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Speaker 1: great day The Doug Gottlieb Show here on a Monday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Seattle and Jane Daniels Distill hitting

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Speaker 1: his elbow in a game that was gone shades of

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Speaker 1: RG three and what happened last night. But I'm going

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Speaker 1: to politely disagree with my radio producer in terms of

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Speaker 1: what we lead with. I'm sorry, I know it's a Monday.

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Speaker 1: It happened Saturday night, but that was everything about Saturday

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Speaker 1: night was amazing. What an unbelievable World series game. Unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: unbelievable World series game. It gave you so much. It

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Speaker 1: gave you so much. Ninth inning home run from a

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Speaker 1: defensive replacement who hadn't hit won in like over a month.

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Speaker 1: Bottom of the ninth inning, bases loaded and Will Smith

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Speaker 1: on the on home plate. And this after John Smoltz

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Speaker 1: epic foreshadowing talking about how hard it is to find

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Speaker 1: catch he runs over Key k Hernandez to save the game.

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Speaker 1: And then the eleventh inning, Will Smith, who I didn't

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Speaker 1: even know, like again forgive me. I love baseball. I

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Speaker 1: do watch playoff baseball every year. Six World Series, six

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Speaker 1: World Series rings in a row for one guy. And

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Speaker 1: then the close out in the bottom of the eleventh

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Speaker 1: was equally spectacular with uh with with the is equally impressive.

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Speaker 1: Okay with the double play on the broken bat and

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Speaker 1: it's Mookie Betts, who he didn't hit well all series,

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Speaker 1: but he's not a short stop. Converted shortstop makes a

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Speaker 1: great play, steps on the bag, avoids hitting the runner

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Speaker 1: as he throws at the first and a double play.

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Speaker 1: What a game And Jason and Jason Soner wants me

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Speaker 1: to start with talking about the Seahawks beat and the

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Speaker 1: Comet and stop at Jason, Wow, it is your team,

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Speaker 1: it is your victory lab. When you think now about

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Speaker 1: Saturday night, what should America know about? What Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio's biggest Dodger fan but also critical analyst thinks of Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Night about the game Game seven, It gave us everything

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Speaker 2: we wanted and you summed it up really nicely. I thought,

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Speaker 2: I think Game three still is going to hold a

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Speaker 2: special place in my heart. Game three was one of

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Speaker 2: the best experiences I've ever had. I went into the

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Speaker 2: weekend assuming that the bou Jays were going to get

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Speaker 2: and I was proven wrong, thankfully. H Yamamoto coming back

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Speaker 2: on zero day's rest to close out a World Series

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Speaker 2: eight days. I don't know how you could tell me

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Speaker 2: that there has been a better performance at the very

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Speaker 2: least by a pitcher in the postseason. I don't think

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Speaker 2: enough praise could be given to Yama Moto for that.

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Speaker 2: You could talk about Miguel Rojas in the last couple

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Speaker 2: sticking with pa Has too long in the first five games.

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Speaker 2: But Yama Moto basically Dave Roberts telling the entire baseball

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about your like situational relievers that craped the

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Speaker 2: US starters and starters after another in Game seven. I've

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Speaker 2: never seen anything like it. You're right, all those things

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Speaker 1: I thought he managed his ass off. I just do.

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Speaker 2: I think we give it little too much credit. It's like,

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Speaker 2: when things work out, he's an exceptional manager. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Why was Pat Heston's centerfield?

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Speaker 2: Why would you he put pauson center field because they

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Speaker 2: needed someone with a because what's his name, Tommy Edmund's

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Speaker 2: So he put passestant center because they needed a throw

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Speaker 1: It was defensive replacement. Is that fair?

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly what it was.

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Speaker 1: And and why was why did they make the switch

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Speaker 1: getting I mean, you end up getting a home run.

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Speaker 1: But the two biggest plays of the game for the

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Speaker 1: by his two defensive replacements. Again, I get, I I

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Speaker 1: But yeah, like, as a as a coach, when why

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Speaker 1: it was. I thought it was. It was. Granted, I

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Speaker 2: And just to be clear of Rojas was a he

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Speaker 2: wasn't a defensive replacement. Rojas got the start in Game

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Speaker 2: a great second base all series. In fact, in Game three,

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Speaker 2: And by the way, that's one of the sub stories

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and she kept telling him you get hit

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Speaker 2: He's he doesn't home runs.

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Speaker 1: I know. And it was a one hander on a slider. Amazing,

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Speaker 1: it was amazing. I'm as to tell you this like, again,

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Speaker 1: have a perfectly good kicker, but then McManis comes back

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Speaker 1: Like we go into all of those stuff and it's

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Speaker 1: it's all relatively interesting, but I mean, like, look, Game

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Speaker 1: seven was an epic game. Game three was an epic game,

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Speaker 1: and I would say that Game six was a pretty

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Speaker 1: it ended. Is all this fair?

