1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Really previously on symptomatic. Trent Fielder, a successful and vibrant 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: insurance assessor, suddenly faced a life threatening battle out of nowhere. 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: He began losing feeling in his arms and legs. The 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: condition spread quickly, leaving him wheelchair bound with no sensation 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: below the waist. Things worsened rapidly when his lungs began 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: to fail, landing him in the ICU with a daunting diagnosis, 7 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: gyond Beret syndrome GBS, an autoimmune disorder that attacks the 8 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: nervous system. 9 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: I was overwhelmed. I could not get my heart to 10 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: slow down. The only things that I could think about 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: were the negative things. My focus was on what I lost. 12 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: You know, it was am I going to be able 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: to go back to what I used to do? Not 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: like this? But it was very much wrapped up in 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: the I can't do this anymore. 16 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: They said that this was progressive and that he wasn't 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: going to make it. How do you process that? 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Even though Trent stabilized enough to return home to his wife, 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: Nicole and their young twins, the doctors couldn't restore much 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: of the mobility or feeling he'd lost overnight, despite trying 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: every treatment protocol. Then out of nowhere, another flare struck, 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: landing him back in the er fighting for his life. 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: The pain was immense. The spasticity was just out of control. 24 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: The spasitos were so bad. At some point in my 25 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: neck my neck would try to snap itself. I couldn't 26 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: keep it in control. My jaw would pop. It was 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: very painful. So as the pain continued, the depression kicks in. 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: The beer kicks in. 29 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: With his symptoms lingering longer than expected, Trent received a 30 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: new diagnosis, Chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy CIDP, a progressive autoimmune 31 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: disease causing long term muscle weakness and fatigue. After exhausting 32 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: treatment options with little improvement to his mobility, Trent made 33 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: the tough decision to try a suggested spinal surgery, but 34 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: unfortunately the outcomes were more devastating than hopeful. 35 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: So in the surgery there were some decisions made by 36 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: the surgeon that went against protocol for what you would 37 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: do with that implant, and he ended up cutting into 38 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: my t ten vertebra. 39 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: How terrifying would it be to fight an unknown enemy, 40 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: one you didn't recognize and didn't see coming what if 41 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: that enemy was coming from within a disease that even 42 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: doctors couldn't identify. Nearly half of all Americans suffered from 43 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: some chronic illness, and many struggle for an accurate diagnosis. 44 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: These are their stories, and Lauren write the CHECKO and 45 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: this is symptomatic. Before we pick up with Trent's story, 46 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: a quick warning. This episode mentions thoughts of suicide. Please 47 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: proceed with care. Two years after Trent's symptoms first began, 48 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: he was dealing with the aftermath of a failed spinal 49 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: surgery meant to be a last ditch effort to restore 50 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: some mobility. Through the darkest moments, Trent drew strength from 51 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: his family, including his loyal service dog, Gunner, who never 52 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: left his side. With his t ten vertebrae severed, he 53 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: faced the risk of being paralyzed from the waist down forever. 54 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: It wasn't until January twenty third, two thousand four where 55 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: I realized just how bad of a mistake he had made. 56 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,559 Speaker 2: And that was when I ended up having two embolisms 57 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: back to back. And I was at home at the 58 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: time for the first one at least, but I realized 59 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: at the time I had a full breath in, and 60 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: with that full breath, I heard a calm, very peaceful 61 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: voice that said not yet. And immediately I became aware 62 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: of the fact that, Okay, I'm about to go through something, 63 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: but I'm not going to do it alone, and I'm 64 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: going to be okay. 65 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: Wow. 66 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: But I had a full breath then, and I realized 67 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: that that was my last breath. I've had the opportunity 68 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: to talk to people about what that last breath looks like. 69 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: And it was like seeing the world through a stained 70 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: glass window. It was absolutely remarkable. And when Nicole again 71 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: Nicole is stunningly gorgeous, but when she came in the 72 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: room for me to show her my phone, she was listening. 73 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: You know. It was kind of like seeing the ocean 74 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: off the sunrise. And so Nicole came in and I 75 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: had my phone and I'd put on there I cannot breathe, 76 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: Please stay call nine one one. She did two of 77 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: the three, the staying calm parts. She can't of skipped 78 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: that part. She went into full action. We had just 79 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: put the babies to bed, so she called nine one one. 80 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 3: I got like really nervous, and thank god, the ambulance 81 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,239 Speaker 3: had like a bogus phone call kind of nearby, because 82 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: they were at the house fairly quickly, and they got. 83 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: To us within two minutes. 