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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. There's a place in our world where the known

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<v Speaker 1>things go, a corridor of the mind lined with shelves

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<v Speaker 1>cluttered with proof. Inside. I've been cataloging my collection of

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<v Speaker 1>evidence about propagandists, hypnotists and conspiracy theorists, labeling reels with

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<v Speaker 1>masking tape and sharpies, organizing them by date, reel after

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<v Speaker 1>reel of tape. It's like the Nixon Oval Office in here,

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<v Speaker 1>recordings of the sorts of people we've been listening to

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<v Speaker 1>all season, episode after episode, the whole light among the world,

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<v Speaker 1>line on a man who makes his living by telling

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. I want you to keep on going back,

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<v Speaker 1>back and back, and your mindful of them wall of secrecy,

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<v Speaker 1>the news media being silent, and the pants he's locked up,

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<v Speaker 1>and the psychological profile Robert Ripley, actss Sally Maury Bernstein,

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<v Speaker 1>May Brussel Valentin zor yeah, okay, each of them asking you,

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<v Speaker 1>the listener, to doubt what you think you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>very often that doubt is delivered through the medium of radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got just one more of these voices. He's all

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<v Speaker 1>the rest, all balled up together. You are, my friends,

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<v Speaker 1>about to be exposed to the kind of bristling, cogent

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<v Speaker 1>analysis available nowhere else. Because of this, your initial reaction

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<v Speaker 1>may be shock and disbelief. That's the voice of mister

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<v Speaker 1>Rush Limbaugh. And I'm Jillipoor, host of a show that

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<v Speaker 1>could hardly be more different from the Rush Limbaugh Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Last Archive, the show about how we know,

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<v Speaker 1>what we know and why sometimes it seems lately as

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<v Speaker 1>if we don't know anything at all. Step over the

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<v Speaker 1>threshold and along the passage of time to the year

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty eight. Don't fight it, don't even try. Just

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<v Speaker 1>surrender yourself. Surrender yourself. That's his mantra, It's not mine.

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<v Speaker 1>My mantra is never surrender. What's the first thing you

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<v Speaker 1>do when you get in the car, Click the seatbelt,

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<v Speaker 1>switch on the ignition, turn on the radio. Yeah, find

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<v Speaker 1>the right station here a little there, you want their

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<v Speaker 1>dingle one Grace is Roman her car. Radios first became

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<v Speaker 1>comment in the nineteen thirties. For decades, radio was AM radio,

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<v Speaker 1>local stations, maybe with some top of the hour news

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of sports, red baseball is love. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you buy the first bank of the Bank of Sintobaty

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<v Speaker 1>or your money grows deeply in high return certificates of

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<v Speaker 1>the populo. Something else that had long been popular on

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<v Speaker 1>AM radio gospel shows, the voice of the Hour of Decision,

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Graham, So for you, for the nation, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the Hour of Decision. By the nineteen seventies, the most

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<v Speaker 1>popular AM radio shows were drivetime shows, the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>aired during your commute. Rock and Roll, hosted by fast

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<v Speaker 1>talking DJs nine O three and fourteen k on the

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<v Speaker 1>award winning a ridy rocky roll radio show with funny

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<v Speaker 1>and probic for all some of you. No doubt you're

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<v Speaker 1>wondering one award I am one. I'll tell you not

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<v Speaker 1>other than the mark warning that young buckaroo, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>young Rush Limbaugh Jeff Christie was a named radio back

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<v Speaker 1>then boy could graduate our name and claim a winner.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff royan with a East bad and also Jeff almost

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<v Speaker 1>think he's two six packs of carefree sugar list gun

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<v Speaker 1>against it all day. Limbaugh was born in Missouri. He

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<v Speaker 1>went to Southeast Missouri State University for a year, but

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<v Speaker 1>dropped out to work in radio. In nineteen seventy one,

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<v Speaker 1>he got a job as a disc jockey at an

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<v Speaker 1>AM station outside Pittsburgh, He got fired after a year

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<v Speaker 1>and a half and went to a station called KQUV

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<v Speaker 1>and Elmin made the twelve more empreys for you in

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<v Speaker 1>the Camprey Rock Conser contest. Even jack Box for tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>is two hundred and forty dollars and fourteen. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>got the guys that you can remember it. Bob the

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<v Speaker 1>Carnal makes the next call to one. Limbaugh died in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one at the age of seventy. His obituaries

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<v Speaker 1>head headlines like we're living in the world Rush Limbaugh created.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's true. But even though you may think you

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<v Speaker 1>know all ways, we now live in Rush Limbaugh's world.

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<v Speaker 1>There's more to understand, and has to do with what

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of this season has been exploring how we

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<v Speaker 1>hear voices on the radio. There were lots of testimonials

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<v Speaker 1>to Limbo after he died, but one comment really stuck

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<v Speaker 1>with me. A guy wrote on YouTube his show was

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<v Speaker 1>the only one that came in clearly, so I listened.

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<v Speaker 1>People are slinkingly started sportive way to fail the Limbaugh

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<v Speaker 1>Even when he was Jeff Christie, he was a big guy,

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<v Speaker 1>wide grin waved his hands a lot, big personality, a

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<v Speaker 1>little George Costanza meets Fred Flintstone. In nineteen seventy four,

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<v Speaker 1>he lost yet another job. He moved back home with

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<v Speaker 1>his parents in Missouri. He was twenty three. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a very tough time to try to make a career

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<v Speaker 1>in AM radio, mainly because FM radio was on the rise,

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<v Speaker 1>a faith free start, a threem or FM stereo car

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<v Speaker 1>radio sounds starting in the nineteen fifties, the era of

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis Little Richard. People bought FM radios for their houses,

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<v Speaker 1>but the FM dial only really exploded in the nineteen seventies, when,

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time, you could get FM in your car.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, AM radio was mono, just one track.

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<v Speaker 1>FM was stereo was immersive. Naturally, everyone wanted to switch

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<v Speaker 1>from plain old mono to stereo. You'd bring your car

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<v Speaker 1>into the shop and switch out your AM radio for

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<v Speaker 1>an FM radio with stereo speakers. This change in the

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<v Speaker 1>sound of radio from AM to FM would have vast

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<v Speaker 1>repercussions for the history of knowledge. A very long reverb,

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<v Speaker 1>AM radio suffered, listenership plummeted, and then so did AD revenue.

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<v Speaker 1>By nineteen eighty seven, the majority of AM radio stations

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<v Speaker 1>were no longer making a profit, and people who worked

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<v Speaker 1>at AM radio stations in the nineteen seventies were losing

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<v Speaker 1>their jobs, including in Kansas City, where Limbaugh, who'd been

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<v Speaker 1>moving from job to job, had landed. All the DJs

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<v Speaker 1>got fired. I was spared as assistant program director, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know what that meant, programming the automation machine. Limbo

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<v Speaker 1>didn't last long as an assistant program director. He took

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<v Speaker 1>a job instead with the Kansas City Royals baseball team. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>AM radio stations were beginning to figure out that if

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<v Speaker 1>they could leave music to the FM band and concentrate

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<v Speaker 1>on talk shows, they could start making money again. In

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<v Speaker 1>mono talk sounds fine, even if you might not agree

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<v Speaker 1>with what someone's saying. The simple fact matter is that

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<v Speaker 1>the homeless advocacy in this country is, I think, based

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<v Speaker 1>upon fraud. In nineteen eighty four, broadcasting under his own name,

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<v Speaker 1>Limbaugh started a new kind of talk radio show, Incremento

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<v Speaker 1>on KFBK. He pretty much invented a whole new format.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon he had a deal for national syndication. The opinions

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<v Speaker 1>expressed on the Rush Limbaugh program do not necessarily reflect

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<v Speaker 1>those of WABC Radio or its management, and now here's

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<v Speaker 1>a Rush Limbaugh. By the way, that's a gutlass disclaimer.

