1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: Why did you do it? 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish. 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: dot com, Apple podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you get your 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: podcasts for fish. 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 4: How do you ever think possibile do it? 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: It's the main event Challenge with John Annik and Kenny 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: Florian podcast. 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 5: Well well, well boys, sorry for the wolf tickets. This 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 5: is not John Anak and Kenny Florian, but this is 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 5: the Anak and Florian podcast. Here with an emergency edition 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 5: Friday night. Guys, it's been a hell of a forty 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 5: eight hours. Yesterday, big drama show at the press conference 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 5: gets called off, fights with lower behind the scenes. We've 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 5: yet to see video from a know, everybody's grinding for that. 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 5: We show up this morning at the early morning weigh ins. 21 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 5: You know, expect to be hunky dory. Everyone's gona come 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 5: in make wait wrong UFC two seventy nine. UFC two 23 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 5: seventy nine. Catchwaight is what they should call it. I 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 5: believe there were about eight bouts that ended up being 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 5: a catchwaight, but the final three got scrapped. Tom's at 26 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 5: Sam CHAMAIAV came in seven and a half pounds over 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 5: from Na Diez who waited an hour before no real 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 5: attempt to come in and adjust that weight. 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 4: So the UFC went down to the drawing board. They 30 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: re scrapped the whole card. 31 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 5: We ended up with a little bit of a moving 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 5: what's the word musical chairs here at the at last 33 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 5: three fights. So fellas, I just kind of want to 34 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 5: get your takes here after what has been a whirlwind 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 5: forty eight hours. 36 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: BP will start with you. 37 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 5: How do you what is your thoughts here? As a 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 5: fan sitting at home. 39 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: We got a better card, boys, I'll say it, we 40 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 4: got a better card. I like all the matchups they 41 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 4: switched together. The UFC comes through again. I know this 42 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 4: card wasn't have a lot of meat on the bones. 43 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 4: Everyone was coming from CHAMAIAV and the d As. But 44 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 4: give me an idea, as Tony ferguson all day, give 45 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 4: me Holland and Chimaiav, especially since they got in a 46 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 4: fight in the back of Reportedly we haven't seen the 47 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: video yet and obviously the leads vers d rod is 48 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 4: gonna be an absolute fucking banger. So the UFC done 49 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: well for us. I mean this is absolutely crazy. I mean, 50 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 4: this is this is what you you know. I can't 51 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 4: imagine what our our our hosts are, our compadre don 52 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: and is going through, Dana White, all the people that 53 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: are actually working about this. But as a fan, I 54 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 4: am jacked to the tids for this one. 55 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: Boys, Yeah, no, listen. 56 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 6: I think this is why the UFC and other promotions 57 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 6: have kind of moved to this type of format. 58 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: What do you do, well, if. 59 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 6: The shit hits the fan, you get someone else or 60 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 6: a couple other guys that could fill in and be 61 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 6: kind of pushed around. And you know, this new format is. 62 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: Is why this car has benefited. 63 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 6: You know, I think all things considered, you know, it 64 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 6: sucks that homs out and nads aren't gonna be able 65 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 6: to go at it. 66 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 3: I think for the UFC or whatever. 67 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 6: But I think they made the best out of it 68 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 6: and we got actually better matchups. Think matchups that make 69 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 6: more logical sense, right, So I think, you know, as 70 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 6: far as the matchmakers and the people involved, they're able 71 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 6: to pull off what what I thought was going to 72 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 6: be really difficult to pull off. So very impressed that 73 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 6: they were able to do it. I still think we 74 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 6: get some great fights, very interesting fights as well, and 75 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 6: can't wait to break it down with you guys. But 76 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 6: a lot of craziness that happened to guys. I mean, 77 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 6: like yesterday, you get the fight that happened, right, you 78 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 6: get the fight with Kevin Holland and Chimaia that happened 79 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 6: backstage that obviously is happening now, which is cool. We 80 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 6: get kind of a juicier fight there in some regards. 81 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 6: But to me, what I'm seeing from Chimaia of getting 82 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 6: into it with Costa on fight week, getting into it 83 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 6: with Kevin Holland not making weight, I'm seeing a lack 84 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 6: of discipline all the way around. I'm not saying that's 85 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 6: the case with his training and how he prepares for fights, 86 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 6: but at the same time, the emotional maturity that matters, 87 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 6: and in a fight of epic proportions, when you're going 88 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 6: against someone like a Nate Diaz, who can you know 89 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 6: flip the bird and get you off your game and 90 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 6: get you to brawl with him. 91 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. 92 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 6: I think I don't know did Chimaya dodge of bullet 93 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 6: or did Nate Diaz dodge of bullet? I'm still trying 94 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 6: to figure it all out. But I think it's something 95 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 6: to watch, uh in regards to Chimaya and how he 96 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 6: progresses in his career. But I don't know interesting stuff well. 97 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 5: Until your point, ken Flow. I think the safety of 98 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 5: setting up a card like this is something that the 99 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 5: UFC has been doing as of recent and argument no 100 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 5: argument discussion I was having online with one of the 101 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 5: serious XM co hosts was in the past, the UFC 102 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 5: would just scrap an event like this, main events off 103 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 5: like not with the trouble like whatever. But they can't 104 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 5: do that with this new UFC deal or the ESPN deal. 105 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 5: You can't be canceling dates, you know, if so facto 106 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 5: at this stage in the calendar, so the fights had 107 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 5: to go on, the card had to happen. 108 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 4: And I do agree. 