1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: This is John, this is Sam, your og Okay Storytime 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: podcast hosts, and we have some spectacular stories coming up. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: But real quick, we got a two minute break from 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: our lovely sponsors keeping this ship sailing. 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: My sister didn't honor our argument, so I decided to 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: no longer be involved with her. No honor, no involvement. 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: That's the rule. I really need some feedback on this 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: because it's eating away at me. Back in June, my 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: grandfather passed away. My grandmother passed away four years ago. 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: On the day that my grandfather passed, my father called 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: me forty four female and offered me his home as 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: my husband, thirty five mal and I are looking to 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: move where my immediate family lives. By the way, this 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: comes from Hoy Poy pink fog on the r slash 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Okay Storytime subr. So my husband and I discussed it 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: and we accepted the offer. A few days later, my sister, 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: forty two female called me and asked if she and 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: her husband could live in the house until we arrived. 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: We were looking to move in about a year and 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: a half from now because they wanted to be able 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: to live free and save up for a down payment 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: on a house, since the house would be sitting empty 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: until we arrived. I said, of course they could. Fast 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: forward to a couple weeks ago, my son, tu Mel, 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: and I flew out to Texas for my grandfather's memorial, 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: and while I was there, my sister was moving things 27 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: into the empty house and started to get things situated. 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: I was missing what I wanted to do with it 29 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: when we eventually moved in, and my sister looked kind 30 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: of annoyed. I didn't really talk more about it after that. 31 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: At one point, my father asked if they needed a 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: couple of months past when we arrived to get things 33 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: finalized and moved out. Would we be okay with that? Again, 34 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: I said it on mind. My husband and I own 35 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: a home, so we know the process can be lengthy 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: and things can go sideways. Yesterday, my husband texted me 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: and asked if everything was okay. I told him that 38 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: while I was busy at work, all was fine. But 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: why was he asking? He told me my sister started 40 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: texting him. My sister said to him this verbatim. I 41 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: was just curious if you've been brought up to the 42 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: speed about the house out here. Hooy POI pink fog 43 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: knows that my grandparents and my dad offered it to 44 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: us first, and that we plan to live there for 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: a while before we can save enough money to buy 46 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: a place of our own. But while she was out 47 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: there a couple of weeks ago, she really made it 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: seem like she think you guys are moving right in. 49 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: When my father offered the home to me, I was 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: not made aware that the house was offered to her first. 51 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: When my husband showed me the text, I called my 52 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: dad and asked if that was true. He told me yes, 53 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: but that my sister had softly declined. He said her 54 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: words were, I don't think we want to do that, 55 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: so it was offered to me. My husband then tells 56 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: her it's fine because we're good eighteen months away from moving. 57 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: My sister then throws this fabulous curveball, Yeah, we were 58 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: thinking around five years. Once my husband told me that part, 59 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: I became livid. She knew we planned to move in 60 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: January twenty twenty six. She only asked to stay in 61 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: the house until we arrived, and my dad asked for 62 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: a couple additional months after arrival just in case, And 63 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: now she decided that they're staying for five years. Immediately, 64 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: I blew up on my sister and told her that 65 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: she's got some big balls if she thinks she can 66 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: attempt to paint this to my husband, like I'm taking 67 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: what's rightfully hers away from her. Bottom line, you said no, 68 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: and we said yes, and now you've decided you want 69 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: it all, you want it after all that you're just 70 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: going to take it for however long you want. Then 71 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: I then told her I will no longer be talking 72 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: to her about this and she will not text my 73 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: husband about this again. She went silent, and I called 74 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: my dad to fill him on her new five year 75 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: plan and that because the home is in his name, 76 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: we can communicate about the home through him, as I 77 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: was not talking directly to her about this anymore. So 78 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: am I the ahole for being mad and blowing up 79 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: at my sister about going back on the original agreement. 80 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: And honestly, I'd like to know if anyone thinks that 81 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: a soft decline is enough to come back and say, 82 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: we want it after all, so we're going to take it. 83 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: I spoke to my father this morning about what he 84 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: spoke with my sister. She denied, saying it would take 85 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: five years, but it would definitely be at least a 86 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: couple of years. I told my father, we have it 87 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: in a text message of her saying it would be 88 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: five years. My husband sent the text conversation screenshot to 89 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: my father after I relayed this to him. I made 90 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: it clear that this was what she does and how 91 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: she tries to twist things to her advantage. I also 92 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: made it crystal clear that I feel that he needs 93 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: to help hold that she declined when she when he 94 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: offered it to her, and that we said yes to 95 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: the offer. I explained that in reality, if this was 96 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: happening outside the family arrangement, there's no way in HG 97 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: Double Hockey six anyone else would give her the house 98 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: thank rintal agreement type of situation. I also made it 99 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: clear that if he decided to let her do what 100 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: she wanted instead of honoring the agreement she made with me, 101 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: then we would never come to Texas for any reason. 102 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: My dad was unhappy to hear that and didn't want 103 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: this to tear the family apart. I told him he 104 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: needed to hold her accountable for her behavior. He said 105 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: he understood and would want to be meeting with my 106 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: sister and her husband in a week or so to 107 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: discuss in detail, and may or may not need to 108 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: call me to be involved in the discussion. So that's 109 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: all for right now. I won't have any further updates 110 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: I think until that time. Thank you to everyone for 111 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: your support and advice. Here's the update. I spoke to 112 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: my father yesterday. He decided to compromise and asked us 113 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: to hold off until moving until January twenty twenty seven. 114 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: We had originally planned for January twenty twenty six, so 115 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: my sister could have two years rather than just one. 116 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: While I am not happy with this decision, I am 117 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: not so stubborn as to dig my heels in. I 118 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: am always open to compromise. However, while my husband is 119 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: okay with this decision, he won't be solidly behind it 120 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: because he asked my father for a written agreement between 121 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 1: the three parties us, my dad, my sister, and her husband. 122 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: It must be notarized as well. No response from my 123 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: dad yet about the agreement in writing. Oh, that's so crucial. 124 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: You gotta have that. 125 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: Mmm, you gotta have that With the sister who clearly 126 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: is trying to always push the goalposts. 127 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: We were feeling like he will not agree to that 128 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: and that this is where we will draw the line 129 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: in the sand. If he declines this request, then not 130 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: only will we be going with our Plan B, we 131 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: will be going no contact with my dad and sister 132 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: and her husband. So that's for the update now. Thank 133 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: you to everyone who had a lot of support and 134 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: kindness on my original post. It gave me a lot 135 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:54,119 Speaker 1: to think about. 136 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: Edit. 137 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: Yep, just like y'all thought, Dad said no to the 138 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: written agreement. He said he's instead going to make some 139 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: changes to his will that will settle the matter for good. 140 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: That said, I asked for more info and said he 141 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: will share with me, my two sisters, and our husbands 142 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: once the changes are made. At it too. After putting 143 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: a lot of thought into this and reviewing all of 144 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: your comments, I told my husband that I will no 145 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: longer wish to move to Texas. My family, minus my 146 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: youngest sister, who is not involved, has made me feel 147 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: very unwelcome at this point, and honestly, I couldn't care 148 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: less about what's in my dad's will. I have always 149 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: loved my dad for the person who he is, not 150 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: what he can give me. We've decided to go with 151 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: Plan B moving to Colorado. We have an update to 152 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: I have to go right back. Wait do they already 153 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: live in Texas? Where do they live before? 154 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: It's not even that I disagree with the principle, It's 155 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: just that I disagree with the execution. 156 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it's worthy of cutting off I did 157 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: in that us I do. I feel like Ope has 158 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: been her whole life. I wish you would talk about this. 159 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: Maybe she will here in a second. She wants this, 160 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: Sister wants it her way. Sister always gets it her way. 161 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: It's been like the her whole life, and she's upset 162 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: with it because if she's gonna go there, live her 163 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: life there, and this is happening right now before she's 164 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: even over there, That's that's the life I wouldn't want 165 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: to live in. I don't know. Tell me how you 166 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: feel face. 167 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: Pard to me, it's just like if you have you 168 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: if it's been like that your whole life, shouldn't you 169 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: have learned how to work around. 170 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: It by now? No? No, no, I disagree update too, Kyl. 171 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: This is going to be a short and final update 172 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: for most of those who are new check out this link. 173 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: After sitting on our decision for a couple of weeks, 174 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: to ensure I was not being hasty. Finally called my dad. Honestly, 175 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to go to the petty row and wait 176 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: until just before we're to move, and had gotten our 177 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: word that her sister was mostly moved out to tell 178 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: him we're not coming to Texas. However, spite what many 179 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: of you think of my dad at this point, I 180 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: still love and respect my father and therefore felt obligated 181 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: to tell him. I called him yesterday. I called him 182 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: yesterday after I knew he was home from church and 183 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: told him that we just could give the house to 184 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: my sister, as we decided that it would be best 185 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: for us and our son to reside in Colorado instead. 186 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: I informed him that I've decided to go no contact 187 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: with my sister and not to bother wasting his breath 188 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: trying to talk to me out of it. I told 189 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: him that I was no longer going to allow her 190 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: to continue to pull this crap with me. My dad 191 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: asked what else she had done, because he couldn't believe 192 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: she's done this to me before. I told him that 193 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: while this wasn't exactly the same as others, it's her 194 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: tactics that she uses to dig herself out of holes 195 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: while dropping the dirt on me, making me look like 196 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: the bad guy. But you'll never be the bad guy 197 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: if you join us live every weekday at three pm PST. 198 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: Just tap a profile. That's right. Dad seemed disappointed. No 199 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: matter what Reddit thinks of my dad, I wanted my 200 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: son to grow up around him and to learn from him. 201 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: I've completely blocked my sister on all avenues. My youngest 202 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: sister and I are still in contact. We do not 203 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: talk about her sister or her husband. I've respected her 204 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: request to remain in Switzerland and the whole thing. I've 205 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: also placed my dad and my mom on LCS status. Folks, 206 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: I implore you to always remember one thing, the quote 207 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: that my family loves to toss at each other when 208 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: there's a dispute, blood is thicker than water. But my 209 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: dear reditor friends, that's not the full quote. The full 210 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: quote is the blood of the Covenant is thicker than 211 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: the water of the womb. Remember that, okay, Govenant, the promise, 212 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: the blood of the covenants, and that is the whole thing. Guys, 213 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: tell me, if you agree with Dakota or me, I 214 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: just agree fully with them. You already know where we 215 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: side with things. 