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<v Speaker 1>The view is expressed by the host of this show

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<v Speaker 1>ought to become federal law in the station and sponsors

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<v Speaker 1>all who heartily endorsed them. The Rush Limbaugh Show was

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<v Speaker 1>a one way wall of talk. Limbaugh was funny, he

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<v Speaker 1>was angry. His program started with a news digest, then

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<v Speaker 1>a series of opinions, mixed with calls from listeners who

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<v Speaker 1>agreed with those opinions. Here's voice now, and it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>so utterly familiar. That's because it's the voice of the

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<v Speaker 1>political YouTuber, or of a certain sort of podcaster. Brash, annoying,

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<v Speaker 1>no at all. But it was a new voice then,

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<v Speaker 1>and it spoke to listeners for three hours a day,

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<v Speaker 1>five days a week. So to give you just a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of an idea about the show, there are no

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<v Speaker 1>guests never. We don't talk about single issues or themes ever,

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<v Speaker 1>unless they evolve as the program goes. It is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much an open line discussion each end, every day. Limba

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<v Speaker 1>revolutionized radio open line. It was all him, even some

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<v Speaker 1>of the ads. At a time when human resources departments

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<v Speaker 1>were newly requiring sexual harassment training, Limbaugh spent a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of his time on air attacking feminists, especially after Anita

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<v Speaker 1>Hill accused Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment.

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<v Speaker 1>Limba made a fake ad about Feminazi trading cards. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you two glorious items, mon Anita. Trading cards have

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<v Speaker 1>always been for males only. It's just not fair, It's

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<v Speaker 1>not right, ya. I still nail post. I'm Betty Freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>Feminaz card are design the woman in mind. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>in those years my dad listening to Limbaugh. I drove

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<v Speaker 1>my mother nuts. I bet a lot of families had

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<v Speaker 1>an experience like that Limbaugh. He'd say it seemed anything,

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<v Speaker 1>so partly people tuned in for the thrill of it,

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<v Speaker 1>to hear what he'd say next. For the rest of us, though,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like getting kicked in the face every day.

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<v Speaker 1>He went after feminists. He liked him mock environmentalists, gays

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<v Speaker 1>and lesbians. He made a lot of jokes about AIDS.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite or really because of all that, Limbaugh's audience just

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<v Speaker 1>grew and grew. Mainly that audience was men, white men

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<v Speaker 1>who are angry. His angry as rush seemed to be

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<v Speaker 1>real wages for white men who had gone to college,

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<v Speaker 1>were dropping. They're still dropping. Some of these guys really

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<v Speaker 1>did have a lot to be angry about. Rush told

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<v Speaker 1>him who to be angry at. The people who loved Rush.

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<v Speaker 1>They called themselves ditto heads because they believed everything he

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<v Speaker 1>said and would say it back. Ditto Limbo's format, the

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<v Speaker 1>wall of talk push nearly everything else off talk radio,

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<v Speaker 1>all the kookie chit chat and cooking shows and carpentry

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<v Speaker 1>shows and community theater everything. Meanwhile, radio stations, which for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time had been mom and pop operations, were

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<v Speaker 1>getting bought out by giant, consolidated national and even global corporations.

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<v Speaker 1>Here I've got to disclose something about that consolidation. The

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<v Speaker 1>Rush Limbough Show was eventually syndicated by an outfit called

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<v Speaker 1>clear Channel. More recently, clear Channel rebranded itself as iHeartMedia,

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<v Speaker 1>and an arm of iHeart now sells ads for Pushkin Industries,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the production house that makes the Last Archive.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is like when the Washington Post reports on

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon and then has to mention that the Post is

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<v Speaker 1>owned by Jeff Bezos. Okay, the Last Archive is not

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<v Speaker 1>the Washington Post, and iHeart doesn't own Pushkin. But still

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to disclose these things. Limbough liked to present

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<v Speaker 1>himself as a cowboy, a rick, bold, reckless, and unpredictable.

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<v Speaker 1>In reality, he was more like the wonder bread of radio,

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<v Speaker 1>the factory made white bread of radio. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>same every goddamn day, rant, rant, rant, ad rant, rant,

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<v Speaker 1>ad rant, rant, big rant, station break rant. What he

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<v Speaker 1>was selling was his own predictability three hours a day,

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<v Speaker 1>five days a week. But the forces that had to

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<v Speaker 1>do with Limbaugh's success had to do with more than

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<v Speaker 1>just radio formats. For years, Limbaugh's fortunes rose while other

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<v Speaker 1>media's fell. Daily newspapers were going out of business. Limbaugh

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<v Speaker 1>didn't seem to mind. If you listen to this show

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<v Speaker 1>every day, you never need to read another newspaper again,

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<v Speaker 1>never read another magazine. I do it for you. When

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<v Speaker 1>you get a bonus, I tell you what to think

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<v Speaker 1>about this incredibly complicated and controversial issue. I tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what to think. And he wasn't joking. Limba presented himself

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<v Speaker 1>as a prophet liberals and feminine sees. They were heretics.

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<v Speaker 1>Limbaugh was talking politics, but his show was less like

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<v Speaker 1>a news program than like those old radio gospel shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Politics as preaching listening as worship conservatism as a new religion.

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<v Speaker 1>Scholars call this political sectarianism, and in this era, sectarianism

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<v Speaker 1>was headed to Washington at GOPACK. Our mission is to

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<v Speaker 1>gain control of the US House of Representatives. We're developing

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<v Speaker 1>a farm team of future congressional candidates. That's audio from

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<v Speaker 1>what's known as a GOPACK tape, one of the thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of tapes made by a GOP political action committee that

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<v Speaker 1>had become the mouthpiece for just one man. This is

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<v Speaker 1>congress In nud Gingrich. As a candidate. You've probably been

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<v Speaker 1>listening to tapes from GOPAC all year, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>that we've emphasized certain basic ideas and certain basic approaches.

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<v Speaker 1>Newt Gingrich, then a Congressman from Georgia. Gingridge, heard what

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<v Speaker 1>Limbaugh was doing on air and in the late nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighties started to record his own version of that format

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<v Speaker 1>through these GOP cassette tapes. If you were a Republican

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<v Speaker 1>running for office or working on a campaign, he'd probably

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<v Speaker 1>listen to these tapes in your car as cassette player.