109 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 5: I think we did end up with, you know, the 110 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 5: best case scenario, And I said, yesterday and remember the show, 111 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 5: you know, wouldn't it just be fantastic if the MMA 112 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 5: gods somehow gave us Tony versus Nate and what did 113 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 5: we all want? 114 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 4: And Vinta's tone you see the I guess he's going 115 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 4: for blonde hair. It's more gold, but he's vintage Tony's 116 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: Olka coobab. He's ready came out of the baseball I 117 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 4: don't know what the baseball bit is, but he's he's 118 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 4: he's rocket with baseball. He's got an arm sleeve. He's 119 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 4: got an arm sleeve like you know, like is it 120 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 4: a copper fit? Does he have Alba pro? I don't know. 121 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 4: Is he you know, sponsored by him? But I love 122 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 4: Tony Ferguson. I mean I listened. They're they're getting paid 123 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 4: tail end of their careers, respectively for both of them. 124 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 4: I love seeing them getting the bag's main event five 125 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 4: rounds guys. Neither guys had cardio issues, regardless of short 126 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: notice or whatever. And uh, it's only Kenny mentioned Offline's 127 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 4: the only shame is we didn't get earlier at fifty 128 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 4: five in their primes, because that would have been fucking bananas. 129 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 5: Exciting stuff, boys, exciting stuff, and that's at the top 130 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 5: of the card. But we're gonna start at the first 131 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,119 Speaker 5: fight that was announced, the le Jing Liang versus Daniel 132 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 5: Rodriguez fight. The leach Lejing Leon enters the cage fresh 133 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 5: off of a July sixteenth win over the King of 134 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 5: Kung Fu over here in Long Island. The Chinese born 135 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 5: fighter training at a Beijing enters this bout. A spry 136 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 5: thirty four years of age, winner of three of his 137 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 5: last five nineteen and seven career record bost eleven UFC 138 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 5: wins since twenty fourteen, he'll look to get that figure 139 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 5: to twelve as he enters the cage against Daniel Rodriguez BP. 140 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 5: I'm gonna start with you. The Leech is plus one 141 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 5: thirty five against this new opponent, with De Rod at 142 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 5: a minus one fifty five clip. It's been moving since 143 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 5: it got announced about two hours ago, but with this line, 144 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 5: who you got man? 145 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: I love this fight. I love all the fights. Like 146 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: I mentioned earlier, the leech is a banger. The Leech 147 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: will get in there and throw with anybody. He's got 148 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 4: a great chin defense left to be desired because he 149 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 4: relies on his gym, but he does have power. 150 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 3: Me. 151 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 4: This guy knocked out Ponsnibo. He has one touch power. 152 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 4: But Daniol Rodriguez a smooth man. I mentioned it when 153 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 4: we broke it down earlier. He's technically good. Uh he 154 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 4: moved four, puts a pace on you, and he can crack, 155 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 4: and he has survived some stuff in the octagon. He 156 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 4: dropped that decision loss to Dolby, which really wasn't decision loss. 157 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 4: But he's been clipped in there, he's been rocked in there, 158 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 4: he's been put down, he's got up and he's won fights. 159 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 4: And uh that that's something you want to see in 160 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 4: a guy who's whos starting his career off six and 161 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: one in the UFC. I like Rodriguez. I like him 162 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 4: at this number. I want to I wish I could 163 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 4: live that right now. I'm gonna wait till tomorrow, but 164 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 4: I wanted to catch him before he touches two hundred 165 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: one is a juicy price for me. I like him. 166 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 4: I think he's a good parlay price as well. One 167 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 4: fifty five is a really sweet squad for parlays because 168 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 4: then you can not inflate your price all that much. 169 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 4: But uh, I think he pieces up the leads for 170 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 4: like three rounds. I don't see I finish happening because 171 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: They're both both solid dudes. But uh yeah, the Routes 172 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: I think is a special guy right here and especially 173 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 4: this matchup well. 174 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 5: And I would expect that over to be juiced a 175 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 5: little bit given these guys track records, both of them 176 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 5: very durable, both very good fighters. 177 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: Ken Flow. 178 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 5: D Rod from the Streets of La La really you know, 179 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 5: making its stand on this card this weekend from the 180 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 5: Streets thirty five of age sixteen in two record winner 181 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 5: his last three fights, including victories over Mike Perry and 182 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 5: Kevin Lee. His six UFC wins have been impressive, holds 183 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 5: a Contender series win from twenty nineteen. He looked add 184 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 5: a fourth straight to the belt here against Leging Leang 185 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 5: and this newly formed belt. Ken Flower, you're the legend here. 186 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 5: How do you see this fight going? 187 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: Man? This is an interesting fight. 188 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 6: I think that the Leech is gonna be a little 189 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 6: bit more technical. 190 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: I think he's a little bit more mobile. Overall, he's 191 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: going to be faster. 192 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 6: But d Rod with that pressure, with that durability, and 193 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 6: with that chin, and his ability to just believe in 194 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 6: himself and keep coming back, like like BP was saying, 195 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 6: and the fact that again we can't ignore this. Props 196 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 6: to the Leach by the way for taking this fight. 197 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 6: Yeah against a dude who's. 198 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 3: Weighing in at you know, one's seventy nine, right. 199 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, he righted in a little under one eighty. Yeah. 200 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 201 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 6: So on on fight night, you know, you got to 202 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 6: imagine he's gonna have maybe that he's probably stay with 203 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 6: that nine to ten pound weight advantage. That matters. It 204 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 6: matters when you're hitting something that's bigger than you, and 205 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 6: it matters when you're getting hit by that larger thing 206 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 6: as well. D Rod can crack already. He doesn't need 207 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 6: any help as far as the weight goes. But he's 208 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 6: gonna get it, and that to me is why I 209 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 6: need to go with do you Rod? 210 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: I think he gets it done. I'm not sure if 211 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 3: he's gonna get the finish. 