84 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: Wow that I mean that in the voice that sounds 85 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: like divine intervention. 86 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, there were a lot of things that had to 87 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: happen and they can't all be circumstanced and for me 88 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: to be able to calmly get through that time. So 89 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 2: they got there right as I was finishing that last breath. 90 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 2: They gave me a shot of something in my neck 91 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: and then started taking me to the hospital. And at 92 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: that point Nicole broken down. So she came over to 93 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: the aim and you know, she sees tubes and everything else, 94 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: and it was more than she had ever seen before. 95 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: But I reached over and grabbed her hand and I said, 96 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: we're not going anywhere. It's going to be okay. I 97 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: was told it was going to be okay, So it's 98 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: gonna be okay. Then I got to the hospital and 99 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 2: the second one happened, and you flatlined a flat line, 100 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: and I wasn't gone very long. 101 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: Due to its inflammatory nature and the resulting lack of mobility, 102 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: CIDP presents a higher risk for blood clotting issues like embolisms. 103 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: After everything Trent had been through. He and his family 104 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: faced his most severe reaction yet, pushing him to the 105 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: edge of death. 106 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: And so I woke up being angry. I didn't really 107 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: know what I was angry at, but I wasn't angry 108 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: because of the condition. I wasn't angry at a doctor 109 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: or anything in particular. They put me in the ICU 110 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: and I was in there for a lot long time. 111 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: This is probably a few days into it. I was 112 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: down to about eighteen percent of my lungs. I could 113 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 2: really just barely breathe on my own. 114 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: That was kind of scary, and it's kind of like, well, 115 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: if you're a lung scamp function I can put two 116 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: or two together. That means you can't breathe, and then 117 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 3: if you can't breathe, you're not going to be living. 118 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: And there were these three doctors that came in. They 119 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: are the ones that looked me over while I was 120 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: in there, and they sat down and they said they 121 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: needed to talk to me, and you know, that's never 122 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: a good starting point to a conversation when it's a doctor. 123 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: And they said, there's not anything more that we can 124 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: do for you. So there's nothing more we can do 125 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: to reverse the effects, sort of make this better. So 126 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: they had come to a conclusion that they were going 127 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: to send me home and that they would set me 128 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: up on hospice at home. 129 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: His doctors were all telling him that he was going 130 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: to die. What kind of patient wants to hear that? 131 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: That's crazy and nobody can predict the future, and he 132 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: was like, I have too much to live for. He's 133 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: just like, get on board or get out of here. 134 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: Being sent home for hospice, Trent refused to accept that 135 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: this was the end of his fate. However, having deteriorated 136 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: so much physically, proving the doctor's wrong would not come 137 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: without its challenges. So on top of all the health issues, 138 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: what was your greatest fear at that point? 139 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: That he would have killed himself and then I would 140 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: like walk into a body in blood on the floor. 141 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: That crazy, but yeah, I've thought of that once and twice. 142 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: My doctor was right. I was not prepared for the 143 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 2: flood of emotions, and you know, it was like seeing 144 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: the events that had happened to me, like America around 145 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: It was just and I couldn't make it stop. And 146 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: so there were times when the emotions were really too 147 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: overwhelming and there was one particular time where I'd considered 148 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: an almost carried out, taking my own life back home. 149 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: Trent sank into the depths of his desperation, but it 150 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: would be his faithful service dog, Gunner, who would prove 151 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: that there was a reason for hope. 152 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: I planned it enough out where no family was going 153 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: to be around, nobody was going to be around me. 154 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: I'd be able to just cut the story short. Essentially, 155 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: there was a gun that was next to me and 156 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: a bag, and I reached over to grab the gun 157 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 2: and it wasn't there anymore. And I looked back and 158 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: Gunner had He had jumped up on the bed where 159 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: I couldn't hear him, and he had crawled to it 160 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: and took it away. And I looked right at him, 161 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: and he had it in his mouth. There was no 162 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: risk or anything to him, but he never lost eye 163 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 2: contact with me. He constantly looked at me while he 164 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: had this in there. His tail was not wagging. It 165 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: wasn't a game to him. He knew that this didn't fit. 166 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: So I tried to reach back further for him, and 167 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: he took steps back. And I tried to reach further back, 168 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: and he'd take steps back but never lost that contact. 