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<v Speaker 1>In this tape, we have a speech I gave to

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<v Speaker 1>the Republicans in California. We decided to share with you

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<v Speaker 1>as an example of how you can bring all the

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<v Speaker 1>basic values together. This is the sound of modern political history,

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<v Speaker 1>shifting gears and burning out the clutch. The tapes were

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<v Speaker 1>mailed to thousands of people every month. One Republican from

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota told PBS's Frontline how crucial they were. When they

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<v Speaker 1>would come. I mean, and you spend some time in

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<v Speaker 1>a car, particularly going back and forth to the state legislature.

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<v Speaker 1>When they would come in the mail, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>would open them up right away, and I would put

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<v Speaker 1>them in a cassette player within twenty four hours. The

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of the tapes was to create a single national

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<v Speaker 1>message for a conservative insurgency, to make newt dittoheads. There

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<v Speaker 1>are two movements in America. There's a La Twing radical movement,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a common sense, practical, center right majority, the

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<v Speaker 1>basic conservatives. Let me give you an example of how

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<v Speaker 1>we think you can draw those lines. Kingridge proposed a

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<v Speaker 1>set of dualisms for candidates to use in ads. You

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<v Speaker 1>might think this kind of hyperpolarized rhetoric is more recent,

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<v Speaker 1>a product of social media maybe, but you'd be wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>We believe in locking up criminals, especially dangerous criminals, but

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<v Speaker 1>allowing honest citizen stone guns. The radical left introduced to

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<v Speaker 1>build a legalized sex with animals, but we oppose legal

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<v Speaker 1>sex with animals. In fact, frankly, we oppose any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sex with animals. In the early nineteen nineties, and

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<v Speaker 1>a memo sent out with the tapes Go Back supplied

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<v Speaker 1>candidates with a vocabulary list. It suggested words to use

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<v Speaker 1>to help to find your campaign change opportunity, legacy, challenge, control, truth, moral, courage,

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<v Speaker 1>who form, prosperity, cruci, aid, movement, children, family, debate, compete, humane, pristine, provide, liberty, commitment, duty, fair, protect, confident, incentive,

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<v Speaker 1>hard work, initiative, common sense. Gopeck also listed words to

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<v Speaker 1>use to describe your political opponents, words like sick, pathetic, liberal, lie, shallow, traitors, sensationalists,

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<v Speaker 1>in danger, coercion, hypocrisy, radical, threatened, devour, waste, corruption, incompetent, permissive, attitude, destructive, impose,

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<v Speaker 1>self serving, greed, sheet steel, abuse of power, obsolete. This

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<v Speaker 1>was political warfare on all fronts. Gingridge trained the officers,

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<v Speaker 1>Limbaugh rallied the troops. Gingridge's political power grew, and so

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<v Speaker 1>did Limbaugh's audience to round fifteen million listeners each week.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety one, Limbaugh appeared on CBS's sixty Minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you trying to do with this show? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to attract the largest audience I can and hold

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<v Speaker 1>it for as long as I can so that I

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<v Speaker 1>can charge advertisers confiscatory advertiser rates. This is a business.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in it for the money. Sure, of course, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing a lot of this for money. That's Limbaugh earning

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<v Speaker 1>points for being honest. It's also a tactic. Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>would adopt honesty about loving money. Listeners adored it. For

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<v Speaker 1>talk radio, the money came rolling in, and not just

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<v Speaker 1>for Limbaugh. Between nineteen eighty nine and nineteen ninety four,

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<v Speaker 1>an average of twenty new talk radio stations went into

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<v Speaker 1>business every month. Their shows weren't all conservative, at least

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<v Speaker 1>not at first, but soon station owners discovered that if

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<v Speaker 1>they ran only conservative talk, they had more listeners. No spots,

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<v Speaker 1>no back, no information sat Kay BBL Talk Radio, and

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<v Speaker 1>Al Springfield's favorite conservative and author of the well selling

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<v Speaker 1>book Only Turkeys, Half Left Wings, Ladies and Gentlemen, Burch Barlow.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're in the zeitgeist when you're satirized on

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<v Speaker 1>the Simpsons Good Morning, fellow freedomlikers, Burch Barlow, the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>branch of government, the fifty first State. The more famous

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<v Speaker 1>Limbaugh got, the more worried observers got, especially about how

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<v Speaker 1>he talked about talk, how he talked about the freedom

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<v Speaker 1>of speech, how he talked about fairness itself. This is

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<v Speaker 1>also a benevolent dictatorship. I am the dictator. There is

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<v Speaker 1>no First Amendment here except for me. Well right, The

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<v Speaker 1>First Amendment only constrains the government, not a privately owned

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<v Speaker 1>radio station. But for most of the twentieth century there'd

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<v Speaker 1>been some rules in place. Rules the date to a

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<v Speaker 1>time when people understood just how dangerous radio could be

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<v Speaker 1>if broadcasters became dictators. In the nineteen forties, a guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Clifford Dirr got a job offer from President Roosevelt.

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<v Speaker 1>Dirr was a lawyer from Alabama. He's best known to

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<v Speaker 1>history for something he did much later in the nineteen fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>when he and his wife bailed Rosa Parks out of jail. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen forty one, Fdr appointed dir to the Federal

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<v Speaker 1>Communications Commission the FCC. Point in the head of is

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<v Speaker 1>that the FCC is the federal agency that regulates who

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<v Speaker 1>can get broadcast licenses to use the airwaves, which after

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<v Speaker 1>all belonged to the public. I want the FCC onknew

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely nothing about it, but at the time we will

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<v Speaker 1>mother fret all the actress broadcasts. I did an episode

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this season called The Inner Front. It talks about

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<v Speaker 1>how the US government monitored Radio Berlin and Radio Tokyo.

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<v Speaker 1>That was part of the FCC's job during the Second

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<v Speaker 1>World War, but the content of those enemy broadcasts really

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<v Speaker 1>changed how dr and the FCC thought about the power

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<v Speaker 1>of radio. Oh my god, this is a terrific medium.

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<v Speaker 1>The other can be magnificent or it can completely ruin

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<v Speaker 1>you if you get this thing in their long hands.

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<v Speaker 1>So then add again to take a more closer look

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<v Speaker 1>at an American broadcast. The FCC started enforcing some rules

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<v Speaker 1>that were on the books but that have been mostly ignored,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dur's influence would lead to a new rule to

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<v Speaker 1>would shape broadcasting for the next half century. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine, the FCC established what became known as the

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<v Speaker 1>Fairness Doctrine. Under the American system of broadcasting, the individual

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<v Speaker 1>licensees of radio stations have the responsibility for determining the

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<v Speaker 1>specific program material to be broadcast over their stations, so

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<v Speaker 1>you could broadcast whatever you wanted. Except This choice, however,

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<v Speaker 1>must be exercised in a manner consistent with the basic

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<v Speaker 1>policy of the Congress that radio being maintained as a

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<v Speaker 1>medium of free speech for the general public as a whole,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than as an outlet for the purely personal or

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<v Speaker 1>private interests of the licensee. The fairness doctrine is about

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<v Speaker 1>the public interest. It says the government has an interest

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<v Speaker 1>in what radio stations broadcast. It says that on the

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<v Speaker 1>issues of the day, radio stations have to broadcast more

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<v Speaker 1>than one view. This requires that licensees to vote a

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable percentage of their broadcast time to the discussion of

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<v Speaker 1>public issues of interest in the community served by their stations,

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<v Speaker 1>and that such programs be designed so that the public

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<v Speaker 1>has a reasonable opportunity to hear different opposition positions. In

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen sixties, the fairness doctrine was strengthened by way

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<v Speaker 1>of Congressional action, and the Johnson administration added a guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>for a right of reply after a criticism during a broadcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't often enforced, but it did happen sometimes like

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<v Speaker 1>when Medgar Evers once got seventeen minutes of airtime to

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<v Speaker 1>respond to criticism of the NAACP, or once when conservatives

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<v Speaker 1>attacked Kennedy's proposed nuclear test band treaty, stations were required

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<v Speaker 1>to play a protest band speech by the President himself.