212 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 6: Here, but I think it's gonna be an absolute banger 213 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 6: on both sides. I wouldn't be surprised to see Leech 214 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 6: kind of early on landing shots, you know, getting his 215 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 6: speed going. Uh, but then d Rod just kind of 216 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 6: creeping in, getting in his face and kind of stealing 217 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 6: the fight later on later on as it goes and 218 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 6: it goes into second or third round. 219 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, great, mind's thinking alike. Here, guys, you might want 220 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 5: to take that over to the DraftKings sports book. You 221 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 5: can head on over to John's profile, use that link 222 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 5: in the bio download. 223 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 3: The app helps the show out greatly, Fellas. 224 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 5: This co main event is a fight that we didn't 225 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 5: know we wanted until it happened backstage, and now all 226 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 5: of a sudden we get it. So the MMA god 227 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 5: is giving us a bit of a gift. Here Bores Tamaya. 228 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 5: Tamaya comes in after getting bumped down. He Misswait, this 229 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 5: morning didn't really seem all that upset about it, you know, 230 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 5: kind of had this nonchalant attitude. BP and I were 231 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 5: texting people on the ground where there was just a 232 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 5: lot of disrespect. And so hopefully, as ken Flow said, 233 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 5: that's not something that bleeded into his training or bleeds 234 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 5: into this fight coming up this weekend. Hams Out's eleven 235 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 5: and zero overall. Kevin Holland is twenty three and seven overall. 236 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 5: At one point, I believe Kevin Holland had the record 237 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 5: for the most fights in a calendar year, which was 238 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 5: then taken over by Hams A chamayav so a little 239 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 5: bit of interesting flair there, which I could be incorrect about. 240 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 5: I didn't do my whole research, my boys. 241 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: But there's an updated line, right. 242 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 5: The updated line here is about half of what it 243 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 5: was with the DS fight. So minus five eighty he 244 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 5: was a believe up to a minus twelve hundred against Diaz. 245 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 5: Kevin Holland plus four to forty is a much closer 246 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 5: fight against d Rod. A lot of line movement here, Kenny. 247 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 5: I'm gonna start with you in the coomain so that 248 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 5: you can go last in the main event challenge Hamsa 249 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 5: Chamaia of minus via avity Kevin Holland plus four forty. 250 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: How do you see this fight going? Yeah, this is 251 00:10:58,880 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: interesting to me. 252 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 6: You know, I do think that Kevin Holland is an 253 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 6: interesting challenge in that you know, here you have another guy, tall, lanky, 254 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 6: you know, he's he's okay on the ground. You know, 255 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 6: he's gonna be feisty, he's gonna be uh the guy 256 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 6: who's who's talking ship to Hamsat trying to get him 257 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 6: off of his game. 258 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: So I'm curious to see how Hamzat reacts to that. 259 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 6: I think this is a great fight for Hamza to 260 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 6: build up into those bigger fights because there's Kevin Holland 261 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 6: and then there's the Kevin Holland shit talk that you 262 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 6: got to deal with. 263 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 3: So you got like two opponents. 264 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 6: Uh and seeing that Jimaia might be somewhat I don't know, 265 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 6: maybe easy to to tick off a little bit. I'm 266 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 6: just curious to see how you respond throughout this whole process. 267 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 6: So uh and again with the backdrop of what happened 268 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 6: last night, we have, you know, we get a much 269 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 6: spicier fight here. So here's the Here's the thing, though, 270 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 6: I think Hamzat is a nightmare matchup for some like 271 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 6: Kevin Holland. 272 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: Why because he can wrestle number one. 273 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 6: I don't think Holland's jiu jitsu is good enough or 274 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 6: on the level of a Nate Daz where Homsat might 275 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 6: be tentative and or hesitanting in taking him down. I 276 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 6: don't think he's gonna be scared of Kevin Holland. I 277 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 6: just don't think Holland is good enough off of his 278 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 6: back to be a submission threat against someone like Homsat Chimaya. 279 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 6: So the wrestling is a factor. The other thing that's 280 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 6: a factor is Homzat's ability to slip and rip and 281 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 6: move forward and pressure guys and bring insane power. That 282 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 6: to me is going to be troublesome for Kevin Holland 283 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 6: because his only in my opinion, the way I see 284 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 6: it is for Kevin Holland to kind of deal with 285 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 6: that pressure is to clinch with him, and that's only 286 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 6: going to allow Homzat to do what he does best 287 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 6: with just throw people on their heads. 288 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: So it's a tough one for Kevin Holland. 289 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 6: Holland's best bet is to catch him with some kind 290 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 6: of a counter strike coming forward. I just don't see 291 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 6: that happening enough. We saw Chimayav's chin on full display 292 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 6: at his last fight against Gilbert Birds. I mean Gilbert 293 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 6: Burns threw that right hand was it a right hand 294 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 6: or a left hand? That would have chopped most people's 295 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 6: heads off. JAMAIAV was able to eat it and continue 296 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 6: moving forward. He was definitely hurt, but it wasn't enough 297 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 6: to knock him out. That to me shows that he's 298 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 6: got toughness, he's got durability, he's got. 299 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 3: A chin to boot. I like Jamaia here. 300 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 6: I think he gets a finish somewhere around the second 301 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 6: or third round. 302 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 3: VP over to you. 303 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I see this fight. His screams finished on either side. 304 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 4: I think we can't count out Kevin Holland here. Yes, 305 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: he is wrestling a suspect. He's working with Johnny Hendrix. 306 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: He's trying to get that down. He's look pretty good 307 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 4: at one seven. This is a Catchwait, obviously they're both. 308 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 4: But the one thing that is holding me back from 309 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 4: going all in on TAMAIAV. I think Shamaiah when he 310 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 4: gets coming to the grounds, he's gonna get in on 311 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: the ground. I think when he takes your back and 312 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 4: it takes your back, I think it's a problem. Kevin 313 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 4: Holland's been submitted by Brendon Allen by rear naked choke. 314 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: That's kind of han Zat's move. He's strong in that position. 