Speaker 1: What has happened?
Speaker 2: Everybody, and welcome into a Friday edition of Texans All
Speaker 2: Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris,
Speaker 2: football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston Texans, and it
Speaker 2: is a bye week.
Speaker 1: It has been quiet. It has been well.
Speaker 2: I mean on Thursday and Friday, our business ops gets
Speaker 2: the day's off and a bye week, so it's been
Speaker 2: really really quiet. No players, no coaches, a few people rehabbing.
Speaker 2: Maybe that hardly any if any business ops people in
Speaker 2: a building. But we still got radio to do, and
Speaker 2: so we will do it for you. I will take
Speaker 2: you up until eight o'clock and then Mark's got.
Speaker 1: An extra special edition.
Speaker 2: Of Texans All Access as he has every Friday night
Speaker 2: from eight to nine, So we got you for the
Speaker 2: next three hours.
Speaker 1: Now a bye week, they're in.
Speaker 2: A whole lot going on, so we'd like to look
Speaker 2: back at some of the great interviews that we've had.
Speaker 2: Maybe you missed it the first time, so so be
Speaker 2: fresh to you. And it's eight height end. First segment.
Speaker 2: This is great stuff because we're gonna hear from a
Speaker 2: player and a coach. We're gonna hear from Kate Stover
Speaker 2: player rookie. Great interview. Then we're gonna hear from his coach,
Speaker 2: Jake Morland, coach in a tremendous interview. Both of them
Speaker 2: are Great's a great way to start off the show.
Speaker 2: So let's start right here with Kate Stover on with
Speaker 2: me and Mark.
Speaker 3: Kate.
Speaker 2: I don't want to use the word tougher because it
Speaker 2: makes it sound like it's a negative, But in your
Speaker 2: first year in the NFL, what's been a bigger challenge
Speaker 2: the mental part of it or the physical part of it?
Speaker 4: Early on, I feel like mental was definitely a part
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 5: Just moves faster.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything just moves faster, and people move faster, and
Speaker 4: I mean each game just keep getting more comfortable and
Speaker 4: more comfortable and more opportunity to do something. And then
Speaker 4: things just really start to slow down. And I'm starting
Speaker 4: to start feel like his a game start to slot
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 6: But what about the mental part of it?
Speaker 7: I mean, you're out there doing a lot of work,
Speaker 7: a lot of different things, the blocking element, pass receiving,
Speaker 7: you have to know everything the whole offense.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I mean I.
Speaker 4: Kind of look at that like a kind of a compliment.
Speaker 4: Balance with you that they're asking a rookie to be
Speaker 4: able to go and move, and I do a lot
Speaker 4: of moving. I'm always moving here, in motion here and
Speaker 4: moving here, and I like doing it. I enjoy playing
Speaker 4: that way. It just takes a lot, I mean takes
Speaker 4: a lot during the week to really get yourself prepared
Speaker 4: to play fast on Sunday.
Speaker 2: In a tight end room, you lose Brevin. You guys
Speaker 2: have pretty tight tight end room. What's that room like this?
Speaker 4: No doubt it's really good, even I mean really obviously
Speaker 4: really sad losing Brevin. He was really instrumental to me
Speaker 4: during camp and stuff. Just him and Dalton both just
Speaker 4: really really good dudes, and honestly they could have not
Speaker 4: been good dudes to me obviously, yep. So just have
Speaker 4: them do that and have Teaking back now. I mean
Speaker 4: I didn't really know Teaking that well during camp, but
Speaker 4: now since he's been back, like I would say, I'm
Speaker 4: pretty close and good friends with that kid. So it's
Speaker 4: just really good to have such good people in the
Speaker 4: group and everybody's happy for each other.
Speaker 7: I'm sure we discussed this, but Jake Morland, your tight
Speaker 7: Ends coach, was an original Texan, so you can ask
Speaker 7: him to tell you the story being in this building
Speaker 7: before the team ever played a game.
Speaker 6: So that's interesting stuff right there.
Speaker 7: But talk to us a little bit about the offense
Speaker 7: because you mentioned during the week it's a.
Speaker 6: Lot of work.
Speaker 7: Do you bring the playbuck home and you go over
Speaker 7: all this stuff, because, like you said, you're out there
Speaker 7: moving a lot and it's noticeable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a lot. But then again, I mean,
Speaker 4: this is your job, no, right, I mean I guess
Speaker 4: in the lesser terms, I mean I watched my pops
Speaker 4: get up and go to work every day. He's from
Speaker 4: five o'clock till eight o'clock at night. Like, right, if
Speaker 4: all I gotta do is go and study a play
Speaker 4: for studying my place for a couple hours.
Speaker 5: And now I'm pretty sure I got it pretty good.
Speaker 4: You don't have class, No class, I mean that's your
Speaker 4: job now, Like there's no pay for due. I don't
Speaker 4: got it right. You don't have study hours or anything
Speaker 4: like that. So this is I mean, I just kind
Speaker 4: of take that time and put it towards that.
Speaker 2: Now, as a famous Buckey once said, you don't have
Speaker 2: to play school anymore, so you don't have to worry
Speaker 2: about that from from that standpoint, primetime games now gooper
Speaker 2: Ohio State. You got them at all kinds at all
Speaker 2: times throughout the day, eleven, two thirty and at night. Right,
Speaker 2: But just being in primetime games is something that we
Speaker 2: haven't seen around here for a few years. What's kind
Speaker 2: of that nighttime element? Like for you guys, is add
Speaker 2: a little bit more juice to it? Is it that
Speaker 2: much more exciting? Is that much more exciting to play
Speaker 2: the night game here like we did against Chicago?
Speaker 1: What's that kind of nighttime experience?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 8: Fair?
Speaker 4: The hardest part of a nighttime game is waiting around
Speaker 4: all day. Yeah, that's awful, I mean to me, that's why,
Speaker 4: like a lot of players, you don't like playing at
Speaker 4: night because you to sit there all day long just
Speaker 4: to play right. And the hardest part about that you
Speaker 4: got to keep yourself. You gotta keep yourself calm, right.
Speaker 4: You can't wake up and be ready to rock, because
Speaker 4: if you do, then you have to burn yourself out before, right,
Speaker 4: Like there were times in college where early on I
Speaker 4: would do that and you're like, I don't got no legs,
Speaker 4: Like why are my legs on it? It's because you're
Speaker 4: constantly like you're just thinking you're moving like you just
Speaker 4: you got to relax. And that's I mean, one of
Speaker 4: the harder parts for me is just growing up and
Speaker 4: just relaxing and being like, dude, it's coming.
Speaker 9: Just relax.
Speaker 1: You got to keep the adrenaline kind of low, right.
Speaker 4: You can't, I mean, because you can only handle so
Speaker 4: much during out the day, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 4: I didn't be able to go out there through warm
Speaker 4: ups and long warm up and then low low simmer
Speaker 4: all day and keep letting her build, let her build,
Speaker 4: and then if you do it right, you're feeling damn good.
Speaker 5: Eight o'clock kids.
Speaker 6: Over with us.
Speaker 7: When you were in college, what were some of the
Speaker 7: louder environments you played in? Obviously at home it was loud,
Speaker 7: but as an offense, you got to deal with all
Speaker 7: the communication and everything, so and.
Speaker 6: Here you've dealt with it.
Speaker 7: Green Bay, Minnesota, obviously the Jet game, but I would
Speaker 7: think Minnesota was probably number one, right as far as.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was just yeah Minnesota, and it's the one
Speaker 4: game I try and forget about.
Speaker 5: For the rest of my life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I would say that was my here you go,
Speaker 4: wake up, big fella. So that was good for me
Speaker 4: to grow up in that aspect of that game. But
Speaker 4: as far as noise wise, loud of state, I've ever
Speaker 4: been in this Penn State and it's really close.
Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, I mean Mark knows. Yeah, I used to
Speaker 7: work there a long time ago. But your boys got
Speaker 7: it done this weekend.
Speaker 3: They did, They got it done.
Speaker 4: I just remember, like I mean, obviously anybody's played their
Speaker 4: juice can tell you, like I mean that that's a
Speaker 4: rattle to like the core. Yeah, that wow, the noise
Speaker 4: of that, especially with if they if they get some
Speaker 4: life early on, they always have life e other on
Speaker 4: playing us, we don't really come.
Speaker 2: Back that life gets extinguished very quickly against the Buckeyes lately.
Speaker 1: Uh, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Would I know you don't want to you know, the
Speaker 2: Minnesota game, it was a tough one and it's probably
Speaker 2: one that you know, you play a ten twelve year career,
Speaker 2: you'll probably look back on that.
Speaker 6: Would that would taught me some lessons?
Speaker 2: So I know it's it's one that you probably will
Speaker 2: never want to forget in a sense because it'll probably
Speaker 2: continue to drive you at some point, which you already know.
Speaker 2: But did you have and have you had kind of
Speaker 2: a welcome to the NFL moment at any point.
Speaker 5: That was it, that was it considered.
Speaker 4: That whole game was kind of like because up to
Speaker 4: that point we played two games and like I was
Speaker 4: kind of sparingly used obviously, like playing the fullback spot.
Speaker 5: I've not played on the line yet in a full NFL.
Speaker 7: Game, right, in a full game. Yeah, but you had
Speaker 7: some big moments. You had the fourth down against Chicago
Speaker 7: what I.
Speaker 4: Mean, But like that was just from the backfield, a
Speaker 4: little flat, like just sprinkle them in, get them used to,
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, and Breven goes down. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then they moved me to the why and like
Speaker 4: the first two snaps of the game was a one
Speaker 4: on one pass block with that and I'm normally I
Speaker 4: mean normally like in college, I was always all right,
Speaker 4: you know what i mean, But then like it just
Speaker 4: was different. It's just I mean, obviously, like even to
Speaker 4: this point, every day, like there's not there's certain things
Speaker 4: in your life to stick with you and hang with
Speaker 4: you forever, but hurt. But I tell you what, like
Speaker 4: that's also something that's never gonna happen again.
Speaker 7: It's so different, huh from practice because practice you're getting
Speaker 7: the look team. You're not blowing the guy up in
Speaker 7: the same way obviously as you're gonna be the game,
Speaker 7: he's not. He's not gonna have what he's gonna have
Speaker 7: against you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and even more like I I it's hard to describe,
Speaker 4: but like when you're really like that was my first
Speaker 4: game being in there, our first snapping game, right right,
Speaker 4: and I've never been in that like that to me
Speaker 4: was a really big Like whether it's a start, I
Speaker 4: don't know what you consider it, but like I was
Speaker 4: the first guy out there with the first team offense, right,
Speaker 4: that's my NFL career, And I was like that was
Speaker 4: big to me, know what I mean. I'm proud up
Speaker 4: and you can forget and then you're like, god darn it,
Speaker 4: he came a little kid again.
Speaker 5: Just felt like I was six years old again that yeah.
Speaker 2: But I mean, like you said, look, those things happen,
Speaker 2: but you have lined up at fullback, you've lined up
Speaker 2: at eh, you lined up at why, You've moved around,
Speaker 2: and it feels like just watching kid, you've gotten really
Speaker 2: kind of comfortable to split blocking where you're coming across.
Speaker 2: I thought against Green Bay, I thought we were gonna
Speaker 2: pop that one at second and twelve. You came across
Speaker 2: and took out Preston Smith, and I thought that was
Speaker 2: going to be there.
Speaker 1: But that part of your.
Speaker 2: Game really seemingly has been very very good kind of
Speaker 2: blocking on the move. Do you feel kind of more comfortable?
Speaker 2: Have you gotten more comfortable doing that as you've gotten here?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I like doing it. I do. I
Speaker 5: enjoy moving around.
Speaker 4: I enjoy being put in spots where I got a
Speaker 4: little momentum with me, know, I mean, you got a
Speaker 4: little you got, you got some momentum. I guess the
Speaker 4: best thing for that, especially when you're blocking dudes like that.
Speaker 4: I mean, some of those dudes are and college guys
Speaker 4: are big, obviously, but some of these dudes are gigantic, right,
Speaker 4: But I still like, I like my odds when I'm moving,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: So in high school, Kate Stiver with US, you played
Speaker 7: a lot of defense. You originally were a linebacker at
Speaker 7: Ohio State, Right, that's.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: What do you miss about that side of the football
Speaker 7: versus playing offense.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm still trying to figure this out
Speaker 4: to I feel like, when you're playing defense, you can
Speaker 4: one hundred percent. Set the tone all the time, and
Speaker 4: if you don't make the play on defense, that's your fault, right,
Speaker 4: you got blocked right for the ball. I mean, if
Speaker 4: somebody's running the ball and I'm playing middle backer and
Speaker 4: if I'm not making a play, that's on me. It's
Speaker 4: not damn, they're not scheming me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: On offense, a lot of this has to come down
Speaker 4: to a lot of different parts as far as okay, like.
Speaker 5: Am I even in the progression on this route?
Speaker 9: Okay?
Speaker 5: Other?
Speaker 4: Thanks you you can. I feel like on defense you
Speaker 4: can take the game over a lot faster. And that's
Speaker 4: what I miss the most is being able to sit
Speaker 4: back there in essence just headhunt, you know what I.
Speaker 7: Mean, Right, you need to know where to go. But
Speaker 7: on offense, correct me if I'm wrong. You've got to
Speaker 7: sell things and have.
Speaker 3: A little more.
Speaker 4: There's so much more finesse of right, and you try
Speaker 4: like you try, and honestly, that's something you try to balance, right,
Speaker 4: because you got to balance round off the ball and
Speaker 4: being the being trying to be then fourster on offense,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and being the guy that, hey,
Speaker 4: I'm going to stick here, Like, that's what the reputation
Speaker 4: you want, you, I mean, that's a reputation I want, right,
Speaker 4: And this dude's coming. He's cross cutting the back line
Speaker 4: like he's going to stick you.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: He's blocking on outside, so he's going to stick you right.
Speaker 4: On defense, it's the same thing, except when you get
Speaker 4: there and you arrive, it's a lot easier to get
Speaker 4: excited making a one yard stop as opposed to making
Speaker 4: a block for a five yard game. It's in essence,
Speaker 4: it's kind of similar, but it's just even it's so
Speaker 4: hard and like even in college trying to get the
Speaker 4: offensive line to buy in the hey, like we got
Speaker 4: to be just excited making that five yard block as
Speaker 4: they are making a one yard game.
Speaker 7: All right, So along those lines, in a way, you're
Speaker 7: the all time leading scorer in basketball.
Speaker 6: For your high school. Right, that's where I was going
Speaker 6: with I.
Speaker 7: I once heard Doug Flutie, famous Heisman Trophy winning football players, saying,
Speaker 7: I love playing basketball because it's just pure making plays
Speaker 7: all day long.
Speaker 6: Right, how did you enjoy that versus football?
Speaker 5: I love?
Speaker 4: I mean, this is gonna sound awful. Basketball is near
Speaker 4: and dear to my heart. Okay, I love it, right,
Speaker 4: just because of the fact that it also goes back
Speaker 4: to the aspect you can take over a basketball game
Speaker 4: mm hm. And if you've got guys that trust you
Speaker 4: and believe in you and just do their job and
Speaker 4: play defense, you can take over that basketball game and
Speaker 4: you can ride right. And it's also it also has
Speaker 4: to do with it's just so smooth, and I think
Speaker 4: the best athletes play basketball because you got to have
Speaker 4: I mean, you got to have so much touch and
Speaker 4: finesse but also such a crazy amount of power and
Speaker 4: IQ to play basketball.
Speaker 2: And CJ was really good too. Well, that's what I
Speaker 2: was going to ask you. Do you guys ever play
Speaker 2: one on one because we have heard we have heard
Speaker 2: that CJ. Stroud's a really good basketball player video.
Speaker 5: Video gat he's a great basketball player.
Speaker 2: So if you guys ever got one on one or
Speaker 2: do you guys always have to be on the same
Speaker 2: like five pickup team.
Speaker 3: I can tell you. So we had we had.
Speaker 4: Like a three quarter half court inside our facilitio hostile boys.
Speaker 5: Right like hardwood floor, nice like.
Speaker 4: It was awesome, right, Okay, And that was honestly some
Speaker 4: of my best college memories. Yeah, being in there with
Speaker 4: twenty thirty dudes, and you got teams of four right
Speaker 4: and you're playing and you're just picking up on your plane.
Speaker 4: It was some of the best basketball I've ever seen
Speaker 4: in my life.
Speaker 5: And if there was a.
Speaker 6: Camera on the wall, would have been good stuff.
Speaker 3: It would have been.
Speaker 4: Everybody had been like Holy moly, because I mean it's
Speaker 4: just a bunch of competitors. I mean, it doesn't matter
Speaker 4: what it is. I mean, everybody like it's going on.
Speaker 5: It's not like your.
Speaker 4: Typical I mean it's like, yeah, everybody's playing defense. Everybody
Speaker 4: like there's no easy dunks, like everybody's contesting everything.
Speaker 5: It's it was a blast.
Speaker 2: You always had to be you always had to look
Speaker 2: out for because we used to have those two. We
Speaker 2: always had like a wrestler or two that played the
Speaker 2: football team and then they would get onto court.
Speaker 1: You always look out for that guy.
Speaker 3: We had them.
Speaker 4: That actually was obviously we've had a couple of rolled angles,
Speaker 4: right yeah, right angles, right Yeah. Everybody tries to play
Speaker 4: it off like, oh man, I can't got on my
Speaker 4: car step on side, you know.
Speaker 5: What I mean.
Speaker 3: And at one point, uh.
Speaker 4: I can't remember what year it was, but there was
Speaker 4: the basketball hoop was like they chained the rim all
Speaker 4: those guys like a two offseason guy forgetting Yeah, three
Speaker 4: guys with ankles brains yeah, saying like yeah, I was
Speaker 4: riding the line scooter.
Speaker 1: We know what happened.
Speaker 6: Okay, thanks a lot for joining us, sppreciate you guys.
Speaker 5: Thanks love.
Speaker 2: And the man that is leading him in that tight
Speaker 2: end room is Jake Morland. Played in the league this
Speaker 2: We've had such great interviews with Jake over the years
Speaker 2: and this was just another one. And I figured my
Speaker 2: theme being tight ends. In the first segment, let's get
Speaker 2: tight end Kate Stover and tight end coach Jake Moreland
Speaker 2: right here and.
Speaker 6: Mark joining us now at studio.
Speaker 7: It's Texans tight ends coach and original Texan and former
Speaker 7: Western Michigan bronco Jake Morland in the house. How's it going, coach, Well,
Speaker 7: it's always great to visit with you, and let's talk
Speaker 7: about your group a little bit here. Things always evolve
Speaker 7: and change in this league. And I want to start
Speaker 7: here because we had Cad Stover in here two three
Speaker 7: weeks ago or something. We're talking to him about playing
Speaker 7: some full back. Now he plays tight end, but he's
Speaker 7: got to play some full back. So how does all
Speaker 7: that work when you're coaching up a rookie, especially in
Speaker 7: some key moments. He's out there and he might not
Speaker 7: be catching the ball or whatever, but those blocks are important.
Speaker 9: Coach.
Speaker 10: Yeah, for sure, you know Kay's doing a great job.
Speaker 10: I think the whole room is really doing a great job.
Speaker 10: But I think it's a testament to them as a room,
Speaker 10: and it's a way that I guess I teach Okay,
Speaker 10: anybody who's in the tight end's room, they know that
Speaker 10: at any moment, they could be a wide receiver, they
Speaker 10: could be a fullback, they could be a regular why
Speaker 10: tight end, you know, like people are accustomed to seeing.
Speaker 10: And unfortunately, I've actually been in some circumstances where the
Speaker 10: why tight end has had to go in as a
Speaker 10: tackle because we had so many injuries on the offensive
Speaker 10: line during a game that we're the only ones that
Speaker 10: knew what was happening, and we had to have that happen.
Speaker 10: So it's a very fun and exciting place to be
Speaker 10: in this offense because you're asked do a lot of things.
Speaker 10: And going back to your original question, what Kate has
Speaker 10: been able to do with putting together playing the why
Speaker 10: tight end and also being in the in the backfield
Speaker 10: as a fullback has been really really great coach?
Speaker 2: Does that make it more I don't know if exciting
Speaker 2: is the right word, but more exciting for you in
Speaker 2: a sense that you got to know all the different
Speaker 2: protections as you know a pass blocker. You got to
Speaker 2: know all the different protections and blocking schemes for the run.
Speaker 1: You got to know all the different routes.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like you got your hand in everything
Speaker 2: at the buffet in a sense?
Speaker 1: Does that make it more fun to coach? The position?
Speaker 3: That's exactly right?
Speaker 10: And that's actually exactly what I tell these guys, and
Speaker 10: I have to remind them sometimes that, you know, in
Speaker 10: my opinion, we should be the second most informed person
Speaker 10: on the field behind the quarterback, because like you said,
Speaker 10: we have to know the run game, the pass game,
Speaker 10: the pass protection game, and all of the above right,
Speaker 10: all the routes that go along with it. So because
Speaker 10: we have all of these things on our plate, our
Speaker 10: plate is full. But that's how we like it, you know,
Speaker 10: And so we cross train everybody because if kid breaks
Speaker 10: a shoelace and slow wants to call another formation with
Speaker 10: a tight end in the backfield. Well, somebody's got to
Speaker 10: go fill that role. So everybody gets cross trained if
Speaker 10: you're in the room, and I don't care, it's everybody
Speaker 10: from Troy Harriston all the way to Teague in Quatoriano,
Speaker 10: and everybody's getting cross trained in the backfield on the
Speaker 10: line as a why and so on and so forth.
