WEBVTT - I’m Starting a Wrestling Company

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<v Speaker 1>M H. Welcome back everyone to Wrestling with Freddy. And

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<v Speaker 1>today's episode isn't even it's not the past, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>even the current product. It's the future. I did an

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<v Speaker 1>interview on the Aerial Helwani Show where I had mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>one of my dreams, which is now a plan, was

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<v Speaker 1>to start my own small, little indie wrestling federation, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go into what my goals with that are. But

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of wrestling fans saw it. Some of you

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was full of crap. Some of you really

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<v Speaker 1>believed in the idea. But we got so much feedback

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<v Speaker 1>that we're gonna deep dive into the plan and the

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<v Speaker 1>philosophy behind it, and I'm gonna share way more with

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<v Speaker 1>you that I'm probably even comfortable sharing, minus the financials,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna get it started right now. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>another episode of Wrestling with Freddie. Now stuffing up to

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<v Speaker 1>the mic. The host of Wrestling with Freddie Freddie Prince June. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you guys. So a few months ago I

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<v Speaker 1>was on the m M A Hour with Ariel Helwani,

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<v Speaker 1>who I like very much. I think he sells the

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<v Speaker 1>sport of mixed martial arts very well and he's randomly

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<v Speaker 1>a huge wrestling fan and if you go back a

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<v Speaker 1>few episodes, he was a guest on here. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>really good part of our family over here. And he

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<v Speaker 1>talked about being at the actual Montreal screw Job with

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<v Speaker 1>Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels. Because he is a France Canadian.

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<v Speaker 1>We were having a conversation and I had never really

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<v Speaker 1>spoken publicly about it before, but it had been a

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<v Speaker 1>dream of mine for a long time. And and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you kind of how that dream came to

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<v Speaker 1>pass right now, because you can watch all the arial

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on his channel. Nobody really knows this, but I

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<v Speaker 1>almost became a showrunner for another wrestling federation whose name

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<v Speaker 1>I will not say. A friend of mine who financed

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<v Speaker 1>the company asked me to come help them try and

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<v Speaker 1>get a TV deal. So I was happy to help.

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<v Speaker 1>I love wrestling. I love the person who had this

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<v Speaker 1>promoters back and was financing the company. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of I have a lot of respect for this person,

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<v Speaker 1>and so when they asked me for something, which is

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<v Speaker 1>very rare, it's an easy yes for me. There's someone

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<v Speaker 1>I liked doing favors for, and I don't feel they

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<v Speaker 1>asked enough. So I came in, no contract, no money,

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<v Speaker 1>no anything, and saw their product, saw the good stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>saw what I thought I could improve, and had another

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with the finance. Here I met the promoter. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, it was an old school promoter. The promoter

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<v Speaker 1>was very professional and polite to me, look me in

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<v Speaker 1>the eye when we shook hands, that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and then started selling me on on their their brand.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was an oversell too to my eyeball anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was no need to oversell it. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>that people should always be very straightforward when dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>with other professionals in this in the same industry, that

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<v Speaker 1>being show business. Not that I'm a wrestling expert, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do you know what quality television and quality film is.

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<v Speaker 1>So I tried to relax him and put him in

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<v Speaker 1>ease and and well now you know it's a guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and and tell him that, uh that I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of the product and all this stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned where I thought I could help um who

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that I thought would come in and be

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<v Speaker 1>friendly to us and help improve you know, everything from

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<v Speaker 1>our on camera stuff to putting some credibility on commentating

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<v Speaker 1>to training, to to all kinds of things. Not that

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<v Speaker 1>I would train, but I knew, you know, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the best wrestling trainers in the business, because I treated

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<v Speaker 1>them with respect, the travels of the world that have

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<v Speaker 1>trained a lot of people. So and I wanted the

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<v Speaker 1>good people to work, So I didn't push on anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew I was there just for story stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>and so I started breaking it down. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>started being very honest about how Hollywood perceives the wrestling business.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not favorable, and it hasn't been ripple in

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<v Speaker 1>a very long time, or they would have pulled a

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<v Speaker 1>ton more professional wrestlers and lured them with with money

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<v Speaker 1>and Beverly Hills and and girls named Beverly and everything

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<v Speaker 1>and guy's name. Whatever you desire is here in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>They can steal your way. They've done it countless times.

