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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to sixty five,

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Speaker 1: Episode two of Dirt Daily. Like Guys Day, production of

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, this is a podcast where we take

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Wednesday, November two,

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Speaker 1: which of course means the last day of November. Right,

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Speaker 1: there's days half November? Is that correct? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that, like Ryan thing, I just kind

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Speaker 1: of I'm always like vibing out which days have thirty

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Speaker 1: and thirty one, and then I think the one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just vibe, but I'm like, I feel like this

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Speaker 1: is one of those thirty months. Yeah. And also that's

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Speaker 1: that's how you know I'm able to excuse my late

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Speaker 1: payments on my bills. It was like, I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 1: was vibing out the month. I didn't know it was

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Speaker 1: the first two days ago. That's on me. But it's

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Speaker 1: also stay home because you're well. Day on know what?

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Speaker 1: That is? National Personal Space Day, National Moose Day as

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Speaker 1: an m O U. S S. National Mississippi Day, National

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Speaker 1: Mason Jar Day. Okay, shout out the hipsters remember that.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we still we still have some leftover, like

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Speaker 1: most of our glasses in our house. We're still make

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Speaker 1: some mason jars. It's one of those things you feel

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Speaker 1: bad throwing away too. Yeah, it's all just left over

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Speaker 1: from you know, our canning period when the peaches are right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're just like ship that we bought that came in

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Speaker 1: a mason jar, which was a lot of stuff for

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Speaker 1: a long time, and free creak ups, even though you

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Speaker 1: can recycle them. I just feel like, well, that's a jar,

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Speaker 1: you know, that has use. But I have literally there's

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Speaker 1: a whole shelf in my kitchen all because I remember

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Speaker 1: in the beginning of the pandemic, like if you order

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Speaker 1: alcohol sometimes like and that comes in a mason jar,

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Speaker 1: and I have two of those from my very expensive

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Speaker 1: pandemic drinking. And it's like you save your yogurt save

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Speaker 1: tubs and they just become our tupper where we had

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Speaker 1: a lot of yogurt tubs, while we have one Country

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Speaker 1: Croc margarine tub there. You know, as someone, as any

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Speaker 1: good American, will you must have your Country Croc tub A. No,

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Speaker 1: not too many of yoker tubs. Now, Well, now that

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Speaker 1: we've settled that, we also said before we started recording

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Speaker 1: that the plural of computer mouses computer mice we correct

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Speaker 1: us if we're wrong. This is just we've stopped googling

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Speaker 1: things and we just like put it out on the

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Speaker 1: podcast and the people. Well, after that sin Bad Thing,

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Speaker 1: the sim Bad shows Am things, so many people were

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Speaker 1: hitting us up on Twitter with like, it's actually this

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Speaker 1: plus and Kell Yeah yeah all that sketch when he

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Speaker 1: was on All that Plus at the CHRISTI Yamagucci man

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Speaker 1: came through with like a whole he deemed me. I

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Speaker 1: think he really wanted to make sure this this this

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Speaker 1: across Well, we'll we'll get into it in a moment. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's get into it first. I have to introduce myself.

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Speaker 1: My name is, of course Jack O'Brien, a k rise

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Speaker 1: up this morning needing some hydration. Three mountain dudes sit

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Speaker 1: on my desktop singing sweet songs of calories pure and true.

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Speaker 1: Say yeah, this is my mountain of do oh. That

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Speaker 1: is courtesy Christie. I'm a Gucci mane and I'm thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be joined. As always buy my co host, Mr

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Speaker 1: Miles Grab just goes out to everybody who was coping

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Speaker 1: during your Thanksgiving dinner. Dad, I am the one racist

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Speaker 1: as fuck Grandma stiff In for your trees eating up

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Speaker 1: all the cheese dead. I am the sky, Christian Uncle Roy.

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Speaker 1: While I slowly turned he quotes feed or certain dig

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Speaker 1: through the kitchens and passed through funk friends off to

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Speaker 1: the go rage for that coping blood. Okay, shout out

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Speaker 1: to everybody who had to hit a coping blunt during Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: You know it happens, or exactly, Christian Uncle Roy. I

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Speaker 1: to overtly Christian Uncle Roy or shout out to the

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Speaker 1: one thing that everyone does where all the you know,

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Speaker 1: the family members of a certain generation go take that

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Speaker 1: walk to the store or park and then, you know,

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Speaker 1: and then say leave your jacket here, man, you won't

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Speaker 1: put that shirt on we get back, so it just

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Speaker 1: covers it up anyway, Thank you too. I think that

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Speaker 1: was LACARRONI shout out to LACARRONI shout out to my

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Speaker 1: cousins who stopped inviting me on that after I got

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Speaker 1: too high one time and just started spouting gibberish. Miles

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Speaker 1: the man, he's freaking me out. I just like started

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Speaker 1: speaking backwards for a little bit, like I I grayed

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Speaker 1: was like, uh, do we need to take him to

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Speaker 1: the hospital. Anyways, we are thrilled to be joined in

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Speaker 1: our third seat by an activist, advocate, and survivor who

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Speaker 1: hosts the new podcast Survivor's Hell, which tackles the constructs

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Speaker 1: that keep the cycles of violent spinning and our culture.

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Speaker 1: It's Oh, yeah, l Charred, what's up? Hey, welcome? How

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Speaker 1: are you? I'm good. How are you guys doing? Oh

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Speaker 1: you're doing well doing. How's your Thanksgiving? I was good,

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Speaker 1: it was good. I did um some home cooking, and

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Speaker 1: then I went and spent all my appetite with family.

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Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. Yeah, I was just

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Speaker 1: I was in the Bay Area, which was really nice.