Speaker 2: Dalton seems like a pretty chill, kind of quiet guy
Speaker 2: when you see him, but one were his emotions like
Speaker 2: going back. I saw him after the game and I
Speaker 2: was like that one had to feel good. He's Dowin
Speaker 2: felt good. How is that kind of managing that.
Speaker 1: Through the week for Dalton?
Speaker 3: Coach? Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 10: You know, he's a pro, right, He's been in the
Speaker 10: league for a long time, so he knows how to
Speaker 10: manage himself and things like that. And so I tried
Speaker 10: not to guess him up too much because I knew
Speaker 10: that he was already going to be feeling that, you know, individually.
Speaker 10: But he definitely had a different look in his eye,
Speaker 10: I will say that, and so I just kind of
Speaker 10: left it at that and just try to keep him
Speaker 10: encouraged and pump him up and encourage him to keep
Speaker 10: on doing what he's doing because he's playing really good football.
Speaker 10: You know, he hasn't been targeted, maybe as much as
Speaker 10: he would like, But the fact of the matter is
Speaker 10: that when he is targeted, he is doing what he
Speaker 10: needs to do, and he's doing a great job in
Speaker 10: the run game, and he knows that when we ask
Speaker 10: him to do something, he's going to be there for
Speaker 10: and be able to deliver.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Jake Morland coaches ends for the Texans. The point
Speaker 7: you just brought up, you'd love to be targeted all
Speaker 7: the time. Every player who is capable of catching a
Speaker 7: pass wants to catch all the passes. But you mentioned
Speaker 7: all the dirty work that you have to do that's
Speaker 7: utterly important. Is there a sense that or do you
Speaker 7: have to remind everybody that, hey, this is seen by
Speaker 7: all the important people in your career, right the other teams,
Speaker 7: this team, whether you end up another place or not.
Speaker 7: As you're coaching guys in training camp and whatnot, do
Speaker 7: you need to remind them of that sometimes one hundred percent?
Speaker 10: I mean, I mean, of course, guys, you know, especially
Speaker 10: on this level, everybody, Hey guy, I'm open on every play.
Speaker 10: You're not open on every play, even though you think
Speaker 10: you're open on every play. I get it, but that's
Speaker 10: how competitive these guys are, right, So in order to
Speaker 10: keep on keep on fueling that competitive drive, you want
Speaker 10: to let them know that when you get your opportunity,
Speaker 10: you have to maximize it, and you never know when
Speaker 10: that opportunity is going to come. It's like, you know,
Speaker 10: you play seventy plays in a game, and there's probably
Speaker 10: five or six of those plays that are really going
Speaker 10: to determine the outcome. The problem is you don't know
Speaker 10: when those plays are going to show up. So if
Speaker 10: you're not able to perform on every single play that
Speaker 10: you're in, then you might miss your opportunity. And that's
Speaker 10: the thing that we talk about the most in our
Speaker 10: room is the progress is part of the process, right
Speaker 10: and as we continue to progress through the season, are
Speaker 10: we able to sustain everything that we need to do
Speaker 10: play in and play out? So because you never know
Speaker 10: when that one play is going to be the turning
Speaker 10: point in.
Speaker 2: The game, coach almost feel like there should be some
Speaker 2: delineation at some point between using the word rookie and
Speaker 2: using the year first year guy, because I feel like
Speaker 2: they're no longer rookies because they've been playing a lot.
Speaker 2: What have you seen from Caid since he matured from
Speaker 2: a rookie to a first year player. He's lined up
Speaker 2: almost everywhere. He's done a little bit of everything, including
Speaker 2: being one of the Special teams players of the week.
Speaker 2: What has he done as a rookie for you guys,
Speaker 2: and what kind of growth have you seen in Kate?
Speaker 10: Well, I think it starts with his approach the guy.
Speaker 10: He showed up in a professional kind of a manner,
Speaker 10: you know what I mean. Sometimes you have to kind of,
Speaker 10: let's say, coach guys into say hey, this is how
Speaker 10: we perform, this is how we study, these are the
Speaker 10: things that we have to do. And Caid was pro
Speaker 10: as soon as he walked through the doors, right. So
Speaker 10: his mental ability to grasp the offense has been fantastic.
Speaker 10: That's why we're able to move him around and do
Speaker 10: the things that we're able to do. His physical presence
Speaker 10: has allowed him to also not only be in the offense,
Speaker 10: but also become a real live player for us in
Speaker 10: special teams.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 10: And so when you're a tight end, especially in this level,
Speaker 10: you have to be able to perform both in special
Speaker 10: teams and on the offense.
Speaker 3: For whatever that looks.
Speaker 10: Like for that particular week, and I think he's just
Speaker 10: really embraced his role. Whatever we ask him to do,
Speaker 10: he's going to do it to the best of his ability.
Speaker 10: And he's very coachable. He wants to be coached, he
Speaker 10: wants to be pushed, and he really wants to be
Speaker 10: the best at what he's doing.
Speaker 2: And I thought he was really open with us. We
Speaker 2: had him in here, what maybe three four weeks ago,
Speaker 2: and he actually brought it up. We didn't really want
Speaker 2: to go there, and he brought He was the one
Speaker 2: who brought up the Minnesota game, and he talked about
Speaker 2: the lessons he learned from that Minnesota game that he
Speaker 2: is then applying going forward.
Speaker 1: Did you see that same thing, coach.
Speaker 2: I mean, that was a tough game for him, a
Speaker 2: tough time against John Gernard in particular.
Speaker 1: Did you kind of see that same thing from him,
Speaker 1: because he talked.
Speaker 2: About it very openly about how that was a real
Speaker 2: learning lesson for him that added kind of to his
Speaker 2: tool kit as he moved forward, exactly.
Speaker 10: And again I go back to these guys that are
Speaker 10: in my room. They are pros, and they really have
Speaker 10: a great approach to the game and they know that
Speaker 10: there are things even if we lose, okay, quote unquote lose,
Speaker 10: you lose a play, you lose a game, whatever, that
Speaker 10: looks like, there's going to be lessons that you can
Speaker 10: derive from that, and then if you're able to apply
Speaker 10: it as you move on through the season. I think
Speaker 10: that's why we are where we are now. We went
Speaker 10: through some adversity over the last few weeks, not only
Speaker 10: going all the way back to Minnesota, but as a team,
Speaker 10: you know, everybody faces injuries. Get that, well, we probably
Speaker 10: lost a couple of games that most people think that.
Speaker 3: We should have won, including us.
Speaker 10: Okay, fine, well, what can we learn from that and
Speaker 10: apply now as we continue to move on and we
Speaker 10: start getting into December, because that's when where we really
Speaker 10: need to be playing our best ball.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 7: Jake Morland tight ends coach for the Texans. All right,
Speaker 7: so you played tight end, you played the position you
Speaker 7: played in the league, and then you started coaching. So
Speaker 7: when did that or how was that evolution for you?
Speaker 7: Where the satisfaction is I'm teaching somebody else and I
Speaker 7: see them do something well and it just lights a
Speaker 7: fuse for me. It really satisfies me, and I want
Speaker 7: to pursue this forever.
Speaker 10: It was something that I did not want to do
Speaker 10: by one hundred percent. Did not want to be a coach.
Speaker 10: In fact, when I got done playing, I was completely
Speaker 10: done with football. Didn't want anything to do with football.
Speaker 10: And then I was asked to come and be part
Speaker 10: of a staff with one of my quarterback from college,
Speaker 10: and I said, I'm going to help you out for
Speaker 10: this fall, and that's it, and then I'm done. And
Speaker 10: from the first moment that I stepped on the field,
Speaker 10: I knew that this is what I was supposed to do.
Speaker 10: It was very hard for me at first to be
Speaker 10: able to articulate the things that I wanted my players
Speaker 10: to be able to do. For whatever reason, I had
Speaker 10: been able to just do things naturally. I couldn't really
Speaker 10: explain to you why or how. I just knew how
Speaker 10: things needed to be done. Well, now I need to
Speaker 10: put it into a real, live English language to be
Speaker 10: able to articulate to somebody that they understand that they
Speaker 10: can go and perform. And so that was a very
Speaker 10: very hard thing for me to do early in my
Speaker 10: career and as I've gone to different places. The Air
Speaker 10: Force Academy is the best example because even though those
Speaker 10: guys are the smartest guys, they're the bravest guys. I
Speaker 10: mean all of the above. They're made up of all
Speaker 10: the right stuff, But you have a very small window
Speaker 10: that you have to get all the information to.
Speaker 3: These guys in.
Speaker 10: And by the way, they're also worried about, you know,
Speaker 10: aeronautical engineering and protecting our country and all these other things.
Speaker 10: Football is, you know, down the lists quite a bit
Speaker 10: for these guys. But it made me a better coach
Speaker 10: because I needed to be very concise in the information
Speaker 10: that I was giving them so that they could go
Speaker 10: out and make it perform. So everywhere that I've been
Speaker 10: I've been able to learn different things, learn different techniques.
Speaker 10: And also you got to figure out what pushes the
Speaker 10: guy's buttons and how do guys learn. Some guys learn
Speaker 10: through paper, some guys learn through video, some guys learn
Speaker 10: through walk through and so you have to be able
Speaker 10: to manipulate all of those things so everybody can be
Speaker 10: on the same page.
Speaker 1: And as a coach. Now it's now technology.
Speaker 2: How do you you know with the new technology, because
Speaker 2: back when we were coaching, like you're drawing it up
Speaker 2: on pads, you know, it was on paper as all
Speaker 2: you do.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you that coaching bug hits. Man.
Speaker 2: When it strikes, it's like holy cow, definitely strike.
Speaker 1: Yes, it does strike like a lightning bolt. All right.
Speaker 1: Coming up next, one.
Speaker 2: Of the more seasoned coaches, if you will, on this
Speaker 2: staff is the guy that we met for the first
Speaker 2: time when he walked into our studio, and that's Bill Davis,
Speaker 2: Linebacker's coach. I mean, you talk about a guy that's
Speaker 2: been around and he's seen some things. Man, he's absolutely awesome.
Speaker 2: We had a great time talking to him. Bill Davis's
Speaker 2: next right here in Texans All Access. Welcome back to
Speaker 2: Texans All Access. I'm your host, John Harrits, Football Analyst,
Speaker 2: sideline reporter, and this is my eleventh year of being
Speaker 2: in this role for the Texans. Absolutely love it. Couldn't
Speaker 2: think of anything else I'd rather do on a day
Speaker 2: to day basis. Every single year, as and I remember
Speaker 2: Bill Brian just talking about this, every single team is
Speaker 2: a different team. Twenty three, twenty twenty three teams different
Speaker 2: than twenty twenty four. And yeah, there was a lot
Speaker 2: of carryover. The's a lot of players back from twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three, but it's always a new team. And with
Speaker 2: a new team, every year comes new players, new coaches, rookies,
Speaker 2: free agents, you know, coaches that are coming to Houston
Speaker 2: for the first time. And we ran into one of
Speaker 2: those guys, linebackers coach Bill Davis. And I'll be really honest,
Speaker 2: when the coach took the job, I'd heard the name,
Speaker 2: I knew he'd been around, but really wasn't totally completely
Speaker 2: immersed in his story. And when I found out we're
Speaker 2: gonna interview him, like, Okay, I'm gonna go check out
Speaker 2: his background, Like, oh.
Speaker 1: My gosh, yeah, I forgot he was here. Oh man,
Speaker 1: I can't. Oh yeah he was there too. Oh man.
Speaker 2: He coached this guy, Bill Davis has been around and
Speaker 2: seen some things. He has done a great job with
Speaker 2: these linebackers. And when he sat down, we had one
Speaker 2: hell of a time talking with him about his history
Speaker 2: being with the Texans, this group of linebackers he's got.
Speaker 2: This was some really fun stuff with Bill Davis, linebackers
Speaker 2: coach for your Houston Texans.
Speaker 7: Joining us right now in studio. Bill Davis, linebackers coach
Speaker 7: for your Texans.
Speaker 1: How's it going, coach, It's going great.
Speaker 11: Just came off the practice field, excited about how the
Speaker 11: guys are working.
Speaker 2: Coach, when Devin White comes in, whether this really isn't
Speaker 2: about Devin so much as it is just a new
Speaker 2: player coming in in the middle of the season. Because
Speaker 2: you've been around the NFL for a long time, I
Speaker 2: know the goal is probably, hey, let's get this guy
Speaker 2: on the field as soon as possible. But how do
Speaker 2: you kind of go about that process of getting a
Speaker 2: guy up to speed with something new, like learning this
Speaker 2: particular defense.
Speaker 9: So there's a lot of things that factor in.
Speaker 11: For instance, a disease came to us, but it had
Speaker 11: been in San Francisco's Yeah, you know the system before,
Speaker 11: so the words instantly turned to where he knew exactly
Speaker 11: what they meant. Devon is not so Devon's coming from
Speaker 11: two different systems that we run. So now there's a
Speaker 11: lot of all, right, here's what we call this hook
Speaker 11: curl buzz, cover three, cover four, and here's what you
Speaker 11: called it, and we just have to It's like teaching
Speaker 11: somebody to speak Spanish from German or England. You know,
Speaker 11: you've got the same meanings, but you've got to figure
Speaker 11: out the words that apply, and then you dive down
Speaker 11: a little bit deeper into specific techniques, and we call
Speaker 11: them tools or adjustments that we make win. An offense
Speaker 11: is attacking our cover three in a certain way where
Speaker 11: we have a couple of tools to beat how they're
Speaker 11: attacking us. Well, he's got to learn not only our
Speaker 11: cover three, but the tools that live within that cover three.
Speaker 11: And that's where the deeper dive takes longer to really
Speaker 11: trust that he can help you win the game and
Speaker 11: not hurt you because he just is in a situation
Speaker 11: he hasn't covered yet. We have all these OTA's, all
Speaker 11: the training camp, all these practices. These guys stack and
Speaker 11: they've gone through all those problems and they can say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 11: I remember in spring when that happened. I remember in preseason.
Speaker 11: Devin doesn't have any of that. So we just have
Speaker 11: to take him at the pace that'll go. We'll start
Speaker 11: in small packages that are real familiar to him and
Speaker 11: then and we'll grow a needed.
Speaker 9: Ye every situation is different, guys.
Speaker 7: Sure, Bill Davis with US linebackers coach for the Texans,
Speaker 7: you've been a defensive coordinator. You've coached linebackers for a
Speaker 7: long time though in this league. What about the evolution
Speaker 7: of the linebacker in the NFL. We've done shows with
Speaker 7: with Ted Johnson. We had Brian Cushing on this team,
Speaker 7: though those guys a little bigger. Seems like the sizes
Speaker 7: are changing. What do you think overall coaches, the way
Speaker 7: the linebacker position has evolved.
Speaker 11: So basically, what happens if you look at it through
Speaker 11: this real simple ends that the more big people the
Speaker 11: offense has on the field, the more big people we
Speaker 11: put on defensively, the more smaller fast people, the more
Speaker 11: smaller fast defensive players we play. And what's happened over time,
Speaker 11: And I've been in three decades now and even longer.
Speaker 11: When I was a kid and a ball boy, there
Speaker 11: was always the big players. When I say big, there
Speaker 11: was multiple tight end sets. There was always a fullback
Speaker 11: in everybody's offense. So everything was big, and our linebackers
Speaker 11: were two fifty two fifty five. That's what we looked for.
Speaker 11: Could you stop the run first? And over time the
Speaker 11: offenses have morphed into more pass heavy and in order
Speaker 11: to be better in their past, they get smaller, faster,
Speaker 11: quicker guys. So what we've done with the linebackers, especially
Speaker 11: the inside, is now what used to be a two
Speaker 11: forty five. That's what the weight and the size six '
Speaker 11: three doesn't necessarily run real fast, but can stop the run.
Speaker 11: That is no longer what we're looking for now it's
Speaker 11: gone smaller and smaller, faster, quicker. The first thing I
Speaker 11: look for is can he run and cover?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 11: Because seventy percent of what he has to do is
Speaker 11: coverage and thirty percent stop the run.
Speaker 9: So where at that place? So we have to evolve.
Speaker 3: What was a safety.
Speaker 9: When I first started in the league is now a linebacker?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 7: So could Jamiico Ryans be an all era linebacker? Could
Speaker 7: he play in any era?
Speaker 9: Absolutely? Okay? Good ass?
Speaker 11: And I don't only say that because he's the boss.
Speaker 11: I say that because of who Damiico is. And he's
Speaker 11: right at the end between He is big enough to
Speaker 11: handle the run and stop the run. He's athletic and
Speaker 11: fast enough to cover. You put him in coverage like
Speaker 11: they can't go Christian McCaffrey coverage.
Speaker 9: That's that's a rare coverage.
Speaker 11: Anyway you put a safety on a kid like that,
Speaker 11: now you're okay, our safety is going to have trouble.
Speaker 11: So there's different variations of who that running back is
Speaker 11: week the week who the tight end is, and you
Speaker 11: find your matchup linebacker wise the one that we match
Speaker 11: up with better.
Speaker 7: Were you attempted to suit him up last week with
Speaker 7: the kid?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 7: Bill Davis with US linebackers coach for the Texans. Are
Speaker 7: you mentioned you have some history in this league? Coach,
Speaker 7: and I have a lot of places I can go here,
Speaker 7: but I want to start here. You're with Dom Capers
Speaker 7: in Carolina, the very first head coach in Texans history,
Speaker 7: and you're with him in Carolina.
Speaker 6: Had some success with him.
Speaker 7: You were coaching linebackers and Kevin Green and Lamar Lathan
Speaker 7: finished one and two in sacks. That's incredible stuff. But
Speaker 7: what was it like being with Dom and Carolina?
Speaker 8: So?
Speaker 11: I started in Pittsburgh with Dom yep So when my
Speaker 11: first broke in the league, it was Pittsburgh Steel As
Speaker 11: he was a coordinator, went on to be the head
Speaker 11: coach of the expansion Panthers, and I was just outside
Speaker 11: linebacker coach. Vic Fanguel was a coordinator. So I've really
Speaker 11: been blessed with the coaches that I've been able to
Speaker 11: be around. And Dom Capers is an absolute mentor of mine.
Speaker 11: He has been there for me the whole career. I've
Speaker 11: learned most of my defensive ball from Dom. My first
Speaker 11: seven years were with Dom. He's outstanding human being. Him
Speaker 11: and Karen are two of my favorite people on planet Earth.
Speaker 11: But when we were in Carolina and we took that expansion,
Speaker 11: I've been with two expansion teams, Carolina and the Browns.
Speaker 9: And the first expansion team they gave the league, gave us.
Speaker 1: And Jackville everything.
Speaker 9: It wasn't fair to the rest of the league. We
Speaker 9: thought of one would be fair to us.
Speaker 11: We were loaded in free agency, we had an unlimited checkbook,
Speaker 11: and we had two picks in every round. The week
Speaker 11: we both went to the championship games after year two,
Speaker 11: so it was a real quick ascent. Then later on
Speaker 11: I was in Cleveland for the expansion and they took
Speaker 11: all of those away from us, right, so it was
Speaker 11: a little bit different animal. But with Dom and Bill
Speaker 11: Poli and those guys put together a heck of a
Speaker 11: team and it was fun to the Probably one of
Speaker 11: the biggest accomplishments of my career as a coach was
Speaker 11: having Lamar Lath and Kevin Green finished first and second
Speaker 11: in the NFL and sacks, and they were starters in
Speaker 11: the Pro Bowl, and it was a year that was
Speaker 11: a lot of fun. But those players were really committed.
Speaker 11: Like this group I have now is how hard do
Speaker 11: they work? In practice? Tells you what kind of players
Speaker 11: you have and they don't all work the same. But
Speaker 11: those guys back when we were wanting two work, they
Speaker 11: earned what they You get what you earn, and they
Speaker 11: earned those that first and second coach.
Speaker 2: You mentioned it earlier about being a ball boy when
Speaker 2: you were growing up, So you've been around this thing
Speaker 2: for a real long time. Thinking back to when you
Speaker 2: were a kid and you were doing that, did you
Speaker 2: ever think it would materialize into this? Was that kind
Speaker 2: of the impetus for Oh, yeah, I'm gonna be in
Speaker 2: the NFL, I'm going to be a coach.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2: How did that experience as being a ball boy kind
Speaker 2: of project forward into what you do now?
Speaker 9: I was so blessed my upbringer.
Speaker 11: My father's first job was with the Philadelphi Eagles in
Speaker 11: nineteen seventy six. We Dick for Meal, Wow and Vince
Speaker 11: Papali actually the whole Invincible. Yeah, it was all right
Speaker 11: then when we were there and I was a ball boy,
Speaker 11: so I was in a locker room and experience all
Speaker 11: of it. Ron Jaworski and those guys coach for meal,
Speaker 11: watching him coach and the grind you put the players through.
Speaker 11: And then I was also able to go to the
Speaker 11: Miami Dolphins when my dad was with Don Shula. So
Speaker 11: I'm now a ballboy with Don Shula. And here the
Speaker 11: ball boys are are Jerry Sandusky, who's radio for Baltimore now,
Speaker 11: David Schula, Mike Shula, Orangebarger's son David. We had henting.
