1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: M H. Welcome back everyone to Wrestling with Freddy. And 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: today's episode isn't even it's not the past, it's not 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: even the current product. It's the future. I did an 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: interview on the Aerial Helwani Show where I had mentioned 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: one of my dreams, which is now a plan, was 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: to start my own small, little indie wrestling federation, and 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: we'll go into what my goals with that are. But 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: a lot of wrestling fans saw it. Some of you 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: thought I was full of crap. Some of you really 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: believed in the idea. But we got so much feedback 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: that we're gonna deep dive into the plan and the 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: philosophy behind it, and I'm gonna share way more with 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: you that I'm probably even comfortable sharing, minus the financials, 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get it started right now. Welcome to 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: another episode of Wrestling with Freddie. Now stuffing up to 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: the mic. The host of Wrestling with Freddie Freddie Prince June. Yeah, 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: all right, you guys. So a few months ago I 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: was on the m M A Hour with Ariel Helwani, 19 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: who I like very much. I think he sells the 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: sport of mixed martial arts very well and he's randomly 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: a huge wrestling fan and if you go back a 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: few episodes, he was a guest on here. He's a 23 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: really good part of our family over here. And he 24 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: talked about being at the actual Montreal screw Job with 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels. Because he is a France Canadian. 26 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: We were having a conversation and I had never really 27 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: spoken publicly about it before, but it had been a 28 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: dream of mine for a long time. And and uh, 29 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you kind of how that dream came to 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 1: pass right now, because you can watch all the arial 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: stuff on his channel. Nobody really knows this, but I 32 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: almost became a showrunner for another wrestling federation whose name 33 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: I will not say. A friend of mine who financed 34 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: the company asked me to come help them try and 35 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: get a TV deal. So I was happy to help. 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: I love wrestling. I love the person who had this 37 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: promoters back and was financing the company. I have a 38 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: lot of I have a lot of respect for this person, 39 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: and so when they asked me for something, which is 40 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: very rare, it's an easy yes for me. There's someone 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: I liked doing favors for, and I don't feel they 42 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: asked enough. So I came in, no contract, no money, 43 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: no anything, and saw their product, saw the good stuff, 44 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: saw what I thought I could improve, and had another 45 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: conversation with the finance. Here I met the promoter. By 46 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: the way, it was an old school promoter. The promoter 47 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: was very professional and polite to me, look me in 48 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: the eye when we shook hands, that kind of stuff, 49 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: and then started selling me on on their their brand. 50 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: And it was an oversell too to my eyeball anyway, 51 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: and there was no need to oversell it. I feel 52 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: that people should always be very straightforward when dealing with 53 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: with other professionals in this in the same industry, that 54 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: being show business. Not that I'm a wrestling expert, but 55 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: I do you know what quality television and quality film is. 56 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: So I tried to relax him and put him in 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: ease and and well now you know it's a guy, 58 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: and and tell him that, uh that I was, you know, 59 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: a fan of the product and all this stuff, and 60 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: I mentioned where I thought I could help um who 61 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: I knew that I thought would come in and be 62 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: friendly to us and help improve you know, everything from 63 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: our on camera stuff to putting some credibility on commentating 64 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: to training, to to all kinds of things. Not that 65 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: I would train, but I knew, you know, some of 66 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: the best wrestling trainers in the business, because I treated 67 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: them with respect, the travels of the world that have 68 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: trained a lot of people. So and I wanted the 69 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: good people to work, So I didn't push on anything. 70 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: I knew I was there just for story stuff, and 71 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: and so I started breaking it down. And then I 72 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: started being very honest about how Hollywood perceives the wrestling business. 73 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: And it's not favorable, and it hasn't been ripple in 74 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: a very long time, or they would have pulled a 75 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: ton more professional wrestlers and lured them with with money 76 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: and Beverly Hills and and girls named Beverly and everything 77 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: and guy's name. Whatever you desire is here in Hollywood. 78 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: They can steal your way. They've done it countless times. 79 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: John Cena used to talk smack about the Rock for 80 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: being a part timer, and then Hollywood said, oh, I'm sorry, 81 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: you talked crap about the biggest star in the world. 