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Speaker 1: hosted Behind the Bastards, And as you can guess from

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Speaker 1: that exciting type filled introduction, we're gonna be talking about

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Speaker 1: bleach today. That was that was better than my bleach

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Speaker 1: intro that I just said? That was better? Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: nobody knows what TikTok is? Do you like to talk videos?

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Speaker 1: I send you so I claim to like them. Um,

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Speaker 1: for politeness's sake and also for politeness's sake, let me

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Speaker 1: introduce my guest for today, the only person I could

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Speaker 1: have on to discuss the Bleach Church, Mr Billy White Davis.

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Speaker 1: It is it is so good to be here in

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Speaker 1: such terrible circumstances. Again, terrible circumstances. How are your circumstances doing, Billy,

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Speaker 1: other than terrible? They're I mean, I can't complain about

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Speaker 1: mixed bags. So, speaking of mixed bags, were you did

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Speaker 1: you did you get on the news at all last week.

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Speaker 1: know what was going down to ye. Yeah, so catch

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Speaker 1: everybody up. About a year or so ago, um, you,

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Speaker 1: Genesis to Church and its founder, a fellow named Reverend

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Speaker 1: Jim Humble, and the Genesis to churchs has a sacrament

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Speaker 1: that I, as far as I know, is unique in

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Speaker 1: child abuse. But that's what we talked about. It was

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Speaker 1: fun of it, like this is just the most obscure

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Speaker 1: Much like if you if you drop bleach on your

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Speaker 1: It does not appear to be abating anytime soon. And

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Speaker 1: the Bleach Church. Another Trump fan who saw his words

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Speaker 1: as an endorsement of drinking bleach was Jordan's Safer, A

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Speaker 1: freaking cheap and easy it would be to mass produce

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Speaker 1: Yeah you could. You could wipe out COVID nineteen with

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Speaker 1: Jordan's say now Twitter removed that message that Jordan's Savior

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a ton of proof that it works. No,

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Speaker 1: her proof that it works is that shooting bleach into

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00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: kids and making them drink bleach destroys their intestinal lining

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Speaker 1: and makes them ship out bits of their intestines that

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Speaker 1: kind of look like little bitty worms, which she claims

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Speaker 1: are parasites being cleared from the body. So she's not

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00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: great billy, No, nope, nope, And like any good grifter,

432
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: as soon as this pandemic hit, she realized that it

433
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Speaker 1: was going to be like a big money maker for her.

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Speaker 1: On February five, yeah, of course she did. She is

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Speaker 1: a good Yeah. On February five, she published a blog

436
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: post titled good news coronavirus destroyed by chlorine dioxide um

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00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,959
Speaker 1: and her source for this was a study published by

438
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: the National Institutes of Health. Now, all the study states

439
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: is that coronavirus in wastewater can be inactivated by high

440
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: enough doses of bleach. So basically, studies like yeah, if

441
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: there's coronavirus in like a bunch of dirty water, and

442
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: you pour bleach in it, the coronavirus will die. So

443
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: that's what the studies said. Yeah, exactly, Yes, yeah, yeah

444
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Speaker 1: I could, I could. I could make claims about the

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Speaker 1: ability of my a R fifteen to cure coronavirus in

446
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: much the same way, and it would be equally useless.

447
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: And in terms of medical advice. Um, now here's how

448
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: Carrie interpreted that quote. The article suggests chlorine dioxide is

449
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: a percent effective in killing coronavirus. We already know CD

450
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: Chlorine dioxide is safe for ingestion by people and has

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00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: been used for helping the body heal from any number

452
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Speaker 1: of health conditions, including autism, malaria, herpes, and aids. All

453
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: similar illnesses there all have the same cause. If you

454
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: can get that's a man. I know if I know

455
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: some friends of mine that it would have gotten that

456
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: herpes information at the right time, would have dranken bleach

457
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's probably true. Now, Billy, Uh,

458
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: this actually happened today a as we record this episode.

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Speaker 1: But Carrie very recently published a note to her telegram group,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about her telegram groups. Uh.

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00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: Referencing directly President Trump's disinfectant comments, she stated, our time

462
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: has come. Why has it been vilified by the media.

463
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: Why is it that they don't want us to know?

464
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: Would it destroy big farmer's profits since it's an abundant

465
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Speaker 1: mineral um, And basically she claimed that like yeah, in essence, yes,

466
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: yes it will. If everyone's dead, it will destroy their profits. Yeah,

467
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: she was right about that. Yeah, yeah, um. And it's yeah,

468
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: it's it's cool. So she sees this as a major

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00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: opportunity to all of the bleach people. Like, two things

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00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: are true. Number one, it's very unlikely that Trump was

471
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: directly reaching out to the bleach church, which is again

472
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: fairly small in terms of actual numbers. It would make

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00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: no sense for him to reach out to these people. Um.

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00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: And there's no evidence he even those they exist. Um.

475
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: But at the same time, all of his very very

476
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: recklessly irresponsible comments were taken as an endorsement by everyone

477
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: who drinks bleach. Um. So both of those things can

478
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: be true, but it's important to be correct about like

479
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: what is actually going down here now. Carrie Rivera was

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00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: barred from selling drinking bleach in Illinois in two thousand fifteen.

481
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: But she still absolutely makes a living selling chlorine dioxide.

482
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: She's just developed a way to do that without technically

483
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: selling the bleach directly. Instead, she advises people on how

484
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: to drink bleach. UM. And we'll talk about her more

485
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: in just a bit. Carrie is heavily affiliated with Jim

486
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: Humble in the Genesis to Church and if you want

487
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: to see the church is something like an MLM, like

488
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: a pyramid scheme, a multiple level marketing company carry Rivera

489
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: would be one of those, like rare distributors and like

490
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: the top one person who actually makes money UM. And

491
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: I think that is kind of a good way to

492
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: view this because it does seem to be sort of

493
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: like a pyramid scam. Now, Carrier he felt, yes, you

494
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 1: know what's not like a pyramid scam is exactly like

495
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: a scam. You can't guarantee you that who's advertising it

496
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: is not a pyramid scheme. You can because we accidentally

497
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: did advertise for a pyramid scheme once and we apologize

498
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah. And also the Raython, I mean, I

499
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: do want to say if you want to become a

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00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: Raytheon distributor, UM, there's actually, like, do you know any

501
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: small sub Saharan African nations that don't currently have a

502
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: way to put down uprisings by mine workers through aerial bombardment,

503
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: because ray Theon can help and you can help sell

504
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: those products. So my dad I told my dad. I

505
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: was like, listen, these are bridges I can burn, and

506
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: he was like, not always right. He turns out he

507
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: was right. Yeah, don't don't burn the bridge. Blow it

508
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: up with a hellfire missile from sevents up in the

509
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: air on the back of a Predator drone, and you

510
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: can get a fifteen percent commission on all of the

511
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: predator drones that you sell to state and non state actors.

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00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: You want to sell to isis you know you want

513
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: to sell to uh hts, you want to sell to

514
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: the I RA. It doesn't matter. Once you're a Raytheon distributor,

515
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: you can sell to anyone because Raytheon's motto is we

516
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: don't have lines anyway, we have boomed. So go to

517
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: Raytheon distributor sales dot org backslash. I think they find

518
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: if we're being honest, Yeah, yeah, yeah, just put a

519
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: sign up in front of your house that says I

520
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: want to sell drones and they'll they'll get here's our

521
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: other products. We're back, so Billy, we're talking about bleach.