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<v Speaker 1>This was exactly the kind of thing that ticked conservatives off.

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<v Speaker 1>Rules that required listeners to hear more from Edgar Evers

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<v Speaker 1>hear more from President Kennedy. All mankind has been struggling

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<v Speaker 1>to escape from the dokening prospect of mass destruction on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen sixty nine, the Supreme Court affirmed much of

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<v Speaker 1>the fairness doctrine, but conservatives are getting more and more

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<v Speaker 1>peeved about it, believing that the fairness Doctrine suppressed conservative views.

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<v Speaker 1>By the nineteen eighties, they really wanted to get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and it was vulnerable because it was a regulation,

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<v Speaker 1>not a law. In nineteen eighty five, a new FCC

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<v Speaker 1>head appointed by President Reagan said he would fight to

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<v Speaker 1>end the fairness Doctrine. Two years later, in a bipartisan vote,

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<v Speaker 1>Congress a bill that would have established the doctrine as law,

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<v Speaker 1>but Reagan vetoed it and Congress didn't have the votes

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<v Speaker 1>to override his veto. The doctrine was dead, and now

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<v Speaker 1>here's Rice Limbaugh. Limbaugh could not have operated if the

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<v Speaker 1>fairness doctrine had still been in place, at least not

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<v Speaker 1>without worrying that the FCC might come after him because

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<v Speaker 1>he used his airtime to promote partisanship. In fact, he

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<v Speaker 1>was more than a partisan. Limbaugh wanted to be a kingmaker.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety two, after his preferred candidate, Pat Buchanan

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<v Speaker 1>failed to win the nomination, Limbaugh stumped for George Bush, Senior.

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<v Speaker 1>But when Bush lost to Bill Clinton, Limbaugh sounded a

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<v Speaker 1>battle cry. He made it his mission to take down

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<v Speaker 1>the Clintons, both of them. The Clintons are running around

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<v Speaker 1>on this national tour. Now, you know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how else to say this. I mean, the president gets

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<v Speaker 1>away when he says something it isn't true later being

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<v Speaker 1>told about, Oh yeah, I was an inadvertent statement. The

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<v Speaker 1>motto of this administration every day is what can we

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<v Speaker 1>do to fool them today? Bill Clinton for sure did

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes lie, no question, but fooling people was not the

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<v Speaker 1>motto of his administration. Clinton got exasperated. You can hear

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<v Speaker 1>him on Saint Louis am radio practically begging for a

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<v Speaker 1>right of reply after I get off the radio today

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<v Speaker 1>with you, Russ Lamball have three hours to say whatever

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<v Speaker 1>he wants, and I won't have any opportunity to respond.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's no truth detector. You won't get on afterward

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<v Speaker 1>and say what was true and what was In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety three, Democrats in Congress tried to bring back the

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<v Speaker 1>fairness doctrine. Limbaugh like to call their effort the hush

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<v Speaker 1>Rush Bill, but other people on talk radio didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>it that way. I'm a proponent of the fairness doctrine.

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<v Speaker 1>That's longtime radio and television host Larry King in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety three. I like it. I like the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>we as broadcasters have to be fair. It is not

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<v Speaker 1>out to get any broadcast I know Rush Limbaugh thinks

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<v Speaker 1>they're out to get them. All it means is that

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<v Speaker 1>a station who has if you have eight right wing hosts,

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<v Speaker 1>you better put some left wing hosts on. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what's wrong with that, but the fairness doctrine was

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<v Speaker 1>not reinstated, and in nineteen ninety four, in the midterm elections,

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans flipped the Senate and the House. It was a wipeout.

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<v Speaker 1>They took ten governorships, they won state legislatures. They elected

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<v Speaker 1>Newt Kingbridge Speaker of the House. The Freshman Republicans in

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<v Speaker 1>the House named Rush Limbaugh an honorary member of their class,

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<v Speaker 1>and he went to Capitol Hill where he was besieged

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<v Speaker 1>by reporters asking him how talk radio had led the

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<v Speaker 1>Conservatives to victory. These reporters who asked me questions about

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<v Speaker 1>talk radio were all trying to say, in a roundabout way,

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<v Speaker 1>that I took a bunch of brainless people and converted

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<v Speaker 1>them to mind numbed robots, and every day would send

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<v Speaker 1>out code in my show that would force them to

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<v Speaker 1>march to the polls on November the eighth of the

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<v Speaker 1>poll the lever I wanted them to pull. Listening to

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<v Speaker 1>Limbaugh's speech to the Freshman Republican members of the House,

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<v Speaker 1>you can hear them giggling as Limbaugh turned to a

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<v Speaker 1>new topic, reports of secret meetings that Bill and Hillary

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton were holding in the White House about me. They're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to come up with a liberal version of me.

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<v Speaker 1>They're scouring America looking for some liberal host who can

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<v Speaker 1>automatically end up on six hundred and sixty radio stations.

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<v Speaker 1>They think that they can just pluck some liberal out

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<v Speaker 1>of the sky and put him on the radio and

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<v Speaker 1>create a bunch of liberal mind numb robots. Point taken

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<v Speaker 1>Limbo's listeners, any listeners weren't mind numbed robots. But remember

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<v Speaker 1>he asked his listeners to surrender to his point of view,

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<v Speaker 1>and millions of them did just that. You might not

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<v Speaker 1>like the fairness doctrine. You might want some other sort

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<v Speaker 1>of guidelines or mechanisms in place, you might want none

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<v Speaker 1>at all. But whatever your view, you've still got to

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<v Speaker 1>wrestle with this fact. A democracy can't really work if

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<v Speaker 1>people only listened to one kind of political opinion all day,

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<v Speaker 1>every day. Limbo was right about one thing, though, in

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<v Speaker 1>this era with the fairness doctrine dead, some people really

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<v Speaker 1>were looking for a liberal version of him, not someone

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<v Speaker 1>who would hush rush, someone who would crush rush any

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<v Speaker 1>welcome the Al Franken Show. I'm Al Franken. The left

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<v Speaker 1>answer to Rush Limbo would be for a while, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy Alan Stuart Franken, a comedian best known at the

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<v Speaker 1>time for his work on Saturday Night Live. Franken had

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<v Speaker 1>written a book called Rush Limbo is a Big, fat

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<v Speaker 1>Idiot and Other observations. He came out in nineteen ninety six.