216 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: I just think that there's no reason they couldn't push 217 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: back the time, Like, what's the reason that they have 218 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: to move in that exact time frame they want? 219 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: They want their son to at a young age to 220 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: live near the father, father, near the immediate family, and 221 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: to learn from him. And they're like, you know what grandfather, 222 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: so his grandfather. Yeah, so they're like, we'll come in 223 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: January twenty twenty six. How old is their kid too? 224 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: Right now? 225 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: So in three years of be five, that's plenty of time. 226 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 2: It's the perfect age to start being around a grandparent 227 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: and developing. 228 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were okay with that ship. But since 229 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: they didn't get a writ in agreement, she's like, this 230 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: is all so sketchy because three years from now they 231 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: might be like, oh wait, wait wait, can you wait 232 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: another year? Oh wait, wait, can't you wait another in 233 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: the will? So it's not it could get all messed up. 234 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: But and the sister's always done stuff like this, And 235 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: who knows if she's gonna do it again. Because sister 236 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: said five years. You don't think after three years she 237 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: can swiddle another two. She's already got She went from 238 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: eighteen to three you don't think she'd get another two. 239 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 2: And I think it is pretty telling that they offered 240 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: the other sister first and didn't offer it to Ope. 241 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: So I think that shows who they kind of side 242 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: with a little bit more. 243 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're on my side. 244 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: I well, I don't know if I. 245 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: Well, we disagree with you, Okay, no, we're going to 246 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: the next story. 247 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: I'm more on Op's side than the sister and the 248 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 2: family side. I just don't know if going low contact 249 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: is worth it, because it's like, the whole point was 250 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: it's like I want my kid to go up around 251 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: his grandfather. And now it's like your response is like, well, 252 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 2: I guess I'm going to completely like dissolve that plan 253 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: dissolving it. 254 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: It's the Colorado. They're moving to Colorado because the father 255 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: will't honor what her request. He did in the will. 256 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: We don't know. 257 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's I feel like that's the whole crux of 258 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: that story. My mom said my sister should have married 259 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: my husband. Now I think they're trying to sabotage my marriage. 260 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: Oh, you married the wrong one. You gotta go with 261 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: this one, you married the wrong sister. Brother. 262 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: I'm upset at my mom and my sister because of 263 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: something my mother said. But everyone around me feels like 264 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 2: I'm overreacting. Please be brutally honest in telling me if 265 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: I'm being insecure or if my mom and my husband 266 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 2: are wrong in this. 267 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: You got it. 268 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 2: Let me give you a little bit of backstory. My husband, 269 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: James thirty four male, and I twenty nine female, were 270 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: neighbors growing up. My sister, fran thirty four female, was 271 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 2: in the same grade. Was in the same grade as 272 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 2: my husband. Growing up, everyone knew my sister in school 273 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 2: because she is very smart and beautiful. And by the way, 274 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: this comes from user tell Mom's sister thirty four thirty 275 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: two forty two on the Okay story Time Subredda. James 276 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: had a huge crush on her, and all of us 277 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: knew about it. He asked her out for senior prom 278 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: and Franz shot him down in front of the entire school. 279 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: They still remained friends, but he moved to a different 280 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: state for college and we didn't hear much from him 281 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,359 Speaker 2: except to see him when he came back for holidays. 282 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: James and I were never friends growing up, since I 283 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: was in middle school when this happened. In fact, I 284 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: was much younger than both of them, and they would 285 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: actively avoid me or involving me in their hangouts and activities. 286 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: I went to a good college and got my first 287 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: job in the same city as Jane. My mom suggested 288 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: that I should contact James since I didn't know anyone there. 289 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: We became friends, and then three years later we got married. 290 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: We both have high paying jobs and love our life. 291 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: We moved back to our hometown during COVID as James's 292 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: mom had health issues and our jobs allowed us to 293 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: work remotely. Fran also had a pretty good life. She 294 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: married when she was twenty three and her husband was 295 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: pretty well off. Two years ago, Fran discovered that he 296 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 2: was cheating on her for almost the entire duration of 297 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: their marriage with multiple partners, and she decided to break 298 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 2: things off. Fran moved back with my mom and Fran 299 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: had not worked for the entire duration of their marriage 300 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: and was expecting to gain significant alimony from the divorce. However, 301 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: due to complications regarding the prenup, she barely got anything 302 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: and is struggling financially. 303 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: She got a. 304 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: Job, but is barely able to afford her own place 305 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: and continues living with my mom. James and I were 306 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: very supportive of her during the entire process. Since James 307 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: and Fran were friends growing up, they both have a 308 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: special bond. They've had their inside jokes and stories, and 309 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: sometimes I do feel like a third wheel when we're 310 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: all together. Ew However, James keeps his distance and has 311 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: never given me any reason to believe that he has 312 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: lingering feelings for Fran, on the other hand, constantly visits 313 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: us like two or three times a week and ends 314 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: up staying for dinner and sleeping in our guest room. 315 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: I don't mind her coming over, but I don't like 316 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: the fact that she talks more to James than with me. Also, 317 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: she always comes over when I'm not at home, and 318 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: I often find them sitting next to each other on 319 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: the sofa watching TV when I get home. It sort 320 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: of reminds me of my childhood, where I was locked 321 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: out of our basement when Fran had friends over and 322 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: I would feel left out. Fran is also too comfortable 323 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: around James and walks around. 324 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: The house in just a towel after her. 325 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: Shower when James is around, or sleeps in her underwear 326 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: in the guest room without locking the door. I have 327 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: voiced my concerns to her, but she says that we 328 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: are a family and she does not care. I've also 329 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: voiced my concerns to James, and he does make efforts 330 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: now to explain stories and inside jokes if Fran makes them. 331 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: The main issue happened this weekend. 332 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: I was hanging out with my mom and Fran last 333 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: weekend and Fran was recollecting stories about how James would 334 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: do her homework and do chores for her growing up. 335 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: She said he was so in love with me, and 336 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: I felt guilty taking advantage of him. My mom jokingly 337 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: said to her that I wish you had the wits 338 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: to marry James then your loser husband, and you would 339 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: have not been in this situation. Fran smiled after hearing 340 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: that and nodded, but I was hurt by that comment. 341 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: I protested to my mom that James is my husband 342 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: and I don't want her to make those kind of 343 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: comments about him. My mom doubled down and said that 344 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: she feels like it's fine because both James and I 345 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: are high earners while Fran is struggling financially. She kept 346 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: on saying that it was just hypothetical and that she 347 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: wants both of her daughters to be happy. 348 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: I did not like. 349 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: Those comments and told them to not speak like that 350 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: about James and my marriage in general. 351 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: Fran chimed in and. 352 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: Told me that I should not take the comments so 353 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: personally and I'm being too sensitive. However, I had a 354 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: fight with both of them about it and then I left. 355 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: So when I got home and told James, he also 356 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: sided with my mom and Fran and told me that 357 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: her mom was just making a harmless joke. I also 358 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: raised the issue of Fran's behavior around the house, and 359 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: he told me that this is between me and my 360 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: sister and he's not going to tell Fran what she 361 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: can or cannot wear in the house. However, I just 362 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: feel really bad because of this situation, and despite everyone 363 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: apologizing to me, things just don't feel right. 364 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: Am I wrong here in reacting the way I did? 365 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: Or does everyone else have a point and I should 366 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: just be more secure about my relationship with Jane. 367 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: Thank you everyone for all your support. 368 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: On my previous post to summarize what happened, my mom 369 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 2: made a really off putting comment that she wished my 370 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: sister Fran was married to my husband James. I got 371 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: really mad, and my husband also tried to undermine my 372 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: feelings and told me I was overreacting to a harmless joke. 373 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: Sorry for the. 374 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: Long post, but a lot of you were messaging me 375 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: for the update and wanted me to tell you what happened. 376 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: The comments made me very paranoid, and I did see 377 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: everyone's point that James may have just married me because 378 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: of his crush on Fran. This really shot up my 379 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: anxiety and I started snooping around. My husband literally makes 380 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: me check his phone for new messages when he is 381 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: not around, so I knew there was nothing to hide there. However, 382 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 2: I was spooked by how my sister always knows when 383 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: I'm not at home and why James and Fran are 384 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 2: always sitting on the same couch when I come home. 385 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: I tried talking to my husband and he told me 386 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: that my feelings were valid. However, he also said that 387 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: Fran is going through a tough time and refused to 388 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: say anything bad about my mom and Fran. Last time Friday, 389 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 2: I went to the gym as usual in the evening, 390 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 2: and when I came home, Fran was sitting in the 391 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 2: living room while James was cooking dinner. 392 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: I got a bit. 393 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: Angry and asked her what is she doing here. She 394 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 2: said she had no plans for the night and she 395 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: came to. 396 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: Hang out with us. 397 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 2: It really annoyed me, and I told her that I 398 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 2: wanted to spend a quiet weekend with my husband and 399 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 2: if she can come some other time. She could see 400 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 2: that I was upset, and she started saying how our 401 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: mom was just being silly and I need to let 402 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: it go since it was just a joke. I told 403 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: her I did not find it funny, and then we 404 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 2: got into a fight. 405 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: She said that I am always. 406 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: An insecure, annoying kid, and no wonder no one liked me. 407 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: It really hurt me, but James stepped in and told 408 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: Fran that she needs to leave. I have never seen 409 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 2: James be so forceful with Fran. Fran muttered some unpleasant 410 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: things to James and then left. I was in tears 411 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 2: by the end of the whole thing, and James was 412 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: consoling me. I was really upset and spent the night 413 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 2: in our room alone. In the morning, I prepared no 414 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: votes on all of the things that I wanted to ask. James, 415 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 2: your comments really helped me get my thoughts straight. I 416 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: know I was being very insecure, but after reading the comments, 417 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: I really started questioning if James really married me for 418 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 2: me or just because I was Fran's sister and look 419 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: like her. People called me dollar store Fran in high school. 