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Speaker 2: Jason mcguil Rojas was the hero of Game six with

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Speaker 1: But my point though, is, are you okay saying three

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Speaker 2: Al Teimer's Yes? Oh absolutely? Drama wise, Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: So we watched a seven game series where three of

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Speaker 1: them were all timers. You had, in many people's conversation,

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Speaker 1: the greatest single game performance by a hitter, that being

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Speaker 1: show Hey, going back to game three, right, and then

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Speaker 1: you have Yamamoto, who I mean, like, look, it's very

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Speaker 1: similar to Madison Bumgardner, right, mad Bum had that and

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Speaker 1: we've never seen show hey, and again, I would have

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Speaker 1: to I don't have the depth of baseball knowledge in

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Speaker 1: terms of a series, but what we got was as

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Speaker 1: absolute knock down dragonmounts Monci. You have a Dodgers podcast, Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Jason was convinced when it went back to Toronto

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Speaker 1: it was over in game six. Where were you in

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Speaker 3: I'm definitely not on the same It was over mentality,

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Speaker 3: but I understood it because after the eighteenth inning game,

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Speaker 3: very uninspiring to see the Dodgers come out looking so flat,

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Speaker 3: while Toronto seemed unbothered by an eighteen inning game. Now,

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Speaker 3: Toronto also did take out most of their players way

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Speaker 3: Gerrea Junior was the only one that played the whole thing,

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Speaker 3: So naturally I didn't like the feeling of going back

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Speaker 3: So I thought anything can still happen. And it wasn't

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Speaker 3: and we had Yamamoto and I just I had hope.

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Speaker 2: But it was it was it was hard.

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Speaker 3: It was hard after those two losses, after the eighteenth

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Speaker 1: Uh, Sammy, you're like me, You're I'm I'm less than neutral. Right.

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers are my son's favorite team. I am a

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Speaker 1: quasi Dodger fan angels are my team, but I was

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Speaker 4: I was ready for the Dodgers Dogs.

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Speaker 1: But we're all we're all watching texting on Saturday. Jason

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Speaker 1: is just he's just on one. Every you know, he's

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Speaker 1: out the announcers, the umpiring everything. Jason's just on one.

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Speaker 1: What was your experience like watching Saturay Night?

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Speaker 4: I mean this, I think that some Dodger fans would

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Speaker 4: feel that this World series compared to last year, is

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Speaker 4: even sweeter, just because it was more of a battle.

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Speaker 4: I know, last year made up for sort of like

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Speaker 4: the oh, we have to win, like a real one

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Speaker 4: in front of fans, you know, outside of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: This one felt like such a battle. Last year, it

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Speaker 4: was so much hype for Yankees Dodgers, and it was

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Speaker 4: a dud. It was over in five and this one

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Speaker 4: was It was like an all timer to go back

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Speaker 4: sweet as it gets.

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Speaker 2: So it was.

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Speaker 4: It was fun to watch. It was very stressful Friday

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Speaker 4: and Saturday night the whole the whole series was stressful,

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Speaker 4: I've been living here for ten years. We'll go back

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Speaker 1: The Japanese players just wired differently, Man, They're so good.

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Speaker 2: More specifically, the Dodgers are cooked, the Dodgers. Dodgers will

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Speaker 2: And to that point, I'm going to disagree with Rob.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I would. I mean, I don't know where the

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Speaker 1: He's like, listen, they're base running cost him the end

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Speaker 4: And is that a case of like been there, Dodgers

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Speaker 4: Transport you away? Yeah, take you away from reality?

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Speaker 1: I have a great life, great, but it's it's Halloween night,

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Speaker 1: App Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in. It is a Wednesday. It's

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Speaker 1: Sports podcast We Got a lot to talk about. Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady has cloned his dog. Huh r r. That was

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Speaker 1: my Scooby Doo. By the way, guys, my Scooby doo.

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Speaker 1: You know you got NBA games, got some college football,

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Speaker 1: a lot of potential storylines, but nothing that jumps out

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Speaker 1: Okay there, Dan Byer, what do you got my man?

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Speaker 1: What are you thinking of the midway?

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Speaker 4: I think they're both game.

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Speaker 7: they were eighteen weeks in the NFL season. So that's

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Speaker 7: why there was no response today because I just figured

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Speaker 7: that this was this was the given portion of the equation.

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Speaker 1: M I'm gonna do. I like first half of the season.

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Speaker 1: I like looking back, we can wonder and maybe do

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Speaker 1: next week and do the last the kick of the season.

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Speaker 1: I just think there's all kinds of interesting things. The

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Speaker 1: culture the most interesting they just are. I mean between

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard, their GM, Shane Stike in their head coach,

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Speaker 1: I think most people thought they were on some form

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Speaker 1: of hot seat. And remember they started this year with

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson planning to be their starting quarterback, despite the

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Speaker 1: fact last year for him ended so strangely, and they

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Speaker 1: had Danny Daniel Jones and whatever the NFL thinks of him,

447
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Speaker 1: popular public opinion was super down on Daniel Jones. And

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Speaker 1: when you say Danny Dimes, it's kind of said with

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Speaker 1: a wink nod, you know what I mean. Danny Dimes

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Speaker 1: been great, Jonathan Taylor's been awesome, the defense been pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Shane Styke is a tremendous play caller, and they got

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Speaker 1: a shot now adding sauce Gardner to go far in

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Speaker 1: the AFC playoffs, not just with how good they are,

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Speaker 1: but how beaten up and how average everybody else is.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of a more interesting story that's different

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Speaker 1: than we thought it would be than the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 7: And I think that the trepidation from people or the

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Speaker 7: people who have some questions about the Colts are the

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Speaker 7: ones who haven't watched the Colts. They are they are really.

