1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines. 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: This he is Hanging with the Boys, presented by wing 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 3: Stuff Where Flavor gets its wings. 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 4: Now your hosts. 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross Shooting. 8 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 4: Thursday. 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 5: You look alive at Tostitos Championship Plaza outside Fort Center 10 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 5: at the Star in Frisco, Texas, where it is eighty 11 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 5: one degrees. The high is eighty five, the lowest sixty seven. 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 4: It's beautiful. He is Shennon. 13 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 6: That is Nate. 14 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 4: This is Kurt Daniels. In the back is Chris bean 15 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 4: Keeping is live a local. I am Salt and Pepper Poppy. 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 4: Together we make Hanging with the Boys the sports talk 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 4: equivalent of Braille. People when we speak. 18 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 5: Brought to you each and every day by Wingstop where 19 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 5: Flavor gets. 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 4: It's wee y'all smell it? 21 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 5: First off, how are y'all? Maybe, how are y'all first 22 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 5: time we've been together? 23 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 4: How we doing? We're good? 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: Good? 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 4: Good? 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 6: Okay? 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 4: Now do you smell it? 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 5: Football right on the other side of that wall kind. 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: Of underwere Olympics. 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's close OTAs. So anybody go out there earlier. 31 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 5: Look care, nobody care, nobody cares. Great, okay, well nice show. 32 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 5: Oh what are we doing? What are we doing? Why 33 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 5: are we doing this again? OTAs have started? No Michael 34 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 5: Parsons contract. 35 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 6: What are we doing? 36 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 7: Good? 37 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: Good job, Michael. We do like that. 38 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: Yes, they say he's holding out not because of the money, 39 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: but because missus Jones don't know who his agent is, 40 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: his agent, it's like his personality. 41 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 4: But why are we doing this? This is this is 42 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 4: Micah not being here is common law. That's it. You 43 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 4: pay the man his money. 44 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 5: I'm not talking about that. I get that. I agree 45 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 5: with Micah. Why we not paid the man? This is 46 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 5: deja vu? What's the definition of insanity doing the same result? 47 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 4: Cowboy forgot that tattooed on their why on their chest? 48 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 5: You knew all you knew for You've known for how 49 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 5: five years? Four years that this was going to happen 50 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 5: at this time of year, and every year it cost 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 5: you money, and it cost you collateral, and it costs. 52 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 8: You and they always wind up paying them with due they. 53 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 5: Okay, So my question is do they do this on 54 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 5: purpose to stay in the news and stay relevant and 55 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 5: have the buzz. 56 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 4: So a good friend of mine, Happy birthday to my 57 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: good friend, Jeffrey Cravinall. Happy birthday, Jeff. He had a 58 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 4: theory that I when I heard it, I said, hmm. 59 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 4: And the more I've thought about it, the more I 60 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 4: potentially believe it. You subscribe to this theory, I think, 61 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 4: so ell us. 62 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 5: Please, so, Jeff said conspiracy. 63 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 4: Jeff said that one of the reasons why the Cowboys 64 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 4: wait till the very last minute to pay players is 65 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: because they don't have the money. They have the money 66 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 4: they want to keep. They want to keep money in 67 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: the bank and or the keep growing interest. So if 68 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: I pay him early, I can't keep collecting. 69 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 5: Interest on this money business. 70 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 4: That if I wait to the very last moment, I 71 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: still get an opportunity. The money's gonna get paid right, 72 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: like we're all we are all under the knowledge and 73 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: sound mind of Mike is gonna get paid right, like 74 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 4: he would be the He would be the absolute weirdest 75 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 4: one that you decide not to pay right. You paid Zeke, 76 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 4: you paid Zach, you paid Dak, you paid CD, you 77 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: paid all the other holdouts tank and everybody hold it. 78 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 4: They got paid. So there's no in my mind, it's 79 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 4: not an if it's win. But the theory of that 80 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 4: money continues to collect interest as long as it says, 81 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 4: as long as it is in his bank account and. 82 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 6: Not as he told you four years ago. And they 83 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 6: laughed at me. 84 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: I told him, I say, they just wait because it 85 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: ain't like it's ten thousand dollars five percent interest. 86 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 6: It's thirty one million. 87 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, ten percentry because you dictate 88 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: to the bank, I need ten percent. If you want 89 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: this thirty one minute, I need ten percent. 90 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 5: So according to chat GPT, the simple interest rate, which 91 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 5: I'm sure when you have as much money as mister Jones, 92 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 5: there's all kinds of bunky interest rates. Simple interest rate 93 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 5: on Let's just say one hundred million dollars over one 94 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 5: year is a million dollars. 95 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 4: You up that to ten percent. 96 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 5: That's ten million dollars, ten extra million dollars for holding 97 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 5: on to that. Let's just say it's one hundred million 98 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 5: that you have to pay micahh ten million dollars over 99 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 5: the course of a year could be that's a lot 100 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 5: of moment, that's. 101 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 6: A lot of money. 102 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 4: What I'm saying, it's like that not a far fetched out. 103 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 4: It's like, I'm gonna give them the money. 104 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 5: So if it costs them an extra twenty million on 105 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 5: the back end, they still made eighty million. 106 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 4: Still eighty million, eighty million. Now I can go invest 107 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: that in something else. 108 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 5: I can hang on to that to the last minute 109 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 5: and make another. 110 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 4: See, they're playing money games that we don't even that's 111 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: the business side of footbaight. We don't even we don't 112 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: even understand that because we don't even in those fields. 113 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 4: We don't don't that playground, that type of rich money playground. 