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<v Speaker 1>John Cena used to talk smack about the Rock for

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<v Speaker 1>being a part timer, and then Hollywood said, oh, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>you talked crap about the biggest star in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>How would you like to be one as well? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>yes I would, And he pieced out. So it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a foul temptress. But it can be. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful temptress at the same time if you already

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<v Speaker 1>know who you are. So we talked about what I

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<v Speaker 1>thought needed to be done for TV based on conversations

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<v Speaker 1>that I've already had with executives, and I said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the connections that I had in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineties when I was hot shit, but but the relationships

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<v Speaker 1>that I that I had, I'm there's only one producer

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<v Speaker 1>I've worked with that I really wouldn't work with again,

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<v Speaker 1>I have solid relationships. I'm always pro alway is on time,

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<v Speaker 1>always knew my ship, never was a drug addict, so

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't cause any problems. There was no reason for

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<v Speaker 1>people not to dig me. So the people who had

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<v Speaker 1>advanced up and we're in positions of authority now to

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<v Speaker 1>say yes, some of them were my friends or at

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<v Speaker 1>least acquaintances. So I said, here's the three places that

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<v Speaker 1>I could take us to, and he said, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a friend who maybe getting a promotion at this other

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<v Speaker 1>place as well. I said, cool, if it happens, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's go there too. So we set up the three

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<v Speaker 1>meetings and all three and I want to write a

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<v Speaker 1>pilot for them as I say, look, you have You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to have something. They're gonna want to see

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<v Speaker 1>something because they don't know wrestling. Now, well we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't really write it like that. We don't. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't write the w Wilay I said, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to write at the w W E way. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to show them a format so they can understand

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<v Speaker 1>how long the show is, how long the matches are,

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<v Speaker 1>what the back states. He goes, well, you can just

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<v Speaker 1>pitch it. You're a great picture. And I think he

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<v Speaker 1>did like me for that, but he really just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>my name to help sell his show, which we found

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<v Speaker 1>out down the room. So we go into the first

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<v Speaker 1>meeting and it was I believe the first one was

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<v Speaker 1>at the c W. And the gentleman that I knew

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<v Speaker 1>there was Mark Petowitz. See I'm comfortable saying. And Mark

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the original execs on Buffy the Vampire

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<v Speaker 1>Slayer like way back in the day, and he runs

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<v Speaker 1>the CW and his business model is what keeps the

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<v Speaker 1>CW afloat. It's how they can afford to make all

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<v Speaker 1>their DC shows, whether you think they're good or not.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a very He came from their business affairs department.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was a lawyer negotiating contracts, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>usually a guy that I like. But he knows that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very straight up about it. And they have a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy contract structure there as well. But those actors are

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<v Speaker 1>still making way more than wrestlers, so as far as

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<v Speaker 1>budget and what these these wrestlers would be paid, because

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't have be a license deal like US, a

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<v Speaker 1>licensed Monday Night Raw. They don't own Monday Night Raw,

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<v Speaker 1>so this would still be on the cheap for them,

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<v Speaker 1>an affordable show. They said, we don't want to script,

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<v Speaker 1>so we go in, we pitch it, and the promoter

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<v Speaker 1>takes over the pitch. I'm about maybe four minutes in

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<v Speaker 1>and he and he and he takes over the pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I stopped talking. It doesn't work if we're

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<v Speaker 1>both talking at the same time. And he goes and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, and it's about fifteen minutes in and I see,

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<v Speaker 1>I see Mark shaking. Is not shaking his head, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's an internal head shake. I've normally had twenty plus years.

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<v Speaker 1>And I see the other exacts, and I know when

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<v Speaker 1>they're tuning out on a pitch because I've had plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of bad ones myself, and so he finally finishes up.

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<v Speaker 1>And the last thing you wanna have happened at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the pitch is say well, thank you, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be in touch. That means that sucks and we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want it. It doesn't mean your idea sucks. It just

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<v Speaker 1>means they think it sucks. If they ask questions, there's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously interest. So I already know where this is going.