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Speaker 1: To keep the weather up there stays cool. I always

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Speaker 1: like that about the Bay Area. Oh yeah, are you

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Speaker 1: familiar with the Sinbad Kazam Shazam whole business? Yeah? It was.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know. It all is a jumpl though.

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Speaker 1: When I think about it, I'm like, is it Kazam

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Speaker 1: or was it was? It was he Shazam? And then

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Speaker 1: you gotta think like, okay, are we just in parallel

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Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to right. We talked about it

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Speaker 1: yesterday it is episode and a lot of listeners were like, actually,

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Speaker 1: this has been solved, and they sent some sketches wherein

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Speaker 1: Simbad had his arms crossed like I imagined on the

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Speaker 1: VHS cover in my brain. They sent a still from

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Speaker 1: a like yeah, a promo on a TV but like,

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Speaker 1: none of these things that I've ever seen before. So

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Speaker 1: it like even though it's been solved in the in

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Speaker 1: the sense that we know where the different and then

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Speaker 1: of course you have Kazam, so like we somehow pasted

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Speaker 1: Simbad's face over Shack's face and then like photo shopped

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Speaker 1: this new VHS cover. It's still so fascinating to me

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Speaker 1: and like so mysterious to me the way that that

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Speaker 1: worked just for everyone, like whether you saw that ship

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Speaker 1: or not, Like somehow everybody else seeing that like put

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Speaker 1: that into my brain in some way, and that's how

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Speaker 1: know how it got in my brain, but it is.

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Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting it's from a parallel. It's the most

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Speaker 1: powerful one though, because I think we all feel like

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Speaker 1: we can figure out how we got there, but we

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Speaker 1: can't find the threats. You know, Like even Christie, I'm

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Speaker 1: a Gucci mane, He's like, Hey, this sketch from all

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Speaker 1: gun image. I feel that, like I'm really I feel

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Speaker 1: like we're all conflating. But it's I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't. The Internet hasn't found it yet, and

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Speaker 1: the internet is good at finding that ship. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It is the stated subject of this podcast,

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Speaker 1: the show talking about that, even though it has nothing

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Speaker 1: and it's an old ask Mandela effect. It's the oldest

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Speaker 1: everybody's covered it, and then everyone was like, Yo, this

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Speaker 1: has been solved, but it's still very interesting to me,

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Speaker 1: for the same reason that most of the stuff we

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Speaker 1: There was? Was there not? There wasn't. That's the thing is,

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Speaker 1: we're all wrestling with oia didn't happen, and we're just

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Speaker 1: sifting of that memory. The man never played a genie

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Speaker 1: And that's that's all we got. He never played a

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Speaker 1: imagery and be like, I'm thoroughly I'm thoroughly convinced it's

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Speaker 1: just some weird alchemy about the way a group of

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Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners what we're talking about today.

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Speaker 1: In the final episode of The Daily Zeitgeist, we are

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Speaker 1: talking about the Republican National Committee just trying to figure

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Speaker 1: happened to that red wave. So we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: what what we're they're looking for answers and the answers

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Speaker 1: about a couple of taste tests that we came across

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Speaker 1: from the media. I came across the media. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to love you into this stupid ship. So somebody

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Speaker 1: talked about a ketchup taste tests, saying you might want

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Speaker 1: to revisit the standard Hunts versus Hines taste tests. All

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Speaker 1: of that plenty more. But first, oh yeah, we like

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Speaker 1: to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?

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Speaker 1: The people are not gonna like this. Um. I actually

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Speaker 1: in my search history. Like at like three o'clock in

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Speaker 1: the morning, I was actually looking up our Zuli Red Eyes,

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Speaker 1: which is apparently a Voodoo deity that is synchronized with

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Speaker 1: like the Black Madonna, and she is like the patron

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Speaker 1: saint of domestic violence victims, and she protects women and

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Speaker 1: she protects children, um lesbians in particular. Interesting but yeah,

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Speaker 1: and like but she's like supposed to be like like

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Speaker 1: just like sticks more because you get in the habit.

424
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Speaker 1: But how about you, Yeah, I I did dream journal previously,

425
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: but I did I did have to stop as well,

426
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: because I do think that it kind of gets you

427
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: a lot more into those kind of lucid dreams and

428
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: like your dreams just get way more intense for some

429
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: reason when you're paying that not much attention to it

430
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: and you're waking times. And but sometimes I just like

431
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: write down like little pieces that I remember, Like actually,

432
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: that's how I found Zuli red Eyes because I just

433
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: googled an image that I saw in my dream, which

434
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: was a woman with red eyes, and that's who came up. Wow.

435
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: So did were you familiar with Resuli red Eye before

436
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: red Eyes before you like had that dream? No? Not really? Wow? Yeah.

437
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: Powerful the unconscious mind more more powerful than anything we

438
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: know about, like anything signs was created. I feel, yeah,

439
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 1: I was. I almost started dream journaling because man, this

440
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: assistant sounds so stupid. But when Inception came out, people

441
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, man, you should think about lucid dreaming

442
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: because that's where that's like, that's where it's at. And

443
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, right, And I was like,

444
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: as I you know, it looked into that more a lot.

445
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: Like one of the steps is to start dream journaling

446
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: because you want to you want to put yourself in

447
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: that cycle of being bringing consciousness to your dreams or

448
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: at least being able to, like immediately after you sleep,

449
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: just writing it down because that's how you're going to

450
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: be able to lucid dream more. But I just got.