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<v Speaker 1>The audiobook version gives you an idea of Franken's vibe

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. I thought the title, aside from the

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<v Speaker 1>obvious advantage of being personally offensive to Limbaugh, would sell books.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me explain why it makes fun of Rush Limbaugh

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<v Speaker 1>by pointing out that he's a big lard butt. Franken

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<v Speaker 1>told he wanted to be Limbaugh's kryptonite. If Rush Limbaugh

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<v Speaker 1>were to write a book about you, or would its

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<v Speaker 1>title be The Guy who got me, the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>held me accountable, the guy who nailed my ass. Franken

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<v Speaker 1>owned his comedy style deadpan, a bit obnoxious, part smart alec,

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<v Speaker 1>part frat boy. Here he is talking to an audience

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<v Speaker 1>of college students. What I do is in propaganda. What

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<v Speaker 1>I do is taking what they say and using it

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<v Speaker 1>against them. What I do is jiu jitsu. They say

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<v Speaker 1>something ridiculous, and then I subject them to scorn and ridicule.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my job. Franken had a lot in common with Limbaugh.

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<v Speaker 1>They were both born in nineteen fifty one, They're both

0:29:01.436 --> 0:29:04.516
<v Speaker 1>from the Middle of the country. Limbo's from Missouri, Franken

0:29:04.556 --> 0:29:08.276
<v Speaker 1>grew up in Minnesota. They both loved to perform. Then

0:29:08.316 --> 0:29:11.756
<v Speaker 1>there are the difference. Limbaugh dropped out of college, Franken

0:29:11.796 --> 0:29:15.476
<v Speaker 1>graduated from Harvard. The same year that Franken published Rushed

0:29:15.476 --> 0:29:18.316
<v Speaker 1>Limbaugh as a big fat Idiot, a new cable television

0:29:18.356 --> 0:29:23.436
<v Speaker 1>network started up, Fox News. Its motto was fair and balanced.

0:29:28.516 --> 0:29:31.116
<v Speaker 1>This was the cable TV version of stuff that Limbaugh

0:29:31.116 --> 0:29:35.676
<v Speaker 1>and Gingrich had pioneered. Really, you can put everything on

0:29:35.716 --> 0:29:38.516
<v Speaker 1>early Fox News into one of two bins. The first

0:29:38.596 --> 0:29:42.996
<v Speaker 1>labeled Limbaugh, the second labeled Gingridge. The courser stuff Limbaugh,

0:29:43.436 --> 0:29:46.676
<v Speaker 1>the more professory stuff Gingridge. But it was all the

0:29:46.716 --> 0:29:50.236
<v Speaker 1>same in the end, lots of opinion monologus getting viewers

0:29:50.276 --> 0:29:56.676
<v Speaker 1>to distrust other sources of information, rewriting American history. Meanwhile,

0:29:56.796 --> 0:30:01.596
<v Speaker 1>talk radio was getting harsher, meaner, more vulgar. Limbaugh did

0:30:01.636 --> 0:30:05.916
<v Speaker 1>a lot of schoolyard name calling. He called MSNBC p MSNBC.

0:30:06.276 --> 0:30:10.036
<v Speaker 1>He called US News and World Report, US snooze, Meet

0:30:10.076 --> 0:30:14.636
<v Speaker 1>the press, meet the depressed. Things got darker in nineteen

0:30:14.756 --> 0:30:17.876
<v Speaker 1>ninety eight, when the Monica Lewinsky scandal drove ratings through

0:30:17.916 --> 0:30:21.076
<v Speaker 1>the roof, both for Fox News and for talk radio.

0:30:21.676 --> 0:30:29.796
<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton got caught jump legant turn Monica Lewinsky the

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<v Speaker 1>blue stand dress. All this time, and especially after nine

0:30:35.396 --> 0:30:38.396
<v Speaker 1>to eleven, a lot of liberals were still wishing there

0:30:38.436 --> 0:30:41.916
<v Speaker 1>was a liberal Limbaugh, So they started a new radio

0:30:41.996 --> 0:30:46.436
<v Speaker 1>network called Air America. Air America would launch all kinds

0:30:46.436 --> 0:30:51.556
<v Speaker 1>of careers, including Rachel Maddows. Before joining MSNBC, she had

0:30:51.556 --> 0:30:54.716
<v Speaker 1>her own Air America show. Al Franken came to Air

0:30:54.756 --> 0:30:58.676
<v Speaker 1>America from the USO. He'd been going on tours entertaining

0:30:58.676 --> 0:31:02.116
<v Speaker 1>the troops overseas Bob Hopestyle. He saw that work as

0:31:02.116 --> 0:31:04.036
<v Speaker 1>a chance to show that right wingers didn't have a

0:31:04.116 --> 0:31:08.116
<v Speaker 1>monopoly on patriotism. Franken, like all of Air America, had

0:31:08.156 --> 0:31:11.716
<v Speaker 1>the idea that left radio would offer listeners the opposition

0:31:11.756 --> 0:31:15.116
<v Speaker 1>positions that the fairness doctrine would have required if it

0:31:15.156 --> 0:31:17.516
<v Speaker 1>had still been in place, so he didn't put it

0:31:17.516 --> 0:31:24.476
<v Speaker 1>in such lofty terms. It's about answering these fuckheads that

0:31:24.596 --> 0:31:31.236
<v Speaker 1>have been on the air and lyon and delivering this simplistic,

0:31:31.596 --> 0:31:35.796
<v Speaker 1>black and white babble about how the world works, as

0:31:35.876 --> 0:31:38.996
<v Speaker 1>if they know something, and they have built this infrastructure

0:31:39.716 --> 0:31:50.716
<v Speaker 1>of feeding people misinformation about about economic justice and about

0:31:50.716 --> 0:31:55.476
<v Speaker 1>how our society is run. And it's about time that

0:31:55.676 --> 0:32:10.036
<v Speaker 1>somebody fought back to talk about the ride wings dishonesty.

0:32:10.956 --> 0:32:13.756
<v Speaker 1>Franken launched his own Air America radio show in two

0:32:13.756 --> 0:32:17.796
<v Speaker 1>thousand and four. He delivered something surprising, an old fashioned

0:32:17.876 --> 0:32:20.956
<v Speaker 1>variety show sort of Marx Brothers, but about politics with

0:32:21.076 --> 0:32:26.156
<v Speaker 1>lots of skits. Shall brought to you by the Union

0:32:26.276 --> 0:32:30.596
<v Speaker 1>of Jewish Archaeologists. We look at fossils of early man

0:32:30.716 --> 0:32:36.556
<v Speaker 1>and asked was this a jill? What Al Franken was

0:32:36.596 --> 0:32:39.676
<v Speaker 1>doing was different from anything else on the air. Mostly

0:32:39.716 --> 0:32:42.876
<v Speaker 1>though it was different from the Rush Limbaugh Show. Everything

0:32:42.876 --> 0:32:46.116
<v Speaker 1>about Franken show was designed an opposition to Limbaugh's show.

0:32:46.636 --> 0:32:50.636
<v Speaker 1>Unlike Limbaugh, who only had guests occasionally, franken show featured them,

0:32:51.116 --> 0:32:54.676
<v Speaker 1>and unlike Limbaugh, Franken invited calls from people who disagreed

0:32:54.716 --> 0:32:58.596
<v Speaker 1>with him. When Franken did monologues, he often got serious.

