1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck. 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: I am back. Sorry how to be out yesterday, Well, 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: unexpected illness struck. But we have a lot of news 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: to get to today. Clain and I are excited to 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: be able to talk to you all across the country. 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm an NYC clay in checks in Ville Jacksonville, Florida. 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Or a big game this week and I'll tell you 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: about what's going on there. But speaking of big games, 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Braves getting attention, not just for being in 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: the World Series. We'll talk about it. Clay has a 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: great quote to share with you that East got on 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: what we should think about all that stuff you got. 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: The Virginia governor's race. Now the reality of a possible 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: young Can. I don't want to jinx it, but a 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: possible young Can win starting to become more apparent people 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: across the country based on the polls. But it's ain't 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: over to what's over. A lot of people are saying, yeah, 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: you think it's gonna be an election that has no shoes? 21 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: Buck you think it's gonna be fair. I'm just telling 22 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: you what the polls say. We'll discuss that Virginia's showdown, 23 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: plus Biden's in Europe no doubt, admiring all of the 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: socialism and being told he's a good Catholic by the 25 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: Pope who did not bring up abortion, to which I 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: would say not a good pope. Conversation we could have 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: later perhaps, And then just to give you sense the 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: guests we have today, we have Alison Williams, who lost 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: her job because he refused to get the vaccine as 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: a sports supporter. David Harsani, longtime friend of mine, new 31 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: book out, Eurotrash, about how Europe's not as great as 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: people pretend it is, but it comes to the economy 33 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: and its policies. It's politics. Good time for that because 34 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: Biden is over there, David, it will be joining us 35 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: later on. And also, fellow, I'm pretty sure you're all 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: familiar with third hour of the show. Donald J. Trump, 37 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: the former President of the United States, with some big 38 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: announcements about his new media venture. But first, it's rare 39 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: that we see a story these days about the Biden 40 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: administration that you say, hold on a second, This can't 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: actually be true. But this is one of those moments. 42 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: Given all of the just idiotic decision making around COVID, 43 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: in the economy and countless other areas, we have a 44 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: Biden administration that is failing in real time before all 45 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: of our eyes. So you'd think that we'd be pretty 46 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: prepared for more bad decision making from them. But when 47 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: we hear that they're planning Clay to put four hundred 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars a person for families that were 49 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: separated at the border under the Trump administration, the ACLU 50 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: bringing this lawsuit. The ACLU is working very hard always 51 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: to kick at the load bearing walls of American civilization. 52 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: No interest in free speech, no interest in liberty, just 53 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: wants to collapse America and rebuild with leftist authoritarians running 54 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: the show. But we're actually now Clay looking at the 55 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: possibility of four hundred and fifty thousand dollars a person, 56 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: a million dollars a family for the legal aliens who 57 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: came into the country in violation of our law, did 58 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: so willingly and knowing exactly what they were doing, more 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: per person than we give to the families of those 60 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: who die in combat for the United States military abroad. 61 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: There is a point in which you just wonder, I mean, 62 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: the Biden administration, is it so ideological that has lost 63 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: its mind. It's such a bad idea, Buck, Let's let's 64 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: discuss it. As you just laid out. The raw politics 65 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: of it is insanely stupid. But we're talking about Joe 66 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: Biden already having the worst record at the border in 67 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: terms of American Independent Republican Democrat. Everyone acknowledges that the 68 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: border is a sieve, that it's an unmitigated disaster. And 69 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: if you thought to yourself, how could Joe Biden make 70 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: an already disastrous situation worse? This might well be the answer, because, 71 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: in addition to it just ringing wrong, I would say, 72 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: for frankly, ninety nine percent of Americans, I really do 73 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: believe that when ninety nine percent of Americans here, Wait 74 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: a minute, you're telling me that illegal immigrants who illegally 75 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: crossed into this country knowing that they were unwelcome and 76 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: that they were violating our own law. When we separated 77 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: those families, we're now going to have to be paying 78 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 1: them hundreds of millions of dollars. And we're paying them 79 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: despite the fact that they broke the law, and you 80 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: want to talk all the time about the message that 81 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: the Biden administration is sending, How Buck, do you think 82 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: this kind of payment would be received for anyone who 83 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: was thinking about trying to cross the border. They