Speaker 11: We just had a great group of guys and we
Speaker 11: were watching coach Shula coach every day, right and you're
Speaker 11: watching them coach on game Den were Monday Night football.
Speaker 11: I'm the guy with the red ex and I'm the
Speaker 11: kid throwing the ball. Listen, coach Schula coach. So from
Speaker 11: from early on it was so much fun to be
Speaker 11: around those guys and in the locker room. The first
Speaker 11: goal was I was going to be a player. I
Speaker 11: was going to be the Hall of Fame and Joe
Speaker 11: mont danas that I was going to be. That didn't
Speaker 11: work out, like I didn't work out for a lot
Speaker 11: of people, and then there was no there was no
Speaker 11: question I was going.
Speaker 7: In the coach, there was no doubt and we're blessed
Speaker 7: for it because you're the linebackers coach of the Texans. Coach,
Speaker 7: thanks a lot for joining us, good luck, thanks.
Speaker 9: For having me, guys appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get him back.
Speaker 2: There's so many things that we didn't even get a
Speaker 2: chance to ask him because we only get the coaches
Speaker 2: for about ten minutes, and so it's there's always stuff
Speaker 2: on the cutter in your floor with all these guys
Speaker 2: are so intriguing, both players and coaches, and we'd love
Speaker 2: for them to come into studio and just chop it
Speaker 2: up with Mark and I. So we appreciate the opportunity
Speaker 2: to talk with all these coaches and players. Thanks to
Speaker 2: Texans pr Omar Everett, Lindsey Ryan, Angelique, Maria. They all
Speaker 2: do such a great job and we are so thankful
Speaker 2: for all of their efforts in getting those coaches to us.
Speaker 1: Okay, every Friday, even in.
Speaker 2: A bye week, I gotta make predictions, and just the
Speaker 2: way the show came down today, I'm moving them up
Speaker 2: a little bit and we'll go back and revisit what
Speaker 2: happened in Detroit last night, because man, what a game
Speaker 2: that was Detroit, So we'll look back at that and
Speaker 2: then we'll make picks straight up and against the spread
Speaker 2: for fun for this weekend's games.
Speaker 1: That's next the Texans All Access. What's happened? Everybody?
Speaker 2: Walking back to the Friday edition of Texans All Access
Speaker 2: from the Hunday Texans Radio studio.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, John.
Speaker 2: Harris, football analystilo reporter for your Houston Texans and this
Speaker 2: is well.
Speaker 1: Typically at the end of.
Speaker 2: The first hour, we have the status report for the
Speaker 2: game and we start talking a little bit more about
Speaker 2: the game. We've gone through the keys of the game,
Speaker 2: but obviously there's no games, no keys, and no status report.
Speaker 2: We'll save that for Miami, and that's gonna get all
Speaker 2: kinds of interesting when we take on.
Speaker 1: Miami next week. But that's next week.
Speaker 2: It's bye week time. Now, that doesn't mean that the
Speaker 2: NFL is not playing, it's just us. There are six
Speaker 2: teams not playing this weekend, the Colts one of them.
Speaker 2: I believe the Ravens are one of those teams, Texas
Speaker 2: being one of those teams, and there are three others.
Speaker 2: There's six teams on a bye this week, and it's
Speaker 2: tough to get this buye so late in the year,
Speaker 2: but good to get a weekend to rest, there's no
Speaker 2: question about that. But I'm still gonna make my predictions
Speaker 2: straight up and against the spread because it's fun and
Speaker 2: the way the show kind of is configured, it was
Speaker 2: just better to do it here than to do a.
Speaker 1: Little bit later. So we're gonna jump on it right now.
Speaker 1: So give me my music.
Speaker 2: Let's start last night recapping one of the incredible football
Speaker 2: games of the year. The Detroit Lions took on the
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers. Now, they played in Green Bay the
Speaker 2: week right before we played Detroit, and Detroit just went
Speaker 2: in there and just smacked him around at Lambeau and
Speaker 2: it wasn't even close.
Speaker 1: Jordan Love threw a touchdown pass.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, he did throw a touchdown pass, but it
Speaker 2: was to Kirby Joseph, not to Green Bay Packer.
Speaker 1: So it was a wild not a wild game in Lambeau.
Speaker 2: It was a wild game last night, and it started
Speaker 2: with David Montgomery giving Detroit a seven to nothing leap.
Speaker 12: First and Goald Montgomery in the backfield, Lions trying to
Speaker 12: strike first hand off, Montgomery.
Speaker 13: Running to the right walk in touchdown, untouched Montgomery for
Speaker 13: the score and the Lions strike first in this huge
Speaker 13: NFC North battle.
Speaker 1: Jake Bates Fugal gave the Lines a ten to nothing lead.
Speaker 2: Then it was time for the Packers star running back
Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs to cut into.
Speaker 12: The lead, first in goal from the one seventeen pass
Speaker 12: interference calls against the Detroit d this year, most of
Speaker 12: the NFL Jacobs in the backfield handoff. Jacob's running to
Speaker 12: the left.
Speaker 1: He's in touchdown.
Speaker 13: Green Bay answers strong drive the majority on the ground,
Speaker 13: and fittingly, that's how they score it.
Speaker 3: With Jacobs in the end zone.
Speaker 2: That made it ten to seven for Detroit going into
Speaker 2: the second quarter. Later in the second quarter, Jered Goff
Speaker 2: looked like he had scored on a little quarterback sneak
Speaker 2: trap sort of thing, but he had not, so that
Speaker 2: gave Detroit a couple more.
Speaker 1: Opportunities to get any end zone on fourth down.
Speaker 2: They would eventually capitalize and take a seventeen to seven
Speaker 2: lead when Jamir Gibbs ran a little circle route into
Speaker 2: the end zone, wide open seventeen to seven Lions.
Speaker 12: Twelfth play of the drive, the fourth and goal. The
Speaker 12: ball is at the two fourteen seconds left in his
Speaker 12: first half, the Kims in the backfield, shotgun, tough looking.
Speaker 13: Brows con it's gams touchdown Lions.
Speaker 1: They go for it on fourth down and they cash in.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that whole go for it on fourth down thing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you'll hear more about that. Both good and
Speaker 2: bad for the Lions and just a little bit. But
Speaker 2: the Lions took a seventeen seven lead into halftime. The
Speaker 2: Packers came right out on fire. Jordan Love found Tuckerkraft
Speaker 2: to cut that lead to seventeen fourteen.
Speaker 12: Packers bring Chris Brooks into the game, running back out
Speaker 12: a byu.
Speaker 3: Malik heat Is.
Speaker 12: In shotgun on third and ten from the twelve of
Speaker 12: Detroit reed motion man to the near side, three receivers left.
Speaker 12: Love gets the snap, steps up, throws end zone. It's
Speaker 12: caught touchdown Tucker Craft.
Speaker 13: Jordan Love hums it in there for a twelve yard
Speaker 13: scorer and the Packers are right.
Speaker 1: Back in it.
Speaker 2: Packers weren't done down by three. They got the ball back.
Speaker 2: It was time for Josh Jacobs to give the Packers
Speaker 2: a twenty one to seventy league snap.
Speaker 3: Love handoff, Jacobs runs it inside.
Speaker 13: And Jacob's gonna take it in for the touchdown contact
Speaker 13: on Jacobs.
Speaker 1: It didn't stop him.
Speaker 12: It barely slowed him down, and somehow the Packers have
Speaker 12: taken the lead.
Speaker 2: The Lions would take the lead back on a Tim
Speaker 2: Patrick touchdown catch. Tim Patrick had a really nice ball game.
Speaker 2: It's glad to see him have that game for the Lions.
Speaker 2: The Lions got the ball back at that point ahead
Speaker 2: twenty eight to twenty four. Keep in mind lines ahead
Speaker 2: twenty eight twenty four, But they had the ball at
Speaker 2: their own thirty one yard line and faced a fourth
Speaker 2: and one, and Dan Campbell left his offense out on
Speaker 2: a field they got stuffed and Josh Jacobs will go
Speaker 2: ahead and score and give the Packers a twenty eight
Speaker 2: to twenty four lead. Goff struck again to Tim Patrick
Speaker 2: on a one yard touchdown pass to retake the lead
Speaker 2: thirty one to twenty eight. Mcmahonus hit a field goal
Speaker 2: and tie it at thirty one, and that takes us
Speaker 2: to the end of the game, fourth and one and
Speaker 2: a really interesting decision by Dan Campbell.
Speaker 1: Do I go for it? Do I not?
Speaker 2: There's forty three seconds left in the game. Packers have
Speaker 2: no timeouts, so the Lions can kick it take the
Speaker 2: lead thirty four to thirty one. But they're given the Packers,
Speaker 2: or would have given the Packers a chance to go
Speaker 2: down and tie the ball game, send it overtime. So
Speaker 2: Dan ca Ambill said, you know what, I got the
Speaker 2: best offensive line in the league. I got the best
Speaker 2: running back duo in the league. I will trust them.
Speaker 2: David Montgomery gets the first down, they're able to run
Speaker 2: the clock all the way down and kick on the
Speaker 2: last play of the game.
Speaker 1: Jake Bates did it to the Texans. Could he do
Speaker 1: it to the Packers? Yes, he could.
Speaker 12: It is the rookie Jake Bates trotting onto the field.
Speaker 8: You said his story earlier, Ian, It's really incredible. I mean,
Speaker 8: for people that aren't familiar, the guy really got signed
Speaker 8: because of what he did in the UFL in this
Speaker 8: stadium for whatever.
Speaker 1: The UFL Detroit team's name.
Speaker 3: Is the Michigan Panthers. Yeah, Michigan Panthers. This is the
Speaker 3: Michigan Panthers right now, Jakes.
Speaker 12: This is for the number one seed in the NFC,
Speaker 12: Detroit trying to move to twelve and one on the season.
Speaker 1: This is a thirty five five yard at ten.
Speaker 12: Patton to snap it Fox the holder, Jake Bates, rookie kicker,
Speaker 12: the approach, sweeps the.
Speaker 1: Leg kick on the way, He's got the Lions win.
Speaker 13: It is a new franchise record eleven straight victories for
Speaker 13: the Detroit Lions. They outlast the Packers thirty four to
Speaker 13: thirty one. Detroit moves to twelve and one, and they
Speaker 13: maintain the number one seed in the NFC.
Speaker 1: The Lions clinch a playoff berth Drama in Detroit, Oh
Speaker 1: yeah baby.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of drama in Detroit, no doubt,
Speaker 2: but the Lions get that win.
Speaker 1: In what a game.
Speaker 2: Fourth down risks. Dan Campbell is not scared, not scared.
Speaker 2: He's ahead, He'll go for a deepen on territory, needing
Speaker 2: to run out the clock. I actually thought he should
Speaker 2: have punned it when they were head by three deep
Speaker 2: of their territory.
Speaker 1: But I thought he did the right thing at the
Speaker 1: end of the game.
Speaker 2: Don't give the Packers a shot because of forty three
Speaker 2: seconds left.
Speaker 1: I mean, I tried to figure out the way.
Speaker 2: To say this, but I felt like the risk was
Speaker 2: minimized because, yeah, the Packers can go down to kick
Speaker 2: a field.
Speaker 1: Go and beat you.
Speaker 2: That's a pretty big risk, but it kind of just
Speaker 2: felt like overtime at that point, so try to keep
Speaker 2: it from actually going to overtime.
Speaker 1: I agreed with him going forward on fourth down.
Speaker 2: I was listening to the game on mute last night,
Speaker 2: so I don't know what Alan Kirk had to say,
Speaker 2: but that's the way I looked at thirty four thirty one.
Speaker 2: Detroit wins or twelve and one Green Bay falls to
Speaker 2: nine and four. You heard Iron Eagles say the Lions
Speaker 2: clinched the playoff spot. They are that much closer to
Speaker 2: clinching the NFC North, but Minnesota's played really well, so
Speaker 2: they need Minnesota to do some things. This are they
Speaker 2: playing this weekend? I mean, there's so many teams on buys. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Vikers are playing. Oh yeah, we'll talk about that
Speaker 2: in just a second. But either way, line's that win.
Speaker 2: Jared Goff throws three touchdowns for the Lions. Jordan Love
Speaker 2: made a couple of incredible throws. Montgomery the touchdown, James
Speaker 2: Williams had eighty yards. Christian Watson was great yet on
Speaker 2: four one hundred and fourteen yards receiving.
Speaker 1: The Lions win thirty four thirty one.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's make these picks straight up and against the
Speaker 2: spread throughout the league. The Saints are taking on the Giants.
Speaker 2: These teams are I mean, the Saints, I guess are
Speaker 2: still in it in the NFC South, but I just
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what to expect from
Speaker 2: the Giants. It's probably Drew Locke, you know, Let's go
Speaker 2: at Drew Locke to get a cover for the Saints
Speaker 2: to get a win on the road.
Speaker 1: It's five and a half to spread, so let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Saints win. Giants cover, Brown Steelers.
Speaker 2: They played a few weeks ago and the Browns upset
Speaker 2: the Steelers.
Speaker 1: Steelers are six and a half point favorites on the road.
Speaker 2: Make sure you're watching this on AFC North, Hard Knocks
Speaker 2: on HBO, because fantastic stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. Steelers win.
Speaker 2: They're gonna get a little bit of revenge against Jamis
Speaker 2: Winston and the Browns in a short week play on
Speaker 2: Monday night, and they gotta go on the road to
Speaker 2: take on the Steelers. It's a bus ride, so it's
Speaker 2: not that bad. But Steelers wins. Steelers cover. Kirko is
Speaker 2: not playing well for the Atlanta Falcons, and now he
Speaker 2: goes back to take on as former team in Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2: The Vikings favored by six. I think they will jump
Speaker 2: all over the Falcons and all over Kirk Cousins. Won't
Speaker 2: be surprised to see Michael Pennix at the end of
Speaker 2: this one. Minnesota wins and covers the six. The Raiders
Speaker 2: taking on the Buccaneers. A and O'Connell's playing much much better,
Speaker 2: but the Buccaneers are right back in the thick of
Speaker 2: things in the NFC South, Buccaneers are fair by six
Speaker 2: and a half. They're gonna win this thing and win
Speaker 2: it by seven or more. Bucks win go to seven
Speaker 2: and six. That'll be a big one. If the Vikings
Speaker 2: win like I thought, that puts the Bucks atop the
Speaker 2: NFC South. Panthers taking on Eagles. The Panthers have played
Speaker 2: much much better lately, but Eagles are favored by fourteen
Speaker 2: for a reason.
Speaker 1: They're gonna win this thing by twenty.
Speaker 2: Let's go thirty four fourteen winn and cover for the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Jags Titans.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see the Titans lose this thing because
Speaker 2: the Titans have ten losses too, and then both would
Speaker 2: be out of the playoffs.
Speaker 3: But either way.
Speaker 2: Tennessee three and a half point favorite. This probably should
Speaker 2: be with the Jags playing Mac Jones. I think, man,
Speaker 2: this is a tough one. I think the Titans are
Speaker 2: gonna win this thing at home. But at three and
Speaker 2: a hook, I don't know who I love. So let's
Speaker 2: go Titans win this, but the Jaguars get inside that number.
Speaker 2: Let's go twenty to seventeen. Twenty seventeen. Titans win, but
Speaker 2: Jaguars get a cover. Jets Dolphins down in Miami. Miami
Speaker 2: favorite by six, coming off that Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: Loss to the Packers.
Speaker 2: They've had the little mini by I think Dolphins arrested.
Speaker 2: Dolphins favored by six. I think they beat up the Jets.
Speaker 2: The Jets have just opened a can of quit. Forget
Speaker 2: about it, it had done. Yeah, they're done. Miami wins
Speaker 2: this thing by seven or more. Dolphins moved to six
Speaker 2: and seven with the win, and they get a Seahawks
Speaker 2: and Cardinals. That's gonna be a funball game in Arizona.
Speaker 2: Geno Smith played okay for the Seahawks, not great, but
Speaker 2: then he'll play well enough to make this one close.
Speaker 2: But in the end, Arizona's gonna come away with the win.
Speaker 2: I think Arizona's tough to beat at home. Arizona's gonna
Speaker 2: move to seven and six on the year, and Arizona
Speaker 2: will cover that two and a half points.
Speaker 1: That's what their favorite buy.
Speaker 2: Bill's going on to take a Bill's going out to
Speaker 2: La one week after clinching the AFC East, but they
Speaker 2: have designs on that number one seed in the af seed.
Speaker 2: The Rams just kind of beat up, but the defense
Speaker 2: plays well. The defense will give it a go for
Speaker 2: a while, but in the end, the Bills will win
Speaker 2: this thing. They'll win it by a touchdown. Let's go
Speaker 2: thirty one twenty four. That'll cover the three and a
Speaker 2: half Bill's gonna win and cover out in La. Bears
Speaker 2: taking on the forty nine Ers. Two teams are just
Speaker 2: kind of messes right now. For the forty nine Ers,
Speaker 2: it's injuries. For the Bears, Matt Eberflu's gone. Now you've
Speaker 2: got Thomas Brown as zerum head coach and yoc it's
Speaker 2: been all just it's been crap for the Bears since midseason,
Speaker 2: since I lost to the Commanders.
Speaker 1: It's been ugly.
Speaker 2: Let's go forty nine Ers to win this thing and
Speaker 2: cover that three and a half they'll win this thing
Speaker 2: by ten. Let's go thirty to twenty forty nine, Ers
Speaker 2: win and get the six and seven Chargers. Chiefs is
Speaker 2: a wonderful Sunday night game. Chiefs at home. They're favored
Speaker 2: by four. They played every game right at that number
Speaker 2: about four, But I think they win this thing by seven.
Speaker 2: Let's go thirty four to twenty seven. Herbert keeps it close,
Speaker 2: but the Chiefs win and cover the Monday Night Bengals Cowboys.
Speaker 2: It's the Simpsons game.
Speaker 1: It's ud be pretty fun.
Speaker 2: Since he's favored by five in Dallas, I'm going Dallas
Speaker 2: in the upset to win and then obviously cover Dallas
Speaker 2: in and upset. How about that? Okay, that finishes the
Speaker 2: first hour. We get back. It's time for Frank Ross,
Speaker 2: the Boss, to join us next right here in Texans
Speaker 2: All Access. We go on our down one are left
Speaker 2: to go right here on a Friday edition of Texans
Speaker 2: All Access. I'm your host, John Harris Football Analysts. It's
Speaker 2: time to talk to our buddy Frank Ross. Yes, Frank
Speaker 2: Ross is the Boss special teams coordinator. We had fun
Speaker 2: conversation with him back a couple of weeks ago talking
Speaker 2: about special teams kickoffs could have.
Speaker 1: Gone off for twenty minutes. We went about five. So
Speaker 1: here we go coach Ross with Mark and.
Speaker 7: In studio with us now special teams coordinator Frank Ross, coach,
Speaker 7: Great to see you.
Speaker 6: How's it going?
Speaker 9: Ready to roll?
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 7: That sounds rather some dude for you. I know we
Speaker 7: have a few days before the game.
Speaker 1: It's about the crescendo, Bill.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you have to bring it in practice every day, right,
Speaker 7: and you want your guys to do that too.
Speaker 6: During some times you have to work with that.
Speaker 14: We operate on a full capacity and then you just
Speaker 14: run out at some point. Right now, we're not running out,
Speaker 14: so we'll tempo it down when we call it a retirement.
Speaker 2: So Frank, I think about you a lot of night
Speaker 2: games because I think about the energy you bring and
Speaker 2: how hard that must be to like harness that whole
Speaker 2: thing until seven whatever at night. How tough is that
Speaker 2: for a guy that has as much energy as you
Speaker 2: do to just kind of chill and kind of like
Speaker 2: let it build as opposed to just be amped all
Speaker 2: day and then run out by halftime.
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's a great question. Honestly, I know a lot
Speaker 14: of guys that preferred day games. You wake up, got
Speaker 14: your routine and start, and there is an element of
Speaker 14: anxious weight during those those long hours before the game.
Speaker 14: So everybody's got their own way. I just know this.
Speaker 14: When the football is kicked off in the NFL, there's
Speaker 14: nothing better on planet Earth. So it's not something that
Speaker 14: you have to get hyped up, or if you do,
Speaker 14: got to find a new line of work.
Speaker 7: That's a good point, all right, coach, it's time to
Speaker 7: get the review dynamic kickoff thoughts?
Speaker 14: Is that the word dynamics still? Yeah, so there's some
Speaker 14: sarcasm there for anybody who didn't catch that.
Speaker 1: But I think I think a couple things.
Speaker 14: One, we have some midseason reports amongst the special teams
Speaker 14: coaches getting a little inside information here that the injuries
Speaker 14: are down. Okay, they've accomplished the goals of like, there's
Speaker 14: no lex injuries or a plummet of those which lex
Speaker 14: is the lower extre the hamstring pulls on a touch
Speaker 14: back for your guys that are flying down in case
Speaker 14: the ball were to be brought out of the end
Speaker 14: zone a year ago and you pull a hamstring or
Speaker 14: an unintended collision on a touchback that results in a concussion.