0:32:58.996 --> 0:33:02.316
<v Speaker 1>In the early sixties, we'd watch TV. We watched news,

0:33:02.476 --> 0:33:05.316
<v Speaker 1>rare TV trays in there, watched the news. We'd see

0:33:05.836 --> 0:33:11.516
<v Speaker 1>Southern sheriff's sicking police dogs on black demonstrators. My dad

0:33:11.556 --> 0:33:13.996
<v Speaker 1>so that no Jew can be for that. The most

0:33:13.996 --> 0:33:16.956
<v Speaker 1>important part of franken show came when he fact checked

0:33:16.956 --> 0:33:20.036
<v Speaker 1>the Rush Limbaugh Show. How many people listen to him?

0:33:20.116 --> 0:33:23.556
<v Speaker 1>Fifteen twenty million, right, right, right? Okay, so those people

0:33:23.676 --> 0:33:26.996
<v Speaker 1>believe him, right, yeah, okay, so most of his listeners

0:33:27.076 --> 0:33:30.876
<v Speaker 1>believe is seventy five percent people making minimum wage are

0:33:31.876 --> 0:33:34.756
<v Speaker 1>teenagers in their first job. I had our staff look

0:33:34.796 --> 0:33:37.956
<v Speaker 1>at up. Sixty one point one percent of people earning

0:33:37.956 --> 0:33:40.436
<v Speaker 1>minimum wage are twenty or over. You know, we got

0:33:40.436 --> 0:33:43.796
<v Speaker 1>our statistics from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and he

0:33:43.876 --> 0:33:47.756
<v Speaker 1>got it from the Bureau of Limbaugh's butt. Franken put

0:33:47.756 --> 0:33:50.396
<v Speaker 1>on a good show, but Air America turned out to

0:33:50.396 --> 0:33:54.636
<v Speaker 1>be a disaster. The company was underfunded, badly run, beset

0:33:54.676 --> 0:33:58.676
<v Speaker 1>five financial mismanagement and scandal. Also, the audience for Al

0:33:58.756 --> 0:34:01.076
<v Speaker 1>Franken's show never got above a million and a half

0:34:01.076 --> 0:34:03.996
<v Speaker 1>weekly listeners, just a tiny fraction of the audience of

0:34:04.036 --> 0:34:07.516
<v Speaker 1>the Rush Limbo Show. There are lots of theories about

0:34:07.556 --> 0:34:10.156
<v Speaker 1>why left wing radio failed. One of them is that

0:34:10.196 --> 0:34:13.036
<v Speaker 1>liberals would rather listen to something more thoughtful and temperate

0:34:13.156 --> 0:34:16.956
<v Speaker 1>like NPR. But then again, liberals flocked to Comedy Central,

0:34:17.196 --> 0:34:20.356
<v Speaker 1>where John Stuart's Daily Show and The Colbert Report were

0:34:20.476 --> 0:34:22.836
<v Speaker 1>very much in the mold of Air America, so I

0:34:22.876 --> 0:34:26.396
<v Speaker 1>tend to think the problem was the company. Franken jumped

0:34:26.436 --> 0:34:29.516
<v Speaker 1>ship before the ship sank. In two thousand and seven,

0:34:29.716 --> 0:34:32.556
<v Speaker 1>he went off the air and announced his run for

0:34:32.636 --> 0:34:35.836
<v Speaker 1>a Senate seat from Minnesota. Two thousand and eight was

0:34:35.876 --> 0:34:41.396
<v Speaker 1>a wild election year. Barack Obama was seeking the Democratic nomination,

0:34:41.796 --> 0:34:44.916
<v Speaker 1>and after he defeated Hillary Clinton, he made his historic

0:34:44.996 --> 0:34:49.116
<v Speaker 1>bid for the presidency. Rush Limbah turned the fire hose

0:34:49.156 --> 0:34:52.596
<v Speaker 1>of his fury from the Clintons to the Obama's. He

0:34:52.676 --> 0:34:55.836
<v Speaker 1>played on air a song called Barack the Magic Negro.

0:34:57.356 --> 0:35:00.036
<v Speaker 1>Obama decided to let that pass, which is likely why

0:35:00.076 --> 0:35:04.076
<v Speaker 1>you've never heard of it. Obama won in something close

0:35:04.116 --> 0:35:07.156
<v Speaker 1>to a landslide, and Al Franken became the new Senator

0:35:07.236 --> 0:35:12.436
<v Speaker 1>from Minnesota. In Franken's comedic personality evaporated. He was mostly

0:35:12.436 --> 0:35:17.716
<v Speaker 1>known for being pretty reasonable, quiet, and hard working. In

0:35:17.756 --> 0:35:21.996
<v Speaker 1>addition to providing some budgetary certainty for the next two years,

0:35:22.076 --> 0:35:25.676
<v Speaker 1>the budget deal undoes some of the extreme across the

0:35:25.796 --> 0:35:29.996
<v Speaker 1>board cuts of the sequester that will enable us to

0:35:30.116 --> 0:35:33.756
<v Speaker 1>make more In twenty fourteen, Franken won reelection to the Senate,

0:35:34.116 --> 0:35:37.436
<v Speaker 1>he was sort of a non story. Meanwhile, Rush Limbaugh's

0:35:37.476 --> 0:35:41.276
<v Speaker 1>tirades grew louder and louder all through Obama's two terms

0:35:41.276 --> 0:35:45.956
<v Speaker 1>in office. Limbaugh urged obstructionism, the rejection of all compromise.

0:35:54.036 --> 0:35:59.796
<v Speaker 1>Let's say, as conservatives liberals demand that we be bipartisan

0:36:00.476 --> 0:36:04.596
<v Speaker 1>with them in Congress. What they mean is we check

0:36:04.636 --> 0:36:07.076
<v Speaker 1>our core principles at the door, come and let them

0:36:07.156 --> 0:36:08.756
<v Speaker 1>run the show, and then agree with them. That's my

0:36:08.836 --> 0:36:12.316
<v Speaker 1>part ship to them. Okay, I've got to stop the tape.

0:36:12.356 --> 0:36:14.956
<v Speaker 1>I am so sick of this. Al Franken, when he

0:36:14.996 --> 0:36:16.996
<v Speaker 1>was writing that book about Limbaugh, said it took a

0:36:16.996 --> 0:36:18.756
<v Speaker 1>real toll on him to have to listen to this

0:36:18.796 --> 0:36:22.396
<v Speaker 1>guy all the time. I feel that it's like reading

0:36:22.436 --> 0:36:25.996
<v Speaker 1>hate mail. To be honest, I find listening to Al

0:36:26.116 --> 0:36:30.196
<v Speaker 1>Franken pretty grading. Two. But when you're researching a historical development,

0:36:30.596 --> 0:36:34.716
<v Speaker 1>you don't choose the evidence. You enjoy. Your job is

0:36:34.756 --> 0:36:38.916
<v Speaker 1>to listen to all of it. To us, by partisanship

0:36:39.716 --> 0:36:42.196
<v Speaker 1>is them being forced to agree with us after we

0:36:42.316 --> 0:36:46.796
<v Speaker 1>have politically cleaned their clocks and beaten them. And that

0:36:46.836 --> 0:37:05.956
<v Speaker 1>has to be what you're fuck is wrong. In two,

0:37:05.996 --> 0:37:09.916
<v Speaker 1>thou and sixteen, Hillary Clinton was running for president against

0:37:09.956 --> 0:37:14.756
<v Speaker 1>a new opponent. Politicians are all talk and no action.