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Speaker 1: Picking the Chargers ass like JAYSETU like they kick their ass.

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Speaker 2: I was like that six times.

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Speaker 7: But I would rather a team turn the ball over

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Speaker 7: six times then to be uh, not be able to

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Speaker 7: do anything on offense, like they didn't get the running

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Speaker 7: game going, but like they like they they lost the

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Speaker 7: game with seven, but it was probably realistically a two

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Speaker 7: score game. But to turn it over six times means like,

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Speaker 7: oh my gosh, what are you doing? And and I've

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Speaker 7: been frustrated with the Seahawks at times in the way

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Speaker 7: that they've turned over the ball earlier in the season,

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Speaker 7: But turning over the ball sometimes I don't think is

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Speaker 7: a sign of.

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Speaker 2: I would have it.

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Speaker 1: Multiple weeks in a row. It happened three weeks in

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Speaker 1: a row, like Okay, now we got.

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Speaker 4: A proact correct and and and and.

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Speaker 1: And Jay s Douw. I'm not saying the Colts are

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Speaker 1: the best team in the MC or that's not a

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Speaker 1: sign of ooh, maybe the damn is gonna break, maybe

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Speaker 1: this team will come back down to earth, right, I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying the question or we were trying to talk

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Speaker 1: about the midway is most interesting first half storylines. That's

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Speaker 1: pretty interesting to me that the Colts, who none of

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Speaker 1: us were Like, if you would have listed your time

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Speaker 1: eight teams or your top ten teams from the AFC

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Speaker 1: to start the year, would you have listened to the Colts.

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Speaker 7: No, it's not a chance.

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Speaker 2: I thought stich In and Ballard were like on the

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Speaker 2: way out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah, no question. So that's

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Speaker 1: why I would say it's again, I'm not proclaiming them

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Speaker 1: to be the best team in the AFC, to be

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl favorite. You know, there's lots of teams

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Speaker 1: they have better record than. I'm not sure they're actually

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Speaker 1: better then, but so far in the first half season,

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Speaker 1: they have shown themselves to be pretty darn good, shown

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Speaker 1: themselves to be well coached, and it's the surprise of

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Speaker 1: the year for me, how well the Colts have played

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Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones that quarterback.

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Speaker 7: Can we do an actual look at the Kansas City

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Speaker 7: Chiefs because I don't feel that we ever really look

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Speaker 7: at them in a way that isn't somewhat biased one

503
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Speaker 7: way or another. Starting of the year, zero and two

504
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Speaker 7: hots over, super Bowl hangover, then they go and they

505
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Speaker 7: win five out of six guests, Who's back Kansas City?

506
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Speaker 7: Best team in the NFL? And then we see them

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Speaker 7: loose to the Bills this past weekend. As I mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 7: if the playoffs were to start the day, the Chiefs

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Speaker 7: would not be in the playoffs. They're at five and four,

510
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Speaker 7: so who are they? They don't have a running game.

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Speaker 7: They don't have a running back right now. Their win,

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Speaker 7: their best win on this on the slate, is a

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Speaker 7: home win against the Lions. It's a nice win to

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Speaker 7: take that. Detroit's a very good team. But the Baltimore

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Speaker 7: win lamar Get's hurt in the game. Not that they

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Speaker 7: would have won it if he was healthy, but Baltimore

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Speaker 7: isn't the same. Win against the Giants is nothing. The

518
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Speaker 7: Raiders they blank them thirty one nothing. Raiders aren't any good.

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Speaker 7: The commander said Marcus Mariota is their quarterback. They just

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Speaker 7: said Josh Allen go twenty three to twenty six against them,

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Speaker 7: So really, how good are the Kansas City Chiefs?

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Speaker 2: They're not a playoff team if it started today, right? Yep?

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Speaker 2: And was was Sunday not the smallest biggest game of

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Speaker 2: any weekend. Like for all the hype that CBS gave

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Speaker 2: it and Jim Nantz and Tony Romo did their best

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Speaker 2: to make it sound big, it was almost like and

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Speaker 2: you kind of had to take Josh Allen's lead after

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Speaker 2: the game. He was basically like, we haven't done anything.

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Speaker 2: Like the Bills beat the Chiefs. That's what they do.

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Speaker 2: They just never beat them when they have to. I

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Speaker 2: found that to be interesting. The smallest biggest game of

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Speaker 2: the weekend, Bill's Chiefs camp.

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Speaker 7: It's the rivalry in the NFL. And it looks like

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Speaker 7: it's a seven point loss on the road against Buffalo,

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Speaker 7: which doesn't look bad, but when you dig a little

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Speaker 7: deeper and you watch the game, Buffalo was in pretty

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Speaker 7: good control for that contest.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Drake May, I'm gonna say the I'll

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Speaker 2: say the Patriots, but Drake May let's focus uber focus

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Speaker 2: on the Drake May part of this. Okay, As you

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Speaker 2: guys know, as I've said on this broadcast, I care

542
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Speaker 2: less of sports than I do about how sports is covered.