420 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: H James and I had a long conversation and I 421 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: told him my anxieties and insecurities. 422 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: I told him how it makes. 423 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: Me feel that he spends so much time with Fran 424 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 2: when she visits us and they have their own little 425 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: inside jokes. I asked him if he still has feelings 426 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 2: for her. He was calm and smiling the whole time, 427 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: and he told me that he would tell me the truth, 428 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 2: but doesn't want me to hate him for it. Later, 429 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: he said that he knows Fran used him all through 430 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: their school days because she knew he liked her. When 431 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: he went to college, Franz still tried to keep in 432 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: touch with him, but putting distance between them made him 433 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: realize how badly she treated him, and he decided to 434 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: just cut contact with her so that he can work 435 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: on himself. That was the reason he rarely visited us 436 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: when he used to come for holidays and stopped being 437 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: friends with Fran. I told him that it bothered me 438 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: that he chose Fran before me and ignored me during 439 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: our childhood. That was the reason I always had that 440 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: doubt if I was his second choice. 441 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: He said that I was thirteen. 442 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 2: When he went to college, and if he would have 443 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: liked me instead of Fran at that age, we would 444 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: have been having a different problem. 445 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's right, you can't be doing that. 446 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: He told me that when I contacted him, he thought 447 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 2: that I must be like Fran and was not very 448 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: enthusiastic to meet me. However, after we hung out a 449 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 2: few times, he realized that I'm nothing like Fran and 450 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: we soon became close. 451 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: Then we started dating and we got married after a 452 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: few years. 453 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: He told me that Fran was married by then and 454 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: he saw that I always put Fran on the pedestal 455 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: and would get jealous when Fran posted vacation pictures of 456 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: the new, shiny things her husband bought for That was 457 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 2: the reason he never told me that he doesn't like 458 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: hanging around Fran, as he feels that for me, Fran 459 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: was always the north star. He told me that he 460 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: had always kept his distance from Fran and she was 461 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: a non issue since we would only meet her a 462 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: few times a year. However, after her divorce, he didn't 463 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: know how to act. He said that he was grateful 464 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 2: to me for uprooting our lives and moving back to 465 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: our hometown for his mom's health. He wanted to do 466 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 2: the same and take care of my family. When Fran 467 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,239 Speaker 2: got divorced, he supported her in every way that he 468 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 2: could for me, even though he realized it meant spending 469 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: a lot of time with her and listening to her 470 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 2: bring up all of the memories from high school that 471 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 2: he wants to forget. I told him it bothered me 472 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: that Fran came to our house as often as she does, 473 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: and generally in the evenings when I go to the gym. 474 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: He told me that he also finds it odd that 475 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 2: she knows my gym routine and always comes on evenings 476 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 2: when I'm not at home. However, he told me that 477 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 2: he has always kept his distance from her, and if 478 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: she did anything that would raise an alarm, he would 479 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,239 Speaker 2: have told me immediately. She just makes him watch all 480 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 2: the old movies or TV shows that they watched growing 481 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 2: up and gossips endlessly about their old high school friends. 482 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: He told me, I need to trust him, and if 483 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: I want him to be the bad guy and ask 484 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 2: Fran to not visit us often that he could do 485 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 2: that for me. He knows that I will eventually make 486 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: up with my mom and Fran and does not want 487 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: them to blame him for being mean to Fran. He 488 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 2: told me that he will not tell Fran what to 489 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: wear around the house, as it would be creepy if 490 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: it came from him. I felt that I got all 491 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: the assurance I needed from James, and I will never 492 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: doubt how amazing of a husband he has been, and 493 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: will never doubt how amazing you are when you join 494 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: us live on YouTube every weekday at three pm PST. 495 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 2: Just at our profile and you know, let's discuss where 496 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 2: we're at. 497 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: We got a little bit left. Keep this short, but 498 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: it was nice because you helped out with the mom. 499 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: He's like, oh, of course, I'll help out with the sister, 500 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: not understanding your complex history with the sister. Yeah. 501 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: He wasn't tapped into the dynamic that Op had with 502 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 2: her sister. Yeah, and he assumed that he was doing 503 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 2: something that would make him look better in Op's eyes, Yeah, 504 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: when really she was just like stopping out with the 505 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 2: sister that I don't even like. Also, the north Star 506 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: comment threw me off a little bit. Yeah, that threw 507 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 2: me off too. I don't know if that was just 508 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: raised funny. I think he was saying that he thought 509 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 2: that op looked up to her sister. 510 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: Got it, and like, so since Opie so that he 511 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: thought that OPI looked up to his sister, he thought 512 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: that in her vulnerable time, he should have been consoling her. 513 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: I don't really like that. I understand that OPI and 514 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: the sister were high school friends. I just think, well, 515 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: the sister should have she did in a sneaky kind 516 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: of way. She could have done it in a more 517 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: kind of like not sneaky way. What do you mean, 518 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: like like, oh, you're gone to the gym, I'll just 519 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: go hang out with your host. No yeah, yeah no. 520 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 2: The the timing and even like James, like the husband 521 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: is like, yeah, I thought it was. It's kind of 522 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: weird too that she keeps coming over when you're not here. 523 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 2: But I do believe. I believe him when he says 524 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: it's like if she ever tried anything weird, like I 525 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: would have let you know. 526 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: I'd let you know immediately. 527 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: And the sister was definitely the way that he also 528 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: like like kicked her out that, you know, after she 529 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: kind of crossed the line. Like, I think it's very 530 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: clear based on you know, he could have had her 531 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: back more when like the joke was made. 532 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: I just don't think he had full context because he 533 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: thought Op looked up to his sister. 534 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he still wasn't down. Yeah, he's just so like 535 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 2: not interested in Fran at all. Thank God that he's like, 536 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: we don't even need to care about that joke because 537 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: it's such a joke. 538 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: Would there's no universe where I'd be with that woman. 539 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: I would go, Dude, I wish we had wonder woman's 540 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: last soo of truth. I would wrap that around your 541 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: sister's around your sister's neck and be like, do you 542 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: want to my husband, That's what I would do. Do 543 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: you want to? And she'd be like yes, and God, 544 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: that's what I would do. 545 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 2: And then and then you could use that lass of 546 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: truth send her to the greatest truth of all the grave. 547 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: That's what I would do with I was a sister. Yeah, 548 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: maybe Op should find it and wrap it around and 549 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: her like wrist and ask her yeah maybe yeah, maybe 550 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: maybe just not go the full blown you know, we're out. 551 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: I would dude, I would be so livid, Like God, 552 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: that's what I would do. So let's let's finish this off. 553 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: My mom and Fran visited us on Sunday, and my 554 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 2: mom profusely apologized to me. 555 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: Let's go w Mom. 556 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: She told me that she doesn't want me to feel 557 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: bad for her comment and she would never wish anything 558 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: bad on my marriage. She meant to say that James 559 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: was a great guy and she hopes Fran can find 560 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: someone like him one day. Fran was a bit sour 561 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 2: but apologize to us for all of the name calling 562 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: on Friday and told us that it's just her hormones. 563 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: She said that she likes hanging out with her sister 564 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 2: and her best friend and hence comes to our house. 565 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 2: I told her that she's welcome to come anytime that 566 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: she wants, but to call ahead of time in case 567 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: James and I have plans for the evening, and she agreed. 568 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 2: I really want to move past this issue, but I 569 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: do want to put some firm boundaries on when Fran 570 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: can come over to our house and hang out with 571 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: James alone, as I know that. 572 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: This bothers him too. 573 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: Overall, I feel like things are good now and I'm 574 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: glad that my worst fears did not come true, but 575 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: I do feel I need some therapy. 576 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: In order to deal with my insecurities. 577 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 4: I like this update. This was a great ending. Perfect 578 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 4: I love this. Seldom do we find a perfect ending 579 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 4: to a story. Yeah, but I feel like this has 580 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 4: ended in the most perfect way it could have. 581 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, husband's on your side. Mom apologized, sister could have 582 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: been better. Sister is clearly not going to steal your husband. Yeah, 583 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: clearly not going to steal. And it also shows she's 584 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: still kind of like the villain and the story. She's like, sorry, 585 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: my hormones. 586 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, if anyone to keep an eye on her, 587 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: your sister needs some growing to do. 588 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. Overall, and you're taking care of yourself. You see 589 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: this psychological damage that your upbringing has given you, and 590 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: you're like, I need to change that too. I love this. 591 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: I love this. That's a ten out of ten. Nice job, Op. 592 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: I hope everything's going just wonderful for you right now 593 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 2: and your cool husband James. 594 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: This is probably my favorite story of the month. Hey, 595 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: it's Sam. 596 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to the stories, but here's three 597 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: minutes of bads from her sponsors. 598 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 3: I told my parents not to include my stepdaughter in 599 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 3: their will. My husband's furious with me, but he did 600 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 3: the same thing. Hypocrit I thirty five female, have two 601 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 3: kids seventeen. They're male and female twins, and one stepdaughter eighteen, 602 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: who I met when she was eleven. The other day, 603 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: I was at my parents' house going over some estate 604 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 3: planning as I am the executor. While reviewing, I saw 605 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: my folks had split their assets to be half for 606 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 3: my two siblings and I and the other half for 607 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 3: their grandkids, all to be distributed evenly. My stepdaughter was included. 608 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: When I asked them about this, they said they wanted 609 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 3: to be fair. Their estate isn't super large, but the 610 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 3: sum would be substantial. Think new car. By the way, 611 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: this comes from U slash Conscious Tension four nine to 612 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 3: one on the r slash Okay story Time to Sepreddit. 