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<v Speaker 1>And the meeting stops, and right away Mark and this

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<v Speaker 1>other guy I don't remember his name in stereo, they say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much, we'll be in touch. And I

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<v Speaker 1>shake my head and we're walking out and Mark puts

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<v Speaker 1>a hand on my shoulder and he says, hey, come

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<v Speaker 1>back in here after you say goodbye if you can.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, yeah, okay, So I go and I talked

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<v Speaker 1>to the sales group right and uh, I say, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the next time, and and he's even apologizing, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of I barreled on there and you were

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<v Speaker 1>doing great. He did not care if I was doing great.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he just was looking for a door to

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<v Speaker 1>get opened so he could try to sell a show. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>they leave, I go back in and Mark goes, what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell was that? He actually didn't cuss. He rarely cusses.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, what was that, Freddy? I say, I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't the meeting that I thought it was gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I have a different pitch if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear what I think wrestling could be. Although I

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<v Speaker 1>know you guys aren't in the market for this. He goes, well, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want to buy a wrestling show, but let

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<v Speaker 1>me let me see what you got. Say all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So we go back and the financier, the one who

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<v Speaker 1>called me, who me for help. I said, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. So and so is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do that again. Uh, please don't leave, Please come to

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<v Speaker 1>the next pitch. I say, I'm not going anywhere. Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 1>I made a commitment work good. So I have a

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<v Speaker 1>good conversation or what I think was a good conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with the promoter and uh, I say, look, I'm not trying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very directed him. I say, I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>steal your your show. I don't have a contract. I

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<v Speaker 1>get no money if we sell this, none, not a

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<v Speaker 1>not a single dollar. I just want to put my

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<v Speaker 1>friend in a position for this type of wrestling to

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<v Speaker 1>succeed because the ku genera can be because I believe

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<v Speaker 1>in this type of wrestling, so stupid and uh he says, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know or all on the same. So the next

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<v Speaker 1>place won't take a pitch without a script, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what I thought. So I write one up and I

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<v Speaker 1>try to give even the wrestlers that I can't fit

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<v Speaker 1>into the show wrestling a moment backstage, a little time

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<v Speaker 1>to shine. Right without telling me before we go into

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<v Speaker 1>the pitch, dude rewrites everything that I did to make

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<v Speaker 1>it fit more what he wants. Now you can look

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<v Speaker 1>at this two ways. This is his baby. It's his baby,

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<v Speaker 1>and here comes this jerk with his ideas and what

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<v Speaker 1>he feels are major changes. Even though I stayed true

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<v Speaker 1>to every single character. I spoke with every wrestler before

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote for them, and noticed I didn't say before

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<v Speaker 1>I made changes because I made zero. I worked with

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<v Speaker 1>what I was given because I didn't know that I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't being paid. It was a favor. So you show

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<v Speaker 1>me what you think your best self is, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna work with. I'm not going to change

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<v Speaker 1>the thing and I didn't, so the whole script gets rewritten.

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<v Speaker 1>We go and we have the pitch and he lets

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<v Speaker 1>me pitch, which was really cool and it's a great pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>We killed it. They seem actually into it, which I

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<v Speaker 1>was surprised by. And this woman says, you know, Freddie

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<v Speaker 1>called me afterwards. So I call her and she says, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're actually excited about this. I'm excited to read your

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<v Speaker 1>your pilot. I said, yeah, quit. I go. Look, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a temporary thing, just so you can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>see what the flavors are and how the show goorks

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<v Speaker 1>goes okay. So I get a call that night from her,

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<v Speaker 1>which is weird. It would always be an email, and

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<v Speaker 1>it would never be that night unless it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, we love this and we have to

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<v Speaker 1>buy it, in which case it would be a phone

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<v Speaker 1>call because they don't want to avoid my lawyer cost

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<v Speaker 1>the more money. So I say hello, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>who it is, and she goes, Freddy, did you write this?

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<v Speaker 1>I said yeah. She goes, and we have a good

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<v Speaker 1>enough relationship. She goes, I really didn't respond to this

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<v Speaker 1>at all, and I was like, really, what about this? This?

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<v Speaker 1>So and so monologue. I thought that was a promo

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<v Speaker 1>we call it, but monologue they called. I go. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that would be right up your alley because there's

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<v Speaker 1>no there's no monologue at all. I did say monologue.

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<v Speaker 1>Be goes, there's no monologues at all, Like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean? Send send me the script because now I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I already know what's happened, and everything has changed every

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<v Speaker 1>single page. And I called my friend back. I got yed.