451
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: I just forgot, and I got lazy, and I was like,

452
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: there's not a there's not an eyemask you could wear

453
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: for that or something. Yeah I could. I could say

454
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: that I stopped to dream journaling because it was too powerful,

455
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: and I did. The world wasn't ready for what I

456
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: was discovering in there. But it was just laziness. It

457
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: was just like that started being like, now I don't

458
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: I don't want to put us I don't want to

459
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: put us all at risk. But Jack and Oya, have

460
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: y'all ever had a dream where you're at a movie

461
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: theater and you look on screen and there's a genie

462
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: coming out of the mile stop and he's like light

463
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: skin brother named Simbad and the movie was called Sam.

464
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: Do you remember this? I think we all had that dream?

465
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: Thank you? Okay, I'm just or was it a dream?

466
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: And that's why that challenge us all to say, was

467
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: that a dream? Or was that real? Do you ever

468
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: have the one where you can't run because like there's

469
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: no gravity, like you can't get any purchase on the ground,

470
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: like no traction? Yeah, no, traction and so you're running,

471
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: but like your feet are just like floating like you

472
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: in off the Yeah, it's like that. That's that's my

473
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: version of the slow punches. But yeah, whenever I'm trying to,

474
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, do anything physical, I'm suddenly in water. Like

475
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: my my motion feels like very restraint and I'm not

476
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: gonna dig deeper into that has nothing to do with

477
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: the fact that I didn't get on the high school

478
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: basketball team and nothing. Just go on, Jack, I mean,

479
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: let's why am I on trial right now? Oh? Yeah? What?

480
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: What's some other stuff that you've found through like dream interpretation?

481
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: Like Young has a whole philosophy on this. He has

482
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: the big Red book that has like focuses on all

483
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: these different icons of like shared dreams, and Young is

484
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: very into the shared consciousness. But what what what jumps

485
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: out to you when you think about like dream interpretation, Well,

486
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: you know what, I think that it's so funny because

487
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that like get put into

488
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: like like the the magic witchcraft kind of category, even

489
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: though in Judaeo Christian texts they talk about you know,

490
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: different saints going to get their dreams to interpret it,

491
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, or or even the religious figures having the

492
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: power to interpret dreams, you know. And so I just

493
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: think that, you know, if we were less afraid of it,

494
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, like um so of the some of the

495
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: knowledge and just emotional maturity that we can probably access

496
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: by examining what is like in our subconscious unconscious mind,

497
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: I think it would it would be pretty culture changing.

498
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: That's just me though. I mean, like I have to

499
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: the ideas there, like and then he had a dream

500
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: of a ladder and that's how he figured out that,

501
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: like he was going to move his family to a

502
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: different town, and like, yeah, they're they were very serious

503
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: about their dreams in the Bible. But even like inventors

504
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: and stuff, right, like a lot of like inventors, like

505
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: in people who have discovered like new technologies and you know,

506
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: are like that a lot of them that started with

507
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: a dream. So I don't know, I just think, Yeah,

508
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: there's one. I think it's the Mobia strip, but I

509
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: could be wrong. But there's one scientific discovery or maybe

510
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: it was the aura borus. It was like one scientist

511
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 1: was like trying to figure out this thing for a

512
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: long time and it was like super important and it

513
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: took him like he was thinking about it for months

514
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: and then he had a dream of a snake eating

515
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: its tail and that's how the idea for like what

516
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: the structure of the thing was. That people are probably

517
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: the people who know the story are probably screaming. So

518
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: super producer Justin is saying, the double helix, the double

519
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: helix they actually thought of on LSD while experimenting with LSD,

520
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: so which is another like way of getting at that

521
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: unconscious part of the mind. But like the shape actually

522
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: came to came to them. Well all right, because it

523
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: seems like those those realizations come because you're operating in

524
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: a state of consciousness that isn't like bound to the

525
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: physical world. So because of that, possibilities are infinite, you know.

526
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: And I think that's man, Okay, maybe I'll start dream generally. Yeah,

527
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: what the fun is up? And I think the first

528
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: thirty minutes of every episode should be us just talking

529
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: talking about our dreams from now and I think people

530
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: would be into that. Yeah, oh man, you should have

531
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: seen it. Man, Lebron James actually hitting some of these dreams.

532
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm happing. Alright, let's take a quick break, we'll come back.

533
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: We'll catch up on some news and we're back, and

534
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: they're actually a bunch of just going going back to

535
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: the thing we were talking about, there's a bunch of

536
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: examples of scientific discoveries that happened in dreams. Dmitri metal

537
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: Leev was trying to figure out a logical way to

538
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: organize the chemical elements, and he had a dream and

539
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: the periodic table just like fell on a table in

540
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: front of him, and that's how he came up with

541
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: a periodic table. Well, August was working on how worrying

542
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: about how the atoms and benzene were arranged, and he

543
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: fell asleep and began dreaming of Adams dancing. Gradually, the

544
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: atoms arranged themselves into the shape of a snake. Then

545
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: the snake turned around and did its own tail, and

546
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: that's how he figured out that it was like made

547
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: up of rings of carbon atoms. Which it's yes wild,

548
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: It's like your brain has access to this creative power

549
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: that we just like, don't you know, we we just

550
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: don't give a credit for or we just don't even

551
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: watch really pay to pay that much attention to it. Right,

552
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: And I think it's chemically induced. I mean I don't

553
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 1: like there's there's some magic to that, right, just as

554
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: much as there's magic chemistry, right, but there I really

555
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: do think it's like like the ellis the natural LSD

556
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: that's in our brains, like you know, that's influenced by

557
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: like the I don't even know, Maybe this is totally

558
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: unscientific in but it's like there's like maybe I don't know,

559
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: gamma raised or some ship I don't know that they

560
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: used to call it the ether, like, but there's like

561
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: some universal energy that I feel like we're all kind

562
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: of influenced by and like chemically though, and that's what

563
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: we're tapping into. Yeah, I mean a lot of the