are 84 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: going to be incentivizing as many children as possible, because 85 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: you know the way the game of telephone works as 86 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: it spreads down through all of these different refugee camps, 87 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: and all the different people that are illegally in Latin 88 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: American want to be in the United States. They already 89 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: think of America as a land of milk and honey, 90 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: which compared to where they are, is accurate and is 91 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: one of the driving reasons why they are coming here. 92 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: But then you add in that they can break the 93 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: law and potentially become millionaires in our country. We've already 94 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: had in October the worst month basically on record at 95 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: the border for crossings ever in most of our lives. 96 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: And now you're going to be this incompetent and give 97 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: even more incentives to anyone considering trying to cross the 98 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: border to think that they might end up millionaires. It's 99 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: so bad if you were trying Buck to come up 100 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: with the worst thing to do at the border. I 101 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: think the Biden administration might have come up with it. 102 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: I think is the worst idea I've ever heard. I 103 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: think it goes beyond, it goes beyond incompetence to maliciousness. 104 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: I think they know what they're doing there. I mean, see, 105 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: this is where we have the big separation of the 106 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: southern border. It used to be that there was at 107 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: least a belief that Democrats and Republicans agreed that we 108 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: should have something of a secure border, that there should 109 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: be a control over who comes and goes, we should 110 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: have sovereignty at our international boundaries. Democrats at least paid 111 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: lip service to that. They pretended that they cared about that. Increasingly, 112 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: what we see is that's obviously not the case. They 113 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: wanted to be a de facto open border. They want 114 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: as many illegal migrants as possible to come into the 115 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: United States. They aren't able because there are still federal 116 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: laws on the books to do so, you know, you 117 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: across the board, but they allow all of these massive 118 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: loopholes and incentives to stay, and they make sure that 119 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: there's really no punishment. If there's no punishment, if there's 120 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: no downside of trying to come into the country illegally. 121 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: You're going to have a lot of people who keep 122 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: trying to come in. They know that, and as long 123 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: as long as the incentive structure is what it is 124 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: under the Biden administration, Clay, we both felt the numbers 125 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: keep getting worse. But by putting these payments out there, 126 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: this is just gross politics. It's meant to be a 127 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: repudiation of the Trump borders securing efforts, right, this is 128 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: meant to be See, we have to pay these families, 129 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: and this is just a decision made by the Biden DOJ. 130 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: This isn't like, you know, there's not some fair minded 131 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: approach to any of this. This is Biden's people saying 132 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna write checks to these families because of all 133 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: the terrible things the Trump administration did to them, because 134 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: this makes it look like, oh, Trump was the evil 135 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: monster when it comes to the border. Meanwhile, Joe Biden 136 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: has set up a situation where you have more people 137 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: than ever being human traffic. The cartels are getting richer 138 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: office human smuggling than ever. We have fentonel flooding into 139 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: the country that is killing people in towns and cities. 140 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: If you're listening this right now. Anywhere in America, there 141 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: are people within a few miles of where you are 142 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: likely who are taking fentonyl that comes across the US 143 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: Mexico border because border patrol is overwhelmed and the cartels 144 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: are richer and more influential they've ever been. I mean, 145 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: this is a disaster, but they won't stop it because 146 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: ideologically the Democrat Party has moved to being an open 147 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: borders party. They think America deserves this. They think we're 148 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: getting what we deserve right now. And that's why I 149 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: think as we get closer to twenty twenty two, and 150 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: as we think about twenty twenty four, the number one 151 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: weakness of Joe Biden is it's the border stupid. And 152 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: this perfectly fits. It's the border stupid because it's the border. 