WEBVTT - Downer 70s Ending Entourage with Jack O'Brien 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:10.799 It's two twenty a m. In the Shallow and you're 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:31.600 listening Tonight Call. Hello, and welcome to Night Call, a 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:35.519 podcast where your strange days and lonely nights. My name 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.120 is Emily Chida. I am in New York with a 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.040 kind of frock in my throat. I'm sorry, everybody. And 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.840 on the other line in Los Angeles, we have Molly 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.640 Lambert on the Frog and joining me is Test Lynch. 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:52.040 I'm not a reptile or amphibian. And also today we 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:56.760 have a special guest, Jack O'Brien. Hi, thanks for having me. Guys. 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:58.520 I'm excited to be here. I'm a big fan of 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:02.240 the show, and I was saying before we started recording, 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:05.679 super intimidated by last week's guest because I have not 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:10.640 seen any ghosts, let alone like thirty Richard Rushfield has 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:14.000 definitely out ghosted everyone here. But Jack is the co 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.040 host of the wonderful daily Zeitgeist on How Stuff Works. 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.039 It's a daily podcast that really you guys talk about 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.520 pretty much everything. We try to cover it all and 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:24.320 it's really awesome. Molly and I were lucky enough to 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:26.520 guest a little while ago, so we were very thrilled 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.399 to have Jack here to very excited that Jack is 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:34.520 here for our Star is Born special. Wait, I asked 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.280 a question, Jack, how do you do a daily podcast? 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.400 Because I feel like it's I mean, it just seems 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:45.360 like such an amazing feat to do it logistically. Yeah, 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.919 we we were both came in this morning talking about 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:51.640 like what we did for self care over the weekend 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:56.520 because last week was brutal. Yeah, I saw a Star 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.920 is Born for my self care, and I feel like 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:04.360 a lot of people's Yeah, yeah, exactly. My co host 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.600 ate a bunch of horrible food. So what kind of 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.920 horrible food? Because we do talk about that on the podcast. 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:11.800 It's like, you know, we have it. We are not 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.560 supposed to talk about the horrible food though, Okay, we got, 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.400 we got, we gotta okay, But that was that was 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:23.280 specifically about one condiment. We did a deep into that 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:28.080 condiment on our show as well. Yeah, now we're talking 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:32.200 about just that condiment. I just want to know what 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:34.560 Jack and Miles think. We more did a deep dive 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.680 on the article that brought it to everyone's attention, just 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:40.400 did a close reading and tried to kind of get 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:44.840 get a feel for the author and her intentions. Jack 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:54.640 I'm in between or I am situational, Emily, you know, 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.280 speaking of all the real news. Um, Emily, you went 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:00.760 to d C this weekend. I did. I made a 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.760 very spur of the moment decision to go to d 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:07.880 C um after seeing Stars Born, after having my self 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:12.720 care on Friday, and uh, I had some frequent Flyer 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.120 miles to burn, and you know, I don't have no 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.400 I'm not saving up for anything in particular. So I 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.520 was like, what are these four if not to go 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:27.280 um be physically present at politically at a moment of 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:31.000 despair and heartbreak. So that's what I did. I went 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:34.680 to d C by myself and basically just for the day. 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.480 I had a return flight for the next day. And 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.960 then I was so exhausted by like six o'clock or 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.280 whenever they were actually swearing him in that I kind 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.560 of was like, I can't. I can then I'll sticking 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.960 around here. I gotta get out of Dodge um. And 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:54.480 that's like also like even just walking from the Supreme 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:58.280 Court to the train station to get the amtrack back, like, 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:05.000 I started to see like parties, like celebratory parties happening, 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:09.360 and I was like, nope, nope, no, I'm getting out 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.839 of here. Um. But I got there. I got in it. Like. Um, 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.760 I actually got to the Supreme Court where they were 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.640 doing this sort of like people's filibuster thing where um, 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.120 kind of the crowd was gathering and they had a 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.200 megaphone and they were just like letting people take their 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.360 turns tell their's survival stories or you know, like any 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:31.240 story basically about not being listened to or her as 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:35.320 women or as trans women, or as like literally anybody 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:39.279 and um. And that started in the morning, and then 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.520 once they were taking the vote, everybody went over to 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:45.039 the Capital. A bunch of people got arrested for like 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:51.080 going on the steps. Um. I did not get arrested. Um. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.719 I I made the calculation in my mind that it 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.440 was not worth it that time to get arrested. I 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.120 heard later, I'm not sure if this is true or 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:00.640 not that I heard a rumor the people who were 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:05.599 arrested wouldn't be released until Tuesday because Monday is a holiday. Yes, 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.240 I heard that also. That was that was that was 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:10.760 what the word was around there. I mean it was 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.560 it was pretty crazy. I mean I didn't go up 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:15.440 on the steps of the Capitol building because I went 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.360 to go get food because I was very hungry at 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:19.880 that point. Um. But when I came back, everybody was 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:22.000 kind of they brought like a tour bus, like the 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.719 police had a like a tour like a coach bus 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.520 for bringing away like taking the people who got arrested away. 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:31.479 It was like a hundred and fifty people or something 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:36.560 got arrested. Um. It was nuts. Uh. And then you 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.720 you came home and drowned your sorrows and the stars 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:42.000 point before I know, before I was like, yeah I did. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.719 On Friday night, I saw it again, uh and it 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.160 was great. Um. I love Stars Born. We'll get into 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.880 it a second. And I was also like, okay, I 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.680 did my escapism like Friday evening. Now I've got to 0:05:55.720 --> 0:06:01.000 go because I just anticipated sitting around in my apartment 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.120 on Saturday when they confirm him and just feeling like 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:08.240 so useless and miserable and so in many ways, it 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.600 was a self decision to go to wash think. So 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.040 I was just like, if I'm at home, I'm just 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.960 gonna just start start pounding the wine. And that's like 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.360 the most oppressing thing I can think of right now. 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:24.240 So um, I'd rather be there. Um and like around 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:28.320 people who were genuinely pretty inspiring. Like there's a woman 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:30.480 there is from Planned Parenthood who was sort of like 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.360 she was kind of the person who was telling us 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:36.279 what was happening as it was happening inside the Capital 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.080 Building and inside the sure and Corps, like as he 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.120 was getting confirmed in everything, and you know, being super 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.920 real with everybody, but also like just so determined about 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.160 like this is not over, like we're going to keep 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.800 fighting every step in the of the way for everything. 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.360 And it was just like I was, I was very 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.240 grateful to be around that and all the very real 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.720 emotion that was going on there instead of like in 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:03.400 my Brooklyn apart crying being sad about I mean I 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.719 was crying there too, but you were crying about Bradley 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:11.840 Cooper there. 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I don't want to live 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.760 in a bubble, or do I. It should be said 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.280 that this company has been good to me overall. I'm 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.360 not leaving because I'm uncomfortable. More, I'm looking to try 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.880 something new, and it's something I'm thinking about going forward. Also, 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.319 for a brief time in America, hippos were going to 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.360 be the answer to our food shortage. Happy night, call, 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:33.080 oh Jack, what do you think? Um? Yeah, I think 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.520 a lot about bubbles living in Los Angeles, And I 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.959 mean I I do think that there's some value to 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:44.760 being around like minded people because then you can, you know, 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:50.760 motivate others and kind of motivate collective action and together 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:56.200 motivate Taylor Swift to come out and join join the resistance. Uh, 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.920 but I don't know, it's it's so tough if you're 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.520 if you if you have to feed a family or 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:07.839 just feed yourself, and you're you know, having having to 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.640 each ship on a daily basis from like somebody who 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:16.720 just is you find soul withering to your very core. 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:23.400 Like I've been in that position, and it's pretty terrible, 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:27.160 and I consider it pure luck that I got out 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:30.920 of that situation. I didn't like take a stand and 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.559 you know, storm out of the office or anything. So 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.439 I think it's good that he's asking the question, I guess, 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.880 and I encourage him to continue to ask it. Well, 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:45.040 it sounds like that he or she has an opportunity 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.880 to to get go somewhere else, Like it sounds like 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.040 the decision to go to another job is already kind 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.959 of taking place. And they're like, and if that's the case, 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.320 if you are able to get into another job where 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:04.160 you're not riching people whose values do you hate, then like, definitely, 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.120 by all means, get out of there. It's like, obviously 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.040 very real that sometimes the job you have is not 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.719 is not one where you are sharing space with the 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.000 best people in the world. But and you know, you've 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:17.679 got to look after yourself sometimes I understand that, but 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.080 like if you have the opportunity to get out absolutely 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.720 like although workplaces where you can talk about rap beefs 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:30.839 are overrated, Uh, well yeah, I definitely think that you 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.880 would if you can finess the segue between jobs where 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.720 there's no dead time, where you're not risking being unemployed, 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.199 if you leave, um, then personally I would do that. 