114 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 6: We don't. 115 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 4: We don't play in that field. We pay taxes, they 116 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: get around it. 117 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 6: We don't. We don't get it. 118 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 4: We don't play in that playground. And it might be 119 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 4: far fetched, but. 120 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 6: It's close to the truth. And what over these other 121 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 6: guys making up. 122 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 4: You're blaming for doing that, not the business side, would you? 123 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 4: And that's the and that's the thing unless you. 124 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 5: Only when we, I mean we you guys talk about 125 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 5: this all the time, the star and the m and 126 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 5: you know, the players talk about the tours and all 127 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 5: that stuff. 128 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: That's the thing. 129 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 5: If if you don't have other as a football team. 130 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 5: If it's just football, that that that stuff doesn't come 131 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 5: with it. 132 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 4: You your football football. 133 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 5: Jerry has so many different interests in so many different 134 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 5: business he understands that part of it. Like he understands 135 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 5: like Okay, now if I do this that that I 136 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 5: totally could buy into that. 137 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: And like he gets that. 138 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 5: That's how his mind work hits it. 139 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 4: Like you said to him, Okay, if it costs me 140 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 4: an extra ten to twenty million dollars in the back end, 141 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: I'm still eighty million up right, I'm still eighty up 142 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 4: And because we have to, we have to believe that 143 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 4: there is enough financially literate people, contractually literate people that 144 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: are roaming in this building. I mean, hell, you can 145 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 4: get any Tom Dick or Harry to get on the 146 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 4: internet and tell you how a contract is broken down, right, 147 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: Like that's not a hard thing to do. There's enough 148 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: YouTube pages. If you go out there, they'll tell you 149 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 4: how this is slotted for this. All you have to 150 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 4: do is go say who was the last person to 151 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 4: get the highest paid nine quarterback contract. There's the blueprint, 152 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 4: there's a foundation, and now we build off that. When 153 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 4: Jerry and when Jerry came out of a month or 154 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 4: so ago and he said, or they alluded to that, 155 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: he and Micah had a meeting of the minds. They 156 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: sat in the room and they came to some sort 157 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 4: of figure, whether it be years, money guaranteed, whatever that 158 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 4: number is. Jerry walked out of that meeting and said, cool, 159 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 4: now I know. Now I know what the number is. 160 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: Now I don't gotta sign it today because today doesn't 161 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: change the number being what it is, give or take 162 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 4: a million or two, right, And that's that's all depending 163 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 4: upon if Trey Hendrickson gets a deal that now takes 164 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 4: him over who is it, Miles Garrett has a last 165 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: right like the last highest paid deal or whatever. Whoever's 166 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: the last person to have the last non quarterbacks? Yeah, 167 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 4: so what right, there's my foundation. Okay, I know that's 168 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 4: whatever Max Crosby got. That's where I start. That's not 169 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 4: a hard thing to deal with. Now we can kind 170 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 4: of play a tuggle war with the years. Maybe if 171 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 4: there's some other underlining thing, you know, off season bonuses. 172 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 4: You gotta be here this in the third that's that's 173 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 4: milutia in the in the whole grand scheme of thing. 174 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 4: If I got the big numbers down, the years, the guarantees, 175 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 4: if I have those down, it's now just okay cool. 176 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 8: Do you think the player and agent recognize this and 177 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 8: they're okay with it? 178 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 4: I think if David, if if I think David mumlu 179 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: Getta is as smart as I believe he. 180 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 5: Is, sure he probably he probably loves it. 181 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 4: But for his for for his thing is it's the 182 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 4: quicker he can get it signed. The quicker it gets 183 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 4: the interest, gets it his better right. The quicker he 184 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 4: has something for David mullo Gatta. It's not necessarily the money. 185 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: It is the money, right, But every passing day that 186 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 4: that deal isn't signed is a passing day that something 187 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: catastrophic can happen to his one of his most prized possessions. 188 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 5: And in that business, you you eat what you kill. 189 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 4: So he's like, hey, let's sign today because tomorrow. I mean, 190 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: life is funny, right, Life is funny, And I'm not 191 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: This is not me wishing anything negative, but I'm just saying, 192 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 4: weird things happen, Weird things happen. Mike is very active. 193 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 4: He's very active. He's traveling now, I believe something right, 194 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 4: So wherever he may land anything. I mean, you can 195 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: trip coming off, come out of first class wrestling, you 196 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 4: can sumo wrestler and tear totin. I don't know, but 197 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 4: for David Maulugetta, it's the sooner I get this thing inked, 198 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 4: the sooner my client becomes the richest non quarterback deal 199 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 4: in NFL history. The riches. 200 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 6: Then to every college, you say, see what I did exactly? 201 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 5: You ever heard of Michael Parsons I got, I got zero, 202 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 5: I got the riches. 203 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 4: I got the richest guarantee contract in Deshaun Watson. I 204 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: got the richest non quarterback guarantee in Michael Parsons. I 205 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 4: got the richest the cornerback contract in NFL history and 206 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 4: j C. Horn Before god, I had the other one 207 00:10:58,960 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: in Jayalen Ramsey. 208 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 8: Right, So yeah, he wants to sign now, he has 209 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 8: to take less money. If he wants to wait, then 210 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 8: Jerry's going to get his on the I'm just. 211 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 5: Saying, and I can buy into that, So just Kirk 212 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 5: call me out if I'm wrong. 213 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: Though, Well, you know what the thing about it is, 214 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 2: you don't have to buy into it. The bank accounts 215 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 2: just scrolls, and. 216 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 4: That's what this is. 217 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 5: How this is how the mind works right around here. 218 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 4: Is Legends. 219 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 5: You've heard everybody's heard of Legends, right. 