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Speaker 1: we go, boys, It is Draft week, coming to your
Speaker 1: live from the s WBC Mortgage bedroom here in Frisco, Texas.
Speaker 1: Shannon Gross with my sidekicks, Nate Newton, Jesse Hollo, what's
Speaker 1: up and coughing? Kurt Daniels all morning, No, starting with that,
Speaker 1: he's got a health and he's okay. How are things?
Speaker 1: How are so you had to check up recently? Kurt?
Speaker 1: How are things are you good? No? I'm good, doing
Speaker 1: all right? You know. Yeah, I can't complain. I think
Speaker 1: everything's where it should be. Everything's functioning properly. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so so far, so good. Yeah, everything off the
Speaker 1: way I need to Kurt you, Yeah, yeah to you?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was nice. Yeah. Speaking of I don't
Speaker 1: see you guys because I don't have the stream pulled up,
Speaker 1: but I have on my ears. What heaven must sound like.
Speaker 1: I received a pair of those noise canceling headphones, I
Speaker 1: think the number one in the seven hundred, and not
Speaker 1: only are they comfortable, but these are the best like
Speaker 1: hearing things I have ever put on my ear. Do
Speaker 1: you guys have yours on? Oh? Yeah, they're amazing. Thank you, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say thank you. Bos We kind of got
Speaker 1: a little crossed up on mine. Um. I remember I
Speaker 1: wanted the headphones and my wife told her, the young lady,
Speaker 1: that I wanted buds because you see me, we need
Speaker 1: buds on. But you know, I wanted their phones and
Speaker 1: it was having problems but the buds, so probably next
Speaker 1: week I have mine. But man, I saw y'alls on
Speaker 1: the deal. Nice nice, Jesse got nice man. Wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got mine on man, like the Bluetooth Action and everything.
Speaker 1: I love it, man, I take my walks with them
Speaker 1: as I love it. The sound is great, the noise
Speaker 1: cancelation is great. You know. The thing that I'm trying
Speaker 1: to feel him before Kurt say something is why I
Speaker 1: get to feel the Jesse. You're trying to block everybody
Speaker 1: anyway with the noise counselan so that when people won't
Speaker 1: call your name man, don't do that, and you don't
Speaker 1: need to run around with those. I learned that from
Speaker 1: the school of Nate Newton. Yeah. Wow, well I look bad.
Speaker 1: I look bad. I need to get a haircut. Wow. Anyway, Kurt,
Speaker 1: how you doing. I'm doing well. It's good to see
Speaker 1: you guys again. You guys ready for this draft. I'm ready, man,
Speaker 1: I am ready, more than ready. Yeah. All right, Shannon?
Speaker 1: You okay over there? Not hearing anything. Everybody in the cut.
Speaker 1: We lost Shannon on the web. It's nice. We got
Speaker 1: the draft coming up, so I mean I'm back. Oh,
Speaker 1: he's back. All right. We're just getting ready to talk draft. Shannon.
Speaker 1: What do you think? Let's go go with it, Kurt,
Speaker 1: let's go all right? All right, So we got to
Speaker 1: the seventeenth pick. What are you feeling. You got a
Speaker 1: certain position you're liking. Sounds like a few guys start
Speaker 1: with you. I'm with you, Jess. Hmm. It's been lost, jest.
Speaker 1: Safety or corner, safety your corner, safety, your corner, and
Speaker 1: we're not going safety your corner in this first pick
Speaker 1: in the NFL draft. I think we're doing ourselves with
Speaker 1: this service. You know what, though, but the c J.
Speaker 1: Henderson has been the one that's been slotted over the
Speaker 1: last few weeks, and they talk about Atlanta moving up
Speaker 1: just to get this CJ. Henderson. So I'm with you, man, uh,
Speaker 1: we we need some type of corner, some type of safety.
Speaker 1: Man if and if all those fails, we need that
Speaker 1: that is Rother, that Chase some kid LSU And they've
Speaker 1: got a linebacker here at Oklahoma. I'm not one not
Speaker 1: mispronounced his name and I say it right. So they've
Speaker 1: got the kid at Oklahoma that's a good outside linebacker.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of defensive players out there. But
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Jesse. Corner and safety should be a
Speaker 1: just a knee the hungry, hungry need for us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of these mock drafts that had
Speaker 1: Chason following us and US taken him. Jesse, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be okay with that. I'm okay with it.
Speaker 1: I still think there's other needs that we need to address. Um,
Speaker 1: if we don't if we don't understand that this thing
Speaker 1: is going to be a passing league and we gotta
Speaker 1: be able to defend the back in, we're gonna find
Speaker 1: ourselves in a situation again where we went up against
Speaker 1: the top quarterbacks, We're not gonna be able to hold up.
Speaker 1: I think people are gonna start really missing Byron Jones.
Speaker 1: Yeah sure, I mean, but what if like Henderson's gone.
Speaker 1: It sounds like the secondary cornerbacks you know, might be
Speaker 1: a little deeper than your ad dressers. I mean, would
Speaker 1: you would you rather take a guy that can get
Speaker 1: to the quarterback on the defensive line that I've seen Chason,
Speaker 1: I've seen Ken Law defensive tackle thrown in there under us,
Speaker 1: I've seen Henderson. McKinney the safety is a name has
Speaker 1: been in a few months drafts. To us, that's who
Speaker 1: I like the most. That the McKinney kid is who
Speaker 1: I like out Alabama the most. Both the kid at
Speaker 1: lsue he needs to be a better open field tackler
Speaker 1: and McKinney. But they say, a guy that can line
Speaker 1: up in the slot, he can line up on outside receivers,
Speaker 1: he can stand back in the hole. Is the Xavier
Speaker 1: kid and the McKinney kid. That's what that's what we need.
Speaker 1: We need that all around safety because and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying what this coaching staff needs a want, because we
Speaker 1: don't know what they what they desire, But I would
Speaker 1: like that all around athlete that can play multiple deals
Speaker 1: in multiple sub package. We need safeties that are not
Speaker 1: leaving the field. In the last few years, we've had
Speaker 1: too many safeties leaving the field and that and maybe
Speaker 1: that's why they have always thoughted won a position of need.
Speaker 1: But if you got a safety that can play multiple
Speaker 1: positions and slide down in the slot, now you can, uh,
Speaker 1: if you can ever get that guy in here, now
Speaker 1: you now you can side looking at that front end
Speaker 1: a little bit more with a few more picks. Yes,
Speaker 1: some our our Dallas Cowboys dot com writers let me
Speaker 1: run through. They released their mock draft I believe last week. Um,
Speaker 1: Dave Hellman's got us taken delp it from from LSU.
Speaker 1: The safety. Yeah, I mean that, that's that's Dave. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's Dave. Was looking out for his homeboy. That's
Speaker 1: Day looking out for his homeboy. Got the best the
Speaker 1: safety out of Alabama. McKinney, Rob, that's the man, gold
Speaker 1: Shannon Gold. Rob's got got us taken Henderson out of
Speaker 1: the cornerback out of Florida. And he won't be that Kyle.