82 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: How would you like to be one as well? Yes, 83 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: yes I would, And he pieced out. So it's it's 84 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: a foul temptress. But it can be. It could be 85 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: a beautiful temptress at the same time if you already 86 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: know who you are. So we talked about what I 87 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: thought needed to be done for TV based on conversations 88 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: that I've already had with executives, and I said, look, 89 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: I don't have the connections that I had in the 90 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: nineties when I was hot shit, but but the relationships 91 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: that I that I had, I'm there's only one producer 92 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: I've worked with that I really wouldn't work with again, 93 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: I have solid relationships. I'm always pro alway is on time, 94 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: always knew my ship, never was a drug addict, so 95 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: I didn't cause any problems. There was no reason for 96 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: people not to dig me. So the people who had 97 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: advanced up and we're in positions of authority now to 98 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: say yes, some of them were my friends or at 99 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: least acquaintances. So I said, here's the three places that 100 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: I could take us to, and he said, I have 101 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: a friend who maybe getting a promotion at this other 102 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: place as well. I said, cool, if it happens, let's 103 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: let's go there too. So we set up the three 104 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: meetings and all three and I want to write a 105 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: pilot for them as I say, look, you have You're 106 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to have something. They're gonna want to see 107 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: something because they don't know wrestling. Now, well we don't. 108 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: We don't really write it like that. We don't. We 109 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: don't write the w Wilay I said, I don't have 110 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: to write at the w W E way. I just 111 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: want to show them a format so they can understand 112 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: how long the show is, how long the matches are, 113 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: what the back states. He goes, well, you can just 114 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: pitch it. You're a great picture. And I think he 115 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: did like me for that, but he really just wanted 116 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: my name to help sell his show, which we found 117 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,559 Speaker 1: out down the room. So we go into the first 118 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: meeting and it was I believe the first one was 119 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: at the c W. And the gentleman that I knew 120 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: there was Mark Petowitz. See I'm comfortable saying. And Mark 121 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: was one of the original execs on Buffy the Vampire 122 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: Slayer like way back in the day, and he runs 123 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: the CW and his business model is what keeps the 124 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: CW afloat. It's how they can afford to make all 125 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: their DC shows, whether you think they're good or not. 126 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: They have a very He came from their business affairs department. 127 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: So he was a lawyer negotiating contracts, which is not 128 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: usually a guy that I like. But he knows that 129 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm very straight up about it. And they have a 130 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: crazy contract structure there as well. But those actors are 131 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: still making way more than wrestlers, so as far as 132 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: budget and what these these wrestlers would be paid, because 133 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have be a license deal like US, a 134 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: licensed Monday Night Raw. They don't own Monday Night Raw, 135 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: so this would still be on the cheap for them, 136 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: an affordable show. They said, we don't want to script, 137 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: so we go in, we pitch it, and the promoter 138 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: takes over the pitch. I'm about maybe four minutes in 139 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 1: and he and he and he takes over the pitch, 140 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: and so I stopped talking. It doesn't work if we're 141 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: both talking at the same time. And he goes and 142 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: he goes, and it's about fifteen minutes in and I see, 143 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: I see Mark shaking. Is not shaking his head, but 144 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: it's an internal head shake. I've normally had twenty plus years. 145 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: And I see the other exacts, and I know when 146 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: they're tuning out on a pitch because I've had plenty 147 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: of bad ones myself, and so he finally finishes up. 148 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: And the last thing you wanna have happened at the 149 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: end of the pitch is say well, thank you, we'll 150 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: be in touch. That means that sucks and we don't 151 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: want it. It doesn't mean your idea sucks. It just 152 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: means they think it sucks. If they ask questions, there's 153 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: obviously interest. So I already know where this is going. 154 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: And the meeting stops, and right away Mark and this 155 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: other guy I don't remember his name in stereo, they say, well, 156 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: thank you very much, we'll be in touch. And I 157 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: shake my head and we're walking out and Mark puts 158 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: a hand on my shoulder and he says, hey, come 159 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: back in here after you say goodbye if you can. 160 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: I say, yeah, okay, So I go and I talked 161 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: to the sales group right and uh, I say, all right, 162 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: you know the next time, and and he's even apologizing, sorry, 163 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: I kind of I barreled on there and you were 164 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: doing great. He did not care if I was doing great. 