220 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 4: The way Legends started was basically years and years ago. 221 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 5: They're all these companies that made you know, concession companies, 222 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 5: right like I think Levi and there's some other ones. 223 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 5: And they would come into all these venues because, you know, 224 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 5: sporting events. 225 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 4: You're not in the cooking business. 226 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 5: You're in the entertainment business, the ticket business, the on 227 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 5: field of the business. So all these companies had a 228 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 5: business where they would come in and they would they 229 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 5: would out they would outsource your food, and. 230 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 4: They brings big time. 231 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 5: Caterer is huge for game days, big you know, thousands 232 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 5: of hundreds of thousands of people. And you know, Jerry 233 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 5: looked at that model and he was like, I can 234 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 5: make a hot dog, we can make hot dogs, we 235 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 5: make popcorn, we can make hot dogs. Let me see 236 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 5: what they're doing. I can do this for my stadium. 237 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 5: And you know what, if I do it good enough, 238 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 5: why would I compete with you guys? 239 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 4: So they formed Legends with you know. 240 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 5: I think it was at the time, was a Yankee 241 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 5: and his sacks and they were all partners and they 242 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 5: did it, you know, as Jerry does. He gets in there, 243 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 5: rolls and sleeves up, he figures it out and goes, 244 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 5: you know what, we're actually doing it better than these guys. 245 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 5: Let's go get that business. And then that turned into 246 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 5: merchandising and ticket sales and premium seating sales and tours 247 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 5: and now it's its own business and that's just the way. 248 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 5: So yes, one hundred percent I buy it because his mind, 249 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 5: just the. 250 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 4: Is in half of NFL stadium and other sports and overseas, 251 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 4: he's in like everywhere. So that's just he's making money 252 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 4: at game that he's not even playing, so he's he's 253 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: thinking that way. 254 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think football is the most important thing in 255 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 5: his life because I think he would do anything to 256 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 5: win another one. But like, hey, that money's making money, 257 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 5: and that money's making money, and why wouldn't So that 258 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 5: totally makes it. 259 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 4: One thing I'll never forget. And when I heard it, 260 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 4: it made sense, but I was just show shocked. And 261 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: this is how I know that I'll never be able 262 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 4: to fully get to the depths of where and how 263 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 4: and all the places that Jerry makes money. They were 264 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 4: having a conversation about a year or so ago about 265 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 4: playing overseas when they had the game in Brazil, right, 266 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: was it Brazil? Was it Brazil? Yeah, Yes, the game 267 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 4: was in Brazil. 268 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 269 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 4: And they were talking about it and they was asking Jerry, like, hey, 270 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 4: would you have a game in Brazil? Yeah? No, And 271 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 4: he said it so casually that a lot of people 272 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 4: did just missed out on it. He said, basically no, 273 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 4: but said, you know, I like that, I like that. 274 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 4: I like Brazil. I owned a couple of car dealerships 275 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 4: out there, and I. 276 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 2: Said I remember that, I remember a couple of cars, 277 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: and they and it is like right over. 278 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 4: Wait, wait, wait what what what? 279 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 6: What's the follow up? 280 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 4: Over? Like it's just he's just like you basically, no, 281 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: I'm if I'm a player, I don't want to give 282 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: home games up. And if I do, I kind of 283 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: want to go to Mexico City, you know, the Mexico 284 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 4: Mexico City type thing. But he said, yeah, you know, 285 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 4: great people, great place. 286 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 6: Owned a couple of. 287 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: Car dealerships out there, and it just it just went 288 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 4: on with the next question. I was like, wait, what. 289 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: It's about, Like, he's just unreal, man, h some of 290 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: the things, you know, Uh, one year he was number four, 291 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: number five, or six highest, you know, wealthy wealths man. 292 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 6: And two years later he moved up up the list 293 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 6: and then. 294 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: He just said it so like, oh man, they found 295 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 2: out I owned a few more things. 296 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 6: And he just kept right on talking. 297 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 4: You just get like, wow, that's that's great insight. 298 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: Jesse never yeah, thought that well, I promised. They laughed 299 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: at me when I brought that up. I say, he's 300 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: making more money. I wanted as elaborated, you know, specific, but. 301 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 6: He's making money off of these contracts that he hold out. 302 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's when I that's when I first 303 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: found out that the more money you have, the more 304 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: when you go. 305 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 6: To a bank you can negotiate. 306 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you got millions and millions of dollars and 307 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: you say, hey, man, I need my money for the 308 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: eight dollars, Well, sir, let me check your account sir, what. 309 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 6: Can we do? Would you like in advanced Yeah. 310 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: Because if you take that type of money out of 311 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: somebody's bank, you cramped their style. That lending ability goes 312 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: down just a notch. 313 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 5: Wow man, all right, that's one thing we don't have 314 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 5: to worry about in this room. 315 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 6: I don't big yes, yes, don't let your house go 316 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 6: to chopping blocks. It will be like a vaulture. 317 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 4: There will be signed spirk you create, it will be signed. 318 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 4: If I forget that, well, I will be signs like 319 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: you won't be here. 320 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 6: I'll be here, you know. 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You know what you know? 380 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 5: Pat him out the buildings four more months, my back 381 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 5: game four week four. 382 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 4: He got him out the building. 383 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 6: My bad. 384 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, You're right, you're absolutely right. 385 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 6: Crushing him from the start. 386 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 8: Coach say that, but players want that. I mean players 387 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 8: are competitive by nature. By nature, I mean it's they're 388 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 8: gonna remember when I was with the Stars, were just 389 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 8: sitting around waiting on the bus, a bunch of guys playing. 