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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Here

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Speaker 1: we go, boys, It is Draft week, coming to your

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Speaker 1: live from the s WBC Mortgage bedroom here in Frisco, Texas.

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Speaker 1: Shannon Gross with my sidekicks, Nate Newton, Jesse Hollo, what's

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Speaker 1: up and coughing? Kurt Daniels all morning, No, starting with that,

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Speaker 1: he's got a health and he's okay. How are things?

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Speaker 1: How are so you had to check up recently? Kurt?

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Speaker 1: How are things are you good? No? I'm good, doing

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Speaker 1: all right? You know. Yeah, I can't complain. I think

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Speaker 1: everything's where it should be. Everything's functioning properly. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think so so far, so good. Yeah, everything off the

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Speaker 1: way I need to Kurt you, Yeah, yeah to you?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was nice. Yeah. Speaking of I don't

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Speaker 1: see you guys because I don't have the stream pulled up,

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Speaker 1: but I have on my ears. What heaven must sound like.

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Speaker 1: I received a pair of those noise canceling headphones, I

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Speaker 1: think the number one in the seven hundred, and not

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Speaker 1: only are they comfortable, but these are the best like

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Speaker 1: hearing things I have ever put on my ear. Do

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Speaker 1: you guys have yours on? Oh? Yeah, they're amazing. Thank you, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say thank you. Bos We kind of got

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Speaker 1: week I have mine. But man, I saw y'alls on

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Speaker 1: the deal. Nice nice, Jesse got nice man. Wow, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got mine on man, like the Bluetooth Action and everything.

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Speaker 1: I love it, man, I take my walks with them

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Speaker 1: as I love it. The sound is great, the noise

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Speaker 1: cancelation is great. You know. The thing that I'm trying

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Speaker 1: get to feel the Jesse. You're trying to block everybody

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Speaker 1: anyway with the noise counselan so that when people won't

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Speaker 1: call your name man, don't do that, and you don't

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Speaker 1: need to run around with those. I learned that from

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Speaker 1: the school of Nate Newton. Yeah. Wow, well I look bad.

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Speaker 1: I look bad. I need to get a haircut. Wow. Anyway, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: how you doing. I'm doing well. It's good to see

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Speaker 1: you guys again. You guys ready for this draft. I'm ready, man,

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Speaker 1: I am ready, more than ready. Yeah. All right, Shannon?

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Speaker 1: You okay over there? Not hearing anything. Everybody in the cut.

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Speaker 1: We lost Shannon on the web. It's nice. We got

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Speaker 1: the draft coming up, so I mean I'm back. Oh,

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Speaker 1: he's back. All right. We're just getting ready to talk draft. Shannon.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Let's go go with it, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: let's go all right? All right, So we got to

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Speaker 1: the seventeenth pick. What are you feeling. You got a

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Speaker 1: with you. I'm with you, Jess. Hmm. It's been lost, jest.

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Speaker 1: Safety or corner, safety your corner, safety, your corner, and

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Speaker 1: in the NFL draft. I think we're doing ourselves with

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Speaker 1: we we need some type of corner, some type of safety.

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Speaker 1: Man if and if all those fails, we need that

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Speaker 1: So it's a lot of defensive players out there. But

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, Jesse. Corner and safety should be a

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Speaker 1: like that all around athlete that can play multiple deals

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Speaker 1: that's why they have always thoughted won a position of need.

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Speaker 1: But if you got a safety that can play multiple

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Speaker 1: some our our Dallas Cowboys dot com writers let me

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Speaker 1: Dave Hellman's got us taken delp it from from LSU.

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Speaker 1: Let's go Rob, but he won't be that, Jesson, I

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Speaker 1: don't think I'm serious, man, This kid three weeks ago

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Speaker 1: Who means not the reason I won't trade up and

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't at one spot, but Atlanta's at six team,

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Speaker 1: So Atlanta's that's what you gotta trade with somebody who wanted.

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Speaker 1: Atlanta is in the same situation as the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: So Uh, now you're talking about third round page. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I don't think they can afford to

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have receivers running all open all over the place.

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Speaker 1: that quarterback. Absolutely, Jesse. Would you move up in this

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Speaker 1: screws up, it is their fault. So I'll give out

427
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Speaker 1: his email address the next podcast on Monday, and you

428
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: can email him if it. If it goes south, it's

429
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: Matt Kent's fault. So but no, it's actually gonna be

430
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Speaker 1: if we pull this thing off, which there's no doubt

431
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Speaker 1: in my mind that we will. It is gonna be

432
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Speaker 1: one of the coolest things that we have ever done

433
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Speaker 1: since I've been here, and I've been here a long time,

434
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Speaker 1: and we've done some really cool stuff. But to pull

435
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Speaker 1: this thing together and and do it all virtually and

436
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Speaker 1: not be in the same building and the same meeting

437
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: rooms to talk about this and do it all virtually

438
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: is going to be a huge feat and it's gonna

439
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: be really cool. With DeMarcus, he's super fired up. I've

440
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: talked to him a couple of times about it. Jamie Fox,

441
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Speaker 1: he's all he's been a Cowboy fan of his whole life.