Speaker 1: Let's go Rob, but he won't be that, Jesson, I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm serious, man, This kid three weeks ago
Speaker 1: was broadly mentioned in the top fifteen players, the top
Speaker 1: ten players now and this this could be rumor, you know,
Speaker 1: because rumors are alive, and well more so now than
Speaker 1: any other time because of the unique situation in the draft.
Speaker 1: But that c j Henderson when they first mentioned him.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you felt, Jesse, but I was like, man,
Speaker 1: this is we need a big guy six one, two
Speaker 1: or four or whatever. He's over two hundred pounds long arms.
Speaker 1: He's what you're looking at the traditional corner in these days, man,
Speaker 1: And so who would challenge one on one? So here
Speaker 1: we go. Uh, there's other guys out there, But that
Speaker 1: that was the guy I was. I was. I was
Speaker 1: salivating for that kid. Man, I don't have to They'll
Speaker 1: have to move up if they want to get him,
Speaker 1: just the way everybody's signed to push him in these
Speaker 1: last few days. In these last weeks, man, Like I say,
Speaker 1: a lot of people were hol of things. You know, hey,
Speaker 1: we like this guy. We're doing this and trying to
Speaker 1: position themselves in a different way. But uh, I don't
Speaker 1: think teams can't afford to do that this year because
Speaker 1: with the unique situation or the virtuous draft, you know,
Speaker 1: you you measuring hand jacking round with somebody else and
Speaker 1: the person you really won't be gone. So you may
Speaker 1: be just throwing things out here out here now, but
Speaker 1: this thing's gonna be moving fast and he's gonna be
Speaker 1: furious and people are gonna be on the phone trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, cover up the phone. But you know what,
Speaker 1: this technology is something else. So you got to be
Speaker 1: precise and who you want and know who you want
Speaker 1: if they fall to you. But you wouldn't trade up.
Speaker 1: Who means not the reason I won't trade up and
Speaker 1: for a true first round pick. And this is what
Speaker 1: I'm thinking. I c J. Henderson, He's a true first
Speaker 1: round pick for the first round grade. I think. Nah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't at one spot, but Atlanta's at six team,
Speaker 1: So Atlanta's that's what you gotta trade with somebody who wanted.
Speaker 1: Atlanta is in the same situation as the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: all offense, no defense, and no special teams, so they're
Speaker 1: trying to afford the decide that so you got you
Speaker 1: gotta move up at least three spots, four spots, you know,
Speaker 1: So Uh, now you're talking about third round page. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I don't think they can afford to
Speaker 1: give up draft picks to move up a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be gun. They can help them
Speaker 1: on the defense. I'd hate for them to to lose
Speaker 1: some of that draft capital. I don't they could spend
Speaker 1: later because they need guys they need they don't have.
Speaker 1: I don't think one player is gonna put them over
Speaker 1: the top, So I don't think it's worth giving up,
Speaker 1: you know, draft picks to try to move up a
Speaker 1: couple of spots. Yes, I really might, knowing what you're
Speaker 1: thinking on them, Yeah, yeah, yeah. My biggest thing is
Speaker 1: is for the for the Cowboys, they just have to
Speaker 1: be able to put themselves in the position to compete defensively.
Speaker 1: I think I think what you get and Tank and
Speaker 1: that whole defense, they're they're gonna be a lot put
Speaker 1: on their shoulders. You're gonna need those guys to step
Speaker 1: up and play big this year. I don't think you're
Speaker 1: gonna have Dak Prescott and these virtual workouts or whatever
Speaker 1: they are for a long time. So when we finally
Speaker 1: get back to football, there's going to be the offense
Speaker 1: takes a little bit longer always to catch up to
Speaker 1: the defense. So if the season starts and our offense
Speaker 1: is still trying to find their legs, our defense is
Speaker 1: gonna have to hold this thing down. And everything that's
Speaker 1: coming up into this the new NFL is going to
Speaker 1: be guys passing the football thirty thirty five forty times
Speaker 1: a game. And if we're not able to cover on
Speaker 1: the back end, it doesn't matter what we have up front.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have receivers running all open all over the place.
Speaker 1: We need some guys that's gonna be able to be
Speaker 1: man to man, get up in your face, cover and
Speaker 1: be able to run with some of these apples that
Speaker 1: down coming to the National Football League. So what you're
Speaker 1: saying is that splits split second of jam or that
Speaker 1: read that red and making a guy think gives that
Speaker 1: defensive linement that extra step to get in there on
Speaker 1: that quarterback. Absolutely, Jesse. Would you move up in this
Speaker 1: draft or from what you've seen the depth of the talent,
Speaker 1: you know obviously they need to you want to go
Speaker 1: after a safety or a cornerback. What would it take
Speaker 1: for you to move up or do you think they
Speaker 1: stay where they're at or do you think they should
Speaker 1: maybe fall back a few spots and get some more
Speaker 1: picks if the guy that they have actually really coveted
Speaker 1: is not available. Now, I understand moving back a couple
Speaker 1: of picks because they need all the draft capital that
Speaker 1: they can actually get right now. Giving up later round
Speaker 1: picks to me, is going to hurt. This hurt this team.
Speaker 1: They need every single pick. Nothing necessarily hit, but they
Speaker 1: need every single one of their picks to be a
Speaker 1: contributor to their football team for the next and the
Speaker 1: next year or two if this thing is going to
Speaker 1: take the next step and becoming a real championship type team.
Speaker 1: So giving up draft picks is not going to help
Speaker 1: this team. They need. They need so many players from
Speaker 1: this draft with low salaries with high impact on the
Speaker 1: field to help. What's the officially gonna have to be,
Speaker 1: you know, covering up for those big contract that they
Speaker 1: gave Tank, that they gave Dad, and that they're gonna
Speaker 1: give Dad, that they gave Zeke, that they gave Amari.
Speaker 1: So if you're having guys in the draft or losing
Speaker 1: guys in the draft or draft places because you're moving up,
Speaker 1: I think that only hurts you. They need every draft
Speaker 1: pick in this draft and for every one of the
Speaker 1: draft pick that they pick to kind of have some
Speaker 1: success early on, quick, faster than the hurry. See, I
Speaker 1: don't think this. You know, you gotta go ahead on Kurt.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, it's fine. I just saying I agree completely.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be totally opposed to them trading down. I mean,
Speaker 1: if the guy they really don't cover it is there
Speaker 1: and they think you can get him a couple picks later,
Speaker 1: I'm with Jesse, I'd take a couple extra picks later
Speaker 1: on if they still think they can get their guy.