315 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 4: Kevin Holland doesn't really try to get up up. He 316 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 4: plays the game on the ground. That's gonna be not 317 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 4: so great when he gets against Home's out. But Kevin 318 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 4: Holland to take this fight set I wanted that five 319 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 4: round I want five rounds. Kevin Holland taking a fight 320 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 4: on relatively short notice against the rod got bumped to this. 321 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 4: They got some beef Tamaya misweight, which throws a lot 322 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 4: of question marks in why do you miss Wait, He's 323 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 4: known about this fight forever. We all dissect the little 324 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 4: video of the costa where there's a little bit of 325 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 4: a whip. There might be a leg issue. So if 326 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 4: Jamaiah gets pushed to the fourth fifth round, which we've 327 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 4: never seen, that's gonna be interesting. I mean, Kevin Holland 328 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 4: isn't like the cardio machine that Nate Diez or Tony 329 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: Ferguson is, but he is a guy that and he 330 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 4: mentioned that's gonna get in your head. He's gonna smack you, 331 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 4: he's gonna talk to you. And Tamayav has. 332 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: A short fuse. 333 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: So I'm screaming prop I'm screaming Shamaiah by submission or 334 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 4: Kevin Holland with a stun or knockout. I think you can. 335 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: You can hedge your bets and play both ways. But 336 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 4: for the sake of the show and the sake of 337 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 4: the game, I'm picking Chamaiev just because I think he's 338 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 4: a little more well rounded. And then Kevin Holland said 339 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: at the press conference, or excuse me the way, and 340 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 4: Joe Rogan's like, how do you think this matchup. Is 341 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 4: this a better matchup for you? And Kevin Holland said, 342 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 4: fuck no, but let's go. Let's have fun. I love 343 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 4: the honesty because he knows his dude's a beast. I 344 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: was going against a striker. Now I'm going against the 345 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 4: guy who's gonna jump on my legs. But you gotta 346 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 4: love the fight. But I literally I look at Kevin 347 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 4: Holland plus four to forty by knockout, which I haven't 348 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 4: released yet, is gonna be even juicier that that might 349 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: take some of my money as well. But uh, interesting 350 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 4: fight here boys co main event five rounds. 351 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: Let's go and b pch. 352 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 6: You know again, we're not exactly sure why she might 353 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 6: have make weight, but that could be indicative of of 354 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 6: some kind of an injury, right, I mean yeah, so 355 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 6: that kind of helps things a little bit more. 356 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 4: I think when Rogan asked him, I think here, I 357 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 4: have to rewatch. I could be incorrect. I think he 358 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 4: briefly said, real quickly when he was getting shower booze 359 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 4: that they made him quick cutting. They told him to stop. 360 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 4: I think he said that in his English, I have 361 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 4: to go back and rewatch. So maybe the commission stepped 362 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 4: and it was like, you're not You're nowhere near it. 363 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 4: Maybe he started really high. I don't know. Apparently he 364 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 4: let the DS camp know they were high. There's a 365 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: lot of things that misinformation. I don't want to spread 366 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: false rumors, but yeah, I mean listen that he can 367 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 4: be coming in hampered here. He just and his ego 368 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 4: is very high right now, so he can go I 369 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 4: can go in without a leg and win. You know, 370 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 4: that's what he's feeling right now. And you goin to 371 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 4: like Kevin Holland, who's gonna sniper from the outside. That 372 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: could be dangerous. This is interesting. This is an interesting 373 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 4: fight here. I know Jamaia is gonna climb probably close 374 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 4: to eight hundred, but I'm gonna keep an eye on 375 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: that line for sure. 376 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 5: And with the way cutting thing, Dana did say on 377 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 5: the Sports Center interview that they had sent somebody up 378 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 5: and the doctor essentially was recommended that he stopped cutting. 379 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 4: Okay, So that's what he did say. Okay, good? 380 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, because a lot of times, you know, the 381 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 6: UFC is great, and I mean a lot of promotions 382 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 6: are good about it. 383 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: When you come into fight week, they check your weight 384 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: right so. 385 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 6: That they know what the deal is throughout the week, 386 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 6: they know how big of a cut or how little 387 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 6: of a cut you're going to have to start that 388 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 6: week or two weeks before that, so you know, at 389 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 6: least at least we know he's going to be healthy, right, yeah, 390 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 6: and that you know, other bad health concerns are going 391 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 6: to be avoided here. 392 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 393 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 5: Well, and word on the internet too is that they 394 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 5: the UFC walked into the Wavens this morning knowing that 395 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 5: this was a possibility, so it wasn't a complete blind 396 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 5: side when you know the rumors, the murmurs were going 397 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 5: around this morning, so you know, feasible to believe that 398 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 5: sometime last night, you know, in the middle of the 399 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 5: night that they started formulating this plan. So a lot 400 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 5: of interesting stuff there, and especially the point that you 401 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 5: guys touched on, you know, the weight miss. It might 402 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 5: be injury related, it might be disciplined related. We as 403 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 5: we see he hasn't been very disciplined this week, so 404 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 5: you know, there's a lot of a lot of different 405 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 5: factors coming into that fight. 406 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 4: Did you see him sweet out that picture of someone 407 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 4: photoshopped him and Darren really fat and he goes it's 408 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 4: his fault, like cause till looks all fat there. Uh 409 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 4: that's I mean, that's funny. He's like trying to lean 410 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 4: into it. But then he goes on the after the 411 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 4: weig ends and just completely like doesn't lean into it, 412 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 4: just starts yelling at the crowd. It's a weird dynamic. 413 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 4: And like Kenn, he touched on it and hit the 414 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 4: nail on the head. He's an emotional, short fused kind 415 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 4: of guy, and that, you know, that might not be 416 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 4: so good. We got to also remember he's a young fighter. 