564
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: drugs that we do, or like the altered states come

565
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: from chemicals that are inside our mind, right, Like we

566
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: the pills are the things that we take give the

567
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: brain permission or like directions to produce it. But like

568
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: that is stuff that's already in there. And yeah, just

569
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: to like the overall like cultural picture, I feel like,

570
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, we we've gone down this path of science

571
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: for so long that we now just assume everything has

572
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: a rational, scientific, analytical, you know, reason based explanation, and

573
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: that has caused us culturally to you know, shut off

574
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: an entire very important part of like sort of the

575
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: the mystery side of like human experience and the you know,

576
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: human power. So yeah, I don't know. This is my

577
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: favorite episode mysteries we've ever done. I just it's wild

578
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: to think that, like the drug war is literally holding

579
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: us back from being like, yeah, man, the secret was

580
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: in uh psychedelics the whole time, the whole time, the

581
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: whole time. It was that actually, right, the secret to

582
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: world peace. Yeah, because everybody like let their egos dissolve,

583
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: they saw the interconnectedness of our situation and realize, oh,

584
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: we need to take up for each other. That's wow,

585
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: right there, I solved it. Oh my gosh, I knew

586
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: everything was going to be solved on TBC. I think

587
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 1: I dropped it. Actually, we even need to talk about

588
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: Republicans now. I feel like, let's talk about Shazam because

589
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: we're making that movie. I don't give a funk. Like

590
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: I said, we have to deep fake it. We're gonna

591
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: deep fake it. I think somebody already deep faked. I

592
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: think Funny or Die or like, yeah, I think College

593
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: Humor did one. But wasn't it with him in it? Though? Yeah?

594
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: It was? No. No, I'm going We're going back I'm

595
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna make it look like it was made

596
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 1: in ninety two. Like that's the kind that's the level

597
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: of authenticity we're gonna pursue. Or we will look in

598
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: every you know, municipal dump and try and excavate a

599
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: loose VHS tape of the real because I am now

600
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: chasm truther. Alright, So I mean people struggling to come

601
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: up with a solution to something, some people who might

602
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: want to look in their dreams. The Republican National Committee

603
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: imagine it isn't a bit of a tough spot. They

604
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: can't they can't get their mind around this ship. I'm

605
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: just like, what, but what happened? They blew it all on.

606
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: They said, the red wave that's coming, y'all empty your pockets.

607
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: Now we got this. We're gonna put the finishing touches

608
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: on curb stomping democracy. Y'all just give us your money

609
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: and we will deliver. Then they only like eked out

610
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: the House by a couple of seats. Uh, The Senate

611
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: did not go. There was nothing like a wave and

612
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: all that anger. Now they're trying to figure out what

613
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: to do in the confusion, right, and all this disappointment

614
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: has led to all kinds of chaos, But the biggest

615
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: question that lingers is how the heck did we lose? So,

616
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's the kind of rage that

617
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: has even inspired as of now, the my pillow guy,

618
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: Mike Lindell, he's saying, you know what, I should be

619
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: running for the head of the r n C. I'm

620
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: gonna play that for you real quick, because he's very

621
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: confident about his ability to unseat Rona McDaniel. I am

622
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: one running for the RNC chairman against Rona McDaniel. I'm

623
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: all in Steve, and uh. One of the things that

624
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: one of the big donors said to me, he said, Mike,

625
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: he said, everybody wants you to be head of the RNC.

626
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: Some of them just don't know it yet. Yeah, none

627
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: of that is true. I'm sure. I'm sure that's how

628
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: all these grifters talked. They were like, yo, man, I

629
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: will on a plane and this soldier came up to me.

630
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: He had just been shot through his chest in Iraq,

631
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: but he came up to me despite his injuries. He

632
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: walked all the way to tell me, thank you for

633
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: what I am doing, and then he patched away in

634
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: the aisle and became an angel and flew off. And

635
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: I remember he did tell me this because it did happen,

636
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: Like they always have stories like this about someone I

637
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: won't name. Big up me. Uh, And that's why my

638
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: ego is just going wild. Steve job right before he died,

639
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: call me and tell me to be president. It was

640
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: in a dream. Was in a dream, Steve. I'm telling you,

641
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: Steve Bannon, it was in a dream. And those have meanings,

642
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: so you know. Right now, I think to to figure

643
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: all of that out, Like, why is why did the

644
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: RNC lose so bad? How is it that racism, misogyny,

645
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: and homophobia could be so unpopular with normal people? How

646
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: is this possible? The RNC must have been thinking of themselves. Well,

647
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: now they're putting together a very serious group of the

648
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: most out of touch people to assess what went wrong

649
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: well with the mid term strategy. Their RNC chair, current

650
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: chair Rona McDaniel told this said this quote. As we

651
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: assess the mid terms and planning for four we are

652
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: gathering a diverse range of respected leaders in our movement

653
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: to join together and help chart a winning course in

654
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: the years to come. I am thrilled that this talented

655
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: group of Republicans will be uh will be shoulder to

656
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: shoulder with us as we work to grow our party,

657
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: hold Democrats accountable and whatever, Republicans something something. So all

658
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: that to say is they've put together just this the

659
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: Avengers of of Republican operatives. So that means Kelly Anne Conaway,

660
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: former White House advisor, evangelical leader Tony Perkins, a black

661
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: guy who's a Republican who's just happens to be in office.

662
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: So they're like, oh, yeah, you get him to get

663
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: some of these other uh like any like Latin X

664
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 1: people we have from like Texas, get a couple of them,

665
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: and let's get Blake Masters, who absolutely has no business

666
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: only anybody. What went wrong in when he is what

667
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: went wrong in Peter Teal's like dedicated lackey, right, he

668
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: was just like a Peter Teal acolyte who Peter Tell

669
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: was like, well, I have so much power, I'm just

670
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: gonna run this guy who does everything I say, including

671
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: function as a human blood bag for me. And he

672
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: was just the most unlikable candidate that's ever been run.