165 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: I think he just was looking for a door to 166 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: get opened so he could try to sell a show. Right, 167 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: they leave, I go back in and Mark goes, what 168 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: the hell was that? He actually didn't cuss. He rarely cusses. 169 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: He goes, what was that, Freddy? I say, I don't know, man, 170 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't the meeting that I thought it was gonna be. 171 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: I said, I have a different pitch if you want 172 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: to hear what I think wrestling could be. Although I 173 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: know you guys aren't in the market for this. He goes, well, listen, 174 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: we don't want to buy a wrestling show, but let 175 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: me let me see what you got. Say all right. 176 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: So we go back and the financier, the one who 177 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: called me, who me for help. I said, oh my gosh, 178 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. So and so is not going to 179 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: do that again. Uh, please don't leave, Please come to 180 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: the next pitch. I say, I'm not going anywhere. Don't worry. 181 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: I made a commitment work good. So I have a 182 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: good conversation or what I think was a good conversation 183 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: with the promoter and uh, I say, look, I'm not trying. 184 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: I'm very directed him. I say, I'm not trying to 185 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: steal your your show. I don't have a contract. I 186 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: get no money if we sell this, none, not a 187 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: not a single dollar. I just want to put my 188 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: friend in a position for this type of wrestling to 189 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: succeed because the ku genera can be because I believe 190 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: in this type of wrestling, so stupid and uh he says, yeah, okay, 191 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: you know or all on the same. So the next 192 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: place won't take a pitch without a script, which is 193 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: what I thought. So I write one up and I 194 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: try to give even the wrestlers that I can't fit 195 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: into the show wrestling a moment backstage, a little time 196 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: to shine. Right without telling me before we go into 197 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: the pitch, dude rewrites everything that I did to make 198 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: it fit more what he wants. Now you can look 199 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: at this two ways. This is his baby. It's his baby, 200 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: and here comes this jerk with his ideas and what 201 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: he feels are major changes. Even though I stayed true 202 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: to every single character. I spoke with every wrestler before 203 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: I wrote for them, and noticed I didn't say before 204 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: I made changes because I made zero. I worked with 205 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: what I was given because I didn't know that I 206 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: wasn't being paid. It was a favor. So you show 207 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: me what you think your best self is, and that's 208 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna work with. I'm not going to change 209 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: the thing and I didn't, so the whole script gets rewritten. 210 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: We go and we have the pitch and he lets 211 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: me pitch, which was really cool and it's a great pitch. 212 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: We killed it. They seem actually into it, which I 213 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: was surprised by. And this woman says, you know, Freddie 214 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: called me afterwards. So I call her and she says, Hey, 215 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: we're actually excited about this. I'm excited to read your 216 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: your pilot. I said, yeah, quit. I go. Look, it's 217 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 1: just a temporary thing, just so you can kind of 218 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: see what the flavors are and how the show goorks 219 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: goes okay. So I get a call that night from her, 220 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: which is weird. It would always be an email, and 221 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: it would never be that night unless it was like, 222 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, we love this and we have to 223 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: buy it, in which case it would be a phone 224 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: call because they don't want to avoid my lawyer cost 225 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: the more money. So I say hello, and I know 226 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: who it is, and she goes, Freddy, did you write this? 227 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: I said yeah. She goes, and we have a good 228 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: enough relationship. She goes, I really didn't respond to this 229 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: at all, and I was like, really, what about this? This? 230 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: So and so monologue. I thought that was a promo 231 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: we call it, but monologue they called. I go. I 232 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: thought that would be right up your alley because there's 233 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: no there's no monologue at all. I did say monologue. 234 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: Be goes, there's no monologues at all, Like, what do 235 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: you mean? Send send me the script because now I'm like, 236 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: I already know what's happened, and everything has changed every 237 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: single page. And I called my friend back. I got yed. 238 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: This old man is trying to sabotage me. I don't 239 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: know why. I don't have a contract with him. You 240 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: don't what I don't. I was doing a favor, but 241 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: clearly he does not want my help. So I'm gonna 242 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: step back. I go, if you want to read my pilot, 243 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: I'll send it to you. She goes, don't even send 244 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: it to me. I'm not buying this show, said, all right. 