442
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna have call ins from players, hopefully some celebrities

443
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: are going to call in, and it's gonna be a

444
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: good time. So if you are around and don't have

445
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: anything to do Thursday night, check it out. You can

446
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: see it on all of our social channels. I think

447
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: the first thirty minutes of it will be broadcast on

448
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: our social channels and then you can catch it on

449
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com for the duration of the draft.

450
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Speaker 1: So check it out. It's gonna be really good. It's

451
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: gonna be very cool. You know, I wonder if this

452
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: is something they'll keep doing going forward, even if things

453
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: kind of return to normal, because it's it's got potential

454
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: to be great. It's gonna be amazing. Yeah look and yeah,

455
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: me too. And I know kind of the behind the

456
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Speaker 1: scenes stuff that's going on, the kind of the way

457
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: that this is gonna work. But Jesse and Eate I

458
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: kind of want to get Jesse will start with you.

459
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: Kind of want to get y'all's feedback. What do you

460
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: we know, how we normally watch the draft with everything

461
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: being virtual and you're you're not getting the red carpet

462
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: and you're not getting all the players in the green

463
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: room and all that stuff. What are you expecting from

464
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: kind of I guess a fan point of view from

465
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: the draft this year because they still have fascin interest,

466
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Speaker 1: they want to do thirty two different fan bases across

467
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: the country that is still want to be locked in

468
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: because they're waiting to see all right yeah and then

469
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: and then on top of that would have been thirty

470
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: two teams uh being represented in their fans. You know, Uh,

471
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: this will be more video than we've ever seen my fellas.

472
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: Uh when that when the first pick of the draft,

473
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: Joe Burrows. They're probably shoot a video cam of of

474
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Speaker 1: his home and maybe what he's doing with his family

475
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: or his ten members mess in his house. But then

476
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: it'll be a barrage of highlights of Joe Burrows winning

477
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: the National championship and so on and so forth. So

478
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: uh that it's it's gonna be unique. But you know,

479
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: the NFL would not let you down with with a

480
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Speaker 1: lot of with with a lot of things that they do. Kurt,

481
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: what kind of interesting kind of a work type deal.

482
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Speaker 1: What what are you going to be doing on the

483
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Speaker 1: draft or do you have anything to do with any

484
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: part of I don't have any you just kind of

485
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: as a fan, right, most of our work's already done.

486
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 1: I mean, if Nick needs, if the web guys need

487
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: some help, I'll definitely jump in. But they're they're so

488
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: good at what they do. I'm not sure they will

489
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: need to help. But I'm kind of interested in. You know,

490
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: some of the stuff I've been reading is these mock

491
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: drafts just maybe totally off. I Mean there's this theory

492
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: that you get all these scouts together at these pro

493
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: days and they sort of formed this group think about

494
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: you know, this this players. You know, these are the

495
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: how the players are ranked. This players better than that one.

496
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: We don't really have that interaction this year. It's everything

497
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: so separate. There weren't any pro days, and some people

498
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: are kind of believing that you're not gonna have this

499
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: group think. So you may see some real changes of

500
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: what the experts, the so called experts, the way they

501
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: think these mock drafts are gonna fall. It may be

502
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: quite a bit different. I think that's gonna be kind

503
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: of an interesting aspect to this year's draft that you

504
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: don't have in previous ones. Because if you go to

505
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: NFL dot com, Shannon, Kurt and Jesse, they have four

506
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: they have eight guys that they consistently think a first

507
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: round picks. Then they have another one, two, three, four

508
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: or five six guys that they're saying first a second

509
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: round picks. So virtue, these guys will be high first

510
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: round picks, I mean low first round picks, high second

511
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: round picks. So a lot of guys, I'm with you, Kurt,

512
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 1: A lot of these times, a lot of these guys

513
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: are out on their own for the first time, asked

514
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: experts because they're not gathering and they're not forming they're

515
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: not getting together saying, Okay, what a you got on

516
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: your board? What are you guys looking like? What? What? What?

517
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,239
Speaker 1: What you think about this guy? So? Uh, you know,

518
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: we we like the Xavier kid from Bama. But as

519
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: I look on this things, no, there's nowhere on him

520
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: where he's a Day one pick for us. What NFL

521
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: dot Com saying there's just one of many outlets that

522
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: has a view of a player. That's a great theory, Kurt,

523
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: because if you think about it, a lot of you know,

524
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the media that do these

525
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: mock drafts, they have you know, they're people they talk to,

526
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: they have people that are in the building, they have

527
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: people they form relationships with over the years. Well, those

528
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: people hear a lot of watercool are taught, you know,

529
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: and whether they're in the scouting department or whether they're

530
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: in the front office or whatever. You you know, you

531
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: you walk by your buddy that's in your scouting department