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.719 But also I think the question also becomes like how 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:48.320 how conservative are these guys? Um? For me, I think recently, 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.320 you know, it's very easy to like, if someone disagrees 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.920 with you at all, just feel very allergic to them, um, 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.880 And I definitely have that. But I also I mean, 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:04.720 or if they're truly horrible, like white supremacists, then maybe leave, 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.760 I mean regardless of what I personally couldn't keep going 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:10.800 in that kind of atmosphere. And so it's I think 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.400 it's a question of like, are they kind of clueless 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:18.120 like never Trumper, kind of like people that sort of 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:22.960 suck but aren't like actual racist, horrible people, or are 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.280 they actually like fascists. Well, they sound a little racist 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:30.360 if they think rap has no value, But I'm also 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.200 like they could be like five years old, right, I mean, 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.680 I guess it's like if you need a job, You're 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.560 probably going to have to work with some people who 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.200 you don't like or agree with, because that's what happening 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:44.120 a job is. But if you can get a different 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:47.120 job where you don't have to do that, maybe go 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.880 for it. It sounds like you don't love this job 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:54.360 or anything, and it seems more like the issue for 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.560 me at least issue would be more am I helping 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:01.840 enriched people who suck? Then? Like, is my own tolerance 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.599 for being around rhetoric being challenged? Because that's going to 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.199 be life for a long time. You're gonna be around 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.719 people whose views you hate. But if you're if you're 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:15.480 making people more rich so that they can screw over 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:19.720 other people and vote and give their money to uh 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:24.080 candidates whose values you disagree with them, maybe uh yeah, 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.680 that's another thing to measure for that point. Do you 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.680 think that people have like a like a moral obligation 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:34.640 to try and educate other people about ignorance? Yes? Oh god? 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:36.560 Or do you think it's too difficult if that person 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:38.400 is like your boss and you can't tell them they're 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.360 being an idiot? There are subtle ways to do it, 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.720 I think, even if it's just by refusing to agree 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:45.760 just to be polite. I mean, I think that that 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.680 that's something that you can do without endangering your job. 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:52.720 Do you not think so? I don't know. This weekend, 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:56.720 I got so exhausted, like overhearing people trying to like calmly, 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.480 you know, argue their cases to the mo of people 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.160 who were there's counter protesters, and it like it was 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:07.160 like so exhausting. I had to leave the earshot of 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.840 this conversation just because it was bumming me out so much, 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.000 because it's just like it's just like running up against 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:16.000 the wall over again, and it's really depressing. Like you 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:20.640 wish that, like, you know, rational conversation could win out, 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.000 but I don't know. Well, it's like when they start 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.880 making me feel crazy, which happens a lot, because it's 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.760 like they'll assume like a faux rational kind of like well, 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.320 you know, you have your opinion and I have one, 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.720 and it's like, yeah, but your opinion is like women 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:37.240 aren't people, so we can't like civil have a civil 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:41.480 disagreement about this. Yeah. I feel like the those types 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.200 of people are those types of opinions are getting to 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:48.560 the point that they're so bad that it's almost indefensible. 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.960 So I mean, just making them defend it out loud 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.840 at the very least, we'll give you some peace of 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.720 mind that okay, well I did what I could, or 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:02.400 you know, you start to come station that eventually makes 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:06.560 you feel better about where you work, but actually addressing it, 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.760 it seems like more and more just kind of being 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:16.240 passive doesn't really work anymore. And that, yeah, I don't 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:20.200 know that the selfishness you were talking about Emily about 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:24.600 like going down there because you felt like you wouldn't 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.720 like the feeling of staying around is still That's the 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.400 sort of selfishness that I feel like saves the species 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:37.800 rather than destroys it. Be that kind of selfish and 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:40.960 I hope that this is helpful for it sounds like 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:45.280 a un fun situation. Quick question though, based on the end. 