613 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 3: I told my parents that, while generous of them, I 614 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: didn't think it would be necessary and would be better 615 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: to split between their five grandkids. That's very generous, ever, 616 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 3: that's nice. When we got home, my husband said he 617 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: overheard what I said and that I was being an 618 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 3: a hole for alienating his daughter. I told him My 619 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 3: reasoning was because she is the only child, grandchild, niece 620 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 3: on both her parents' sides, and that she would set 621 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: her grandparents own multiple properties. Her uncles are fairly well 622 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: off and live in a hcol area, And well, she's 623 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 3: the only kid, and it's not looking like, at least 624 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 3: in his side, that she'll have any cousins. Plus their 625 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 3: collective net worth is substantially more than my side. I 626 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: also asked him if his parents included my kids in 627 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: their estate, but he refused to answer. Suspicious still, he 628 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 3: said I was being an a hole and accused me 629 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 3: of not caring about her future. I think I was 630 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 3: doing the right thing by looking out for my kids 631 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 3: and their cousins. Am I the a hole? 632 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: How old's daughter? The stepdaughter? 633 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 3: Stepdaughter is eighteen. There's still more to read? But what 634 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 3: do we think so far? 635 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: I say you are the a hole? 636 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: Edit. I was told to include this in the post. 637 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: Number one. I didn't argue with or pressure my parents 638 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: to make a change. I simply mentioned that I didn't 639 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 3: feel it was necessary for her to receive a monetary amount. 640 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 3: Number two my mom on giving her a set of 641 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: family heirloom jewelry that is her birthstone. I think this 642 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: is quite thoughtful. I am not a big jewelry person, 643 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 3: and she has other sets for the other girls in 644 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: the family, so I feel this is okay. 645 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: Trying to dig theirselves out a hole here. 646 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,239 Speaker 3: Number three. My parents have seen her about three to 647 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: five times a year since I met her. Number four, 648 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: my nephews and my kids do not have active relationships 649 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: with their biological father's sides. My niece is a new 650 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: mom and works at a restaurant. I feel that financial 651 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: inheritance would be more impactful for them, even as such 652 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 3: a small amount. Number five. I know my stepdaughter is 653 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: set to inherit at least two houses in a major 654 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 3: US city with hcool. I found this out a while 655 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: back after my husband asked me to help them organize 656 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: his office. I had to read through papers to know 657 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: how to file them accordingly. The paper was a certified 658 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 3: copy and was drafted soon after we were married. My 659 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 3: kids were not included. I am not sure if it 660 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 3: has been updated. I did not ask him about it 661 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 3: at the time because I did not have an issue 662 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 3: with it. Number six. There is a distance in the relationship, 663 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 3: but I don't feel it's my fault. I can explain this. 664 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: When I met her mom for the first time, she 665 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 3: made it very clear that I wasn't her mom. I 666 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 3: didn't see this as an issue because I didn't want 667 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 3: to overstep as a mom myself, and I could see 668 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 3: where she was coming from and respected her request. But 669 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 3: as time progressed, our opportunity to spend time together became 670 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 3: less frequent. At first, my husband had every other weekend visitation. 671 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 3: It became less frequent as she became a teenager because 672 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 3: she wanted to spend the night with friends and hang out, etc. 673 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 3: Which I see as normal teenager behavior. The other piece 674 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: is that we were never invited to be included in 675 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 3: major celebrations for her. We usually celebrated birthdays with her 676 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 3: a week after because we weren't invited. My husband was 677 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 3: just not us. So she's also never spent Thanksgiving or 678 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 3: Christmas with us because her mom wanted those days again, 679 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 3: which I saw was fine because that's her only child. 680 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: My husband would spend holidays with her at her mom's house, 681 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 3: which I encourage because I knew the importance of father 682 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: daughter connections. We also were not invited to her high 683 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 3: school graduation. I think she's a beautiful and brilliant young woman, 684 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 3: and I care for her tremendously, but it's challenging to 685 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 3: develop deep, meaningful relationships with people you have little contact with, 686 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 3: and for people putting me in the category of the 687 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 3: evil stepmother saying that I see her as other, don't 688 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: think that I haven't been trying since the beginning. I 689 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: include her in every way I can in the times 690 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: that she is with us, by doing things like teaching 691 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 3: her family recipes, taking her shopping for clothes so that 692 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 3: she doesn't have to bring things back and forth, and 693 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 3: attending every school athletic event that I could. I have 694 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 3: tried to include her in my family vacation planning, but 695 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 3: was told by her mother that unless the vacation occurred 696 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 3: on a weekend we're scheduled to have time with her, 697 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: then she would not allow us to have the time. 698 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: This limited our options to local weekend trips, but even 699 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 3: then her mom comes up with some reason she can't join, 700 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,479 Speaker 3: including surprise trips to another state. I even suggested a 701 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 3: family cruise in lieu of a honeymoon to celebrate our 702 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 3: new family, but was blocked by her mom. My husband 703 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 3: is allowed to take her on extended vacations. As long 704 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: as it's just the two of them. Okay, there's still more, 705 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 3: but it's kind of sounding like it's the mom that 706 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 3: has the issue now, not the girl. So before I 707 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 3: was thinking it's the eighteen year old like not wanting 708 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: anything to do with her stepmom, but sounds pretty clearly 709 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: like the original mom. She's gone the shots. She wants 710 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 3: to take control of the situation. She does not want 711 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 3: the stepmom involved at all. 712 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: Yikes, because when did they get together? Hold was a stepdaughter? 713 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 3: Do you think eleven years? Those are some pretty formative 714 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: years in your life that you're with them, And I 715 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: think that that's okay to have that connection. I feel like, 716 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 3: especially if this stepmom has been trying like so hard 717 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 3: to like make an effort and to be there for 718 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 3: this stepdaughter and to be as much of a good 719 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 3: mom as she can, then like, I think there's just 720 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 3: really no problem. I've tried to be flexible in accommodations 721 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 3: around holidays by postponing things like Christmas Morning so that 722 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 3: she can be included. This created frustration in my kids 723 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 3: because they felt like they shouldn't have to put their 724 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 3: lives aside to accommodate for her. One year when the 725 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 3: holiday occurred on one of our planned weekends, I came 726 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 3: up with a suggestion of celebrating Christmas on Christmas Eve 727 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 3: so we could do the full family thing. My kids 728 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: weren't thrilled, but they understood. In the end, we didn't 729 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 3: end up spending any time with her, as her mom 730 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 3: told us that she planned on having a dinner party 731 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 3: on Christmas Eve and needed my stepdaughter to help her prepare. 732 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 3: That seems like a BS excuse. That's crazy. 733 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: This is really frustrating. 734 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 3: When the time came for college applications, I was ecstatic 735 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 3: to be asked by my stepdaughter to help her with 736 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 3: the applications, but soon after it was told that her 737 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 3: mom hired a professional to help her get into her 738 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 3: top choice of school, and I was no longer needed. 739 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: It's nice. It just seems every time you try to 740 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: step in to be any sort of mother figure for 741 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: this child, the mom. 742 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 3: Is like, Nope, get out of there. Can't be having 743 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 3: that exactly, that's not fun because especially like if this 744 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 3: stepdaughter was excited to tell the stepmom about this, Like 745 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 3: the stepdaughter seems like she really wants to have that relationship, 746 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 3: but her og mom isn't having it at all. I 747 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 3: wonder if anything similar happened in like the OG parents relationship, 748 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 3: you know, Like, I wonder if any of this has 749 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 3: something to do with why they got divorced in the 750 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 3: first place, if she's like controlling or something like that. 751 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 3: I have tried to have a bond with her with 752 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 3: the little time that I have. I have consistently brought 753 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 3: up to my husband that I feel like we needed 754 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 3: more time with her to help build a relationship, at 755 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 3: the very least by him maintaining his every other weekend schedule. 756 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 3: He has told me that ultimately, her mom is her mom, 757 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 3: and she determines her schedule and how she spends her time. 758 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 3: He has also expressed that he fears that if he 759 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 3: undermines her mom, then he might lose the time in 760 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 3: relationship that he does have with her, and I do 761 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 3: not want to be the reason for any sort of 762 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 3: break in their relationship. His time and relationship with her 763 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 3: hasn't changed, so maybe he doesn't see the need for 764 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 3: me and my kids to be involved. But if he 765 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 3: doesn't advocate for us, then what am I supposed to do? 766 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 3: There is another update that was posted the next day 767 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 3: after that one. What are we thinking what is she 768 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 3: supposed to do? 769 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: Well, she can't do anything. This isn't her will, and 770 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, is she getting this money right now? 771 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: But like the grandparents have a died, so she's not 772 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: getting anything right now. If I was the grandparents and 773 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 1: I felt this way, and I felt every single thing 774 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: Opie was feeling, I would be like, Okay, she's eighteen now, 775 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: she can now make her decisions. She is being influenced 776 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: by a parent, but she has decisions to see her 777 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: dad and to see her family now. If she seems 778 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,760 Speaker 1: like she's more leaning towards the family, I would consider 779 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: giving her a part of the will, But I understand 780 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: that it's not really been her choice this whole time. 781 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: And if she decides to like stay on the mom's 782 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: side and not like really be a part of this 783 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: family just visit here and there, I don't know if 784 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: I would like give her that much. 785 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 3: What do you think she's supposed to do about like 786 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 3: just them spending time with the stepdaughter at all. It 787 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 3: seems like the og mom really just isn't wanting any 788 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 3: of that to happen. I think the dad is worried 789 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 3: about that too. 790 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tricky because I'm afraid the mom doesn't want 791 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,959 Speaker 1: to be replaced as a mom. 792 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, but I mean she knows that 793 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 3: she won't be I. 794 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: Want to know who divorced to in the divorce and why. 795 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: I feel like that would give more context of like 796 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: the dad was a bad dad or the mom was 797 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: a bad mom, because it seems like just from this 798 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: one perspective, the mom is a bad mom. She's very controlling, 799 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: and this is what's going on. 800 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 3: Then it's interesting though, because it seems like they just 801 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 3: get her on the weekends every other weekend, so it 802 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 3: seems like the mom has some majority custody, which is interesting. 803 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 3: That's just a really tough situation, and it does because 804 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 3: Opie really is not in a position of power in this. 805 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 3: But there is an update that was made the next day, 806 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 3: so let's see major update. I haven't had the opportunity 807 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 3: to have a discussion with my husband about all this, 808 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 3: as I was waiting to speak with my therapist to 809 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 3: get advice on the best way to approach the conversation. However, 810 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 3: I did receive a phone call this morning from my 811 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 3: father in law, who I see as an absolute angel 812 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 3: of a man. Apparently my husband told his mom about 813 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 3: our arrangement, and my mother in law went off, and 814 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 3: this is how my father in law found out about it. 815 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 3: The father in law asked me what my side of 816 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 3: the story was, and I very am emotionally told him 817 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 3: everything as I listed in the op. I told him 818 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 3: it was not my intention to alienate the stepdaughter in 819 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 3: any way, and that this whole thing has created a nightmare. 820 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 3: After a deep breath and a slight pause, my father 821 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 3: in law said, I did the right thing. A few 822 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 3: years ago, my father in law suffered a series of strokes. 