532
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: and you hear him having a conversation about a guy,

533
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: and it turns you on to that guy and you're like, Oh,

534
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check him out and I'm gonna go watch

535
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: some film or I'm gonna and then you kind of

536
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: you keep hearing the same names over and over, and

537
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: that winds up kind of you know, if you're a source,

538
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: then you wind up telling that to your guy. Well,

539
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: like you said, you don't have those conversations because you're

540
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: not in the same building. Everything you hear is in

541
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: a formal, I guess kind of virtual meeting setting, so

542
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: you're not having a lot of these casual conversations about

543
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: this guy and this guy. So, yeah, everything you pro days,

544
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: right when these scouts are at these pro days across

545
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: the country, there is these you know, almost these locker

546
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: room talks or you're in the same airport as another

547
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: scout or another gym or so on and something like that.

548
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: So you have these casual conversations and Jason garigs to

549
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: say over a couple eliminades and that kind of you know,

550
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: that kind of almost tips to hand sometimes what teams

551
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: are looking for, what teams are maybe going, and so

552
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: you got a better understanding. So with all that being eliminated,

553
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, to church point, you absolutely have a different

554
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,239
Speaker 1: all around perspective of what may be happening, who may

555
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: be going where, who may be picking up because these

556
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: guys are just like us. We're all so questioned in

557
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: our homes and you don't have those because you can

558
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: get a feel for a guy. You know, you've you've

559
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: all set with guys and had conversation with guys he

560
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: by oh he's lying, or you're knowing a guy long

561
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: enough to know that when he's telling the truth or

562
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: when he's not telling the truth. So, you know, not

563
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: having that face to face interaction, whether it be at

564
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: someone's pro day and an airport, at a bar, at

565
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: a restaurant somewhere somehow throughout all these travels, these scouts

566
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: and gms, they just they just don't have that face

567
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: to face interaction anymore. So even even the reporters, the

568
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: insiders who are at these pro days, uh and at

569
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: these same bars in these same hotels, they don't have

570
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: that access either. So there's probably gonna be a lot

571
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: of hitting misses when it comes to what are the

572
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, what are the scouts saying opposed to what

573
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: are the quote unquote experts saying, or what are the

574
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: team actually pick. So it's gonna be an interesting, interesting

575
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: um Thursday Friday, especially those first two rounds because we're

576
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: all gonna be tuned in. You got thirty two teams,

577
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: thirty two fan bases invested, and what this drive is

578
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: is gonna do And we're all looking for for something.

579
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Speaker 1: We're looking for something new and refreshing. When in terms

580
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: of sports, you know, of course we all watched last

581
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: night the documentary of the Bulls, so we're all gonna

582
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Speaker 1: be tuned in for the NFL drift in the NFL

583
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Speaker 1: is king in America. You know when when when when

584
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: when you look at this, when you look at this

585
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: like you keep seeing me to turn my head and

586
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: and you know, and I named out possible first round

587
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: picks defensively, and I'm you know, you name out possible

588
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: first round picks offensively. And uh, for the first time

589
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: by by us um being in this virtual world. Uh,

590
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: you don't have a top ten set of guys are

591
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: top five, you know, you know, the only person we

592
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: know is Chase Young and in the burrows after that,

593
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: we don't know. I mean, even tour name has been

594
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: tossed around. It's for is getting down to possible six

595
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: pick San Diego and guys like that. So for the

596
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: first time, you can't just lock in and say, hey,

597
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: this is this is how it's gonna go for at

598
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: least the first two or three picks. You just don't

599
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: know this year. Yep, all right, that's enough for draft talk.

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Speaker 1: I want to get into Let's finish this show stronger

601
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Speaker 1: than we ever have. We need to talk about Jack Prescott,

602
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Speaker 1: we need to talk about Gerald McCoy, we need to

603
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Speaker 1: talk about that awesome mail, bad question. Let's do all that.

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Speaker 1: Let's take our break now that way the last twenty

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Speaker 1: minutes of this show. We can just bring it. You

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Speaker 1: guys with me, We bring it at this last segment.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. Yeah, Justice's back. Okay, then we'll bring it.

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Speaker 1: got a quick question. Can I ask a quick question

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Speaker 1: derail things? Yeah? Absolutely, so, Hey, Jesse, so you've had

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00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: the Cowboys gear behind you and you've had Carolina gear

657
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: behind you. What's that behind you today? Now? So fourth

658
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: and long gear right there? Those are the old right

659
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: there from when we were Yeah, that's my fourth and

660
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: long jerseys right there. It's a little fourth and long

661
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: poster up there. These are this was the this was

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00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: the we had a game. This a black helmet was

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00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: a game where everyone that got eliminated got brought back

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Speaker 1: for this one game and if they outplayed you, they

665
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: were gonna get your spot. Um and you know, if

666
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: they didn't now play you, they got back on the

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00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: bus and went home. And this was our kind of

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Speaker 1: every day uh you know, every game type helmet right