245 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: So it's the third meeting that's coming up, and I 246 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: text dude to UH to talk about the pitch, and 247 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: I don't hear back. And then Uh. I texted him again, 248 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: it's about a week out. I don't hear back. Third 249 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: fourth fit text nothing. I text the boss the finance 250 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: here and I say, hey, what's going on. So I've 251 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: texted homeboy a few times. I haven't heard anything back 252 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: our meetings in like two days or this was a 253 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: text that I wrote. And I get a phone call 254 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: back and she says, uh, Freddy, I'm really sorry. I 255 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: thought he told me he was gonna he was gonna 256 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: talk to you, but he doesn't. He doesn't want to 257 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: work with you, and he's really uncomfortable, and so we're 258 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: just gonna walk away. And I said, let me ask 259 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: you something. Did his friend get the promotion that he 260 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: was talking about? And it's dead client on her end 261 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: of the phone, and I literally almost said the name. 262 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: I literally go, this is insane. I said, I was 263 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: doing this for free, and now that he doesn't need 264 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: me to get a meeting at a TV network because 265 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: his friends there, he's just kicking me out. And she goes, 266 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so sorry. Da da da dada. 267 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: I go, it's all right. I go, I'm not mad 268 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: at you. I go, you know, it wasn't It wasn't 269 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: a job anyway. Best of luck, good luck. And they 270 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: actually got a TV deal without any of my assistants whatsoever. 271 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: They didn't need it. I didn't have anger when it 272 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: was over because it was just more weird and the 273 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: kind of guy he was was so old school and 274 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: and transparent that you know, I wasn't trying to smash 275 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: on the guy before or after the fact, because it's 276 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: just a different were from different generations, and neither one 277 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: of us is going to change. So instead of getting angry, 278 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: all that energy started, Like I don't know, man, It's like, 279 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: do you know when you're in a dream and you 280 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: know you're about to wake up and reality starts to 281 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: slip into the context of the dream, so all of 282 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: a sudden, whatever you were dreaming feels much more attainable. 283 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: Does that make sense to anyone out there at all? 284 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: It's happened to me a million times in my life, 285 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: and I feel like it's one of the main reasons 286 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: why I've never not accomplished a goal that I set 287 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: my mind to. Every everything I wanted to do in Hollywood, 288 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: I did everything I wanted to do. In wrestling, I did. 289 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm not even done with jiu jitsu, but every goal 290 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: I said in jiu jitsu, I've accomplished so far and 291 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: that journey will never in thank God. So I started 292 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: dreaming about wrestling. I started dreaming about men's wrestling, women's 293 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: wrestling bodies smashing together, or as Biggie would say, medi men, 294 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: media manly men slapping meet against one another. That's a 295 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: Biggie would say. Shout out to Biggie, I'd love you. 296 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: So I start having this dream, and I remember my godfather, 297 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: Bob Wall Rest in peace. He said, dreams are what 298 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: happens when other people are making plans, and that philosophy 299 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: is one of the main reasons. Now it's one of 300 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: many reasons that I've been able to find success. I 301 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: don't spend too much time dreaming. The moment I have 302 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: the dream and I know it's something I want, I 303 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: start planning. So the first thing I did was call 304 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: my accountant and I said, Hey, I'm gonna try to 305 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: figure out how much money I need to uh to 306 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: start a wrestling promotion, and I'm gonna hit you back. 307 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: And he said, you better go get a job because 308 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you spend any of the money 309 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: that you saved up over the years for wrestling promotion. 310 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: And I respect my accountant. I called my manager, I 311 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: called my agent. I said, yo, man, I want to 312 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: go back to work, and they said, great, Why And 313 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: I told my manager the reason why you started laughing 314 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: at me. You said, you're absolutely insane. I said, I know, 315 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: man as, but I'll have fun doing it. I only 316 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: want to work with, you know, good people. We don't 317 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: have to be, you know, desperate for stuff. But let 318 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: people know that I'm that I'm hungry. And I had 319 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: never worked for Netflix before. I didn't really know anyone 320 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: over there. So I had like a video general meeting 321 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: with them and it went well, and they offered me 322 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: this romantic comedy. Of course, it's it's always a romantic 323 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: comedy if it's for me, if it's if I audition 324 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: for your movie it's an action movie, or like I 325 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: want to be a tough guy or something like that. 326 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: If it's Sweetie sweet Cakes, then they're like, oh, man, 327 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: give that crap to Freddie. So I read this script 328 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: and it's charming as all hell. It's a Latino family, 329 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: and you gotta remember that's always been something I've been 330 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: insecure about because my father was half so I'm only 331 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: a quarter, right, So I was never really fully except 332 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: did I felt by a lot of the Latino community. 