417 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 4: Six this is his six fight, eleventh fight overall. I mean, 418 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 4: that's still pretty young in his career. So obviously emotions 419 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 4: and lack of focus can really play a factor in 420 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 4: some of these fights, especially high level ones. 421 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 5: And hey, maybe maybe a calculated heel turn. You know, 422 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 5: he was the darling coming into this, you know, giving 423 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 5: him the giving him the you know, we can say 424 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 5: it now, the cake matchup to go in there and 425 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 5: look good so that the promotion can put you over 426 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 5: and you pissed away all this good will. So when 427 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 5: they're sitting there in the matchmaker meeting on Tuesday, like 428 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 5: his name has a little red dot next to it. 429 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 4: Now it's I gotta imagine the UFC so pissed at 430 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 4: him for this. I mean, I know he might not 431 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 4: be able to control or whatever, but it just seemed 432 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 4: like the way he handled it, and just from an 433 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 4: outsider point of view, it looks like he kind of 434 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 4: you know, usually when people miss waked, they're like, sorry, sorry, 435 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 4: you know, I fucked up, or I'm hurt or whatever. 436 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 4: You need the money or whatever, and he just like 437 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 4: he was like, Oh, that's not that bad. That's literally 438 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 4: what he said. He's almost eight pounds, ever, that's not 439 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 4: that bad. So yeah, it's interesting. 440 00:18:59,480 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: Man. 441 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 4: I'm glad staying on the card because a lot of 442 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 4: fans were like, get him off the card, don't give 443 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 4: him any money. 444 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 3: But I'm glad. 445 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I want to see the guy fight. 446 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 4: I'm out against him, and he's still a fantastic fighter, 447 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 4: and he's got to fight. He's got to fight with 448 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,959 Speaker 4: the guy that he fought backstage for free. So now 449 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 4: we can see it, you know, tomorrow night, which is great. 450 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 5: Well, guys, the fight that I'm most excited for, the 451 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 5: fight that I wanted to happen. I predict these things. 452 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 5: This is the fight that I dreamed into existence. 453 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 3: That's enough. 454 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 5: Connor McGregor quotes for this intro Tony Ferguson versus Na DS. 455 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 5: Tony Ferguson a minus one twenty clip versus Naths plus 456 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 5: one hundred. This line has had some significant movements since 457 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 5: I sent you guys to screenshot an hour and a 458 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 5: half ago. Ferguson twenty five and seven overall, DZ twenty 459 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 5: and thirteen. Overall, Ferguson has only had twelve non UFC fights. 460 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 5: Natie has only had seven non UFC fights. Ferguson began 461 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 5: his career in two thousand and eight. DS began his 462 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 5: career in two thousand and four. Two absolute legends of 463 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 5: the game, Kenny. I'm sure you can go back in 464 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 5: the asphalt in the archives of your mind and picture 465 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 5: yourself back in two thousand four, in two thousand and eight, 466 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 5: a young, spry, young buck Kenny Florian, never missing weight, 467 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 5: finishing fights, finished fights, rolling through with that model hair. 468 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 5: Neither fighters won since twenty nineteen. Pettisford, Diz and Seroni 469 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 5: for Ferguson, Fellas, nobody's coming on here to listen to 470 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 5: me and show this fight. BP. We're gonna start with you, 471 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 5: and we're gonna look the legend. Go last, Tony Fergus 472 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 5: eight plus one hundred. 473 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 4: Where you leaning, man, I tell you. 474 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: What this is. 475 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 4: This is one of the tougher fights I've had a pick. 476 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 4: I wish I would have a little more time, but 477 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 4: that ain't That ain't the fucking game. The game is 478 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 4: let's get these picks out, and I love it. I 479 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 4: live with this shit. Listen. I was on Tony over 480 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 4: the leach. You know that was a great number at 481 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 4: plus TVD five up. Tony was gonna come in and 482 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 4: wrestle a little bit. He looks pretty good at one seventy. 483 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 4: He looks pretty filled out, Like when he cuts this 484 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 4: fifty five, he's really sunking in like it's very defined. 485 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 4: He looks healthy, he looks good. You know, he's got 486 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 4: his hair gold and he's ready to go. And then 487 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 4: you got Nick Diz, who obviously was training for tremaiyav 488 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 4: so he's obviously been working ground game, working boxing. As 489 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: neck gives ever get tired, he never gets tired, right, 490 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 4: So this is guy. I think it'll play out everywhere. 491 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 4: I think this is gonna be crazy nuts everywhere. There's 492 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 4: gonna be blood. If there's a if there's a bet 493 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 4: on DraftKings sports book, will these guys bleed? And if 494 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 4: it's minus eight million, Hammer writs, because he's. 495 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: Gonna bleed, and they bled just. 496 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 4: Puts vast lean. Nate starts bleeding like, oh shit, I 497 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 4: gotta it's fucking fantastic. I love these and and we've 498 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 4: all talked about it. We would obviously love this fight 499 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 4: to happen sooner, but that's not the reality. 500 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 3: The rally is. 501 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 4: We get them. They're both in their late thirties, they're 502 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 4: both war torn veterans, and we both respect the funk 503 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 4: out of them. And I'm respectful that they took this 504 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 4: fight and they respect for each other the way and 505 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: I thought there might have been a little some ten stuff. 506 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 4: They shook hands was very nice, but they're not gonna 507 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 4: shake hands to mor night. There's gonna be some middle fingers, 508 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: there's gonna be some weird and Minari roles. There's gonna 509 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 4: be some shit going on tomorrow night, and I'm excited 510 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 4: for it. But I gave out Tony, and I feel 511 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 4: like my guy Flow gave out DZ. Right, No, no, no, 512 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 4: he gave about d I feel like he might lean DZ. 513 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 4: I love Diz at plus one hundred. I'm gonna lie 514 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 4: and this line is moving. When I got it, it 515 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 4: was even now it's plus money. But I'm gonna stick 516 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 4: to my guns. I'm gonna say Tony Ferguson in an 517 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 4: all out war and all out decision, it's gonna be bloody, 518 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 4: it's gonna be close, it's gonna be a whole hell 519 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 4: of a lot of fun. But you know, I feel 520 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 4: like Tony it has a little more left. And I 521 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 4: feel like Nate even though this is his last fight, 522 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 4: and he's always a war, he's always a g and 523 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: we all love Nate Diez. I'm just gonna lean lean 524 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 4: Tony here and and and I'll the floor is your flow. 525 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 4: But yeah, I like Tony Ferguson just by a little bit, 526 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 4: just by a little bit in this fight. 