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Speaker 1: here though, the old helmet. So this was the exces

670
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: verse the olds and I wore number eighty three during

671
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: that time. That's the number that they gave me. Uh so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's the that's the good old fourth and long

673
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: uniform back there. Long or a high school thing or what? No,

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Speaker 1: that's fourth and long right there. Good deal? All right, Kurt,

675
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: where do you want to go? We got Dak Prescott,

676
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,959
Speaker 1: we got Gerald McCoy and we got the mail back question. Well,

677
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: I did want to get your feelings on the latest

678
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: news on Dak. Seems like every week we have something

679
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: news Dak. But you know, it's kind of come out

680
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: that he's not going to participate in any of these

681
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: virtual offseason meetings or anything like that. I guess if

682
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: there were OTAs or something, maybe he wouldn't be involved

683
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: in that. I know he's trying to gain leverage for

684
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: his h you know, to work out a long term contract.

685
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: But I gotta wonder, is this is this hurting him

686
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: more than it's helping him. What do you guys think

687
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: If it hurts Dak and hurts the team, that's this

688
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: bottom life. It hurts Dak and hurts everything offense, and

689
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: it hurts everything defense because right now you need Dak

690
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: in there because into it. You know, we talked about

691
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: a lot in the first few minutes of the show

692
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: about defense, defense, defense. Well, if he was at least

693
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: there doing the virtual things, trying to gather all he

694
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: can gather and and have his little one on ones

695
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: with the coaches over the phone or whatever, he can

696
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: at least be even with everybody because they're gonna need ever, ever,

697
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: every man they can get. But he already has leverage,

698
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: So I guess it's I guess you can get more leverage.

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00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know I would, but just from

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00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: a team Steele point, if he's not gonna be ready,

701
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: if he's not doing you know, the system or whatever,

702
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: and they franchise him from one more years as they

703
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: lose leverage because he may not be as prepared, or

704
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: like you said, it may hurt the team. I mean

705
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't know. I just wonder if it's

706
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: hurting him this that this cannot bowl. Well, you fired

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Speaker 1: your coach, brought in a coach that you thought said okay,

708
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: we need to we can't go backwards, we have to

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00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: do this today. And you did that with your quarterback

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00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: in mind. So if it hurts Dak, I mean who

711
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: signed who got him? Signed a deal for thirty million

712
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: and then okay, if you franchise the next year, it's

713
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: gonna be about thirty nine million. So who is it hurting.

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00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: It's hurting the players that's a part of that team.

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00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: It's hurting the fans. I mean, you you cannot let

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00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: this linger if it's about trying to show the fans

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00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: that you're trying to win. Now, I don't and I

718
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: don't get into the negotiation that between mister Jones and that.

719
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: But if that's not there, who's your next option? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Its it bothers me a little bit or a lot

721
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Speaker 1: because I think this season more than any other season,

722
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Speaker 1: the way things are going, and everything's gonna be virtual,

723
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: like you're not getting to spend that time on the

724
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: field with your guys, So you need every opportunity, whether

725
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: it's meetings, whether it's interaction with coaches, what through virtual interviews,

726
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: interaction with players through virtual interviews, like, you need every

727
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: You need to be around this team and this coaching

728
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: staff as much as you possibly can because everything's new.

729
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: You don't know anything, and everybody is already gonna be

730
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 1: a little bit behind the curve this season because of

731
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: not being able to be in the facility, not being

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00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: able to have then pay them man his mon need

733
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Speaker 1: if you want him there, pay the man his money need.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. This hurts no one but the Dallas Cowboys.

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00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: And here's why. Because if he decides to sign his

736
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: franchise tenure right thirty three million dollars and this season

737
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: doesn't go as well as planned. Once you become a

738
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: starting quarterback in the National Football League, Dak will have

739
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: the opportunity even if they franchise him again next year

740
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: for almost forty million dollars. So that's two years for

741
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: seventy million dollars. Seventy something million dollars on a guy.

742
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: If you decide to let him walk, this is gonna happen.

743
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna go somewhere else in the National Football League

744
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: and sign a long term deal. And now that puts

745
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: you back and rebuilding mode, because now you have to

746
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: go back on the market and find another quarterback. Look

747
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: at the quarterbacks in the last thirty years that's been

748
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: drafted in the first round. Only a small percentage of

749
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: them have actually been drafted in the first round and

750
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: had a long term success in the National Football League.

751
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: Finding a quarterback is one of the most essential pieces

752
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: and building a team in the in the NFL, you

753
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: have one. You have one right here. And the longer

754
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: you prolong this thing and the longer you go into

755
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: this thing, the more he's gonna be away from this

756
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: team and not doing virtual workouts. I don't blame him

757
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: for not doing virtual workouts. He's done everything you've asked

758
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: him to do up to this point. Now he's asking

759
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: you to do what you're supposed to do, and he

760
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: signed me to a long term deal that I see

761
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: fits what I want to do. And if you don't,

762
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: then you find yourself in this situation where you're going

763
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: to have to look for a new quarterback. He's going

764
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: to have an opportunity in the league again to start

765
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: four a team. I just I know that for a fact.