390 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 8: Before you know it, they're throwing quarters and get it 391 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 8: closest to the wall. 392 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 4: You know, it's just competitive. 393 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 8: No, I'm sorry, there's always something man, No, no, tryers 394 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 8: are built like that. 395 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 4: Yes, you want to compete at everything, but I'm sorry, continue, No, no, 396 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 4: go ahead, I don't know what. No, I just go ahead, finish. 397 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 6: Do you like that? 398 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 4: Is Every coach liked that. Every coach says that coach speak. 399 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 5: It's we want to be competitive every day and we'll 400 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 5: you know, play you wherever, the moon, the parking lot, whatever. 401 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 6: You know. 402 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 5: That's all, but like saying it and then and then 403 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 5: doing it right, like the ping pong table and setting 404 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 5: things up for it. And I was going to ask 405 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 5: you that we we talked about this last week. 406 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 4: Why you were gone. 407 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 5: It's a couple of the players have said they haven't 408 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 5: seen an environment like this, right it's early on. 409 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 4: It's you know, they've. 410 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 5: Got ping pong going on. They're competing they're staying around. 411 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 4: Just that Jesse brought this up. 412 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 5: It's important to stay around and hey, just hang out with. 413 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 4: The guys, spend quality time. You guys did. 414 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 5: That a lot, right where y'allall were always at the 415 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 5: facility playing dominoes. 416 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 6: Whatever, even when you want to do playing cards, how 417 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 6: the facility. 418 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, in the area of the facility. 419 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 5: Don't spend a lot of quality time after and before practice? 420 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 4: Quality quality? 421 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 5: How important is that to not like when the meetings 422 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 5: are over, to grab your bag and go. How did 423 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 5: how did that bond you guys? 424 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 4: On game day? 425 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 5: Knowing that like just you know, you get to know them, right. 426 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, you get to know guys personally, their families, who's single, 427 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 2: who's not. You know, you get to know the little 428 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 2: nuances of what irritates a guy whatever, Because that. 429 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 5: Translated into wins and losses, ends on the game. 430 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 6: It has a little bit to do with it. It 431 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 6: has it has a little bit to do with it. 432 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 2: Because if me and Jesse are truly bond, you know, 433 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: and he said, hey, man, I need for you to 434 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: come do his show, you know, well, Jesse, I'll tell 435 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: you I may have acted kind of nonchalant here, but 436 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: tell him what happened Jess showed up? 437 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was like, you know what now, I. 438 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 2: Just can't tell Jes to this and not so I 439 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: showed up before they was ready. 440 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 6: For me to show up. 441 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 4: He changed because because. 442 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: If you truly about somebody and you say your word 443 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 2: is everything, that that And that's where Michael Irving got 444 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 2: a lot of us, you know, because he would hang 445 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 2: out he want a big domino guy whatever, but he 446 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: would be there, you know, talking on the side, and 447 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: he would get to know you to the point where 448 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: hey man, what did you tell me by you say 449 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: he was gonna work out? 450 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 6: Or Charles had to say, hey man, I'm over here 451 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 6: to work out. 452 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: So it depends on who your leaders are and how 453 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: they hold you. You know, every day guy like me 454 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: and you we just to kick a old guy. We 455 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: gonna do what we do, you know, but we go 456 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: get out that door. But if you and Kirk got 457 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: a real bunker, like where are you going? Man? Now, 458 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 2: all of a sudden I see you like, well you 459 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: come on, Shane, and like nah, I got told Curt, I. 460 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 6: Don't do this. 461 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: All of a sudden I got to wait on you. 462 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, I'm called up in that workout, 463 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 2: just like, yeah, so it just been known who them 464 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: leaders are and what type of relationship they have. 465 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 8: Okay, didn't work like that in your your round. 466 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: It's just I'm telling you everybody can't. Everybody's not built 467 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: to be a leader. I'm telling you everybody's not built 468 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 2: to be a leader. 469 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 6: You know. 470 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 4: Uh, just because you're the best player. 471 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 6: Don't make you the leader. 472 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 4: Don't make you the leader. I mean, I know it 473 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 4: sounds like one plus one should be two, but I'm 474 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 4: just saying that that doesn't, I agree, necessarily translate to 475 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 4: being how it should be. 476 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, there's so much that goes into I mean, there's 477 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 8: good on field leaders that aren't necessarily locker room guys. 478 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 8: I would think I'm Troy because you gotta troll. 479 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: Was that good on field leader? Now, even though he 480 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: could give you a look and it you know, and 481 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 2: it made you straighten up. He can give you a 482 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: look you know, he'll look at you and it'll make 483 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 2: you get in line. 484 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 6: But off the field, he wasn't Off the field you 485 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 6: helping guys. 486 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: He was gonna well, he did help me with some commercials, 487 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 2: but I. 488 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 4: I mean that was that was a guy like I 489 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 4: can't say, but that was like a guy like Jason Whitten, 490 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 4: like he led by example. Yes, you know, hey, come 491 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: to practice, do what I do. But it wasn't like. 492 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 6: Watch film, big hangout guy. 493 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 4: When he left here, he went home. 494 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 8: Yea soul of guys in the locker room. Will they 495 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 8: follow that guy who's just lead by example on field? 496 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 7: Ors? 497 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 6: Does he? 498 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 8: Kind of? 499 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 6: Everybody has their place and time. 500 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: Everybody has the present time because when the game gets 501 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: when the game gets tight, you know, you got your 502 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 2: emotional leader in Mike. You know who's out who was 503 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 2: our true team leader? 