823 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 3: He said that this has prompted him to want to 824 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 3: reevaluate the estate to make sure that everything was in order. 825 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 3: He is quite old, close to ninety, and has a 826 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 3: lot of underlying health issues. He and my mother in 827 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 3: law share all of their assets, and she is also 828 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 3: in his poa in case anything happens, and because they 829 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 3: have a family trust, he wanted to include her and 830 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 3: his son in this discussion. He told me that he 831 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 3: brought up that he wanted to include my children in 832 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 3: the family trust. He told me he proposed to allow 833 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 3: for ten percent of the trust's liquid assets to be 834 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 3: split between my two two kids to help get a 835 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 3: start on life. That's so nice. He then said that 836 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 3: my mother in law pushed back very hard, saying that 837 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 3: because my children were not biologically related to their family, 838 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 3: then they should not be considered. When he asked my 839 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 3: husband his thoughts on it, my father in law said 840 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 3: my husband's response was that it would be best to 841 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 3: keep it in family, but that he would consider including 842 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 3: us in his portion upon his passing if he and 843 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 3: I were still together. The father in law said that 844 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 3: this was a surprise because at that point we were 845 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 3: still basically in newlyweds and was surprised a new husband 846 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,320 Speaker 3: would even think that way. My mother in law's response 847 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 3: to that was unhappy, saying again we weren't blood and 848 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 3: that this was a family issue. Because of the stress 849 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 3: caused by the situation, and because of the recent strokes, 850 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 3: father in law did not want to press things any further. Yeah, 851 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 3: that's probably the safest thing for whom father in law said. Afterwards, 852 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 3: he pulled my husband aside to find out more about 853 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 3: what he had meant and to be assured that Mike 854 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 3: kids would be included, and was basically told by my 855 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,280 Speaker 3: husband he would do what was best for his family, 856 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,879 Speaker 3: and the conversation dropped. Now. The father in law said 857 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 3: that he didn't push any further at this point because 858 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 3: he was getting tired from the conversation, but in light 859 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 3: of what was happening and how my mother in law 860 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 3: and husband are responding behind closed doors, he felt it 861 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 3: was necessary to let me know. I'm so glad that 862 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 3: the father in law is like n Op's corner. It's 863 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 3: so like relieving to have someone else like that. He 864 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 3: said that the stepdaughter is set to be more than 865 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 3: okay when it comes time, and that my husband has 866 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 3: asked to tap into funds to pay for her college 867 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 3: so she would not need to take out any loans, 868 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,720 Speaker 3: which he agreed to. He said he asked my husband 869 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 3: if he would do the same for my kids, and 870 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 3: that my husband's response was that he would ask when 871 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 3: the time came, as my kids did not know yet 872 00:40:54,640 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 3: what was going to happen regarding college missions. Interesting. Interesting, 873 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 3: he's just being like way more protective and like hesitant 874 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 3: when it comes to his stepkids. Crazy crazy father in 875 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 3: law asked me if my husband and I had this conversation. 876 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 3: I told them that my husband and I discussions about 877 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 3: my kids' school was that they would need to take 878 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 3: out loans finish college, and then we would help pay 879 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 3: off half the loans together once they graduated. My husband 880 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,959 Speaker 3: has never suggested that anything for my kids college would 881 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 3: be paid for through his family trust. My father in 882 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 3: law was very apologetic. 883 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, dude, because she has. 884 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 3: Two stepkids, right, yeah, so it's like only one out 885 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 3: of three of the kids is being cared for, saying 886 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 3: he should have pushed further as he loves us greatly 887 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 3: and feels like he did not do enough. I told 888 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 3: him it was not his fault and that he should 889 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 3: not feel responsible for any of this, and that I 890 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 3: did not want him to feel obligated to make any 891 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 3: changes or bring it up with the mother in law 892 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 3: and husband, because I knew it would create additional stress 893 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 3: for him, and I wanted him to take care of 894 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 3: his peace. I just love their dynamics so much. I 895 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 3: love these two favorite characters. He said, though his desire 896 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 3: would be to do so, that since his wife and 897 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 3: he have a joint in estate and that she is 898 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 3: power of attorney, that he felt like it would be 899 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 3: more trouble than it's worth. He is blind and has 900 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 3: a lot of mobility issues, so anything he does, he 901 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 3: is dependent on her. He also said that based on 902 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 3: what he's heard on his side, he felt if he 903 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 3: did update his will, then they would likely contest it, 904 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 3: which would create a financial burden on my end, and 905 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 3: he didn't want to create a negative situation. I told 906 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 3: him again that it was okay and that we would 907 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 3: be okay in life, and that he is not responsible 908 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 3: for anything that happened. I told him that my intention 909 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 3: wasn't to be added to the trust, just to make 910 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 3: a point to my husband, to which he said he 911 00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 3: understood and agreed. He apologized again. We told each other 912 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 3: how much we loved one another, and he ended the 913 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 3: call saying he considered me a person of integrity, which 914 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 3: is a rare gem. 915 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: Wow. And that's so tough that he can't do anything 916 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: because people will be like, oh, he's olden, senile. He 917 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it exactly. 918 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 3: But you know how you can be a rare Gems 919 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 3: by joining us live on YouTube every weekday at three 920 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 3: pm PSD. Just tap our profile. That's all it takes. 921 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 3: Now that I have this information, I feel like this 922 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 3: whole situation brought to light a lot of things I 923 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 3: hadn't considered regarding my marriage. Also, writing out everything regarding 924 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 3: how my husband navigated his relationship with his daughter slash 925 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 3: ex wife really put things into perspective that makes me 926 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 3: feel like we were never a priority to him. I'm 927 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 3: not sure where to go from here. I plan to 928 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 3: bring all this up with my therapist and talk it 929 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 3: out to figure out what I should do. But I 930 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 3: no longer feel like the a hole for advocating for 931 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 3: my biological family because my husband and his side have 932 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 3: been advocating for theirs. Father in law excluded and that 933 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 3: is the end of the story. But that's a good point. 934 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 3: That's interesting to me that because that reminds me again 935 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 3: of in the beginning when they were all like, hey, 936 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 3: why are you not wanting to like include the stepdaughter 937 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 3: in their will? Like, wasn't it a big issue? It 938 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 3: was like a little sketchy to them, and we were 939 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 3: called her the a whole at. 940 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: The beginning, But after getting all this context, yeah. 941 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 3: I don't think it is at all, because I mean, 942 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 3: apparently blood family is the most important here, and the. 943 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: Father in law would do something about it and would 944 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: change it. It just would bring rain and fire to 945 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: your children. 946 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think, like, if the father in law 947 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 3: never actually changes it, then like, ope, he should keep 948 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,399 Speaker 3: it that way where the stepdaughter doesn't get anything from 949 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 3: her parents. But if the father in law is able 950 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 3: to change it, then like sure, I don't know. I 951 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 3: think it would be a very polite thing to do 952 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 3: to like, well, even if you guys aren't gonna include us, 953 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 3: we're gonna include you, you know. I think that's a 954 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 3: very polite thing to do. However, it does make it 955 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 3: more difficult when her side of the family really doesn't 956 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 3: have as much as the other side. 957 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: I just found out my mom stole three hundred dollars 958 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: worth of my wedding gifts five years later. Oh boy, 959 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: hey everyone, longtime Alurker, first time poster. So I hope 960 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: this flow's all right. So, like my title says, I 961 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: just found out my mom may have stolen three hundred 962 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 1: dollars worth of presents from me. A little background. My 963 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: grandmother lives in another state. She's a literal saint and 964 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 1: she gives that expecting anything back, and is really a 965 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: person you need to protect at all costs because of 966 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,439 Speaker 1: how sweet she is. Her and my grandfather were the 967 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 1: only people who sent us money for our wedding. We 968 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: didn't expect anyone to help pay for it. By the way, 969 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,280 Speaker 1: this comes from sweaty letter on the arsash Okay storytime separated, 970 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 1: so he wanted to pay for our wedding, so no 971 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: one could have a say because unfortunately, my husband and 972 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: I both have very controlling needs to the main character mom's, 973 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 1: and she wasn't sure if she was going to be 974 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: able to make it to my bridle shower. We'll come 975 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: back to that in a moment. But she was able 976 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: to and got me this beautiful dish set that was 977 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: exactly what I wanted. This morning, I got a text, 978 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: good morning, I'd like to talk to you soon, please, 979 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,879 Speaker 1: and I let her know. Of course I'd love to talk. 980 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 1: I always loved talking to her, but something fell off. 981 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: She calls me about two hours ago and starts talking 982 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: about how long my husband and I have been married. 983 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: We are about to celebrate our five years. Congrats, and 984 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 1: she says, speaking of five years ago, your grandfather and 985 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: I came to see everyone after Christmas, and you and 986 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: your hubby weren't able to make it. So I had 987 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 1: given your mom a bunch of gifts for you, and 988 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 1: so let her know this was for your bridle shower, 989 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 1: since I wasn't sure if I was going to be 990 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: able to make it. I honestly did make it to 991 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: your bridle shower, and you got the dish set you wanted. 992 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: Well about six months to a year ago, when I 993 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: was up visiting you and was talking with you and 994 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: your mom, I asked you did you get all those 995 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 1: gifts I got you? And you said, what gifts? And 996 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: your mom said, I'll tell you about it later. And 997 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: now I'm pissed off, wondering if you've even gotten any 998 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: of it. WHOA, The mom put a little. 999 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 3: Right, she said, we have gifts at home. And then 1000 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 3: it's like when your mom says that you can have 1001 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 3: McDonald's on the way back from wherever you're going, and 1002 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 3: then you are on your way back and then you 1003 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,720 Speaker 3: see her just slowly drive past McDonald's, like weave a second, 1004 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 3: but did she say, and then you don't get McDonald's that. 1005 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: Day, Or if your grandparents give you like some money 1006 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: in a gift card and then she takes it and 1007 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 1: puts it in your savings account, Yeah, it feels like that. 1008 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 1: It's like I could like buy one hundred dollars worth 1009 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: of play blades, Mom, but you won't let me please Mom. 1010 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: No On pissed once I found out it's like three 1011 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 1: hundred dollars worth of stuff. 1012 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 3: That's a lot. 1013 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,280 Speaker 1: It's been five years ago, so how can I really 1014 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: tell what is from her or not showed me? She 1015 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: had a list and the brand. I let her know 1016 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: i'd go home and look through my kitchen stuff. When 1017 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: she says the most heartbreaking thing, I'll never expect to 1018 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: thank you for anything I do. And I knew you 1019 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,240 Speaker 1: were going to do a lot with planning your wedding 1020 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But when I didn't get a 1021 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,240 Speaker 1: thank you, I was surprised, and that's why I asked 1022 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 1: she was looking for a thank you the grandmother. 