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<v Speaker 1>This old man is trying to sabotage me. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why. I don't have a contract with him. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't what I don't. I was doing a favor, but

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<v Speaker 1>clearly he does not want my help. So I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>step back. I go, if you want to read my pilot,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll send it to you. She goes, don't even send

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<v Speaker 1>it to me. I'm not buying this show, said, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's the third meeting that's coming up, and I

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<v Speaker 1>text dude to UH to talk about the pitch, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hear back. And then Uh. I texted him again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about a week out. I don't hear back. Third

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<v Speaker 1>fourth fit text nothing. I text the boss the finance

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<v Speaker 1>here and I say, hey, what's going on. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>texted homeboy a few times. I haven't heard anything back

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<v Speaker 1>our meetings in like two days or this was a

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<v Speaker 1>text that I wrote. And I get a phone call

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<v Speaker 1>back and she says, uh, Freddy, I'm really sorry. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he told me he was gonna he was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you, but he doesn't. He doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>work with you, and he's really uncomfortable, and so we're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna walk away. And I said, let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you something. Did his friend get the promotion that he

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about? And it's dead client on her end

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<v Speaker 1>of the phone, and I literally almost said the name.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally go, this is insane. I said, I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing this for free, and now that he doesn't need

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<v Speaker 1>me to get a meeting at a TV network because

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<v Speaker 1>his friends there, he's just kicking me out. And she goes,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I'm so sorry. Da da da dada.

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<v Speaker 1>I go, it's all right. I go, I'm not mad

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<v Speaker 1>at you. I go, you know, it wasn't It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a job anyway. Best of luck, good luck. And they

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<v Speaker 1>actually got a TV deal without any of my assistants whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't need it. I didn't have anger when it

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<v Speaker 1>was over because it was just more weird and the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guy he was was so old school and

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<v Speaker 1>and transparent that you know, I wasn't trying to smash

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<v Speaker 1>on the guy before or after the fact, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a different were from different generations, and neither one

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<v Speaker 1>of us is going to change. So instead of getting angry,

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<v Speaker 1>all that energy started, Like I don't know, man, It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know when you're in a dream and you

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<v Speaker 1>know you're about to wake up and reality starts to

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<v Speaker 1>slip into the context of the dream, so all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, whatever you were dreaming feels much more attainable.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense to anyone out there at all?

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<v Speaker 1>It's happened to me a million times in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like it's one of the main reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why I've never not accomplished a goal that I set

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<v Speaker 1>my mind to. Every everything I wanted to do in Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 1>I did everything I wanted to do. In wrestling, I did.

0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even done with jiu jitsu, but every goal

0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I said in jiu jitsu, I've accomplished so far and

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<v Speaker 1>that journey will never in thank God. So I started

0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:47.040
<v Speaker 1>dreaming about wrestling. I started dreaming about men's wrestling, women's

0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:53.400
<v Speaker 1>wrestling bodies smashing together, or as Biggie would say, medi men,

0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:58.080
<v Speaker 1>media manly men slapping meet against one another. That's a

0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Biggie would say. Shout out to Biggie, I'd love you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I start having this dream, and I remember my godfather,

0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Bob Wall Rest in peace. He said, dreams are what

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<v Speaker 1>happens when other people are making plans, and that philosophy

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the main reasons. Now it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>many reasons that I've been able to find success. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't spend too much time dreaming. The moment I have

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<v Speaker 1>the dream and I know it's something I want, I

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<v Speaker 1>start planning. So the first thing I did was call

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<v Speaker 1>my accountant and I said, Hey, I'm gonna try to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how much money I need to uh to

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<v Speaker 1>start a wrestling promotion, and I'm gonna hit you back.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, you better go get a job because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna let you spend any of the money

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<v Speaker 1>that you saved up over the years for wrestling promotion.

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<v Speaker 1>And I respect my accountant. I called my manager, I

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<v Speaker 1>called my agent. I said, yo, man, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to work, and they said, great, Why And

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<v Speaker 1>I told my manager the reason why you started laughing

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<v Speaker 1>at me. You said, you're absolutely insane. I said, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>man as, but I'll have fun doing it. I only

0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.080
<v Speaker 1>want to work with, you know, good people. We don't

0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.600
<v Speaker 1>have to be, you know, desperate for stuff. But let

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<v Speaker 1>people know that I'm that I'm hungry. And I had

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<v Speaker 1>never worked for Netflix before. I didn't really know anyone

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<v Speaker 1>over there. So I had like a video general meeting

0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.600
<v Speaker 1>with them and it went well, and they offered me

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<v Speaker 1>this romantic comedy. Of course, it's it's always a romantic

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<v Speaker 1>comedy if it's for me, if it's if I audition

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<v Speaker 1>for your movie it's an action movie, or like I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a tough guy or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's Sweetie sweet Cakes, then they're like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>give that crap to Freddie. So I read this script

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<v Speaker 1>and it's charming as all hell. It's a Latino family,

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<v Speaker 1>and you gotta remember that's always been something I've been

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<v Speaker 1>insecure about because my father was half so I'm only

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter, right, So I was never really fully except

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<v Speaker 1>did I felt by a lot of the Latino community.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've touched on this before. It used to

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<v Speaker 1>be called the n c l A or the National

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<v Speaker 1>Council for Larrassa, and now it's something different. But screw

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<v Speaker 1>those guys straight up. I told them I didn't speak

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<v Speaker 1>Spanish on purpose, just to hear what they would say

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<v Speaker 1>about me and my father, and they said it all baby.