333 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: I think I've touched on this before. It used to 334 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: be called the n c l A or the National 335 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: Council for Larrassa, and now it's something different. But screw 336 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: those guys straight up. I told them I didn't speak 337 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: Spanish on purpose, just to hear what they would say 338 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: about me and my father, and they said it all baby. 339 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: So anytime I get an opportunity like that, and it 340 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: isn't often, at least a lot of times, I'll change 341 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: the name after the fact, Like on his name was 342 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: not Cole Ortiz. Coal is not a Latino name. His 343 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: name was like Cole McGuire and they're like, oh, look, 344 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: we hired Freddie and this will look like we're a 345 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: diverse show. Ha ha. It's Ortiz And that's what Hollywood does. 346 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: That's diversity for them. Everyone's white until you hire someone 347 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: that's not and then you change the name. So anyway, um, 348 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 1: I take this this joy. I meet with the director, 349 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: female director who I just Her name is Gabriella, and 350 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: I just fell in love with her. Man. She gave 351 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: me some of the Granted I hadn't worked in forever, 352 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: so notes weren't fresh in my head, but some of 353 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: the things she said to me just unlocked a ton 354 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: of ship. I got to work with this great actress, 355 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: Amy Garcia. You guys know her from that show Lucifer. 356 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 1: She plays the nerd. She basically plays Shakira in this movie, 357 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: and it's like sexy and the opposite of her character 358 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: on Lucifer. She's just a stone assassin and she's partners 359 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: with a j who we've had on this show. They're 360 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,959 Speaker 1: too crazy Puerto Rican girls and their writing partners, and 361 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: I swear in ten years they're going to be running 362 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: the business. I'm doing this movie and it's making me 363 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: fall in love with acting again. And as hungry as 364 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: I was getting to act again, it never outweighed the 365 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: desire to start the promotion. So long winded story. Notice 366 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: I didn't say long story short, because that was not short. 367 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: Here's the plan. I was talking with Sam Roberts, who 368 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: has a lovely podcast as well, the Sam Roberts Show 369 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: last year Professional in the Damn Business, and he mentioned 370 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: g c W. He goes, you have to watch it. 371 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: They tell a story every single show and it's great. 372 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: He goes, they're gonna ask some stuff that that you 373 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: don't vibe with, and they're gonna have some stuff that 374 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: you love, I know it go okay. So I watch 375 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: a g c W show and sure enough I see 376 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: a death match, and I'm freaking like, it's just too much. 377 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: It was too much blood for me, right, too much, 378 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: and there's room for blood and wrestling. I believe that 379 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: it's a it's a big, big part. And it wasn't 380 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: every match in g c W, which was smart, but 381 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: I was not. I was not prepared. I watched the 382 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: rest of the show and I thought they did a 383 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: great job. And I started watching other shows, older shows, 384 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: old Ring of Honor. A started listening to Jim Cornett 385 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: and his philosophies on wrestling, started listening to other promoters 386 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: and people in the business and their philosophies on wrestling. 387 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: I started watching what other wrestlers were trying to do. 388 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: I started asking everyone I knew in the business questions. 389 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: Then I started looking at arenas locally here and and 390 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: what it would cost a rhom. And then as I 391 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: saw what my opportunities would be in this business, as 392 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: there would be more of them after I did the 393 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: Netflix one, I started saying, well, I can accelerate the plan, 394 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: or I could keep the plan as it is, do 395 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: a couple more of these and own the space, which 396 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: I believe right now is the plan that I'm going 397 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: to execute. I've already have a commercial realtor that I 398 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: know and love. She's already looking at properties for me. 399 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: I would love to have a all time home for this. 400 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: The plan was originally a two year plan. Now I 401 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: should have the money for a three year plan, meaning 402 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to make money for three years before 403 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, man, i gotta go do another day movie. 