0:37:16.156 --> 0:37:19.596
<v Speaker 1>That year, Al Franken spoke at the Democratic Convention, still

0:37:19.716 --> 0:37:29.396
<v Speaker 1>fighting the far right. I'm Al Franken, Minnesota Senator and

0:37:29.636 --> 0:37:40.516
<v Speaker 1>world renowned expert on right wing megalomaniacs, Roch Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly,

0:37:41.236 --> 0:37:46.156
<v Speaker 1>and now Donald Trump. And that was the right genealogy

0:37:46.596 --> 0:37:50.596
<v Speaker 1>Limbaugh made Trump possible. Trump's whole alone can fix it.

0:37:50.676 --> 0:37:54.156
<v Speaker 1>Thing that was straight Limbaugh. The style of followership that

0:37:54.236 --> 0:37:58.236
<v Speaker 1>Limbaugh cultivated, those ditto heads that became Trump is um,

0:37:58.396 --> 0:38:02.996
<v Speaker 1>those schoolyard insults straight Limbaugh. All this led the political

0:38:02.996 --> 0:38:07.636
<v Speaker 1>outsider Trump to an unexpected victory. But long after Trump won,

0:38:07.956 --> 0:38:11.996
<v Speaker 1>Limbaugh remained fixed. Stated on the outgoing president, the first

0:38:12.036 --> 0:38:17.316
<v Speaker 1>moment that Trump does anything that he is the unraveling

0:38:17.316 --> 0:38:19.756
<v Speaker 1>of an Obama agenda item. Obama is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>on TV. Hey you I won't go on TV. I'll

0:38:22.956 --> 0:38:28.356
<v Speaker 1>glad you're exclusive Trump. Trump's about to destroy Obama. I

0:38:28.476 --> 0:38:32.556
<v Speaker 1>find Limbaugh's prediction super revealing because of how wrong it was, Because,

0:38:32.596 --> 0:38:34.996
<v Speaker 1>of course, Obama did not go on television and damn

0:38:35.036 --> 0:38:38.716
<v Speaker 1>Trump's every move. Instead, Obama kept quiet for pretty much

0:38:38.756 --> 0:38:42.436
<v Speaker 1>all four years of Trump's administration. Obama played by old

0:38:42.516 --> 0:38:46.436
<v Speaker 1>school rules. The ex president steps out of politics, the

0:38:46.556 --> 0:38:49.996
<v Speaker 1>rules that every other American president of whatever party had

0:38:50.036 --> 0:38:54.396
<v Speaker 1>played by from the beginning. Limbaugh, though, seemed no longer

0:38:54.476 --> 0:39:01.276
<v Speaker 1>able to imagine that anyone still played by rules. Twenty

0:39:01.316 --> 0:39:04.316
<v Speaker 1>first century political warfare is a battle for truth, people

0:39:04.396 --> 0:39:07.236
<v Speaker 1>like to say, But more and more, I think it

0:39:07.316 --> 0:39:10.716
<v Speaker 1>has been a battle about doubt. Well, leave only me

0:39:11.516 --> 0:39:15.276
<v Speaker 1>doubt everyone else. Rush Limbaugh said he was the voice

0:39:15.276 --> 0:39:19.796
<v Speaker 1>of America. Al Franken tried to fact check him. Then

0:39:19.956 --> 0:39:23.516
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump said he was the voice of America, and

0:39:23.716 --> 0:39:28.036
<v Speaker 1>then all hell broke loose. You can do anything whatever

0:39:28.036 --> 0:39:34.556
<v Speaker 1>you want. I could do anything. After the Access Hollywood

0:39:34.596 --> 0:39:38.076
<v Speaker 1>tape came out just before the twenty sixteen election, Trump

0:39:38.196 --> 0:39:41.796
<v Speaker 1>said it was just locker room talk. I've been in

0:39:41.836 --> 0:39:45.036
<v Speaker 1>a lot of locker rooms. That's Al Franken on Late

0:39:45.156 --> 0:39:48.716
<v Speaker 1>Night with Seth Myers. I you know, I belong to

0:39:48.756 --> 0:39:52.916
<v Speaker 1>a health club in Minneapolis. I think you can tell. Yeah,

0:39:52.996 --> 0:40:00.236
<v Speaker 1>we can tell. And our locker room banter is stuff

0:40:00.276 --> 0:40:06.956
<v Speaker 1>like is Trump crazy? In the end, though, one politician

0:40:06.996 --> 0:40:09.036
<v Speaker 1>who would be brought down for Trump sins would be

0:40:10.356 --> 0:40:16.996
<v Speaker 1>Al Franken. In twenty seventeen, a conservative talk radio host

0:40:17.396 --> 0:40:20.996
<v Speaker 1>named Leanne Tweeden went on the air at KBC in

0:40:21.156 --> 0:40:25.716
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles with a bomb show, who is your abuser,

0:40:27.636 --> 0:40:30.796
<v Speaker 1>Senator Al Franken. It was in two thousand and six.

0:40:31.796 --> 0:40:35.156
<v Speaker 1>We were going on a USO tour. He gave me

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<v Speaker 1>the script and you know, it was full of sexual innuendos,

0:40:39.396 --> 0:40:41.476
<v Speaker 1>and it was supposed to be funny, you know. Tweeden

0:40:41.556 --> 0:40:43.716
<v Speaker 1>told the story of how back in two thousand and six,

0:40:44.036 --> 0:40:47.116
<v Speaker 1>she and Franken had been together in Kuwait backstage had

0:40:47.156 --> 0:40:51.036
<v Speaker 1>a USO tour, rehearsing for the show, and he matches

0:40:51.076 --> 0:40:53.196
<v Speaker 1>his mouth up against mine and he sticks his tongue

0:40:53.196 --> 0:40:56.596
<v Speaker 1>in my mouth and as it happens, it happens so fast,

0:40:56.676 --> 0:40:58.476
<v Speaker 1>and he puts his tongue in my mouth and his

0:40:58.636 --> 0:41:01.716
<v Speaker 1>mouth is just wet and slimy. I was violated. I

0:41:01.836 --> 0:41:04.836
<v Speaker 1>was disgusted. That's not what I was expecting. All I

0:41:04.876 --> 0:41:07.316
<v Speaker 1>could think about was that's what you wrote that in

0:41:07.436 --> 0:41:10.476
<v Speaker 1>the script for, so you could do that to me. Also,

0:41:10.836 --> 0:41:13.916
<v Speaker 1>there was a cringey photo. A photo has surfaced today

0:41:14.036 --> 0:41:17.036
<v Speaker 1>showing Tweeden asleep on the flight back home and it

0:41:17.116 --> 0:41:22.996
<v Speaker 1>reveals Franken groping her. Franken apologized sort of vaguely, but

0:41:23.116 --> 0:41:27.196
<v Speaker 1>then seven other women made accusations against him, mostly about

0:41:27.276 --> 0:41:32.636
<v Speaker 1>unwanted touching. Pressured by his Democratic Senate colleagues, Franken resigned.