504 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 6: You got him. But watch Troy. You know he he's historic, 505 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 6: he's calm. You know, Mike over there got your geeked 506 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 6: and hype. 507 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 2: But you need to calm down, bro, You need to 508 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 2: calm down there because you're gonna jump off side. Look 509 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: at Troy. So yeah, each guy has this place. Charles 510 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: Haley was different, he was a leader. He was different, 511 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: Woody different. Every guy has this place, and every guy 512 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: knew when to. 513 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 6: To uh enforce who he was. 514 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 4: You know, uh, do you think you think I'm sorry 515 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 4: to cut you off? That's key, knowing when to as 516 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 4: search your leadership. That's key because sometimes you know what, 517 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 4: this is Michael Irvi's time. No, this ain't my time. 518 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 4: This this, this occasion calls for a Michael Irvin cussing 519 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 4: out yes for everybody, this is this isn't my time 520 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,239 Speaker 4: to come in and be Yeah, whatever I'm supposed to be, 521 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 4: you know what I'm I'm gonna sit back and take 522 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 4: it like the rest of us. Sometimes it's we need 523 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 4: the rationale of a Woodie wood He gonna calm us 524 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 4: and give us the rationale and give us a strategic type. 525 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 4: That's his time, you know so I think that's that's key. 526 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 4: It's you have a bunch of leaders, but it's it's 527 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 4: the ones that delegated at the right time, because in 528 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 4: certain tense moments, don't come in here yelling at me. 529 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, not this ain't this ain't the moment. This 530 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 4: ain't the moment I need you come in here screaming 531 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 4: whether my whether my energy isn't awful or I'm hot sprung. 532 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 4: But you coming here yelling and fussing. Now, I'm yelling 533 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 4: and fussing your situation worse. 534 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 6: It made it worse. 535 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 5: And if you hear the same message all the time 536 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 5: from the same people. 537 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 4: It kind of falls on deaf ears. Yeah, sometimes like 538 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 4: you you that is so that's so good right there. 539 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 4: That's so key, man. It's it's when when that leader 540 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 4: asserts his or her type of leadership in the proper 541 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 4: moments that that is key that can calm the storm, 542 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 4: that can keep the train on the tracks, that can 543 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 4: bring guys back together when you have the right leaders 544 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 4: using their leadership style in the moments that is needed. 545 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 6: Can you because Haley could could go Haley would go go, go, 546 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 6: go off, and you know, into the secondary y'all need 547 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 6: to do and would it be like. 548 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 4: Okay, okay? 549 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 6: And then but he'll pull his boys. 550 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: You can see him say, hey, fellas, look here, I 551 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 2: got this. Listen to my call. Just pay attention to 552 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 2: my call. You know, everybody, just calm down and get 553 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: back to you know, and Charles a bit, you know, 554 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 2: be over there, you know, doing what he do. But 555 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: I love our blend of guys, and I'm gonna tell you, fellas, 556 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: winning makes it easier that bickering that you heard that 557 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: two guys over there and the defense line was doing 558 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: before the other guy went away. It's hard to listen 559 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: to either one of those guys when you're losing because 560 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: he's trying to enforce his will and the other guy's 561 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 2: trying to enforce his will. And nine time out of ten, 562 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: the way this team was structured, the younger guy was 563 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: gonna win because time was not on the other guy's side. 564 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 2: So even though he may be saying some good stuff 565 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: by being responsible, being disciplined, they was not hearing it. 566 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 4: Can you win championships? 567 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 5: This probably translates to any sport, but football specifically without 568 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 5: multiple leaders. 569 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 6: Yes, you can. 570 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: The smaller the sport, the more accurate you are. In basketball, 571 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: it can be one of one or two guys. What 572 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: about football football, No, you need some dogs. You need 573 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: some dolls, and not ignorant dolls, not not rabbit dolls, 574 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: just dogs run around with rabies. You need some you 575 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: know it's hardcore, get out, strategic. Yeah, yeah, you need some. 576 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: You need some leaders. 577 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're gonna have Like Michael Irvin was our leader. 578 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 6: He was the guy. He could mix with anybody, no 579 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 6: matter who he was. 580 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 2: But Troy had this place and it was special. Emmett 581 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 2: had this place and they won. Everybody you know on defense, 582 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: it was Woody, it was denn it was Charles Hayley, 583 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: and now everybody can't be leaders. A lot of people 584 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: are chirping and you don't even hear them. Man gets 585 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: when sat. 586 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 8: Down, You were there when Urban came into the league. 587 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 8: How long did it take him to reach that? 588 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: Not long, man, not long, because when he went because 589 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: he had he was used to losing high school or college. 590 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 2: And his brother's on the sideline crying. I'm like, man, 591 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 2: bro I understand you crying. I said, well, we don't 592 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: have great players, you know, I said, we don't have 593 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: you know, I can't see how the forty nine ers 594 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: with Joe roll up in him. 595 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 6: I'm like, you see that right there, that just left him, Brock. 596 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 4: We gotta do something, you know, I can just lose it. 597 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 6: I'm like, okay. 598 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: And then when Jimmy came, he wrote that big long 599 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: list of guys. Hey, man, get rid of this guy this. Yeah, yeah, man, 600 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: Mike was the man that was the man. 601 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 4: And if you want to hear that story, you can 602 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 4: look at Jesse Holliod Michael Irving. He told that story. 603 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 6: Yeah he did, he did. Yeah, man, Jesse. 604 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 4: His story it's a great story. His old His whole 605 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 4: sit down was great. My second favorite. 606 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's your favorite list, bro, Really the list I'm 607 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: gonna rather list on the podcast. 608 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 4: Theate's still dominating. 