153 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: And guess what, it's stupid what they are doing at 154 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: the border and the incentive structures buck you hit at 155 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: what I think is just a jaw dropping way to 156 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,239 Speaker 1: convey this. I tweeted it out yesterday. We are potentially 157 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: paying illegal immigrants more money then we pay service members 158 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: who give their lives to this country, who are citizens 159 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: and who are fighting and risking their lives every day 160 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: for this nation. The idea that that could be possible 161 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: strikes everyone Democrat, Republican, Independent as not only an awful choice, 162 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:30,359 Speaker 1: but also a pathetic one and an indefensible one. Clay, 163 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: Let's also remember that what we're paying these what we 164 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: would be And when I say we, I mean it 165 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: because it's taxpayer money. Yes, what everyone listeners, We're everybody 166 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: out there, We the American people, to these families of 167 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants in the United States, who willfully broke US law, 168 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: who enriched the cartels in the process, who gained the 169 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: immigration system, jumped to the front of a line, paying 170 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: them for psychological trauma. Look if the US government had 171 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: taken people into custody and someone someone had died because 172 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: of mouthfeasians wherever, you know, that can happen, right, There 173 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: are some there are some basic expectations we have. We're 174 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: paying people because of the trauma of being separated, that 175 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: the US government puts Americans through, trauma of separation. We 176 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: think about what's going on with January sixth, Yeah, I mean, 177 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: what about the families of people that have been held 178 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: in solitary confinement for six or seven months for not 179 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: passing unbelievable what we're seeing happening here. But Clay, you know, 180 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: you said Democrats are opposed this. I think I think 181 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: when you're talking about our centrist Democrats, persuadable democrats, you know, 182 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: saying there are saying Democrats there are some, yes, But 183 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: but I look at the numbers, Buck, when you look 184 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,239 Speaker 1: at the numbers on the border, even the most diehard 185 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: Democrat right now, Biden is so far underwater. I've never 186 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: seen an American politician president who is this far underwater 187 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: on any single issue, even with his own party. He's underwater. 188 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: And here here's the problem though, this what we're talking about, 189 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: the numbers and how and you're right, I mean I 190 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: would guess, and I haven't looked at them recently, maybe 191 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: only twenty or thirty percent of Democrats something like that 192 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: are think Biden's doing a good job at the border. 193 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: There's there's definitely a core group that's like, oh yeah, 194 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: open Biden doesn't matter. What are your thirty percent are 195 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: going to be like, oh, he's doing an incredible job. 196 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: But from an electoral perspective, that's a total mess. I mean, 197 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: that's a disaster. Unless the whole game here is what 198 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: we see with the continued efforts to pass the largest 199 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: amnesty in the history of the United States. And so 200 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: you don't care, Clay right, you don't care about the 201 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: five or ten percent of persuadable Democrats you're losing over 202 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: these immigration policies, because the plan here is to add 203 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty million newly made Americans so to speak, 204 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: you know, giving them citizenship through an immigration amnesty, a 205 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: legal immigration amnasy. That's what they're hoping to accomplish. Maybe 206 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: the real secret of the Joe Biden administration buck is 207 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: he said he was going to bring Americans together. Maybe 208 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: he's bringing Americans together and recognizing how awful he is 209 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: instead of that he's doing a good job. That's what 210 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: he's managing. More. You have more faith in these Democrats 211 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: than I do. You man a lot a lot of 212 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: them are just like, yeah, it's not my problem. And 213 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: also I like the cheap labor. But we'll see. I mean, 214 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: at least the right is fine and independence are furious. 215 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: That is the only saving grace. 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We were 244 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: saying yesterday that Nancy Pelosi was going to try to 245 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: get the infrastructure bill in the House done. She can't. 246 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: Biden is in Europe right now. They wanted to give 247 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: him a victory and at least not embarrass him. Instead, 248 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: they were unable to give him a victory, and I 249 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: think the whole budget process is an embarrassment at this 250 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: point in time. We are weeks I would say, just 251 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: based on the numbers away from some form of resolution there. 252 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: The failure to get the infrastructure bill voted on the 253 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: failure of so far the Biden budget to also be 254 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: implemented has become a bit of an additional weight in 255 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: the Virginia governor's race. If you have not been following this, 256 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: we are going to be I think leading on Monday, 257 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: Tuesday and Wednesday. This is my prediction. Crazy things can happen, 258 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: but I think on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday we are 259 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: going to be focused on this Virginia race and how 260 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: many different directions it could go, all of the messages 261 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: that it is potentially going to be sending. Fox News 262 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: yesterday came out with a poll that showed Glenn Junkin 263 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: up by eight points. Now, I think that is a 264 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: wildly out of whack possibility that he could be up 265 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: eight points. But but the numbers are moving from a 266 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: gambling perspective in the favor of Republicans in a big way. 267 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: All Right. I had dub who works on the show 268 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: with us. You may remember earlier this week he was 269 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: looking at what the odds markets were showing overseas, and 270 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: so you know, you can gamble on political results in 271 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: England at many of the biggest places over there. And 272 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: we told you that Terry mccauliffe was a decent fan, 273 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: decent favorite in that race. Much of his dollar value 274 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: from again ambling perspective is now gone and we are 275 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: moving basically in a gambling perspective, Buck into a dead heat. 276 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,239 Speaker 1: Are you with me that you're a little bit skeptical 277 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: of the eight point lead that the Fox News poll showed. 