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<v Speaker 1>So anytime I get an opportunity like that, and it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't often, at least a lot of times, I'll change

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<v Speaker 1>the name after the fact, Like on his name was

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<v Speaker 1>not Cole Ortiz. Coal is not a Latino name. His

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<v Speaker 1>name was like Cole McGuire and they're like, oh, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we hired Freddie and this will look like we're a

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<v Speaker 1>diverse show. Ha ha. It's Ortiz And that's what Hollywood does.

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<v Speaker 1>That's diversity for them. Everyone's white until you hire someone

0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:54.080
<v Speaker 1>that's not and then you change the name. So anyway, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I take this this joy. I meet with the director,

0:17:56.560 --> 0:18:00.040
<v Speaker 1>female director who I just Her name is Gabriella, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just fell in love with her. Man. She gave

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<v Speaker 1>me some of the Granted I hadn't worked in forever,

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<v Speaker 1>so notes weren't fresh in my head, but some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things she said to me just unlocked a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of ship. I got to work with this great actress,

0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Amy Garcia. You guys know her from that show Lucifer.

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<v Speaker 1>She plays the nerd. She basically plays Shakira in this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like sexy and the opposite of her character

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<v Speaker 1>on Lucifer. She's just a stone assassin and she's partners

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<v Speaker 1>with a j who we've had on this show. They're

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<v Speaker 1>too crazy Puerto Rican girls and their writing partners, and

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<v Speaker 1>I swear in ten years they're going to be running

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<v Speaker 1>the business. I'm doing this movie and it's making me

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<v Speaker 1>fall in love with acting again. And as hungry as

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting to act again, it never outweighed the

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<v Speaker 1>desire to start the promotion. So long winded story. Notice

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say long story short, because that was not short.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the plan. I was talking with Sam Roberts, who

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<v Speaker 1>has a lovely podcast as well, the Sam Roberts Show

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<v Speaker 1>last year Professional in the Damn Business, and he mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>g c W. He goes, you have to watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>They tell a story every single show and it's great.

0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:25.879
<v Speaker 1>He goes, they're gonna ask some stuff that that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't vibe with, and they're gonna have some stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>you love, I know it go okay. So I watch

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<v Speaker 1>a g c W show and sure enough I see

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<v Speaker 1>a death match, and I'm freaking like, it's just too much.

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<v Speaker 1>It was too much blood for me, right, too much,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's room for blood and wrestling. I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a big, big part. And it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>every match in g c W, which was smart, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was not. I was not prepared. I watched the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the show and I thought they did a

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<v Speaker 1>great job. And I started watching other shows, older shows,

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<v Speaker 1>old Ring of Honor. A started listening to Jim Cornett

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<v Speaker 1>and his philosophies on wrestling, started listening to other promoters

0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.440
<v Speaker 1>and people in the business and their philosophies on wrestling.

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<v Speaker 1>I started watching what other wrestlers were trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I started asking everyone I knew in the business questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I started looking at arenas locally here and and

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<v Speaker 1>what it would cost a rhom. And then as I

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<v Speaker 1>saw what my opportunities would be in this business, as

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<v Speaker 1>there would be more of them after I did the

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix one, I started saying, well, I can accelerate the plan,

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<v Speaker 1>or I could keep the plan as it is, do

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<v Speaker 1>a couple more of these and own the space, which

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<v Speaker 1>I believe right now is the plan that I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to execute. I've already have a commercial realtor that I

0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:58.159
<v Speaker 1>know and love. She's already looking at properties for me.

0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:01.240
<v Speaker 1>I would love to have a all time home for this.

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<v Speaker 1>The plan was originally a two year plan. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>should have the money for a three year plan, meaning

0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:10.399
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't have to make money for three years before

0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yo, man, i gotta go do another day movie.