Speaker 14: So I think the NFL that's you know, one of
Speaker 14: the main things that definitely at this point seems to
Speaker 14: be something that's trending positive for the new play. They're
Speaker 14: definitely gonna be some iterations moving forward, in my opinion,
Speaker 14: I hope. So there's so many restrictions, right, so two
Speaker 14: players outside the numbers for the kickoff team, you can't
Speaker 14: move two players between the numbers and the hash. You
Speaker 14: can't move two players between the hashes. So that is
Speaker 14: a landlocked like you are. Your perimeters are standardized, so
Speaker 14: you know that. So the kickoff team says, okay, that
Speaker 14: backside player, this front side player, they can only get
Speaker 14: to so many places. Conversely, on the other side, there's
Speaker 14: not as much flexibility as we thought that would provide
Speaker 14: these you know, these beautiful swing returns that kind of
Speaker 14: set left and go right. And then relative to the
Speaker 14: XFL picture that everybody thought it was gonna be, kickers
Speaker 14: are better, cover players are better. Yes, So you know
Speaker 14: you have nevill Hewett flying down the field, alright, flying
Speaker 14: down the field, it might be a different story no
Speaker 14: offense to the XFL. It just you know, the guys
Speaker 14: are moving faster, so it's definitely provided some challenges and
Speaker 14: it's become a little bit more routinized and standardized. So
Speaker 14: we're gonna continue to see if it can become more
Speaker 14: exciting as we move forward with it.
Speaker 7: You've answered this before, but it's a new year. So
Speaker 7: the conversations that take place with coach Ryan's on let's
Speaker 7: kick it to the one or let's just bash it
Speaker 7: through the back of the end zone, time of the game,
Speaker 7: situation with the return man.
Speaker 6: What goes into all that.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you kind of hit on some of those things
Speaker 14: we talked about before. But yardage situation, who's covering for us,
Speaker 14: what has happened previously or earlier in the game. We
Speaker 14: mentioned this well just with the local media about Green
Speaker 14: Bay when we were up there and win one side
Speaker 14: of the field or the other. All those things are
Speaker 14: gonna matter. How can we cover how had gone to
Speaker 14: this point, what do they need to do in the
Speaker 14: game to get points?
Speaker 1: So all those are always going to factor.
Speaker 14: And to mention what you had referenced earlier last week,
Speaker 14: we were trying to put the ball in play quickly
Speaker 14: or I would say perfect placement and it goes an
Speaker 14: inch past.
Speaker 1: That's a good miss. There's no such thing as good
Speaker 1: like that is a good miss.
Speaker 14: So if they don't want to return it, that's their
Speaker 14: prerogative and we just have to just there.
Speaker 7: Coach one more for you, the punting game obviously, as
Speaker 7: far as coverage, putting itself, all of it.
Speaker 6: Your thoughts on the performance so far this year.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think that this season we're playing our best
Speaker 14: football right now, and I think that showed out Tommy
Speaker 14: letting it rip with direction hang. We saw the gunners,
Speaker 14: I mean, other coach coordinators and coaches from other teams
Speaker 14: are commenting on our gunner play.
Speaker 1: Mishap early in the season.
Speaker 14: With protection, I thought we did a great job in
Speaker 14: protection the last few weeks, not only assignment, but actually
Speaker 14: physically dominating at the point of attack when rushers are coming.
Speaker 14: You're not just collecting a rusher, You're striking that guy.
Speaker 14: And really happy with where that's been. And to be
Speaker 14: able to flip the field in a big football game
Speaker 14: like that's everything. So to fight down there cover like banshees,
Speaker 14: that's what we want every week. I want you guys
Speaker 14: to as the guys calling the game, I want you
Speaker 14: to look at the special teams unit and say, those
Speaker 14: guys are playing violent and fast.
Speaker 1: I'm fired up, Coach, I'm ready to play next.
Speaker 6: Let's go call this game.
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Coach, good luck, thanks to you guys.
Speaker 2: Coming up next is a feel good Friday, and if
Speaker 2: Frank Ross doesn't make it feel good, Demko Ryans will
Speaker 2: for sure that's next right here in Texans All Access,
Speaker 2: Welcome back to this Friday edition of Texans All Access,
Speaker 2: a bye week Friday All Access Show. Appreciate you being
Speaker 2: with me John Harris, Football and sideline Reporter for your
Speaker 2: Houston Texans. But it's also a feel good Friday, so
Speaker 2: that means Demico Ryans, we had a chance to catch
Speaker 2: up with coach after the win against Jacksonville before everybody
Speaker 2: took off for the buye some great stuff and it
Speaker 2: makes you feel good on a Friday.
Speaker 1: Let's go coach with me and.
Speaker 6: Mark joining us in studio.
Speaker 7: Head Coach, Demiko riants Coach, happy bye week, here.
Speaker 1: We are, Happy bye week, finally here, finally here.
Speaker 6: It's only been since mid July, Coach.
Speaker 7: It's been a long run, but you come into the
Speaker 7: by having beaten Jacksonville, and let's start there because at
Speaker 7: the end of the game, you kill the clock with
Speaker 7: the ground game, and I know you're all fired up
Speaker 7: about that. Guys blocking Joe running. You got the job done.
Speaker 7: Ended the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 15: I love to see the way we ended that game
Speaker 15: right offensively. Did not want to put the defense back
Speaker 15: out on the field, so they knew we were.
Speaker 3: Running the ball. We knew were running.
Speaker 15: He's talking through it with Bobby, He's going with our
Speaker 15: best run of the day and we show up and
Speaker 15: it's no more important block on that play than Robert
Speaker 15: Woods coming into the screen.
Speaker 3: Robert Is.
Speaker 15: We put Robert to block their linebacker. He did an
Speaker 15: exceptional job of blocking him. Our tight ends were great
Speaker 15: on that play as well, larring me. Excellent jobs lost everybody.
Speaker 15: Is what we talk about in the run game, getting
Speaker 15: a hat on a hat and controlling the line of scrimming,
Speaker 15: moving guys off the line of scrimms. That's how she
Speaker 15: looked right there, and that was a fun way to
Speaker 15: end the game, you know, to make sure we're going
Speaker 15: out in victory formationon and kneeling it out. Love to
Speaker 15: see that every single time.
Speaker 2: That's both times on a road Division game. Did it
Speaker 2: Indian Week one? You did it in Jacksonville finishing it
Speaker 2: that way and that's so it's fulfilling. But coach, that's
Speaker 2: ten nice of this to you after the game. That's
Speaker 2: ten straight road Division wins for the Texans. I don't
Speaker 2: ask you if there's any secret sauce and or once
Speaker 2: you give that up, but what is it about playing
Speaker 2: on the road in the division where you guys sort
Speaker 2: of light up a little bit and go get wins?
Speaker 15: I wish it was one thing I could put my
Speaker 15: head on that it was, you know, one thing here
Speaker 15: playing on the road, But it's really just the way
Speaker 15: our guys showed up mentally yesterday. That was that was it.
Speaker 15: Like we were in a great spot. Everybody was playing
Speaker 15: to win the game like and that was that's what
Speaker 15: you felt, the effort right, the mindset, how guys were
Speaker 15: finishing like that's what it takes every time you line up.
Speaker 15: We're not playing to not lose, you play to win.
Speaker 15: And that's that's what I saw.
Speaker 2: Did you have any concern at all that that might
Speaker 2: be the case that we've had twelve long weeks this
Speaker 2: is the thirteenth week.
Speaker 1: Man, where are they going to be physically? Where are
Speaker 1: they're going to be? Meantal, did you have a concern
Speaker 1: about that heading into the game, because.
Speaker 15: For sure, that's my concern, just when you go at
Speaker 15: it for such a long time, like it's draining, like
Speaker 15: especially physically on the body. We play a very physical sport.
Speaker 15: It's taxing on the body. And a lot of people
Speaker 15: don't see. I mean, you have these a lot of
Speaker 15: guys that are going through It may not be a
Speaker 15: really significant injury, but guys will have these nicks and
Speaker 15: bumps that they have to kind of fight through all
Speaker 15: the time, right, And I just have so much respect
Speaker 15: for the guys knowing that the pounding that they put
Speaker 15: on their bodies, and to go thirteen straight weeks without
Speaker 15: taking a break, and it was it was definitely in
Speaker 15: my mind like that we just have to push through
Speaker 15: and got to muster how to win even though our
Speaker 15: guys are physically exhausted.
Speaker 7: I want to go back to the end of the
Speaker 7: game for a moment because it's third and five and
Speaker 7: you said you're best running play, ready to go. But
Speaker 7: as the head coach, you also have to be ready
Speaker 7: for those tough decisions.
Speaker 6: What if it's fourth and one, fourth and.
Speaker 7: Two, are we gonna pun are we gonna go for
Speaker 7: it try to end the game that way.
Speaker 6: You always have to think ahead like that.
Speaker 15: Yeah, you always have to think ahead. Of course, every
Speaker 15: play you think this is gonna get the first down,
Speaker 15: but you're already kind of thinking of head and that situation, Like, man,
Speaker 15: I'm just whatever our best run is in that situation,
Speaker 15: I was thinking first down only, like, let's makes it
Speaker 15: we get But if we you know, we were in
Speaker 15: that situation and we had to punt the ball.
Speaker 3: We had to punt it and go play defense.
Speaker 1: Coach, you gave the offensive line of game ball.
Speaker 9: We talked about this a little bit.
Speaker 1: They got a couple of sacks.
Speaker 2: Early on, early game, early game, running not getting as much,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, it was that drive
Speaker 2: in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: We got this six to six.
Speaker 2: You had that five play drive and they opened up
Speaker 2: Joe that long run and they Joe scored in the
Speaker 2: next one. I feel like after that you really kind
Speaker 2: of broke the damn in a sense of running the football.
Speaker 2: When you went back and looked at the tape, how
Speaker 2: did you kind of assess what the offensive line was
Speaker 2: able to do?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that was it.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 15: They they stayed after it in the run game, the
Speaker 15: passing game. Like the protection I thought was really one
Speaker 15: of our best days of protecting. We got a few
Speaker 15: of the same pressures we've seen getting forward to a side.
Speaker 15: I thought our guys handled that really well. They communicated well,
Speaker 15: but overall they gave CJ toime in the protection piece.
Speaker 15: In the run game, I think we're just staying after it,
Speaker 15: staying after and kind of wearing those guys down. I
Speaker 15: think that's what really made us have a good day.
Speaker 3: In the running game.
Speaker 15: I mean, Laramie did a really great job playing physical
Speaker 15: all game, Juice had one of his better games, saw
Speaker 15: a step there and improving. Just guys are getting better,
Speaker 15: and that's what's so cool to see about. You know,
Speaker 15: where we are at this point in the season, to
Speaker 15: still speak about how we're improving and getting better down
Speaker 15: the stretch like that's it's encouraging to see how much
Speaker 15: better our team can be when everybody's firing on the
Speaker 15: same cylinder.
Speaker 7: Does it surprise even you how much of a leader
Speaker 7: Joe has been for this football team and how effective
Speaker 7: I'm field as well. I know you're expecting good things,
Speaker 7: but these are amazing things you're getting.
Speaker 3: Out of him.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean it's not surprising just watching him when
Speaker 15: it first came into the building, Like you just feel
Speaker 15: the guy who had confidence, right, so he was sure
Speaker 15: that he's gonna turn out. Yo, He's gonna get yards,
Speaker 15: he's gonna make plays. And you felt that. And he's
Speaker 15: been the same guy from my first interaction with him
Speaker 15: when he first stepped in the building until now. Like
Speaker 15: he brings that swagger I talk about all the time.
Speaker 15: You bring a swagger in a confidence that he brings.
Speaker 15: He brings it to our entire group, and I think
Speaker 15: the old line everyone feedes off it. They're asking, like,
Speaker 15: can we run the ball again? Because they know what
Speaker 15: Joe can create even if it's not there. It's one
Speaker 15: play where the Jacksonville Jaguard they lined up kind of
Speaker 15: on the wrong side and they got to overload to
Speaker 15: our left and we're running the ball to the left.
Speaker 15: But Joe's able to put a foot in the ground
Speaker 15: and create his own explosive run just by being, you know,
Speaker 15: a dynamic player playing with great visions. So when you
Speaker 15: have a guy like that, even though you're into a
Speaker 15: brick wall, he can hit put his foot in the
Speaker 15: ground and go make a play on his own.
Speaker 3: That's big time play.
Speaker 7: And this is kind of your vision for the offense,
Speaker 7: right because CJ Is still throwing the ball a lot,
Speaker 7: your top five in passing yards, your quarterback is and
Speaker 7: Joe's doing what he's doing third in the league in
Speaker 7: yards per game. So it's all kind of working together
Speaker 7: right now. You want to see that continue it is.
Speaker 15: It's about being having a balance attack right on offense. Right,
Speaker 15: we can throw it when we need to throw it,
Speaker 15: and also when you can run the ball, it just
Speaker 15: makes it easier. Right now, we wanted to lean heavy
Speaker 15: on our play action pass game versus the Jags. We're
Speaker 15: only able to do that because of what we can
Speaker 15: do in the running game. Like you can only get
Speaker 15: the second level defenders to step up if you're effective
Speaker 15: at running the football, and so.
Speaker 3: It goes hand in hand. Right running the.
Speaker 15: Ball leads to Nico being open in the middle of
Speaker 15: the field with no defenders around him. So we just
Speaker 15: continue to work on that, having balance and making sure
Speaker 15: we're executing on all phases.
Speaker 2: Katcho's asking about fatigue level at this point of the
Speaker 2: you're both mental and physical, and you were asked about
Speaker 2: the rookies.
Speaker 1: You know, they thirteen year row. I mean, that's tough
Speaker 1: to learn. They're learning the game.
Speaker 2: Thought about the rookies that have been on the field,
Speaker 2: I felt like even though yesterday got beat on the
Speaker 2: one touchdown, Kamari was involved in the run game all
Speaker 2: game all like.
Speaker 1: He was diving into plays.
Speaker 2: He was there and for our listeners out there, if
Speaker 2: they want to go see the difference and how you
Speaker 2: play it as a defensive back, watch the Jaguars defensive
Speaker 2: back on our last play with Joe Mixon.
Speaker 3: Around the ball.
Speaker 1: He won any part of that.
Speaker 2: Kamari wanted every piece of every Teal jersey that was
Speaker 2: coming his way. We've talked about what you like about him,
Speaker 2: but to see him doing that in week thirteen, I
Speaker 2: thought that was a really big feather in the cap.
Speaker 2: What do you think about how he played yesterday and
Speaker 2: when he gave you in the run defense.
Speaker 15: Yeah, his intensity and the way he shows up as
Speaker 15: a corner. The physicality is it's unmassed, Like you don't
Speaker 15: see corners stepping up in the run game the way
Speaker 15: Kamari does. Like in a way he just flies around
Speaker 15: to the football like it's fun to watch, and corners
Speaker 15: are physical and they're tackling. That's the makings of a
Speaker 15: physical defense. The same on the other side. I talk
Speaker 15: about Robert and his blocking on the perimeter, Like your
Speaker 15: receivers are blocking, your corners are tackling. That's physical football,
Speaker 15: right everybody else on the inside, that's a given. You
Speaker 15: have to play physical. He won't make it on the inside.
Speaker 15: But Kamari, Man, he flies around and he is fun
Speaker 15: to watch, so I love watching him play. He's man,
Speaker 15: he played a lot of snaps for us, being a rookie.
Speaker 15: You know, we threw him in there and he's he
Speaker 15: has n't blinked. He's made a lot of plays for us.
Speaker 15: He's still growing as a player, but man, I love
Speaker 15: his intensity on the field.
Speaker 7: Coach, I know you've been asked a lot about disease,
Speaker 7: but one thing about his character. You were asked about
Speaker 7: that as well. This is a phenomenal individual. Johnny and
Speaker 7: I were so impressed the first time we got to
Speaker 7: spend some time with him, and anybody would be if
Speaker 7: they do get that opportunity. I know it was a
Speaker 7: rough moment yesterday, but what about disease and moving forward
Speaker 7: and what he means to this football team.
Speaker 15: Yeah, these means everything to us. He's our leader, especially
Speaker 15: on the defensive side. He's our leader. He gets our
Speaker 15: guys going, he's that communicating the communicator on our defense.
Speaker 15: He's that quarterback of the defense. So he's everything to
Speaker 15: what we do and how we can be effective. As
Speaker 15: it takes him right and you don't have that Mike
Speaker 15: backer out there like you seeing in the game. Yes,
Speaker 15: we missed him, right, we missed his presence. He was
Speaker 15: on track to have a really good game, like he
Speaker 15: had a very productive day within nineteen snaps. I think
Speaker 15: he had like five tackles, so he's having a productive day.
Speaker 15: But as he's just the character and the guy he's
Speaker 15: he's such an amazing guy. He wish, you know, everybody
Speaker 15: could get to talk to him and know him, but
Speaker 15: he's he's a guy who wears his heart on his sleeve,
Speaker 15: like he really cares about others, like not only his teammates,
Speaker 15: but others like AZ's came from a rough upbringing, so
Speaker 15: he understands what it's like to not have and he
Speaker 15: wants to.
Speaker 3: Make sure he shares and helps others.
Speaker 15: And it's important to him and that's who he is
Speaker 15: as a man, and he's caring, he's loving, He's a
Speaker 15: great guy to talk to, very intelligent young man, and
Speaker 15: I just I love working with him. I was known
Speaker 15: his ease in twenty nineteen. I got a lot of
Speaker 15: conversations with a lot of toss diseases like family to me,
Speaker 15: Like he means a lot to me, And I know
Speaker 15: the type of player that he is. He plays physical,
Speaker 15: he plays fast, and that kind of gets it's shunned
Speaker 15: because of the game we play now today where people
Speaker 15: aren't playing as fast and physical as a ease and
Speaker 15: somebody gets hit and it's like, whoa wait a minute,
Speaker 15: can you still do that? Like, yeah, it's football. It's
Speaker 15: still a violent game. It's still a physical game. But
Speaker 15: you know, we all have a ease back and everything
Speaker 15: that he's doing, and I've talked to his ease.
Speaker 3: He's in a good spot.
Speaker 2: Coach at six to six in the third quarter, and
Speaker 2: you get the ball after they kick the field goal
Speaker 2: to tie it, and we've all talked about the second
Speaker 2: half scoring problems and all that kind of stuff, and
Speaker 2: then yeah, the screen that goes awry. But then in
Speaker 2: the next four plays might have been for your better
Speaker 2: offensive plays. You hit Nico on the route, inside route,
Speaker 2: Dalton goes up and over somebody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Joe hits the two.
Speaker 2: Runs back to back, and it felt like that was
Speaker 2: one of your better drives when you felt like when
Speaker 2: we felt like you needed one needed and it came
Speaker 2: up with the big drive. There was that kind of
Speaker 2: the way that you saw that five play sequence right there,
Speaker 2: that that.
Speaker 1: You had to have it and you got it.
Speaker 3: That's exactly how I saw it.
Speaker 15: It's been so much talked about our second half offense
Speaker 15: and the man, we definitely need this drive right now,
Speaker 15: and our playmakers are top players stood up and made plays,
Speaker 15: you know, Nico, Dalton, Joe, just for them to make
Speaker 15: those plays in that moment when we needed it most
Speaker 15: for us to get I think it was seventeen points
Speaker 15: in the second half when we haven't been scoring a
Speaker 15: lot of points in the second Man, it's impressive, and
Speaker 15: it goes to show like we're still improving, we're still growing,
Speaker 15: and we can be a good second half team right
Speaker 15: when we put it all together and just executing that
Speaker 15: shows right there we needed that drive. Offense stepped up
Speaker 15: and made it a big drive for us.
Speaker 7: All Right, it's bye week, but I have a feeling
Speaker 7: you're not gonna be sitting around in a Hawaiian shirt
Speaker 7: with an umbrella drink. Coach, I know that you're just
Speaker 7: spend time with a family, but there's work to do. Also,
Speaker 7: what about self scouting and all the stuff we hear
Speaker 7: about teams going through during bye week?
Speaker 6: What is there about that?
Speaker 15: Yeah, Well, with the self scouting, you go back through
Speaker 15: just your season or the last you go back through
Speaker 15: like the last four to six games to see just
Speaker 15: the things you've done well and see are there any
Speaker 15: tendencies that other teams may be picking up on that
Speaker 15: you can look at with a fresh set eye. Sometimes
Speaker 15: you get into the monotons this week, game plan onto
Speaker 15: the next. Sometimes you maybe lose sight on some of
Speaker 15: those fresh ideas that you need from studying other teams
Speaker 15: or just really taking a deep dive at yourself.
Speaker 1: So we'll look at ourselves, see.
Speaker 15: Where things we've done well, things we can change, and
Speaker 15: just see, you know, where we can lean in more
Speaker 15: on certain plays. But it's really a time to ref
Speaker 15: as coaches, So you can't come back with a set
Speaker 15: of fresh eyes as well.
Speaker 6: Coach, thanks a lot, I have a great bank you guys.
Speaker 2: All right, We get back the ultimate eleven plays and
Speaker 2: moments from the win over Jacksonville. I'll explain where this
Speaker 2: comes from next on Texans All Access.
Speaker 1: We go on final.