673
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: And he lost a super winnable seat in Arizona. Like

674
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: that seems to be the one thing that everybody agrees

675
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: on is that this guy's a fucking, you know, political toxin.

676
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: And but I love, I love to see them not

677
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: learning from their mistakes, you know. I mean it's it's

678
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: like they're like, man, how did this happen? Get the

679
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: people responsible for this happening in here to figure out

680
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: what they did wrong? Like they that's whatever. Shout out

681
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: to y'all for being rigid. Like most like of party

682
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: leaders on in both parties were just like, no, we

683
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: know we're doing We're a d okay, please get out

684
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: of our way and right now as it stands, others

685
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: have been sniffing around. But like Lee Zelden, who ran

686
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: for governor in New York, he was like, maybe I'm, oh,

687
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: you know what, I might actually run to be the

688
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: chair of the r n C. But he I think

689
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: he got the message nobody wanted him, so he faded

690
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: to the background. Which makes sense because a hundred out

691
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: of the hundred sixty eight voting members that decide who

692
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: was going to run the d n C have already

693
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: said they want Romney's niece to continue doing a bad job,

694
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: So it looks like she is safe for now. She

695
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: used to be Ronna Romney McDaniel, and then she I

696
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: think she was like, oh, the nepotism stuff kind of

697
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: getting in the way. We should be Ronna McDaniel, Like

698
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Speaker 1: you want to be round Ronna Romney McDaniel on your

699
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: way to somewhere and then get that nepotism name out

700
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: of the way. But meanwhile on Fox, they are continuing

701
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: to lay the blame at the feet of of women

702
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: that won't get on board with chauvinist ideologies because Jesse

703
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: Waters he said he's offering an olive branch to women

704
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: to help move forward, because maybe that's that's what it was. Uh,

705
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: here's here's him with his take on what went absolutely wrong.

706
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: Don't worry. This is him trying to figure out what's

707
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: going on. He's about to ask a woman for his

708
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: hand so he can be hand in hand with a

709
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: woman as he exists, literal olive branch, and everyone's rolling

710
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: their eyes in the studio. My hand. Women need men

711
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: and men need women. We need each other. And if

712
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: you understand nature, you understand there is not a war

713
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: between the sexes. We need to make love, not war.

714
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: And you need to stop tropping your hair off and

715
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: calling us toxic. We are on a mission. Yes we peacock,

716
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: but we peacock for your attention. So fall in love

717
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: and let's all live happily ever after. Okay, so that's

718
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: kind of ship going on. First of all, for people

719
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: who have been't like a, aren't watching this, he makes

720
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Speaker 1: his coworker hold his hand well, instructing all women to

721
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: make love to men. Yeah, there was nothing. There was

722
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: nothing olive Branch about it, which was basically been like

723
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: quick cutting your hair and saying we're toxic. Like that

724
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: was really the distillation of what he said. And but

725
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: that's that's about the most critical thought. I think they're

726
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: willing to give their own platform. I hate to be

727
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: a Debbie Downer, but I was just discussing with some

728
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: some high school students. They already fucking know, they know

729
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: as young ladies that every eleven minutes in this country,

730
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: another woman is murdered by like their intimate partner. So

731
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: it's so it's so cool and great, you know, for

732
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: people just to be like, oh, yeah, we can just

733
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, join hands and live happily ever after without

734
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: actually you know, being aware of the conditions that like

735
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: we're really living under and then and then I think

736
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: what's crazy is that that statistic came out of a

737
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,959
Speaker 1: conversation about toxic masculinity, you know what I mean, Like

738
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: it's like these and this is a conversation being had

739
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: with like high school students, Like they're like the fact

740
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: that the Republican Party thinks that that there's this you know,

741
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: class of people who are just who just need to

742
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: be deprogrammed from actual reality, like get the hell out

743
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: of here, Like that's that's that's why you're fucking red

744
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: wave was non existent. Yeah, seriously, And I think it

745
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: just shows like they're they're just continued, like they just

746
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: don't understand, like they're cannot separate themselves from their policy

747
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: and understand that that's it's repulsive to a majority of

748
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: people at this point, Like what they stand for is

749
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: like literally repulsive to a voter. And yeah, I think

750
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: it's like with anything, right, there's always this thing of

751
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: like whenever a group is in power, they just like

752
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: to say, come on, get over it, man, shake my hand.

753
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: Can't we just get along now? And I don't want

754
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: to address the history or the actual context or the

755
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: structures that will continue the issue. I just want you

756
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: to say, you'll stop complaining about it, and that was

757
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: about his most that it's not about yeah, let me

758
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: address rape culture or you know, chauvinism in this country

759
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: and X, Y, and Z, because there was no reckoning

760
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: from it was so that was why I so like

761
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: such a clear, like chauvinistic thing where it's like I

762
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: will be fixed as a man. Y'all need to stop

763
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: cutting your hair and calling me toxic? Now can we

764
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: get along? Offer zero changes? On his part, he was

765
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: just like, hey, look we're we're peacocks here, but yeah,

766
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: you need us so motherfucker they don't. Yeah, And it

767
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: turns out that's it's not gonna work, like you're only

768
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: going to continue to look around like where the funk

769
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: are people going? Which I think shows again why you

770
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: have people like Nick Fuentez who see the writing on

771
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: the wall and they're like, there's no way you can

772
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: win with a policy like this unless it's just forcing

773
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: people to live under this kind of society. That's it.