0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:16.600
<v Speaker 1>You have to be in Scooby, almost said Mother Treuk,

0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and have to be in Scooby Part seven or some

0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:23.879
<v Speaker 1>crap like that to keep inflouid. So so I started

0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:28.919
<v Speaker 1>looking for properties, and then social media did what social

0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.800
<v Speaker 1>media does, which is like feeding frenzy. Right, It's like

0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:34.960
<v Speaker 1>baiting the water. And there's a lot of of wrestling

0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:38.080
<v Speaker 1>instagram pages and websites out there that do dirt sheets

0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:41.080
<v Speaker 1>and wrestling news and things like that, and they need content,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they picked up on this and put it

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<v Speaker 1>out and then all of a sudden, all these like

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:48.720
<v Speaker 1>indie wrestlers and indie refs and indie musicians who have

0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.840
<v Speaker 1>done wrestling stuff all started reaching out. And before I

0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:56.040
<v Speaker 1>get into this, let me say something. Whether you were

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<v Speaker 1>being real with me or whether you were trying to

0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:03.800
<v Speaker 1>troll and crap upon me, thank you. Some of you

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<v Speaker 1>wrote some stuff that was like you took the time

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<v Speaker 1>to not only say, hey, man, I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>come and be a part, but here's some wrestlers that

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<v Speaker 1>I respect and I think you would too. And for

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<v Speaker 1>you to take the time to do that, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just one cat that did that. That's the most

0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:25.560
<v Speaker 1>beautiful part of the wrestling community to me. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what acting used to be. I think I may

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<v Speaker 1>have told this story, but I did a movie with

0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Peter side Quest. I did a movie with Peter Falk,

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<v Speaker 1>who was amazing. People know him as Columbo, but this

0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:38.600
<v Speaker 1>guy was doing Cassavetti's movies in the seventies. Man is

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<v Speaker 1>just a gangster actor. And he was talking to me

0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 1>one time on on the ride to work. We would

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<v Speaker 1>take the same van to work every day as in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City. We were both staying at the Essex

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<v Speaker 1>House hotel, and he would make me buy him his

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<v Speaker 1>true one hundred cigarettes at like two o'clock in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and the guy would just light one off the other

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<v Speaker 1>as it was going out, and he would run scenes

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<v Speaker 1>with me over and over. I was a naive, inexperienced actor,

0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:06.119
<v Speaker 1>and he was investing so much time in me, so

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I'd buy the this cat's cigarettes how a light in

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<v Speaker 1>court for the guy. He was given me film school

0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:15.119
<v Speaker 1>one oh one in three months, and I was getting

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:18.000
<v Speaker 1>four years of an education, right. But he used to

0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:20.480
<v Speaker 1>tell me about how it used to be. How freddy

0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:23.879
<v Speaker 1>are He said, Uh, do you and your acting class,

0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, you get together? You do this? Do you

0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:28.359
<v Speaker 1>do that? It was always like a family for me

0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:31.720
<v Speaker 1>and and Nick and John. He's talking about these legends

0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and I had to look him in the face and

0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:36.360
<v Speaker 1>just be like, nah, man, it's it's not like that.

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:40.399
<v Speaker 1>It's cutthroat and everybody's ready to kill each other for

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a job. And he looked so disappointed. I never saw

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.600
<v Speaker 1>him long for the past. He was a life through

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:53.919
<v Speaker 1>the windshield guy, at least that's what he tried to

0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:58.479
<v Speaker 1>impart on me. Always look forward, Freddie, always look forward.

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:03.159
<v Speaker 1>And so when I see that in the wrestling world,

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and I've met so many cool cats, man, so many

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:10.440
<v Speaker 1>of you are awesome. And for the ones that talk

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 1>trash for real, thank you like that motivates me way

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.439
<v Speaker 1>more than people say. And you can do it like

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<v Speaker 1>I would have much rather say some have someone say

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 1>you suck. That will never happen that way. When it does,

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you just have to sit in that like it's there

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:27.680
<v Speaker 1>every week on TV, and you have to know that

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:31.359
<v Speaker 1>everything you said was dead wrong. That to me has

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>always been way more fun for both parties, I think,

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 1>because then at least you're getting to watch more wrestling.

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 1>So thank you that said, I'm not hiring anyone yet.

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not hiring anyone yet. So if your friends ask

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you if this story is true, you tell him yes,

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:49.439
<v Speaker 1>and then you send them the link to this episode

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 1>so that you don't have to have the thirty minute

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty minute explanation as to win. So plan on having

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:58.920
<v Speaker 1>this thing up and running in eighteen months. That's my plan.