404 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: You have to be in Scooby, almost said Mother Treuk, 405 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: and have to be in Scooby Part seven or some 406 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: crap like that to keep inflouid. So so I started 407 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: looking for properties, and then social media did what social 408 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: media does, which is like feeding frenzy. Right, It's like 409 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: baiting the water. And there's a lot of of wrestling 410 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: instagram pages and websites out there that do dirt sheets 411 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: and wrestling news and things like that, and they need content, 412 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: and so they picked up on this and put it 413 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: out and then all of a sudden, all these like 414 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: indie wrestlers and indie refs and indie musicians who have 415 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: done wrestling stuff all started reaching out. And before I 416 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: get into this, let me say something. Whether you were 417 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: being real with me or whether you were trying to 418 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: troll and crap upon me, thank you. Some of you 419 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: wrote some stuff that was like you took the time 420 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: to not only say, hey, man, I would love to 421 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: come and be a part, but here's some wrestlers that 422 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: I respect and I think you would too. And for 423 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: you to take the time to do that, and it's 424 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: not just one cat that did that. That's the most 425 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: beautiful part of the wrestling community to me. I love that. 426 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: That's what acting used to be. I think I may 427 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: have told this story, but I did a movie with 428 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: Peter side Quest. I did a movie with Peter Falk, 429 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: who was amazing. People know him as Columbo, but this 430 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: guy was doing Cassavetti's movies in the seventies. Man is 431 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: just a gangster actor. And he was talking to me 432 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: one time on on the ride to work. We would 433 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: take the same van to work every day as in 434 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: New York City. We were both staying at the Essex 435 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: House hotel, and he would make me buy him his 436 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: true one hundred cigarettes at like two o'clock in the morning, 437 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: and the guy would just light one off the other 438 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: as it was going out, and he would run scenes 439 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: with me over and over. I was a naive, inexperienced actor, 440 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: and he was investing so much time in me, so 441 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: I'd buy the this cat's cigarettes how a light in 442 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: court for the guy. He was given me film school 443 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: one oh one in three months, and I was getting 444 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: four years of an education, right. But he used to 445 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: tell me about how it used to be. How freddy 446 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: are He said, Uh, do you and your acting class, 447 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, you get together? You do this? Do you 448 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: do that? It was always like a family for me 449 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: and and Nick and John. He's talking about these legends 450 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: and I had to look him in the face and 451 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: just be like, nah, man, it's it's not like that. 452 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: It's cutthroat and everybody's ready to kill each other for 453 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: a job. And he looked so disappointed. I never saw 454 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: him long for the past. He was a life through 455 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: the windshield guy, at least that's what he tried to 456 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 1: impart on me. Always look forward, Freddie, always look forward. 457 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: And so when I see that in the wrestling world, 458 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: and I've met so many cool cats, man, so many 459 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: of you are awesome. And for the ones that talk 460 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: trash for real, thank you like that motivates me way 461 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: more than people say. And you can do it like 462 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: I would have much rather say some have someone say 463 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: you suck. That will never happen that way. When it does, 464 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: you just have to sit in that like it's there 465 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: every week on TV, and you have to know that 466 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: everything you said was dead wrong. That to me has 467 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: always been way more fun for both parties, I think, 468 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: because then at least you're getting to watch more wrestling. 469 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: So thank you that said, I'm not hiring anyone yet. 470 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm not hiring anyone yet. So if your friends ask 471 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: you if this story is true, you tell him yes, 472 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: and then you send them the link to this episode 473 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: so that you don't have to have the thirty minute 474 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: thirty minute explanation as to win. So plan on having 475 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: this thing up and running in eighteen months. That's my plan. 476 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: There's a way for me to get it done sooner, 477 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: but it requires me going to Australia for three months 478 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: and leaving my family. So I'm not a big fan 479 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: of of of doing that, um, regardless of of how 480 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: kind and respectful the studio is, unless I was in 481 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: a position where I had to. I love being a 482 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: dad it's the reason I walked away from the business 483 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: in the first place. However, there are moments where I'm like, 484 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: you know what they could come for the summer. You know, 485 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: we could get it done and then I can get 486 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: these cats in the ring. So my goal. I don't 487 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: know how long I want the show to be yet. 488 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: I think I want a two hour show at least 489 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: in the beginning. I doubt I'll have a TV contract 490 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: right away. It's very difficult to maintain ownership and get 491 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: a TV deal in the beginning like that, if you're established, 492 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: they can come in and license you or by a 493 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,239 Speaker 1: portion of you, but you'll still be in control. So 494 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: if I started off as live shows and I film it. 495 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: By the way, if you want to know if I'm serious, 496 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: I already purchased a used like kit that was an 497 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: arena kit used even used these mugs is expensive, but 498 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: I want this to look legit. So it's literally sitting 499 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: in my storage unit because my man was like, Yo, 500 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: this dude selling it at a really good price if 501 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: you want to get in on this. So I did. 502 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: I think I want to start it as a two 503 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: hour show. I wanted my storylines based in reality. I 504 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: want to give the women and the men equal time 505 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: on the roster, and then the goal is to bring 506 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: the show to television. And I mentioned this on Arials podcast, 507 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: but it's important to me, so I'm gonna say it again. 508 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: And I wanted to be a SAG show, And what 509 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: that means is I wanted to be a union show, 510 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: which would mean each and every single one of my 511 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: wrestlers would be a member of the Screen Actors Guild 512 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: and be entitled to all of UH insurance and medical 513 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: benefits and retirement plans that that entails. Now, I will 514 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: say this, the Screen Actors Guild is not the best union, 515 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: all right. There's a reason every c b A they 516 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: lose more and more. Actors should not be in charge 517 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: of their own union. Most actors are far too sensitive 518 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: to be able to negotiate, or to even be able 519 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: to hire an insensitive lawyer that's willing to be cut throat. Producers, 520 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: on the other hand, don't seem to have that issue. 521 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: So although I love my man do let Hill and 522 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: his representation, I've been asked to run many a time, 523 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: and I don't think that would go well. It would 524 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: turn into a TLC match very quickly. Um, but I'll 525 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: always vote for Mr Hill, even though you talk trash 526 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: on me about on Monday and I raw that was 527 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: cold blooded. But anyway, so the goal is to get 528 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: them all unionized, right, which is a big deal, which 529 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: is something I I would support all wrestlers to go after. 530 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: It won't happen under Vince's rule, but I believe when 531 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: the w w E cells, that should be very first 532 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: thing that every single wrestler should have on the forefront 533 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: of their of their goal list is unionized day one. 534 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: That it should be a walkout the day, the day 535 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: they sell the company, the day they sell it to 536 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: whoever new ownership is. Every wrestler should be like, good luck. 537 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: We want unionization. And I'm telling you right now. And 538 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: the only reason I'm saying this is because I had 539 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: a conversation back in the day and I know it 540 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: to be true. Now I don't know if it would 541 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: still be in effect, but I'll tell you the conversation 542 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: I had, um rest in peace. Bernie Martin. He was 543 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: a United States Marine and he was a local I 544 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: don't remember which which part of the Teamsters union he 545 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: uh he repped, but he was a Teamster and he 546 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: was my driver, my wife's driver, a bunch brother actors 547 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: that he was just the best, one of the best 548 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,479 Speaker 1: men I knew. And I was talking to him one 549 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: night about professional wrestling, and uh, he asked if they 550 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 1: were unionized. Then I said no. He said, I want 551 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: to introduce your buddy of my named John. I didn't 552 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: know John was the head of the Teamsters union at 553 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: the time. Um, he may still be. I don't know 554 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 1: if he's alive. This is a very long time, over 555 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: a decade ago. And uh, he said, you should talk 556 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: to some of the wrestlers there and let them know 557 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: that if they did have interest in unionizing, Teamsters would 558 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: support that and absorb them bring them in, which would 559 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: be insane. Now that's good for the teamsters, right, because 560 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: they get more union dudes, and it's a group of 561 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: workers that would never compete for any job that a 562 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: teamster has, so there's no risk for the teamsters. It's 563 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 1: all reward. The wrestler's reward is the benefits of insurance, health, medical, 564 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, so they don't have to be 565 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: self insured anymore. Right, And then they also get power 566 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: in negotiation. A teamster lawyer does not have time, nor 567 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: are they impressed by any executive anywhere, any suit on 568 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: the planet, like they just not have name. So the 569 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: wrestlers I talked to all told me the same thing. 570 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: That's never gonna happen. I said, why, They said, because 571 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: Triple hs wouldn't go for it, and uh and they're right. 572 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: And literally that's what every single wrestler said. So that's 573 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: why I think when the sale comes and then it 574 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: literally is someone else's property, that's when wrestlers need to 575 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: be like, hey, let's start thinking about our future and union. 