1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: All right, news round up, information overload hour. Here's our 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: toll free telephone number. If you want to be a 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: part of the program. It's eight hundred and ninety four 4 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: to one Sean if you want to join us. So, 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: the US Supreme Court heard oral arguments yesterday involving two 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: cases with transgender athletes in women's sports. One report out 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: and I brought this up with Riley Gaines on television 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: last night, has over eight hundred and ninety instances that 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: they've chronicled in one study that shows that female athletes, 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: that women in sports, you know, lost medals and championships 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: because of biological men playing women's sports. And she said, no, no, no, 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: it's much higher than that. She says, that's only the 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: cases that are reported. The arguments went forward. It's always 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: hard and I put this caveat out there to interpret 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices comments questions that they make. But I 16 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: think it's certainly worth playing some of it for you. 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,279 Speaker 1: Some people were a little surprised, for example, by Justice 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: amy Cony Barrett's comments referring to biological boys as trans girls. 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: This is what she said. 20 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: There are no six year olds in the state to 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: whom the statute applies because there are no school sponsored does. 22 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: Why it was a hypothetical okay, right. 23 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: Yes, like they would be the normal intermediate scrutiny analysis. 24 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: And are we saying it applies only to six year 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: olds or to everybody across the Well, I'm just trying. 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: To give you a hype. 27 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: I mean, yours is driven by testosterone levels and differences 28 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 3: in athletic capability. So I'm asking you what if you 29 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 3: try to take that out of the equation and you're 30 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 3: just drawing the line based on biological sex and saying 31 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 3: that trans girls can't be on the girls team in 32 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: an age group that's prepubescent. 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: All right, So she's just trying to get to the 34 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: heart of the argument. I don't interpret it the way 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: some others have. Justice Kotanji Brown Jackson is actually suggesting 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: it's not important to even define what a woman is 37 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: if it's talking about Title nine women's sports. Yes, it is. 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 4: Listen, you have the overarching classification. You know, everybody has 39 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 4: to be play on the team that is the same 40 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 4: as their sex at birth. But then you have a 41 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 4: gender identity definition that is operating within that meaning a 42 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 4: distinction meaning that for cis ginger girls they can play 43 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 4: consistent with their gender identity. For transgender girls, they can't. 44 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 4: This is really just about the definition of who we 45 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 4: accept that you can accept separate boys and girls. And 46 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 4: we are now looking at the definition of a girl 47 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 4: and we're saying only people who were girl assigned at 48 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 4: birth qualify. 49 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: Okay, and I'm not exactly sure you know have that's relevant, 50 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: but but put that aside for a second. Sam Alito 51 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: pressed the lawyer for trans athlete Kathleen Hartnett on the 52 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: definition of a woman. This got interesting. 53 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 5: Listen, and what is that definition for equal protection purposes? 54 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 5: What does what does it mean to be a lawyer 55 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 5: or girl or a man or a woman? 56 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 6: Sorry, I MI centers to your question. I think that 57 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 6: the underlying enactment, whatever it was, the policy, the law, 58 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 6: we'd have to have an understanding of how the state 59 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 6: or the government was just understanding that term to figure 60 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 6: out whether or not someone was excluded. We do not 61 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 6: have a definition for the court, and we don't take 62 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 6: issue with the We're not disputing the definition here. What 63 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 6: we're saying is that the way it applies in practice 64 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 6: is to exclude birth sex males categorically from women's teams, 65 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 6: and that there's a subset of those birth sex males 66 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 6: where it doesn't make sense to do so according to 67 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 6: the state's own interest. 68 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: Well, okay, now it gets more interesting when Justice Alito 69 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: asked part Net how a court can determine discrimination on 70 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: basis of sex without knowing what sex means for equal 71 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: protection purposes? This is I know, I don't think any 72 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: of these justices ever thought that this case would be 73 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: before them, But you know, we got two cases here. 74 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 5: Listen, how can a court determine whether there's a discrimination 75 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 5: on the basis of sex without knowing what sex means 76 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 5: for equal protection purposes? 77 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 6: I think here we just knowed. We basically know that 78 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 6: the that they've identified, pursu into their own statute, Lindsay 79 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 6: qualifies as a birth sex male, and she's being excluded 80 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 6: categorically from the women's teams as the statute. So we're 81 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 6: taking the statues definitions as we find them, and we 82 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 6: don't dispute them. We're just trying to figure out do 83 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 6: they create an equal protection problem? 