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00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: We're talking about Carrie Rivera, the Bleach Church, all these

523
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: sales people, um. And again they all even before President

524
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: Trump made his statements, like they took that as like

525
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: a major endorsement of their their worldview, which is again

526
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: entirely based around the fact that bleach cures all illnesses, um,

527
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: which should should be sillier. But it's not. Um, it's

528
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: what's where, there's what we're living in that. Yeah, Trump

529
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: gave these folks a big old shot in the arm,

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00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: But they were going hard on the bleach before, like

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00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: as soon as the COVID nineteen pandemic started, And in fact,

532
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 1: they did so well at convincing people that that drinking

533
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: bleach was a cure for the coronavirus that two weeks ago,

534
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: the US government sued the Genesis to Church for violating

535
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetics Act UH. They led

536
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: that the church's website quote contains claims that MMS is

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00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: intended to cure, mitigate, treat, or permit coronavirus, which includes

538
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, and links to testimonials claiming that MMS. Here's

539
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: a litany of other diseases, including, among others, Alzheimer's autism,

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00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: brain cancer, HIV, AIDS, and multiple sclerosis. And part of

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00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: what's going on there is really interesting. So the founder,

542
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: Jim Humble, said a number of times that that that

543
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: drinking bleach was a cure um, and then had to

544
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: come out and backtrack some of his statements and be like, no, no, no, no,

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00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't saying it was a cure. It allows the

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00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: body to heal itself, but it doesn't cure anything. Because

547
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: he started to get a lot of regulatory attention and

548
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: he has kind of faded into the background of the

549
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: bleach drinking scene. He's turned into like like they they

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00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: still talk about him a lot, but I don't see

551
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: much from him directly. Mark Grinnan is really the main face.

552
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: And Mark Grinnan has completely ignored the what I would

553
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: call the wisdom of his his his his elder and

554
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: is just sort of just straight up saying, yeah, this

555
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: ship cures whatever you have. UM. So is Carrie Rivera.

556
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: So are are all of the Grifters who are kind

557
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: of most active today. Um. And this is again part

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00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: of why I don't think that Trump was signaling to

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00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: the bleached people, in particular because his f DA has

560
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: been pretty on point about going after the bleach church

561
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: since COVID nineteen hit. I'm gonna quote from coverage in

562
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: The Independent now. On Friday, the government's request for a

563
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: temporary injunction against Genesis was granted by Judge Kathleen Williams

564
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: of the U. S. District Court for the Southern District

565
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: of Florida. The injunction orders Genesis to refrain from distributing

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Speaker 1: MMS or any other unapproved drug. The Food and Drug

567
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: Administration said in an announcement a preliminary injunction hearing is

568
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: scheduled from May first. The name defendants in the lawsuit

569
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: are Mark Grinnin, Joseph Grinnin, Jordan Grinnin, and Jonathan Grinnin.

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00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: Mark Grinnan is described by Genesis as its archbishop. While

571
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: Genesis is currently prevented from selling MMS under a temporary

572
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: restraining order, the FDA is also seeking a permanent injunction

573
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: and refunds for people who bought MMS. Genesis was selling

574
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: MMS online and describes it as a sacrament attimpty to

575
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: purchase the product today leads to an error page. It says,

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00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: we are currently in prayer exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point.

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00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: During these difficult, trying times, we are in prayer and

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00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: seeking the all caps lords wisdom and guidance. Please pray

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00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: for us. That good. I'm gonna that's when you That's

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00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: gonna be my error page on like my website too.

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00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just that's a good idea. Also, have we

582
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: thought about if maybe these two quote unquote preachers are

583
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: they're in a contest to see who they can get

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00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: their flock to heaven first, and that's their whole game. Yeah, yeah,

585
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: that might be what's going on here, Billy Wayne, some

586
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: weird self aware cult leaders who were betting on who

587
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: they can Jim Jones their ship fast enough faster. Well,

588
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: you know, I actually there's a lot of comparisons to

589
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: Jim Jones, and I think there's a number of reasons

590
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: why that that actually isn't as fitting as people think.

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00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: Because the people who the the folks who can amitted

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00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: suicide with Jones, who drank the kool aid, which is

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00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: actually I think flavor aid. Um, they all knew they

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00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: were taking poison like some of them resisted it. A

595
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: lot of them took it willingly, but they knew that

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00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: it was poison. Like nobody thought anything was going to happen,

597
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: but that they would die. Whereas these people are taking

598
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: poison and think it's going to cure them. So this

599
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: is actually like the Heaven's Gate people, or not Heaven's Gate. Um,

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00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: what was Jim's Jones? Uh, the Jim Jones drink the

601
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: kool aid whatever people? Um, they knew what they were doing.

602
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: They they wanted to commit suicide, and they took uh,

603
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: functional scientific steps to kill themselves. What's actually happening here

604
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: is much dumber. Yeah, you're right, Yeah, it's it's it's

605
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: it's wild. It's a bummer that like we have to

606
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: be that specific, but like that's where ship is in.

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00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: It's good. How much of this do you think has

608
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: to do with all the new technology we have just

609
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: in the last thirty or forty years exploded. Yeah, I

610
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: think a lot of this is a reaction to the

611
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: complexity of of our society and life. Like one of

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00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: the things, so there's so many different like interlocking subcultures here,

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00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: but one of the different like bullshit medicine, subcultures that

614
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: ties into the bleached Church because they're all talking about

615
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: like you know, Carry barr is saying that it hears

616
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: like herpes and malaria and all these things that are

617
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: like not even a little bit similar in terms of

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00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: the way they work on the body, and it like

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00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: how you actually treat them. Um. It ties in with

620
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: like there's this guy who's on Alex Jones Show a

621
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: bunch um, and who's on Carry Cassidy another like conspiracy theorist,

622
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: like Luminaries Show a bunch who believes that there's no diseases,

623
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: there's only like one illness and it's the result of

624
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: like some spiritual problem. Um. And that's they all kind

625
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: of tie into that, Like that is a general belief

626
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: from all these communities that all illness is really just

627
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: like a spiritual problem them. And there's a number of

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00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: reasons for this. For one thing, a lot of these

629
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: folks are kind of fundamentally conservative, and it allows them

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00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: to blame sick and hurting people for their illnesses. Um.

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00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: For another thing, it's just a um it's I think

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00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: it's a reaction to complexity. Like actual health science is

633
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: so fucking complicated that if you can just convince yourself, no,

634
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: there's only one illness, and I only need to do

635
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: then one thing to protect myself and my family from

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00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: all sickness. Uh, that is comforting. Yeah, it's the same.

637
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: It's why those people are also usually racist, because it

638
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: is a simple form of being, like I need a color,

639
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: not to like that's what I like. Yeah, you're right. Yeah,

640
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm scared of crime. And it's not a multifaceted problem

641
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: that has to be like attacked from a variety of

642
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: different standpoints in order to actually reduce violence and make

643
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: a safer world. It's the problem of this group of people. Yeah, Like,

644
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: it's it's all kind of the same thought processes. Um,

645
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: and at least, yeah, it's it's it's dumb, but all

646
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: of the dumb things in almost all of them are

647
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: the same dumb, right, Like you just have to trace

648
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: back what they're actually thinking about. Um, which is cool

649
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: and good. It's cool that the technology they've we've made

650
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: technology easy enough that the dumb can just get it

651
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: out there. Whoever, Yeah, yeah, there's no nothing's stopping them

652
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: from just shot getting their stupid out to the world. Um. Yeah.

653
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: So Mark Grinnan, who describes himself, as a co founder

654
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: of the Genesis to Church, wrote a letter to the

655
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: f d A in response to all this. Now, in

656
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: that letter, he explained, quote, the sacraments are sacred and

657
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: holy to us, and we use them to keep out

658
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: to keep our temples clean. In doing so, we've helped

659
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: millions around the world. We have a lot of testimonies

660
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: and evidence. It seems if you mentioned anything can rid

661
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: the body of COVID nineteen is not approved by the

662
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: f d A, you get attacked. Well, Mr President, they

663
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: attacked the wrong church, the Church of the Jesus Christ.

664
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: Oh ship that church. Now, that last line is real

665
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: interesting to me, Billy, for a couple of reasons. For one,

666
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: Jim Humble claims to be a billion year old space

667
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: god slash Navy man, and was Slash is a practicing scientologist.

668
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: Jim Humble claims to be a billion year old space

669
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: god slash navy man because he was in the Navy

670
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 1: to the space Navy, in the scientologist the space Navy

671
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: that the aliens had. Anyway, No, I think it was

672
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: dumber than that. I don't think he actually did that

673
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: much time in scientology, but I'm not I don't know exactly. Um. Yeah,

674
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: it's one of those things. Like, so, one thing, it's

675
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: odd that Mark Grennan, who was the co founder of

676
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: Jim Humble's Church UM, claims that his prophet or he

677
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: claims that he's the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ

678
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: and also seems to believe that his prophet is a

679
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: billion year old space god because I think God doesn't

680
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: like other gods. I don't know, I need to reread

681
00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: the Ten Commandments. He's he's confused. I think. Yeah, I

682
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: like the idea that he's a space alien he came

683
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: to Earth and he was like, first of all, navy

684
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: looks dope, we'll get into that. And also Jesus, this

685
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: seems real. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty pretty fun to try

686
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: to trace back all that thinking. Um, So, I don't know,

687
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: I guess belief that Jim like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's whatever. Now.