774
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: Because the momentum is getting away from us at this point,

775
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: and now they're not playing politics, they're just basically saying,

776
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: how can we corner motherfucker's with our ideology? That's it.

777
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: They're not interested in winning anything. It's just now it's

778
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: a game of how can we set up legal legislative

779
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: structures that will just enshrine all of this ship into

780
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: law or make it the norm. So then we win

781
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: that game now and y'all can just suffer under that. Yeah.

782
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: Well it's a good thing that they only have a

783
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: six three majority on the Supreme Court. So yeah, we'll

784
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: get to that. All right, let's take a quick break

785
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: and let's let's talk about something. Listen, let's talk water

786
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: and catch up. We'll come back and talk water and

787
00:45:47,160 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: catch up. Back and we're back. And so there's an

788
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 1: article in The take Out that The Takeout is a

789
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: fast food blog that is the probably most cited source

790
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: on our just most cited source on on air show.

791
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: But they're making the claim that Hunts is actually a superior,

792
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: more adult catchup because it's not as sweet as Yeah,

793
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: so they're basically saying that as we age, we lose

794
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: our taste for sweetness. And so if if you were

795
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: like a completely objective adult doing a taste test, you

796
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: would actually prefer Hunts. But because of brand loyalty, because

797
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: the time when we're actually eating our most ketchup is

798
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: in childhood. That's when Hinz kind of wins you over.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, I'm just curious to hear you

800
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: guys experiences with ketchup. I'm not I look, I will

801
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: say I'm loyal. I'm definitely a loyal person. So I

802
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: definitely the brand loyalty thing, Like without even considering it.

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00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, get that Hunt's nonsense away from me. But

804
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: I like to think I can be objective. So I

805
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: do have some Hunts ketch up in front of me

806
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: that I will test in a second. But that that's

807
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: where I'm at. What about you? What's your what's your ketchup?

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00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: Where allegiance is that? Where are you at? You know?

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00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: It's funny is when I was like in middle school,

810
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: whenever I would complain to my dad that I was hungry,

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Speaker 1: and usually it was my brothers and sisters, all of

812
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: us complaining, he would be like, you better drink a

813
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: tall glass of water and you know, eat some packs

814
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: of ketchup. And those packs were always hying. So I mean,

815
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Speaker 1: I can't even remember a pack of huntspect. I feel

816
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: like Hinds had the market cornered for a long time.

817
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: And now you're starting to see more like I think

818
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: because the Hines is associated with just you know, mass market,

819
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people testing the waters with their

820
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: like Whole Foods three sixty five brand catch up and

821
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: like organic catchup and ship like that. I've I've not

822
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: found any of those two be as good and it

823
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: is a source of some discussion in our household because

824
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, we should just give the kids hinds, right,

825
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: but like as opposed to the one with no preservatives

826
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: that tastes bad. That's that's man. That's the stuff that

827
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: makes a child be small because of all the preservatives

828
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: that as a kid. That's my And I'm like, man,

829
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: look at all those kids. W couldn't have McDonald's with

830
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: your short asses. Not joking, but hunts, I'm just gonna

831
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: have a packet right here. I was just just gonna taste

832
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: a little. You're gonna just take a take a packet

833
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: to the dome the way ketchup wasn't tended to because

834
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: with a tall glass of water. You know, I'm telling

835
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Speaker 1: you he knew something that was Okay, hunch, catch up,

836
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: Let's catch up to the dome. We should say that

837
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: miles before he dug into this packet of Hunts. He

838
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: also had another packet that was puffed up. Yeah, there's

839
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: a lot of gas building up. You know, I'm not

840
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: mad at Hunts. Actually, Okay, but now, okay, I gotta

841
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: I got I got some Hinns too. So the other

842
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: thing about taste tests is that they don't wait for

843
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: good podcast segments. He shouldn't do them on podcast. Hear

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Speaker 1: me rifle through my loose back of continents, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's another puffy packet. Well, I already know how kinds

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Speaker 1: tastes because last night I ate the standard my favorite

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Speaker 1: food in America, which is grocery store potato wedges, and

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Speaker 1: I had that with ketchup. I can't say instantly, I

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Speaker 1: taste high Hunts and I'm like, it's not sweet sweet,

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if I would necessarily appreciate that more.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, I get what you're saying, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: it I'm not like, oh my god, what have I

853
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Speaker 1: been doing? Yeah, I know it's you gotta be careful

854
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Speaker 1: with that ketchup taste and you know, removing too much

855
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Speaker 1: of the sweetness, because it's like you'll just be left

856
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Speaker 1: with this like kind of rust. Taste this like copper tinny, Like, yeah,

857
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: ketchup can get like that too, or like other ketchup

858
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Speaker 1: when it's not sweeter, like what, it's got a weird

859
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: not ketchup feeling to me. Yeah, And I don't know,

860
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Speaker 1: maybe Hines just shifted the goalpost so much that in

861
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Speaker 1: our minds, like it has redefined even what the flavor

862
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Speaker 1: of ketchup is to someone, because I think that's the

863
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Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing. It's not that I'm like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, Dunts tastes like ship, but I'm more like, yeah,

865
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Speaker 1: it's less sweet. But also in my mind, that's not

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Speaker 1: what catchup is. What Hines has done is pretty remarkable

867
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Speaker 1: because like when you look at look at the mustard space,

868
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Speaker 1: there's you know, one thousand different types of mustard, Like

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Speaker 1: do you kind of like have to have all the

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Speaker 1: different types of mustard? Like you you don't because each

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Speaker 1: one is different, and like to just completely corner a

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Speaker 1: product and be like, yeah, that's really the only one

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Speaker 1: that people recognize like kind of across the board as

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00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: the as the best in brand. Yeah, we're also just

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Speaker 1: doing some research because I had a possibly false memory

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Speaker 1: that McDonald's had Hines catch up recently. Could be that

877
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: I was happy meals, yeah, and those happy meals, but

878
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 1: it was they stopped serving Hans and now serve McDonald's

879
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: fancy ketchup, which I didn't notice. So I didn't know

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Speaker 1: that they stopped because the new CEO of Hinz like

881
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: left his position as the worldwide CEO of Burger King

882
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: to take over Hines and McDonald's. Like, now we're not

883
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 1: working with them anymore. Like, oh, you went from Burger

884
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 1: King to Hines. Guess who doesn't want Hines anymore us?