Speaker 1: Like I definitely don't think it's worth moving up because
Speaker 1: they're not one guy away from, you know, changing things
Speaker 1: over or whatever. The thing here is that I agree
Speaker 1: with Jess a hundred percent is you're not gonna hit
Speaker 1: on every one of these guys. But for you for
Speaker 1: you to float somewhere else in this draft and not
Speaker 1: understand that your issue is defense, that you have a
Speaker 1: new offensive head coach, coordinators and defensive coordinator, that things
Speaker 1: through virtual is not going to always be the smoothest
Speaker 1: way to do things. That's an option that you have.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to uh do something defensively, not spectacler,
Speaker 1: but at least hold your own defensively. You just can't
Speaker 1: go out there just be a seal and giving up
Speaker 1: point at the point. At the point, I mean the
Speaker 1: coaches that are new in this league. We're putting in
Speaker 1: new systems, new offensive defensive coordinators. You are. This is
Speaker 1: the first time that a coach that's got say like
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers uh uh out of Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs or even the Patriots by losing their quarterback, they
Speaker 1: still have a jump because they have infrastructure that's already
Speaker 1: in place. Cowboys will have an infrastructure that's in place
Speaker 1: no more. How do you uh let players know who
Speaker 1: you are as a coach if you never see them.
Speaker 1: So the first time they're gonna have an impact of
Speaker 1: seeing you is maybe two months from now, three months
Speaker 1: from now. We don't know. So we don't know who
Speaker 1: MacArthur is, and we don't know what this culture is.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can threaten Kurt all day on this,
Speaker 1: on this, on this, on this camera here, but Kurt,
Speaker 1: like hen, you got no fear because I can't do
Speaker 1: nothing to him. I just love you, Kurt. You're my
Speaker 1: bar You ever chi Man. I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: they shouldn't up. I think there's gonna be they have
Speaker 1: enough needs that they're good where they're at. If anything,
Speaker 1: trade back and maybe get some more picks. But from
Speaker 1: what everything we've heard about this coaching staff is they're
Speaker 1: not going to try to jam people into schemes and
Speaker 1: they're not going to try to make people play different
Speaker 1: than what they're good at. It sounds like this coaching
Speaker 1: staff is going to evaluate the talent, say you're good
Speaker 1: at this, so we want you to do this. We'll
Speaker 1: find somebody else to do this in this scheme, or
Speaker 1: change the scheme to fit the personnel. So I think
Speaker 1: this may be one of the first drafts that we've
Speaker 1: had in a long time where you don't miss on
Speaker 1: a T. J. Watt because he doesn't fit what we're
Speaker 1: trying to do. He's talented as hell and he's probably
Speaker 1: the most athletic person, but we're going to pass on
Speaker 1: him because he doesn't fit this. I think I think
Speaker 1: this coaching staff, with all they've said, they're gonna draft
Speaker 1: the most talented guy now. I think they're probably going
Speaker 1: to go into this thinking we need to go defense
Speaker 1: um and if a really talented offensive guy. Hell, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if if you've got one of these
Speaker 1: receivers everybody's talking about that's there, they may go that way.
Speaker 1: I just think this might be the first draft in
Speaker 1: a long time where you're you're actually getting the most
Speaker 1: talented athletic guy that's left on the board. So I
Speaker 1: think you, I think you sit where you're at, you
Speaker 1: see what falls to you. You get in the in
Speaker 1: the virtual room, I guess with the coaches and the
Speaker 1: ownership and Will and Stephen and Jerry and you say,
Speaker 1: you know, we really need to go this way. But
Speaker 1: this is a guy that we could use, and this
Speaker 1: is how we could use him, and he's definitely the
Speaker 1: most talented. So I'm very interested in this draft for
Speaker 1: that reason alone. You know, the thing that you don't
Speaker 1: like about in this draft is that we have a
Speaker 1: new coaching staff and assistant are new, that the some
Speaker 1: of the systems are new offensively, all of the system
Speaker 1: is new defensively, because they're gonna be asking these guys
Speaker 1: to be more athletic, to be able to think above
Speaker 1: their shoulders a little bit more. They're gonna scheme a
Speaker 1: little bit more you know that it's coming. You know it.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be single high safety and here we set
Speaker 1: it's gonna be some different looks, some different ways. Techniques
Speaker 1: are got to be taught. H that that maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit more different than what the vast coaching staff wanted. So, uh,
Speaker 1: this is exciting time, and I know it's a scary
Speaker 1: time for the for the mister Jones and his crew
Speaker 1: because you just you know you can. You can interview
Speaker 1: all day, but until you put this thing into effect,
Speaker 1: you just don't know. And with draft picks, uh, you
Speaker 1: gotta allow Will McClay to say, Okay, coach, I see
Speaker 1: what you're like, I see what you want. You gotta
Speaker 1: let Will McClay go out there and really earn his check,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, because it'll be more about what him
Speaker 1: and his scouts say or see then, more so than
Speaker 1: the coaches, because they ain't been able to get out
Speaker 1: there at all. Film is all they've been able to watch. Well,
Speaker 1: let's take our first break, fellas. Let's uh, when we
Speaker 1: come back, let's get into we'll do a little more
Speaker 1: draft talk. Dak Prescott's name has come up yet again
Speaker 1: in the news about not participating in virtual workouts. I
Speaker 1: talked to General McCoy over the weekend also to talk
Speaker 1: to Justin March that that interview hasn't come out yet.
Speaker 1: And then a really good mail bag question came through.
Speaker 1: Who on the team has the potential to break out
Speaker 1: the most under this coaching staff. I think that's a
Speaker 1: real interesting question because I can think of about three
Speaker 1: or four guys off the top of my head that
Speaker 1: I think may really benefit from a fresh start with
Speaker 1: this coaching staff. And I want to get y'all y'all's
Speaker 1: feedback on who you think could could be have a
Speaker 1: huge breakout you're under this new coaching staff. So we'll
Speaker 1: take a take a couple of minutes break will we
Speaker 1: come back. We'll get to all of that and more,
Speaker 1: and we'll let Jesse talk in the next segment on
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Speaker 1: anything to do Thursday night, check it out. You can
Speaker 1: see it on all of our social channels. I think
Speaker 1: the first thirty minutes of it will be broadcast on
Speaker 1: our social channels and then you can catch it on
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com for the duration of the draft.
Speaker 1: So check it out. It's gonna be really good. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be very cool. You know, I wonder if this
Speaker 1: is something they'll keep doing going forward, even if things
Speaker 1: kind of return to normal, because it's it's got potential
Speaker 1: to be great. It's gonna be amazing. Yeah look and yeah,
Speaker 1: me too. And I know kind of the behind the
Speaker 1: scenes stuff that's going on, the kind of the way
Speaker 1: that this is gonna work. But Jesse and Eate I
Speaker 1: kind of want to get Jesse will start with you.
Speaker 1: Kind of want to get y'all's feedback. What do you
Speaker 1: we know, how we normally watch the draft with everything
Speaker 1: being virtual and you're you're not getting the red carpet
Speaker 1: and you're not getting all the players in the green
Speaker 1: room and all that stuff. What are you expecting from
Speaker 1: kind of I guess a fan point of view from
Speaker 1: the draft this year because they still have fascin interest,
Speaker 1: they want to do thirty two different fan bases across
Speaker 1: the country that is still want to be locked in
Speaker 1: because they're waiting to see all right yeah and then
Speaker 1: and then on top of that would have been thirty
Speaker 1: two teams uh being represented in their fans. You know, Uh,
Speaker 1: this will be more video than we've ever seen my fellas.