169 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: He just kept backing up. And I eventually reached a 170 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: point where I was just exhausted mentally and physically, and 171 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: I just fell down to the ground. And at that 172 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: point I was crying, and he knew that that was 173 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: what needed to happen, and he came up to me 174 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: and nestled up against me, and he never left me. 175 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: They just stayed right there. 176 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:47,359 Speaker 1: What a beautiful story. Trend's condition had reached its lowest point, 177 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: with his lung capacity now at life threatening levels and 178 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: no treatment options left to counter the degeneration. He knew 179 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: he needed a fresh perspective from a new medical team. 180 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: If things were going to get better, it would be 181 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: up to him to dig deep and find a strength 182 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: he hadn't found before. 183 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: I think that the anger of allowing a disease to 184 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: take control of my mindset, to take control of my heart, 185 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 2: my future as a husband, as a father, as a 186 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: friend of a son, that was where I was like, 187 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: I've allowed it to control me for too long, and 188 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: so that has to stop. 189 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with Symptomatic, a Medical Mystery Podcast. 190 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: Now back to Symptomatic a Medical Mystery Podcast. Trent had 191 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: followed all the doctor's orders, trying every possible medicine and 192 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: physical therapy approach, but only seeing temporary relief and minor 193 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: recovery from his pain and partial paralysis. After a failed 194 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: spinal surgery and two embolisms that caused him to flatline, 195 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: Trent still refused to accept defeat and was determined to 196 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: find a path to recovery. This turning point started with 197 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: the guidance and support of his mother's primary care physician, 198 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: who helped carve out a possible treatment plan, paving the 199 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: way for a different approach to physical therapy. 200 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: She is an incredible woman. She is an amazing heart, 201 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 2: a giving person. She has gone far and above what 202 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: I thought any other doctor would do to help me. 203 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 2: She's coordinated my care. You know, she's kept the other 204 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: doctors honest, I guess, is what I would say. So 205 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 2: she's kept him in line to make sure that everybody 206 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 2: is talking and on the same page about my care. 207 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: When you think of an advocate patient advocate, she is 208 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: absolutely at the top of the list of the best 209 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: ones out there, and that never so that's exactly who 210 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: she is and who she'll always be. It is just 211 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: it's just her heart. 212 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: First on Trend's list was rebuilding his lung capacity. To 213 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: do that, he turned to an unexpected life saving tool music. 214 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: It helped him retrain his lungs and find his breathing rhythm. 215 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: It also gave him a way to block out everything 216 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: else going on around him. 217 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: Music had always been very important to me and helped 218 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: me get through some difficult times in my life. And 219 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: I realized that I can use that music to retrain 220 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: my lungs on a gradual basis to make them stronger. 221 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: So you decided, I'm not accepting this and that's not 222 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: the way it's going to be. I'm going to train 223 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: myself to breathe again. I'm going to train myself period. 224 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: So what does that process look like and what kind 225 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: of advances do you start seeing? 226 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: As I grew stronger in that, I was developing these 227 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: kind of mental programming to find out the best ways 228 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: to rehabilitate what I could rehabilitate my side, what I 229 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 2: had control over, whether I thought about it at the time, 230 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 2: I was empowering myself to improve and take control again 231 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: of the situation that was completely spiraling out of control. 232 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: So I focused on that. So the pain is still 233 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: there by using the music to guide my way through 234 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: the pain, to breathe and to cope and function at 235 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: a higher level. 236 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: Trent worked diligently to increase his lung capacity to thirty 237 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: one percent, a significant step forward, but he didn't stop there. 238 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: He was already focusing on his next physical therapy goal, 239 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: setting the bar even higher. That mindset of always pushing 240 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: for more has been a constant in his recovery. 