885
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: Which is so wild. They said it was a quote.

886
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 1: The primary reason for ending the partnership was a quote

887
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: recent management change at all. Right, So yeah, so nothing,

888
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: nothing definitive, but may maybe give Hunts a second look.

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Speaker 1: If you if you're like me and have just been,

890
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Speaker 1: you know, dismissing Hunts out of hand, I'll say this.

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Speaker 1: If you're if you need to be worried about your

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Speaker 1: sugar intake, sure, I get you know, that's a definitely

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Speaker 1: a healthier option. But for me, I don't think it's that,

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Speaker 1: Like my palate is more mature as I age. It's

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Speaker 1: just that well, I think it's it's just more it's

896
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Speaker 1: like just more cynical than that. Just hinz has completely

897
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Speaker 1: shifted the goalposts and people's like mouths for like what

898
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Speaker 1: catchup is and it's just sorry they you know, that's

899
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: it is what it is now. Yeah. Also, Hines has

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Speaker 1: an organic brand. I mean it hasn't organic. Yeah, yeah

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00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: it does. It hasn't organic and it has yeah, and

902
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: it has one without sugar, you know. So yeah, no

903
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: brand loyalty. Yeah, keep enjoying. Also, they're all probably bad

904
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: for you. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure sweetened with

905
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: high fruit those oh yeah, oh yeah, most definitely. Yeah. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: such a pleasure having you on the daily geist. Really

907
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 1: enjoy talking to you. Where can people find you? Follow

908
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,479
Speaker 1: you all that good stuff? You could find me at

909
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: survivors Hill dot com and they're all my social media

910
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: is linked. Yeah. Yeah, and tell us a little bit

911
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: about your podcast too. Yeah. So my podcast is really

912
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: a compilation of the stories and practices and tools and

913
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: resources that come from my work, my life's work, because

914
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Speaker 1: you know, it's like fifteen years in doing work to

915
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Speaker 1: support survivors of crime, but also doing adjacent work in advocacy,

916
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Speaker 1: in organizing at the grassroots level. So yeah, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get to talk with a lot of people who

918
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Speaker 1: are really close to me, and then I get to

919
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Speaker 1: talk with a lot of people who have been in

920
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Speaker 1: the field themselves, just you know, looking to interrupt violence

921
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Speaker 1: and also like just be solutions oriented, you know, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what's I mean? What? What? What's like the biggest thing

923
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Speaker 1: we're missing from our conversations because I think most of

924
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Speaker 1: the way we usually consume stories about crime is like

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Speaker 1: and then someone is arrested, case and that's done. Yeah,

926
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: there's no you talk about you talk about true crime

927
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,439
Speaker 1: on your show too, being like a thing that people

928
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: are obsessed with. But maybe a lot of it is

929
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: because so many Americans are victims of crime or no

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00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: victims of crime, right absolutely. And I think that what

931
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: is missing from the conversation is that we don't focus

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Speaker 1: on like what happens to the survivors after the crime,

933
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Speaker 1: Like we we don't focus on the healing part of

934
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Speaker 1: what happens after crime. And you see, you've seen that

935
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: just now in the in that whole thing with Netflix

936
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Speaker 1: and the Domer situation, where like the victims and the

937
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: survivors of that we're not even like compensated or contacted

938
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Speaker 1: or you know, and and I think that not having

939
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: a conversation about what it takes to heal from all

940
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Speaker 1: of these tragedies that we've grown accustomed to is is

941
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Speaker 1: it's a part of the reason why we continue, you know,

942
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: just to see it all sensationalized. I think that we

943
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: need to have more conversations about what it will take

944
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 1: for us as a culture to really shift our imaginations

945
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: into and not just our imagination but our practices, which

946
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: is really important in our policies, you know, to supporting

947
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Speaker 1: people in taking more cont full of their healing journeys,

948
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, And I think, yeah, it's like a

949
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: huge philologist in general, like you say, culturally, especially in America,

950
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Speaker 1: like the idea no one wants to struggle publicly, no

951
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 1: one will acknowledge their struggling, And like the bigger part

952
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: of that is like healing is such a huge part

953
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: that's missing, because I think so much like the American

954
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: ethos is like strong, you get through it, don't worry

955
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: about it, you take yourself back up. But meanwhile, in

956
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: the background, whatever transgressions you've been through or experience, those

957
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: linger without actually being addressed and fester into other ideas

958
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: or other problems. Or continue similar cycles of violence or

959
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: lies or whatever. And yeah, like I think it really

960
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: is powerful to just to have a show that's about

961
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: saying like this is the importance of actually acknowledging our

962
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: humanity and how important the concept of healing is because

963
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: we don't we're not really we're not anchoring a lot

964
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: of those conversations. So I think it's really fantastic like

965
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: work that you're doing. And hope everybody who's listening to this,

966
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 1: we'll definitely check out the show as well. And damn thanks.