Speaker 1: Uh when that when the first pick of the draft,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrows. They're probably shoot a video cam of of
Speaker 1: his home and maybe what he's doing with his family
Speaker 1: or his ten members mess in his house. But then
Speaker 1: it'll be a barrage of highlights of Joe Burrows winning
Speaker 1: the National championship and so on and so forth. So
Speaker 1: uh that it's it's gonna be unique. But you know,
Speaker 1: the NFL would not let you down with with a
Speaker 1: lot of with with a lot of things that they do. Kurt,
Speaker 1: what kind of interesting kind of a work type deal.
Speaker 1: What what are you going to be doing on the
Speaker 1: draft or do you have anything to do with any
Speaker 1: part of I don't have any you just kind of
Speaker 1: as a fan, right, most of our work's already done.
Speaker 1: I mean, if Nick needs, if the web guys need
Speaker 1: some help, I'll definitely jump in. But they're they're so
Speaker 1: good at what they do. I'm not sure they will
Speaker 1: need to help. But I'm kind of interested in. You know,
Speaker 1: some of the stuff I've been reading is these mock
Speaker 1: drafts just maybe totally off. I Mean there's this theory
Speaker 1: that you get all these scouts together at these pro
Speaker 1: days and they sort of formed this group think about
Speaker 1: you know, this this players. You know, these are the
Speaker 1: how the players are ranked. This players better than that one.
Speaker 1: We don't really have that interaction this year. It's everything
Speaker 1: so separate. There weren't any pro days, and some people
Speaker 1: are kind of believing that you're not gonna have this
Speaker 1: group think. So you may see some real changes of
Speaker 1: what the experts, the so called experts, the way they
Speaker 1: think these mock drafts are gonna fall. It may be
Speaker 1: quite a bit different. I think that's gonna be kind
Speaker 1: of an interesting aspect to this year's draft that you
Speaker 1: don't have in previous ones. Because if you go to
Speaker 1: NFL dot com, Shannon, Kurt and Jesse, they have four
Speaker 1: they have eight guys that they consistently think a first
Speaker 1: round picks. Then they have another one, two, three, four
Speaker 1: or five six guys that they're saying first a second
Speaker 1: round picks. So virtue, these guys will be high first
Speaker 1: round picks, I mean low first round picks, high second
Speaker 1: round picks. So a lot of guys, I'm with you, Kurt,
Speaker 1: A lot of these times, a lot of these guys
Speaker 1: are out on their own for the first time, asked
Speaker 1: experts because they're not gathering and they're not forming they're
Speaker 1: not getting together saying, Okay, what a you got on
Speaker 1: your board? What are you guys looking like? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: What you think about this guy? So? Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we we like the Xavier kid from Bama. But as
Speaker 1: I look on this things, no, there's nowhere on him
Speaker 1: where he's a Day one pick for us. What NFL
Speaker 1: dot Com saying there's just one of many outlets that
Speaker 1: has a view of a player. That's a great theory, Kurt,
Speaker 1: because if you think about it, a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the media that do these
Speaker 1: mock drafts, they have you know, they're people they talk to,
Speaker 1: they have people that are in the building, they have
Speaker 1: people they form relationships with over the years. Well, those
Speaker 1: people hear a lot of watercool are taught, you know,
Speaker 1: and whether they're in the scouting department or whether they're
Speaker 1: in the front office or whatever. You you know, you
Speaker 1: you walk by your buddy that's in your scouting department
Speaker 1: and you hear him having a conversation about a guy,
Speaker 1: and it turns you on to that guy and you're like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check him out and I'm gonna go watch
Speaker 1: some film or I'm gonna and then you kind of
Speaker 1: you keep hearing the same names over and over, and
Speaker 1: that winds up kind of you know, if you're a source,
Speaker 1: then you wind up telling that to your guy. Well,
Speaker 1: like you said, you don't have those conversations because you're
Speaker 1: not in the same building. Everything you hear is in
Speaker 1: a formal, I guess kind of virtual meeting setting, so
Speaker 1: you're not having a lot of these casual conversations about
Speaker 1: this guy and this guy. So, yeah, everything you pro days,
Speaker 1: right when these scouts are at these pro days across
Speaker 1: the country, there is these you know, almost these locker
Speaker 1: room talks or you're in the same airport as another
Speaker 1: scout or another gym or so on and something like that.
Speaker 1: So you have these casual conversations and Jason garigs to
Speaker 1: say over a couple eliminades and that kind of you know,
Speaker 1: that kind of almost tips to hand sometimes what teams
Speaker 1: are looking for, what teams are maybe going, and so
Speaker 1: you got a better understanding. So with all that being eliminated,
Speaker 1: you know, to church point, you absolutely have a different
Speaker 1: all around perspective of what may be happening, who may
Speaker 1: be going where, who may be picking up because these
Speaker 1: guys are just like us. We're all so questioned in
Speaker 1: our homes and you don't have those because you can
Speaker 1: get a feel for a guy. You know, you've you've
Speaker 1: all set with guys and had conversation with guys he
Speaker 1: by oh he's lying, or you're knowing a guy long
Speaker 1: enough to know that when he's telling the truth or
Speaker 1: when he's not telling the truth. So, you know, not
Speaker 1: having that face to face interaction, whether it be at
Speaker 1: someone's pro day and an airport, at a bar, at
Speaker 1: a restaurant somewhere somehow throughout all these travels, these scouts
Speaker 1: and gms, they just they just don't have that face
Speaker 1: to face interaction anymore. So even even the reporters, the
Speaker 1: insiders who are at these pro days, uh and at
Speaker 1: these same bars in these same hotels, they don't have
Speaker 1: that access either. So there's probably gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of hitting misses when it comes to what are the
Speaker 1: you know, what are the scouts saying opposed to what
Speaker 1: are the quote unquote experts saying, or what are the
Speaker 1: team actually pick. So it's gonna be an interesting, interesting
Speaker 1: um Thursday Friday, especially those first two rounds because we're
Speaker 1: all gonna be tuned in. You got thirty two teams,
Speaker 1: thirty two fan bases invested, and what this drive is
Speaker 1: is gonna do And we're all looking for for something.
Speaker 1: We're looking for something new and refreshing. When in terms
Speaker 1: of sports, you know, of course we all watched last
Speaker 1: night the documentary of the Bulls, so we're all gonna
Speaker 1: be tuned in for the NFL drift in the NFL
Speaker 1: is king in America. You know when when when when
Speaker 1: when you look at this, when you look at this
Speaker 1: like you keep seeing me to turn my head and
Speaker 1: and you know, and I named out possible first round
Speaker 1: picks defensively, and I'm you know, you name out possible
Speaker 1: first round picks offensively. And uh, for the first time
Speaker 1: by by us um being in this virtual world. Uh,
Speaker 1: you don't have a top ten set of guys are
Speaker 1: top five, you know, you know, the only person we
Speaker 1: know is Chase Young and in the burrows after that,
Speaker 1: we don't know. I mean, even tour name has been
Speaker 1: tossed around. It's for is getting down to possible six
Speaker 1: pick San Diego and guys like that. So for the
Speaker 1: first time, you can't just lock in and say, hey,
Speaker 1: this is this is how it's gonna go for at
Speaker 1: least the first two or three picks. You just don't
Speaker 1: know this year. Yep, all right, that's enough for draft talk.