84 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: All right? Now in both these cases. Now we're looking 85 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: at West Virginia and Idaho. The ADF, the Alliance Defending 86 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: Freedom served as council with both West Virginia and Idaho, 87 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: defending these states and their ban on transgender athletes competing 88 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: in women's sports. The CEO of the Alliance Defending Freedom 89 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: and President is Kristin Wagonero joins US. Also joining US 90 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: is Mary Kate Marshall. Now, Mary Kate invested like any 91 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: young athlete, female athlete in this case. You know, if 92 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: you want to be a D one athlete, you got 93 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: to work awfully hard. I know because both my kids 94 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: were D one athletes, all right, But she invested years 95 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: in becoming, you know, the great runner that she is. 96 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: Felt a thrill when she finished a race that was 97 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: swept away when she and teammates were displaced by a 98 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: male athlete during a first college cross country race. She 99 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: also raced against a biological male and lost. Anyway, welcome 100 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: both of you to the program. Thanks for being with us. Kristin, 101 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: let me start with you. How did you feel arguments 102 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: went yesterday? I mean, it gets into a rather it 103 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,559 Speaker 1: just I don't think I ever heard a case quite 104 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: like this, To be honest, I would agree. 105 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 7: You know, we've had a number of cases about twenty 106 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 7: before the Court in the last ten years. And I 107 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 7: have to say that that was probably the first argument 108 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 7: that I have been a part of that I came 109 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 7: away exceptionally disturbed. But it wasn't about the outcome, because 110 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 7: I feel confident that we're going to win. It was 111 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 7: the fact that we had to be there and that 112 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 7: I didn't hear more about the girls affected. You know, 113 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 7: Mary Kate is actually a party in the case, and 114 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 7: there was so much focus on the boys, the boys 115 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 7: who are identifying as the girls and their right to 116 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 7: be able to take the girls' spots, and that that 117 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 7: might be okay. The other thing I'd say is it 118 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 7: was a parent from the argument yesterday that the Acou 119 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 7: is running away as fast as they can from the 120 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 7: arguments that they've made in the lower courts and around 121 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 7: the nation. And I think that was also a very 122 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 7: positive development. 123 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: You know, Mary Kate, let me. Let me get to 124 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: your story. And I've gone into great specificity in detail 125 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: with Riley Gaines and her story. Riley Gaines would get 126 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: up at four in the morning and go swimming before school. 127 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: Then she'd swim after school, and she did this for 128 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: years and years and years in her life and in 129 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: the case with Leah Thompson. She even tied in that race, 130 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: and then they decided, you know, not to give both 131 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: of them the goal, you know, the number one prize, 132 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: the gold medal, whatever where, whatever the prize was at 133 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: the time. And I mean, and she found it devastating, 134 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: and she said it was beyond traumatic to be in 135 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: a locker room with biological men. I don't know if 136 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: people really appreciate how hard you have to work to get, 137 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, to be a top athlete like you are. 138 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, people don't realize that the years of that comes 139 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 8: with with running and sports. It starts in high school, 140 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 8: you know, developing our bodies, getting to the point where 141 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 8: we can be competitive, and then to bring in a 142 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 8: male and have to race against them is demoralizing. I mean, 143 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 8: scholarships help women succeed in life, and that's that's how 144 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 8: I got to the point where I'm in. And so 145 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 8: to put a male into a race and make us 146 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 8: compete against them, it's it definitely takes away the integrity. 147 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 9: Of women's sports. 148 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: You were quoted in one article of saying that that 149 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: you felt different about losing to a male than losing 150 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: to another woman, and that when you lost to a man, 151 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: you said you felt completely different. You said, it's defeating 152 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: because no matter how hard sheat, you would try, hard 153 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: work and effort didn't matter. And you know, Caitlin Jenner, 154 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: who I've interviewed many times in the past, said that 155 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what testosterone levels are when somebody's at 156 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: the collegiate level or when they're older and they're playing 157 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 1: at that high level competitive sport, it matters to puberty 158 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: and even in those cases. Now, explain the feelings that 159 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: you had because you experienced this yourself. How many times 160 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: does this happen to you? 161 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 8: For me, I raced against a male twice. Some of 162 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 8: my other teammates raced against him more. One of my 163 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 8: teammates was actually pushed off the podium by this male athlete. 