576 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: So I hope you guys do, but if you don't, 577 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: this could maybe be a model one day, you know, three, 578 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: four or five years, six years from now where they go, 579 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: holy crap, these efforts are actually pulled that off. Man, 580 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: that's crazy. So that's I mean, that's the big of it. 581 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm legit. I got a I got an email 582 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: on Monday, yesterday. This is a Tuesday, we're recording on Monday. 583 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: I got an email with three listings that I was 584 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: already one. Two of them were nonsense, but one of 585 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,239 Speaker 1: them actually looked pretty good. It was a no at 586 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: the end of the day, but it actually looked pretty good. 587 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: So I'm looking in different parts of town. I don't 588 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: have a name yet. It's not gonna be the Federation's 589 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: I want it to be reality based. I'd call it 590 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: West Coast Wrestling, but there's already a w c W, 591 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: so I can't do that. But I'll figure something out. 592 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm down to hear your thoughts. If you guys can 593 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: come up with a cool name, then uh then yeah, 594 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: of course I say that, and then in the Instagram 595 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: post that everybody like cool Scooby Scooby Dooby Wrestling. No, 596 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: I want it based in reality. So while you may 597 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: think that witty joke is a good joke, I would 598 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: remind you that Ricky Gervais said wit is the lowest 599 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: form of human um. So bite your tongue or break 600 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: your finger before you crack that joke. Now even more 601 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: people do it. Um. But yeah, serious for real though, 602 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: if you think you have a cool name for it, 603 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: I'll give you credit. I might even give you a 604 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: couple of bucks for it. You can what you claim 605 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: the domain name and hold it hostage shroke from me. Um. 606 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, So that's that's the goal. I want women's 607 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: and men's wrestling. I want the storyline is based in reality. 608 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: I want my wrestlers to be unionized performers, and yeah, man, 609 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: I just want to make good wrestling. I don't. I don't. 610 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: It's not a dream, it's a plan and it will 611 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: be a reality. My only thing is how quickly can 612 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: I pull it off and at what sacrifice. I've said 613 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: this before. Wrestling requires a hundred percent of you to 614 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: do it right, regardless of what side of the camera 615 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: you're on. It's one of the reasons I wouldn't go 616 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: back to w w WE. I couldn't give him a 617 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: hundred percent. Can't travel all over. But if I had 618 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: a local show in Los Angeles in an office that 619 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: I could go to every day, and I would have 620 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: a booker because I cannot book to save my life. 621 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: I can, but I can really write, and I can 622 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: connect with people, and I can pull good performances out 623 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: of people when their bosses didn't think that performance was 624 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: within them before. I know I can do that because 625 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: I've seen it happen. I know what my strengths are. 626 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: Damn well, know what I suck at. I was told 627 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: that I suck at enough, So yeah, so that's that's 628 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: the plan. I hope you guys support it. I hope 629 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: you dig it. If you don't, you can be just 630 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: as vocal because, like I said, that stuff motivates me too. 631 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: I want to make you eat it, even if you 632 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: don't want to admit it. Later on you can go silent. 633 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: It's just as satisfying and seeing you go hey man, 634 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: right on, I was wrong, you pulled that off. So 635 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: so yeah. So that's that's the episode today. No past, 636 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: no no present, only the future. And I think the 637 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: future for wrestling is bright. I think this is a 638 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: about to be a huge rebirth for wrestling once this, 639 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: especially once the sale goes through and they will find 640 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: a buyer for it and they will sell the company, 641 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: And once that happens, I think wrestling is really going 642 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: to explode and just take on a whole new life. 643 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: And I hope it goes back more old school because 644 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: art usually go moves in cycles, right in a circle, 645 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: and it's constantly evolving, but eventually it has to get 646 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: back to an idea that existed before that that inspires 647 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: a new move. It happens with painting, with movies, with fashion, 648 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: with sculpture, it happens with comedy. It happens with wrestling too. 649 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: So that's today's episode. I appreciate you guys listening. I'll 650 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: be back next week with a brand new episode. Until 651 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: then on behalf of myself my awesome producer Alexis. But 652 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: thank you for listening. We'll see you next week. Right here, 653 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm wrestling with Fredday Peece. This has been a production 654 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: of I Hearts Michael to podcast Network. For more podcasts 655 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: for my Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, 656 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. 657 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: H m hm