766
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: Teams are gonna look at do I go draft a

767
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: guy out of college in the year or two who

768
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: I don't know, Or do I take a guy who

769
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Speaker 1: has four or five six years of experience, who had

770
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: a bad situation in Dallas, who we think can be

771
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: a starter for us, so he'll get an opportunity again

772
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: to start in this league. The Cowboys have to worry

773
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: about if we go and then they won't be They

774
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: won't be bad enough. The Cowboys in the next two

775
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: years won't be bad enough to get themselves in a

776
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: position to go and get a guy like Lawrence or

777
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: someone else in the draft that may come up. They

778
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: won't be that bad. They'll be somewhere where they're at

779
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: right now, and most of the time those type of

780
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks don't get to seventeen. You lucked up with getting

781
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: the guy in the fourth round in dak Prescott. And

782
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: if you look over your history from the Dallas Cowboys,

783
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: they don't have a great history of quarterbacking. Yes, you

784
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: have Roger, you have Troy, and then after Troy, you

785
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: went through a long list of failures at the quarterback position,

786
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: and you lucked up on a guy in Tony Romo

787
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: who you got undrafted, and then you lucked up again

788
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: on a guy in the fourth round. I don't know

789
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: if they haven't. I don't know if Jerry's manufacturing full

790
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: leaf clovers, but I doubt you're able to get that

791
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: lucky again to find a guy who could come in

792
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: and be a starter that you got in the fourth round.

793
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: And as bad as you may have thought, Kirk Cousins was,

794
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: Washington is in that cycle right now. Yeah, the Redskins

795
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: in that cycle just good enough, are just bad enough

796
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: to be picking way down low. And now you got

797
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: a chance to pick in the second round. And you

798
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: got a kid last year in the first round. But

799
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: maybe the seventeen eighteen or twentieth thick. You don't like

800
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: this kid, you're letting him come up for discussion. Now

801
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: you're talking about being you won't chase Yon. But you see,

802
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: I have to give consideration to a tour that you

803
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: don't want to be there. You don't want to be there,

804
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: and so I Kirk to me. Kirk Cousins a perfect example.

805
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: The red Skins didn't warn him. He had a social

806
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: year with Minnesota last year or so ago. Last year

807
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: they found a groove with this kid, and so they

808
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: went into the second round. Quarterback is the central I

809
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: wish you just essential to what you're trying to do

810
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: and how you trying to have longevity as a winning program.

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00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: Don't you guys think too? If I mean you, you

812
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: groomed at now for several years, and you kind of

813
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: the last year or two you you've painted yourself into

814
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 1: a corner by saying he's our guy, he's our guy,

815
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: We're going forward, he's our guy. We're building this team

816
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: around him. If you don't sign him to a long

817
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: term deal, isn't that kind of just wasting the last

818
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: five to six years of this of the talent on

819
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: this team because you you've been saying for the last

820
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: two to three years, he's our guy. We're going forward

821
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: with this guy. Now, all of a sudden, if you

822
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: let him go, that's kind of you've just kind of

823
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: thrown out the window what your long term plan is, right,

824
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: I know what brother gang or add none. The takeaway man,

825
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: this is either this is either make a break for

826
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and how they're gonna handle this situation

827
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: because you're bringing another quarterback and this guy's gonna have

828
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: to be lead. And even though there's a lot of

829
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks when this started that was out up free, older

830
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: guys and young it was nobody that you can say, hey,

831
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: he's that much better than than than that. So, like

832
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: I said, I don't get into negotiations. I don't know

833
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: what's holding the good negotiations up, whether it's years or

834
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: whether it's money per year or guarantees. I don't know

835
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: what's holding the virtual I can name a couple of

836
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: teams we'll be looking for a quarterback. If they decided

837
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: the franchise back for two years straight after this, after

838
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: his two years up hanging dollar, they don't give him

839
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: a long term deal, you got you gotta suspect Bruce's

840
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: areas in Tampa Bay will be looking for a quarterback

841
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: in two years when Tom Brady retires. The New Orleans

842
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 1: Saints with Sean Payton, we'll be looking for a quarterback

843
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: in two years. Um if, if, if, when when Drew

844
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: Brees retires, I'm pretty sure that a team like the

845
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: coach will be looking for a quarterback in two years

846
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: after Philip Rivers retires or they move on without him.

847
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: There are a couple of teams. San Diego might be

848
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: still looking for a quarterback in two years. If things

849
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: don't work out, There'll be Pittsburgh. We'll probably looking for

850
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: a quarterback in two years if things don't work out.

851
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: Been rather Burley inside to retire. There are a lot

852
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: of teams, good football teams who will be looking for

853
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: a young, starting caliber quarterback in two years. If the

854
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: Cowboys can't get him locked up, don't don't, don't think

855
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: for one second that these other teams won't throw him

856
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: a boatload of cash and see if he'll see if

857
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: he'll leave Dallas. So if he won't, let's move on.