Speaker 1: I want to get into Let's finish this show stronger
Speaker 1: than we ever have. We need to talk about Jack Prescott,
Speaker 1: we need to talk about Gerald McCoy, we need to
Speaker 1: talk about that awesome mail, bad question. Let's do all that.
Speaker 1: Let's take our break now that way the last twenty
Speaker 1: minutes of this show. We can just bring it. You
Speaker 1: guys with me, We bring it at this last segment.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Yeah, Justice's back. Okay, then we'll bring it.
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Speaker 1: got a quick question. Can I ask a quick question
Speaker 1: derail things? Yeah? Absolutely, so, Hey, Jesse, so you've had
Speaker 1: the Cowboys gear behind you and you've had Carolina gear
Speaker 1: behind you. What's that behind you today? Now? So fourth
Speaker 1: and long gear right there? Those are the old right
Speaker 1: there from when we were Yeah, that's my fourth and
Speaker 1: long jerseys right there. It's a little fourth and long
Speaker 1: poster up there. These are this was the this was
Speaker 1: the we had a game. This a black helmet was
Speaker 1: a game where everyone that got eliminated got brought back
Speaker 1: for this one game and if they outplayed you, they
Speaker 1: were gonna get your spot. Um and you know, if
Speaker 1: they didn't now play you, they got back on the
Speaker 1: bus and went home. And this was our kind of
Speaker 1: every day uh you know, every game type helmet right
Speaker 1: here though, the old helmet. So this was the exces
Speaker 1: verse the olds and I wore number eighty three during
Speaker 1: that time. That's the number that they gave me. Uh so, yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's the that's the good old fourth and long
Speaker 1: uniform back there. Long or a high school thing or what? No,
Speaker 1: that's fourth and long right there. Good deal? All right, Kurt,
Speaker 1: where do you want to go? We got Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: we got Gerald McCoy and we got the mail back question. Well,
Speaker 1: I did want to get your feelings on the latest
Speaker 1: news on Dak. Seems like every week we have something
Speaker 1: news Dak. But you know, it's kind of come out
Speaker 1: that he's not going to participate in any of these
Speaker 1: virtual offseason meetings or anything like that. I guess if
Speaker 1: there were OTAs or something, maybe he wouldn't be involved
Speaker 1: in that. I know he's trying to gain leverage for
Speaker 1: his h you know, to work out a long term contract.
Speaker 1: But I gotta wonder, is this is this hurting him
Speaker 1: more than it's helping him. What do you guys think
Speaker 1: If it hurts Dak and hurts the team, that's this
Speaker 1: bottom life. It hurts Dak and hurts everything offense, and
Speaker 1: it hurts everything defense because right now you need Dak
Speaker 1: in there because into it. You know, we talked about
Speaker 1: a lot in the first few minutes of the show
Speaker 1: about defense, defense, defense. Well, if he was at least
Speaker 1: there doing the virtual things, trying to gather all he
Speaker 1: can gather and and have his little one on ones
Speaker 1: with the coaches over the phone or whatever, he can
Speaker 1: at least be even with everybody because they're gonna need ever, ever,
Speaker 1: every man they can get. But he already has leverage,
Speaker 1: So I guess it's I guess you can get more leverage.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know I would, but just from
Speaker 1: a team Steele point, if he's not gonna be ready,
Speaker 1: if he's not doing you know, the system or whatever,
Speaker 1: and they franchise him from one more years as they
Speaker 1: lose leverage because he may not be as prepared, or
Speaker 1: like you said, it may hurt the team. I mean
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't know. I just wonder if it's
Speaker 1: hurting him this that this cannot bowl. Well, you fired
Speaker 1: your coach, brought in a coach that you thought said okay,
Speaker 1: we need to we can't go backwards, we have to
Speaker 1: do this today. And you did that with your quarterback
Speaker 1: in mind. So if it hurts Dak, I mean who
Speaker 1: signed who got him? Signed a deal for thirty million
Speaker 1: and then okay, if you franchise the next year, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be about thirty nine million. So who is it hurting.
Speaker 1: It's hurting the players that's a part of that team.
Speaker 1: It's hurting the fans. I mean, you you cannot let
Speaker 1: this linger if it's about trying to show the fans
Speaker 1: that you're trying to win. Now, I don't and I
Speaker 1: don't get into the negotiation that between mister Jones and that.
Speaker 1: But if that's not there, who's your next option? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Its it bothers me a little bit or a lot
Speaker 1: because I think this season more than any other season,
Speaker 1: the way things are going, and everything's gonna be virtual,
Speaker 1: like you're not getting to spend that time on the
Speaker 1: field with your guys, So you need every opportunity, whether
Speaker 1: it's meetings, whether it's interaction with coaches, what through virtual interviews,
Speaker 1: interaction with players through virtual interviews, like, you need every
Speaker 1: You need to be around this team and this coaching
Speaker 1: staff as much as you possibly can because everything's new.
Speaker 1: You don't know anything, and everybody is already gonna be
Speaker 1: a little bit behind the curve this season because of
Speaker 1: not being able to be in the facility, not being
Speaker 1: able to have then pay them man his mon need
Speaker 1: if you want him there, pay the man his money need.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. This hurts no one but the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: And here's why. Because if he decides to sign his
Speaker 1: franchise tenure right thirty three million dollars and this season
Speaker 1: doesn't go as well as planned. Once you become a
Speaker 1: starting quarterback in the National Football League, Dak will have
Speaker 1: the opportunity even if they franchise him again next year
Speaker 1: for almost forty million dollars. So that's two years for
Speaker 1: seventy million dollars. Seventy something million dollars on a guy.
Speaker 1: If you decide to let him walk, this is gonna happen.
Speaker 1: He's gonna go somewhere else in the National Football League
Speaker 1: and sign a long term deal. And now that puts
Speaker 1: you back and rebuilding mode, because now you have to
Speaker 1: go back on the market and find another quarterback. Look
Speaker 1: at the quarterbacks in the last thirty years that's been
Speaker 1: drafted in the first round. Only a small percentage of
Speaker 1: them have actually been drafted in the first round and
Speaker 1: had a long term success in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: Finding a quarterback is one of the most essential pieces
Speaker 1: and building a team in the in the NFL, you
Speaker 1: have one. You have one right here. And the longer
Speaker 1: you prolong this thing and the longer you go into
Speaker 1: this thing, the more he's gonna be away from this
Speaker 1: team and not doing virtual workouts. I don't blame him
Speaker 1: for not doing virtual workouts. He's done everything you've asked
Speaker 1: him to do up to this point. Now he's asking
Speaker 1: you to do what you're supposed to do, and he
Speaker 1: signed me to a long term deal that I see
Speaker 1: fits what I want to do. And if you don't,
Speaker 1: then you find yourself in this situation where you're going
Speaker 1: to have to look for a new quarterback. He's going
Speaker 1: to have an opportunity in the league again to start
Speaker 1: four a team. I just I know that for a fact.