543
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Speaker 2: I probably follow how sports is covered too much. I

544
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Speaker 2: get real bogged down in the weeds of what people

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Speaker 2: say about it, and I like to point out contradictions

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Speaker 2: and predictions. The Drake May story, guys, and how the

547
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Speaker 2: media has covered this thing has been just laughable. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So let's go back at the beginning of the college

549
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Speaker 2: football season in twenty three. It was like Kayleb Williams,

550
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Speaker 2: Drake May, Drake May or Kerrey Williams. They were by

551
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Speaker 2: far the greatest two quarterbacks that'll ever come out of

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Speaker 2: the of the NFL draft. It was one and two,

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Speaker 2: which one do you swat? Who knows? And then it

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Speaker 2: plays out and Drake May falls, He falls out of favor,

555
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Speaker 2: didn't have a great last season. All of a sudden,

556
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Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels has taken in front of him in the draft.

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Speaker 2: Drake May plays a pretty good rookie season, then gets eight,

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Speaker 2: gets a Mike Rabel season this year, and now everyone's saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: if we redrafted this whole thing. Drake May's at the top.

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Speaker 2: It's obvious Drake May. It's obviously Drake May. So anyways,

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Speaker 2: and Doug just said he's the MVP last segment, So

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Speaker 2: I want to I want people to please be consistent

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Speaker 2: with their coverage. That's all I ask got.

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Speaker 7: Doug had him second in the MVP. Did pick Josh

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Speaker 7: Allen over him, but more so than Patrick Mahomes from

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Speaker 7: what the odds are saying, But yeah, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 7: How about the Ryan Poles piece that came out where

568
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Speaker 7: he put together that that basically disc clip of Drake

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Speaker 7: May when they were evaluating quarterbacks because he so wanted

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Speaker 7: to take Caleb Williams. I love that little nugget that

571
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Speaker 7: we got entering the season and now and now, by

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Speaker 7: the way, do we know if you would take Caleb

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Speaker 7: Jaden Daniels over Caleb Williams, because that was the discussion

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Speaker 7: this whole last I.

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Speaker 2: Mean the end of the season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, right, now, are we.

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Speaker 7: So sure that we want to do that?

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Speaker 2: And you know what people are saying, Well, of course

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Speaker 2: you don't take Jade Williams because he's not he's not available.

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Speaker 2: But I thought coming out of college he was the

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Speaker 2: guy that was too thin and too weak. I thought

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Speaker 2: that was his the knock on him. Now you're gonna

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Speaker 2: knock him for being unavailable. What's going on here? Yes?

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Speaker 7: They last year was just such a funky year for

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Speaker 7: the Commanders.

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Speaker 2: I have.

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Speaker 1: I got a couple other first half of the season,

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Speaker 1: the downfall of the Dolphins is a big story. And

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Speaker 1: it's a big story because, look, we've talked about about

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Speaker 1: Tua over the years, the six years he's been in,

591
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Speaker 1: the injuries, the arm strength or whatever. But Mike McDaniel

592
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Speaker 1: escaped all of this criticism unscathed. Right, he was cool.

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Speaker 1: He's like a hipster coach. He's got the glasses, he's

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Speaker 1: got the joggers. You know, he drives a Bentley. He's

595
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Speaker 1: gotta get swagged to him. Whatever has happened there has

596
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Speaker 1: been an abject disaster, and his GM has already been fired.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they do it to h going

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Speaker 1: going forward. And reports now are that he's safe, but

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Speaker 1: I can't see it that the seasons then well him

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Speaker 1: him being safe. Mike McDaniel going from the snapshot of

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Speaker 1: what the league may people think the league may look

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Speaker 1: like in ten years to being the first coach out

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Speaker 1: that downfall has been passed.

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Speaker 2: Why would McDaniel's joab be safe if they bring in

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Speaker 2: a new GM. Isn't he just going to pick a

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Speaker 2: new head coach. Isn't that the train of thought? Or

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Speaker 2: they're actually gonna keep the head coach.

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Speaker 1: No? I mean, look, I agree with you. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's safe. But they have said, and they leaked

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Speaker 1: to the NFL insiders that oh, they like Mike mdane,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be safe. Like, what are they gonna say?

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Speaker 1: You know, if you say, hey could be coaching for

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Speaker 1: his job. Everybody knows. Everybody knows anyway, but it's the

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Speaker 1: public statement.

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Speaker 7: By the way, I would rather be Chris Greer than

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Speaker 7: Mike McDaniel. I'd rather not have to be at work

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Speaker 7: rather than let go people like man remember the Steve Smith. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I'd much rather be Chris Greer. Move on, look for

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Speaker 7: your next gig. All McDaniel's got to deal with now

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Speaker 7: is this team for the next eight weeks?

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Speaker 2: I thought Ryan Smith had a really good point about

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Speaker 2: the Raiders. What was it, Ryan, He's a big Raiders guy.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I want need to know how in the world

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Speaker 7: did the Raiders beat the Patriots on Week one?