164 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 8: And you know, we spend hours together, so to see 165 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 8: our hard work just plush down the drain by a 166 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 8: male athlete who clearly clearly has biological differences than women. Yeah, 167 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 8: it's demoralizing. I mean, what is that thing to women 168 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 8: and girls out there who who have dreams out there 169 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 8: that can just be crushed because a man wants to run. 170 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 6: With the girls. 171 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: You know, Title nine has has been around for a 172 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: long time. Kristen, and it basically allows the same number 173 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: of scholarships for men and women, and it's been widely 174 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: viewed as fair. And I think this if people are that, 175 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess, if they're that passionate about this, 176 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 1: shouldn't they really be championing a whole different category of 177 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: collegiate athletics or athletics in general, you know. 178 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 7: I think that's the fairest way of best, although I 179 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 7: think the actual answer is that men should compete in 180 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 7: the men's category no matter how they identify it, because 181 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 7: gender identity is irrelevant to what's happening on the athletic field. 182 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 7: All that matters are the biological differences between men and women, 183 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 7: and there's no amount of testosterone suppressants or pubity blockers 184 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 7: that take away that advantage. The science shows it, but 185 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 7: we also know from our own eyes what we see. 186 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 7: In the case here Virginia, there was a male athlete 187 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 7: who said he been on puberty blockers, never went through puberty, 188 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 7: and yet displaced four hundred and twenty some girls eleven 189 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 7: hundred times and took fifty seven medals away from those girls. 190 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 7: So again, this is about sex, because sex is what 191 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 7: matters on the athletic field. It's also what matters in 192 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 7: the locker room. 193 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: The question is, you know, I don't think most people, 194 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: even myself included, knew how widespread this has become and 195 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: how many examples, how many have you been able to 196 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: chronicle in terms of women competing with with biological males 197 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: that lose The one study I refer to eight hundred 198 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: and ninety Briley Gaden says is way higher than that. 199 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: What numbers do you have. 200 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 7: Well, there are some reports that suggest, you know, girls 201 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 7: have been displaced more than ten thousand times. There are 202 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 7: you know a number of different websites and those who 203 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 7: are engaging in the day to la Kenana closely, and 204 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 7: you know, even one girl pushed off the podium is 205 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 7: too many. As just as Kavanaugh said yesterday, this is 206 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 7: a zero sum game. I want to tell you about 207 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 7: Adelaie across Sean. She was on the track team in 208 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 7: that West Virginia case, and that male athlete was a 209 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 7: year behind her. She was finishing in the top three spots. 210 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 7: And as you know, in track, there's a limited number 211 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 7: of spots for competition, there's a limited number of lanes 212 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 7: you get to run in and a limited number of 213 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 7: you know, people that can compete and attract met he 214 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 7: bumped her out all together, and then of course he's 215 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 7: sexually harassed her in the locker room itself, which would 216 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 7: make no girl want to continue to be able to 217 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 7: participate in athletics. 218 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: And there's so much of these young women, people like 219 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: Mary Kate. How many hours a day would you train 220 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: to get to the level you've gotten to, Mary Kate, Yeah, 221 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: I'd have. 222 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 8: To say seven days the worth a week at least 223 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 8: five hours between my school works, between going to the gym, 224 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 8: between runs, between you know, eating, ride and stretching and 225 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 8: keeping my body where I need to compete at a 226 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 8: high level. 227 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: Unbelievable. I mean, the sacrifice is incalculable, and you give 228 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: up a lot of your childhood to do this, to 229 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: be a D one athlete than a professional athlete if 230 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: you get to that level. Anyway, I agree with your assessment, 231 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: Kristen Wagner. I think that this is going to come 232 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: out favorably. Although I'd never like to interpret oral arguments, 233 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: but I think I don't see any other outcome here. 234 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: Congratulations on the great work, Mary Kate. We wish you 235 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: all the best. You sound like a great young woman 236 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: and all success in your life. I hope, I hope 237 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: great things are in your future. 238 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 8: Thank you for having us. 239 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's one of the more ironic things in 240 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: the world, I think, one of the funniest things, but 241 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: it's also sad simultaneously, is that there are people every 242 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: member of Congress, they have to file financial disclosure reports, 243 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: and that includes what money they invest in. And if 244 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: you look at Nancy Pelosi and her husband, they have 245 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: one of the greatest return on investments in terms of 246 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: stocks of anybody in the history of investing in the market. Now, 247 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people might suspect that would be called 248 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: insider trading, but the fact that there are there's a 249 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: website and groups of people that take these financial disclosure forms, 250 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: and whatever Nancy Pelosi invests in, they invest in because 251 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: they figure, ah, he's got information in a pretty darn 252 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: good track record. I forget, you know, like a two 253 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: thousand percent return, crazy numbers that nobody else gets in 254 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: any traditional investment. And I think that is very revealing 255 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: in and of itself. Now, if you take a trip 256 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: down memory lane, Nancy Pelosi was confronted by sixty minutes 257 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: and Steve Croft at the time on the issue of 258 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: these allegations that have gone on now for years of 259 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: insider trading. 