Speaker 1: Teams are gonna look at do I go draft a
Speaker 1: guy out of college in the year or two who
Speaker 1: I don't know, Or do I take a guy who
Speaker 1: has four or five six years of experience, who had
Speaker 1: a bad situation in Dallas, who we think can be
Speaker 1: a starter for us, so he'll get an opportunity again
Speaker 1: to start in this league. The Cowboys have to worry
Speaker 1: about if we go and then they won't be They
Speaker 1: won't be bad enough. The Cowboys in the next two
Speaker 1: years won't be bad enough to get themselves in a
Speaker 1: position to go and get a guy like Lawrence or
Speaker 1: someone else in the draft that may come up. They
Speaker 1: won't be that bad. They'll be somewhere where they're at
Speaker 1: right now, and most of the time those type of
Speaker 1: quarterbacks don't get to seventeen. You lucked up with getting
Speaker 1: the guy in the fourth round in dak Prescott. And
Speaker 1: if you look over your history from the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: they don't have a great history of quarterbacking. Yes, you
Speaker 1: have Roger, you have Troy, and then after Troy, you
Speaker 1: went through a long list of failures at the quarterback position,
Speaker 1: and you lucked up on a guy in Tony Romo
Speaker 1: who you got undrafted, and then you lucked up again
Speaker 1: on a guy in the fourth round. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they haven't. I don't know if Jerry's manufacturing full
Speaker 1: leaf clovers, but I doubt you're able to get that
Speaker 1: lucky again to find a guy who could come in
Speaker 1: and be a starter that you got in the fourth round.
Speaker 1: And as bad as you may have thought, Kirk Cousins was,
Speaker 1: Washington is in that cycle right now. Yeah, the Redskins
Speaker 1: in that cycle just good enough, are just bad enough
Speaker 1: to be picking way down low. And now you got
Speaker 1: a chance to pick in the second round. And you
Speaker 1: got a kid last year in the first round. But
Speaker 1: maybe the seventeen eighteen or twentieth thick. You don't like
Speaker 1: this kid, you're letting him come up for discussion. Now
Speaker 1: you're talking about being you won't chase Yon. But you see,
Speaker 1: I have to give consideration to a tour that you
Speaker 1: don't want to be there. You don't want to be there,
Speaker 1: and so I Kirk to me. Kirk Cousins a perfect example.
Speaker 1: The red Skins didn't warn him. He had a social
Speaker 1: year with Minnesota last year or so ago. Last year
Speaker 1: they found a groove with this kid, and so they
Speaker 1: went into the second round. Quarterback is the central I
Speaker 1: wish you just essential to what you're trying to do
Speaker 1: and how you trying to have longevity as a winning program.
Speaker 1: Don't you guys think too? If I mean you, you
Speaker 1: groomed at now for several years, and you kind of
Speaker 1: the last year or two you you've painted yourself into
Speaker 1: a corner by saying he's our guy, he's our guy,
Speaker 1: We're going forward, he's our guy. We're building this team
Speaker 1: around him. If you don't sign him to a long
Speaker 1: term deal, isn't that kind of just wasting the last
Speaker 1: five to six years of this of the talent on
Speaker 1: this team because you you've been saying for the last
Speaker 1: two to three years, he's our guy. We're going forward
Speaker 1: with this guy. Now, all of a sudden, if you
Speaker 1: let him go, that's kind of you've just kind of
Speaker 1: thrown out the window what your long term plan is, right,
Speaker 1: I know what brother gang or add none. The takeaway man,
Speaker 1: this is either this is either make a break for
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and how they're gonna handle this situation
Speaker 1: because you're bringing another quarterback and this guy's gonna have
Speaker 1: to be lead. And even though there's a lot of
Speaker 1: quarterbacks when this started that was out up free, older
Speaker 1: guys and young it was nobody that you can say, hey,
Speaker 1: he's that much better than than than that. So, like
Speaker 1: I said, I don't get into negotiations. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's holding the good negotiations up, whether it's years or
Speaker 1: whether it's money per year or guarantees. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's holding the virtual I can name a couple of
Speaker 1: teams we'll be looking for a quarterback. If they decided
Speaker 1: the franchise back for two years straight after this, after
Speaker 1: his two years up hanging dollar, they don't give him
Speaker 1: a long term deal, you got you gotta suspect Bruce's
Speaker 1: areas in Tampa Bay will be looking for a quarterback
Speaker 1: in two years when Tom Brady retires. The New Orleans
Speaker 1: Saints with Sean Payton, we'll be looking for a quarterback
Speaker 1: in two years. Um if, if, if, when when Drew
Speaker 1: Brees retires, I'm pretty sure that a team like the
Speaker 1: coach will be looking for a quarterback in two years
Speaker 1: after Philip Rivers retires or they move on without him.
Speaker 1: There are a couple of teams. San Diego might be
Speaker 1: still looking for a quarterback in two years. If things
Speaker 1: don't work out, There'll be Pittsburgh. We'll probably looking for
Speaker 1: a quarterback in two years if things don't work out.
Speaker 1: Been rather Burley inside to retire. There are a lot
Speaker 1: of teams, good football teams who will be looking for
Speaker 1: a young, starting caliber quarterback in two years. If the
Speaker 1: Cowboys can't get him locked up, don't don't, don't think
Speaker 1: for one second that these other teams won't throw him
Speaker 1: a boatload of cash and see if he'll see if
Speaker 1: he'll leave Dallas. So if he won't, let's move on.
Speaker 1: We got a few minutes left in the show. We'll go.
Speaker 1: We'll go a little bit over since we didn't get
Speaker 1: started to a little bit late. Two things I want
Speaker 1: to get to. One. I was able to talk to
Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy over the weekend and one thing that really
Speaker 1: stood out to me that he said, And Nate, I
Speaker 1: can't wait to get your opinion on this, because you've
Speaker 1: been you've been screaming for a big, fat, greasy guy
Speaker 1: in the middle that you want, and it sounds like
Speaker 1: we got him. Sounds like we got a couple of them.
Speaker 1: But one thing that stood out to me when I
Speaker 1: talked to Gerald was he's lost twenty pounds in the
Speaker 1: offseason and he said he feels better, His knees feel
Speaker 1: a lot better, he feels healthy, and he wants to
Speaker 1: try to elongate his career. He's talked to some people
Speaker 1: in the past and he thinks he can do that
Speaker 1: by coming in a little bit lighter. Now. That kind
Speaker 1: of goes against why, I guess, Nate, why you wanted
Speaker 1: a big run stopper is twenty pounds on a guy
Speaker 1: that clogs up the middle. That does that worry you
Speaker 1: a little bit that he's coming in and he's wanting
Speaker 1: to slim up a little bit, or is that gonna
Speaker 1: make it better? Because he's gonna be able to be
Speaker 1: more athletic and agile. Jerald McCord is a three technique,
Speaker 1: so he'll be playing with Malie Collins, play that over
Speaker 1: either guard. So, uh, that that's good, that's great. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's savvy, he plays hard. That that that is my deal.