688
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: I feel if we go every week, he'll fill in

689
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: the gaps, you know. Yeah. I'm not gonna I'm not

690
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: gonna lean too much against that part. Um. But one

691
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: thing I will point out that does clash directly with

692
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: uh Mark Grinnin's claims that they're the true Church of

693
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: the Lord Jesus Christ is. Some statements made on the

694
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: Genesis to Churches website see the government's lawsuit against Genesis

695
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: explicitly describes the church as a quote secular entity based

696
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: in the state of Florida. And that's not the government

697
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: like making a judgment and saying like, no, we've decided

698
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: as the government that this is not a legitimate church.

699
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: That's based on how the Genesis to Church describes itself

700
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: On their own website. They call themselves a non religious

701
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: church with a goal to restore health to the world

702
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: and say that they were quote formed for the purpose

703
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: of serving mankind and not for the purpose of worship,

704
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: which again makes it seem odd that they would claim

705
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: to be the true Church of the Lord Jesus Christ. Um,

706
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: now I found all that really. I think they lack language.

707
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: I think they lack language. They Mark Grinnan, who spoiler

708
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: has is the one who has written everything that we're

709
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: talking about today. Um, he has a real interesting relationship

710
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: with language. Billy so I hopped you can tell with

711
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: the three exclamation points. That's kind of one of his tells. Um.

712
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: So I hopped over to the Genesis two Churches website

713
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,959
Speaker 1: myself to see what other interesting tidbits I could find.

714
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: And I can't say for certain who wrote the copy

715
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: on that website which looks like a Geo cities site

716
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: from but I'm pretty sure it's Mark grennan Um. He

717
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: calls himself the archbishop and co founder of the church.

718
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: He's one of the only people really named repeatedly on

719
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: the church. He has an extensive social media presence, and

720
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: having trolled through his Facebook and some of his other posts,

721
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: the style of writing on the website matches Mark's writing

722
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: style on Facebook and in the letter to the FDA

723
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: to a t. Now. When I visited his Facebook feed,

724
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: the top post on it was a Uni lad video

725
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: summarizing Trump's disinfectant comments, and the video itself was a

726
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: pretty normal and uncontroversial piece of of kind of basic reportage, um,

727
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: just sort of going over what Trump had said and

728
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: how people had reacted to it. Mark wrote above the video,

729
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: though Trump has got the MMS and all the info.

730
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: Exclamation point exclamation point, exclamation from point things are happening, folks,

731
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: Lord help others see the truth. Um. Now. The post,

732
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: which is still up on Facebook, has more than a

733
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty comments, and thankfully most of those comments

734
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: are people they're dunking on Mark grennan. Uh. There's a

735
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: mix of anti Trump memes, a lot of Jim Jones memes,

736
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: and a bunch of links to actual good reporting on

737
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: the dangers of MMS and his stupid church. Um. So

738
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: I just kept going down his his post and for

739
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: an idea of kind of like some of the other

740
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: things this guy talks about. One of the links up

741
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: there was that he shared a YouTube video about Microsoft

742
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: pant patenting a chip for monitoring human beings that was

743
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: like patent number six six six, which is nonsense, and

744
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: interestingly enough, that same week, Alex Jones discussed this same fake,

745
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, bullshit patent story on his Info War show,

746
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: which just goes to show kind of how connected all

747
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: these people are. Um and yeah, it's it's it's cool

748
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: and good. My favorite post was probably one that he

749
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: was a picture of Dr Anthony Faucci um with a

750
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 1: bunch of texts on the image that said hashtag planned

751
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: dimmick there will be a surprise outbreak Dr Anthony Fauci

752
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: stating there will be a surprise out break the coming

753
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: administration will face uh. And this is a link to

754
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: a video that was also on Alex Jones last week,

755
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: which basically pointed out that Dr Fauci warned that the

756
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: incoming Trump administration would face a surprise diss outbreak in January,

757
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of conspiracy folks are saying this is

758
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: proof that Anthony Fauci is in on the coronavirus pandemic

759
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: and help make it. The reality of the comments is

760
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: that he was saying, every single other administration has dealt

761
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: with a surprise disease outbreak in the last thirty years,

762
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: so the Trump administration will too, and we're not ready

763
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: for it, which is completely accurate and exactly what happened. Um.

764
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: But so Mark Grinnan shared this video and he just

765
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: wrote a one word post above it R V I L.

766
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: I think he was trying to type evil, but he

767
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: wrote he mispelled it. That's how That's how much he's

768
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: expelled it from himself. He can't even spail it. How

769
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: much I hate evil, That's how much he's got to

770
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: call it a marvel. His body won't let him type

771
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: the e's going through his social media as I have,

772
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: is why I'm certain that he wrote what I'm about

773
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: to read large segments from so on the Genesis to

774
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: Churches website. There's a segment of the website just titled

775
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: our Church, which describes the history and the purpose of

776
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: the church and is one of the funniest things I've

777
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: ever read, although I guess more horrifying than funny and

778
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: light of its current influence. But I want to just

779
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: state that, based on my reading of all of his

780
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 1: other writing off the website, I am certain that Mark

781
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: Grennan is the only person who wrote this like I

782
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: will be shocked if another hand touched this prose. And

783
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start reading from this now. Billy, Now

784
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: you stop me when you have a question. Okay, there

785
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: has never been a similar church to this church. There

786
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: has never been a church of Health and Healing. Insofar

787
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: as our research has been able to determine, our name

788
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: is Genesis to Church of Health and Healing. The word

789
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: genesis means the beginning, the two in X or in

790
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: a parentheses to symbolizes the second beginning, and we look

791
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: to the words health and healing to indicate that we

792
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: are working towards bringing health to the world. In most

793
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: countries of the world, the common law says and or

794
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: statues have been legislated to say it is legitimate purpose

795
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 1: to form a church to serve God or to serve

796
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: all caps mankind in some way. So far, our research shows,

797
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: down through the ages, it has almost always been stated

798
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: legally and lawfully that the second purpose of serving mankind

799
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: is a legitimate purpose performing a church. Remember, a church

800
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: is nothing more than a group of people who have

801
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: joined together for some common purpose. And as stated above,

802
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: we have not been able to find any evidence of

803
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: any other church that has ever been formed to serve

804
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: mankind all caps. So that's interesting to me for a

805
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: few reasons, Billy. For one thing, that's not what a

806
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: church is. A church is not any group of people

807
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: who joined together for a common purpose, because you could define,

808
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: for example, the Microsoft Corporation that way, yes, or any

809
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 1: magic the gathering, or any game of spades, yeah, any

810
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: game of spades, a dungeons and dragons group, um, which

811
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: as far as I'm aware, is not tax deductive or

812
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: is not a an untaxable entity. Uh yeah. And it's

813
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: also I'm I think we're doing church right now. We're

814
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: doing church. We are this is church. This is a church,

815
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: which means, Sophie, can you get my accountant on the line,

816
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: and tell him I'm gonna stop paying taxes, okay, and

817
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna move to a shack in the

818
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: woods and start manufacturing rifles as well. And I expect

819
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: this to be fine with them. Yeah, okay, they love it.

820
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: They love decisions like that. Yeah, I think so. I

821
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: think this is going to end well for me. Uh

822
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: in the family that I bring up onto a red

823
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: colored ridge line with myself. Um. So yeah, it's it's,

824
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: it's it's I don't know, Billy. It's fascinating to me.