Speaker 2: Segment of this edition of Texans All Access, but we
Speaker 2: got more eight to nine. Mark's got you for a
Speaker 2: little bit more before we turn it over to Area
Speaker 2: forty five, which I don't know if it'll be Sean
Speaker 2: Bajanni and Patrick Crayton because I know that Sean did
Speaker 2: the morning show today with Seth, so not totally sure
Speaker 2: how that's gonna all go. That said, as it's in
Speaker 2: the previous segment. Every single Tuesday or your show called
Speaker 2: Texans Matchup, where a lot of time I do a
Speaker 2: lot of different things with it, but it's really a
Speaker 2: show that kind of looks back and kind of looking
Speaker 2: ahead all the same time. One of the things I
Speaker 2: love to do is I do the ultimate eleven plays
Speaker 2: in moments from the previous week's game, and thought, you
Speaker 2: know what, on a bye week Friday, the hell, let's
Speaker 2: go back and look at the all him to eleven
Speaker 2: plays of the win over Jacksonville and do it starting
Speaker 2: right here, no pun intended. As we get to number eleven,
Speaker 2: score zero zero Texans had to get some points up
Speaker 2: on the board. Drive stalled probably a little sooner than
Speaker 2: they wanted to, and out on the field, try to
Speaker 2: Kayme Fairbairn. And the last time we had seen Kye
Speaker 2: kick a field goal was that Energy Stadium was thirty yarder.
Speaker 2: It's when he makes his sleep. And he missed it.
Speaker 2: And I've never seen Kayemie react to a miss the
Speaker 2: way that he did that one against Tennessee.
Speaker 1: So when he tried it out here to line.
Speaker 2: It up from fifty three, I thought, man, I was
Speaker 2: cheering so hard for him. Inside, I'm just like, come on, Kymie,
Speaker 2: come on, baby, knock this one home. And he did.
Speaker 2: Fifty three yards out. Kymie knocked it home to give
Speaker 2: the Texas a three to nothing lead. He comes in
Speaker 2: number eleven and starts us.
Speaker 1: Off fifty three yard at tech left tash Mark.
Speaker 7: The snap is down, Fairbar's kick is on the way,
Speaker 7: and it's good.
Speaker 1: And the man who has.
Speaker 7: More fifty yard plus field goals in a season than
Speaker 7: anyone else in NFL history makes another one to get
Speaker 7: the first points of the game. Three nothing, Texans fourteen
Speaker 7: to fifty one to go in the second.
Speaker 1: All right, it's getting number ten.
Speaker 2: Now I've told you before, if Texas get beat, I
Speaker 2: pay homage at number ten for the visitors. But Texas
Speaker 2: didn't get beat, so I continue, that's right, and we
Speaker 2: go defense.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: This play, I think shows the impact of one Tim Settle.
Speaker 2: This play right here is a play that teams have
Speaker 2: tried to run onto Texans all year long. Some have
Speaker 2: had a little bit of success, not a ton but
Speaker 2: it's a trap play. And with the way that the
Speaker 2: Texans play their defense up front, defensive guys are penetrating
Speaker 2: a lot, they're going.
Speaker 1: A field, it's seemingly easy.
Speaker 2: To trap them. But Tim Settle played this run absolutely perfectly,
Speaker 2: blowing it up in the backfield early in the game
Speaker 2: to set the tone. Great play here, Tim Settle coming
Speaker 2: in at number ten.
Speaker 7: Wow, here's Lawrence under center second and eight from the
Speaker 7: Jacksonville eighteen one back et and they feed him again.
Speaker 1: And he's up Audrey.
Speaker 7: Now it wasn't Audrey was settled Settle from his defensive
Speaker 7: tackle spot, the former Bill just blasting into the backfield
Speaker 7: and bringing out atn to fourth third in law I.
Speaker 3: Thought he would have a good day to day.
Speaker 16: He's been dynamic as an inside pass rusher and starting
Speaker 16: to show those the run stopping abilities to go along
Speaker 16: with it all.
Speaker 1: Let's get to number nine, and it's an appreciation post.
Speaker 2: I guess that's a thing that the kids doing now
Speaker 2: a social media I say, kids, I guess I'm probably
Speaker 2: doing it too. I just probably don't do it as
Speaker 2: well like the other kids do, but I am doing
Speaker 2: it here. It's an appreciation for both Joe Mixon and
Speaker 2: the offensive line. He goes for over one hundred again
Speaker 2: on the ground. Offensive line I felt like had it's
Speaker 2: maybe its best game. Gave it two sacks early and
Speaker 2: then that was it. And then in the second half
Speaker 2: they really started breaking down the Jaguars defense. So Joe
Speaker 2: Mixon a couple of great runs here early in the game.
Speaker 2: You'll hear more from him a little bit later too,
Speaker 2: But here's Joe number nine.
Speaker 7: Texans get up to the line first down at the
Speaker 7: Jaguars twenty one, Stroud on their center with mixing in
Speaker 7: the backfield.
Speaker 1: CJ looks it over.
Speaker 7: Jack's loading up at the line, Stover in motion to
Speaker 7: the left side, hand off mix and running right, trying
Speaker 7: to shake by Attackler has a little room along the
Speaker 7: right side. Bye fifteen ten and push to the bounds
Speaker 7: at the eight yard line.
Speaker 1: First down.
Speaker 7: Run Johnson with the tackle and the Texans have a
Speaker 7: first in goal after that thirteen yard pickup by Joe
Speaker 7: mix at his best run of the day, IRV Smith
Speaker 7: lined up left CJ under center with Mixing in the backfield.
Speaker 1: First down at the Jacksonville thirty two yard line.
Speaker 7: Stover in motion to the left and they toss it
Speaker 7: to mix and running that way, trying to turn the corner,
Speaker 7: and does gets up the left sideline across the twenty
Speaker 7: five going to mark him out where close to a
Speaker 7: first down?
Speaker 1: He's got it.
Speaker 6: Ten yard run, Joe Mix it.
Speaker 2: All right, Let's get to the oat shoe and it's
Speaker 2: Jimmy War Jimmy stepping into that nickel position, and a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, there's ayah, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: consternation coming from Jimmy when he's playing in San Francisco
Speaker 2: and he didn't want to play the nickel.
Speaker 1: You want to play safety.
Speaker 2: And he's been playing safety here for the first couple
Speaker 2: of years and only stepped into a nickel role when
Speaker 2: something was going on with that position. A little bit
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, then he got banged up Mistress
Speaker 2: of the Year. But twenty twenty four that's been Jaalen
Speaker 2: Petrie's position, and Jalen has rocked it. Jalen has been
Speaker 2: absolutely fantastic, but lost him to injury, and that's a
Speaker 2: gutting injury, I mean, just a cut punch injury for
Speaker 2: a number of different reasons. But Jimmy knows how to
Speaker 2: play that position, and he plays the run like a
Speaker 2: monster when he is at that nickel spot. So number eight,
Speaker 2: here's Jimmy and oh yeah, I can hear Jimmy. Let's
Speaker 2: see if you know what movie.
Speaker 7: That's from Bigsby in the backfield Lawrence and they gotten
Speaker 7: first down Jackson from there.
Speaker 1: Twenty four here's bigs be.
Speaker 7: Tripped up in the backfield by Jimmy Ward. A TfL. Wow,
Speaker 7: great job by Jimmy.
Speaker 16: There are times that you know when he's playing this
Speaker 16: Petrie role and down in the box, this is what
Speaker 16: he likes to do.
Speaker 3: He there a TfL.
Speaker 16: For Jimmy Ward as he brings down Bigsby, who is
Speaker 16: tough to bring down at times.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to number seven, and this was
Speaker 2: one of my favorite drives of the game.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't really know why, other than it felt like
Speaker 2: the offense was finding its way, it was finding its rhythm.
Speaker 2: There was a nice, you know, smooth wave to it.
Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't rocky and all over the place.
Speaker 1: It just felt like it was really smooth.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: And CJ was throwing the pigskin man. He was doing
Speaker 2: a tremendous job throwing it. These three passes came on
Speaker 2: this one drive. Joe catches one of the backfield for nine.
Speaker 2: Then John Metchi caught one and I thought he was
Speaker 2: I didn't think he was down, so I'm like, John,
Speaker 2: get up and run.
Speaker 1: Well he did, and they.
Speaker 2: Got the first down, but then they had to move
Speaker 2: it back because apparently Antonio Johnson grazed him with the pinky.
Speaker 2: And then the final one and I always love being
Speaker 2: in position for these. This was an out route to
Speaker 2: Nico Collins on the last one, and Nico is running
Speaker 2: right at me, And I always wonder how hard it
Speaker 2: is for officials with that toe tap on the sideline,
Speaker 2: and I just happened to be right the right spot
Speaker 2: and being down there. As much as I am, I
Speaker 2: can train my eyes, and I have trained my eyes
Speaker 2: like watch his feet like I didn't see Nico catch
Speaker 2: the ball, He just looked at the feet. Did he
Speaker 2: get him in bank bank, Yes, got the toe tapper in.
Speaker 2: But it happened so fast. Man, I could see why
Speaker 2: officials aren't able to see that a lot of times
Speaker 2: because they're down the field.
Speaker 1: They're not right at that right spot where I happen
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 2: But man, it's one of those things that I won't
Speaker 2: forget because it's one of the reasons I love being
Speaker 2: down there because you see the action, like I see
Speaker 2: his feet go bang bang, and it's awesome. So on
Speaker 2: this drive, the Texas put points up on the board
Speaker 2: and they did it after these three throws from c J.
Speaker 2: Stroud to Joe Mixon, John Metchi and Nico Collins.
Speaker 7: Nico Collins short side right, CJ. Stroud shotgun with twenty eight,
Speaker 7: Joe mix into the backfield. Stroud fakes the gift. CJ
Speaker 7: has time, pumps throws to Mix in right side forty
Speaker 7: five and out of mounts with the forty two yard line,
Speaker 7: they pick up nine. The coverage by a Lucan on
Speaker 7: the running back mix in who could do it through
Speaker 7: the air on the ground any which way you please.
Speaker 7: Houston taking its sweet time huddling up. Metsch Nico and
Speaker 7: del go widside right, Stroud and the gun. Second down
Speaker 7: in fourteen for the Texans. Here's CJ in the pocket pumping,
Speaker 7: CJ scrambling. CJ in trouble, gets out of the jam,
Speaker 7: throws and this is caught by Metchi rolling catch inside
Speaker 7: the thirty two and he never got tagged down. Gets
Speaker 7: up and runs for the first down, and they'll mark
Speaker 7: him at the twenty six yard line.
Speaker 16: I think it was Tank dell Over telling him eight,
Speaker 16: you weren't touched, Get up and run.
Speaker 1: Yep, he didn't have the first down at the time.
Speaker 7: Monterk Brown brought him down and they'll mark him at
Speaker 7: the twenty six yard line. It's a nineteen yard pass
Speaker 7: play to John Metshie, first down at the Jacksonville twenty
Speaker 7: nine yard line.
Speaker 1: Offset Ie formation pierces in the game.
Speaker 7: CJ fakes to give a boot to the right side,
Speaker 7: there's pressure, He scrambles out further right, throws down field.
Speaker 7: It's Nico toe Tapper in the red zone, sixteen yard line,
Speaker 7: first down, Houston Texans, thirteen yards.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to number six and at number
Speaker 2: six at put number four Kamari Lassiter.
Speaker 1: Now I is the game is going on.
Speaker 2: I'm watching Kamari and I'm like, man, that dude's playing fearless,
Speaker 2: Like that's Kareem Jackson like stuff, diving into the phrase,
Speaker 2: you know, being forced contained on runs making tackles at
Speaker 2: number six is a TfL for Kamari. So I'm gonna
Speaker 2: play that for you. Then I want you to listen
Speaker 2: to the clip of a question that I asked Demiko
Speaker 2: about Kamaria after the game.
Speaker 1: But take a listen.
Speaker 2: This is at number six, Kamori last with a five yard TfL.
Speaker 7: Here's Jones and the gun. I'm third and three from
Speaker 7: the Houston seventeen. Jones takes the snap, hands off to Etn,
Speaker 7: running to the right side, lasting or chasing him down
Speaker 7: and pushing him out of allens at the twenty one
Speaker 7: yard line and loss on the player.
Speaker 1: There was a tough handoff here between Jones.
Speaker 7: Who tripped as he got the ball to Etn and
Speaker 7: the Texans blew up the plate immediately.
Speaker 1: Forcing a loss. Fourth down.
Speaker 7: They'll obviously go for it, but now it's fourth and
Speaker 7: eight instead of fourth and three or less.
Speaker 1: I absolutely love this dude, I'm telling you. I love
Speaker 1: Kamara Lasser.
Speaker 2: I love the way he plays, loved him at Georgia,
Speaker 2: and I was so glad that he became a Texan.
Speaker 2: But the one thing that really has stood out, I
Speaker 2: mean he covers well, I mean he's competitive, I mean
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, But he comes up and hits,
Speaker 2: he strikes. He wants to play physical out on the edge,
Speaker 2: and so that stood out to me in the game
Speaker 2: against Jacksonville. So I asked Demiko Ryans about that particular thing,
Speaker 2: and this is what he had to say.
Speaker 15: Yeah, his intensity and the way he shows up as
Speaker 15: a corner. The physicality is it's unmatched. Like you don't
Speaker 15: see corners stepping up in the run game the way
Speaker 15: Kamari does like and the way he just flies around
Speaker 15: to the football like it's fun to watch. And when
Speaker 15: your corners are physical and they're tackling, that's the makings
Speaker 15: of a physical defense. The same on the other side,
Speaker 15: I talk about Robert and his blocking on the perimeter,
Speaker 15: Like your receivers are blocking, your corners are tackling. That's
Speaker 15: physical football, right everybody else on the inside, that's a given.
Speaker 15: You have to play physical. He won't make it on
Speaker 15: the inside. But Kamari, Man, he flies around and he
Speaker 15: is fun to watch, so I love love watching him play.
Speaker 15: He's made play a lot of snaps for us, being
Speaker 15: a rookie. You know, we threw him in there and
Speaker 15: he's he has him blinked. He's made a lot of
Speaker 15: plays for us. He's still growing as a player, but man,
Speaker 15: I love his intensity on the field.
Speaker 2: All right, Let's get to number five and it's that man,
Speaker 2: Nico Collins, and I love seeing Nico get involved in
Speaker 2: the game early on. But I find fascinating is that
Speaker 2: one of his better games was the first one against
Speaker 2: Annapolis Colts. He had six catches for one hundred and
Speaker 2: seventeen yards, but he really didn't get involved until the
Speaker 2: deep ball in the second quarter. But he got involved
Speaker 2: early in this one against the Jacksonville Jaguars, and that
Speaker 2: probably was the right thing to do. In the first matchup,
Speaker 2: he had twelve catches for one hundred and fifty one
Speaker 2: yards in a tuddy and they got him involved early
Speaker 2: early in this one. First, he had this fifteen yarder
Speaker 2: to kick off his receiving.
Speaker 7: Game, first down from the Houston sixteen. Stroud under center
Speaker 7: mixing in the backfield. Shroud throws back to his left
Speaker 7: after looking right, and here's a pass to Nico breaking
Speaker 7: a tackle and take it man with him across the
Speaker 7: thirty to the thirty one yard line. Savage with the tackle,
Speaker 7: took a little sleigh ride with Nico Collins.
Speaker 1: First down, Houston fifteen yards.
Speaker 16: I hope the time that he missed doesn't hurt him,
Speaker 16: because I think he's putting together not only a Pro
Speaker 16: Bowl season, but an All Pro season. That's that's how
Speaker 16: good I think Nico Collins has been and what he
Speaker 16: means to this Texans offense.
Speaker 2: And then a little while later, he was running the
Speaker 2: deep over route and Tyson Campbell couldn't stay with him, stumbled, fell, slip,
Speaker 2: whatever it was, Nico wide open, big forty yard game
Speaker 2: that helped set up the first score of the game.
Speaker 1: Here's CJ to Nico. It's the second part of number five.
Speaker 7: Nico Collins short side left, Stroud under center, first down,
Speaker 7: Texans at their twenty five offset I formation. CJ back
Speaker 7: to throw, looking looking, firing downfield and wide open. Nico
Speaker 7: across the forty five right side and spun down at
Speaker 7: the thirty five yard lineup Jacksonville big play to number twelve,
Speaker 7: the hit by Monterrek Brown. This is good for forty yards.
Speaker 7: All right, Let's get to number four and move on
Speaker 7: to the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: Early in the fourth quarter, talking about a sixteen to
Speaker 2: six game at this point.
Speaker 1: And the Texans have shown a lot more in.
Speaker 2: The second half. Kick the kick field goal at a touchdown.
Speaker 2: They've taken a sixteen to six league. Defense is holding
Speaker 2: the jag Jags not really doing much with mac Jones
Speaker 2: at this particular point. I think I gotta put more
Speaker 2: points on the board, right, They gotta get more up
Speaker 2: on the board.
Speaker 1: And it was this drive right here that I loved.
Speaker 1: I loved this drive CJ.
Speaker 2: They didn't just go to a shell and just let
Speaker 2: CJ hand off the show. CJ is gonna sling it,
Speaker 2: and so two throws here on this drive that gave.
Speaker 1: Them a twenty three to six league.
Speaker 2: First, it was the deep out from CJ to Tank
Speaker 2: for twenty three yards. This was a nice, nice ball
Speaker 2: pitching catch, perfectly done right here.
Speaker 1: CJ. Stroud under center.
Speaker 7: Stroud fakes to give CJ throwing downfield and God is
Speaker 7: man at the thirty two yard line. Tank Dell first
Speaker 7: down Texans. Nice play of twenty three yards to the
Speaker 7: second year receiver out of the University of Houston.
Speaker 16: Yeah, and he beat a pretty good defender. He's been
Speaker 16: in this league a while. In Ronald Darby from the
Speaker 16: writer at Florida State in Tallahassee, now in his tenth year.
Speaker 1: The second part of number four.
Speaker 2: Takes me back to the game against Jacksonville last year
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, Week three. Tank had a big catch
Speaker 2: down the field that got Damien within the got Damien
Speaker 2: one yard touchdown. Late in the game, Tanks wide open
Speaker 2: on a third and three CJ hit some ballgame put
Speaker 2: thirty seven up on the board, beat the Jacks.
Speaker 1: Both of those were broken coverages.
Speaker 2: So in the offseason when the Jaguars went out and
Speaker 2: got Ryan Nielson as a defensive coordinator, who I thought
Speaker 2: was a fine defense coordinator with the aon Falcons, I thought, Okay,
Speaker 2: those days are over. They're not gonna blow coverages. Well,
Speaker 2: let me introduce you to the second part of number four.
Speaker 2: The Texans came out a bunch set three wide receivers
Speaker 2: over to the right side, and a very simple concept.
Speaker 2: As Dalton Schultz said, this is like training camp, like
Speaker 2: day one install, John Metchi drives up and across. Nico
Speaker 2: goes vertical, and because Mechi had gone across, he took
Speaker 2: like three, like three guys went with him. I don't
Speaker 2: know why three guys went with him. The corner stayed
Speaker 2: with Nico. Dalton went out to the flat and Dalt's
Speaker 2: on the.
Speaker 1: Flat gone, hey, hey, hey, hey, CJ. I'm over here.
Speaker 1: Well that was not the first read.
Speaker 2: So CJ went through his reads and like Mechi, no, Nico,
Speaker 2: no Dalton, Oh my god, and then zip zipped it
Speaker 2: out to Dalton gets to the end zone. This would
Speaker 2: be the last touch of the day, gave to Texas
Speaker 2: a twenty three to six lead.
Speaker 1: This is the second part of number four.
Speaker 9: CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud to Dalton Schultz.
Speaker 7: Third down and ten from the Jags twenty two yard line.
Speaker 7: Stroud shotgun one pack, daring bunch formation right.
Speaker 6: CJ takes the snap. Here's pressure Stroud flowing.
Speaker 1: To his right. He's got his man, Schultz. Five touchdown Houston.
Speaker 1: CJ to Schultz.
Speaker 7: And that's the second second half touchdown of this game.
Speaker 2: For all intents and purposes, at this point, the game
Speaker 2: was done. Yes, the Jaguars tacked on a couple of
Speaker 2: touchdowns to get it twenty three to twenty, but game
Speaker 2: was over at that point that Texas were able to
Speaker 2: hold on. But we'll get to a few more end
Speaker 2: of the game's sort of situations.
Speaker 3: But I'm goen.
Speaker 2: We go back to the first half for number three,
Speaker 2: and I'm just I just happened to be watching this
Speaker 2: particular route because I see Derek stingly press man against
Speaker 2: Bran Thomas Junior, and I'm like, oh, yeah, these are
Speaker 2: things I'd love to watch from field level, just man
Speaker 2: and man one on one and Thomas takes off and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I know stink can run, but I love
Speaker 2: when sting trails a little bit because he's just gauging.
Speaker 1: It's like he's ready to pounce.
Speaker 2: He takes a look up, sees where the ball is,
Speaker 2: he's where he is, looks back like he's managing all this.
Speaker 2: So as he's running, staying in phase with Brian Thomas Junior,
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence thought he had him, threw it deep.
Speaker 1: Derek Stingley goes up over the top and.
Speaker 2: Takes it away for his third interception of the year,
Speaker 2: and it comes in at number three.
Speaker 7: I'm third and eleven Lawrence in the gun, gets the snap.
Speaker 7: He's got a lot of time now. He throws long Dawnfield,
Speaker 7: got a man downfield, but it's intercepted by Derek Stinglee
Speaker 7: Junior running to his right thirty forty forty five fifty
Speaker 7: cutting to the left.
Speaker 1: Side of the field. That crossed a forty five.
Speaker 7: Yard out of the forty three as the hit is
Speaker 7: made by bigsby Derek Stinglee Junior with that takeaway.
Speaker 16: It's been a while, but now that's interception number three
Speaker 16: on the season for Stingley. Had a couple of his
Speaker 16: hands on a couple before this one in previous games.