527 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 3: And it's gonna be five rounds. Is that correct? Yeah? Correct? 528 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, just making sure that's interesting, all right, because 529 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 6: you know, Ferguson wasn't preparing for five rounds. 530 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 3: Nate Diz was. 531 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: Uh. 532 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 6: Nath Diez has been fighting at one hundred and seventy 533 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 6: pounds for a long time now. He's big. People don't 534 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 6: realize when you when you go up to Nate Dz 535 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 6: and you see how big he is, it typically surprises everybody. 536 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 6: Tony Ferguson not a small lightweight either, but he hasn't 537 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 6: quite packed in or filled into the welterweight division just yet, 538 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 6: where I think Nate Diez definitely has. It has for 539 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 6: a little while. These two are so similar, Like there 540 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 6: are very few Tony Ferguson's and very few Nadiaz but 541 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 6: you look at them, they're so similar. The way that 542 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 6: they fight, the drama, the chaos that they both create, 543 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 6: the blood as you mentioned VP that they bring into 544 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 6: the octagon when they fight. Tony Ferguson has more of 545 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 6: a variety of weapons, you know. He he'll throw elbows, 546 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 6: he'll spin into stuff, he'll do iminari roles. Nate Diaz 547 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 6: more rice and beans, more solid fundamentals when it comes 548 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 6: to grappling. 549 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 3: When it comes to striking, in my opinion. 550 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 6: Doesn't throw as many kicks though as I would like 551 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 6: to see Nadez throw. Maybe it changes for this one, 552 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 6: but I don't think so. Both men love to come forward. 553 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 6: Both men know how to adapt and come back and fights. 554 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 3: For me. You know, both men have about the same experience. 555 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 6: I think Ferguson has like thirty three fights, Nadez has 556 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 6: like thirty four. The big thing for me is Nathiez 557 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 6: his experience at welterweight at this stage of their careers. Uh, 558 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 6: Tony Ferguson moving back up from from lightweight, I think 559 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 6: we'll have a lot of energy early on. But I 560 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 6: think that Nate is going to be able to take 561 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 6: Tony Ferguson's shots a little bit better than Tony's gonna 562 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 6: be able to take his. So I think the experience 563 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 6: of that in that way class, and I think the 564 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 6: size is going to matter in this one. Tony Ferguson's 565 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 6: best bet is to try to get those bows going 566 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 6: and to try to get a lot of low kicks, 567 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 6: whether it's to the calf or to the lead leg 568 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 6: from the south past stance of Nate Diez, to try 569 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 6: to slow him down. And he's got to he's got 570 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 6: to fight smart, he's got to go in and out. 571 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 6: That's the way you beat dis You beat him with discipline, 572 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 6: You meet him, you beat him with footwork, You beat 573 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 6: him with his ability to kind of, you know, stay 574 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 6: flat footed while you move around the cage. Latterally all 575 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 6: that stuff. Tony possesses that ability, I think, but he 576 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 6: can't help himself if he becomes a fight. 577 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 3: He just can't. 578 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 6: That's just way, that's the way he's built. He's gonna 579 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 6: move forward and he can still win that fight. I 580 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 6: just think that's gonna favor the larger man here, uh 581 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 6: and the guy who's been at welt Waite a little 582 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 6: bit longer. And I know Tony Ferguson has a history 583 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 6: of fighting at welts Waite as well, right from the 584 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 6: Ultimate Fighter all that stuff, but he has made his 585 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 6: name from that amazing streak fighting at lightweight and he's 586 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 6: fought some of the best in the world in in 587 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 6: the lightweight class. He's had some tough losses recently. Nate 588 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 6: has as well, you know, the last few fights. So 589 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 6: I love this fight. This fight makes so much sense 590 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 6: for me. Both guys deserve all the respect in the world. 591 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 6: Love the way that these guys fight. I just like 592 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 6: Nate Diaz here. Does it go to a finish, I'm 593 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 6: not sure, but if it goes five rounds, guys, this 594 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 6: is gonna be another classics fight. I mean, this is 595 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 6: just a no brainer and well done to the UFC 596 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 6: for making it happen guys, except. 597 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 4: In a point I want to make that Kenny May, 598 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 4: that's gonna completely contradict what I said nasman training at 599 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 4: one seventy four or five rounds. Tony took this fight 600 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 4: on relatively short notice up away, which he hasn't fought 601 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 4: in a while, and he's going five rounds. Now Tony's 602 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 4: one of those wired different kind of guys. I think 603 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 4: he eats five rounds for breakfast. But that's still when 604 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 4: you when you're a high level guy against a bigger man. 605 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 4: You know that plus number with what Kenny just said 606 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 4: is very interesting. But I'm still gonna rock with Elku Kui. 607 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 4: I mus still rock with my guy. I'm not gonna 608 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna jump ship. But Kenny made some really 609 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 4: good points there well. 610 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 5: And something he did say in the press conference leading 611 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 5: up to that, the press conferences that actually happened was 612 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 5: that he started sparring again for this camp. He hasn't 613 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 5: sparred in like five or six years. I'm pretty sure 614 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 5: he wasn't sparring for a. 615 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: Five round fight. So that's true. 616 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 5: You know, that's a fact if you're you know, and 617 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 5: Kenny can speak to this better than I can. But 618 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 5: if you're mentally going in there with a game plan 619 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 5: that you've drilled and prepared for those three rounds and 620 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 5: you have to extrapolate that over a twenty five minute fight, 621 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 5: I feel like that's a little bit of a different 622 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 5: ass Strategically, it is. 623 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 6: The whole The whole camp is different if you're preparing 624 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 6: for five rounds. In my opinion and in my experience, 625 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 6: could I have gone five rounds, sure, But for me, 626 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 6: it's the mental component of knowing that you have prepared 627 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 6: for five rounds. You know, typically for three round fights, 628 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 6: I would do five rounders anyway, but you know, maybe 629 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 6: six rounds. But it's just the consistency from your strength 630 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 6: and conditioning to your boxing rounds, to your MMA rounds, 631 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 6: to your kickboxing rounds. 