Speaker 1: He's smart and he plays hard. He's a veteran type guy.
Speaker 1: We got him here for a year or so as
Speaker 1: a stop gap until they can sign something better or
Speaker 1: draft something that is worthy. To show Tristan Hill what
Speaker 1: he what a three technique should look like an act
Speaker 1: as a professional. You got done, Terrio Poe. Man, that's
Speaker 1: a poke eaton man. That's a beef eat man. That's
Speaker 1: a sour eaton man. So I ain't worried about that.
Speaker 1: The one technique is taken care of. Me and that man,
Speaker 1: we are already. I got some things go to corral.
Speaker 1: Here we come, Me and don Terrio Poe. I guess
Speaker 1: was my question too, Say, you know McCoy's not really
Speaker 1: that stop Yeah, beef in the middle. You want him
Speaker 1: pushing up field, rushing. Yeah, he's a three technique man,
Speaker 1: and if he can bend that edge, that gives that
Speaker 1: especially when he's playing right next to Lawrence. When when
Speaker 1: you got to when you just can't turn protection to
Speaker 1: a guy like Lawrence and let him deal with things
Speaker 1: one on one because you have a Gerald mccour that's
Speaker 1: getting up that field. That is what made the previous
Speaker 1: coaching staff successful when they was in their heyday with
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, was they was making things having Warren Sap.
Speaker 1: We never got Warren Sap that Jerald McCoury is not
Speaker 1: Warren Soap, but he has some of those same tendencies,
Speaker 1: and maybe he's savvy enough and we can keep him
Speaker 1: freshen up during the game and he can affect end
Speaker 1: of games. What else you take from that challenge? You
Speaker 1: sound like you had a good conversation with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: real energetic guy. He kind of just talking to him.
Speaker 1: He reminded me of of of a defensive Nate Newton
Speaker 1: back in the day. He said that he takes football
Speaker 1: and his craft very very very very very seriously, and
Speaker 1: he's dedicated, but he still likes to have fun. And
Speaker 1: he kind of alluded to you know, fans in the
Speaker 1: past have sometimes gotten frustrated with him because, um, he
Speaker 1: in football is football and he takes it very serious,
Speaker 1: but he also likes to you know, enjoy himself and
Speaker 1: have fun and you know, have a personality and you know,
Speaker 1: but he was basically saying, don't get it twisted. Just
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm cutting up and having fun and joking
Speaker 1: around doesn't mean that I don't take the game serious
Speaker 1: and that you know, I'm I'm putting in the work,
Speaker 1: I'm doing all of this. So that was one thing
Speaker 1: that kind of stood out. And another thing that stood
Speaker 1: out he basically echoed what we've heard about this coaching staff.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna ask him to try to fit into
Speaker 1: a system. They're gonna ask They're gonna ask him to
Speaker 1: do what he does the best, and that's get up
Speaker 1: the field and be who he is and not try
Speaker 1: to make him fit into a you know, slote him
Speaker 1: into something that he's not. So that was that was
Speaker 1: encouraging because not now not only heard that from the
Speaker 1: coaching staff, but we've also heard it from from players.
Speaker 1: So I think that was that, you know, those were
Speaker 1: the kind of the big things that that I took
Speaker 1: out of it. He said that he's been talking to Tank,
Speaker 1: that he's had a relationship with him from a previous
Speaker 1: pro bowl Um and that you know him and Tank
Speaker 1: have talked a lot since he's been on the team.
Speaker 1: Um said, he's basically hasn't been to Dallas yet. He
Speaker 1: hasn't left Tampa, Um, but he's talked to the coaching
Speaker 1: staff I think once through virtual meetings. UM. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of real encouraging things. I was impressed. He's
Speaker 1: a real personable guy. UM got five kids helping them
Speaker 1: home school during the day right now. So yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 1: But to see what he can do, Man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you something. We we we have to believe that
Speaker 1: this coaching staffing that mister Jones, especially defensively and special teams.
Speaker 1: You you literally saying, hey, man, we believe that y'all
Speaker 1: got the right guys. That that's gonna that You're gonna
Speaker 1: take these guys and fit them into your scheme or
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys to play within your scheme
Speaker 1: and flourish because, like Jesse said earlier, by this thing
Speaker 1: being virtual, by offenses being a tick slore and getting
Speaker 1: into a groove and building a unity and being on
Speaker 1: the same page, and with Dak's sitting out of all
Speaker 1: these virtual things, which I don't really don't believe that.
Speaker 1: I really don't believe. So here we go. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't believe Dak's sitting out. Dad's too smart for that.
Speaker 1: He he made out uh be on them when everybody
Speaker 1: else on there but Dak gonna look at that thing here.
Speaker 1: I just believe that in him. All right. The last
Speaker 1: question before before we get out of here, this was
Speaker 1: a male bad question this week. Uh start with you, Jesse,
Speaker 1: who do you think he might even pick a couple
Speaker 1: of guys, two or three guys, one guy, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to do. Who do you think has the potential
Speaker 1: with this new coaching staff to to have a breakout
Speaker 1: season the show. The first thing that comes to my
Speaker 1: mind tight end te one Blake Jarwin. He finally gets
Speaker 1: his opportunity to be te one, doesn't have to look
Speaker 1: over his shoulder, doesn't have to worry about the gold
Speaker 1: jacket Hall of Famer stealing any of his reps, or
Speaker 1: not being able to get the full potential of of
Speaker 1: practices and games. I think now he has an opportunity
Speaker 1: to everything is on him. He gets he gets the
Speaker 1: number one choice. Think about this. Jason Witten had sixty
Speaker 1: plus catches last year. Think about it. If you give
Speaker 1: a guy who's a little bit more athletic, a literally
Speaker 1: a lot and younger who has a little bit more
Speaker 1: horsepower in juice in his motor than Jason Wittens. If
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin gets sixty five catches this year, I think
Speaker 1: this is a guy. Sixty five catches for a guy
Speaker 1: like Blake Jarwin who has a ton of athleticism. When
Speaker 1: you see him play, how he break tackles, how he
Speaker 1: can go up and compete, catch the ball at a
Speaker 1: high point in indoor contact, and can run. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's running Davis in his prime, but he can run.
Speaker 1: He can take those eight yard hitch routes, break a
Speaker 1: tackle and turn them to twenty twenty five thirty yards.
Speaker 1: I think he is going to have an opportunity even
Speaker 1: if he gets If he dohing gets sixty, if he
Speaker 1: gets forty of those, I mean this is a guy
Speaker 1: who can have anywhere from six seven eight hundred yards
Speaker 1: and a boatload of touchdowns, especially in the red zone.