Speaker 16: But that's what he does. He entices quarterbacks to throw
Speaker 16: over his head. But he's got closing speed and he
Speaker 16: knows exactly where he is in reference to the receiver
Speaker 16: and the football, and he can turn it on and
Speaker 16: close and finish.
Speaker 2: Close and finish is the exact right way to put
Speaker 2: exactly what Derek Stingley did right there at number three.
Speaker 2: I mean, just a tremendous play going up over the
Speaker 2: top to make that catch for a third interception of
Speaker 2: the year.
Speaker 1: Probably should have about six or seven at this point.
Speaker 2: I don't know why teams continue to try him, but
Speaker 2: they do and they're paying the price for it.
Speaker 1: And that was his third interception.
Speaker 2: Hopefullys putting together an all Pro year, worst case of
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl year. He definitely deserves it, no doubt. Okay,
Speaker 2: number two, number one. I went back and forth and
Speaker 2: I settled on this order. I'm not sure why. I
Speaker 2: think I know why. I'll tell you about it at
Speaker 2: number one, But at number two, to me is a
Speaker 2: five play drive when it's six to six. The Jaguars
Speaker 2: had kicked the field goal to start the second half
Speaker 2: after the Texans gone three and out start the second half,
Speaker 2: and kind of thought, son of a bee, here we
Speaker 2: go again.
Speaker 1: I can't do anything.
Speaker 2: Second half offense is just gonna go into hibernation again
Speaker 2: in the second half. But the Texas got the ball
Speaker 2: tied six to six. On the first down of this drive,
Speaker 2: they threw a screen and something looked weird about the screen.
Speaker 2: The ball then gets tipped. Savage dives for it. You
Speaker 2: can't get it, and I just remember thinking, man, that
Speaker 2: looks so ugly. God, can we get it going? And
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden it switched.
Speaker 3: The flip.
Speaker 2: The switch got flipped and four plays later, the Texans
Speaker 2: were in the end zone. First, it was a throw
Speaker 2: from CJ. Stroud to Nico Collins across the middle.
Speaker 7: Second and ten Texans from their thirty six to sixth
Speaker 7: game in the third, Stroud shotgun.
Speaker 1: Here's the snap, CJ firing.
Speaker 7: Over the middle, and he's got his man, Nico Collins,
Speaker 7: across the fifty to the forty seven yard line, and
Speaker 7: Nico is slow.
Speaker 1: To get up.
Speaker 6: He's hitting the head.
Speaker 3: Here's got hit in the back of the head, and.
Speaker 16: They may force him to the sideline is to get
Speaker 16: checked out.
Speaker 3: He's going on his own.
Speaker 7: Yeah, He's running off the field and Jared Wayne's gonna
Speaker 7: check in. Cisco had the hit on Collins, who's at
Speaker 7: the sideline holding his head. Twenty two yard play to
Speaker 7: the Jags forty eight yard line. Gotta move the football
Speaker 7: six to six, game, nine twenty five to.
Speaker 1: Go in the third. Then CJ found Dalton Schultz out
Speaker 1: in the right flat.
Speaker 2: Dalton leaped over a defensive back, got hammer by Traymon Walker.
Speaker 2: I'm laughing because Dalton's okay, but his post on Twitter
Speaker 2: afterwards was pretty awesome. It's from Hallidagan Night's the movie,
Speaker 2: which I love he talked about yep and his car's
Speaker 2: flying in the air, and that's what he Dalton felt
Speaker 2: when he was up in the air on this one.
Speaker 1: But he made the catch, ain't got a first down.
Speaker 1: It's the second play of this little four play run.
Speaker 7: Here's Stroud under center at the Jags forty eight first
Speaker 7: and ten CJ fakes.
Speaker 1: The Gibb throws back to his right.
Speaker 7: Shultz forty five hurdles a man across the forty first down.
Speaker 1: To the thirty seven yard line and he's down.
Speaker 3: He's slow to get up.
Speaker 16: Tried to hurtle someone and came right down on his shoulder,
Speaker 16: his shoulder and his neck, and boy, that is painful for.
Speaker 7: You're trying to make a play, Dre, but you sacrifice
Speaker 7: the body. And he's definitely holding his throat area as
Speaker 7: he gets up on his knees. And the medical team
Speaker 7: comes out to take a look, led by head athletic
Speaker 7: trader Roland Ramirez, and now we're looking at a replay.
Speaker 1: Boy.
Speaker 7: He hurdles Darby, but Darby gets hold of his left
Speaker 7: leg and he comes down hard, elbow and head on
Speaker 7: the ground as Pravon Walker got on top of him
Speaker 7: as he was coming down.
Speaker 2: Then it was time for Joe Mixon and the offensive
Speaker 2: line and the tight ends and the wide receivers, and
Speaker 2: I bring them all in because at various points in
Speaker 2: this game, the wide receivers and tight ends blocked their
Speaker 2: guts out, so they all always gets the recognition. But
Speaker 2: on this play, the old line did a tremendous job.
Speaker 2: On his zone play, Kate Stover hammered the backside with
Speaker 2: Laromy Tunsell. Joe cuts it back. The corner got in
Speaker 2: way too far. Joe cut outside of him. Thirty yards later,
Speaker 2: He's got the ball at the six yard line. It's
Speaker 2: the third part of number two first.
Speaker 7: Down at the thirty seven yard line of the Jags.
Speaker 7: Stroud under center, with Mixon in the backfield. Jagg's loading
Speaker 7: up the box. Here Dwayne short side right handoff Mixon
Speaker 7: starting right, cutting left thirty five thirty twenty five twenty
Speaker 7: to the left sideline and out of bounce inside the ten.
Speaker 1: First and goal Houston. Joe mixing his biggest run of
Speaker 1: the ten.
Speaker 16: Got all he could get, and with Darnelle Savage and
Speaker 16: a couple of other Jaguar defenders giving chase, he goes, well,
Speaker 16: I got all I can get. You got an angle,
Speaker 16: I'm just gonna step out of bounds right here. That's
Speaker 16: a nice run by Joe Mixon.
Speaker 7: Thirty yard run on the cutback, first and goal inside
Speaker 7: the seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, mark clarified at the seven, not quite the six,
Speaker 2: but either way, it was one more play and this
Speaker 2: time they didn't cut it back to the left.
Speaker 1: They just ran it to the left and they ran
Speaker 1: this beautifully.
Speaker 2: Larimy tons up on Ventrel Miller, Kate stole Over the
Speaker 2: great block on the edge.
Speaker 1: Juice on the inside.
Speaker 2: I mean, this play is blocked beautifully, and Joe Mixon
Speaker 2: sauntered in for a touchdown. They gave the Texans a
Speaker 2: thirteen to six lead, and it was just the second
Speaker 2: touchdown in the second half since the New England game. Man,
Speaker 2: this was awesome stuff from Joe Mixon, the offensive line,
Speaker 2: everybody involved in this one.
Speaker 1: To finish up number two.
Speaker 7: Stroud and the gun mix into his right, first and
Speaker 7: goal inside the seven, bunch formation right for the Texans.
Speaker 6: Stover in motion to left handoff, Joe running left.
Speaker 1: Across the five to the goal line. Touchdown Joston Joe Mixon.
Speaker 1: The Texans take the lead.
Speaker 7: And when they needed it most, there is the shot
Speaker 7: in the arm known as Joe mixon thirty yard run
Speaker 7: to set up first and goals seven yard run, Hello,
Speaker 7: end zone.
Speaker 2: So that leads me to number one. And I know
Speaker 2: you probably think in No. Eighty a second, I played
Speaker 2: both touchdowns. I mean I played pretty much every CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud to Nico Collins pass. CJ to Nico, got the
Speaker 2: touchdown to Schultz, Like what haven't I played the finish?
Speaker 2: The finish of this game was maybe the most important
Speaker 2: thing because it brought back that Week one feeling of
Speaker 2: being in Indianapolis up to you got the ball, Can
Speaker 2: you keep your defense off the field?
Speaker 1: Yes? Can you get a first down and then maybe
Speaker 1: another first down? Yes? And yes.
Speaker 2: On these two runs, Joe Mixon stuck a stake in
Speaker 2: the ground and said, Nope, we're finishing this game. The
Speaker 2: defense is not going back on a field that was
Speaker 2: a weary entire defense, and the offensive line, the tight ends,
Speaker 2: Robert Woods and Joe Mixon made sure that this one
Speaker 2: was going to end with them in victory formation at
Speaker 2: number one. Joe Mixon's, well, we'll start number one at
Speaker 2: two parts number one, he gets his fourteen yard run
Speaker 2: for a first down to put the Jaguars in peril.
Speaker 1: I formation behind CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 7: Second and two from the Houston thirty. Here's Woods in
Speaker 7: motion to the left. CJ takes the snap handoff, Mixon
Speaker 7: running left, has a little hole thirty five forty left
Speaker 7: sideline and brought down at the forty.
Speaker 1: Four yard line.
Speaker 7: Joe Mixon Cisco with the hit, first down, run fourteen yards, reload.
Speaker 2: And then needing five yards to shut it down completely.
Speaker 2: Texas handed to Joe three tight ends on the field.
Speaker 2: Full back in the backfield Kate.
Speaker 1: Stover old school pro.
Speaker 2: I just run lead sown to the left side and
Speaker 2: go finish it. And that's what they did. And this
Speaker 2: is the second part of number one.
Speaker 1: As CJ will get up to the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: I formation.
Speaker 7: Third down and five across the Houston forty nine yard line.
Speaker 7: Mixon the tailback. Here's the toss to Joe running left,
Speaker 7: has room. He's got it across the forty two to
Speaker 7: the forty one.
Speaker 1: That's gonna do it.
Speaker 7: The tech he says, we'll kill the clock and they
Speaker 7: will beat Jacksonville today. Toss to Joe Mixon, got the blocks,
Speaker 7: got the run, got the first down, and got the.
Speaker 2: W tremendous stuff, tremendous UL three eleven, and man, what
Speaker 2: a fun, fun.
Speaker 1: Show it's been to put together, even on a bye week.
Speaker 2: Appreciate everybody that was involved on my guys back at
Speaker 2: Sports Radio six ten.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: We'll see you on Monday as we gear up for
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins in the final stretch of the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four season.
Speaker 1: Seeing that everybody, and as always, go Texans.
Speaker 7: Hello Texans, Welcome to the Bonus Hour, the weekly Bonus
Speaker 7: Hour of Texans Radio. Here Friday night, eight o'clock. We
Speaker 7: huddle together. If you're listening to this on a podcast
Speaker 7: later on, well we appreciate that as well. But we've
Speaker 7: got a lot to get to tonight because it's been
Speaker 7: a busy night already. You already heard from Nick Cassario, Jamiko, Ryan's,
Speaker 7: numerous coaches, players, all of it in the first couple
Speaker 7: of hours. It's bye week, so we're sort of reviewing
Speaker 7: some of our content. Obviously, we talked a lot this
Speaker 7: week about the suspension and everything else. Look back to
Speaker 7: it on Monday when this team gets back to work
Speaker 7: and prepares for the Miami Dolphins in those three games
Speaker 7: that they have in eleven days. It is gonna be
Speaker 7: huge coming up starting Monday, and it's all gonna go
Speaker 7: very fast from there, the final four games of the
Speaker 7: season and then the postseason. But you're not there yet,
Speaker 7: you haven't clinched.
Speaker 1: You gotta do it.
Speaker 7: The Colts they can't help you this weekend because they
Speaker 7: have a bye as well.
Speaker 1: That's the fact.
Speaker 7: So Texans and Colts they do a lot of things together,
Speaker 7: Like they'll always play the same NFC Division teams on
Speaker 7: the road in the same year. So the Colts went
Speaker 7: to Green Bay already those kinds of things. They went
Speaker 7: to Minnesota and they relived the blown lead of what
Speaker 7: was that last year? My gosh, it seems like a
Speaker 7: lot longer ago than that, but that's the case.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 7: In this hour, we'll hear from David Fletcher, later general
Speaker 7: manager of the Kinders Texas Bowl. But first Andre War
Speaker 7: at Indy Kalou. They're on every week Exans Monday. Indeed
Speaker 7: does the preseason color commentary, Andrey does you know what
Speaker 7: Andrey does? He does color commentary and the Texans radio network.
Speaker 7: He's got a game tomorrow, I think is the MAC
Speaker 7: Championship in Detroit. Anyway, we had a lengthy visit went
Speaker 7: over a bunch of things regarding the Texans, regarding their lives,
Speaker 7: a whole bunch of other stuff. We are going to
Speaker 7: jump in mid conversation, and we were talking about, of
Speaker 7: all things, the Dallas Cowboys when they used to do
Speaker 7: that offensive line up and down move. We were talking
Speaker 7: about old school football stuff. We were talking about coaches
Speaker 7: like bum Phillips and Don Schulette and the branding of
Speaker 7: those guys, Tom Lantry. So we started off with that
Speaker 7: Dallas part of the conversation. Remember they used to do
Speaker 7: in the offensive lineman up and down before the snap.
Speaker 7: Why don't any Why doesn't anybody do that anymore?
Speaker 3: I don't know's it used to look sweet as all
Speaker 3: get up. Yeah, it really loved it.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 16: It was kind of emulated in the in the you
Speaker 16: playing sandline football, grass live football, whatever.
Speaker 3: You want to call it. We do it on the
Speaker 3: street as well.
Speaker 16: And if play the game where if you get close
Speaker 16: to the grass, that's when you can hit a guy. Yes,
Speaker 16: you never go towards the sideline because that's when they
Speaker 16: can unload on you.
Speaker 3: But it was that was just sweet. I bet it's
Speaker 3: creative it was sweet.
Speaker 16: It was They were the first to really use, uh
Speaker 16: start using really technology to help in scouting players and
Speaker 16: things of that sort, and you know, streamlining a lot
Speaker 16: of it.
Speaker 7: I got to say that that era of football coaches
Speaker 7: had brand identity.
Speaker 1: Bum Phillips.
Speaker 7: Bum Phillips was his own brand, Tom, his own brand,
Speaker 7: Chuck Nole, you know these guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was exactly right.
Speaker 7: Don Shula his face is a logo. I mean it's
Speaker 7: one of those guys, right. His grandson, Chris Shula is
Speaker 7: the defensive coordinator for the Rams, and they were here
Speaker 7: for practice this summer and he kind of has that
Speaker 7: Shula face, you know, those those jaws, the same way
Speaker 7: with a hat exactly, Paul Brown, Lombardi. And remember when
Speaker 7: Mike Nolan wanted to wear a tie when he was
Speaker 7: head coach of the forty nine ers and they actually
Speaker 7: let him do it because his dad did it.
Speaker 6: And there should be more of that. I like Demiko
Speaker 6: with the red dry fit.
Speaker 16: He usually wears the red coach at at Minnesota pj
Speaker 16: F College.
Speaker 3: He wears a time like.
Speaker 7: See that's good, Harball as the Michigan coach kind of
Speaker 7: had that brand look.
Speaker 16: Was in his mind you know, thought he was resurrect
Speaker 16: and yeah, something he just started to look like him,
Speaker 16: dressed like him, had that academic like everything.
Speaker 1: It was crazy.
Speaker 17: Yeah, the Belichick was probably the last one with that brand.
Speaker 17: With the cutoff sweatshirt. Yeah, the hoodie, Yeah, the hoodie
Speaker 17: and the cut off sleeves.
Speaker 7: And now it feels like the league makes them all
Speaker 7: wear the same thing on Sundays. It feels like it's
Speaker 7: just you know, but Demiko, I like the red dry fit. See,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell the equipment guys here. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 7: Darwin he should always have red. Okay, that's that's what
Speaker 7: we should lobby for.
Speaker 3: He always has no.
Speaker 1: But he some games.
Speaker 6: I think he was wearing the salute to service.
Speaker 16: I wonder is one of those closer attention to this.
Speaker 16: Yeah you wear red until you get beat.
Speaker 3: Yeah you beat again, you switch back.
Speaker 7: Yeah, don't mess with a winning street. But question for
Speaker 7: both of you guys, because you know we're just here
Speaker 7: talking all right, this is the Players Show, but no
Speaker 7: player availability this week. So we've got a former player
Speaker 7: andre Ware and any Kalou of course, but you guys,
Speaker 7: as former players, both of you have this in common.
Speaker 7: You've built great careers after playing NFL football, right, great
Speaker 7: careers and different careers. All right, Dre obviously great broadcaster.
Speaker 7: I know you have other interests too, You're not going
Speaker 7: to talk about them, and I know you have other
Speaker 7: things going on. You got other irons in the fire
Speaker 7: or whatever. Yeah, but anyway, what does that take? And
Speaker 7: why don't more guys set themselves up better for post play?
Speaker 7: It's difficult because I know you have to pour yourself
Speaker 7: into your pro football career. But as we all know,
Speaker 7: no matter what age you retire, even Tom Brader, you're
Speaker 7: still a pretty young man relatively. I mean he might
Speaker 7: be on you know, the oldest one, but most guys
Speaker 7: are in their thirties at best. If you're in your thirties, hell,
Speaker 7: you've had a tremendous career. When you retire, what does
Speaker 7: it take?
Speaker 17: Well, the reason why a lot of guys don't prepare
Speaker 17: themselves and you know their blessing is their curse. You
Speaker 17: have to be a little bit detached from reality to
Speaker 17: make it to the NFL. You have to have a
Speaker 17: mindset where most average people are the common person are
Speaker 17: going to be like, man, he's crazy. You know, how's
Speaker 17: this kid from Dickinson think he's gonna win the Heisman
Speaker 17: when he goes to you of age. But you have
Speaker 17: to have that unrealistic mindset just to make it to
Speaker 17: the NFL. And I also think that hurts you because
Speaker 17: while you're in the NFL, you're thinking, oh, I'm going
Speaker 17: to sign three more contracts, I'm gonna sign the one
Speaker 17: hundred million dollar deal, and I don't really have to
Speaker 17: worry about life after football because you feel like you're
Speaker 17: gonna be great and that's what got you there. But
Speaker 17: it's tough to throw in being real with yourself. So
Speaker 17: for me, I can't speak for anybody else, and everyone
Speaker 17: has a different story. Being an undersized fifth round pick
Speaker 17: from Rice. I even go in, as stupid as it
Speaker 17: may sound, I went into the NFL thinking I'm going
Speaker 17: to be a Hall of Famer. You know, we can
Speaker 17: laugh about it now, but I really thought I was
Speaker 17: gonna be a Hall of Famer. Yeah, yeah, that's the mentality.
Speaker 17: And after a while, I said, Okay, you know what
Speaker 17: reality hit after like year five or six. You know,
Speaker 17: I want to play as long as I can, but
Speaker 17: I also want to make sure when I'm done playing,
Speaker 17: I don't have to work for anybody. So then that's
Speaker 17: when I started, you know, when got my real estate
Speaker 17: license and became a broker in the off season and
Speaker 17: started buying apartments houses. I still thought I could be great,
Speaker 17: but I just knew that the end was gonna come.
Speaker 17: But with some of these players, especially the ones that
Speaker 17: start early on, you know, they're not thinking about what
Speaker 17: am I going to do in ten years. Their thought
Speaker 17: is I'm going to sign three four deals, be set
Speaker 17: for life and not have to worry about life after football.
Speaker 17: And I understand it because I was there. But at
Speaker 17: some point you do have to start thinking about life
Speaker 17: after and it's never easy. Even when I had things
Speaker 17: set up when I was done in two thousand and nine,
Speaker 17: it still took a couple of years to accept the
Speaker 17: fact that I wasn't a football player anymore.
Speaker 16: It's a great way to put it because I'm jotting
Speaker 16: down some notes and the one thing I think a
Speaker 16: lot of players miss when they are drafted, when and
Speaker 16: family members really miss this that are around a player
Speaker 16: after he's drafted and he's in the NFL, that it's
Speaker 16: never your decision when it's over. Everybody goes into it
Speaker 16: thinking I'm going to retire at this age and do it.
Speaker 16: I think you got this beautiful picture mapped out, and
Speaker 16: it's never your decision when it's over with, And it
Speaker 16: can be over as early as after high school. It
Speaker 16: can be over after you're done in college, or you're
Speaker 16: lucky and you get to play x amount of years
Speaker 16: in the NFL. But at some point somebody's going to
Speaker 16: say you're not good enough. And guys have a hard
Speaker 16: time accepting that. Then you got to be real with
Speaker 16: yourself when it's over, and they keep chasing it for
Speaker 16: a while, or keep trying to live the same lifestyle
Speaker 16: they live when they were playing, And there's a lifestyle
Speaker 16: you have to live when you're playing to know that
Speaker 16: you're setting yourself up for later on in life.
Speaker 3: You're not spending it. You're not you know, the guy
Speaker 3: that's buying the bottle.
Speaker 16: Every bottle service every time you guys go out and
Speaker 16: have a good time, or you're you know, you're taking
Speaker 16: care of the bill. Every money runs out. You can
Speaker 16: spend it making millions, you can run. It can run
Speaker 16: out on you.
Speaker 6: What's the percentage of lottery winners who go bankrupt?
Speaker 3: It's winners.
Speaker 16: And then you got to you gotta get into something
Speaker 16: that you're passionate about, that you really you really love
Speaker 16: to do, and it's not a lot of guys find
Speaker 16: themselves chasing what they used to make and that can
Speaker 16: get you in a lot of trouble as well. You
Speaker 16: start chasing money. Yeah, you got to have taken carry
Speaker 16: yourself on the front end while you're playing. That gives
Speaker 16: you the opportunity to really hand pick what you want
Speaker 16: to do in your next career and then from there
Speaker 16: you find something that you're passionate about.