609 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 6: Real, I'm gonna get. 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You get five 700 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 4: cents every single time regardless. 701 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 6: Okay, i'ma hit that. 702 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 5: I'm'm gonna start doing that, man, all right, So I 703 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 5: have a question as much as you if you know 704 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 5: for you and Jesse can. 705 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 4: I actually a personal but not personal question? 706 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 6: Okay, it's personal. Go ahead. 707 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 4: On do you you do you use a credit card 708 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 4: to get your gas? Like do you use a rewards 709 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,479 Speaker 4: credit card to get. 710 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 6: You It just all depends on where I'm man, how 711 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 6: much it costs, because. 712 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 4: You you, you would you would benefit greatly. You you 713 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 4: and miss Michelle would benefit greatly if you got a 714 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 4: reward like a points reward card that you just put 715 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 4: just gas gas. You got points back from the airline, 716 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 4: you know, one of the airlines. Who's Who's official airline 717 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 4: of the doast opposite American? American? 718 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 2: I got this, I got that card, I got that car. Yeah, 719 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: I need I use it a lot. 720 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, he doesn't get hotel points because he just sleeps 721 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 5: on the side of the road. 722 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 6: No, no, not no more. 723 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 2: That's too dangerous. The fastest hotel. But bro, I am 724 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: not step on the side of the road now, ain't real? 725 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 5: Man? 726 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 6: Please? 727 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 4: Good for you? Yeah he looks like an omni guy. 728 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, man, the money you know. 729 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: What, thanks to the Airbnb's. 730 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 6: Hotel prices are rapidly faulty. 731 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 5: It's a good so quickquestions for you guys, Jesse will 732 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 5: start with you. 733 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 6: Nate. 734 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 5: We kind of talked about your question on the show 735 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 5: last week, so I want to get your opinion out 736 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 5: that you're on the show. H Jalen Tobert said he's 737 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 5: excited about having pickings on board. And when you're a 738 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 5: guy that's in Jalen's situation, you know, you got a 739 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 5: guy that comes in and you were in the running 740 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 5: for number two slash three, and now all of a 741 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 5: sudden you've moved down one notch on the depth chart 742 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 5: like that. You gotta be happy for the team because 743 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 5: teams success is going to be better, But personally, in 744 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 5: the back of your mind, what does that do to 745 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 5: your mentality and your psyche as a as a especially 746 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 5: in the wide receiver room. You're happy for the team, 747 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 5: but you're kind of like, how do you feel. 748 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 4: Like what Jayln Tobert feels relieved? Okay, I was wondering. 749 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 4: Now explain he feels relieved. No pressure on it. 750 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 5: There's no more pressure now if he can go out, 751 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 5: ball out, and there's no downside, right. 752 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 8: Just worry about being a number two. 753 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 4: You're not to worry about being number two solid number three. 754 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 4: He's relieved. He's relieved because there was so much like 755 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 4: relieved in the sense that I'm not put in the 756 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 4: maybe category anymore because it was always CD and some maybees. 757 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 4: It was always CD and the others, those guys, those 758 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 4: guys and everybody myself included. Remember I had I had 759 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 4: agend Otober agenda right, and it was like number two, 760 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 4: number two, number two, number two, number two, step up, 761 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 4: here's your chance, number two, number two. And as much 762 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 4: as we want to push that, and I'm sure at 763 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 4: some point in time it may be still floating around 764 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 4: in Genitober's mind. It's the the want to of being 765 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 4: because it sounds good, right, It sounds nice being the 766 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 4: number two, you know what I mean? Like you know 767 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,479 Speaker 4: you you have to come to the realization is looking 768 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 4: yourself in the mirror and going, I ain't even better 769 00:37:54,480 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 4: than CD. Everybody likes a good old number two. I 770 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 4: think he's relieved. I think the pressure is now off 771 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 4: of him. He doesn't have to go out there and 772 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 4: live up to this third round pick and coming in 773 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 4: and being the guy. Now he can just come in. 774 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 4: He'll be an eleven personnel. He'll get the worst defender, 775 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 4: he'll get the worst defender in the secondary. Yeah, as 776 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 4: long as CD and longest as pick is on the field, 777 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 4: he's gonna get the worst defender in the secondary. 778 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 5: The easiest gotta beat on the field at that time 779 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 5: will be on him. 780 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 4: And he had seven touchdowns with when he was the 781 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 4: other guy. So hopefully that number can go up. Maybe 782 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 4: the numbers yardist wise probably doesn't go up, do you ever, 783 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 4: because we. 784 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 5: Know receivers are built different mentally, right, They're more flashy, 785 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 5: they're more look at me. 786 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 4: Okay, so there is let's let's let's let's put let's 787 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 4: put that, Let's put that in this in this proper context. 788 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 4: Let's put in this proper context. Yes, we have the 789 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 4: diva mentality that don't stay when you're not the guy. 790 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 4: When I was, when I was the starting receiver at 791 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 4: the University of North Carolina, was a diva. I was 792 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 4: a diva. You know why? I was the number one. 793 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 4: I was the one that the ball was coming to. 794 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 4: I was the one that they circled the I can 795 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 4: be a diva. When I became a Dallas cowboy and 796 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 4: I was just trying to make the team, Guess who 797 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 4: wasn't a diva? Guess who just get in when you 798 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 4: fit in? Guess who wanted to stay employed. So it 799 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 4: wasn't all that diva nonsense. It wasn't that you the 800 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 4: diva moniker and the diva title that don't sit with everybody. 