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Speaker 4: How how did that happen?

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Speaker 1: You got throughout Week one results?

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Speaker 7: Right, it's I get that, but it's the Raiders, like

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Speaker 7: how there? I'll tell you what survivor pools. I was

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Speaker 7: on New England week one, lost one of my entries.

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Speaker 7: They played a good half against the Raiders, and then

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Speaker 7: the Raiders, for whatever reason I would class them Gino

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Speaker 7: went through for like three hundred and seventy yards. There

633
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Speaker 7: was no Christian Gonzales for New England at that point.

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Speaker 7: Then the next week the Patriots got into a bit

635
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Speaker 7: of a shootout against the Dolphins. That was a close contest,

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Speaker 7: but New England ends up winning it in the end.

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Speaker 7: So New England was close to maybe starting the year

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Speaker 7: zero to two with losses to the Raiders and Dolphins.

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Speaker 7: And now they're sitting there seven and two atop the conference.

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Speaker 7: And honestly, I don't want to say look unbeatable, because

641
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Speaker 7: they could have very well lost to the Falcons, but

642
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Speaker 7: they were in control of that game against Atlanta and

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Speaker 7: now look like a formidable opponent that come playoff on.

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Speaker 7: Speaking of the Falcons, to me, they're my puzzler. I mean,

645
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Speaker 7: we love Bejon Robinson. We love the running game. That

646
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Speaker 7: division looked like it was up for grabs. And then

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Speaker 7: they play on Monday Night and they have a dominating

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Speaker 7: win against the Buffalo Bills. And then you just throw

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Speaker 7: in a stinker at Carolina. They've been all over the

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Speaker 7: map this year. The Falcons are my puzzler, sitting there

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Speaker 7: at three and five.

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Speaker 1: And that, my friends, is the Midway, the Midway.

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Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports

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Speaker 6: radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: That's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: So full disclosure, my late father was most of you know.

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Speaker 1: He's a basketball coach. It's a longtime college basketball coach

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Speaker 1: for that high school coach, and he's an AU coach,

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Speaker 1: and he would do this thing where couldn't help himself,

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Speaker 1: you know, and all the player tickets are in the

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Speaker 1: same spot, and he would, you know, do his own coaching,

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Speaker 1: sitting there going ah, he can't play, Get him out

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Speaker 1: of there. He stinks, and it's like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: his dad or his mom and his girlfriend's sitting right

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Speaker 1: next to you. So my coach coach moved him to

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Speaker 1: a different area, like away from the rest of the parents,

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Speaker 1: because he couldn't help himself. You have social media, so

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Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter if they're sitting with anybody, not

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Speaker 1: saying anybody, because all takes their fingers and a pressed send.

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Speaker 1: But after the Bears won the game, James Adunza, who's

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Speaker 1: Romadunza's dad, posts the messa on social media that asked

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Speaker 1: whether the Bears would quote trade Rome to a team

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Speaker 1: that will actually throw him the ball. Another post that

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Speaker 1: declared the wide receiver should be seeing at least ten

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Speaker 1: targets per game. Yeah. Yeah, Well, here's the thing. There's

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Speaker 1: a bunch of parts to it. Because James Dunsay, who

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Speaker 1: is on social media, lives in Las Vegas. He has

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Speaker 1: almost four thousand followers on Instagram James and Dunsay. Does

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Speaker 1: he watch film with the team? Does he know the coverages?

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Speaker 1: And oh yeah, by the way, even if he knows

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Speaker 1: the coverages and watches film and knows everything, you don't

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Speaker 1: do that. He can't do that. And while Roma Dunsay doesn't,

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Speaker 1: he's like, I don't even talk with my dad, Like, okay,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The most important part is like it makes

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Speaker 1: it harder for your son at work. Not easier to

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Speaker 1: people who sit there and go like, wow, this is

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Speaker 1: just a sign. Well here, there's a couple of things

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Speaker 1: to it. First part is at least you know what's

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Speaker 1: being said to Roma Dunza when he does call his folks.

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Speaker 1: Now my old high school coach is now my assistant coach.

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Speaker 1: That's weird. Andy Ground. He used to always say, don't

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Speaker 1: worry about parents, O guy. They're blinded by love. Everything

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Speaker 1: they say is blinded by love. And James and Dunsay's

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Speaker 1: comments are blinded by love. But they're also just blind

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Speaker 1: to the Nobody does that in the NFL. You're a

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Speaker 1: grown up and you're acting like a child. You got

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Speaker 1: to my guy's ball. We gonna get rid of Like dude,

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Speaker 1: here's his son, Roma Dunze responding to it.

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Speaker 4: I don't make a big deal out of it. You know,

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Speaker 4: obviously he has his opinions, I have mind, and he

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Speaker 4: feels like he needs to voice those things on social media.

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Speaker 1: But you know that's that's that's his prerogative.

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Speaker 4: But you know, he speaks for himself.

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Speaker 2: I speak for myself.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy, I'm I'm just trying to do my job

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Speaker 2: within this you know organization, that's you.

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Speaker 1: Know, as a leader, as a as.