278 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: That'd be an eighteen point swing since the twenty twenty 279 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: elect I want our Virginia Clan Buck audience to know 280 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: that this will be a razor thin race and you 281 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: better show up and vote. Yes, every single one of you. 282 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: Listen to this right now in Virginia. Do not get complacent. 283 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: Do not think, oh, there's a poll, that's fine, you know, 284 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: oh it's you know, it's deer season. I got other 285 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: things to do. Get out there and make sure you 286 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: vote so that Terry mccalliffe, the slimy Democrat, is not 287 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: the governor of your state. Now, look what Clay saying 288 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: is right. Obviously the numbers and all this are looking 289 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: good right now. I don't care go into this with 290 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: the mentality that their only crushing victory is acceptable. A 291 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: two or three point victory for yunkin not good enough. 292 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: You are, Virginia listeners right now, you have it in 293 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: your hands to send a message for the entire country 294 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: to see about the failure of Democrat policies, about the 295 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: failures of this administration all the way down to the 296 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: state level, because the Democrat Party calls all the shots 297 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: from DC. As we know, Clay, we've got to get 298 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: our we've got to get our people out there. Be 299 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: huge to have a young can win monstrous. I mean 300 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: it would change the American political calculus overnight. If Joe Biden, 301 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: who won Virginia by ten points, if in the first 302 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: year of his administration we saw a ten point swing 303 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: or more in the state of Virginia. If Glenn Young 304 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: Cain wins, there is going to be a five alarm 305 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: fire bell going off right now in the entire Democratic Party. 306 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: I think it's happening already because they're terrified of what 307 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: this lesson might be going forward into the midterms. But Virginia, 308 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: you have in your power an unbelievable opportunity get out 309 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: and vote in a big way for Glenn Junkin. 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That's we worked in Operation 328 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: Warp speed in record time to give the American people 329 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: to testing the tools, the medicines and the vaccines to 330 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: make the best decisions for themselves, their families, their businesses. 331 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: These mandates are wrong and they are driving labor shortages 332 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: that are driving supply chain issues, and they need to stop, 333 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: and they need to stop. Now. Welcome back to Clay 334 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: and Buck show. That was former Vice President Mike Pence 335 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: laying it down of the vaccine mandates. Now, we've been 336 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: discussing and debating as a nation, and certainly here on 337 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: this show for weeks. But keep in mind that some 338 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: of the more major deadlines are just days away now, 339 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: so what was theoretical is about to become very real 340 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: in places like New York City, New York. We have 341 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: a huge New York audience. We're very blessed and thankful 342 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: that you tune into us day in a day out. 343 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm here in New York. I formerly worked for the NYPD, 344 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: so I know the NYPD pretty well, and they are 345 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: now facing what is being described as a potential crush 346 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: of early retirements. I had of the vaccine mandate deadline. 347 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: Here's the latest on this. You have as of right 348 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: now thousands, nine to ten thousand NYPD members according to 349 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: the Detective Endowments Association. He told the Post he expects 350 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: a rise in retirements. This is the New York Post 351 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: of nine to ten thousand NYPD members eligible to retire 352 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: or vest out. If this happens, you are going to see, 353 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: I mean, right away. The fastest things, when you're talking 354 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: about a civil immunicipal workforce, the fastest ways to see 355 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: your cities start to get really messy are not enough cops, 356 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: not enough sanitation firefighters run up there too, obviously, but 357 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: that's usually when you see a big fire and all 358 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden they can't deal with it. But cops 359 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: in sanitation, those are things that you cut back on 360 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: and people feel it. They know it's very real. Clay, 361 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: here's the situation that we're seeing play out across the country. 