825
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm really interested in the degree of specificity and focus

826
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: that Mark Britain has on insisting that his church is

827
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: not for worship or religion. Um, even though he claims

828
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 1: it's the only true church of Jesus Christ. That's that's

829
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: really weird to me. Um. And I'm not sure why

830
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: he makes such a point of making this claim, especially

831
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: since he got all jesusy in his response to the

832
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: f d A. Like we said before, the way he

833
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: uses language, it's my favorite line. And what you just

834
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: read me was when he was like, according to our research,

835
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: there's never been a church like that. Yeah. Yeah, you're like, well, yeah,

836
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: I mean I've tried to use that answer in class too,

837
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: where like I'm I'm correct according to all the research

838
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: I did, and the teachers like what research is that,

839
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: and like it's not gonna talk about that part. But

840
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: he refers to his research a lot without citing it. Um, Yeah,

841
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: and and it's interesting. Grinnan really finds it important on

842
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: his website to stay repeatedly that his church is not

843
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: formed around the worship of any specific god. He writes,

844
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: we were formed to serve mankind, all caps. Directly, we

845
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: want to bring health to the world. We will also

846
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: serve all caps mankind in other ways. We intend to

847
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: help all caps mankind extract himself from a world of

848
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: death to a world of the living over the coming years.

849
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: It is not a religious goal. It is a realistic

850
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: goal of having us all live in a decent world,

851
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: a world where the brutality has finally been overcome, where

852
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: men no longer kill other men for financial game. Now

853
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: drink my bleach, now, drink my bleach. Yeah, it all

854
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: sounds less stirring when you realize this guy's talking about

855
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: nothing but drinking bleach. I'm just trying to help people

856
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: drink this thing. Drinking now Billy the desire though too

857
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: for a world where brutality has been overcome, where men

858
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: no longer kill them in for financial game. That sounds

859
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: nice though, right, Like we're can all get on board

860
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: that I don't like men killing men for financial gain.

861
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: But even a casual amount of of of googling brings

862
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: up numerous stories of brutality carried out by Genesis to

863
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: Church adherents. And to tell that story, I know surprising.

864
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: To tell that story, I want to roll back to

865
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: our old friend Carrie Rivera for a second. Now. It's

866
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: kind of hard for me to tell what her relationship

867
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: to Genesis Too is Precisely. I've heard her refer to

868
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: both as a member of the church and as a

869
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: former member of the church. She was recently a guest

870
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: on Mark Grennan's Genesis to podcast, where he called her

871
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: a great healer. So it's fair to say that the

872
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: Church approves of her work serving mankind and trying to

873
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: overcome brutality and stop men from killing each other for

874
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: financial gain. And that might that last one, at least

875
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: might be technically true, because Carrie Rivera definitely kills people

876
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: for financial gain, but most of them are children, so Jesus.

877
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: That's good. There's always like, as as much as I've

878
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: heard and been on this show and you think like

879
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: I know where this is headed, there's always like a

880
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: little like just a little curve at the end, just

881
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: a terrible, terrible curveball at the end. We're like, God,

882
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: damn it. Well now Carrie is our our asshole bleaching lady.

883
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: That's I know, I know, I know. I mean, you know, Billy,

884
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: if you if you poison them with bleach when their kids,

885
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: it reduces the amount of damage they can do as adults.

886
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: That's not true. That is not true. Yeah, it actually

887
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: probably increases it by quite a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

888
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: just statistically, probably a number of serial killers being spawned

889
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: as a result of the horrible abuse they encounter in

890
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: this uh cult, A lot of a lot of bleach

891
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: based serial killers in about fifteen years going to be

892
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: trawling the California highways. So since our last episode, sorry

893
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: it's the COVID, I need my bleach, um, since our

894
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: what I don't like that, Sophie Robert lad break. I

895
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: don't like that line. It's time for you know, it'll

896
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: cure your coronavirus. Did he go too dark? I don't

897
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: think that's possible. No, no unhappiness in my heart though.

898
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: Well that see, here's my thinking, Sophi, here's my thinking.

899
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: If bleach, here's the coronavirus, which, as far as everything

900
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: I've read, has to be true. If bleach, here's the coronavirus,

901
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: and Raytheon can make a missile with help from the

902
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: good folks at Lockheed Martin that just is made of knives,

903
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: that whole knife missile thing. If they can make a

904
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: knife missile, couldn't they make a bleach missile. Yeah, it's

905
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: time for Afghanistan and Syria both have bad coronavirus problems. Right,

906
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: you could solve that with enough bleach missiles. It's time

907
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: for our drones to get into the medical business. And

908
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: the good folks at Raytheon Slash Lockheed Martin are going

909
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: to help with that. So support them. People get back

910
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: to work, and did people get back to work? Get

911
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: America back to work and back to bleaching. Robert I

912
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: would like to people sucking on this podcast. So we're

913
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: gonna have to go to break and not say things

914
00:51:53,239 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: that incriminate ourselves. All right, products we're back from outer space.

915
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: You just all walked in to find us here with

916
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: that happy look upon your face. I'm just gonna it's

917
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: taken this long for that line to happen. It's in

918
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: my head every single break. Now. Since our last episode,

919
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: Billy Wayne, Carrie Rivera has been heavily to platform. She's

920
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: been kicked off of YouTube, her Facebook is only allowed

921
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: to share non bleach related content. Um, and she doesn't

922
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: really have any other kind of mainstream social media apps.

923
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: Uh So Carrie had to follow in the footsteps of

924
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: all of our best white nationalists and she had to

925
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: take to telegram. She opened several private groups where paying

926
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 1: customers could congregate to talk bleach and get paid advice

927
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: from Carrie. When the coronavirus hit carry Rivera immediately prescribed

928
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: it to absolutely everyone as a preventative measure. Now, Business

929
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: Insider has really done some of the best reporting on

930
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: the whole Bleach cult. Like I I it's not normally

931
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: an let that I'm a huge fan of, but their

932
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 1: work on this particular story has been second to none.

933
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: They reached out to Rivera for a statement about her

934
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 1: promotion of bleach as a COVID nineteen cure. She responded, quote,

935
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: if you're sincerely interested in health reporting, you might look

936
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: up all the medical use patents that include chlorine dioxide

937
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: as an ingredient. After you've done that, maybe we can talk. Meanwhile,

938
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm busy helping my families, and she's referring to like

939
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: patents for like water purification systems that have coin dioxided

940
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: wildly lower concentration. Anyway, I shouldn't even be like fact

941
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: checking her because she's full of ship. But it's like

942
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: rat poison being in the lacroix kind of now, Billy

943
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: rat poison kills rats, rats spread disease, ergo. Eating straight

944
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: rat poison is a health remedy, and I would like

945
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: to prescribe as much rat poison as you can fit

946
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: in your gullet to all of my listeners today. Just really,

947
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: the church of rat poison is opening up. I don't

948
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: condone that. I wonder. I bet it would take at

949
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: least six months for the FDA to shut us down.

950
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: It would take longer than like, just as if we

951
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: did it as a joke just to see. I think

952
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: it would make us so sad. We would just like

953
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 1: we gotta stop. They're not gonna this is, I mean

954
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: it might Billy times are hard, and I need money

955
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: to buy my compound in Idaho where I cannot pay

956
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 1: taxes and manufacture illegal sought off weapons. So you know, uh,

957
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 1: maybe they don't. They don't look for that in Idaho,

958
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: so you'll be out, so business Insider. Obviously, Carry was

959
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: not willing to talk to them. But they've already obtained

960
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: an into Carrie's online community, as have a number of journalists.

961
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: They've gotten into her telegram groups or gotten access to

962
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 1: activists who are in these telegram groups kind of watching

963
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: what Carry and her fellow Bleach cult people are doing. Uh.

964
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: In one video published to Carry Rivera's telegram group, Carry

965
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: advises her followers that they can prevent the rohna by

966
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: taking each and drinking it straight from the bottle, by

967
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: spraying it into their mouth and nose periodically, or by

968
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: loading it into a humidifier. And you used to get

969
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: to coat the entire room a lot of ruined clothes

970
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: in these um Now. She noted that if her followers

971
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: get sick with the coronavirus anyway, which you think might

972
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,959
Speaker 1: suggest that maybe none of this actually works to prevent

973
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: the coronavirus whatsoever, But she provided instructions for people who

974
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: get the coronavirus anyway, saying quote, we can go into

975
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: hyper mode and we can be doing everything. And by

976
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: this she means that people who get the coronavirus should

977
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: start not just drinking bleach, but drinking it, spraying it

978
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: into their mouth and nose and loading it into a humidifier.