241 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: Decision that I wanted to go beyond just functioning. I 242 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: wanted to excel and how am I going to do 243 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: that with a body that's attacking itself. I'm fortunate that 244 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: I follow kind of both sides of the traditional medicine 245 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: has been very supportive, but I push it to its 246 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: limits with what I do. Because I decided to go 247 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: through a program which is the Adaptive Training Foundation, and 248 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: I was invited to be a part of their class 249 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: with a number of people that are a lot of 250 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: wounded vets and first responders, people that have had traumatic 251 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,479 Speaker 2: injuries that they've gone through or been born with certain conditions. 252 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: And it was such an incredible blessing to be given 253 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: that opportunity. 254 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 3: After he went to ATF, because you know, he had 255 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 3: friends but he didn't really have like a good set 256 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: of people around him and stuff, and so he calls 257 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: them his tribe and they have like a whole big 258 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: tribe mentality of this is your people, we got your back, 259 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 3: and so that was really the turning point for him. 260 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: At the Adoptive Training Foundation or atf Trent found a 261 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: supportive community of people facing similar challenges and working through 262 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: their own recoveries. It was there he met his new trainer, 263 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: Sean Fitzmorris, who would play a crucial role in helping 264 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: him take the next steps in his recovery. 265 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 4: A lot of doctors, they are dealers of reality and 266 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 4: what science has shown them, our studies have shown them, 267 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 4: and they just rely on those soul things. And I 268 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: think that doctors do not want to be responsible for 269 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: if they were to say, hey, yes you'll walk again, 270 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: or hey, yes you're going to get this back and 271 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: you're going to be able to do these things in life, 272 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 4: because I don't think they want to over promise things 273 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: to them, you know. I think they want to be 274 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 4: as real as possible, which I think it can work 275 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 4: both ways, right, So they need to face the reality 276 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 4: and really looking in the eye and say this is 277 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 4: my truth right now. But my thing is that your 278 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 4: truth in a moment, maybe at that time, but it's 279 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 4: not your truth for your entire future. You're going to 280 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 4: create your own path, You're going to create your own truth. 281 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 4: You're going to create your own destiny with your own 282 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 4: unique abilities. 283 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: We all meet people that are able to bring things 284 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: out in us and help show things in us that 285 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 2: make us stronger. Jean, he has that ability to bring 286 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: things out on you in the moment when you need 287 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: it most, when you're about ready to quit, right when 288 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: you're exhausted and think you can't do one more thing, 289 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: Sean finds a way to get under your skin so 290 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: that you're going to persevere through it. 291 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: Still paralyzed from the waist down, Trent had been searching 292 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: for someone to help him believe there was more to 293 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: his life and mobility than what he'd come to accept 294 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: over the past few years. Sean stepped in and began 295 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: showing him the possibilities, but they both knew they had 296 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: to start with the small things first. Did he have 297 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: any specific goal or did you you have an initial 298 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: goal for him when you first started to work together. 299 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: Well, his goal he wanted to walk. 300 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: He had had some sea braces made that provided like 301 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: an electrical impulse when he walked, to get that feedback 302 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 4: through his legs. But he wanted to be able to 303 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 4: walk without the braces. And the thing is with the 304 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: braces too, it creates atrophies. So then those muscles really 305 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 4: aren't firing on their own. You know, they've got so 306 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 4: much stability and support from the braces that they can't 307 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 4: do the job they need to do. 308 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: So the brace has become a crutch. 309 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 4: Literally, they become a crutch. 310 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: Literally. 311 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: He was like a baby deer, but even like a 312 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 4: baby deer in a frozen pond, and we stayed very 313 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 4: very close to him. He was just the fear of following. 314 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 4: His legs were super atropheed but also super weak. They 315 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 4: weren't stable. But we started with foundational movements, a lot 316 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 4: of things. You know, you can't just go right from 317 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 4: being in a wheelchair to now, let's stand up and walk. 318 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 4: There's so many more things we had to work on, 319 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 4: just ground based stuff, you know, getting them all fours, 320 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 4: getting even quadruped, working on his core, working on a 321 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 4: lot of the small things, working on crawling, working on balance. 