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.400
<v Speaker 1>There's a way for me to get it done sooner,

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 1>but it requires me going to Australia for three months

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and leaving my family. So I'm not a big fan

0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 1>of of of doing that, um, regardless of of how

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>kind and respectful the studio is, unless I was in

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 1>a position where I had to. I love being a

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>dad it's the reason I walked away from the business

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 1>in the first place. However, there are moments where I'm like,

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 1>you know what they could come for the summer. You know,

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:29.440
<v Speaker 1>we could get it done and then I can get

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 1>these cats in the ring. So my goal. I don't

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>know how long I want the show to be yet.

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:40.399
<v Speaker 1>I think I want a two hour show at least

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 1>in the beginning. I doubt I'll have a TV contract

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 1>right away. It's very difficult to maintain ownership and get

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:55.359
<v Speaker 1>a TV deal in the beginning like that, if you're established,

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 1>they can come in and license you or by a

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:01.239
<v Speaker 1>portion of you, but you'll still be in control. So

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:05.120
<v Speaker 1>if I started off as live shows and I film it.

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 1>By the way, if you want to know if I'm serious,

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I already purchased a used like kit that was an

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 1>arena kit used even used these mugs is expensive, but

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.919
<v Speaker 1>I want this to look legit. So it's literally sitting

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 1>in my storage unit because my man was like, Yo,

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 1>this dude selling it at a really good price if

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you want to get in on this. So I did.

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I think I want to start it as a two

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>hour show. I wanted my storylines based in reality. I

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 1>want to give the women and the men equal time

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 1>on the roster, and then the goal is to bring

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>the show to television. And I mentioned this on Arials podcast,

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's important to me, so I'm gonna say it again.

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>And I wanted to be a SAG show, And what

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 1>that means is I wanted to be a union show,

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>which would mean each and every single one of my

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>wrestlers would be a member of the Screen Actors Guild

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:01.439
<v Speaker 1>and be entitled to all of UH insurance and medical

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 1>benefits and retirement plans that that entails. Now, I will

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 1>say this, the Screen Actors Guild is not the best union,

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 1>all right. There's a reason every c b A they

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 1>lose more and more. Actors should not be in charge

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.640
<v Speaker 1>of their own union. Most actors are far too sensitive

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>to be able to negotiate, or to even be able

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>to hire an insensitive lawyer that's willing to be cut throat. Producers,

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, don't seem to have that issue.

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>So although I love my man do let Hill and

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>his representation, I've been asked to run many a time,

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think that would go well. It would

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 1>turn into a TLC match very quickly. Um, but I'll

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 1>always vote for Mr Hill, even though you talk trash

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 1>on me about on Monday and I raw that was

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>cold blooded. But anyway, so the goal is to get

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>them all unionized, right, which is a big deal, which

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>is something I I would support all wrestlers to go after.

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 1>It won't happen under Vince's rule, but I believe when

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the w w E cells, that should be very first

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 1>thing that every single wrestler should have on the forefront

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>of their of their goal list is unionized day one.

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 1>That it should be a walkout the day, the day

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.879
<v Speaker 1>they sell the company, the day they sell it to

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>whoever new ownership is. Every wrestler should be like, good luck.

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 1>We want unionization. And I'm telling you right now. And

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the only reason I'm saying this is because I had

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.119
<v Speaker 1>a conversation back in the day and I know it

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to be true. Now I don't know if it would

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>still be in effect, but I'll tell you the conversation

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I had, um rest in peace. Bernie Martin. He was

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>a United States Marine and he was a local I

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>don't remember which which part of the Teamsters union he

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>uh he repped, but he was a Teamster and he

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 1>was my driver, my wife's driver, a bunch brother actors

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>that he was just the best, one of the best

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:53.479
<v Speaker 1>men I knew. And I was talking to him one

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>night about professional wrestling, and uh, he asked if they

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:00.239
<v Speaker 1>were unionized. Then I said no. He said, I want

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to introduce your buddy of my named John. I didn't

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>know John was the head of the Teamsters union at

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the time. Um, he may still be. I don't know

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:10.479
<v Speaker 1>if he's alive. This is a very long time, over

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>a decade ago. And uh, he said, you should talk

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>to some of the wrestlers there and let them know

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 1>that if they did have interest in unionizing, Teamsters would

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 1>support that and absorb them bring them in, which would

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>be insane. Now that's good for the teamsters, right, because

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>they get more union dudes, and it's a group of

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>workers that would never compete for any job that a

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>teamster has, so there's no risk for the teamsters. It's

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:40.959
<v Speaker 1>all reward. The wrestler's reward is the benefits of insurance, health, medical,

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff, so they don't have to be

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>self insured anymore. Right, And then they also get power

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>in negotiation. A teamster lawyer does not have time, nor

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>are they impressed by any executive anywhere, any suit on

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>the planet, like they just not have name. So the

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>wrestlers I talked to all told me the same thing.

