WEBVTT - 9021One on One: Rachel True 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:11.040 It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. You guys, we 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:14.640 are here today with another nine oh two one on one. 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:19.440 We're talking with Jan Miler. I mean that's who she played. 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:23.440 Of course, I'm Beverly Hills nine one. The one and only. 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:27.080 Rachel True is going to be with us. Super excited. 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:33.200 Rachel Hi, Oh my goodness, Rachel True is here. Thank 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.159 you for coming on. Listen. Thank both of you for 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:38.760 inviting me. I've not gotten to meet you, Jenny I 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:40.920 think before, and Tori you probably don't remember, but I 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.599 met you so briefly at Sundance I think, yes, I 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:48.160 feel like I met you through Kathleen Robertson. Yes, yes, yes, 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.440 So anyway, anyway, I really appreciate the invite on and 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.880 I love your podcast and it's fabulous to be honest, 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:58.760 So thank you, thank you. Oh my gosh, Well we're 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:01.600 excited to have you here today. You played Jan Miler. 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:06.440 I'm Beverly Hills nine two and two episodes Minnesota College 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:10.039 with Brenda. Tell us how it happened. How did you 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:14.000 get the role of m Listen. Like everyone at that time, 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:15.600 we were like, oh my god, I want to be 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.840 on nine O two one h right, like you guys 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:20.480 were on it, but the rest of us were like, 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:22.840 we really want to be on that show. So it 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.000 was not a huge role, but I was like, I 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.760 want to do it, you know, um And it was 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:32.279 more than one episode. And let's be real, there weren't 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.920 so many black people on your show besides Bibica, so 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.440 so I very much wanted to be on the show 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:44.800 for many reasons. Um. And I was lucky enough Tori 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:46.800 to have read for your dead for another show, and 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.600 he was really kind. I think he liked my PATOI 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:53.240 I think I think you know, back then in the nineties, right, 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.360 everyone was much more black people. We want to urban 0:01:56.440 --> 0:02:01.640 it up. That's all I ever heard was Brban Rachel really, yeah, 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.920 you don't know, how said. I cannot believe that was 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.440 okay for them to say, do not know? But right 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.040 before a test they'd be like, that's great, but's sassier, 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.240 more urban, right, And I was like, I don't know 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:15.720 what you mean. This is literally the patois of my voice. Um. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.840 So to be able to audition for a show like 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.320 nine O two and no and just speak in like 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:26.520 the weird California vernacular, I already seemed to possess was 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.799 really fun for an actor at that time because as 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.800 a black actor, listen, there's always a room and a 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.920 place for more urban roles and things, of course, but 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.600 at that time I went out of my way to 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:44.520 show people that we were a multitude, and we spoke 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.000 many different ways and we looked many different ways. So 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.799 that's why I always wore my hair curly, because all 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.360 the black girls were forced into wigs or wanted to, 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.480 and I just thought, let's show them what what it's like. 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:58.840 And then the other thing that's funny about that is 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:00.440 I was told a lot when I was younger, like 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:04.400 you're too contemporary looking for like a period piece, And 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.360 I was like, you don't think the plantations were full 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:11.040 of little mixed curly hair girls who looked exactly like me. 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:15.320 You know, So again back to nine or two, when 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.600 it was a real cool and a boon to be 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:21.480 able to book a job on that show, and so 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.720 you auditioned for it? Just did I feel like I 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.000 did audition? I don't think I was just offered it. 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.399 Did you audition for any other roles? Like We've talked 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.000 to a lot of people who said I audition for 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:32.840 so many roles, and this is the one that ended 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.960 up happening. I had only auditioned for one other role 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.640 for I remember she was blind, That's what I remember. 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:44.480 And and James Jason was the director because I think 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.760 he was in on that session. I did not book it. 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.600 Did a better job? Did the woman? Did the character 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.040 that was blind have like a relationship with Brandon? With Jason? 