362 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: We are in the midst of a pandemic, and because 363 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: people will not get a vaccine. And remember, here are 364 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: the problems with the mandate as I see it, without 365 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: even discussing the freedom and authoritarianism aspects of it. They 366 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: do not make exceptions for natural immunity. They are not 367 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: really giving people religious and other exemptions in major cities 368 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: that are controlled by Democrats, so they don't care about 369 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: natural immunity. They know the shot is temporary at best, 370 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: and even in its peak window of protection, it is imperfect. 371 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: And yet here we are seeing in real time the Democrats, 372 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: because this is now a totally political binary issue, Democrat 373 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: and Republican Democrats pushing for the firing of healthcare workers 374 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: during a pandemic, and now the firing of police officers 375 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: who also play a role in the pandemic in the 376 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: sense they're first responders. But we are in an unprecedented, 377 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: once in a century rise in violent crime in the 378 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: United States, and we're about to lose thousands of officers 379 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: from some of our biggest cities. How could this be 380 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: described as anything other than madness. It is madness. And also, again, 381 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: this show, I think uniquely tries to go directly to 382 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: the facts and the data and the studies to support 383 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: the arguments that we're making. And there was a study 384 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: that came out today in the Lancet. So COVID vaccine 385 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: mandates I believe are unconstitutional. I think the idea that 386 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: you should be forced in order to have a job, 387 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: particularly a job that matters as much in terms of 388 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: public safety as the police, as the fire department, as 389 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: many of those jobs do. The idea that you would 390 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: mandate a vaccine, in addition to being unconstitutional, it's anti scientific. 391 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: And let me explain what this study came out from 392 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: the Lancet and said Buck said, people who are vaccinated 393 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: against COVID are just as likely to spread the delta 394 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: variant as unvaccinated individuals are. So in addition to the 395 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: fact Buck right now that we have an unconstitutional in 396 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: my opinion, mandate coming down from the federal government. The data, 397 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: the actual data from scientists, the Lancet kind of a 398 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: a big publication focused on medicine. They have said that 399 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: being vaccinated doesn't make you less likely to spread COVID? 400 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: What is the basis thing? Think about the logic that 401 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: we are applying here. We are demanding that people get 402 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: the COVID vaccine even though it doesn't actually impact the 403 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: likelihood that they are going to spread COVID. So how 404 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: is there a public health mandate that you must be 405 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: vaccinated when the likelihood that you spread COVID to a coworker, 406 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: which is the justification here, is basically the same whether 407 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: you are vaccinated or unvaccinated with the delta area. So 408 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: here's what I think we see happening here, Clay. It's 409 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: a mirror image of what they did with mask mandates 410 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: insofar as in the beginning, and you can go back. 411 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: It was in the Atlantic I remember in the summer 412 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. I think it was maybe June or July. 413 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: I feel like you and I might have even been 414 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: tweeting about the same thing back then. They had they 415 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: had a study. Pardon me, I'm obviously still a little 416 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: a little shaky. They had a study that they said 417 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: showed that masking would reduce by about sixty to seventy 418 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: percent COVID cases. That's what they initially were saying, and 419 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, in the early obviously not even a little 420 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: bit true, right, But then what happens is when they're wrong, 421 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: they keep saying something is better than nothing, something is 422 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: better than nothing. But they used the initial promise of 423 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: an extremely high rate of protection, the initial promise of no, 424 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: this is going to be amazing. If you don't see 425 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: it that way, you're a troglodyte, in order to get 426 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: people to start doing this thing. And then when we 427 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: see it doesn't work as well as they said it would, 428 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: they say, well, it's better than nothing, isn't it. This 429 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: guy to the point Clay where that study I think 430 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 1: was in Bangladesh, that huge mask study where it was 431 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: supposed to be you know, I think it was even 432 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: surgical masks, not even just the sort of standard cloth 433 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: masks they looked at. They said, well maybe it was 434 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: a three percent reduction in cases three percent, And people 435 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: were saying, oh see, masks were What they're doing now 436 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: with vaccines is very similar. They told us it was 437 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: ninety five percent. They told us it was one and done. 438 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: You're not going to spread it not true. But now 439 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: to what you just said in the Lancet, which is 440 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 1: one of the most famous medical journals in the world. 