979
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: So if you could wrap it around your neck, that

980
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: would be helpful too. Yeah, is much like carry it

981
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: like one of those medievals plague sensors. Just like bleach

982
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: constantly spraying down your front. Now, a lot of people,

983
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: a heartbreaking number of people, Billy, dozens of them followed

984
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: Carrier of AERA's advice, which came with predictable and horrific

985
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: health consequences. Parents uploaded photos of their wounded children to

986
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: telegram in order to ask Carrie for advice in business.

987
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: Instrution Inside or republished several of these extremely disturbing excerpts

988
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: from the chat. So can you send Billy the first picture,

989
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: the one that has the picture the kid. This is

990
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: a This is part of a chat conversation in the

991
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: telegram thread and someone one of the parents posts, my

992
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: son suddenly has a rash. Anybody know what it is?

993
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: I've never seen it before, and it's a picture of

994
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: what looks like a very painful rash, like right on

995
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: the kid's chest. Um, kind of like on his pectoral area.

996
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: It looks really really nasty. Um and carry Rivera responded,

997
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: her Kimer vs. Side secondary effect c D or any

998
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: detox protocol item can cause a her Kimer reaction. Her

999
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: Kimer reaction is the body saying you were going too

1000
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: fast at the detoxification and she used the wrong too

1001
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: for that with the one oh my yeah yeah. Uh

1002
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: So that actually counts as kind of responsible because she's

1003
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: saying that they were going too fast with the bleaching

1004
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: of their children, which is very different from her normal responses.

1005
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: So another response that Business Insider included in their article

1006
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: was a parent saying, it's a full moon, my son

1007
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: is aggressive today. Um. And I I can say, as

1008
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: a former special ed teacher, a lot of people even

1009
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 1: within that field, have some beliefs about the full moon

1010
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: and it impacting um, particularly autistic kids behavior. I don't

1011
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: think there's any evidence of that, but it's something that

1012
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: like a lot of parents and even caregivers talk about.

1013
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: So this mom comes in and says it's full moon,

1014
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: my son is aggressive today. Uh. And Carrie Rivera immediately

1015
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: responds triple dose. And then in the next post Animals,

1016
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: triple dose inemas, that's her. That's her response to a

1017
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: kid being a little more aggressive one day than the other. Uh.

1018
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: And I can say that even the people I worked

1019
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: with in special ed whom had some maybe non non

1020
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: scientific views about the full moon, none of none of

1021
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: them gave kids multiple enemas as a response to aggression.

1022
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: Mostly we had them practice in coloring books. But yeah, um,

1023
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: some parents are both teachers, and they would come home

1024
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: and they would say, I mean, not even about special kids.

1025
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: They would just be like as a full moon Friday,

1026
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: as they were sucking other minds today. Just that kind

1027
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: of stuff where it's like that's a common thing. And

1028
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: then for her to it, she just sounds like that

1029
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: aggressive bro. It's like, oh, you need three shots. Bleach

1030
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: that kid's asshole, bra Yeah, bleach it three times. Kids

1031
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: being agro bleach that asshole. Yeah. In another exchange appearance,

1032
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: you were the kid, You're like, the bleach is the

1033
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: strongest of all billy I know. And now in another

1034
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: exchange in this telegram channel, a parent complains to carry

1035
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: that their child has a fever and a cold after

1036
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: beginning her course of MMS. They write, we are on

1037
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: two drops of chlorine dioxide. Didn't start enema yet, kid

1038
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: got fever and cold. What should I do now? Question mark?

1039
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: Can I continue chlorine dioxide? Carry responds, Stay on chlorine

1040
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: dioxide sixteen times a day, chlorine dioxide, baths, chlorine dioxide,

1041
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: oral chlorine dioxide, enema. If eating stops, then only baths

1042
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: and enemas. I can't. Yeah, she's an unfathomably evil person

1043
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: and deserves to be fired out of a cannon into

1044
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: the sun. Um I don't Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm

1045
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: usually fundamentally against the death penalty, you know, exceptions, exceptions, this,

1046
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: This would be the only proof I would require as

1047
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: a juror for like, yeah, let's just let's just let's

1048
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: just get her out of here, let's just deal with

1049
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: this person. Yeah, yeah, that one. Yeah, god, yeah, she's

1050
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: a monster like that. If eating stops, then only baths

1051
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: and enemas. Like you typed that, Carrie. You wrote that

1052
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: with your own hands, and you didn't explode into a

1053
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: ball of self loathing, and you charged people money for

1054
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: you to write that to them. Like fucking hell, Like

1055
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: at least when Paul Manafort funded and helped to spark

1056
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Speaker 1: civil wars in multiple countries, killing hundreds of thousands of people.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to finish that sentence. Um, I

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01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: hate them both. I bet they I bet they've hung out.

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01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: I feel like they've been in the same room probably before.

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01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: They're the same kind of person, and that I think

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01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: that like there's great. There's certain groups of people like

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01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: like you look at these kind of like financial criminals

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01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: who like ran a lot of the banks that led

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Speaker 1: us into the twos and eight crash, and that are

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01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: definitely in the process of fucking things up again today.

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Speaker 1: I think the right response, the right punishment to those

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01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: people is to take away all of their money and

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Speaker 1: to make them live like normal folks, work in a

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01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: normal a straight job, you know, hold down an apartment. Right. Um,

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01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: that's what you do to those people. Uh, that's the

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01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: worst punishment they can get. And I think that they

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01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't be any danger to mankind if they their money

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01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: was gone and they just had to be a normal person.

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01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: And in fact, I think some of them might actually

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01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: be happier. But I think there's some people who are

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01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: fundamentally toxic and who will do whatever because of their need.

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Speaker 1: And I don't really understand what the need is, but

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01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: Carrie Rivera has it. You cannot stop this person from

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01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: giving dangerous life, alteringly toxic because kids have kids have

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01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: at least two kids have died taken chlorine dioxide. Kids

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01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: have been hospitalized and lost stomach lining, specifically from taking

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Speaker 1: Carrie's advice. Um, there is nothing that will stop my theory.

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01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: If we followed her story back deep enough to where

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01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: her zenith there is a tree or something falling on

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01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: her hand. Yeah, she's a tree headcase, right, Yeah, she

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01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: just has to be doing this. She can't stop her

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01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: fucking I hate. Yeah. So Carrie Rivera is a monster.

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01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: And I'm not a theologian billy, But I might describe

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01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: telling a parent to give their children chlorine baths and

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01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: enemas if they stop eating. Um, I might describe that

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01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: as violating Mark Grennan's commandment that members of the Genesis

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01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: to Church should work to overcome brutality. That seems brutal

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01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: to me. But I'm not a theologian billy. I didn't

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01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: go to theologian college theology. Uh so maybe I'm wrong

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01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: about that. If you're a theologian, let us know in

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01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: the comments if I have if I've gotten religion wrong. Um,

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01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna move back on to the Art Church Explanatory

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01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,439
Speaker 1: Essay on the Genesis two website quote. This is under

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01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: the section titled our service to mankind consists of number one,

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01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: doing good deeds. Number two good health for all mankind.

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01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: Number three doing what is right, which seems like doing

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01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: good deeds, but I guess it needed a second. Yeah,

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01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: freedom for all mankind. Number four, Enlighten others with the truth.

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01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: Number five, helping one another. Number six, which also seems

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01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: like it falls under the doing good deeds. It's it's

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01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: number seven, maintain integrity in all things, which seems like

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01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: doing what is right. I feel like you've got maybe

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01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: actually three commandments there, but I I don't know. Again

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01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: not I don't. One if we're being honest, he's just like,

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01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: don't be a dick would kind of thing. I guess

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01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: you could say, don't be a dick. Good health for

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01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: all mankind. Yeah, maybe maybe two, but that's still part

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01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: of being not being a dick. It's being healthy, yea

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01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: care of yourself that it all falls into that I think, yeah,

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01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: it's it's not a good like really, the more I

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01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: read the Genesis to Church, the more approval I have

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01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: for at least kind of the amount of thinking that

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01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: went into the Ten Commandments, because those are all very

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01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: distinct commandments and they applied even if you're not really

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01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: that religious. They're like, this is a good set of rules.

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01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: You guys, you can't I'm not a big an of

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01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: the no God but God sort of thing, but like, yeah,

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01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: the whole you know, not murdering, that's a that's a

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01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: pretty I'm on board, right, Yeah, yeah, fine, yeah, yeah,

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01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: there's there's some good stuff in there that's not repeated.