632 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 3: To your shoot boxing rounds. 633 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 6: All of that revolves around going five hard rounds, not 634 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 6: three hard rounds. And getting that switch up mentally is 635 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 6: very different for a fighter in my experience. So but 636 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 6: Tony is very strong mentally, and this dude really doesn't 637 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 6: get tired, so he's got that going for. 638 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 4: Uh, Buffalo on the beat, I'm gonna go ahead and 639 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 4: call you out right here. Yes, this could definitely end 640 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 4: in a draw. Uh, that would be exciting because the 641 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 4: Nate's gone and we're gonna be craving for a rematch. 642 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 4: And you know five thousand, Hey put a couple put 643 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 4: a tenner on it. 644 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 3: What's that? 645 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 4: Put a couple of coffee on it? You ain't get 646 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 4: you ain't getting miss that money. But Kenny, I want 647 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 4: to ask you what you were mentioning when you did 648 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 4: five round camps. Did you do longer camps or just 649 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 4: do more in the set time like eight to six weeks, 650 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 4: whatever your camp was, I would. 651 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 3: Do it was both, it was it was longer. Yeah, 652 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: it was both too. I did. 653 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 6: I would do a longer camp in some ways. I 654 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 6: would kind of build a stronger foundation and then kind 655 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 6: of go into you know, the five round preparation more specifically. 656 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: So my street conditioning was way more intense. 657 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 6: You know, just the training and the management of all 658 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 6: that was was very different. So yeah, it's it's just 659 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 6: and you just you know, you did the work, you 660 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 6: know what I mean? And I think being unsettled with 661 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 6: that heading into a five round fight could could mess 662 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 6: with certain guys. I think it probably would have messed 663 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 6: me knowing that, man, did I am I one hundred 664 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 6: percent prepared for this? 665 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. But Tony Ferguson is a different cat. 666 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 3: Dude's different. 667 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 6: He moves different, he does everything differently. So I'm curious 668 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 6: to see what his approach is going to be here 669 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 6: against Nate Diaz. 670 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 3: Does he start slow? Can he afford to start slow? 671 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 6: Does he start fast and try to take Nadez out 672 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 6: fight from the get go? 673 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: It's gonna be fascinating. 674 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Tony, Tony's thirty eight years old, thinks he can 675 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 4: make a major league team pitching. So this guy is different. 676 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 4: That's a hard thing to do. 677 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 5: And look how he approached the you know, the fight 678 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 5: that you called Kenny the Landovnana fight. You know, it's 679 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 5: you know, he kind of went out there with more 680 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 5: of a reckless event and had to reel that back, 681 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 5: you know, because he realized, like, this is a real 682 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 5: fight now. So it'll be interesting to see what Tony 683 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 5: shows up. And my question to you guys and Kenny 684 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 5: start with you and then we can get on out 685 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 5: of here. But who has the most to lose in 686 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 5: this fight now? Because you know, does Tony buy himself 687 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 5: another loss in the UFC, you know, stepping up on 688 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 5: short notice like this, you know, does he get a 689 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 5: bit of a sam Alvi treatment? And then for Nate, 690 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 5: you know, a loss against Tony Ferguson, does that hurt 691 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 5: him worse than a lost against Tamaiev? 692 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 6: I would say on a card of of these, of 693 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 6: this kind of magnitude, I think that Tony Ferguson is 694 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 6: doing the UFC a big favor and losing, even. 695 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: If he loses quickly, I still think he's going to 696 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 3: be just fine. 697 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 6: And again, given what he did at one hundred and 698 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 6: threty five pounds, the fact that this is a short 699 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 6: you know notice fight, he's doing them a big favor. 700 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 3: He will be just fine. 701 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 6: So I don't think he has much to lose here. 702 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 6: I also think this is a fight that he's wanted 703 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 6: for a very long time for a couple of reasons. 704 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 6: You know, anytime you fight Idaz brother at this stage 705 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 6: of the game, it's gonna mean more money down the line, 706 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 6: and it's it's the opportunity of a lifetime to beat 707 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 6: one of those guys and then elevate yourself, like this 708 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 6: is what Nate did against Connor, right, his life was 709 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 6: never the same after that. He is one of the 710 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 6: biggest stars in the UFC for that reason and the 711 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 6: way that he delivers fight. Tony Ferguson is that same dude, 712 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 6: so he's got nothing to lose here. 713 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 714 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 6: I think this kind of favors Nate Diez in a 715 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 6: way really because I think this is a fight that 716 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 6: he would prefer. I don't think he's gonna be as 717 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 6: concerned with the takedown in stalling. There's not gonna be 718 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 6: a whole lot of stalling when you fight someone like 719 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 6: Tony Ferguson. I think Nate Diez is probably the better grappler. 720 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 6: I know Tony is dangerous on the ground as well. 721 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 6: I just think Nate's probably the cleaner, more experienced grappler 722 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 6: in my opinion's longer limbs too, He's. 723 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: Bigger, you know, Nate. Nate is very slick. 724 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 6: It's his foundations that I think are so solid, which 725 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 6: is gonna be the difference here. Tony Ferguson more dangerous 726 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 6: and sniping with his submission attacks, But I think Nate 727 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 6: Diez is the better grappler. 