0:41:33.156 --> 0:41:36.796
<v Speaker 1>His speech on the Senate floor was bitter. I have

0:41:37.036 --> 0:41:41.836
<v Speaker 1>all people am aware that there is some irony in

0:41:41.996 --> 0:41:45.956
<v Speaker 1>the fact that I am leaving while a man who

0:41:46.116 --> 0:41:50.796
<v Speaker 1>is bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault

0:41:50.956 --> 0:41:54.556
<v Speaker 1>sits in the Oval office. When the New Yorkers Jane

0:41:54.596 --> 0:41:58.796
<v Speaker 1>Mayre reinvestigated the case, Franken told her that he regretted resigning.

0:41:59.516 --> 0:42:02.396
<v Speaker 1>Seven current and former senators who urged him to resign

0:42:02.476 --> 0:42:06.236
<v Speaker 1>said they regretted it too. His mayor told NPR there

0:42:06.276 --> 0:42:10.516
<v Speaker 1>were holes in Tweeden's story. She had ever been subjected

0:42:10.556 --> 0:42:14.156
<v Speaker 1>to any fact checking. She had never produced any corroborators.

0:42:14.316 --> 0:42:17.516
<v Speaker 1>And I spoke to eight people on that USO tour

0:42:18.276 --> 0:42:20.396
<v Speaker 1>who had no political ACHENDA. Most of them were in

0:42:20.436 --> 0:42:22.996
<v Speaker 1>the military, and they were right there and they just

0:42:23.196 --> 0:42:27.636
<v Speaker 1>didn't say a woy she saw it. As mayor pointed out,

0:42:27.956 --> 0:42:31.276
<v Speaker 1>Leanne Tweeden claimed Franken wrote the controversial skit in two

0:42:31.356 --> 0:42:35.356
<v Speaker 1>thousand and six for her but in fact, and this

0:42:35.516 --> 0:42:38.436
<v Speaker 1>is indisputable he wrote it in two thousand and three.

0:42:39.316 --> 0:42:42.996
<v Speaker 1>Other actresses had played that same role, but something else

0:42:43.116 --> 0:42:46.476
<v Speaker 1>was lost in the frenzy around Tweeden's allegations. Her employer,

0:42:46.676 --> 0:42:50.316
<v Speaker 1>k ABC is a conservative talk radio station. Tweeden is

0:42:50.356 --> 0:42:53.596
<v Speaker 1>a radio personality in the style of Rush Limbaugh, and

0:42:53.756 --> 0:42:55.996
<v Speaker 1>k ABC did not reach out to get a comment

0:42:56.076 --> 0:42:59.916
<v Speaker 1>from al Franken about Tweeden's accusations before airing them because

0:42:59.956 --> 0:43:02.756
<v Speaker 1>a right to reply that was a rule that dated

0:43:02.956 --> 0:43:06.636
<v Speaker 1>to the forgotten era of the fairness doctrine. I'm not

0:43:06.716 --> 0:43:09.916
<v Speaker 1>saying Al Franken is the hero of the story. He's not,

0:43:10.716 --> 0:43:14.516
<v Speaker 1>but he isn't the villain either. Hyperpolarized politics will always

0:43:14.596 --> 0:43:19.276
<v Speaker 1>tend to dualism, good versus evil. The error of the

0:43:19.436 --> 0:43:22.556
<v Speaker 1>left is that it keeps joining this game of mayhem

0:43:22.996 --> 0:43:30.436
<v Speaker 1>instead of restoring the rules. In February of twenty twenty,

0:43:30.756 --> 0:43:33.916
<v Speaker 1>during his State of the Union address, Donald Trump awarded

0:43:33.996 --> 0:43:38.476
<v Speaker 1>Rush Limbaugh the nation's highest civilian honor, the Presidential Medal

0:43:38.596 --> 0:43:43.756
<v Speaker 1>of Freedom. Here tonight is a special man beloved by

0:43:43.836 --> 0:43:49.076
<v Speaker 1>millions of Americans, who just received a Stage four advanced

0:43:49.236 --> 0:43:54.636
<v Speaker 1>cancer diagnosis. This is not good news. But what is

0:43:54.716 --> 0:43:57.756
<v Speaker 1>good news is that he is the greatest fighter and

0:43:57.876 --> 0:44:02.036
<v Speaker 1>winner that you will ever meet. Limbaugh was dying of

0:44:02.156 --> 0:44:06.036
<v Speaker 1>lung cancer. Al Franken was wandering in the political wilderness.

0:44:07.076 --> 0:44:10.796
<v Speaker 1>All that year, Trump and Limb kept saying that Democrats

0:44:10.836 --> 0:44:14.076
<v Speaker 1>were going to steal the twenty twenty election, but stealing

0:44:14.116 --> 0:44:17.836
<v Speaker 1>elections was a go pack golden oldie, a two knute

0:44:17.836 --> 0:44:22.196
<v Speaker 1>Gingridge had played back in nineteen eighty eight. They're gonna

0:44:22.236 --> 0:44:24.996
<v Speaker 1>buy a registration, They're gonna buy votes, They're gonna turn

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<v Speaker 1>out votes, They're gonna steal votes. They're gonna do anything

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<v Speaker 1>they can. Now you have to understand that, stop the steal,

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<v Speaker 1>Gingridge said in nineteen eighty eight, and by twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>he was saying it all over again. Two days after

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<v Speaker 1>the election, no one should be of any doubt. You

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<v Speaker 1>are watching an effort to steal the presidency. Ansis Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden won, but Donald Trump refused to concede. Then two

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<v Speaker 1>months later, on January sixth, the next episode of The

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<v Speaker 1>Last Archive, I'll go paddling down the many rovers of

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<v Speaker 1>doubt that dumped us into this sea of political gadab astrophe,

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<v Speaker 1>the day when supporters of a defeated president rioted inside

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<v Speaker 1>the nation's capital. But for now, I'll just say this.

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<v Speaker 1>Against this backdrop of murder and mayhem, some pillars of

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<v Speaker 1>right wing media began to crumble. A corporation that owns

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<v Speaker 1>talk radio stations across the country ordered its hosts to

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<v Speaker 1>stop saying the election was stolen and told them instead

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<v Speaker 1>to induce national calm. Now, Rush Limbo, though he was

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<v Speaker 1>having none of it. There's a lot of people calling

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<v Speaker 1>for the end of violence. There's a lot of conservatives

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<v Speaker 1>social media who say that any violence or aggression at

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<v Speaker 1>all is unacceptable, regardless of the circumstances. I'm glad Sam Adams,

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Payne, the actual Tea Party guys the minute Lexington

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<v Speaker 1>and Conquered didn't feel that way. Rush Limbaugh died six

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<v Speaker 1>weeks after that broadcast. The King of AM Radio left

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<v Speaker 1>behind in America more bewildered and angry than ever, the

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<v Speaker 1>nation split by a growing canyon of talk with no

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<v Speaker 1>bridges of meaning. That canyon looked like it might just

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<v Speaker 1>swallow up the oldest democracy in the world. The Last

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<v Speaker 1>Archive is written and hosted by me Jill Lapour. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Our editor is Julia Barton, and our executive producer is

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