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01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, good work, Jehovah. Solid commandment writing.

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01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: Mark Grinn improves that it's actually pretty hard. So the

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01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: next get the confusing overall religious part of the Bible, though,

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01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: he gets that part where it contradicts itself, and he

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01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: gets that part pretty good. He does get, yeah, the

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01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: self contradictory part. And I don't know, Billy fingers crossed.

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01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: I think there might be a couple of genocides as

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01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 1: the result of this bleached church in the future, but well,

1134
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: we we will see. Anything can happen in h Yeah,

1135
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: the persecution is coming, so that part is going to come.

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01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: Yea and excited I told you, I am excited for

1137
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: when the church, the bleached Church, splits into from the

1138
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: people who think that you need to use bleach enemas

1139
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: along with bleach in the mouth and the eyes, to

1140
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: the people who just think you need to drink bleach,

1141
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: and then those two sides start a war and like

1142
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: one group winds up holding up in a castle in

1143
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: the south of France and there's a horrible siege and

1144
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: a massacre. Like I'm fucking really looking forward to that

1145
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: that part of the Bleach Church's history. That's gonna be

1146
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: some good times. The Bleach Crusades, Oh my god, gonna

1147
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: be great. I'm kind of now that if you put

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01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: it that way. Yeah, I feel like I'll be one

1149
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: of those people during this war just watching, just being

1150
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: like they're fotting down on that heil down there, Isn't

1151
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: it funny? Yeah? Yeah, because like the Crusades they tried

1152
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: to like it started when they tried to retake Jerusalem,

1153
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: and I guess for the bleached Churts it would be

1154
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: like Beverly Hills. Yeah, that that feels right. I'm there's

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01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: some good heels to watch him too. That's great. There

1156
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: is a great thing about l A. I'm looking forward

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01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: to that religious war. So the next paragraph of the

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01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: our Service to Mankind section is real, real good times,

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01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: because this is where we finally learned why the Genesis

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01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: to Church put such a focus on not uh worshiping

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01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: a God and instead focusing on helping people. And it's

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01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: because centering their church on any God or gods would

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01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: distract from the one true God of the Genesis to Church,

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01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: which is, of course Bleach. No. No, we do not

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01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: feel it is our mission to teach our members any

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01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: kind of beliefs beyond the technology of our sacramental protocol

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01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: water and any other cleansing technology of our healing sacraments.

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01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: We believe that it is each member's private responsibility to

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01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: form his or her own religious beliefs, and thus we

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01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: remain neutral to all the religious beliefs of our members.

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01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: So we don't talk about any specific God because our

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01:06:52,400 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: God is Bleach slash sacramental protocol water. That is I

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01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: am very you know. One of the problems this church

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01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: is gonna have is when their equivalent of Martin Luther

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01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: nails his ninety five theses to the door of Mark

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01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: Grennan's house. All that bleach is gonna white out whatever

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01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: they've written on the papers, which is gonna make it

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01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: hard to have bleached Lutherans. It's wow. Yeah. So after

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01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: all this, the page goes on to outline the many

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01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: benefits of membership in the church. Mark states that the

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01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: main one is that you'll help Genesis to change the

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01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: world into a better place. He writes, quote, I mean

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01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: really change the world, not all the Mamby pamby stuff

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01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: that the religions have been spewing for the past thousands

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01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: of years, which is like taking a shot. That's like

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01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: me cutting an album like in my home, using nothing

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01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: but this empty jug of wine, and then being like

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01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: this is going to change the world. Not like that

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01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: namby Pamby bullshit. The Beatles put out what did they get?

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01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: A couple hundred million albums sales? Nobody knows is that ship? Hey, Jude,

1191
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: go fund yourself like pet sounds Yeah, yeah, you call

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01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: yourself the beach boys. Nothing says the beach like me

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01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: blowing into a jug. It's it's it's great. I mean,

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01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 1: you gotta respect the hutzpah. Now, the other benefits that

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01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 1: mark lists of joining the Genesis Church include protection against

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01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: unwanted vaccinations. See joining the Genesis to Church means that

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01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: you are entitled to get a little card with your

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01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 1: face on it that you can give to your doctor

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01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: or to your kids school, and it states that your

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01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: religion forbids vaccinations, unwanted X rays or quote health insurance

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01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: mandated by human authority, which I think means that members

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01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: of the Genesis to Church get exempt from Obamacare or

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01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 1: presumably whatever single payer system the you're the European or

1204
01:08:53,560 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: Australian ones they're under. So that's cool. Listen here, it

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01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: just feels like the dude start. I mean, it's like

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01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,759
Speaker 1: any religion I understand, where it's like they keep writing

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01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 1: it as the hiccups come along, where it's like, hey,

1208
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 1: there's some of these people have insurance and they're going

1209
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: the doctor and this is really cutting into our sales.

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01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: So let's say that they're exempt from this so they

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01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: don't have to get Uh yeah, I mean I suspect

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01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: this is like part of a scheme to try to

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01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: exempt people from like you know how I think this

1214
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: has changed under Trump, but it used to be that, like,

1215
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: if you didn't sign up for Obamacare and you didn't

1216
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: have health insurance through some other means, you paid an

1217
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: additional tax. I'm guessing this is Mark Grinnin's way of

1218
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: like trying to con people by saying, like, you won't

1219
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 1: have to pay, you know, those taxes if you join

1220
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 1: our church, which I don't think would actually exempt you

1221
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: from that tax. But that's what I'm guessing is the

1222
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: actual purpose of this. Yeah yeah, God said I didn't

1223
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: have to take my ail sets, but I still get

1224
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 1: to be a lawyer. Uh, billy, I think you have

1225
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:03,480
Speaker 1: just hit upon the world's whist religion. Okay, yeah, lawyerism.

1226
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: This is this. This, this is the like, if you

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01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: join our church, you are legally a lawyer and can

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01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 1: then represent yourself in court when the government raids your

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01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 1: small mountain compound because you haven't been paying taxes. I object, well,

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01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: lawyer is m if you think libertarians argued, Yeah, yeah.

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01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: So the next thing membership grants you is the ability

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01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: to purchase health products of all kinds in any quantity,

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01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: which I think mainly means bleach in this context. So

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01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: paid membership costs thirty five dollars per adult, and you

1235
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 1: also have to pay like half as much per child,

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01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,560
Speaker 1: plus twenty dollars per year, and it entitles you to

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01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 1: a photo I D that lists your rights. Uh In

1238
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: notes that the church will prosecute anyone caught violating them.

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01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 1: Mark Grennan notes children twelve and below our half price,

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01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: and each child should carry one of these cards, especially

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01:10:54,600 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: to prevent vaccinations. Oh man, so good, it's so cool

1242
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: and so good. Where are you as a child that

1243
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 1: you could accidentally get vaccinated? They believe they believe. I

1244
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: don't think Mark Grinnan believes could think Mark grinn is

1245
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: a con man, but they have convinced a bunch of

1246
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 1: very dumb and scared parents to believe that there's people

1247
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: like lurking in the fucking bushes, doctors trying to like

1248
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 1: vaccinate your kids with poison um like that. That's not

1249
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 1: far off from what a lot of these folks believe.

1250
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of where they're coming from.

1251
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: So Billy, as we enjoyed laughing about last time. Members

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01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: of the church can also pay to become Ministers of health,

1253
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 1: either in seminars conducted by Grinning around the world or

1254
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: in online classes. Grinnan notes the training is very thorough

1255
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:47,440
Speaker 1: and includes doing and using all the sacraments protocols on oneself.

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01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: Each student learns all the technical data of why MMS

1257
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: works and sacraments for most diseases of mankind. Finally, there

1258
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 1: is an exam to test your mental proficiency of the

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01:11:56,439 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: g two sacraments. Now, you might notice that term health minister,

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01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 1: which is used by Grinnin on the official website, is

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01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: different from the title reverend doctor, which church founder Jim

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01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: Humble used when advertising the same thing. And this is

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Speaker 1: a running theme with the genesis to Church responsible like

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01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: UM like like. Journalists who have covered them will note

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01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: that in different places and by on the websites of

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01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 1: different people, MMS is both stated to stand for Miracle

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01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: Mineral Solution and Magical Mineral Solution UM, which is a

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01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 1: thing like respectable medical training establishments always use wildly different

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01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 1: terms for the exact same thing. Like that's a fine thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like how we also called doctors jimbo Jones and

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01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 1: both of those terms are equal. I don't know, I

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01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 1: don't know what it's like. It's not like any of

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01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: because people are scam artists. Now, on his website, Mark

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01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: Grennan insists that quote no one in the history of

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01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 1: man has had as much in ability to heal as

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Speaker 1: many diseases with as much certainty, and he's referring to

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01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: the the ministers who trained in his bleaching program. Medical doctors,

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01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: for instance, will in their entire lifetime heal less people

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01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: than one of our active ministers will heal in one year. Doctors, Yeah,

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01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: if all you're doing is pouring, bleaching people's throats and

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01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: calling them cured, that is easier than treating actual sick people.