322 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 4: A lot of times people get so focused on the 323 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 4: end goal, and they get frustrated with the small things 324 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 4: we need to do along the way to get them there. 325 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: More than five years after his sudden paralysis, Trent finally 326 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: found a like minded community and an approach that began 327 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: to show real progress. By shifting his mindset beyond his 328 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: original prognosis and finding the right support system to guide 329 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: his training, he was determined to meet his goal of 330 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: walking again. 331 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 2: We figured out how to get me up on my 332 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: feet and doing it very unconventionally with golf balls, PBC, 333 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: pipe and cape. We kind of out scienced the science 334 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 2: because I couldn't feel my legs. It's like, okay, well 335 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: your legs are basically shock ofs orbers for your spine, 336 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: and so I needed to find a way to take 337 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: how the shot dissipates, and I needed not to dissipate. 338 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 2: I needed to go up to my hips where I 339 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 2: could feel. We're just trapping all this stuff together. I mean, 340 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: it was kind of a guyver for rehabilitation. 341 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 3: So they're kind of like bracing him and then he 342 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: asks like crutches, and I'm just walking home, kind of 343 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 3: amazed that he's using the crutches. He's upright, he's walking forward. 344 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: I was taking not big steps, smaller steps, but I 345 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: was making sure that my feet would pound on the 346 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 2: ground as best I could. But I could feel my hips. 347 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: It's like a pattern, and I could follow. And I 348 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: reached the end of the street and then turned around 349 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: and Fitz was there, and Ari was one of my 350 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 2: other trainers. Since she was there, I can't hear anything 351 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: that they're saying because I have the headphones on and 352 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: the music going. I have no concept of how loud 353 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: I am. And as we start going back, I was 354 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: just like, you know what, I'm gonna fall. I'm gonna fall. 355 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: So I dropped one of. 356 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 3: The crutches and then he like, he goes ahead and 357 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 3: he drops the other crutch and just kind of like, 358 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 3: what is this guy doing? 359 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 2: So again, I can't feel my legs. I've got no 360 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 2: appropriate perception, so I have to look down. I have 361 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: to look at my legs, and that's what I was doing. 362 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: And there, I guess it is screaming at me essentially 363 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 2: in the background, and I can't hear anything. 364 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 3: And then he pushes his trainers away and then he 365 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 3: freaking takes steps and walks towards me and gives me 366 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: a great big hug. You know, Like I said, he 367 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 3: is one determined son of a gun. Do you tell 368 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 3: him now, He's going to be like, oh yeah, you 369 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 3: just wait. 370 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 2: And I think it was probably another twelve or thirteen 371 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 2: steps before I realized and I looked at him. Shawn's 372 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: just right there. 373 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 4: And you know, it's kind of like forced up when 374 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 4: he starts running. His braces are flat off. 375 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: And he just said, you're doing it, man, You're doing it. 376 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: You're doing it. And I read his lips and I 377 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: looked at it and I just fell apart. I just collapsed, 378 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 2: and he caught me and I'd done it, and there 379 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: were people well to celebrate the whole thing. I just cried. 380 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 4: It was a very emotional moment looking on and it's 381 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 4: still you get the happy tears going when you see it. 382 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 4: It was a powerful moment and it's just a huge 383 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: milestone for him to reach on that day. 384 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, five years, ten months, twenty five days, and 385 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: five and a half hours, I'm never going to forget 386 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: that minute. 387 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: You talked about he had lost his purpose for a 388 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: period of time, and you'd said that life for a 389 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: while was kind of like a shit show, and so 390 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: would you say that once he found atf he found 391 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: a new purpose. 392 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: I think I think he was surrounded by a lot 393 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: of people who encouraged him. And it's so easy to 394 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: say you can't do this, or you won't do this, 395 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: or this is never going to happen, and it's like, 396 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: if you hear it so often, even if it's not 397 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 3: the truth, that becomes the truth. So when you have 398 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: people speaking positivity into your life, saying, hey, it doesn't 399 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 3: matter X, Y or Z, you can do this, you 400 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 3: can fight, you can push. 401 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 5: So I just think that was just a really. 