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>That's never gonna happen. I said, why, They said, because

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Triple hs wouldn't go for it, and uh and they're right.

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>And literally that's what every single wrestler said. So that's

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>why I think when the sale comes and then it

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>literally is someone else's property, that's when wrestlers need to

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, let's start thinking about our future and union.

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>So I hope you guys do, but if you don't,

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 1>this could maybe be a model one day, you know, three,

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 1>four or five years, six years from now where they go,

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>holy crap, these efforts are actually pulled that off. Man,

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. So that's I mean, that's the big of it.

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm legit. I got a I got an email

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 1>on Monday, yesterday. This is a Tuesday, we're recording on Monday.

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I got an email with three listings that I was

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>already one. Two of them were nonsense, but one of

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:54.239
<v Speaker 1>them actually looked pretty good. It was a no at

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, but it actually looked pretty good.

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 1>So I'm looking in different parts of town. I don't

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>have a name yet. It's not gonna be the Federation's

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I want it to be reality based. I'd call it

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>West Coast Wrestling, but there's already a w c W,

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>so I can't do that. But I'll figure something out.

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm down to hear your thoughts. If you guys can

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 1>come up with a cool name, then uh then yeah,

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>of course I say that, and then in the Instagram

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 1>post that everybody like cool Scooby Scooby Dooby Wrestling. No,

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I want it based in reality. So while you may

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>think that witty joke is a good joke, I would

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>remind you that Ricky Gervais said wit is the lowest

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>form of human um. So bite your tongue or break

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>your finger before you crack that joke. Now even more

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>people do it. Um. But yeah, serious for real though,

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 1>if you think you have a cool name for it,

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you credit. I might even give you a

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 1>couple of bucks for it. You can what you claim

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the domain name and hold it hostage shroke from me. Um.

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, So that's that's the goal. I want women's

0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and men's wrestling. I want the storyline is based in reality.

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I want my wrestlers to be unionized performers, and yeah, man,

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I just want to make good wrestling. I don't. I don't.

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>It's not a dream, it's a plan and it will

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 1>be a reality. My only thing is how quickly can

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I pull it off and at what sacrifice. I've said

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 1>this before. Wrestling requires a hundred percent of you to

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>do it right, regardless of what side of the camera

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you're on. It's one of the reasons I wouldn't go

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>back to w w WE. I couldn't give him a

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent. Can't travel all over. But if I had

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>a local show in Los Angeles in an office that

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I could go to every day, and I would have

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 1>a booker because I cannot book to save my life.

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I can, but I can really write, and I can

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>connect with people, and I can pull good performances out

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>of people when their bosses didn't think that performance was

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>within them before. I know I can do that because

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I've seen it happen. I know what my strengths are.

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Damn well, know what I suck at. I was told

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>that I suck at enough, So yeah, so that's that's

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the plan. I hope you guys support it. I hope

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>you dig it. If you don't, you can be just

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>as vocal because, like I said, that stuff motivates me too.

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>I want to make you eat it, even if you

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>don't want to admit it. Later on you can go silent.

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>It's just as satisfying and seeing you go hey man,

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 1>right on, I was wrong, you pulled that off. So

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 1>so yeah. So that's that's the episode today. No past,

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>no no present, only the future. And I think the

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 1>future for wrestling is bright. I think this is a

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 1>about to be a huge rebirth for wrestling once this,

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>especially once the sale goes through and they will find

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>a buyer for it and they will sell the company,

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>And once that happens, I think wrestling is really going

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>to explode and just take on a whole new life.

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>And I hope it goes back more old school because

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>art usually go moves in cycles, right in a circle,

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's constantly evolving, but eventually it has to get

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 1>back to an idea that existed before that that inspires

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>a new move. It happens with painting, with movies, with fashion,

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>with sculpture, it happens with comedy. It happens with wrestling too.

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's today's episode. I appreciate you guys listening. I'll

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 1>be back next week with a brand new episode. Until

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 1>then on behalf of myself my awesome producer Alexis. But

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:19.319
<v Speaker 1>thank you for listening. We'll see you next week. Right here,

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