260 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 9: Was it to ask you why you and your husband 261 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 9: back in March of two thousand and eight accepted and 262 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 9: participated in a very large IPO deal from Visa at 263 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 9: a time there was major legislation affecting their credit card 264 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 9: companies making its way through the to the House. And 265 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 9: did you consider that to be a conflict of interest? 266 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what your point is of your question. 267 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: Is there some point that you want to make with that. 268 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 10: The fact is your basic premise is a false one 269 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 10: and it's no use of respect. 270 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: I don't understand. 271 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 9: Why is it false you participated in the IPO at 272 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 9: the time you were Speaker of the House. 273 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Speaker of the House and everyone gets these massive 274 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: returns on investment, and she just happens to invest in 275 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: all the right stock. Had nothing to do with knowledge 276 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: she has as the Speaker of the House and a 277 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: member of Congress. I mean, it's absolutely insane. If if 278 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: you look at the actual numbers, I mean, it should 279 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: take everybody's breath away. It should be incredible long term 280 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: returns over decades. The portfolio stored estimates suggesting profits of 281 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: over one hundred and thirty million dollars, a huge increase 282 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: from initial holdings. She's been outperforming the market. Reports from 283 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four highlight returns OH 284 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: significantly higher than the SMP, some sources claiming gains of 285 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: fifty four percent to seventy percent in twenty twenty four, 286 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: compared to the SMP's only twenty five percent. Why would 287 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: you ever want to, you know, follow the market? Anyway, 288 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi posted up to a staggering sixteen thousand, nine 289 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty percent return on investment, beat the market 290 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: by five hundred and eighty one percent and a bunch 291 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 1: of big wins. Anyway. Chairman Bryan Style of Wisconsin is 292 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: the on the Committee for the House Administration and anyway. 293 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: It's his first interview following the hearing that took place 294 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: this week in Congress on congressional trading, and he said, 295 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: we're here today because no member of Congress, regardless of 296 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: party or seniority, should be profiting off of insider information. 297 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: I mean, was she just lucky, congressman? Or is this 298 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: you know the norm? 299 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 11: Well, no member is, as you just read, should be 300 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 11: able to profit off of insider information. If you want 301 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 11: to day trade, there's a place for that. It's called 302 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 11: Wall Street. You shouldn't be allowed to trade stocks if 303 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 11: you're coming to Capitol Hill. The legislation we introduced, we 304 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 11: passed out of my Committee on House Administration earlier today, 305 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 11: bands members of Congress from being able to profit off 306 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 11: of insider information. It does a couple of things. It 307 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 11: says you can't go in and buy stocks in your 308 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 11: member of Congress. If you have stackson you arrive, you 309 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 11: can hold them. You got to provide seventies advance notice 310 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 11: so the public can see exactly what's going on. And 311 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 11: it's got real teeth to it, because the answer is 312 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 11: the end of the day, the American people deserve to 313 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 11: know their member of Congress is not in Washington to 314 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 11: profit themselves, that they're actually working for the American people. 315 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: Let me let me go to Yahoo Finance and they 316 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: wrote an article about this, and the headline is Nancy 317 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: Pelosi posted up a staggering sixteen nine hundred and thirty 318 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: percent return on investment, beat the market by five hundred 319 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: and eighty one percent. And then it goes through her 320 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: five biggest wins, and The New York posted an analysis 321 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: of this. And you know her and her husband had 322 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: initially reported in nineteen eighty seven the net worth of 323 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: between six hundred and ten thousand and seven hundred and 324 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: eighty five thousand. Now it's over one hundred and thirty 325 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: three million dollars as of today, And I mean, that 326 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: is a staggering sum of money. Nobody gets that kind 327 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: of return. What would you do, well, I mean, what 328 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: do you she bet on healthcare for example, And go 329 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: through all the other examples of where she Microsoft another example, 330 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: Broadcom another example. All have connections to government. NA Video 331 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: is another one. Google is another one. I mean, is 332 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: she just lucky or do you think that she had 333 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: insider information? 