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:47.440 If we were in a horrible food shortage and the 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:51.680 only answer we're eating hippos, where do you guys fall 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.480 I've never tried it, but sure I wonder where it 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.840 like I would go veget Harry and probably first. But 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.120 it's cool. But what if we need to eat all 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:07.800 the hippos to deal with the ramp? Yeah? Sure, okay, yeah, 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.480 we got to do something with it. I heard about 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:12.520 jellyfish to jellyfish are going to be the big food 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.000 source because there are so many of them, How do 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:19.280 they have any good nights? I like that. We both 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.320 think that way. We We're like, well, if you're dieting, 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.120 then they've got calories in them. They're probably like those 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:31.000 weird cellulose noodles. Dry them out and pound them down. 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:35.800 What was called something like that, Jerry Tak Yeah, there 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:38.080 we go, There we go, jellyfish noodles, Wave of the future. 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.280 Today's episode of Nightcall is brought to you by fab 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:56.320 fit Fun. 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We 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.280 all saw Stars Born. Emily saw it first at a 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:01.560 film festival, and then we all saw it when it 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:05.200 came out in theaters. Um and Emily also proposed that 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.920 we should watch all the versions, and so some of 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.720 us did take her up on that ride. I didn't 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.200 even succeed in that they're all on films track. We 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.639 we almost succeeded. I did them all except the q 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:20.240 Car because I've seen that one before. Um, Emily did 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:23.720 the q cor but not the seventies one, and yeah, 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:25.840 I haven't seen that one. I just saw the William 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:29.000 Wellman one. And yeah, Jack, how many Stars Born have 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:32.720 you seen? Unfortunately, just the one. Did you know anything 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:36.920 about the movie going in? I did. I had kind 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:41.480 of read up. The trailer has been in heavy rotation 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:45.240 in the daily Zeyegeist offices UM to the point that 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:50.159 when the song The Shadows actually came up, it was 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:54.639 like this weird existential experience because I was hearing the 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.000 full song for like the third time in my life, 0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:01.920 but I was hearing that clip for the fifty and 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:03.800 so I was like, wait where it almost felt like 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:07.840 it was like clipped out and just like paste it in. Um. 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:11.680 But that scene was amazing. It was I can I 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.320 create a safe space for us to talk about the 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:17.679 movie and just let people know that there maybe spoilers ahead, 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.840 spoilers ahead, I can't talk about the movie without spoiling 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:24.679 Teslas to create a safe space for people who did 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.840 not like the music in the movie whatsoever. It honestly 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:30.040 is a space that is just intended to hold myself 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:33.840 because I know I'm the only person who feels this way. 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:36.600 But I felt that way. I mean, honestly, I felt 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:38.880 that way. Why I convinced my husband to feel that way? 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:41.119 After working on him for really, I was like, you know, 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:43.280 you didn't really like it. Why did you do that 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.520 to me? Though? Why did you do that to me? 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:53.159 It made me like fringe, It made me I don't know, 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:55.680 It's like, it's it's hard because I'm like everyone else 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:58.119 is feeling things right now and I'm just not. And 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:00.920 the only moment that made me feel some thing very 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:05.560 deeply in that film spoiler spoiler was when he wet 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:10.280 his pants at the Grammy and I got down in 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:12.600 my seat, I like hunkered down, and I didn't know 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:14.680 like I was going to cross. I was just very 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:17.120 I was like really disturbed. And it was a good, 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:19.919 good scenes funny because like having watched all the other versions, 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.840 like I knew that was coming, and yet when it happened, 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.160 when they got up to like, oh, I was like, Oh, 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:26.960 she's going to win the Grammy. And then he's going 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:29.000 to get on speed on stage and make the speech 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.879 because that's what happens in every version. Um. And then 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:34.320 when he wasn't talking, he just kind of stood there. 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:36.879 I was like started falling asleep. He's going to piss himself. 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:41.280 You knew, you knew? I didn't know, Yes, I did. 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:45.840 There's there's a lot of foreshadowing in that movie. There's 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.879 there's a there's an actual shot he drink like a 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:51.359 whole bottle of water before he went on, you know, 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:53.600 she said as he sits down, He's like, I was 0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:56.000 trying to go to the bathroom, but somebody like rushed 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:59.040 me down to this seat. I didn't know that. Yeah, 0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:01.440 he was like they pulled me out of the bathroom 0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:06.920 or something. Shadowing. Molly, how does that play out in 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:10.359 the other versions, like what's that scene? Like in every version, 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:14.480 it's that she finally gets like, you know, she's becoming 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:17.639 a star, and she went toward her career the award 0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:20.959 of her career and he's won it before and then 0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:23.879