441 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: So it's not you know, this isn't like right wing 442 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: vax truth or dot Moor slash net right. This is 443 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: the Lancet. What they'll say is, yes, but you're less 444 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: likely to have that breakthrough infection. So even if you're 445 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: as likely to spread it if you get it, because 446 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: you're slightly less likely to get it, therefore you're less 447 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: likely to spread it. Therefore you still should have to 448 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: suffer through the mandate. They keep moving the goalposts and 449 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: we're all getting dizzy from it. Not only that you 450 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: mentioned the mask bandate. Remember how far behind Biden was 451 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: in the science that when he took office he said, remember, 452 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: if we just wear masks for one hundred days COVID, 453 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: it'll go away. That's what he told the nation. It 454 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: was one hundred percent of why anybody who looked at 455 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: the data knew it was a lie. Either Biden is 456 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: too dumb to actually know what the truth is and 457 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: or two. I think there's an element there. I don't 458 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: think this is some diabolical plot by him. I think 459 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: he's being led by people who are smarter than he 460 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: is and are unwilling to acknowledge the falsities that they 461 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: have been propagating even as the data continues to change. 462 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: Can we come back and give some good news on 463 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: the COVID fight front, though, Kirsty of the Governor of Florida, 464 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: Mister Rohnda santists, and then we've got I'm excited for 465 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: Clay to tea off on the latest because I asked, 466 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,239 Speaker 1: I said, am I allowed to say? Remember? I think 467 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: it was last week? I was like, am I allowed 468 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: to say? Atlanta braves on? 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The oasis of freedom is around to 506 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: Santis calls it, and ironically, Buck, if you look at 507 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: the data we were just talking about the data from 508 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: the lancet on vaccinated versus unvaccinated spread of COVID. If 509 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: you look at the data, and I tweeted this out. 510 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: If there's people out there who you have friends and family, 511 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: I know as we move closer to Halloween and the 512 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: holidays for Thanksgiving and Christmas, that there are many people 513 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: that will be surrounded by some who might disagree with them. 514 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: And I would tell them, Hey, you can spread the 515 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: gospel of Clay and Buck. You can say, Look, you 516 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: may not agree with everything these guys say, but their 517 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: facts are going to be pretty right. You might disagree 518 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: sometimes with the opinion, but you should check them out. 519 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: You should listen. We welcome everyone. It's a big tent 520 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: on this radio program that Russia left us, the biggest 521 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: radio program anywhere in the country. And the data right now, 522 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: and I'm reading for the New York Times. Did you know, 523 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: probably you didn't, that Florida has the lowest rate of 524 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: COVID per capita of any state in the entire United States, 525 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: and that Florida is less than half the COVID rate 526 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: of New York. We've been talking about the vaccine mandates 527 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: that are being put in place, and also less than 528 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: half the rate of California. That is stunning, I think 529 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 1: too many people. I mean, it's obviously because Governor da 530 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: Santists put in place those really extreme vaccine mandates and 531 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: mask mandates. And oh wait, he did none of that. 532 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: He was used to bend the knee and do these 533 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: things that they said would be necessary to bring down 534 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,959 Speaker 1: Florida's caseload all summer while you and I were saying 535 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: we've seen this before. It is seasonal, just like so 536 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: many other viruses, It will move through Florida and it 537 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: will move north. And that is currently what it is doing. 538 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: But Governor De Santis is also pointing out Clay that 539 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: there are going to be a lot of long term 540 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: implications for this when it comes to people's relationship with 541 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: the health bureaucracy and how they view just the general 542 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: public health advice. Where, for example, because of how much 543 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 1: there's been a politicization of vaccines for kids with COVID, right, 544 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: you and I see them talk about measles stable does 545 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: not mutate and a thousand times statistically more dangerous to 546 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: children than COVID. But people keep comparing these things and 547 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 1: acting like it's a saying, meanwhile, you got a one 548 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: in a million shot from in terms of kids actually 549 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: dying when they get COVID. Here's De Santas saying, this 550 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: is going to change the discussion about vaccines for kids 551 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. I'm really concerned about how 552 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: this is going to impact other vaccines, for example, the 553 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: normal vaccines that kids take, My kids take, most of 554 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: your kids, I'm sure do I guarantee you you are 555 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: going to see a decline in that because I think 556 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: you're creating a lot of distrust. I think you're creating 557 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people who are looking at these people 558 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: that have been on TV for a year and a 559 