334 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 11: Well, no members should be buying individual stocks in the 335 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 11: first place. In my opinion, insider trading cases are incredibly 336 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 11: hard to prove. On occasion, you can get people and 337 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 11: actually get them locked up and arrested. That's happened to 338 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 11: a member of Congress, That's happened to other people in 339 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 11: the public that people know, but it's hard to actually prove. 340 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 11: For the Department of Justice, That's why I think the 341 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 11: legislation that we're moving forward today is so important. It 342 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 11: just simply comes in and says you can't buy stocks 343 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 11: if you're an elected member of Congress. If you do that, 344 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 11: you prevent members of Congress from being even in the 345 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 11: position in the first place where they could benefit themselves 346 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 11: off of the insider information that's available on Capitol Hills. 347 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: Well, what about a blind trust? Do you believe in 348 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: them or no? 349 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 11: If you fully structure a blind trust, it can be 350 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 11: done correctly. Those are expensive and a lot of members 351 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 11: don't want to be in them, And so if you're 352 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 11: in a blind trust, that's a separate animal. That can 353 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 11: make sense if you do it correctly and you put 354 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 11: the actual structure in place. It's incredibly expensive. If you're 355 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 11: outside of a blind trust and you actually can see 356 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 11: what you're buying and selling, you shouldn't be allowed to 357 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 11: buy individual shares of stocks. 358 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: I've never shared this publicly, but I'm going to share 359 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: it with you now. And I'm not sure why this 360 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: has just become a little bit of a phenomenon in 361 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: the last year, but they're a very well known wealthy 362 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: country that have repeatedly reached out to me with the 363 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: highest ranking officials in these countries wanting to meet with me, 364 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: and my answer is always the same, No. I suspect 365 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 1: that there is something the farious behind their motives, and 366 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: I always say no, I'm not interested in their money. 367 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: I can't be bought, and I just I'm concerned. Well, 368 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: I will ask, what do you want to meet with 369 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: me about? Oh, no, we just want to talk. Uh, Okay, 370 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: that doesn't sound It doesn't pass the smell test to me. 371 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: Does it pass the smell test to you? 372 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 11: No? And you see that all the time on Capitol Hill. 373 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 11: You have all sorts of people who are here trying 374 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 11: to meet with members. There's all sorts of information that's available. 375 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 11: There's a case where the chairman of the Senate Intelligence 376 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 11: Committee in the lead up to the COVID pandemic, when 377 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 11: information was becoming available on a confidential basis to members, 378 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 11: and that individual called his broker and sold every single 379 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 11: position except one. It ultimately lose his job, rightfully so, 380 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 11: and this is where the answer is to clean this 381 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 11: whole thing up, To begin the process of getting Washington 382 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 11: and draining the swamp, is to come in in place 383 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 11: a blanket prohibition against members from buying individual stocks once 384 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 11: they get elected. 385 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 7: You see. 386 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: Look, I actually am old fashioned. I think if you 387 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: decide to run for office, you are doing it. It's 388 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: it's an act of service. And look, I fully understand 389 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: that people have to maintain residences in d C. It's 390 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: not cheap and in their home district that you know. 391 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: I know a lot of members over the years that 392 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: live in their offices as a means of saving money 393 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: and being able to serve their communities. And I admire 394 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: them for that. And I'm sure it's not fun living 395 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: in your office. However, many people do it for many, 396 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: many years and it's just too expensive Washington, DC. You know, 397 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: rentals are not particularly cheap, and I respect that. I 398 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: don't think if you're in a position of service that 399 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: you should in any way shape manner form, you know, 400 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: be selling you know, stocks, but based on information that 401 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: you probably should you know, keep private. 