402 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: Good group of people to continually speak positivity and to 403 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 3: kind of get him in the right mindset to make 404 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 3: positive changes and believe in himself and keep on going 405 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 3: from there. 406 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: In typical Trent fashion, just walking wasn't enough. With a 407 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: renewed sense of hope, he set his sights on an 408 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: even bigger goal, completing a half iron Man. While his 409 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: training team suggested waiting twelve to eighteen months, Trent had 410 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: other plans. He signed up for the first race he 411 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: could find just a few months away. So, for those 412 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: not familiar, tell me what a half iron man intail? 413 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: Else, half iron man is a seventy point three mile distance, 414 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: which is one point two miles swim, it's a fifty 415 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: six mile bike, and then a thirteen point one mile run, 416 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: or in my case at the time, it was a 417 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: racing chair. That makes up for the fact because I 418 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: couldn't run, and I did pretty well in the swim. 419 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: On the bike, I was seventeen miles in. It's a 420 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 2: very interesting picture contrast at miles sixteen, I'm like on 421 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 2: top of the world. Mile seventeen you could see it 422 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: runt in my face because I had actually torn both 423 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 2: my rotator cuffs and. 424 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: Biceps before you even get to the running chair. 425 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 2: Right before I give the runna chair, before I was 426 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: even a third of the way through the bike. 427 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: How did you keep going? 428 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: I think one of the most important things of life, 429 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: in this case, certainly, but in every case, is to 430 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: know your why. And when you know your why in life, 431 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 2: then you really become a force of nature. You can 432 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 2: be unstoppable. And I knew why I was there. There 433 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: was no way that I could quit, no matter how 434 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 2: much it hurt, because the bike is a hand cycle, 435 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: so I'm using my arms the whole time. But I 436 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 2: had to be able to keep going because I was 437 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 2: doing it for Hope. I made it to the very end, 438 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: about point two miles out, and that was when I 439 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: felt the calling. And it was when I heard the 440 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 2: voice was the rise and walk. I'm like, oh, I 441 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: was like, are you sure, God, because I could just 442 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: coast him. But I ended up getting up. I gets 443 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 2: some help and I was able to not just walk 444 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: across the finish line. I had a small jog. 445 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 3: He said he heard God tell him get up, and 446 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: so he physically got up out of that thing, and 447 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 3: then he ended up walking and then running the last 448 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 3: like tenth of a mile. 449 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: And I did it. I had my headphones on, I 450 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: was looking straight down the whole time. I collapsed as 451 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 2: soon as I got across the finish. 452 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 5: Line, and everybody was like what this paralyzed too. 453 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: Just got up and ran across the finish line and 454 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 3: my dad caught him and our friend Adam, and it 455 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: was pretty amazing. 456 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 5: And then in the video and Abia's like, go. 457 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 3: Daddy go, go Daddy go, and. 458 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: It started something. People were videoing it and posting it 459 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: and sharing it because they just couldn't believe what they 460 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: were seeing. And probably about thirty five forty minutes from 461 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 2: the time I got my medal to getting to the car. 462 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: By the time I got to the car, I had 463 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: almost eleven hundred messages on Facebook, and I had probably 464 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 2: about half that in friend requests, and the majority of 465 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 2: them being vets and first responders and people just needing hope. 466 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: And it just continued to grow. And that's how I 467 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: spent the last years doing what I'm doing, never doing 468 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: it for myself. This can't ever be about me. If 469 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 2: it is, i'd find a reason to quit. And the 470 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: mission has always been hope. So I've done half iron Man, 471 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: iron Man, I've done USA Triathlon, I've won national championships 472 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: that way. 473 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: Trent has since completed multiple endurance events, including representing Team 474 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: USA as the only para athlete in last Summer's Triathlon 475 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: World Championships in Australia. He doesn't push himself for accolades 476 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: or medals which he gives away to others. He does 477 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: it to physically pass on his message of hope wherever 478 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: he goes. His loving kids, Logan and Nevayah understand this 479 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: more than anyone. Why is your dad different from other dads? 480 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 6: He has been paralyzed from the waist down for a 481 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 6: long time, and that he wants to give people hope 482 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 6: and he runs iron Man's and gives his metals away 483 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 6: to other people. 