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: half and they ain't told the truth. It's right. I 560 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: think he's right, and I think it's unfortunate. COVID has 561 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: been disastrous for our trust going forward in public health 562 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: officials because they have told us so many falsehoods for 563 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: eighteen months, because they have been dishonest with us, and 564 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: because they have very rarely, if ever, leveled with the 565 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: American public and let them know what was likely to 566 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: happen and where we were headed. And I think that 567 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: distrust is going to take decades to rebuild, if ever. 568 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: And the body blow that science itself has taken as 569 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: the argument would be that science is not political, right, 570 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: I mean that would that's the strong argument that we 571 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: should follow the truth wherever it goes. When you tell 572 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: me that it's safe when everybody else is locked down, 573 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: that I can have a BLM protest, and when you 574 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: tell me that there are something other than boys and 575 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: girls in this world, I'm sorry, I buy an into 576 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: modern day science. Clay, imagine if your doctor told you 577 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: you need to take this antibiotic or you'll die, and 578 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: then after you took it for ten days or whatever 579 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: it was, he said I mean, you weren't actually gonna die, 580 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: but I just thought it might make you feel a 581 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: little bit better faster, so I told you die. Would 582 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: you trust that doctor again? Of course not. Doctor Fauci admittedly, 583 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: buy his own words, lied to the American people about 584 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: what he now. It's what's amazing is he's actually lying 585 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: about lying, which goes he've been crazier, but admits that 586 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 1: he lied about mask effectiveness so that he could then 587 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 1: protect a supply of mask for the people that really 588 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: needed them or whatever. I mean. Look, don't trust Fauci 589 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: when it comes to science. Definitely, don't let him near 590 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: your puppy. This is a guy that nobody should be 591 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: trusting or listening to anymore, and yet the Left still 592 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: props him up as the high priest of Fauciism. It's absurd. 593 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: It's because so many people are so invested in the 594 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: choices that they made that they won't continue to look 595 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: at the data and adjust based on those choices. This 596 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: is not about science in any way. It's about being 597 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: right and refusing to admit when you were wrong. One 598 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: thing we tried to do buck if there were an 599 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: incredible study that came out that The next couple of 600 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: studies came out and they showed, I don't know that 601 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: the Johnson Johnson vaccine was way more effective than Maderna 602 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: or Fizer. We would come on and say, hey, this 603 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: is a really interesting study. Maybe we need to adjust 604 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: our opinion. I mean, maybe some of us Spirit Airlines 605 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 1: yea vaccine, Maybe some of us had a feeling clay, 606 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: the Spirit Airlines log term would be a better play 607 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: than your fancy Delta and United vaccine, so to speak. Look, 608 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, man. You know, I just spoke 609 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 1: to my family, my parents, earlier this week. They're they're 610 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: both already they're both already scheduled for their boosters. Yeah, 611 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 1: mine got theirs. Yeah, I mean they're getting their boosters, 612 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: and I'm like, go for it. And we've already talked about, 613 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, if one parent, one of my parents gets COVID, 614 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna try to separate them out and I'm gonna 615 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: set one of them up so they don't have to 616 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: be because home spread is such a concern. I take 617 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: this very seriously. You take this very seriously. Based on 618 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: what is real, not based on what you can't control, 619 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: not based on hysteria and absurdity. And this is why 620 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: I mean to call people anti vax because they have 621 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: these very real concerns, they're actually rooted in a more 622 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: fulsome understanding, a more honest understanding of not just the data, 623 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: but of human reality day to day. Clay, I can't 624 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: tell you how many people stand in the elevator where 625 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: I let. This happened this morning to me. Three people. 626 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: I get on the elevator. All of them have masks 627 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: down around their chins. I get on, they pull their 628 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,919 Speaker 1: masks off. Oh gee, I feel so much safer now. Well, 629 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been traveling all over the country all fall. Right. 630 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm down in Florida, I was in Texas earlier this week. 631 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: I'll be back down in Alabama next week. And I 632 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: gotta say, the way we win is by embracing normalcy 633 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: in our lives. And one thing to do that's normal 634 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: is stand up for what you believe in. That's what 635 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: Alison Williams at ESPN did. She refused the company's vaccine 636 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: mandate and decided to make her own intelligent decision. She 637 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: opposes a vaccine mandate. She's going to talk about that 638 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: lifestyle choice next with us. 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