402 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 11: Being in Congress as of fiduciary duty, you owe your 403 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 11: duty to the American people to be working in their 404 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 11: best interests. In members who want to come in day 405 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 11: trade stocks and utilize the information that's available to them 406 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 11: on Capitol Hill to their own self interest is the 407 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 11: exact opposite of the trust that they need to have 408 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 11: with the American people. One of the reasons the American 409 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 11: people get so fed up in frustrated with Congress is 410 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 11: I think a lot of people that come to DC 411 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 11: are here for their own self interests. One way that 412 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 11: we can start to regain the trust of the American 413 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 11: people is to prevent members of Congress from profiting off 414 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 11: this insider information that's available. Ban members of Congress from 415 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 11: buying stoff, and put restrictions in place so that they 416 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 11: can't profit off of the insider information they have. We 417 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 11: got to get to a spot where Congress is beginning 418 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 11: to regain the trusted American people, and we got to 419 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 11: clean up Washington to do it. 420 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: You know, I really don't have a problem. I mean, 421 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: we do have a global economy. I don't have a 422 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: problem with people doing business with foreign countries, especially countries 423 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: that are allies or countries that are transitioning to be 424 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: allies of the United States. I think the world is 425 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: being transformed and reconfigured right before our eyes. I think 426 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: we see it with Venezuela. I think we hopefully will 427 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: see it with Iran. We have certainly seen this with 428 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: the Middle East, and I was on the trip on 429 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: Air Force one with the President when he went to 430 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: riod in Saudi Arabia, and Cutter and the uae I 431 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: was with him in Abu Dhabi. And I think that 432 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: that's all a good thing. All in the hopes of 433 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: bringing peace in the region and eliminating Iran and eliminating 434 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: Iranian and hegemony in the region is going to be 435 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: best for everybody overall. However, if they're trying to gain 436 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: influence with people in power, I think it's a bad idea. 437 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: You would agree with. 438 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 11: That, No, absolutely, You don't want people to be financially 439 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 11: dependent on a foreign country where they have a self 440 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 11: benefit if a foreign country does well, you want people 441 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 11: And this is why our legislation allows you to buy 442 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 11: in to what we would call diversified funds by the 443 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 11: whole s and P. Five hundred right along with all 444 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 11: the American people in every business in this country. 445 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: Well said, that's fine. 446 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 11: We want you to be focused in on the United 447 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 11: States doing well, not on any given foreign country. 448 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: Pairman Brian's style Wisconsin on the Committee in the House Administration. 449 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: We appreciate your legislation and wish is the best with it. 450 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: We'll update people. Is it as it makes its way 451 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: through Congress. Thank you, sir, eight hundred nine four one. 452 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: Shawn is on number. 453 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 10: You're on the Sean Hannity A place where free speech 454 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 10: and the First Amendment are still alive. 455 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: And well, liberalism is a failed ideology. 456 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 10: Get your dose of independence and liberty every weekday right 457 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 10: here with Sean Sean Hannity. 458 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: Now, we played earlier in the program the President encouraging 459 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: the Iranian people to keep protesting and that help is 460 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: on the way. The President was asked a specifically what 461 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: the endgame with Iran might be, and let me play 462 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: for you that answer. 463 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: Americans woke up this morning and they saw that you said. 464 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: Help is on the way. Yeah, what do you mean 465 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: by that? 466 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 12: Well, there's a lot of help in the way and 467 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 12: in different forms, including economic help from our standpoint and 468 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 12: not going to help Iran very much. And you know 469 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 12: we put I ran out of business within nuclear capacity. 470 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: And this strong action. You're talking about, what's the endgame. 471 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 10: The endgame is to win. 472 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: I like winning. How do you define that win Iran? 473 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 12: Well, let's define it in Venezuela. Let's define it with 474 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 12: al bag Daddy he was wiped out. Let's define it 475 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 12: with Solomoni and let's define it in Iran where he 476 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 12: wiped out their iren nuclear threat in a period of 477 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 12: about fifteen minutes once the B two's got there, and 478 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 12: that was a complete obliteration. 479 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: Now there is other reports and we'll have a lot 480 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: more when we get on the air tonight nine Eastern 481 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: on Fox. The one claiming the Iranian Minister of Defense 482 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: and deputy commander of the Cuds forces fled the country 483 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: and surprise me, Pentagon now is in the process of 484 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: moving US military personnel out of the Mid East possible 485 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: targets of Iran if in fact, the President does act. 486 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: So we're watching that very closely. Some of European officials 487 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: are saying they think that there could be, you know, 488 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: a strike against Iran within the next twenty four hours. 489 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: The Islamic Republic TV came out with a video Butler 490 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: PA and this time the bullet won't miss in Persian. 491 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: That's not going to go over well with President Trump anyway. 492 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: So we're watching, We're monitoring a full coverage of all 493 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: of this tonight nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel. 494 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: Please tune in, always say your DVR so you never 495 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: ever ever miss an episode we'll get full reaction. 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