1023 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 3: The grandma was looking for a thank you. 1024 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: Thank you for all the gifts that she gave her. 1025 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 3: So the grandma was looking for a thank you and 1026 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 3: didn't get one, but wasn't gonna. 1027 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: Like ask, like, oh, you're super busy, understand. 1028 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 3: Five years later she brings it up. Turns out that 1029 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,880 Speaker 3: hope he didn't even get the gifts in the first place. 1030 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: I told her that if I've never thank you to 1031 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,720 Speaker 1: a gift, she's given me. Then I am truly sorry 1032 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,280 Speaker 1: because she helped me out so much in my life 1033 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: and I'm truly grateful for her. She told me, talking 1034 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,439 Speaker 1: to you makes everything better. And we told each other 1035 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: we love you and miss you, and that was the 1036 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 1: end of the conversation. Got a little bit and then 1037 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 1: we got an update coming up. Oh my gosh. So 1038 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: now I have the list and I'm going to look 1039 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 1: at it at my home and all my stuff. But 1040 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: the advice I need is what should I do if 1041 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 1: I am missing things? Do I confront my mom? Or 1042 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 1: do I let my grandmother confront mom? 1043 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 3: So what's the list? 1044 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 1: The grandma gave all the things that grandma was giving 1045 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:37,839 Speaker 1: to her, so all of. 1046 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 3: These gifts were just Grandma's gifts. 1047 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: The three hundred dollars stuff missing, she never got to 1048 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: thank you and was like, did you ever get it? 1049 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 3: I was thinking this was like multiple people's gifts. Well, 1050 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 3: good thing they've got like this list of seeing what 1051 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 3: they're missing, or like a receipt a gift receipt of 1052 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 3: just their actual gifts. 1053 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: Should I let it go? Because it's been five years, 1054 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. Also, I wouldn't be 1055 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: surprised if my mom stole it, we gifted it or 1056 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: did something with it. My grandma sent my husband and 1057 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,720 Speaker 1: I'm matching perfume and cologne, and my mom only gave 1058 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 1: me the colone and said she couldn't find the perfume. 1059 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: Plus there's a lot more I could get into that 1060 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,839 Speaker 1: would take a lot to post. And thank god, I've 1061 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,720 Speaker 1: gone to therapy for my childhood, so she has history 1062 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: of doing stuff like this. 1063 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 3: So the mom just took the perfume and was just like, oh, 1064 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 3: I just can't find it. Oh, I just can't find 1065 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 3: it anyway, Sorry, where else would it be if you 1066 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 3: didn't touch it? Where else would it be if it 1067 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 3: wasn't in the box? On the mom? 1068 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: It was an update. Do you think the mom stolen? Absolutely, 1069 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 1: she's the prime suspect here, I suspect. 1070 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 3: Take her a jill, take her away. 1071 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, I'm going to start by answering some questions 1072 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: and clearing up some things, and then I'll get into 1073 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 1: the update. A lot of people asked why my grandma 1074 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 1: didn't give them to me directly. She lives out of 1075 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: state and they were for my bridle shower and she 1076 00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 1: wasn't sure if she was gonna be able to make 1077 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,439 Speaker 1: it and gave them to my mom and to give 1078 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,240 Speaker 1: to me as a surprise. Also, she's a literal saint, 1079 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: so like she's very considerate in all way, shapes and forms. 1080 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,720 Speaker 3: We love and protect the Grandma. 1081 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: That last part, but I thought, Grandma is not Mom's mom, 1082 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 1: she's Grandma on my dad's side. 1083 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 3: Makes sense why the santity did not, you know, get 1084 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 3: passed on. 1085 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 1: Grandma bought this stuff five years ago, so she doesn't 1086 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 1: exactly remember everything and doesn't have the receipts. Also, a 1087 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: lot of you asked if my mom has done shady 1088 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: stuff like this before. To my knowledge, she hasn't stolen 1089 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 1: anything before from me or from anyone for whom she 1090 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: could have kept. But she also could have had very 1091 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 1: well loss to do. A very disorganized. 1092 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,359 Speaker 3: House seems a little fishy to me. 1093 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: I have a very interesting relationship with my mom. I 1094 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 1: don't really see her too much. I talk on the 1095 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: phone with her maybe once or twice a week now. 1096 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: Might take another post to get into all that the updates. 1097 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 1: So when I got home last night, I started going 1098 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: through my stuff and the list. I found about four 1099 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: to five gifts that were on the list, not all 1100 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,319 Speaker 1: equaling to the full three hundred dollars. Grandma was so 1101 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 1: happy to see at least got some of the gifts. 1102 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,919 Speaker 1: She now will send anything directly to me. By the way, 1103 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 1: you can directly see us every weekday at three PMPST. 1104 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 1: Just tap a profile. I got a little bit more here. 1105 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 3: Any thoughts, I think we exactly know where that perfume is. 1106 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,240 Speaker 3: I think it's interesting that they don't have a history 1107 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 3: of the mom like stealing things in the past. It's 1108 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 3: kind of interesting, like it seems like theyre is still 1109 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 3: history with her. It's still that stuff in the childhood 1110 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 3: that she had to work through in therapy, but none 1111 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 3: of it involved stealing, which is interesting to me. 1112 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 1113 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,359 Speaker 3: Let's finish it out. 1114 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: A lot of you want me to confront my mom, 1115 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,320 Speaker 1: but I'm unfortunately not going to. Grandma doesn't want to 1116 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: start any problems and just wants to keep the peace. 1117 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 1: I usually have no and calling my mom out on 1118 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 1: her bs and if this was just between her and 1119 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:09,320 Speaker 1: I I would one percent press her, But since Grandma 1120 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 1: has asked me not to start any problems, I will 1121 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 1: respect her wishes. She truly is the sweetest lady and 1122 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 1: deserves the world. 1123 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 3: Ah, Grandma just doesn't want any problems and since and 1124 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 3: I think probably because of her involvement in it. Like 1125 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 3: I wonder if this was someone else, I wonder if 1126 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 3: the grandma would like care if they started, like got 1127 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,839 Speaker 3: into it or not. But I think because the grandma, 1128 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,720 Speaker 3: it was like the grandma's presence, she probably just doesn't 1129 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 3: want to be involved at all if something like went 1130 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,959 Speaker 3: over to her, which makes sense, which makes sense. 1131 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: And my husband, I think either my mom kept them 1132 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 1: to a gift to other people or kept thing for herself. 1133 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 1: My mom was the kind of mother who gets jealous 1134 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 1: of her daughters and wants to live vicariously through them. Sorry, 1135 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 1: if this wasn't some bad butt, I confronted my mom 1136 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: and justice update. I gotta respect grandma's wishes. Thank you 1137 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: for everyone who gave advice in sharing her stories. If 1138 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 1: you have any more questions, I can answer them in 1139 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,720 Speaker 1: the comments edit the gifts I found, I do remember 1140 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: my mom giving them to me. I just don't remember 1141 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: if she said they were from my grandma and grandpa 1142 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 1: and what they were for. I found maybe four maybe 1143 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 1: five out of the nineteen Grandma listed five out of 1144 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: the nineteen. 1145 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, whoa wild What do you think should 1146 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:31,399 Speaker 3: do with them? 1147 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 1: Dude? eBay, bro pawn shop. 1148 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 3: Ebe pawnshop, regifting. 1149 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 1: Or added them to her house hoarder collection. 1150 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, keeping them for herself. Those are our options. That 1151 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 3: really does sting because her sweet little grandma. I would 1152 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 3: love to see my sweet little grandma got me. It's 1153 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 3: justly if it's a list of nineteen things, like, that's 1154 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 3: a lot. That's a lot of things. So that's just 1155 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,719 Speaker 3: really like upsetting. I would be so disappointed, like if 1156 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 3: I was ope selfishly because I want that stuff, but 1157 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 3: also two because like disappointed that my grandma didn't get 1158 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,360 Speaker 3: that joy that you get when you give someone something 1159 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,400 Speaker 3: that they need or that they want. You know, she 1160 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,319 Speaker 3: wants us to thank you, and she won't get that 1161 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 3: because people on eBay don't say thank you. 1162 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: Hey, it's sam. We get back to the stories. But 1163 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,320 Speaker 1: here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors. 1164 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,760 Speaker 3: My brother's girlfriend doesn't respect our family and now she's 1165 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:25,799 Speaker 3: living with us. 1166 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, it's a little close to home, doesn't. 1167 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 3: It for context to My brother and I live with 1168 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,240 Speaker 3: our parents. Seventy five female and seventy six male. 1169 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's crazy. 1170 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,280 Speaker 3: The whole family is in one house. We weren't financially 1171 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 3: stable enough to live on our own as young adults, 1172 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 3: so we both stayed home as a Filipino household. This 1173 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,320 Speaker 3: is pretty normal. I've been ready to leave for the 1174 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 3: past couple of years, but our parents have reached an 1175 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 3: age where they need help around the house. We pay 1176 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 3: the bills and do any heavy housework. By the way, 1177 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 3: this comes from you slash lost seventy one oh six 1178 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,760 Speaker 3: on the r slash Okay storytime Supreddit. 1179 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 1: So it's not an American family. 1180 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,319 Speaker 3: Not an American family? Well, I mean, yeah, we don't know. 1181 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 3: They might be in America, but it's just Filipino. 1182 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, sorry. If I just heard that, I'd be like, Yo, 1183 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,959 Speaker 1: something's not adding up here. Someone needs to move help. 1184 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, me too. Our family lives in a 1185 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,240 Speaker 3: small two and a half story house with a basement. 1186 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,240 Speaker 3: It's a small house, two bedrooms, two bathrooms. My parents 1187 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 3: take up a bedroom each. My father has a lot 1188 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 3: of medical equipment and my mother prefers to have her 1189 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 3: own space. My brother has been in the basement and 1190 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 3: I have got a bed tucked away upstairs. It's a 1191 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 3: tight fit for four adults. Enter the girlfriend. It's twenty twenty, 1192 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 3: pre pandemic. My brother is seeing people again. Years after 1193 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 3: his breakup with his first girlfriend from high school. He 1194 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 3: had been bringing home girls late at night, and his 1195 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 3: current girlfriend was one of them. 1196 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: Ooh, and your parents let you get away with that. 1197 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: That's crazy, I guess. 1198 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 3: So at the beginning I was pretty neutral about her. 1199 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 3: My brother would come home late and she'd tag along 1200 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,359 Speaker 3: and spend the night, no introduction, just walked in and 1201 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 3: went straight to the basement with my brother. Cool a 1202 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:16,400 Speaker 3: situationship whatever. Right then the pandemic started. We didn't see 1203 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 3: her for a while, but then she caught COVID. This 1204 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 3: is about when I stopped feeling neutral about her. Instead 1205 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 3: of isolating at home, she came to our house. 1206 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 1: You can come when you don't have COVID, but when 1207 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 1: you have it you can't. 1208 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 3: Obviously, with elderly parents, this was not okay. My brother 1209 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 3: was forced to get her hotel room while she recovered 1210 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 3: from COVID. After recovering, she started coming over for days 1211 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 3: at a time. I would start seeing her eat meals 1212 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 3: in our dining table, meal prepping in our kitchen, her 1213 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 3: leftovers would be in our fridge, her laundry hanging in 1214 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 3: our basement. All of this would be fine if she 1215 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 3: was a contributing member of the household, except she isn't. 1216 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 3: When she's in the kitchen or dining room, she's in 1217 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 3: there by herself because no one wants to spend time 1218 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 3: with her like that. I don't know about you, guys, 1219 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 3: but the kitchen and dining room i e. Cooking and 1220 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 3: sharing food are very intimate family thanks. And it's not 1221 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 3: just taking up space. She also leaves stuff everywhere, dirty 1222 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 3: dishes in the sink in the basement, hair collecting on 1223 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 3: the shower wall, her makeup caking the shower curtain slowly 1224 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 3: over time. How does that happen? How much makeup you 1225 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 3: gotta be wearing for it to be on the shower curtain. 