801 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 4: That ain't an everybody title that that is a that 802 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 4: is relegated, separated, hung up for the guy CD can 803 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 4: be the diva. Maybe George Pickens finds his way to 804 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,919 Speaker 4: be a divay, no damn diva, don't think being ain't 805 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 4: no damn diva. Y'all better get it where y'all fit 806 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 4: in the cropper and and the rest of y'all diva 807 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 4: So that'll better be on the first bus y'all better 808 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 4: be at the stadium first. Y'all better be on practice 809 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 4: field first. Y'all better be first in, last out. Ain't 810 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 4: no damn divas. 811 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 5: That's exactly my question when you when you, I guess 812 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 5: morph into you know, when do you how long does 813 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 5: it take to set in? Because you always. 814 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 12: If you're if you have you know, I mean, but 815 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 12: it's a little different question that at this level everybody's 816 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 12: at alpha, right you you you were an. 817 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 5: Alpha getting different alpha, different levels of different When do 818 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 5: you when do you get comfortable with being a number three? 819 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 5: Because you always want to be one better than what 820 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 5: you are. Even when you're number one, you want to 821 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 5: be the number one and number one. 822 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 4: You know, do you ever get. 823 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 5: Comfortable mentally to be like, you know what, I'm a 824 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 5: number three, this is what I am and I'm gonna 825 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 5: do my best, or you always like I'm gonna keep 826 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 5: working until I'm number two? 827 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 4: Or is it just everybody's different, if there is real like, 828 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 4: let's see it any position, let's just chose, let's let's 829 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 4: use Gelingtober for that, because he was topic of discussion. 830 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 4: Right when you looked around and you were there was 831 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 4: there were there were chances. Right when you get drafted, 832 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 4: you look around the room and you're going, hey, they're 833 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 4: a CD and a bunch of other guys that are 834 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 4: like me. So my spirits are high, right, like I 835 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 4: have a chance. And then you go out there and 836 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 4: you're playing a little bit and you're going a tall task. 837 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 4: This ain't this, This ain't this easy, This ain't Alabama stake, 838 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 4: This ain't ain't what I thought it was right, and 839 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 4: then just kind of you know, you're working a little 840 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 4: hard and you get with Brandon Cooks and you see 841 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 4: some other guys and you're saying, okay, all right, let's 842 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 4: let's let's shoot at this thing again. There you go, 843 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 4: boy at eighty eight. Special can't do things that he does. 844 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 4: You know, we ran the same out route. Mine ended 845 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 4: of the twelve yard catch. He broke two tackles for 846 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 4: eighty yard touchdown. Consistently looked different. And then you start 847 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 4: looking around and you go, my brother, George Pickles, huh, 848 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 4: all right, well, I bet that's because number three spot 849 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 4: I better beat out the rest of these babies. I 850 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 4: better be the outphua of the number threes. That's where 851 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 4: I better be. But you look around the room and 852 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 4: you start saying, and then you also not that you 853 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 4: pocket watch. But you start understanding the business, and you're going, 854 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 4: he makes thirty, Yeah, he's cheaper than me. And then 855 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 4: he made thirty unless extra specialty. Unless I set myself 856 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 4: on fire and not get burned. If we're close to even, 857 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 4: I'm gone. We ain't even close. That that number takes 858 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 4: us out of the stratosphere. We ain't the clean close. 859 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 4: Let me start looking at somebody I'm more comparable to. 860 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 4: Now now I'm fending off the rest of these jokers 861 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 4: because I ain't getting there no more. 862 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 5: But you know, like that's what I'm I guess. My 863 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 5: question is do you you you know? 864 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 6: You know, you know, you know you know, And brock Coffin, 865 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 6: it don't take long. 866 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 4: Brock Coffin knows you. You had. 867 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 6: You a year the thing that that that comes reality. 868 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 4: Really I watched I would say about about a year 869 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 4: and a half. 870 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 6: I watched receivers. 871 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 2: Mike came in as the number one pick, and I 872 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 2: remember his growth. You knew it was something about Mike's 873 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 2: and he was special because when he came in, I 874 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 2: don't know who the receivers was, Mike like, throw me 875 00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 2: the ball. So evidently Mike saw what was out there 876 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 2: and knew now it's time for the coaches to catch 877 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 2: up and for Troy to catch up. So when Trus said, okay, 878 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 2: he throwing the ball and the next thing you know, 879 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 2: you see him and Mike working after practice. So now 880 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 2: Mike starting to get eighty percent of all the balls 881 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 2: or the position he played, trove was looked at him first, 882 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 2: see what his coverage is, and so it didn't take 883 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 2: Mike long. That may it took a year and a 884 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 2: half for him to beat Mike or Irving, but it 885 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 2: did not take him long. Well, it took Alvin Hopper 886 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 2: even to be the number two guy. It took him 887 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 2: a year to just feel his way through the league, 888 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 2: because not only are you looking at the guy that's 889 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 2: your number one, you're looking at who is covering you 890 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 2: each game, and each team do it different. Some people 891 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 2: will double that two and some people would will double 892 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 2: that one. It just depends on what they think is 893 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 2: best in their scheme. So that's why it may take 894 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 2: a little longer, because you gonna face weekend and we 895 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 2: got better players, you know, so some guys can get 896 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 2: it quick. 897 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 6: Some guys that take a minute. 898 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 4: When I came into the league, my first team in 899 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals, it took me a training camp to realize. 