Speaker 17: I'll say this, there's a lot of positive and successful examples,
Speaker 17: but you know, we tend to focus on the negatives,
Speaker 17: and a lot of the guys that I know who
Speaker 17: are having success post playing career, they're not the biggest names,
Speaker 17: so they kind of, you know, had my mentality.
Speaker 16: But it's kind of like the guys that you played
Speaker 16: with in college. The stars aren't the ones that are
Speaker 16: necessarily go on to do X, Y and Z and
Speaker 16: run corporations exactly and become doctors.
Speaker 3: It's the walkomeicker guys played.
Speaker 16: They're the most successful, more successful in terms of the
Speaker 16: life or lifestyles that that were on the call on
Speaker 16: your teams in.
Speaker 7: College, and often coaches are like that too. Not all
Speaker 7: the time, but that often happens. Dray, how did you know?
Speaker 7: How did you because you handled yourself well? How did
Speaker 7: you know how to handle yourself as far as being
Speaker 7: a pro and then transitioning into not being a professional
Speaker 7: athlete anymore and building your life.
Speaker 16: I think it just goes back to how you were raised.
Speaker 16: There's there's an arrogance that can come with playing professional
Speaker 16: sports that you have to get over once it's once
Speaker 16: it's once you're done. I've seen guys that have acted
Speaker 16: like a holes while they were playing, and then all
Speaker 16: of a sudden they need to get into a certain
Speaker 16: industry and people remember how you acted when you were playing.
Speaker 16: So I just respect everybody, and that's how I did
Speaker 16: it along the way, when you're at your highest peak,
Speaker 16: and as you're transitioning, you you're the same way, And
Speaker 16: I would say, just be consistent and the way you
Speaker 16: treat people so that doors will open for you. Because
Speaker 16: you were in d Kalu or Mark Vandermer, this awesome
Speaker 16: quarterback that played X amount of years. Oh heck, yeah,
Speaker 16: he's trying to transition into what we're doing. Yeah, that
Speaker 16: is a little bit easier to open, and you can
Speaker 16: kind of handpick which one you want to go through.
Speaker 16: But if you're the a hole, those doors don't open
Speaker 16: nearly as fast. Yeah, I mean yeah, people remember, they
Speaker 16: remember interactions. Will I will meet somebody in my weekly
Speaker 16: travels that I've met fifteen twenty years ago, and I
Speaker 16: took a picture with their daughter and spent time. But
Speaker 16: you know, I knew the car was getting ready to
Speaker 16: leave and you were in a hurry, but you you
Speaker 16: took the time to take this picture with my daughter.
Speaker 16: They show it to you and they're appreciative of it.
Speaker 16: And so that's that's kind of an example of if
Speaker 16: you needed that guy, you don't treat everybody the same
Speaker 16: because you don't know when you're gonna need somebody.
Speaker 7: It's got to be tough, though. When you guys were
Speaker 7: players and people want a picture.
Speaker 16: Or a crap, I signed every one of them if
Speaker 16: I could, because one some day they're gonna stop asking. Yeah,
Speaker 16: And that's that's kind of how how I tell my
Speaker 16: so is, well, why do you sign all of them?
Speaker 16: And this that because one day they won't ask, but
Speaker 16: you want to keep them asking. But the fastest way
Speaker 16: they won't ask is to say no, and then that
Speaker 16: starts to spread itself around.
Speaker 3: And all the way to the internet and all that
Speaker 3: Now that gets spread pretty quick.
Speaker 7: And dy Kalu and Andre Ware visiting on Texans Radio
Speaker 7: this week, and we're gonna have more of that conversation
Speaker 7: coming up, including stuff about the booth, stuff about Andre's
Speaker 7: high school career. Why did he choose football? He was
Speaker 7: drafted in baseball as well, also played basketball. Are all
Speaker 7: the kids playing three sports these days? No, most of
Speaker 7: them are not. We'll talk about all that stuff. It's
Speaker 7: coming up here on Texans Radio. Great to have you
Speaker 7: listening tonight to the Bonus hour of Texans Radio Friday night,
Speaker 7: eight o'clock hour. We go over some of the best
Speaker 7: content of the week and Andre Wear and dy Kloud's
Speaker 7: visit outstanding. Let's continue with some of that conversation with
Speaker 7: going back to Dickinson High School. Andre's high school career,
Speaker 7: drafted in baseball, played basketball.
Speaker 1: Obviously played a little football. Let's dig it.
Speaker 3: Mark wants to go way back. He was to go
Speaker 3: way back.
Speaker 7: Because I love these stories because, uh, Dickinson High School
Speaker 7: and you played for dub Ferris, that was your coach
Speaker 7: and when we did the morning show together from seven
Speaker 7: through oh nine, which, man, as I say that, it
Speaker 7: sounds like a long time ago down Dre, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 7: but it feels like ten minutes ago that we did that.
Speaker 3: Show eighteen years ago. Man, that's holy crap. And I
Speaker 3: remember listening to you everything. Yeah, that flies by you,
Speaker 3: but you you.
Speaker 7: Would impart and it was great. And I gotta say this,
Speaker 7: Dre was an excellent morning host. Excellent.
Speaker 3: So once I learned how to wake up, once you
Speaker 3: learned how to drink.
Speaker 6: Once I once I corrupted you with coffee, and I'm.
Speaker 3: Still drinking it to this. Sorry twenty something years later.
Speaker 7: Sorry, that's sorry, but I'm not I'm not just saying
Speaker 7: this because you're here. I just think that people got
Speaker 7: to know a different side of you, right, you know,
Speaker 7: they knew you as the Heisman Trophy winner, NFL guy broadcaster, great,
Speaker 7: great game broadcaster, national TV, Texans Radio great, but just
Speaker 7: being able to tell stories, you know, sit there for
Speaker 7: four hours a day and tell stories and Dub Ferris,
Speaker 7: your high school coach playing at Dickinson, the Gators, all
Speaker 7: that stuff. There were people calling and who remembered you
Speaker 7: from those days.
Speaker 1: But what would those.
Speaker 7: Days like playing high school ball there and Dickinson. They've
Speaker 7: kind of improved the facility since just a little bit, just.
Speaker 3: A little bit.
Speaker 16: No, it's it's fabulous and Dickinson will always be home
Speaker 16: for me. It's why, like I don't understand how guys
Speaker 16: transferred so much in college, because where do you call home,
Speaker 16: you know, after you played in eight places or however
Speaker 16: many they're playing now.
Speaker 3: But it's a special place for me.
Speaker 16: I got the chance to go to breakfast last week
Speaker 16: with Coach Ferris, and he and Miss Ferris, and we
Speaker 16: were in San Antonio, had a game that night, and
Speaker 16: we sat down and got I wish we had more time,
Speaker 16: you know. It was just one of those where I
Speaker 16: had a late morning zoom production meeting for the game
Speaker 16: that night and had had to zoom or get.
Speaker 3: Out of there.
Speaker 16: But he is as passionate about the game of football
Speaker 16: as as he's ever was. I wish that every young
Speaker 16: man that puts a helmet on will have the relationship
Speaker 16: that I have with my high school coach, because it's
Speaker 16: a special one in a sense that when I was young,
Speaker 16: he became kind of my father figure and he calls
Speaker 16: me his son.
Speaker 3: Now and I call him Dad and things of that sort.
Speaker 16: It's a deep relationship that you know, my father passed
Speaker 16: when I was six years old, So I learned a
Speaker 16: lot in a short period of time from him. From
Speaker 16: the time I met him in seventh grade, he had
Speaker 16: my attention. We came in as freshman and he sits
Speaker 16: us down on this mat where I've seen numerous guys
Speaker 16: throw up from off season workouts, and he tells me,
Speaker 16: tells all of us, it's either my way or I'm
Speaker 16: going to get you out of here, and if you
Speaker 16: want to play, you adapt. And I wish things were
Speaker 16: that more so that way. In today world you can't
Speaker 16: even talk to kids like that, And nowadays he'd run.
Speaker 3: You off for ear rings and things of that sort.
Speaker 16: And it was just he I think he's I forget
Speaker 16: the number that he told me in his first class
Speaker 16: that he had there, but by the time it may
Speaker 16: have been seventy something players, and by the time they
Speaker 16: got out of camp and offseason and he had twenty two.
Speaker 16: They went both ways and they were competitive, but that's
Speaker 16: the individual he was. So a lot of how I
Speaker 16: am is because of how he was and how I
Speaker 16: got it from him.
Speaker 3: He was tough.
Speaker 16: That's the way I coached. But he was fair and
Speaker 16: he always let you know up front what his expectations were.
Speaker 16: And so when coaches coached that way and they tell
Speaker 16: you and they're honest with you, and they're upfront with you,
Speaker 16: you can deal with it because now you know. Now
Speaker 16: I've got the blueprint, I know what I need to
Speaker 16: go do. But when you're dishonest, that's when players don't
Speaker 16: trust you and you have a lot of animosity in
Speaker 16: the locker room. But that was never that way for me, Dickinson.
Speaker 16: The way things turned out, I would not change one
Speaker 16: thing about how I grew up, how I played, how
Speaker 16: we won our lost games. It was an experience and
Speaker 16: I think you win, you gain more from losing, and
Speaker 16: you learn more from losing than you ever will winning
Speaker 16: because you won't change if you're winning.
Speaker 3: You know what's interesting.
Speaker 17: I'm on the outside looking in, but my sons have
Speaker 17: played against Dickinson, and I believe this started with your coach.
Speaker 17: The culture he said, I've left every time we've played Dickinson.
Speaker 17: It's been multiple times, thinking, God, dog, they're physical, they
Speaker 17: play hard, they play hard, they're physical, and they battle
Speaker 17: and as you're telling this story, I'm thinking, I bet
Speaker 17: you that's where it started.
Speaker 16: And he created that film the kind of laid the
Speaker 16: groundwork for that stuff. Coach Nelson is and here very
Speaker 16: close to this day as well. Coach Nelson I think
Speaker 16: is the head of the High School Coaches Association and
Speaker 16: they meet in San Antonio, I think every year. But
Speaker 16: you know, it's one of those things where if you
Speaker 16: go down there to play a game, you're gonna know
Speaker 16: you played in the football game. And they're they're a
Speaker 16: little bigger and faster than we were. But we were small,
Speaker 16: quick and tough, and that was that was how we played.
Speaker 7: So you played baseball, you played basketball too, right, and
Speaker 7: so you played all three sports.
Speaker 6: And ran track and ran track.
Speaker 3: So I would I would run a track meet on
Speaker 3: a Saturday morning and then that night go pitch. Oh
Speaker 3: my gosh.
Speaker 16: And it's it's crazy in today's world with all this.
Speaker 16: You know, you got to specialize in this specialization where
Speaker 16: you got to get down to one sport and that's
Speaker 16: the only one that you should.
Speaker 3: You should play.
Speaker 16: Every sport helps the other. Track helps with football, that's
Speaker 16: where you gain your speed. Basketball helps with hand and
Speaker 16: eye coordination, all of that stuff. So it's it's uh,
Speaker 16: I think it's a it's you're doing kids a disservice
Speaker 16: by not allowing them to play everything. And then you
Speaker 16: get to high school you figure out which one or
Speaker 16: two that that you want to play or if you
Speaker 16: want to keep doing what I did and played all
Speaker 16: play all.
Speaker 2: Four do it?
Speaker 7: Wow, well baseball you were really good at baseball and
Speaker 7: you were drafted.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so take us through that. How baseball worked for
Speaker 6: you getting drafted and you didn't consider it.
Speaker 16: I didn't even consider it because my mom said, hey,
Speaker 16: you're going to college. And it was a non it
Speaker 16: was a it was non negotiable. But I could throw
Speaker 16: it back. Then I could pitch. I played in the
Speaker 16: district that had really talented players in it. Randy Pryor
Speaker 16: went off to A and m Kirk dressing door for
Speaker 16: ended up in the A's rotation and when we played Parland,
Speaker 16: both of them played at Periland High School. When we
Speaker 16: played them, it was it was it was packed and
Speaker 16: a lot of scouts there. I remember the scout from
Speaker 16: the Dodgers at the time telling me that I'd run
Speaker 16: the fastest time from home to first that he that
Speaker 16: he timed at that point, and so baseball was my grandfather.
Speaker 16: If he God bless his soul, he would tell you
Speaker 16: to this day that he thought it would be baseball
Speaker 16: that I would play professionally.
Speaker 3: Not football.
Speaker 16: And I think football became one of those things where
Speaker 16: I wanted to play quarterback. I knew that it didn't
Speaker 16: have a long life, my lifeline, but I wanted to
Speaker 16: play it anyway. And so when I was a youngster
Speaker 16: in seventh grade, I loud talked my way into basically
Speaker 16: a tryout outside the coach's office. I said, God, I
Speaker 16: wish he would let me play quarterback, just to give
Speaker 16: me a shot.
Speaker 3: And he heard me.
Speaker 16: Coach Holmes heard me, and so the next day at
Speaker 16: practice he asked me to stay after and I was
Speaker 16: just like, oh damn, he's getting ready.
Speaker 3: He heard me.
Speaker 16: He's getting ready to run me to death. He just
Speaker 16: wanted to see me throw. And after that he moved
Speaker 16: me to quarterback. That was kind of the really yeah,
Speaker 16: But I was set to play at U of H.
Speaker 16: I broke my arm my freshman year, so obviously I
Speaker 16: had to get I was there to play football. I
Speaker 16: had to get my spot back and went through the
Speaker 16: spring rather than playing baseball that spring.
Speaker 17: Let me ask you that. Obviously, we grew up in
Speaker 17: two different areas. I grew up in San Antonio, you're
Speaker 17: in Dickinson. But like you, I'm a multiple sport guy,
Speaker 17: track basketball, but baseball was never even on my radar,
Speaker 17: So like, how was it introduced to you? And you know,
Speaker 17: I don't want to make this controversial bit. I always
Speaker 17: loved it.
Speaker 16: We played what was it stickball or whatever with a
Speaker 16: tennis ball and a bat and growing up and I
Speaker 16: loved it so much that I would talk guys into
Speaker 16: playing me two on one where you had one base
Speaker 16: and I tried. You know, if I got them out,
Speaker 16: I would bat. You know, I would never get out
Speaker 16: because they couldn't catch me. And it just became a
Speaker 16: love when I was For me at about the age
Speaker 16: of eight, when I started playing, and my grandparents would
Speaker 16: take me to games for practice, I had two coaches
Speaker 16: that would pick me up. Jim and Matt Baker were
Speaker 16: my little league baseball coaches. My second year, they moved
Speaker 16: me up. We had a it was a tear system,
Speaker 16: the American Texas and National League. I went from the
Speaker 16: American League playing my first year on the machine to
Speaker 16: the National League where you just skip right over the
Speaker 16: league and you're you're in the best of the best.
Speaker 16: And I played in that league for three straight years.
Speaker 16: That's where my taste for baseball all came from. And
Speaker 16: they would put me on the back of a truck,
Speaker 16: pick me up, take me to practice, put me on
Speaker 16: that same truck, bring me back home. I jump off,
Speaker 16: thank them, and do the same thing the next day.
Speaker 16: And so that's why to this day, if kids need
Speaker 16: a ride that play for me, I what's it called,
Speaker 16: I reciprocate, I pay it forward, I go back and
Speaker 16: uh and hopefully they will do the same thing for
Speaker 16: some kid once they become coaches or they're influential in
Speaker 16: a kid's life. But that's how that's why I do it,
Speaker 16: and that's why I do some of the things I
Speaker 16: do for the kids that play for.
Speaker 3: You brought up a memory we don't see.
Speaker 17: I used to have a coach, Coach Washington, pick us
Speaker 17: up for a track and we had like eight people
Speaker 17: in the back of a pickup going across town.
Speaker 3: And we don't even think about it, but I've that
Speaker 3: you get a big ticket as long as you put together.
Speaker 3: If somebody's riding in the back.
Speaker 17: But it was so normal back then, like people literally
Speaker 17: there'll be like eight of us in the back of
Speaker 17: a pick up, not even thinking what you're doing.
Speaker 16: All the time a truck and let's go to Galveston.
Speaker 16: We jump in the back. You're riding next to us,
Speaker 16: a police.
Speaker 3: Officer way back and keep going.
Speaker 17: So I wonder when, I wonder when I'll google this
Speaker 17: after the show when it became a law that you
Speaker 17: couldn't do it, because that was just the norm. It
Speaker 17: was like, Oh, I got to pick up so I
Speaker 17: could take ten people. Okay, eight of y'all are fitting.
Speaker 3: In the back.
Speaker 6: I don't think I put on a seatbelt till I
Speaker 6: was twenty five.
Speaker 3: You know, I probably still.
Speaker 16: My son is reminded me that, yeah, yeah, And I
Speaker 16: know I know exactly how many times it will do
Speaker 16: it and how long it actually does it ten seconds
Speaker 16: and then once it stops, it'll it's ten seconds off.
Speaker 16: Then it'll come back. After about four times of that,
Speaker 16: it's it'll shut off. So I just have to get
Speaker 16: through the first four four deans.
Speaker 7: Now I feel naked without it, though, it's like I
Speaker 7: gotta put it out. I don't know, it's strange.
Speaker 17: Well, we talked about dre playing baseball. Mark, have you
Speaker 17: ever called baseball games?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 17: I have when I for me and I became a
Speaker 17: big baseball fan maybe eight years ago when I had
Speaker 17: my radio show and I read Joe Morgan's book Baseball
Speaker 17: for Dummies, And once I learned about the games within
Speaker 17: the game, I really appreciated it.
Speaker 6: So you tell me you're an Astros front runner.
Speaker 2: Big.
Speaker 17: So when I listened to the games on the radio,
Speaker 17: I love how they're just literally having a conversation, like, really,
Speaker 17: is it tougher?
Speaker 3: Is it easier calling baseball versus football?
Speaker 6: I think it's a lot harder in many ways. I
Speaker 6: love calling a lot.
Speaker 3: Of field time, a lot of film between pitches, between
Speaker 3: that bats.
Speaker 6: I've never done Major League.
Speaker 7: Okay, I did the Hurricanes. We won the National Championship
Speaker 7: in O one. I was able to call those games.
Speaker 7: And college is different because it feels like every count
Speaker 7: goes full, you know, and the plink of the aluminum bat.
Speaker 7: It's not as romantic a radio sport as Major League Baseball.
Speaker 7: The wooden bat, the sound of the wooden bat versus
Speaker 7: plink of the aluminum bat just changes the dynamics of
Speaker 7: that being a radio sport. Now, you're right, it is
Speaker 7: a big conversation and a lot of nothing happens, but
Speaker 7: then all of a sudden, all hell breaks loose. Baseball's
Speaker 7: where all of a sudden, the ball's over here, and
Speaker 7: it's the one sport where as the announcer you have
Speaker 7: to take your eye off the ball. Every other sport
Speaker 7: that I call, you cannot take.
Speaker 1: Your eye off the ball. But baseball you have to
Speaker 1: look who's rounding third?
Speaker 7: Here comes the throw? Are they gonna you know, you
Speaker 7: have to look at what's happening with the dynamics. And
Speaker 7: it's it's weird for me because I didn't grow up
Speaker 7: playing it or watching it. So a long story there,
Speaker 7: so it's not for a lot of guys. It's part
Speaker 7: of their DNA. It's really the Shakespeare of radio sports.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is a.
Speaker 6: Great radio sports storyte Yeah, but I love Andy.
Speaker 7: There's nothing like being on the air with this guy
Speaker 7: on a Sunday afternoon, and it's just it feels like.
Speaker 16: War, you know.
Speaker 7: There it is, it's the battle and everything is fever pitch,
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, lives hang in the balance.
Speaker 1: It's huge.
Speaker 7: I can't shake that feeling it's too big to ignore,
Speaker 7: you know, and even though we only get to do
Speaker 7: twenty of them a year, plus playoffs preferably, it just
Speaker 7: feels like there's no way I would drop that. There's
Speaker 7: no way I would let the event of the NFL
Speaker 7: Weekly game go away.
Speaker 6: It's just too big, it's too good.
Speaker 17: I think I've told you this before, Mark, but I
Speaker 17: haven't told Andre. And we all know teenagers are in
Speaker 17: their own world. But one day we're driving back, so
Speaker 17: we're listening to y'all during the Texan game, and my
Speaker 17: teenage son said, man, just out of the blue, Man,
Speaker 17: they do a good job. I feel like I'm seeing
Speaker 17: the game.
Speaker 3: Oh wow.
Speaker 17: And I said, oh wow, like you actually said something profound. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 17: Appreciate that, no doubt, because you know it. In radio,
Speaker 17: all you're trying to do is paint the picture. Yeah,
Speaker 17: And it's the why it happened. From my aspect, He's
Speaker 17: the setup guy, and I'm there to tell why certain
Speaker 17: things happen and when they happen. And it's been a
Speaker 17: great twenty three year crush between us and I look
Speaker 17: forward to another. You canna be around twenty three more years.
Speaker 7: Hell, yeah, wheel, I'm going I'm going out on a gurney.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm gonna need one of those little things with
Speaker 16: wheels and to give me to give me to the elevator.