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Speaker 1: Is there a tweet or some of the work of

968
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: social media you've been enjoying? Oh, then it's you know,

969
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: there's a YouTube. There's like these shorts like another satisfying

970
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: racial moment. Hey, god, those ones to get me every day,

971
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: Like just random bits of life where you know, folks

972
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: are you know, just displaying their understanding of what it

973
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: is to be a person of color in this country. Yeah,

974
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: and they're really hilarious. Like when I saw yesterday, it's

975
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: like a lady was just mining her business, like doing

976
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Speaker 1: her job working, you know, making a sandwich, and some

977
00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: guy comes along is like do you serve crackers or

978
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: we serve everybody here. It's terrible, terrible, terrible, but you

979
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 1: know I've been amused. Yeah, Miles, where can people find you?

980
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: And what is the tweet you've been enjoying? Hey, if

981
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: they got as symbols, type in miles of gray after

982
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: chances are um there. Uh. You can also find me

983
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: and Jack on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack Got

984
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: the number one hundred percent top rated NBA podcast with

985
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Speaker 1: comedy in it, hosted by men named Miles or Jack

986
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Speaker 1: hailing from the San Fernando Valley area or Wheeling, West Virginia, Dayton, Ohio,

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00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: Massachusetts or other places. Uh. And also find me on

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Speaker 1: four twenty Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandro, where we talk

989
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: ninety day fiance. Some tweets that I like. First, one's

990
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: from Mike Drucker at Mike Drucker saying, I feel like

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Speaker 1: we're close to cracking the mystery of whether the man

992
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: who grew up wealthy from apartheid might be racist. Uh yeah,

993
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: I think I think we might be getting there. Uh.

994
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: Then another one at right or Toast tweeted a man

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00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: A man and his son are in a car accident.

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00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: The man is killed instantly, his son is rushed to

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00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: the hospital. The surgeon says, I can't operate on this patient.

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00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: He is my son. The car then crashes through the

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Speaker 1: wall of the operating room, killing everyone. How is this possible?

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00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: The answer tesla spin on that old riddle. That's why

1001
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: it's truly wild like that is that that was a

1002
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: riddle that people were like, I don't know, man, Like,

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Speaker 1: how is it? What do you mean? Yeah? Really, in

1004
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: some ways we've come along a long way. You know

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00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: what I was just thinking about that is kind of unrelated,

1006
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: but like kind of related. Is like that less than

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Speaker 1: a generation go, people were like, the way to a

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Speaker 1: man's heart is through his stomach. If you just if

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01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: you just make yummy food for them, they'll fall in

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01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: love with you. Is like such a wild, a wild

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01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: thing that I think, like even my dad's that was

1012
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: like like men perpetuating those through to the media, so helpless,

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01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: Just she give me food. Yeah, and hey, I'm gonna

1014
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: this character I'm writing dialogue for is my dream woman,

1015
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: and she's gonna tell other women that the way to

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Speaker 1: a man's heart is through feeding him a ton of

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Speaker 1: food that he likes. Yeah, and enter, let's see some

1018
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: tweets I've been enjoying hot Pink Furby tweeted, Twizzlers fulfill

1019
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: my primal urge to chew on electrical wires. Jeremy Parrish

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Speaker 1: probably tweeted out of nowhere, my nephew just asked, do

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Speaker 1: you think Pavlov thought about feeding his dog every time

1022
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Speaker 1: he heard a bell ring? And now I'm going to

1023
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: be haunted by this question. That might have been a

1024
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: conversation that happened after the walk at Thanksgiving, you know.

1025
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: And oh and then handle Lynn tweeted, brain cell rotted.

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Speaker 1: I can't read quote it's giving Tuesday the normal way,

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Speaker 1: which when I saw that trending on Twitter, I was like,

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01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: m it's giving Tuesday. Like that's it's serving Tuesday. It's

1029
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: giving real Tuesday vibes instead of got intended. So anyways,

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Speaker 1: shout out to handle It. You can find me on

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01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on

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01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: Twitter at Daily Zeke guyst. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist

1033
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website,

1034
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: Daily zigeist dot com, where we post our episodes and

1035
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: our footnotes where we link off to the information that

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Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode. As well as a

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Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song

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Speaker 1: do you think people might enjoy? Oh? Man, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was just some more drumming bass I was listening

1040
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: to the other day. It was getting me so motivated.

1041
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Speaker 1: This one is called Out of My Head featuring Cherry

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Speaker 1: Aid C H E R R Y A d E.

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Speaker 1: And it's by the Groom Ladd maybe DJ. But man,

1044
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: this was just some you know, exercise drumming bass music

1045
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: where if you want to power walker some ship to this,

1046
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: throw this onto your headphones and get your heart right up.

1047
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: And when you're picturing power walking, are you picturing the

1048
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: loose hoop, the loose hip wiggle, the like the real

1049
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: speed walkers do ye oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, OK.

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Speaker 1: Because that's like some music that makes me do that.

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Speaker 1: The only way you could do it almost looks like

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Speaker 1: you like doing it, like a like a salt se

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Speaker 1: or something like if you just saw the shoulders, you'd

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Speaker 1: be like, oh if is that the south side. I'm

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Speaker 1: listening to drumming bass and I'm getting my my stepson.

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Speaker 1: That's my favorite, the coolest looking sport. If anybody hasn't

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Speaker 1: seen speed walkers in action, love the honey in their hips.

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Speaker 1: I remember the first time I saw it on TV.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a fucking joke. I think it was.

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Speaker 1: And I remember my mom. I used to do that

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Speaker 1: ship all the time. Pissed my mom. Stop sucking around

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, what are you doing? I would be like,

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Speaker 1: how fast do you think I could go? How fast

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Speaker 1: think I could go? Before I shout out of speed walking?

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, go listen to that song and do

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Speaker 1: a little speed walking around your neighborhood. Get the hips waggling.

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