but us. Yeah,

1125
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: who are you? And You're daughter? And then I'm always

1126
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: down for an adventure, and I just feel like I

1127
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: feel like amazing, like is pister or dad? But at

1128
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: the same time, like not too much. Well, it's kind

1129
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: of hard to tell what affect their dad's addiction had

1130
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: on them. And like, I mean, okay, the thing about Kathleen,

1131
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: the name Kathleen is the most way eighties name ever.

1132
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: So it's like, so Kathleen sounds pissed, do you know

1133
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: what I mean? I just I need to correct you

1134
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: for one second. Sorry, you keep on saying waspy. Okay,

1135
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, I know, they're just kind of wild

1136
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: because you know, they're like it's like that was such

1137
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: a huge thing for Catholicism because like we haven't had

1138
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: a Catholic president since JFK and now we have a

1139
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: Catholic president. Got it? Okay? Sorry, but I just like

1140
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: when I think, I guess I did the most Irish name. Yeah,

1141
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: it's like white tense. I just mean like tents, East Coast,

1142
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: mid Atlantick boots, and like Kathleen is just like Kathleen. Yes,

1143
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: but it's more Irish. To me, it's a little more

1144
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: like Kathleen get down here. Yeah, that's true. I guess

1145
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: that's not more When I say a little more kitchen,

1146
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: it's a little more lace curtain. To me, it's lace curtain.

1147
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: It is, yes, no, And sometimes I misused the phrase

1148
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: waspy and I should be talking about Connecticut women named

1149
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: Lydia and I'm not thank you. I misused the word bospy,

1150
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: but that's because I grew up in a crazy fun house,

1151
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,479
Speaker 1: like raised by someone a Catholic who was impersonated a wasp,

1152
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: which is that's the definition of lace curtain, right, because

1153
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: like my mom grew Catholic poor and then she's pretending

1154
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: to be these so it's like, yes, right, And that's

1155
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: why the shanty or kitchen sink would be like, oh,

1156
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: you think you're too good for us? You want to

1157
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: be a wasp? Right, go for it? Yeah, I know

1158
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: how fun, how fun? I know where you came from, Kathleen,

1159
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: I know where you came from. My aunt's name a lesbian,

1160
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: not his names Kathleen. That's what I'm saying, Like it's

1161
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: a little more Yeah, yeah, it's not kitchen sinc So,

1162
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: so who are you think? Are you Bow's wife? For you, Haley,

1163
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm Hallie who's just like not really discussed. Oh you Messa.

1164
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: I'm just like South African bitch who he meets. Well

1165
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: the thing about her that I love and I just

1166
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: love this. This is actually what gave me so much hope.

1167
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: Is he met her at that like hotel called like

1168
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: the Jeremy or whatever, in the pool our friends and

1169
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: there I'm the most like Bowery boutique hotelity And he

1170
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: kept being like so then we went up to the

1171
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: fourth floor where the pool was, but then we went

1172
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: back down to the second floor where the lounge was,

1173
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: and like this random guy was like, you have to

1174
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: be the corney Melissa, and I was like, I love

1175
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: meeting people in hotels. I love hotels, like yes, so,

1176
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: and I love I've always wanted to be the girl

1177
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: who meets the guy at a hotel. So I did

1178
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: love that idea. Am I her? Like I worry that

1179
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: I'm actually more Finnigan, the daughter who was just kind

1180
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: of annoying during election night and was kept telling like

1181
01:00:55,360 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: Biden how to change his speech. Oh yeah, you to

1182
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: be like you're a mix between actually not Melissa, but

1183
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: Melissa's friends who are like, you need to meet our

1184
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: friend Melissa, and you're buy the pool at but whatever,

1185
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm a Melissa's friend to meet because because the whole

1186
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: thing was like Melissa got dumped, so they I'm being

1187
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: so like, my sad friend just got dumped. You need

1188
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: to have to go out with her, and I'm trying

1189
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: to honor off from this actual crack out of know,

1190
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, you're like she did. It's like a rebound,

1191
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: like Hunter's like hot, Like sorry, it's sexy. Sorry, sorry,

1192
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: you're half that. And then you're also like Finnegan, who's

1193
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: like Grandpa, no, like you're stupid change that line. Wow,

1194
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: Oh well we figured it out. Detectives Lilian Stephen did

1195
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: it again, be Coded Another beautiful memoir twenty two nine.

1196
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: I honestly do give this book four out of five

1197
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: crack pipes. I literally like, I actually like more so

1198
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: and as I said at the top of this episode,

1199
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: like I just felt like there was actual content here.

1200
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: It was like, you actually should have written a memoir,

1201
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: like you have a legitimate enough cause. And I like

1202
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: it was. It moved quickly enough that I was actually

1203
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: just like reading it, likenso wanted to read it. Yeah,

1204
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to read it and like, and I didn't

1205
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: know about something because it's like, oh, I wanted him

1206
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: to talk about fucking his dead brother's wife. I wanted

1207
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: to talk about burismo. Like I wanted to get there,

1208
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: and he got there. I also give this um four

1209
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: out of five chore boys. You'll know if you're you'll

1210
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: know if you're read it. But yeah, that's the thing.

1211
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: It's like I actually had reason to because now I'm

1212
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: adesia total Bellas, U turn off Total Bellas. And I

1213
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: was like, well, because I need to give the chapter

1214
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: about the dead brother's wife. You know. It's like I

1215
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: was right, you're looking forward to things. It rolled along.

1216
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: He kept me interested. I also fully like cried um

1217
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: in the beginning and had to stop reading. I was

1218
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: kind of a puddle at the end, and I was

1219
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: just like because it just had a nice symmetry. I mean, yeah,

1220
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: whoever wrote this book with him plush for him and

1221
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: did a good job. So so grat's do you congrats

1222
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: to whoever the ghostwriters? Well, our next book is Johnny

1223
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: cochrane Layer. I like they were sort of sticking in

1224
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: politics but going down in different because obviously went to

1225
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: law school as well, right, and not quite as accomplished. No,

1226
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Speaker 1: Johnny cochrane Um and his book Journey to Justice. If

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