Speaker 7: I like it it to like, I'll tell you what's
Speaker 7: going on, and then Trey's just gonna fill in all
Speaker 7: the Like if it's a painting, I'm just got I
Speaker 7: got the pencil, sketch and he's gonna paint brush all
Speaker 7: the colors in there and make it pretty and tell you,
Speaker 7: you know, show you exactly how it is.
Speaker 6: And uh, and that's our goal, you know.
Speaker 7: But we've always I think we had chemistry from the
Speaker 7: very beginning, and it's only you know, it's years that
Speaker 7: we're like an old married couple.
Speaker 1: Now it's like I know, okay, you go ahead, I'll
Speaker 1: go ahead. It's just it's a great way.
Speaker 3: Every blue moon, I'll step on it.
Speaker 16: But I knew right away that to kind of stay
Speaker 16: in my lane, you know, fig figure out his voice
Speaker 16: inflections and when he's wrapping up. And that's the thing
Speaker 16: about a relationship like like this and working with a
Speaker 16: guy for a long time, you got to kind of
Speaker 16: figure out what he does, what he likes to do
Speaker 16: when he's gonna rap his thoughts before you get dive
Speaker 16: right in and a lot of guys get excited and
Speaker 16: caught up in the game, and all of a sudden
Speaker 16: you hear him stepping on each other all the time.
Speaker 16: But we've never had really had that problem. I've done
Speaker 16: it in excite out of excitement a couple of times.
Speaker 7: But I do like it when he adds something though,
Speaker 7: like that, like put them back of the trunk last
Speaker 7: right around this, Remember, I mean, it's good, It's good
Speaker 7: here Dred the very first touchdown in Texans history, David Carter,
Speaker 7: Billy Miller.
Speaker 6: You hear Dre goo like he just he does.
Speaker 7: He makes a sound, and there's something beautiful about that,
Speaker 7: like the emotion of it. And this week Mixing runs
Speaker 7: for the first down and Dre's like ball gape and
Speaker 7: it's just perfect, you know, that little that little accent.
Speaker 7: You know, it's just I look at the aesthetics of
Speaker 7: this whole thing. Anyway, All right, there it is some
Speaker 7: of our conversation with Indy Kalu and Andre where this
Speaker 7: week now David Fletcher, general manager of the Kinders Texas Bowl,
Speaker 7: coming up, talking about the new sponsor and everything else
Speaker 7: bowl wise, because it's happening on New Year's Eve. You
Speaker 7: don't want to miss that. It's going to be a
Speaker 7: daytime game on New Year's Eve. They'll give you all
Speaker 7: the details. It's coming up next on Texans All Access.
Speaker 7: The final segment of the show is about football, but
Speaker 7: it's college football, not the Texans who are on a pie,
Speaker 7: of course, but something very Texans related. Because the Texas
Speaker 7: Bowl has been such a great thing over the years,
Speaker 7: one of the best bowls out there that I guess
Speaker 7: we used to say the highest attended non BCS bowl.
Speaker 7: There are all these other statistics relaying how successful this
Speaker 7: Bowl has been, and this Bowl has constantly been recognized
Speaker 7: as having the best Bowl Week event the Rodeo Bowl. Anyway,
Speaker 7: why am I talking about it? David Fletcher, general manager
Speaker 7: of the Bowl for a long time now, visited with
Speaker 7: John Harris this week and they talked about the new sponsor.
Speaker 7: It's the Kinders Texas Bowl right now. What's Kinders about?
Speaker 1: What is the bull likely to have this year?
Speaker 7: Well, you're gonna find out on Sunday afternoon. David Fletcher
Speaker 7: will tell you all about that.
Speaker 18: We have spent a lot of time this year with
Speaker 18: our partners at ESPN in trying to find since since
Speaker 18: Tax Act moved on. And so you can officially introduce
Speaker 18: as the executive director of the Kinders Texas Bowl. Very
Speaker 18: excited to welcome Kinders, one of the leading sauce and
Speaker 18: seasoning companies in the United States, as our new title sponsor,
Speaker 18: officially announced today. And boy, Johnny, I cannot think of
Speaker 18: a better complimentary partner.
Speaker 3: Than partner. But just like the.
Speaker 18: Idea of tailgating and food and the passion that runs
Speaker 18: deep for football and food in this city, and to
Speaker 18: have a premium brand like Kinders that can enhance that
Speaker 18: experience out here come December thirty first and beyond, this's
Speaker 18: gonna be a lot of fun fletch.
Speaker 2: So you and I haven't had a chance to talk
Speaker 2: because we've been kind of, you know, missiles in the night.
Speaker 1: We're all over the place. And it was on Tuesday
Speaker 1: when Nikossari was doing his press conference.
Speaker 2: I looked over on the far side and I could
Speaker 2: see these big black canisters.
Speaker 1: They look like the buckets you get from like home
Speaker 1: Depot that you do work with.
Speaker 2: And I look over there and I'm like, I can't
Speaker 2: I can't tell I didn't want to go walking over there,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what are these buckets? Well, then we
Speaker 2: had Nick coming studio for his interview, went back out
Speaker 2: of the buckets were gone.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, dang, I wonder what that was.
Speaker 2: And then I saw this little card sitting on one
Speaker 2: of the tables and it just sat on behalf of
Speaker 2: the Texas Bowl. Lon Star Sports Entertainment and ESPN Events,
Speaker 2: we are thrilled to announce Kinders as the new title
Speaker 2: sponsor of the twenty twenty four Kinders Texas Bowl. And
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, that's what that was and it
Speaker 2: was black bands. So first of all, hey, can I
Speaker 2: get one of those black bands because I got a
Speaker 2: feeling that they're probably filled with seasonings and rubs and
Speaker 2: everything that Kinders has.
Speaker 1: Two, how did this come about?
Speaker 2: Because I'm always I'm always intrigued, you know, I am
Speaker 2: about coming of the Bull process, everything that goes with
Speaker 2: the bull, the bull swag, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm always intrigued with this tax had Tax
Speaker 2: Act had been the sponsor for a couple of years.
Speaker 2: We've had Academy for a couple of years. Now Kinders
Speaker 2: gets on board. How did this all kind of come
Speaker 2: to be if you will.
Speaker 18: Yeah, well let me answer your first question absolutely, Yes,
Speaker 18: buckets for you and buckets for many.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 18: Look, the this is a really unique and a really
Speaker 18: fun opportunity to be a part of. From from our chair,
Speaker 18: you know, we worked with our partners at ESPN to
Speaker 18: really try and find a fit around our Texas Bowl
Speaker 18: entitlement that just enhanced the experience for everybody involved. And
Speaker 18: as I mentioned in the outset, the passion that Kinders
Speaker 18: has for food seventy five years of making the best
Speaker 18: and spices out there is something that is very evident
Speaker 18: and will be very complementary to the experience that you
Speaker 18: see around college football. For Kinders, this is a really
Speaker 18: unique opportunity for them. A major sauce and seasoning brand,
Speaker 18: really a challenger brand that's built an incredible base of
Speaker 18: loyal and passionate followers, the number two brand in the
Speaker 18: country in sauces and seasoning. So they're looking to continue
Speaker 18: to grow and this is their first major national sponsorship.
Speaker 18: They're targeting college football, and with good reason. We know
Speaker 18: how important tailgating is to that culture. We know how
Speaker 18: important is to whether you're homegating or tailgating. You want
Speaker 18: your game day to be at the top, and having
Speaker 18: a partner like Kinders that can help enhance that experience
Speaker 18: is something that's gonna be really cool. College football is
Speaker 18: where they're going, and you saw it as part of
Speaker 18: the announcement. They are also the official sauce and seasoning
Speaker 18: of the College Football Playoff. They're working on a significant
Speaker 18: and have a significant media profile multimedia rights deal with
Speaker 18: ESPN as.
Speaker 3: Part of this relationship.
Speaker 18: So as this was all coming together, you got a
Speaker 18: real opportunity to to work with a brand that's creative,
Speaker 18: that's innovative, that's trying to you know, build their niche,
Speaker 18: trying to grow them their their brand, and using the
Speaker 18: platforms of college football some big ones at that to
Speaker 18: do it.
Speaker 3: We're really excited.
Speaker 18: This is a multi year relationship and it's one that
Speaker 18: you know, we're just beginning, but it's one that we
Speaker 18: already feel will will really, as I said, create a
Speaker 18: complementary experience, an enhanced experience for fans at our game
Speaker 18: and at college football tailgates all throughout the next few seasons.
Speaker 1: I like that we're homegating too. Was good and I've
Speaker 1: not heard that before. That's pretty good.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 2: Stuff over here, Executive director of the Kinders Texas Pol
Speaker 2: David Fletcher here with me, fletch. The title sponsor is
Speaker 2: obviously it was a big deal. I mean and I
Speaker 2: talked and probably a couple weeks ago and to say,
Speaker 2: hey man, let's get out talk some college football and
Speaker 2: goes and you told me, well, we got the announcement
Speaker 2: coming up, I think for a title sponsor. So let's
Speaker 2: wait a couple of weeks. You were dead on it
Speaker 2: happens this week. Congratulations for that. But you also announced
Speaker 2: that there's more stuff that's happening with the Bowl game
Speaker 2: in and around music concerts. Because one of the things
Speaker 2: that I love about what you've done with the Bowl
Speaker 2: is you've made it more than just the sixty minute
Speaker 2: football game. And you know how I am a football
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, I love about six minut football
Speaker 2: all the other stuff. Kind of like all right, but
Speaker 2: you've put so much into the events that go into
Speaker 2: the Kinders Texas Bowl. What do you have for the
Speaker 2: fans that you can announce and give to us right
Speaker 2: here on top of giving us the Kinders texta Bowl announcement?
Speaker 6: Well, ball week is always fun for the teams.
Speaker 18: It's fun for the administrators, a true celebration of a
Speaker 18: college football that is bowl season, and each of the
Speaker 18: each of the different bowls try and find their unique
Speaker 18: angles summer private, summer public. You know, we'll certainly put
Speaker 18: our Bowl Week up against anybody's in the country and
Speaker 18: as one of the best, and rightfully so. College football
Speaker 18: is so important to this community. Houston one of the
Speaker 18: premier destinations. But it's not just about football. It's about
Speaker 18: showcasing Houston, showcasing what it's like to be a Houstonian.
Speaker 18: And we've got an incredible melding of cultures and different
Speaker 18: elements that make Houston so unique, the most diverse community America,
Speaker 18: and we try and highlight those. We reach back to
Speaker 18: the Western heritage with our Rodeo Bowl, which is a
Speaker 18: private event, but it's one of the premier events in
Speaker 18: the country. It's been named multiple times the best Bowl
Speaker 18: Week event in the country, and that's very much in
Speaker 18: part to our partnership with the Houston Livestock Show in Rodeo,
Speaker 18: which knows a thing or two about putting on a rodeo,
Speaker 18: and that event has really become a signature and a
Speaker 18: staple each and every week, but as you look to
Speaker 18: some of the other events that we do, community is
Speaker 18: a big part of what we're doing.
Speaker 3: Community impact.
Speaker 18: We work with the Pelching Children Center throughout the year
Speaker 18: and supporting their efforts as the largest children's charity here
Speaker 18: I'm sorry, the oldest children's charity here in Houston and
Speaker 18: the largest provider of foster and adoptive services in the
Speaker 18: state of Texas. And there are many, many Bull Week
Speaker 18: interactions and events that the players, the coaches get to
Speaker 18: have with the kids and the families of that organization.
Speaker 18: But when it comes to having fun, Look, this game's
Speaker 18: on New Year's Eve. It's a day game, which we're
Speaker 18: really excited about. The night before we've got we announced
Speaker 18: yesterday Tyler Farr is headlining our car Bock kickoff concert
Speaker 18: presented by Kroger. Free concert for all fans that want
Speaker 18: to come out and just experience Bowl Week and come
Speaker 18: out and do it with some great Texas music, some
Speaker 18: great food over at the Rustic Downtown. You can get
Speaker 18: your tickets free tickets for that event at Kinderstexas Bowl
Speaker 18: dot com. And there is this little thing about Game Day, right,
Speaker 18: we have an event. We have a big weekend ahead
Speaker 18: with selections Sunday coming up, and game day out here
Speaker 18: is going to be spectacular. The Who's the Brothers are
Speaker 18: going to headline uh Carbock Love Street Text Fest on
Speaker 18: on Tuesday morning. Game days at the kick is at
Speaker 18: two thirty Central times, so we have a real opportunity
Speaker 18: for this community and for people traveling in. You know,
Speaker 18: if you want to start your New Year's Eve and
Speaker 18: have a great night, no better place if you're a
Speaker 18: college football fan than to do it right here with
Speaker 18: a two thirty kick. If this is what you want
Speaker 18: to do for New Year's Day, and there are a
Speaker 18: lot of families, a lot of people that you know, hey,
Speaker 18: we'll let the well, we'll let We'll let the partygoers
Speaker 18: go out and have their fun.
Speaker 1: Come out here, have a great time, you get your
Speaker 1: your day started right.
Speaker 18: And all of those opportunities will be available starting on
Speaker 18: Sunday when we go on sale with tickets Kinderstexas Bowl
Speaker 18: dot com. And when we do that, Johnny, we will
Speaker 18: shortly thereafter announce who's going to be playing in the game.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's get to that a little bit.
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 1: I have what I want to see in the game.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you probably have what you'd like to see
Speaker 2: in the game, and I don't want you to say that,
Speaker 2: and I might say mine later on. I know I
Speaker 2: don't want you because coming from the executive director of
Speaker 2: the game, it's a little different if you're like, hey,
Speaker 2: I want this. But first of all, to clarify, as
Speaker 2: it pertains the choices, you pick the Big twelve school,
Speaker 2: that's right, and the SEC comes from that comes from
Speaker 2: the SEC ESPN side.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 2: Okay, So how much as you're watching this college football playoff?
Speaker 2: How much of that is impacting you? For example, if
Speaker 2: there are three SEC schools versus four, does that impact
Speaker 2: what could happen in the game? Or at that point
Speaker 2: is it not as important how many are getting in
Speaker 2: the college football playoff?
Speaker 1: Because it looks like the Big twelve probably getting one.
Speaker 2: So I would imagine you're probably gonna have a nice
Speaker 2: little choice for your game. How do you kind of
Speaker 2: look at this comor football playoff and how does that
Speaker 2: play a role in in the Kinders Texas Bowl.
Speaker 18: Well, we're learning, I mean this is the first, this
Speaker 18: is the first we're to go. We're building the plane
Speaker 18: as it flies. But in all honesty, you know, it
Speaker 18: starts with our conference partners. You mentioned a Big Twelve
Speaker 18: and SEC, two elite conferences geographically relevant. It's helped this
Speaker 18: game be a huge part of the college football calendar
Speaker 18: and the events calendar, not only here in Houston but
Speaker 18: around the country for over a decade now. We're very
Speaker 18: excited to have that relationship continuing this year and to
Speaker 18: have an opportunity to look at who from those two
Speaker 18: elite conferences is going to be able to play in
Speaker 18: our game come New Year's eve Day. When you look
Speaker 18: at the College Football Playoff, obviously the expansion this year
Speaker 18: is a new element that we're all looking at as
Speaker 18: it relates to bowlseason. I think as you look at
Speaker 18: the two conferences that we are aligned with, the Big
Speaker 18: Twelve in the SEC, certainly have an eye on how
Speaker 18: those conference championship games go this way weekend. But but
Speaker 18: ultimately both of those have tremendous programs that have that
Speaker 18: have played at a high level this year.
Speaker 3: So when we look at what might be available and what.
Speaker 18: Might be the case for our matchup come New Year's
Speaker 18: eve Day, we love the options that are sitting out there.
Speaker 18: I mean, there's just so much good football in both conferences.
Speaker 18: You know, obviously there is a lot of transition. There
Speaker 18: are a lot of elements that people talk about, nil transfer, portal,
Speaker 18: you know, coaching changes that all impact those elements.
Speaker 3: Look at it.
Speaker 18: The two conference partners we have both have many teams
Speaker 18: that performed at an elite level this year. Both have
Speaker 18: a number of opportunities for us that are geographically relevant.
Speaker 18: And when we look at the pool that we might
Speaker 18: have here, can't be anything but excited about what what
Speaker 18: could possibly come to us coming of the New Year's
Speaker 18: eve Day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there there are some there are some really nice options.
Speaker 2: As I started looking at it, each and every week
Speaker 2: I write for for l s C newsletter and it
Speaker 2: gets sent out, and at the very end the last
Speaker 2: probably two three weeks, I started I bring back in
Speaker 2: the options, like, okay, are these are the teams? And
Speaker 2: as I started putting on the teams of like, oh,
Speaker 2: that team could look really good. I mean even as
Speaker 2: crazy as an SEC team like Florida. But I know Florida,
Speaker 2: they're probably more set with you know, a Bowl over Florida.
Speaker 2: But Florida's got a quarterback from Willis like right here
Speaker 2: just outside the city of Houston.
Speaker 1: So it's like, man, there might be a draw with that.
Speaker 2: So it's even if it's not geographically you know, a
Speaker 2: Texas Tech or a TCU or an Arkansas or what
Speaker 2: Oklahoma or.
Speaker 1: Whatever it could be, which it could very well be,
Speaker 1: could be any of those.
Speaker 2: But even if it's like you know, like I said
Speaker 2: of Florida, Man, you get DJ Langway in here, a
Speaker 2: guy from just outside of Houston. So there's gonna be
Speaker 2: a connection in some way, shape or form, which I
Speaker 2: can't wait to see how it all gets put together.
Speaker 2: You mentioned a couple of times Fletch game gets moved
Speaker 2: to December thirty, first two thirty kickoff, and that obviously
Speaker 2: is a big day in college football. Again, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's a massive day in college football.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about a and I'm trying to remember,
Speaker 2: is this the first time that has been played during
Speaker 2: the day?
Speaker 1: And how do you feel about that? Just for the
Speaker 1: game itself, for that event itself being at two thirty,
Speaker 1: we're thrilled.
Speaker 18: I mean, it's an incredible real estate in the college
Speaker 18: football landscape. As I mentioned earlier, it's a holiday, great
Speaker 18: day for local college football fans and just people in
Speaker 18: general are looking to have a good time to come here, you.
Speaker 3: Know, call out the NRG Stadium.
Speaker 18: Tickets start as low as twenty five dollars, so it's
Speaker 18: an affordable option, but we also have all the premium
Speaker 18: elements too. That, unto itself, is a really important element
Speaker 18: of why we're so excited about this this opportunity. But
Speaker 18: you look at the college football landscape. Anybody who follows
Speaker 18: the sport knows as close as you can be to
Speaker 18: New Year's Day, the better it is in terms of
Speaker 18: the visibility, in terms of the TV audience, in terms
Speaker 18: of the impact you can make. And this year for us,
Speaker 18: what really I think ultimately we were most excited about
Speaker 18: is an opportunity to be the lead in for the
Speaker 18: first ever quarterfinal. The Fiesta Bowl will be New Year's
Speaker 18: Eve night, and that's a first ever, which is always
Speaker 18: exciting to be part of. We get to be that
Speaker 18: lead in on ESPN with two elite conference partners in
Speaker 18: a great matchup. I think it's going to translate into
Speaker 18: a really good day business wise, a really great day
Speaker 18: in terms of the visibility for our community. And we
Speaker 18: think from an experience perspective, we're certainly working as hard
Speaker 18: as we possibly can to emulate that here at game
Speaker 18: day and make sure that we live up to that expectation.
Speaker 18: But all in all, it's a fantastic development. I'm bullish
Speaker 18: on us being in this position in the near term
Speaker 18: going forward, but most importantly, I'm really bullish about the
Speaker 18: opportunity to bring this to Houston on that day with
Speaker 18: this platform and see what it can do for our community.
Speaker 2: Did the College Football Playoff Committee get it right putting
Speaker 2: Alabama in front of Miami? Nah, you don't have to
Speaker 2: answer that question. Don't answer that question. That's a loaded question.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't put you on the spot like that. I
Speaker 2: think Alabama's better at Miami, but that's just me. Mar
Speaker 2: Vander might be very, very disappointed in me for saying that.
Speaker 2: But I think Alabama would have beat Miami in a
Speaker 2: head to head on a neutral field, and then I
Speaker 2: would put them ahead of Miami as it were. Fletch,
Speaker 2: I cannot wait for selection Sunday. It's weird because we
Speaker 2: usually have a game. Yeah, we usually have a game,
Speaker 2: and so you, if I remember correctly, you pop in
Speaker 2: the pet postgame show, you announce it with the guys
Speaker 2: on postgame show.
Speaker 1: So how are we gonna announce this on Selection Sunday.
Speaker 18: Well, there's this little thing called the Internet and social
Speaker 18: media and ESPN i've heard has a pretty good reach,
Speaker 18: so you know it'll be okay. So we're gonna be okay.
Speaker 18: We are really excited about Selection Sunday. This this Sunday afternoon,
Speaker 18: tickets going on sale as I mentioned that day as well,
Speaker 18: Kinders Texas Bowl dot com or on Ticketmaster's.
Speaker 7: David Fletch, thank you're visiting with Johnny Harris on Texans
Speaker 7: All Access talking about the Kinders Texas Bowl.
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Speaker 1: So have a great weekend.
Speaker 7: Don't forget Area forty five is coming up next talking
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Speaker 7: this weekend. Another big football fiesta this weekend. Have a
Speaker 7: great night everyone, Go Texans.