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Speaker 1: It takes so long to heal a broken leg, Billy,

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01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: it does. It's it's incredibly compa Yeah, gunshot wounds those

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01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 1: can take years to heal from. But if you're just

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01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 1: pouring bleaching people, so much easier. These idiot doctors learning

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01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 1: how to do stuff like set bones and run ventilators

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01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: when all they need is bleached. All I need it,

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01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: that's Billy. I just came up with a new hit

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01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: song from my Better than the Beatles one Man jug band,

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01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: All you Need is Bleached, set to the tune of

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01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: nothing else that's ever been sung before. It's totally original,

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01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: I think, just with a hint of reggae underneath. We

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01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: got oh yeah, oh fuck yeah, dude. As much reggae

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01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: as you can get into a man blowing into a

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01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: jug that's probably a reggat anything. So the Genesis to

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01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: Church also notes that the kind of certificate that you

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01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: get is experienced based, So once you've healed ten people,

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01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: you can request and pay more for a bishop certificate.

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01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 1: So that's really the line to become a bishop. So

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01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: we could be bishop doctors. Huh, I don't. I'm I'm

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01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: pretty ambitious, so I'm in you know, see, it's one

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01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 1: of those things. The state of New Jersey has officially

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01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 1: recognized me as a reverend doctor. That's not a joke.

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01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 1: That's a thing that's happened. I have the certificate, so

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01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: I am already legally a reverend doctor. But I could

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01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:42,560
Speaker 1: become a reverend doctor bishop, which that's thirty three more official.

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01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: I'm asking anyone that has the power and anywhere but

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01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: New Jersey make me reverend doctor. So we could. So

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01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 1: the race is onto who becomes this bishop first, and

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01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 1: then we can have a bishop contest. So if you,

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01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: if you have the ability to to get a state

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01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: legislature to recognize someone officially recognize Billy as a reverend

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01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: doctor and also recognized me as a bishop. Um oh man, Billy.

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01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: What if I were to move onto a small town

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01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 1: in the middle of rural Idaho, start manufacturing a legal weapon,

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01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: stop paying taxes, and also run for sheriff, then I

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01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 1: could be sheriff, reverend doctor, Bishop Evans, and I would

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01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 1: I would could I get I would like dual citizenship

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01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: with the United States and whatever you decided to call

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01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 1: your sovereign country. Yeah, yeah, we will succeed very quickly,

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01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: like basically immediately. Yeah. No, that's I just felt that

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01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,799
Speaker 1: I would be redundant to say that you would succeed,

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01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:45,759
Speaker 1: but that was I would like dual citizenship. Yeah yeah, Now, Billy,

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01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 1: the whole Genesis to website is a real comedy gold mine,

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01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: or at least it would be if children weren't being

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01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 1: tortured with bleach based on these nonsensical teachings. The next

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01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: section of the explainer page on that website is simply

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01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 1: titled who are we, and it answers that question with

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01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 1: the Genesis to Church of Health and Healing, a most

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01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 1: unusual church, which is not inaccurate. It's very unusual. Although

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01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: the church part I disagree with. Now. This is followed

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01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: immediately by a quote attributed to Archbishop Mark Grinning. And

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01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 1: remember he's the one who wrote this. So he's wrote this,

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01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: and he's quoting himself in it. And here's what he

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01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 1: quotes himself as saying, nothing is lawfully right, that is

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01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 1: morally wrong. I mean immediately, that's yeah, I will kick

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01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: you in the nuts because you are full as ship. Yeah,

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01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 1: it's awesome. It's so good that all of this has

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01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: been allowed to continue up to this point. So the

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01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: the FDA letter to Mark um demanded that he stopped

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01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: selling drinking bleach, that he takes action to inform his

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01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: followers that he lied about its powers, and that he

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01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: refund their money. Um And in his response letter to them,

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01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: Mark was unequivocal about his rejection of government's power to

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01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,799
Speaker 1: stop him from telling people to bleach away their problems.

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01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: He closed it out by writing, we can say here

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01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 1: he'll and treat as a free church. Don't need your

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01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 1: approove voler authorization for a church sacrament. There will be

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01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: no corrective actions on our part. You have no authority

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01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: over us, never going to happen. That's official. That's how

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01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: unofficial would write it. Now that's do you think do

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01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: you think he took that to like a notary to

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01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 1: get that notarized in there? Like, I mean, I don't

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01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 1: notorize it. I don't. Yeah, I knowing Mark grinn and

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01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 1: his notary would be just pouring a little dabble a

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01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 1: bleach on the end there. That's a seal so ant stamped.

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01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,719
Speaker 1: I will say though, in that last statement, Mark Grennan's

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01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: bleached church is in lockstep with a pretty significant chunk

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01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 1: of the Trumpett wing of the American conservative movement. And

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01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,600
Speaker 1: this is where things get real dark. Uh. Now, I

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01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 1: made a point of noting that it's very unlikely that

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01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: Trump's disinfectant remarks were a direct signal to the bleached Church,

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01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that there's been no buy into

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01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 1: the bleach could by powerful Republican figures. You ever heard

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01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 1: of all and Keys, Billy Wayne? Yeah. Dr Allen L. O.

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Speaker 1: Keys not in any way a medical doctor. Is a

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01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 1: Harvard University graduate and a veteran of the US Foreign Service.

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01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: He served at consulates in India and Zimbabwe, and he

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01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: was made an ambassador to the U n by President

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01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan. He is a famed arch conservative hardliner with

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Speaker 1: a long series of failed election bids and an equally

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01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 1: long history of being backed by Republican leaders. Reagan himself

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01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 1: endorsed keys is nine senate run. I'm gonna quote now

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01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 1: from The Daily Beast. In two thousand and four, he

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01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: made headlines for abruptly moving to Chicago to run against

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01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: Barack Obama than a state senator. On the campaign trail,

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01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 1: Keys was vocally anti abortion and anti gay, infamously calling

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01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 1: Vice President Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter a selfish hedonist. After

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01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: the two thousand eight presidential election, Keys became a member

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01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 1: of the birther movement, which falsely charged that Obama was

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01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: not born in the United States. He has since traveled

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01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: in a paranoid wing of the GOP, authoring articles for

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01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 1: the conspiracy heavy sight World Net Daily. Nevertheless, Keys has

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01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: more mainstream cloud than some of his fellow travelers. He

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01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: hosted a short lived MSNBC show, Alan keys Is Making

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01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: Sense in two thous two and spoke at s Pack

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01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 1: this year. So Keys is, we will say, not the

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01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 1: most mainstream Republican figure, but he is very much in

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01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 1: the broad Republican movement and mainstream enough that he got

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01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: to speak at Fucking Cepack. Alan Keys is also a

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01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: big old fan of drinking Bleach in the Church of

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01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 1: Drinking Bleach. He first met with Mark and Jonathan Grinning

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01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: in August of two eighteen, and after that meeting he

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01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: began increasingly touting the benefits of MMS. His current platform

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01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: is the far right video channel i am TV, which

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01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: mainly exists to push the work of dr Allen L. Keys.

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01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: His show, Let's Talk America, is the star program for

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01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: the network. Alan has had a number of MMS touting guests,

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01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: including Mike Adams, founder of Natural News, former Bastards, pod

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01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 1: uh Subject, and a regular Info Wars co host. Another

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01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 1: host on the I m TV network, Robert Sisson, has

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01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: hosted Mark Grennan to talk about MMS. Now. The good

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01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 1: news is that I MTV is still a decidedly fringe endeavor.