900 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 4: I saw Chad Johnson run around. I tried to run 901 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 4: around like he ran around, almost lost my leg. I said, oh, 902 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 4: that's different. How he turned like that full speed. And 903 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,959 Speaker 4: you realize at that time why he makes eight million 904 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 4: dollars a year. This is this is why who he is. 905 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 4: And then you start looking around and you start you know, 906 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 4: I get here and you look at a kid like 907 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 4: this who don't even didn't even tie his shoes sometimes 908 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 4: to go out there and practice with cleats ontied. Is 909 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 4: there a difference when you're you know, your. 910 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 5: Whole life has been about football or sports, right, and 911 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 5: you you've done it on the basketball field, in the 912 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,720 Speaker 5: football basketball court, football field. When you watch it on TV, 913 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 5: it's like, wow, that's special, But I. 914 00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 4: Can do that. 915 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 5: And then when you is it different when you're there 916 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 5: in person and you physically see it, Like so coming 917 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,879 Speaker 5: out of coming out of North Carolina and college, it's like, oh, 918 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 5: I can do that, maybe not at the highest level, 919 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 5: but I can do that. And then you get there 920 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 5: in person, is it like oh. 921 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 2: Yes, this is different because what you see because what 922 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 2: you see TV is two seconds slower than real life. 923 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 2: That's what hurts a lot of kids. They mamas and 924 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,439 Speaker 2: they dads. 925 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 6: And see that son, see that. 926 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 2: Even when you're watching a videos about to see that sun, 927 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 2: you can do that. 928 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're doing that on kids. 929 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 2: You twice as fast. But real life brings you to 930 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 2: real life, to reality real life. 931 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 6: Like when I watch the. 932 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,839 Speaker 2: Hockey game on TV, I'm like them good dudes, al right, 933 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 2: And then when I watch the hockey game live, I'm like, 934 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 2: I couldn't do this In the many years you real life, 935 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 2: when people can lay hands on you real life, it's 936 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 2: a different story. 937 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 6: And I tell people that you. 938 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 4: Look out there like that's why I always get to 939 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 4: like the tape argument fight type thing. People are like, oh, 940 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 4: pause it look he could have done that right there. 941 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 4: Come on, man, come on, hold on, he could have 942 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 4: done what you see that snarling three hundred pounds in 943 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 4: front of him. He didn't got hit by him three 944 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 4: times already today. And you you're gonna send me a 945 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 4: still shot about man, get out of my face because 946 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 4: you don't understand. Like, I don't know how to explain it, 947 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 4: but when you see people who are at sizes you 948 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 4: like them, big black man do things that are at 949 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,919 Speaker 4: a rate that they're not that humans should not be doing. 950 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 4: To that, you just sit back and you go. You 951 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 4: you're in awe, and to be in awe and be 952 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 4: in the group is all you need to know, Like 953 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 4: to to Kurt, you're a baseball guy, to watch baseball legends, 954 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,720 Speaker 4: hall of famers, be in awe of Barry Bond's batting. 955 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 4: Wait a second, you you're a Hall of famer and 956 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 4: you sit there in awe of another dude. That tells 957 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 4: me all I need to know about what that dude was. 958 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 4: If the Hall of Famer is like, let me tell 959 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 4: you something, that dude at the plate unreal and he's 960 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 4: on and that the one speaking is of another world, 961 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 4: that's when you know, like, that's when you're in the 962 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 4: number and you're looking at the other numbers and you're going, 963 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 4: that's unreal and I'm in the number. I'm up the 964 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 4: one percent. 965 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 5: I just wondered if it if it translates for athletes 966 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 5: watching TV, it's like, oh, yeah, he's good, But then 967 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 5: you get in person and it's like, oh wow, that's yeah. 968 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 4: You can watch it on film, and then yes, in 969 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 4: a person, it's like like you can watch it on filming. 970 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 4: And then until you have Reggie White put his hands 971 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 4: on you, you don't really understand how strong he is thrown brown, 972 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 4: you know, until you until you have to deal with 973 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 4: that type of yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yo, Okay, he 974 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 4: clocked you upside the head. You go, hold on. That 975 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 4: wasn't you know. 976 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 2: It's so funny and it just goes to show you 977 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 2: that when Michael Jordan did his documentary, you know, you 978 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,760 Speaker 2: had all of these people good batter and different saying things. 979 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,879 Speaker 2: Even players but one thing that was resting assure that 980 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,320 Speaker 2: one night when that first episode. 981 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 6: Came on the world everybody watching. 982 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 2: That's the Hall of Famous, non hall of famers, the 983 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 2: Warner Bees, the Cooler Bees, the should have Beens. And 984 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 2: I remember this dude, how good he was. Everybody was watching. 985 00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 2: And so that's that's what Jess is talking about. Man, Yeah, 986 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 2: that's what he's when you see real live If you 987 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 2: ever saw Jordan play real live basketball all Lebron in 988 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 2: his youthful days, just when they was real, when they 989 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 2: was pay you know, pay to go see him, and 990 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 2: you'll realize, like, this is different. So when you come 991 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 2: out of college and even though it's the kid, the 992 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,280 Speaker 2: kid that do supposed to be a great kid. 993 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 6: When he gets to the league, he gonna see what 994 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,240 Speaker 6: everybody else saw. These things up here is real. 995 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 4: Everybody like me. 996 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, what can I separate myself? 997 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, we got to get out of here. 998 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 5: We're late, Nate, I'm gonna save your question for next week. 999 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 2: Okay, if we're all here, and that's what we're coming 1000 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 2: to the end of this thing, right, this one a 1001 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 2: week isn't aren't we? 1002 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 4: Chris? A couple more weeks. 1003 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 6: Finale. 1004 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 2: Train to get right around the corner, and then we 1005 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 2: get to see these guys for real. 1006 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 6: I really got the rams. I'm an open camp. 1007 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 2: We'll get to see a real real for real all right, 1008 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 2: fellas can go a little bit fun. 1009 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 5: Yes see, Nate hurt. We all got back together again. Chris, 1010 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 5: thanks for keeping us on the air. Josh, thanks for 1011 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 5: keeping him saving Let me come. We will be back 1012 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 5: next week, same time, same place. 1013 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 6: We all. 1014 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1015 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.