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Speaker 2: A person, as an individual, and then as a football player.

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Speaker 4: So trying to excel at you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Hall of Fame level in both those aspects. So

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Speaker 2: that's all I'm focused on, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, a perfectly professional answer, and I take him

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Speaker 1: at his word. But like you're you're a parent, you're

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Speaker 1: a giver of DNA, and I'm sure you've done a

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Speaker 1: ton to get your kid into this position, right, get

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Speaker 1: him into this position. But dude, taking it on the

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Speaker 1: social media is like a high school kid complaining about

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Speaker 1: catches has no effect other than making your son super

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Speaker 1: uncomfortable because no matter how much they say, hey, you

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Speaker 1: speak for he speaks for himself. I speak for myself.

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Speaker 1: We don't talk that much. Everybody thinks otherwise, and now

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Speaker 1: it's just awkward needlessly. So I think, can we are

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Speaker 1: we also all in agreement? And a buyer's probably an

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Speaker 1: agreement with this too. Antonio Brown having legal troubles post

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Speaker 1: NFL career. In the predictability matrix, it was pretty it

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Speaker 1: was pretty easy to predict, right, Like, did anybody think, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, He's gonna turn his life around? He's gonna

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Speaker 1: speak at schools, He's gonna be a church going citizen

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Speaker 1: like that tracks and that again, nobody thought attempted murderer.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that he's has legal troubles, everybody's their heads.

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Speaker 1: Let's welcome in our good friend who joins us every week.

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Speaker 1: He's Mark Dominic. He's been the general manager of the

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Speaker 1: Tampay Buccaneers twenty five plus years in the National Football League, scouting,

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Speaker 1: moving up to the front office. All the things, Mark,

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about bow Knicks. My take,

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Speaker 1: there were some that are like, oh, bo Nicks is regressing.

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Speaker 1: May want to look at a quarterback. If you're Denver,

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Speaker 1: you got everything but an offense. My thing is like, look,

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Speaker 1: they're winning, and one of the reasons they're winning is

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Speaker 1: their defense. One of the reasons they're defense so good

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Speaker 1: is they don't play the quarterback bubkiss. I just the

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Speaker 1: warning is, don't overpay in the second contract, right, that's

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Speaker 1: the Tua thing. That's all these the Danny Dimes thing.

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Speaker 1: Don't overpay in the second contract. Don't worry about moving

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Speaker 1: on now, worry about just trying to do the best

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Speaker 1: you can and using all that money. Where are you

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Speaker 1: on bow Knicks currently and in his near term future

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Speaker 1: with the Broncos.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm with you. I mean, I think I'm very

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Speaker 5: comfortable to both Nicks, and I think that even though

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Speaker 5: sometimes tea man, i'd be playing to the level I've

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Speaker 5: seen Bonis play before. To your point, he's in the

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Speaker 5: second year of a rookie deal. There's no rush here

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Speaker 5: for anybody, the Denver Broncos, their fans, or the organization.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna be patient with him. Let him continue to play,

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Speaker 5: let him continue to grow, and as long as they

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Speaker 5: continue to win, I don't care what it looks like.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm gonna worry about Bonick. To your point, Doug,

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Speaker 5: I'll worry about bone Nicks after year four. I don't

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Speaker 5: have to do a deal after year three. There's some

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Speaker 5: there's no written code here that says every player that

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Speaker 5: gets to year three has to get a deal, And

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Speaker 5: I think that's the way you can look at it.

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Speaker 5: But I think that Bonnicks is gonna be fine, and

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Speaker 5: I think that the Denver Broncos are finding a way

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Speaker 5: to get to maybe a tougher journey right now offensively,

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Speaker 5: But it doesn't scare me to have him as my quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. H let's

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Speaker 1: start with the Sauce Gardner trade before we get to

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Speaker 1: the Quinna Williams trade. Let's start from the Jets perspective.

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Speaker 1: Do you like to move from the Jets perspective? I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't love it, right, And here's the way. Yes,

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Speaker 5: first round picks or two first round picks, and that

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Speaker 5: sounds well and good, but the reality is you got

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Speaker 5: to go make the right picks. All right. You can

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Speaker 5: pick a cornerback in the first round and he's not

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Speaker 5: very good and he turns out to be a bust.

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Speaker 5: You can you can take I mean just because you

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Speaker 5: get collateral, I means you've got to still number one,

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Speaker 5: replace the player that you drafted in some capacity, and

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Speaker 5: then you have an extra pick to hopefully not get wrong.

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Speaker 5: That's not as easy as it sounds. So I think

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Speaker 5: that when I looked at this trade, I said, I

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Speaker 5: think the Jets are doing themselves a disservice by just

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Speaker 5: jettising as sorry about that, but getting rid of all

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Speaker 5: their players in terms of you know, trying to Okay,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna we're gonna build this team out different. By

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Speaker 5: the way, those guys are still younger players in the

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Speaker 5: National Football League, and so now you're just going to

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Speaker 5: try to make this thing even more difficult to rebuild.

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Speaker 5: I just think it's a really tough move for Aaron Glenn.