858
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: We got a few minutes left in the show. We'll go.

859
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: We'll go a little bit over since we didn't get

860
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: started to a little bit late. Two things I want

861
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: to get to. One. I was able to talk to

862
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy over the weekend and one thing that really

863
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: stood out to me that he said, And Nate, I

864
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: can't wait to get your opinion on this, because you've

865
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: been you've been screaming for a big, fat, greasy guy

866
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: in the middle that you want, and it sounds like

867
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: we got him. Sounds like we got a couple of them.

868
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: But one thing that stood out to me when I

869
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: talked to Gerald was he's lost twenty pounds in the

870
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: offseason and he said he feels better, His knees feel

871
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: a lot better, he feels healthy, and he wants to

872
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: try to elongate his career. He's talked to some people

873
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: in the past and he thinks he can do that

874
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 1: by coming in a little bit lighter. Now. That kind

875
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: of goes against why, I guess, Nate, why you wanted

876
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: a big run stopper is twenty pounds on a guy

877
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: that clogs up the middle. That does that worry you

878
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: a little bit that he's coming in and he's wanting

879
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: to slim up a little bit, or is that gonna

880
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: make it better? Because he's gonna be able to be

881
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: more athletic and agile. Jerald McCord is a three technique,

882
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: so he'll be playing with Malie Collins, play that over

883
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: either guard. So, uh, that that's good, that's great. Uh.

884
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: He's savvy, he plays hard. That that that is my deal.

885
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: He's smart and he plays hard. He's a veteran type guy.

886
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: We got him here for a year or so as

887
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: a stop gap until they can sign something better or

888
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: draft something that is worthy. To show Tristan Hill what

889
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: he what a three technique should look like an act

890
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: as a professional. You got done, Terrio Poe. Man, that's

891
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: a poke eaton man. That's a beef eat man. That's

892
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: a sour eaton man. So I ain't worried about that.

893
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: The one technique is taken care of. Me and that man,

894
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 1: we are already. I got some things go to corral.

895
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: Here we come, Me and don Terrio Poe. I guess

896
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: was my question too, Say, you know McCoy's not really

897
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: that stop Yeah, beef in the middle. You want him

898
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: pushing up field, rushing. Yeah, he's a three technique man,

899
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: and if he can bend that edge, that gives that

900
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: especially when he's playing right next to Lawrence. When when

901
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: you got to when you just can't turn protection to

902
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: a guy like Lawrence and let him deal with things

903
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: one on one because you have a Gerald mccour that's

904
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: getting up that field. That is what made the previous

905
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: coaching staff successful when they was in their heyday with

906
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, was they was making things having Warren Sap.

907
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: We never got Warren Sap that Jerald McCoury is not

908
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: Warren Soap, but he has some of those same tendencies,

909
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: and maybe he's savvy enough and we can keep him

910
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: freshen up during the game and he can affect end

911
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: of games. What else you take from that challenge? You

912
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: sound like you had a good conversation with him. Yeah,

913
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: real energetic guy. He kind of just talking to him.

914
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 1: He reminded me of of of a defensive Nate Newton

915
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: back in the day. He said that he takes football

916
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: and his craft very very very very very seriously, and

917
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: he's dedicated, but he still likes to have fun. And

918
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: he kind of alluded to you know, fans in the

919
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: past have sometimes gotten frustrated with him because, um, he

920
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 1: in football is football and he takes it very serious,

921
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: but he also likes to you know, enjoy himself and

922
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: have fun and you know, have a personality and you know,

923
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: but he was basically saying, don't get it twisted. Just

924
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm cutting up and having fun and joking

925
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: around doesn't mean that I don't take the game serious

926
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: and that you know, I'm I'm putting in the work,

927
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing all of this. So that was one thing

928
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: that kind of stood out. And another thing that stood

929
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 1: out he basically echoed what we've heard about this coaching staff.

930
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: They're not gonna ask him to try to fit into

931
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: a system. They're gonna ask They're gonna ask him to

932
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: do what he does the best, and that's get up

933
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 1: the field and be who he is and not try

934
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: to make him fit into a you know, slote him

935
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: into something that he's not. So that was that was

936
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: encouraging because not now not only heard that from the

937
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: coaching staff, but we've also heard it from from players.

938
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: So I think that was that, you know, those were

939
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: the kind of the big things that that I took

940
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: out of it. He said that he's been talking to Tank,

941
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: that he's had a relationship with him from a previous

942
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: pro bowl Um and that you know him and Tank

943
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: have talked a lot since he's been on the team.

944
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: Um said, he's basically hasn't been to Dallas yet. He

945
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: hasn't left Tampa, Um, but he's talked to the coaching

946
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: staff I think once through virtual meetings. UM. So, yeah,

947
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: a lot of real encouraging things. I was impressed. He's

948
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: a real personable guy. UM got five kids helping them

949
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: home school during the day right now. So yeah, I'm excited.