728 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: Uh. 729 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 6: Tony has more weapons on the feet, though he's gonna 730 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 6: have to use him, and he's gonna have to be 731 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 6: smart getting getting out so he can't fall for those 732 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 6: traps up against the cage and getting caught there because 733 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 6: Nate will attack the body, slow you down, and touch 734 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 6: you with that jab. So it's gonna be a fascinating fight. So, yeah, 735 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 6: those are my thoughts. BP, I don't know what you think. 736 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't really think there's gonna be a loser. 737 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 4: I hate to be the asshole. I can't answer your question, 738 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 4: but I think Tony has more to win. So if Tony, 739 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 4: because he's gonna be in the UFC and he goes, 740 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 4: I just beat Nate. I'm on this four or five fight, skid. 741 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 4: I took it on short notice. He could really be 742 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 4: a champion. If Nate wins or loses, he still has 743 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 4: that army right if he goes out, and you know 744 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 4: there's the rumors he's gonna box Jake Paul, that's still 745 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 4: gonna be massive, Like that's the Nate's the type of 746 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 4: guy who's on that Connor level where even if he loses, 747 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 4: he's still gonna be big. I mean, look at the 748 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 4: Leon Edwards fight. People only remember that one punch Nate 749 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 4: was getting smoked up into that one punch, you know 750 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 4: what I mean, and the and the mozlet. I'll fight 751 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 4: the b MFL Nate. I mean it was kind of competitive, 752 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 4: but not really. And people still it doesn't matter, like 753 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 4: Nate has thirteen losses, like, people don't care. So I 754 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 4: don't think either have much to lose. I just think 755 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 4: Tony has more to win, uh and especially since he's 756 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 4: sticking around and getting that doing a favor from UFC 757 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 4: and getting a big shine having the Diaz on your resume, 758 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 4: even if Nate does have thirteen losses, that's still a 759 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 4: really nice name on your resume for sure. 760 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 5: Boys, I'm excited, and we we know with all the 761 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 5: drama that's happened this week, there's been a certain irishman 762 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 5: that's been a little quiet on social media. 763 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 4: Song. 764 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 5: I guarantee that we get a little bit of an 765 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 5: interest from. 766 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 4: He's he's busy on his boat, you know what I mean. 767 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 4: He's busy on his boat. 768 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 5: Definitely busy on that, yeah, in one of his boats. 769 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 4: I'm surprised. The one thing I will say about Connor McGregor, 770 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 4: like I had a lot of theories going around that 771 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 4: Tamaya thinks he's the man, He's the main event. They're 772 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 4: not going to cancel this. I'm the guy, so I 773 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 4: can miss weaight. Conor McGregor is the biggest star of 774 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 4: this sport has ever seen, and he's never missweight. That 775 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 4: guy comes in, you know, one five championship, wait, one 776 00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 4: seventy whatever. 777 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 3: Injured, Yeah, injured or not? 778 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 4: Right, So I know we want to throw dark to Connor. 779 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 4: I'm a Connor guy. He comes in and he could 780 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 4: be like a Costo or even you know, assuming that 781 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 4: Tamaya and be like, I'm not gonna make way fuck that. 782 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 4: Let's do it at one sixty five. Let's do it whatever. 783 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 4: I'm not cutting fifty five. He's never done that, and 784 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 4: he has the leverage to do that. So you know, 785 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 4: Connor is a professional. Even if he's you know, forty 786 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 4: five minutes late for the WAYNS and the press conference, 787 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 4: he's gonna be he's gonna he's gonna be on time, 788 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 4: or he's gonna be on wait. So I wanted to 789 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 4: I want to get the Connor shout out out there 790 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 4: is I love the guy? 791 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 5: Well, I think we're all Connor fans right, all right? 792 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 5: Fifty G's Kenny Kenny. Well, I mean I think that 793 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 5: that's the most interesting scenario, right, Nate wins, it sets 794 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 5: up a potential Connor fight. That's really the only scenario 795 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 5: that'll keep Nate around in the UFC. 796 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, but here's the thing. 797 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 6: You have Connor McGregor's sports and entertainment, right Connor Connor 798 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 6: is not I guess he's out of the out of 799 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 6: the testing pool right now. Uh, Nate started his own promotion. 800 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 6: Connor's got his own Ah. Maybe maybe they're like, Okay, well, 801 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 6: why don't we just keep all the money to ourselves? 802 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 3: So I don who knows what's gonna happen. 803 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 6: Yes, it might be them staying in the UFC, but 804 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 6: also might be them doing their own thing too. 805 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 5: So right, if I come with you Kenny and say, hey, 806 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 5: we're gonna get a hundred dollars, but we're gonna pay 807 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 5: forty out to some random dude, right, we're like, why 808 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 5: don't we just split the fifty? Yeah? 809 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 3: Exactly right? 810 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 4: What are we doing? By the way, that that call, Kenny, 811 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 4: I've never told you this before is I don't want 812 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 4: to fanboy too much since we're on podcast together, but 813 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 4: your Connor call over Marcus Brammage is one of my 814 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 4: all time favorite. 815 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 5: Ah. 816 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 3: Thanks. 817 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 4: I was talking about him because when he came to 818 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 4: the UFC, I it was you. It was in Sweden, 819 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 4: it was it was a day card for us here 820 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 4: in the States, and I remember knowing about it, like 821 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 4: double champ. I knew, you know, I follow kids worries 822 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 4: and and then I was like, and Marcus Brammage, you know, 823 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 4: he came from the fight or whatever. But you called 824 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 4: that perfect, bro. 825 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: I love that, Thanks man. That was fun. Well, fellas, 826 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 3: this is a lot of fun. 827 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 5: So I appreciate you guys getting on last minute, you know, 828 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 5: very last minute for the entire promotion, for the entire 829 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 5: fan base, and I'm sure everyone watching appreciates it. Over 830 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 5: one thousand strong here on behalf of the Antik and 831 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 5: Florian Podcast. 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