484 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: What are you most proud of when you think of 485 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: your dad? 486 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 7: Probably him being able to do all these things while 487 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 7: having treatments and surgeries and taking care of stuff around 488 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 7: the house as well, like being able to do iron 489 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 7: mans and all these races, and like still being able 490 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 7: to be there for us, like as a dad. You know, 491 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 7: him being able to walk after people told him he 492 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 7: wouldn't be able to is like probably the most aspiring thing. 493 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: And Nicole, what do you hope people take away from 494 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: hearing Trent's story? 495 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 3: Hopelessness is such a disease, and it's kind of like, 496 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 3: if you don't have hope, what do you have? Whatever 497 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 3: the situation is, there's always light at the end of 498 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: the tunnel, regardless of how dark it may seem. 499 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 2: Now, if people can understand that, there are going to 500 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 2: be moments in our life that generate suffering, but the 501 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: question is what do we do with it? What are 502 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: we able to do with it? If it's too difficult 503 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: or it feels too overbearing to make a change in 504 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: our life, then do it a different way by making 505 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: a change in somebody else's, by impacting somebody else's. And 506 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: I could have never imagined the things that have occurred 507 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: with me. I mean, how can I imagine going from 508 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: the guy to flatlines on a table to a go 509 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: medalist in ten years? And people constantly they'll ask you, Rocker, 510 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: what did it feel like to hold the metal? I'm like, 511 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: the metal is not the message. Help is the message. 512 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: And I think that's what I would like people to 513 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: best understand, whether it's through this podcast or through my life, 514 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: is that no matter what, and no matter how long 515 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: of a road that it took, I chose hope, and 516 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: I choose that for everybody. 517 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: Always looking to pay it forward. Trent gave his gold 518 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: medal from this Summer's Triathlon World Championships to his wife, Nicole, 519 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: who has been his steadfast supporter from the beginning. You 520 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: can also be a part of his message of hope 521 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: and keep up with his next adventure at Trentfielder dot com. 522 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: Special thanks to Chive Charities for the work they do 523 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: with veterans and those living with rare diseases and the 524 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: impact they've had on Trent's story. If you know someone 525 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: who might benefit from hearing his story or other stories 526 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: in this season of Symptomatic, we encourage you to share 527 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: it with them. And knowing that health struggles can often 528 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: be a marathon instead of a sprint, if you want 529 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: to help others cross the finish line, consider paying it 530 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: forward like Trent has by donating to his nonprofit at 531 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: Trhope dot org. That's trii Hope dot org or Chive 532 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: Charities at chive Charities dot org. 533 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: My name is Trent Fielder. I was diagnosed with Giambore 534 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: syndrome in twenty eleven and in twenty twelve I was 535 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: diagnosed with chronic inflammatory demolinating polyueropathy. I went from flat 536 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: lining on an emergency room table to eventually working to 537 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: train myself how to breathe, how to walk. Eventually took 538 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 2: on a mission to compete, and that competition led me 539 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: from flat line to finish line. And that finish line 540 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: was gold medal at the World Championships this past year 541 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: with Team USA. 542 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: As we close out the season of Symptomatic, we want 543 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: to take a moment and say thank you to all 544 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: our dedicated listeners. We've had the privilege of telling some 545 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: very special stories this year, from a doctor turned rare 546 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: disease patient and cutting edge cancer care to every story 547 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: of determination this season. It's been so heartwarming seeing your 548 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: reactions and humbling being able to share your stories. So 549 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: if you have a medical mystery, don't hesitate to reach 550 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: out to us. It's Symptomatic at iHeartMedia dot com and now, 551 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: for the first time, you can also leave us a 552 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: voicemail by using the link at the end of the 553 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: show notes who knows you or someone you know could 554 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: be at the center of the next episode or spark 555 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: thoughtful conversation in an upcoming house calls. Until next time, 556 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: be Well. Symptomatic is a production of Ruby Studio from iHeartMedia. 557 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: Our show is hosted by me Lauren breg Pacheco. Executive 558 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: producers are Matt Rema and myself. Our EP of Post 559 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: production is James Foster. 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