1226 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 3: The wet floor after she's showered, so wet that the 1227 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 3: floor towel is always soaked through. Her cheap clothes thrown 1228 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 3: about in our entryway. I tried talking to my parents 1229 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,760 Speaker 3: about what the heck is happening? Why is this person 1230 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,200 Speaker 3: staying in our house? Why aren't we saying anything? Why 1231 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 3: are we finding ourselves cleaning up after her? These are 1232 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 3: all very good questions. Ope, nothing was gained from this conversation, 1233 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 3: but I did confirm that neither my brother nor her 1234 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 3: have bothered to discuss with them about staying in our home. 1235 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 3: Fast forward to twenty twenty four today, I've felt no 1236 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 3: peace in my home since she started squatting in it. 1237 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 3: I genuinely hate this person. I hate that I spend 1238 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 3: my weekend sleeping in only to wake up to the 1239 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 3: smell of her food cooking in the kitchen. I literally 1240 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 3: just waited two hours for her to finish cooking lunch 1241 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 3: so I could get access to the kitchen appliances. I 1242 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 3: forgot to mention that she only cooks for herself and my. 1243 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 1: Brother takes care of her and her own. 1244 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 3: While using others' stuff. Since she's come here, she's continued 1245 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 3: to overstep her stay by inviting friends over late at 1246 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 3: night to pregame. She's also straight up baby sut few 1247 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 3: kids in our house. You can't imagine the surprise of 1248 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,080 Speaker 3: my parents when they see these random kids. They don't 1249 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 3: have the heart to turn the kids away at this point, 1250 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 3: they've already been dropped off. Mind you, She's not much 1251 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 3: of a babysitter either. She just props the ca in 1252 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 3: front of a tablet and tells them to be quiet 1253 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 3: when they're making a fuss. I've tried the empathy route. 1254 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 3: Her parents weren't together. She's the middle child or in 1255 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 3: the younger half of several siblings, all girls. I don't 1256 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 3: even think her mom was in the picture much either, 1257 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 3: mostly raised by her grandmother. From what I understand, most 1258 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,439 Speaker 3: of her siblings still live with the grandmother. She's too 1259 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 3: scared to take public transit or to try and get 1260 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 3: her driver's license. Currently, she's a part time server at 1261 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,440 Speaker 3: a bar slash restaurant, not making much. 1262 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 1: Oh, well, she just tried babysitting more, I guess so. 1263 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 3: After two years of sharing home with her mainly bathroom 1264 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,439 Speaker 3: and kitchen, it's clear that no one raised her right 1265 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,920 Speaker 3: and she experienced a lot of neglect at best. She's 1266 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 3: so traumatized by her upbringing. She's just an empty shell 1267 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 3: of a person that needs love and care. My family 1268 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 3: is not a recovery home, especially when all this girl 1269 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 3: does is take up space and rot in the basement. 1270 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 3: Sometimes she comes to family parties and she'll be smiley 1271 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 3: and make nice, but that's not the real herb. She 1272 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 3: lies constantly about small things, and when she gets caught 1273 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 3: or when she's wrong, she becomes silent and has nothing 1274 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 3: to say. She's toxic to my brother when they think 1275 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 3: they're in private, calling him names to make him feel 1276 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 3: or even hitting him. The only time I've heard excitement 1277 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 3: or interest in her voice is when she's gossiping about 1278 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 3: someone else, and with that same mouth, she'll get defensive 1279 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 3: and offended when people bring up her past. I have 1280 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 3: no idea what her past is, so no tea about that. 1281 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,480 Speaker 3: The thing is, I don't think anyone cares for his person. 1282 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 3: No one cares enough for this girl to say, Hey, 1283 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 3: what the heck are you doing being a bum in 1284 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 3: a stranger's basement. I could say it, but I'm done 1285 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,360 Speaker 3: with this girl. I'm not the one for her. The 1286 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,440 Speaker 3: only way I'll respect her is if or when she leaves. 1287 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 3: My parents have just accepted that she's part of the 1288 01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 3: house now. I don't understand why, after two two years, 1289 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 3: my brother's girlfriend hasn't even tried to get close to 1290 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,680 Speaker 3: our parents. She comes and leaves the house as she pleases, 1291 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 3: even coming home late into the night without a word 1292 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 3: to them. She pays zero respect. Often my parents' meal 1293 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 3: times are delayed because of her. As long as the 1294 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 3: girlfriend is in the kitchen, they can't make their food 1295 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 3: because she occupies the entire space. She always cooks so much, 1296 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:30,080 Speaker 3: but never shares or eats with them. A completely thoughtless person. 1297 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 3: It's maddening that they tolerate her. I said all this 1298 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 3: to rant about my experience, but from her point of view, 1299 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 3: I'm sure it's a great time. Despite the awkward living situation, 1300 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,440 Speaker 3: she has plenty of reason to stay. My brother pays 1301 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 3: for everything for her, including several vacations throughout the year. 1302 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 3: I think he's been trying to find her a proper job, 1303 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,920 Speaker 3: but she's not qualified or motivated enough. On the bright side, 1304 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 3: I will be moving in with my boyfriend of two 1305 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 3: years in the new year. This stress will be behind me, 1306 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 3: but I hate the thought of leaving knowing that she's there. Okay, 1307 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,440 Speaker 3: I'm done ranting. If you made it all the way 1308 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 3: down here, thank you, Please tell me read it. Am 1309 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 3: I wrong for hating this person? And then there's a 1310 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 3: small update after that. 1311 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 1: No, I don't think you're wrong for disliking them or 1312 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 1: not respecting them. Think you were in the wrong for 1313 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 1: not confronting her. Well, the boyfriend should have confronted her, 1314 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 1: the parents should have said something, and I know you 1315 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,920 Speaker 1: got it easy out, but go out with a bang. Yeah. 1316 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're not gonna be living there, then 1317 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 3: like it doesn't have to be awkward for anyone. It 1318 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 3: would only be awkward if you're living there still with 1319 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 3: her and saying these bad things. But like if you 1320 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 3: leave then and no one else seems to have a 1321 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 3: problem with it, then there's no other awkwardness in that situation. 1322 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 1: Like what if your brother's girlfriend just like moved in 1323 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 1: and was just doing all this. 1324 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,439 Speaker 3: That would be weird. It's also like it's not even 1325 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,400 Speaker 3: just the moving it. It's like it's just all of 1326 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 3: the lying and then using the space, offering someone else's 1327 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,280 Speaker 3: space to other people, like using it for babysitting and 1328 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,160 Speaker 3: for friends to pregame so they're drinking at their house, 1329 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,919 Speaker 3: like just all that stuff. Just that's just a lot. 1330 01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 1: It was like animals showed up at your house and 1331 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 1: you did nothing to get rid of It's like, oh, okay, cool. 1332 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,479 Speaker 3: It's like, all right, that's just that lives there now, 1333 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 3: it's a part of the house now. Never killing a 1334 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 3: spider and then just like having them breed and just 1335 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 3: your house just filled with spiders and cobwebs, because that's 1336 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 3: just there. There is still a little update, so let's 1337 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 3: get into it. Thank you to those that left their 1338 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 3: two cents. I appreciate the different perspective. The living situation 1339 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 3: has not changed, but I do have some new things 1340 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 3: to share about it all. My brother recently admitted to 1341 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 3: me that he doesn't even like his girlfriend, so no 1342 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,720 Speaker 3: one wants her there except for her. That's insane. He 1343 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,040 Speaker 3: doesn't take the relationship seriously and has no long term 1344 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:45,160 Speaker 3: plans to stay with her. 1345 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,400 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, break up with her. 1346 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 3: He is also confused as to why she is still 1347 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 3: with him, and is apparently telling her often to leave 1348 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 3: break up, especially when they have disagreements. From when I 1349 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,520 Speaker 3: gathered he's still so with her partly because he feels 1350 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:06,240 Speaker 3: bad for her, and partly because she's convenient. Dang, that 1351 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,160 Speaker 3: is rough. Yeah, if you're staying with someone just because 1352 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 3: they're convenient, that's like literally what settling is, so you 1353 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 3: probably should look for something a little more fulfilling. By 1354 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,800 Speaker 3: the way, what is extremely convenient is that we are 1355 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 3: alive every single weekday at three pm PSD. All you 1356 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 3: have to do is top that profile and so much 1357 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 3: more fulfilling than any sort of relationship you could settle for. 1358 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 3: It turns out that my brother and I are in 1359 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,560 Speaker 3: agreement about everything I had concluded about her upbringing, laziness, 1360 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 3: and having no real friends with one expectation. She is 1361 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 3: the oldest sibling, not the middle child. Her mom forty 1362 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,760 Speaker 3: one female, was fourteen, which. 1363 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,919 Speaker 1: She had her Oh my gosh, she had to grow 1364 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 1: up in such a hard household. 1365 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 3: Explains why the grandmother raised her and why the mom 1366 01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 3: was never really a mom. The mother is currently remarried 1367 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,360 Speaker 3: to some British guy who gives my brother gross predator vibes. 1368 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,200 Speaker 3: He worries for the youngest of his girlfriend's siblings, who's 1369 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,720 Speaker 3: somewhere between sixteen and eighteen years old. Well, that's a 1370 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,840 Speaker 3: weird note to end on, but that is the end 1371 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:15,240 Speaker 3: of that story. Hopefully the siblings are okay. That's a 1372 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,480 Speaker 3: whole another story in itself, but with the story at hand, 1373 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 3: the main plot line. If the brother isn't even interested, 1374 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,959 Speaker 3: it's like, why is she just there? 1375 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 1: She's like, Yeah, I don't know why I've been doing 1376 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:28,960 Speaker 1: this for the past couple of years. Why are we 1377 01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,080 Speaker 1: doing this, Like. 1378 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 3: What, Just let her go? Man, I want Opie to 1379 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 3: talk to the parents about it, talk to everyone about it. 1380 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 3: Seems like you've got the brother on board. I'm sure 1381 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 3: you could get the parents on board and just talk 1382 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 3: to the girl or just bring it up. I feel 1383 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 3: like you just be like hey, like why are you 1384 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,080 Speaker 3: living here? Or like are you gonna pay rent? 1385 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,200 Speaker 1: It's been like four years and the parents haven't said anything. 1386 01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think it was two years, but still 1387 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:54,520 Speaker 3: so much time. 1388 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,360 Speaker 1: She started coming over more and more in twenty twenty 1389 01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,920 Speaker 1: after the pandemic, and then she like just kind of 1390 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 1: fully moved in. But I think she did say two 1391 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,840 Speaker 1: and a half a second. But still, oh my gosh. 1392 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 3: Honestly, you guys Opie's family grow up bear, because I 1393 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,960 Speaker 3: don't want you to be a doormat, but you are. 1394 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,640 Speaker 1: My husband confessed he's in love with my sister, and 1395 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,480 Speaker 1: she confessed she knew. At least we're all on the 1396 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 1: same page. Yesterday we had dinner with my sister and 1397 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,440 Speaker 1: her husband, and we had a lot to drink. After 1398 01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 1: my sister and her husband left, my husband and I 1399 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,480 Speaker 1: had the spicy Sali. Neither of us were tired, so 1400 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 1: We continued a bit of wine, listening to music in 1401 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 1: the background, and everything was amazing. I thought, by the way, 1402 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 1: this comes from throwaway anxious bed on the ar size Okay, 1403 01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,080 Speaker 1: storytime Subreddit. My husband was smiling in a good mood. 1404 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 1: He's always like that when he's drunk. We talked about 1405 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 1: my sister and her husband. He just suddenly said, I'm 1406 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 1: so in love with sisters name. I said, what he said, 1407 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm so desperately in love with sister's name. What would 1408 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:04,080 Speaker 1: I do to taste her lips? She's brilliant, looked dreamy, 1409 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,360 Speaker 1: and was still smiling. I said, how drunk are you? 1410 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 1: He said, probably plenty. I was drunk too, but it 1411 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,720 Speaker 1: still hit me like a ton of bricks. I just 1412 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,439 Speaker 1: sat there silent. He was so in his own world, 1413 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,080 Speaker 1: with a smile etched on his face. He looked like 1414 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,599 Speaker 1: he was a million miles away. I went to bed 1415 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,599 Speaker 1: this morning, all memories came rushing and now I'm not drunk, 1416 01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,320 Speaker 1: and it hit me even more what he said. I'm horrified, 1417 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,839 Speaker 1: and in my heart is in pieces. He hasn't mentioned 1418 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:35,320 Speaker 1: anything and is acting normal, as if yet hungover. I 1419 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,080 Speaker 1: don't know what to do now he has always had 1420 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:41,840 Speaker 1: a good relationship with my sister with mutual respect. Should 1421 01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 1: I just ignore his drunken comments? Was that just him 1422 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,479 Speaker 1: being drunk? Should I wait for him to start talking? 