Speaker 1: He has a chance and I think he will to
Speaker 1: break out this year. He got a little money in
Speaker 1: his pocket now, not not worried about all those different things.
Speaker 1: When my next dollar gonna come from. He's kind of
Speaker 1: set te one is his deal. He gets all the
Speaker 1: first shots. Blake Jarwin is my breakout player for this year. Kurt,
Speaker 1: who's your guy? Well, I'll take I guess maybe it's
Speaker 1: just the low hanging fruit, But you hope maybe a
Speaker 1: guy like Lewis will get a chance. Now. I think
Speaker 1: in some ways he was overlooked by the previous coaches,
Speaker 1: some just because of his size. I mean what, he's
Speaker 1: five ten five of them, maybe the most, and they
Speaker 1: wanted to you know, they want a big, tall, rangy
Speaker 1: corners and not just he didn't fit the bill physically,
Speaker 1: but he kept coming out big. You know, he seemed
Speaker 1: to make the big plays when we needed him. He
Speaker 1: had some turnovers. Maybe this uh regime coaching regime will
Speaker 1: kind of overlooked the physical aspects of it and just
Speaker 1: can flat out to see what he does on the field.
Speaker 1: This might be his opportunity to really step up, especially
Speaker 1: now you know they they're weak in the secondary. They
Speaker 1: need some help. Maybe this is a guy that'll get
Speaker 1: a chance to prove himself and really get a chance
Speaker 1: to step up and contribute even more. Nate's here we
Speaker 1: go back, here we go zegis back Gay your quarterback
Speaker 1: and at the virtual means, but Zeke is there, baby.
Speaker 1: So who you gonna lean on? Hey, who you gonna
Speaker 1: lean on? Who You're gonna get that ball to in
Speaker 1: the passing game? Who you gonna get that ball to
Speaker 1: in the running game? Hagel Zeke slash Tony Pollard? Look
Speaker 1: five running backs to come alive and be positive? Not
Speaker 1: alive and situational, but alive and positive. You hit me shinning?
Speaker 1: Do you hear me? I hear you? And you know what?
Speaker 1: You know what's funny? I had I have four guys,
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin, Jordan Lewis, and I was gonna say Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard was gonna be my other one because I think
Speaker 1: this coaching staff is gonna find a way to get
Speaker 1: him more involved in the offense. I think he's a
Speaker 1: weapon that they hadn't even scratched the surface on. And
Speaker 1: we heard when he came in as a rookie, before
Speaker 1: he even stepped foot on the field, the guys were
Speaker 1: talking about how fast he got to the next level,
Speaker 1: how quick he was. The defensive guys were really impressed
Speaker 1: with him, and I don't think they've even touched his
Speaker 1: potential yet, so I think he's a big one. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with kind of an old dog, and
Speaker 1: I'm probably it's probably because I personally want the man
Speaker 1: to do good. But I think I think Tyrone Crawford
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna say him and the reason why
Speaker 1: he's had a full off season and half a season
Speaker 1: to to to have surgeries and get things right. I
Speaker 1: know he's he's getting up there for a for a
Speaker 1: you know, a football player in age, and he's coming
Speaker 1: off double hip surgery and some other things. Titanium, baby, titanium. Still,
Speaker 1: if he can get through that, I think I think
Speaker 1: they I think since the time he got here, with
Speaker 1: the exception of his rookie year and maybe his second year,
Speaker 1: they have tried to put him in positions that they
Speaker 1: needed him to feel and not let him be the
Speaker 1: player that he is. And I think with this new
Speaker 1: coaching staff and everything we've heard is they're gonna they're gonna.
Speaker 1: This resets the board with Jorge lewis a reset that's
Speaker 1: the board. For whatever reason, he couldn't get on the
Speaker 1: field with the old coaching staff if we all thought
Speaker 1: he should be um, I think this reset. This is
Speaker 1: gonna reset a lot of guys. They're gonna come in
Speaker 1: this coaching staff with you know, no you know, no
Speaker 1: preconceived notions. They're gonna look at the film, they're gonna
Speaker 1: look at the player, and they're gonna go, you should
Speaker 1: be playing, and here's how you should be playing. I
Speaker 1: hope what they do with Tyrone is, Hey, this is
Speaker 1: the kind of guy you are. This is how we're
Speaker 1: gonna use you. We're not gonna try to make you
Speaker 1: play here or here because we don't have another guy
Speaker 1: to fill that position. We're gonna let you play to
Speaker 1: your strengts. So that's I agree with everything every one
Speaker 1: of you guys said. And then I'm gonna throw an
Speaker 1: extra guy in there and say Tyrone Crawford. So that's
Speaker 1: my that's my course. Zeke Man, Yeah, I think I know.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell y'all. I'm gonna tell y'all some man. Y'all, y'all,
Speaker 1: you know what, man, I'm gonna knock on your dope
Speaker 1: one day and you're gonna come back there. Thing is
Speaker 1: a FedEx fass gonna be Nate Newton. I'm zee. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, man, this is what's gonna make this team
Speaker 1: go man. Zeke baby makes the team. Girl. Zeke has
Speaker 1: been the team. Zeke has handed he more carries and
Speaker 1: who knows who man last year, you don't need more
Speaker 1: pol I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: It is not that he's gonna get more carried. It's
Speaker 1: this coach gonna know how to use him. Whenever a
Speaker 1: coach of this nature like coach McCarthy, you say, the
Speaker 1: coach that just wanted to pass Super Bowl, even a
Speaker 1: coach with the fournite when they have an elite running
Speaker 1: back slash with a guy like Tony Poller, this thing
Speaker 1: is gonna be unreal, especially with Dak maybe said possibly
Speaker 1: not there are under the virtual deal where he's not
Speaker 1: being a part of this Who who are you gonna
Speaker 1: lean on? Who you gonna lean on? I'm telling you now,
Speaker 1: you guys better get on board and sign up. Man
Speaker 1: I Robot, I want you to have a Zeke thing
Speaker 1: next time you come, have a little package together. Thank
Speaker 1: you all. Well, we got the draft on Thursday, Tune
Speaker 1: in seven o'clock. Jamie foxx DeMarcus Ware will be hosting.
Speaker 1: Cannot wait to get back on the air on Monday
Speaker 1: to see what all draft picks we got and talk
Speaker 1: about and grade the draft. Nate, thank you for bringing
Speaker 1: it as always, Jesse, thanks for I gotta get a
Speaker 1: shot out. I gotta give a birthday shout out to
Speaker 1: my guy Mike peter Don. Hit me up on Twitter
Speaker 1: his birthday. Happy birthday, Mike peter Don. This is I'm
Speaker 1: Kenna Zeke. He is I'm Kenna Zeke. No Kurt, glad
Speaker 1: to hear everything out and doing good. Kurt, you hate Zeke?
Speaker 1: You hate Zeke? Kurtte Zeke that I robot Kid. Thank
Speaker 1: you for keeping us on the air. Thanks for chipping
Speaker 1: in and hell thanks Matt get to get that get
Speaker 1: that montage together for Zeke you. We will be back
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