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Speaker 5: But to me, if Aaron Glenn's willing to trade a corner,

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Speaker 5: maybe there's something more. I don't understand what was going

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Speaker 5: on behind the scenes. That to me is kind of

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Speaker 5: a bigger surprise based off his position. I love the

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Speaker 5: deal for the Colts. I think it makes a ton

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Speaker 5: of sense for them. They are in an opportunity right

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Speaker 5: now to win the South and let alone maybe see

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Speaker 5: what they can do in the postseason. So I think

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Speaker 5: the Colts it's worth giving up to once. I think

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Speaker 5: it's a good move by them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now do Quinn Williams. Let's start with the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense to the Jets?

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Speaker 5: Again, I don't think so. You know, they got a

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Speaker 5: guy named Jawan Briggs who's played pretty well inside for

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Speaker 5: them and on the defensive line. But quinnin Williams, you know,

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Speaker 5: he was a baby coming into the league. He's still

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Speaker 5: a young man for a second round pick. Again, I'd

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Speaker 5: rather just have the player, and I can make that trade,

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Speaker 5: probably pre draft, but let's let's kind of see what

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Speaker 5: this team kind of unfolds. How a season of folds

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Speaker 5: the Jets to me, they must have gone to Woody Johnson.

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Speaker 5: They had a conversation said, hey, look, we're not going

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Speaker 5: to win this year. Seasons tanked, probably end up put

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Speaker 5: the number one pick. Let's rebuild the team from the start.

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Speaker 5: And what I think Aaron Glenn probably did is we

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Speaker 5: did the same thing dead in Detroit. Let us do

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Speaker 5: it here. And I have a feeling Woody Johnson bought

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Speaker 5: and I think I don't love the trade. I think

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Speaker 5: for Dallas it's a much better deal for the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: Even though Dallas is admitting their first round pick, Mabbie Smith,

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Speaker 5: who they thought was gonna be a player, they've already

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Speaker 5: replaced it with Kenny Clark and Naquin and Williams. So

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Speaker 5: clearly they missed on their first round pick as well.

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Speaker 1: Stut Gottlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio and the

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. Mark Dominic is our guest. Okay, so they've

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Speaker 1: you know, the Jets have waived the white flag. We

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Speaker 1: know they're in a race. I just think I agree

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Speaker 1: with you, But to me, it's all positioning themselves to

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Speaker 1: get the quarterback that they want. Is that? Is that fair?

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Speaker 1: Like they're just sitting there going You had the owners

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Speaker 1: say they couldn't complete a pass, and yeah, then fields

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Speaker 1: had one good game. But to me, this is all

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Speaker 1: about loading up with picks to completely you're because you're

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Speaker 1: not saying you're not gonna win this year. You're saying

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna win for a couple of years. Right.

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Speaker 1: You can't get rid of your to your most or

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Speaker 1: maybe your two most talented young players and hope to

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Speaker 1: compete anytime soon. So you're going for a complete remodel.

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Speaker 1: And the first focus is you got to have enough

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Speaker 1: first round picks to get the quarterback that you want

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Speaker 1: and then work out the rest, probably trading those picks

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Speaker 1: to get other multiple picks. Fair guess on what they're

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Speaker 1: looking at doing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think the one

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Speaker 5: thing I would be thinking about is the Jets GM

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Speaker 5: and I was in this situation is each draft, I

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Speaker 5: would probably try to take one of my if I

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Speaker 5: have an extra first, try to you know, move that

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Speaker 5: back and get an extra first the next year and

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Speaker 5: pick up an extra third, like so I can continue to,

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Speaker 5: you know, have high picks. I think the Jets are

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Speaker 5: going to end up with the number one pick in

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Speaker 5: the draft, and so I don't think you had to

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Speaker 5: do this to make sure you get the quarterback you want.

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Speaker 5: I think you just you're going to end up there

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Speaker 5: either way. I think they're making sure they end up

860
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Speaker 5: there by the moves they've made. You know, just yes,

861
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Speaker 5: you've got to find the quarterback. This league is about

862
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Speaker 5: signing the quarterback. That's all that matters.

863
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Speaker 1: Really.

864
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 5: Yes, you want to build around them and all that

865
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 5: good stuff, but you've got to find that quarterback and

866
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Speaker 5: then you have a chance to win. I've said the

867
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 5: story maybe before, but TJ. Watt or JJ Watt was

868
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 5: the best defensive player in the league forever right, for

869
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 5: five six years, and you could only get at that

870
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 5: time the Houston Texans and nine and seven. They turn

871
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 5: around to get Deshaun Watson when he was good, and

872
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 5: suddenly the Houston Texans are a twelve win team. I mean,

873
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 5: it just shows you the impact that that quarterback position has.

874
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 5: So I get that the Jets want to make sure

875
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Speaker 5: they get that guy, but I feel like they've pulled

876
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 5: away so much from that team that even if they

877
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 5: get that guy, they still got to protect that guy.

878
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 5: And then they you know, running back's already shown that

879
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 5: he's been on the trading block, so he's not probably

880
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 5: coming back. Garrett Williams is probably looking around going, I

881
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 5: don't know what's going to happen to me, So you know,

882
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 5: it's It just creates a lot of uncertainty. I don't

883
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 5: love it, but I understand the Jets. I fundamentally believe

884
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 5: they've sold the owner. We're going to rebuild this whole

885
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 5: thing and start over instead of trying to piece mail it.