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01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 1: The channel streams on Roku in YouTube. I can't tell

1405
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 1: you its exact size, but it has only three hundred

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01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 1: followers on YouTube. This might lead you to reject and

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01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: ignore it completely, and I want to caution people against

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01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: doing that. I'm going to quote The Daily Beast again

1409
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: to explain why I MTV describes itself as a news

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01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 1: channel backed by Dr Alan Keys, although that support might

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01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 1: not necessarily be financial. Sissan has also described another kind

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01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 1: of backing, spiritual support from Uganda. I AMTV operates a

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01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 1: new studio out of Uganda and has released multiple videos

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01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 1: showing Cissan and Keys in the country together, although those

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01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,879
Speaker 1: videos primarily show the pair engaged in church ministry. Sissan

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01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 1: has said that they distributed chlorine dioxide to locals. We've

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01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: been doing this for years in Africa and treating literally

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01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: thousands and thousands and thousands of people with all kinds

1419
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 1: of remarkable stories from people who are left to die

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01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: because they've been poisoned. Uh and it cures that in

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01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: just a few hours, he said in an August video

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01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: titled Chlorine Dioxide Update. Though i MTV does not appear

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01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: to have uploaded fotage of its affiliates distributing mms in Uganda,

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01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 1: other chlorine dioxide distributors in Uganda have posted pictures of

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01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: themselves feeding the mixture to children. So that's good. Kids

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01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: are being kids are being bleached in Uganda thanks to

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01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: this guy. Um and he's got some steak in it.

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01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 1: Then Alan Keys has done, has given it out himself. Yeah, yeah,

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01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 1: he's got some money in it, That's all I mean,

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01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: because I was just like, what's his angle here, because

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01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,640
Speaker 1: at first I was like, well, maybe it's just like

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01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 1: getting the followers some power and it's money. He's uh yeah. Now,

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01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,799
Speaker 1: Uganda authorities have already arrested at least one American Probate

1434
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: Bleach activist in the past for poisoning children, which is

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01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 1: a real sentence about a thing that happened. Um, this

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01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 1: does not seem to have had an impact on people

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01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 1: like Sisson and Keys, though. In in October two, nineteen

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01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 1: edition of Keys Show, Robert Sisson stated, I'm convinced that

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01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: chlorine dioxide is going to be what God uses to

1440
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 1: bring down big Pharma. He directed listeners to the Genesis

1441
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 1: to website and told them to buy MMS. Then he

1442
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: went on to add, I do know that it will

1443
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: detoct your body and then God himself will heal you

1444
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,879
Speaker 1: where And we're finding in like in Uganda, curing malaria

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01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: and poisoning and diabetes and aids. By the way, it's amazing.

1446
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: Alan Keys, who was again a recent invited guest speaker

1447
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 1: at Sea Pack, listened to this and then stated that

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01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: Cissan's claims are quote why I was so interested in

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01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 1: MMS and going to Uganda so far? So. In conclusion, Billy,

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01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 1: the Bleach Church and its profits are profoundly silly and

1451
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,919
Speaker 1: they don't deserve to be taken seriously, but the impact

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01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 1: and the spread of their dangerous beliefs has to be

1453
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 1: taken seriously. When we ignore groups like this, we allow

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01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: them to spread and metastasized through our society. Trump's words

1455
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: have added fuel to their movement. It is no longer

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01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 1: an option to just pretend we can ignore these people.

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01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: And again, the article that just came out today from

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01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: Vice quotes Carry Rivera and a number of other people

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01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: who have been very bullish about Trump's bleached Trump's disinfectment statements, saying,

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01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: in one case, a person wrote, this is a major

1461
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 1: opportunity to begin a discussion about a timely and interesting

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01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 1: application of chlorine dioxide. It's worth noting that the only

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01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 1: person not super happy about all this in recent days

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01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 1: has been Mark Grennan, because his church has attracted FDA

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01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: attention and they seem to be seriously pursuing them, he

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01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: wrote recently on the April Yeah, that is good. Um.

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01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: He wrote on the twenty April things have been happening

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01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: folks in the last week or two. That is not good.

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01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 1: This insanity has to stop. Um yeah, yeah. He wrote

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Speaker 1: that three U S. Marshals had quote put a restraining

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Speaker 1: order on our church door. Um, so that's kind of

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Speaker 1: like Martin Luther. So I guess maybe that's our reform. Um.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but they seem serious about it. This

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Speaker 1: story is developing, and unfortunately you and I are going

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Speaker 1: to wind up talking about the bleached church again. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, I know. We might never stop doing that.

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Speaker 1: And it's our pentance for all the machety stuff. It is.

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Speaker 1: It is we made a lot of money. Yeah m hm,

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Speaker 1: so it's our pentance. The universe is a motherfucker. I

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Speaker 1: will say the f d A has supported and approves

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Speaker 1: of machetes as a treatment for any and all ailments.

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Speaker 1: It is the only one true medicine. So buy a

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Speaker 1: machete today, um, and swing it in a wide arc

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Speaker 1: around your body when you go out, and I guarantee

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Speaker 1: you will not get close enough to anyone to spread

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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. That's the beauty of a machete. That's facts. Muh.

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Speaker 1: Do we die? No horrificking bummed out. So, Billy, do

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Speaker 1: you have anything you would like to plug that part? Oh? Yes,

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, sorry. You can follow me at Billy Wayne

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Speaker 1: Davis on Twitter and Instagram. Uh and then that's where

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Speaker 1: I'll post any new information. And I have a new

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Speaker 1: podcast called Grown Local, which is about the people in

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Speaker 1: places of the cannabis communities around our country. First season

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Speaker 1: is about Eugene, Oregon. Hey, Robert, do you have anything

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Speaker 1: that you would like to plug or promote? I have

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Speaker 1: a podcast called The Women's War, which is about a

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Speaker 1: trip I took to Syria that wound up being the

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Speaker 1: most inspiring and least depressing things that has happened to

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Speaker 1: me in the last three or four years. Uh and

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Speaker 1: I think it provides an inspiring roadmap for how society

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Speaker 1: could be uh rebuilt in the face of collapse in

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Speaker 1: a positive and non toxic direction that might be healthier

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Speaker 1: than a lot of what we're doing right now. So

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Speaker 1: people should take a take a listen, take a gander.

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Speaker 1: I also want to note that I have currently this

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Speaker 1: week launched a fundraiser for There is an organization in Portland,

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Speaker 1: the Portland Diaper Bank, that is attempting to provide diapers

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Speaker 1: to low income mothers, basically people who can't afford diapers

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Speaker 1: because they're expensive and you need a lot of them

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Speaker 1: for babies. Uh. Normally they're able to collect funds to

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Speaker 1: to do this for a year, UM, but they have recently,

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Speaker 1: as a result of the COVID nineteen pandemic, had trouble

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Speaker 1: getting donations from within Portland. UM. When I started the

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Speaker 1: fundraiser this morning, they were about ten thousand, seven hundred

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Speaker 1: raised of their dollar goal for the year, and that's

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Speaker 1: a year of diapers for low income, largely single mothers

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Speaker 1: in Portland. They're now almost at thousand. So please if

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Speaker 1: you go to go fund me and type in COVID

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Speaker 1: nineteen response and diaper need, you will find the go

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Speaker 1: fund me. Also, if you go to my Twitter profile

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Speaker 1: I at I write okay um okay to letters, you

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Speaker 1: will find my pinned tweet has a link to the

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Speaker 1: go fund me. So please consider donating help them out.

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Speaker 1: They could really use it. It's a good cause. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of necessary causes honest Lee right now, but UH,

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Speaker 1: poor mothers being able to provide diapers to their babies

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Speaker 1: is a good thing. It's a single problem that can

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Speaker 1: be solved by the people who listen to the show,

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Speaker 1: and that would be one less problem in the world.

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Speaker 1: So please COVID nineteen response and diaper need on go

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Speaker 1: funds me. Yeah, that's the episode. Everybody, have a good

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Speaker 1: rest of your day and wash your hands, and don't

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Speaker 1: drink bleach. Yeah, avoid avoid drinking bleach. Maybe a little bit,

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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit, maybe maybe a self you're gonna

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Speaker 1: a joke test or something coming up. I've just I

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Speaker 1: just don't do that. Motherfucker's I just get well, that's

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Speaker 1: the episode.