1423 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,360 Speaker 1: Not sure if he even remembers. What about the spicy 1424 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 1: sleep we had? Something was different, even though I loved it. 1425 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,920 Speaker 1: I thought it was one of the best spicy sleeps 1426 01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 1: of my life. He said he was different, passionate, tender 1427 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,479 Speaker 1: and loving. When he he kept saying, I love you. 1428 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 1: You were brilliant. Ps. My sister has been monest and 1429 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 1: Tom Boyce, but she has lost twenty five kilograms and 1430 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,599 Speaker 1: has been working out for a year. She had a 1431 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 1: form fitting red dress yesterday with red lips. She looked 1432 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,120 Speaker 1: stunning and we all gave her compliments about it. She 1433 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,360 Speaker 1: was very happy about it. I don't know why I 1434 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,960 Speaker 1: included this. I thought maybe it's relevant because on top 1435 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 1: of having spots to sleep, sister looking good, being he 1436 01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:29,799 Speaker 1: was all up and was like, oh. 1437 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,120 Speaker 2: Does she think in that he was just like pretending 1438 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 2: that he was her sister. 1439 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 3: It's terrific. It's terrible. 1440 01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:48,800 Speaker 1: I would definitely bring this up hardcore and maybe even 1441 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,120 Speaker 1: look for a separation. I mean, I know, I'm just 1442 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 1: throwing this around, but I would probably take a few 1443 01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 1: a day or two, maybe even a week. 1444 01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,280 Speaker 2: He immediately press him on what he said and if 1445 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,880 Speaker 2: he goes I don't remember that, to go, well, you 1446 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,559 Speaker 2: said it, so now we have to talk about it. Yeah, 1447 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,160 Speaker 2: when people say that kind of stuff when they're it's 1448 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:07,600 Speaker 2: not because they don't mean it. 1449 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,879 Speaker 1: It's because they do mean it. Update. 1450 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:10,320 Speaker 3: Hi. 1451 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,320 Speaker 1: The rules of the update here is three days. That's 1452 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,799 Speaker 1: why I didn't update Sunday when I talk to my husband, 1453 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,240 Speaker 1: also because I'm very conflicted. I talked to my husband. 1454 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,240 Speaker 1: He said he didn't remember a lot that night, especially 1455 01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,679 Speaker 1: after my sister and her husband left and we continued drinking. 1456 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,800 Speaker 1: I told him what he said, and he didn't look 1457 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 1: shocked nor surprise, just that he didn't remember saying anything. 1458 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,839 Speaker 1: I asked him if he failed it before we started. 1459 01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 1: He said he always loved my sister because she's kind 1460 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,519 Speaker 1: and warm. Then he said he thought she looked very beautiful, 1461 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,000 Speaker 1: and it's probably in his self thought she was hot. 1462 01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,519 Speaker 1: He said it is normal that people are curious about 1463 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,280 Speaker 1: the opposite. He said that he has always thought she's 1464 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,040 Speaker 1: beautiful because all of my family is good looking. But 1465 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,320 Speaker 1: her weight loss gave her confidence and she looked happy, 1466 01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,840 Speaker 1: and he was happy for her. I asked him if 1467 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:05,240 Speaker 1: he could choose between us. He said he was shocked, 1468 01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,320 Speaker 1: and said that I was his wife and that the 1469 01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,360 Speaker 1: mother of his children, and he loved me. So I 1470 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,760 Speaker 1: asked him if he had just met us, I wasn't 1471 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,439 Speaker 1: his wife or anything, and my sister wasn't married. He 1472 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:19,519 Speaker 1: said that this was getting ridiculous, and he hated playing 1473 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 1: the hypothetical games because people get worked up fight about 1474 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,320 Speaker 1: things that aren't real. Yeah, I mean, that's that's fair. 1475 01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,800 Speaker 2: I actually I agree with him in that, because it's 1476 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,439 Speaker 2: not fair to be like, okay, well, in this hypothetical context, 1477 01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,560 Speaker 2: it's not real. Would you date my sister instead of me? 1478 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,479 Speaker 2: It's like, how can I possibly give you an answer 1479 01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,519 Speaker 2: to that? You want to keep him rooted in reality, 1480 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,200 Speaker 2: which is like this is what you said, How do 1481 01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 2: you really feel? I need to know right now if 1482 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 2: like there's a universe where you're gonna leave me, because 1483 01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,439 Speaker 2: like what, you love my sister, like you're infatuated with her, 1484 01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,320 Speaker 2: and it's like, I don't know what to think. 1485 01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,640 Speaker 1: I think we still have plenty more left, but we 1486 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,600 Speaker 1: got a little bit more. It sounds like he was 1487 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:57,439 Speaker 1: just real real After dinner he said that he loved 1488 01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,519 Speaker 1: me very much and he's happy, and I should overthink 1489 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,760 Speaker 1: what he said when he was too drunk to even 1490 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,720 Speaker 1: know who or where he was. I'm just not sure 1491 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:10,120 Speaker 1: we got one more updates. Do we press him more? 1492 01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 1: Should we believe him? 1493 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,400 Speaker 2: I think I personally where I'm at is I believe 1494 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,280 Speaker 2: him based on how he responded, where it's like, you're 1495 01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,360 Speaker 2: my wife, like you're my wife, and it's like, I 1496 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,720 Speaker 2: don't you know, we don't have the entire picture of 1497 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,720 Speaker 2: who they are as people on their dynamic, but it's 1498 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:30,599 Speaker 2: like they were heavily like to the point of who 1499 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,680 Speaker 2: like This guy says he doesn't remember a lot of 1500 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,479 Speaker 2: the night before. Yeah, it still is concerned. It's definitely 1501 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 2: concerning that he said it. But I think his response 1502 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:42,479 Speaker 2: the day after is in line with how a person 1503 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,720 Speaker 2: will respond who actually doesn't like would never be like 1504 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,800 Speaker 2: I actually want to lead, like when there's nothing, there's 1505 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,240 Speaker 2: no light behind the eyes anymore, who knows what's being said? Yeah, 1506 01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 2: he probably does think that the sister is hot. I 1507 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,719 Speaker 2: don't think he would ever leave ope for her sister. 1508 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,920 Speaker 1: Update two again, I have been delaying my update because honestly, 1509 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,639 Speaker 1: I am still fatigued. It has been rough. My husband 1510 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,160 Speaker 1: and I have been to therapy, and I don't know 1511 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 1: if I like therapy or if we are making any progress. 1512 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,599 Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like we are not making any progress 1513 01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 1: fast enough, and sometimes I just want to give up 1514 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,840 Speaker 1: and disappear. I have found out that my sister knew 1515 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:26,639 Speaker 1: all along about my husband's feelings for her all these years, 1516 01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,840 Speaker 1: and she has never even bothered to alert me. She's 1517 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,400 Speaker 1: known for years. I went on thinking I was happily 1518 01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,760 Speaker 1: married to a man whose heart I thought was mine. 1519 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,439 Speaker 1: I yelled and raged at her and cried, and she 1520 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 1: cried too, and apologized and said that she didn't want 1521 01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,680 Speaker 1: to hurt me and didn't know what to do. I 1522 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,640 Speaker 1: feel a lot of anger and resentment towards her, and 1523 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,960 Speaker 1: I have been playing my years with my husband, trying 1524 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,680 Speaker 1: to remember and every interaction with my sister and if 1525 01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:57,479 Speaker 1: I missed anything by being blindly, am I just so confused? 1526 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,719 Speaker 1: I can't remember anything and that is remote. You're alarming. 1527 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,679 Speaker 1: And yet my sister never tried to avoid my husband. 1528 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:08,479 Speaker 1: She gladly spent weekends, holidays, and vacation with my husband 1529 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,759 Speaker 1: and me, wouldn't she at least have tried to distance herself. 1530 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,840 Speaker 1: According to her, it was me. She wanted to have 1531 01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,920 Speaker 1: a relationship with me, and my children are the most 1532 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,679 Speaker 1: important people to her. She didn't want to be apart 1533 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,960 Speaker 1: from me. She told my husband that he promised never 1534 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,160 Speaker 1: to make her uncomfortable, but she knew that he had 1535 01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:30,799 Speaker 1: feelings for her. She refused to answer if he still did, however, 1536 01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:34,560 Speaker 1: which is a answer itself. She panicked and said no, 1537 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,840 Speaker 1: and please believe me, and you can believe that we 1538 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,759 Speaker 1: will go live every day at three PMPSD on YouTube. 1539 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,040 Speaker 1: Just tapped or a profile. We have a little bit more. 1540 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:48,160 Speaker 1: The sister also betrayed her. I had told her that 1541 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,360 Speaker 1: I needed some distance. She apologized and started crying. I 1542 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,320 Speaker 1: haven't spoken to her maybe three weeks. I heard that 1543 01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,880 Speaker 1: her husband is upset and has left the house because 1544 01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,479 Speaker 1: he didn't know either. I don't know what, but more 1545 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,680 Speaker 1: to update. I have tried to keep it simple. I 1546 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,960 Speaker 1: feel like I need advice now more than ever. And honestly, 1547 01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,639 Speaker 1: therapy is living me empty. After every session, it feels 1548 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how to describe it, methodical and a 1549 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,840 Speaker 1: matter of factual, only practical and logical aspects that need 1550 01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,920 Speaker 1: to be soft. Am I right being angry at my sister? 1551 01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,680 Speaker 1: Am I too optimistic? This could still work with me 1552 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,000 Speaker 1: and my husband? Can he love me just me? I 1553 01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,679 Speaker 1: don't know how to move on. I don't want to forget. 1554 01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,800 Speaker 1: I want to forgive. I think you have the right 1555 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:32,479 Speaker 1: mindset here. You have the right to be mad at 1556 01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,360 Speaker 1: your sister. You have the right to try to work 1557 01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,200 Speaker 1: this out with your husband. I think a new therapist 1558 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,840 Speaker 1: would work one hundred percent. And I think everyone just 1559 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,920 Speaker 1: needs some time to process this and to come to 1560 01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:44,840 Speaker 1: the actual facts that who they actually love. And people 1561 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,120 Speaker 1: can have a wandering eye sometimes and make like scenarios 1562 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,360 Speaker 1: in their head. I'm gonna check for an update. My 1563 01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,240 Speaker 1: sister can't have children. I don't know what to do, 1564 01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,040 Speaker 1: to be honest, Sometimes I wake up in the morning 1565 01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,360 Speaker 1: thinking nothing is a big deal. I have a good 1566 01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,080 Speaker 1: life and my children are well loved. Sometimes I want 1567 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,400 Speaker 1: to scream, and I hate everyone, and I want to 1568 01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,280 Speaker 1: kick him out and never see him again. I have 1569 01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,400 Speaker 1: spoken to brother in law now. He seems to be 1570 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:11,880 Speaker 1: serious about divorcing my sister. He said that something broke 1571 01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:16,479 Speaker 1: inside of him, his pride maybe she's catching strays, dude, 1572 01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,960 Speaker 1: it's not She's not the one in love with this guy. Yeah, yeah, true, true. 1573 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:22,920 Speaker 1: I think I wish that guy do about that. I 1574 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:23,880 Speaker 1: think that guy's in the wrong. 1575 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,720 Speaker 2: I mean what I think our last story, like op 1576 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,880 Speaker 2: said that they were insecure, needed to go to therapy. 1577 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,720 Speaker 1: Freaking the sister's husband definitely. 1578 01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,960 Speaker 2: Needs to go to therapy for his insecurities, because just 1579 01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,000 Speaker 2: finding out another guy is in love with your wife 1580 01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:38,400 Speaker 2: is going to make you divorce her. 1581 01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:42,160 Speaker 1: What's wrong with you? Yeah, that's that's insanity, dude, this 1582 01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,080 Speaker 1: is crazy. I can't wait for the next update. But yeah, 1583 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,720 Speaker 1: we definitely need to keep an eye out for that. 1584 01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,480 Speaker 1: Definitely go to another therapist, find a good couple's counselor, 1585 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,760 Speaker 1: and try your best to work through it in the 1586 01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,760 Speaker 1: most honest way possible. But that's gonna be scary, it's 1587 01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,320 Speaker 1: gonna be hard. The end of that one,