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Speaker 1: Now here's your host, Jen Mueller. I have been antsy,

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Speaker 3: And to hear John.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely happy to be here.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that in Baltimore, this coaching staff really

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Speaker 6: It's this opportunity for him.

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Speaker 7: Mike's really is really breaking down his defense in a

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Speaker 7: way that's a teachable and be kind of being able

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Speaker 7: to be flexible in multiple depending on the personnel.

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Speaker 1: What was the reaction inside the locker room to those

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Speaker 1: different packages, right, Because on one hand, boy that is

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Speaker 1: impressive when you can change your game plan from week

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Speaker 1: to week. On the other hand, that puts a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure on guys because it is detail oriented, and

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Speaker 1: I think it probably goes back to him being a

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Speaker 1: player's coach. But the either the excitement level or the

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Speaker 1: thirst for a challenge. What was the feeling among the

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Speaker 1: defense in the locker room.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, totally, and that's something that Kyle talked about. It's

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Speaker 7: certainly a challenge how much he was throwing at them.

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Speaker 7: But I think Mike does a good job of recognizing,

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Speaker 7: like when too much is too much, And I think

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Speaker 7: he's just a really good teacher of concepts that he

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Speaker 7: was able to break things down in a way for

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Speaker 7: guys that made it more digestible begin and week out.

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Speaker 7: And I think that's also something that he built over

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Speaker 7: two seasons. You know, wasn't something that he came in

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Speaker 7: day one. He was familiar with our former defensive coordinator

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Speaker 7: Week Martindale's system, so a lot the pieces he was

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Speaker 7: building off of Winks you know, system that he had

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Speaker 7: established here over a number of years. You know, Mike

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Speaker 7: came up in that defense as well. It wasn't something

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Speaker 7: that he was kind of starting to scratch square one.

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Speaker 7: It was definitely a process over the last two years.

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Speaker 1: Well, I am excited to see how this process plays

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Speaker 1: out in Seattle, Cassie. I'm sorry for the loss for

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Speaker 1: the Ravens fans, but I think the twelves are super

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Speaker 1: excited here in Seattle. We are so glad that you

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Speaker 1: joined us.

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Speaker 7: Thanks for the time, Thanks so much, and we wish

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Speaker 7: Mike and stuff nothing but the best. I'm sure they'll

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Speaker 7: be there for years and years to come and only

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Speaker 7: wish you guys all the success.

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Speaker 2: John.

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Speaker 1: Knowing all of that, how does that help round out

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Speaker 1: what we kind of have started to learn about coach today?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think it just shows I kind

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Speaker 2: of brought this point before, but this is a guy's

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Speaker 2: going to come in with a lot of ideas to

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Speaker 2: work with the players and be flexible with them. Heat's

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Speaker 2: coming in to a team that this is not a

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Speaker 2: typical I took over a two and fifteen, three and

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Speaker 2: fourteen team, Like, there's real talent, and there's six guys

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Speaker 2: in Orlando right now Pro Bowl. There's guys he can

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Speaker 2: work with, and I'm just I think we're all really

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Speaker 2: fascinating to see what he's gonna do, particularly with this defense.

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Speaker 2: And you know, he mentioned Devin Wetherspoon by name as

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Speaker 2: a player, like, this is a guy that we loved

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Speaker 2: in the scouting process. They draft in the twenties, they

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Speaker 2: knew they weren't going to get him, but this is

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Speaker 2: a guy that, like we saw his versatility a little

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Speaker 2: bit already last year. This guy who played outside, he

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Speaker 2: played nickel. He's a great blitzer. I'm really eager to

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Speaker 2: see what they're going to do with Devin Weatherspoon in

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Speaker 2: year two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I know that Mike McDonald does not want to

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Speaker 1: talk about blitz rates. I do, and I want to

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Speaker 1: know how much they're gonna blit Spoon because if you

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Speaker 1: watch the way Baltimore uses those guys, oh my gosh, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's exciting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean their overall blitz rate was not very

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Speaker 2: high this No, they're just really affected. They're just when

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Speaker 2: they do it and they disguise it so well and

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Speaker 2: you don't know who's coming.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, the way that they can disguise for down,

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Speaker 1: the way that they bring pressure from all over the field,

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Speaker 1: it was really I mean, as long as you're not

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Speaker 1: the opposed, don't want to be in the wrong end

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Speaker 1: of it. It was really fun to watch that. One

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Speaker 1: biggest surprise of the day for me. Somehow Mike McDonald

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Speaker 1: stump John Schneider with movie references. Yeah, that I have

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Speaker 1: never met anybody who has done that.

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Speaker 2: I you know, I'm a little disappointed in our general

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Speaker 2: manager to be well, there is learnt in the press conference.

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Speaker 2: He's got an assignment. We learned he has not seen Zoolander.

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Speaker 2: And for someone who loves comedies as much as John

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Speaker 2: Schneider and is a huge ole Pharaoh fan, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: a little disappointed. I think he made a fantastic higher,

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Speaker 2: incredible g I'm good at all the important stuff, but

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Speaker 2: that's a pretty big hole in his you know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe on a flight to like the Combine or something

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Speaker 1: like that, he's gonna have to now And the problem

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Speaker 1: is we're going to have to go back and watch

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Speaker 1: it to John because he's going to be firing movie

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Speaker 1: lines out there and we're gonna have to know what

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Speaker 1: they're from. Yeah, he does find a way to keep

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Speaker 1: us on.

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Speaker 2: And that's you know, we learned today also that the

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Speaker 2: new coach, Mike McDonald likes his comedies. He leans a

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Speaker 2: little more nineties Jim Carrey than.

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Speaker 1: I'm totally into that. Also just drinks a normal Pike

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Speaker 1: Place roast for his coffee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, black coffee. This is guy.

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Speaker 1: These are the things that are really important when getting

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Speaker 1: to know your head.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when you hire a defensive cordner as your

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Speaker 2: head coach, you're not expecting him to come in and

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Speaker 2: be like some big fancy drink order with you know.

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Speaker 1: A frappuccino with whip cream on top.

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Speaker 2: Or going back to Zonder orange mocha frappuccino.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I ruined the line for you, job.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I ruined the line. You know what I

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Speaker 1: hope we have done today. I hope that we have

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Speaker 1: given twelves just a little bit of inside on their

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Speaker 1: new head coach. I'm really excited to see how this

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Speaker 1: plays out. We're gonna get a chance to, I guess,

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Speaker 1: kind of see how we build a staff. First move

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Speaker 1: should be coming pretty soon. I have a feeling we

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Speaker 1: will be joining you again soon. Thanks for listening to

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Speaker 1: this episode of the Seahawks Insiders podcast.

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