950
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: But to see what he can do, Man, I'm gonna

951
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: tell you something. We we we have to believe that

952
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: this coaching staffing that mister Jones, especially defensively and special teams.

953
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: You you literally saying, hey, man, we believe that y'all

954
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: got the right guys. That that's gonna that You're gonna

955
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: take these guys and fit them into your scheme or

956
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys to play within your scheme

957
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: and flourish because, like Jesse said earlier, by this thing

958
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: being virtual, by offenses being a tick slore and getting

959
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: into a groove and building a unity and being on

960
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: the same page, and with Dak's sitting out of all

961
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: these virtual things, which I don't really don't believe that.

962
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: I really don't believe. So here we go. Yeah, I

963
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: don't believe Dak's sitting out. Dad's too smart for that.

964
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: He he made out uh be on them when everybody

965
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: else on there but Dak gonna look at that thing here.

966
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: I just believe that in him. All right. The last

967
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: question before before we get out of here, this was

968
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: a male bad question this week. Uh start with you, Jesse,

969
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: who do you think he might even pick a couple

970
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: of guys, two or three guys, one guy, whatever you

971
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: want to do. Who do you think has the potential

972
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: with this new coaching staff to to have a breakout

973
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: season the show. The first thing that comes to my

974
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: mind tight end te one Blake Jarwin. He finally gets

975
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: his opportunity to be te one, doesn't have to look

976
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: over his shoulder, doesn't have to worry about the gold

977
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: jacket Hall of Famer stealing any of his reps, or

978
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: not being able to get the full potential of of

979
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: practices and games. I think now he has an opportunity

980
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: to everything is on him. He gets he gets the

981
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: number one choice. Think about this. Jason Witten had sixty

982
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: plus catches last year. Think about it. If you give

983
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: a guy who's a little bit more athletic, a literally

984
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: a lot and younger who has a little bit more

985
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: horsepower in juice in his motor than Jason Wittens. If

986
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin gets sixty five catches this year, I think

987
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: this is a guy. Sixty five catches for a guy

988
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: like Blake Jarwin who has a ton of athleticism. When

989
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: you see him play, how he break tackles, how he

990
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: can go up and compete, catch the ball at a

991
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: high point in indoor contact, and can run. I'm not

992
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: saying he's running Davis in his prime, but he can run.

993
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: He can take those eight yard hitch routes, break a

994
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: tackle and turn them to twenty twenty five thirty yards.

995
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: I think he is going to have an opportunity even

996
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: if he gets If he dohing gets sixty, if he

997
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: gets forty of those, I mean this is a guy

998
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: who can have anywhere from six seven eight hundred yards

999
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: and a boatload of touchdowns, especially in the red zone.

1000
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: He has a chance and I think he will to

1001
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: break out this year. He got a little money in

1002
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: his pocket now, not not worried about all those different things.

1003
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: When my next dollar gonna come from. He's kind of

1004
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: set te one is his deal. He gets all the

1005
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: first shots. Blake Jarwin is my breakout player for this year. Kurt,

1006
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: who's your guy? Well, I'll take I guess maybe it's

1007
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: just the low hanging fruit, But you hope maybe a

1008
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 1: guy like Lewis will get a chance. Now. I think

1009
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: in some ways he was overlooked by the previous coaches,

1010
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: some just because of his size. I mean what, he's

1011
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: five ten five of them, maybe the most, and they

1012
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: wanted to you know, they want a big, tall, rangy

1013
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: corners and not just he didn't fit the bill physically,

1014
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: but he kept coming out big. You know, he seemed

1015
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: to make the big plays when we needed him. He

1016
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: had some turnovers. Maybe this uh regime coaching regime will

1017
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: kind of overlooked the physical aspects of it and just

1018
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: can flat out to see what he does on the field.

1019
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: This might be his opportunity to really step up, especially

1020
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: now you know they they're weak in the secondary. They

1021
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: need some help. Maybe this is a guy that'll get

1022
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: a chance to prove himself and really get a chance

1023
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: to step up and contribute even more. Nate's here we

1024
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: go back, here we go zegis back Gay your quarterback

1025
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: and at the virtual means, but Zeke is there, baby.

1026
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: So who you gonna lean on? Hey, who you gonna

1027
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: lean on? Who You're gonna get that ball to in

1028
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: the passing game? Who you gonna get that ball to

1029
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: in the running game? Hagel Zeke slash Tony Pollard? Look

1030
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: five running backs to come alive and be positive? Not

1031
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: alive and situational, but alive and positive. You hit me shinning?

1032
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: Do you hear me? I hear you? And you know what?