886
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 5: And I think that's what they did.

887
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: And what hey Johnson thought, Yep, you and I are

888
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: a completely lockstep here. What do you do with Kyler

889
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: Murray for the Arizona Cardinals.

890
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get I think he's done his last snap.

891
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 5: And I say that because just watching Kyler in the system,

892
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 5: watching the games, watching his interaction with other players and

893
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 5: other teammates. You know, if you really watch the Arizona Cardinals,

894
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 5: there's a lot of throws. He may not have the

895
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 5: bad completion percentage, there's a lot of throws that he

896
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 5: didn't make that are you know, complete or he didn't

897
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 5: see or just higher completion plays where you're like, you

898
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 5: got to make that play if you're a quarterback at

899
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 5: this level. And I have a feeling Manti Austin Ford,

900
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 5: the general manager there, who didn't do the deal, who

901
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 5: didn't draft him in the first place, has looked at

902
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 5: and said, this is not the leader we're looking for,

903
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 5: and so therefore, let's move on. Let's put him on

904
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 5: ir let's make sure he doesn't have something more catastrophic

905
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 5: for an injury, and let's just move on. So I

906
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 5: don't think Kyler Murray's an Arizona Cardinal in twenty twenty

907
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 5: six at all. And I don't know if he's going

908
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 5: to see another stand. I don't think he'll see another

909
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 5: snap in twenty twenty five.

910
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: Right, because then if he gets hurt, then you're probably

911
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: you got you're underwater for a future years contract that

912
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: you don't want to be underwater for. Okay, now let

913
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: me put you back in the seat as a general

914
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: manager for a team that doesn't have a quarterback. Are

915
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: you interested in Kyler Murray?

916
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 5: No, I'm not. You know, I'm gonna bet my I mean,

917
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 5: there's just been too many little red flags across the bow,

918
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 5: you know, And I appreciate that Arizona said, look, let's

919
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 5: restart this whole thing, and let's kind of figure this out,

920
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 5: and let's let's see if we can get this Coup

921
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 5: Murray thing to work. But the reality is, when Steve Kin,

922
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 5: the former general manager, wrote the art, wrote the contract

923
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 5: to make sure that he would actually watch film and

924
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 5: not participate in video games or whatever, that whole clause

925
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 5: was that they finally pulled back out. It was such

926
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 5: a bad look. It spoke so deeply to his level

927
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 5: of love of the game to me that it would

928
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 5: make me say, as much as I'd like i'm quarterback list,

929
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 5: I might be better off trying to see if I

930
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 5: can find that guy in the mid round, or go

931
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 5: find the older guy that you know has still got

932
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 5: something left in him, instead of going with the guy

933
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 5: that I'm afraid the team dynamics won't be great even

934
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Speaker 5: if he plays well for four or five games.

935
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Speaker 1: I hear you, what do you think of the Bengals

936
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 1: and a couple of the defensive players openly complaining about

937
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: the offense and saying to just get a stop after

938
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: they lost to the Bears, last weekend.

939
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's a it's a hard game, right,

940
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 5: it's to kind of see what happened. You know, they've

941
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 5: gone to Bengals has certainly gone through so tough things.

942
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 5: You watch Cam Taylor britt and they bench him and

943
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 5: then they turn around and let him put to the

944
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 5: cornerback for the Bengals. Then they put him back on

945
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 5: the field and he kind of shuts down roma dunes

946
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 5: lay the whole game. But they still score forty points.

947
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 5: You know, it's it's they're not getting home. They're not

948
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 5: getting to the pass rush. You know, as much as

949
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson is trying to do as much as he can,

950
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 5: some of the guys they have on the defensive front,

951
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 5: whether it's Chris Jenkins, he's a run stuffer, but he's

952
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 5: still seemed some time to try to get to the

953
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 5: quarterback and that's just not happening for them. So they're

954
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 5: lacking pass rush not only just you know, depth, but

955
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 5: actually interior pass rush and push and that's killing this

956
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 5: team defensively in my opinion, and that's keeping them on

957
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 5: the field. You know, I don't think he decides to

958
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 5: point fingers right now. It's been frustrating. They have signs

959
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 5: of life. But I think now it's the time where

960
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 5: not a player's only meeting but Zach Taylor will take

961
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 5: care of it and get and get him together. Say

962
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 5: let's stop pointing fingers at each other, point him as yourself,

963
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 5: and make sure we're doing what we're supposed to be

964
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Speaker 5: doing individually.

965
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Speaker 1: Yeah it sounds good, but once once the cats out

966
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: the back, once the defense is calling them out, it's

967
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Speaker 1: really any other comments that they make, won't you know,

968
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Speaker 1: I won't resonate in any sort of way. Mark, great stuff.

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Speaker 1: As always, thanks so much for joining us, have a

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Speaker 1: great weekend. We appreciate you being our guest on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on, Doug, enjoy your weekend.

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Speaker 2: Buy