1033
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: You know what's funny? I had I have four guys,

1034
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin, Jordan Lewis, and I was gonna say Tony

1035
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: Pollard was gonna be my other one because I think

1036
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: this coaching staff is gonna find a way to get

1037
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: him more involved in the offense. I think he's a

1038
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: weapon that they hadn't even scratched the surface on. And

1039
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: we heard when he came in as a rookie, before

1040
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: he even stepped foot on the field, the guys were

1041
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: talking about how fast he got to the next level,

1042
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: how quick he was. The defensive guys were really impressed

1043
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: with him, and I don't think they've even touched his

1044
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: potential yet, so I think he's a big one. But

1045
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with kind of an old dog, and

1046
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm probably it's probably because I personally want the man

1047
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: to do good. But I think I think Tyrone Crawford

1048
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna say him and the reason why

1049
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: he's had a full off season and half a season

1050
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: to to to have surgeries and get things right. I

1051
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: know he's he's getting up there for a for a

1052
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, a football player in age, and he's coming

1053
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: off double hip surgery and some other things. Titanium, baby, titanium. Still,

1054
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: if he can get through that, I think I think

1055
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: they I think since the time he got here, with

1056
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: the exception of his rookie year and maybe his second year,

1057
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: they have tried to put him in positions that they

1058
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: needed him to feel and not let him be the

1059
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: player that he is. And I think with this new

1060
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: coaching staff and everything we've heard is they're gonna they're gonna.

1061
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: This resets the board with Jorge lewis a reset that's

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Speaker 1: the board. For whatever reason, he couldn't get on the

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Speaker 1: field with the old coaching staff if we all thought

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Speaker 1: he should be um, I think this reset. This is

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Speaker 1: gonna reset a lot of guys. They're gonna come in

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Speaker 1: this coaching staff with you know, no you know, no

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Speaker 1: preconceived notions. They're gonna look at the film, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: look at the player, and they're gonna go, you should

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Speaker 1: be playing, and here's how you should be playing. I

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Speaker 1: hope what they do with Tyrone is, Hey, this is

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Speaker 1: the kind of guy you are. This is how we're

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Speaker 1: gonna use you. We're not gonna try to make you

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Speaker 1: play here or here because we don't have another guy

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Speaker 1: to fill that position. We're gonna let you play to

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Speaker 1: your strengts. So that's I agree with everything every one

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Speaker 1: of you guys said. And then I'm gonna throw an

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Speaker 1: extra guy in there and say Tyrone Crawford. So that's

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Speaker 1: my that's my course. Zeke Man, Yeah, I think I know.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell y'all. I'm gonna tell y'all some man. Y'all, y'all,

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Speaker 1: you know what, man, I'm gonna knock on your dope

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Speaker 1: one day and you're gonna come back there. Thing is

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Speaker 1: a FedEx fass gonna be Nate Newton. I'm zee. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, man, this is what's gonna make this team

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Speaker 1: go man. Zeke baby makes the team. Girl. Zeke has

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Speaker 1: been the team. Zeke has handed he more carries and

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Speaker 1: who knows who man last year, you don't need more

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Speaker 1: pol I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something.

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Speaker 1: It is not that he's gonna get more carried. It's

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Speaker 1: this coach gonna know how to use him. Whenever a

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Speaker 1: coach of this nature like coach McCarthy, you say, the

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Speaker 1: coach that just wanted to pass Super Bowl, even a

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Speaker 1: coach with the fournite when they have an elite running

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Speaker 1: back slash with a guy like Tony Poller, this thing

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Speaker 1: is gonna be unreal, especially with Dak maybe said possibly

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Speaker 1: not there are under the virtual deal where he's not

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Speaker 1: being a part of this Who who are you gonna

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Speaker 1: lean on? Who you gonna lean on? I'm telling you now,

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Speaker 1: you guys better get on board and sign up. Man

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Speaker 1: I Robot, I want you to have a Zeke thing

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Speaker 1: next time you come, have a little package together. Thank

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Speaker 1: you all. Well, we got the draft on Thursday, Tune

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Speaker 1: in seven o'clock. Jamie foxx DeMarcus Ware will be hosting.

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Speaker 1: Cannot wait to get back on the air on Monday

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Speaker 1: to see what all draft picks we got and talk

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Speaker 1: about and grade the draft. Nate, thank you for bringing

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Speaker 1: it as always, Jesse, thanks for I gotta get a

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Speaker 1: shot out. I gotta give a birthday shout out to

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Speaker 1: my guy Mike peter Don. Hit me up on Twitter

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Speaker 1: his birthday. Happy birthday, Mike peter Don. This is I'm

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Speaker 1: Kenna Zeke. He is I'm Kenna Zeke. No Kurt, glad

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Speaker 1: to hear everything out and doing good. Kurt, you hate Zeke?

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Speaker 1: You hate Zeke? Kurtte Zeke that I robot Kid. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for keeping us on the air. Thanks for chipping

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Speaker 1: in and hell thanks Matt get to get that get

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Speaker 1: that montage together for Zeke you. We will be back

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Speaker 1: on Monday. Hey, hang in with the zig zig zig

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Speaker 1: zig zig Zie has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.