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.720 I can't remember, but I know it was like a 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:01.760 big part. So it was like, you know, one that 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:03.520 all the actors wanted. I don't even know if it 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.720 went to someone black, to be honest um, although probably 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.600 because back then it wasn't really you didn't really bring 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.520 everyone in for anything. It was always very specific. Was 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.080 that before you did this role that you auditioned for 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.000 the other one or after? Yeah, I had auditioned for 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:20.039 the other one before this, And because it was a 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.680 bigger role and on such a cool show, of course 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.040 I was devastated when I didn't get it. I don't 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:28.279 know about YouTube, but I always took the nose harder 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.360 than I should have. My gosh, racial rejection is so hard. 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:35.080 People have no idea how many times you get rejected 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.520 in this business, and how many times you have to 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:41.240 bounce back from that. Well, yeah, I was saying to like, 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:46.359 my anxiety levels were always sky high day because you 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.160 were Okay, you're here, but no, you're leaving tomorrow, or 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.320 you have an audition right now, and you know, it's 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.800 really hard on the nervous system, which I think people 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.200 don't understand about acting. They just think, oh, it's so 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:01.359 easy and fun, and in days in Lewensio World especially, 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:05.200 I think they don't understand the rigorous work YouTube did 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:08.320 on that show because I was on later on in 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.760 the auds. I was on a sitcom and I love 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:13.080 that because I was like, oh, I'm in it ten 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.080 and I'm done by three thirty. And I have loved 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.520 that world too. I have every fourth week off schedule, 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:24.240 I compared to the drama because you guys worked long hours, 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:29.080 right like five days a week, yeah, sixteen days, and 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:34.280 you didn't get your fourth week off. I do have 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.039 one story that I want to tell about my brief 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:41.680 time please who knows so, but it's I'm gonna talent. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.240 It involves Shannon Right, who I worked with, and she's 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.760 lovely but sue to the non actor. It might sound terrible, 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.960 but it's not you're gonna understand as actors. Just so 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.480 we're in the rooms, you know, we're waiting, and I 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:56.680 heard them knock on Shannon's store and she was like, 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.000 I'll be right there right and literally they don't even 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:01.920 wait like two minutes and they knock it and they're 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:03.560 like a lot of calm right now, and the A 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:07.960 D was kind of stride it right, I'm scared about 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.839 I'm like, my fingertips are going them, okay, go on. 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:15.880 So so they're knocking it and they knocked right away, 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.200 like thirty seconds later, like yeah, we need you right now, 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.719 and she literally yells back, I'm putting in a tampon. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:27.880 And I as an actor, I respect that though I 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:33.479 did not see that coming. But no, that was brilliant 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:38.560 in the moment. I was like, because I listen as again, 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:40.440 I don't it's not all about race. But as a 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.200 black actor, I was constantly told you will be fired 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:44.839 for the same thing as these white girls do. You 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.600 will be fine, like literally told that job after job. 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.520 So I heard that and I was like, oh, what 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:53.720 I ever say or anything? And I'm like, you know, 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:55.840 cut two years later on my own show, and I'm 0:06:55.880 --> 0:07:03.600 like I'm keeping just let peace pay to say Shannon wasn't. 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.559 It wasn't like to the non actor that might sound ready, 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:10.320 it's not. It's someone literally saying, I am coming. I 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.320 love my job, I will be there, I will be 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.400 out this door as soon as I am done. So 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.920 I actually get where she was coming from. So you 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:21.800 guys had a good time on the set, do you remember, 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:26.560 like what the but it was like it was fun 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:28.880 all but you know, like here's the thing. And the 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.480 other thing non actress don't understand is how awkward it 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.360 is to come in as a guest cost You're walking 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:38.360 into a well oiled machine and everybody's used to everybody's 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:42.400 personalities and everything like that. So I don't like I 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.560 did a movie years later with Shannon super friendly. I 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.280 don't think she was super friendly when we did that 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:50.880 scene together. I don't you know what I mean, like 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.560 because that was kind of like her not having a 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:58.040 good time scenes though. Did they film It was like 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.200 all the same place and they filmed both episodes. It's 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.720 backed back to get those done. I feel like they 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.400 did film both like it might have been over two days. 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.600 It wasn't just like it was all within like a 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:13.240 very yeah. Yeah, yeah, so again I was really happy 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:18.200 to be there, like I'm Minnesota, I'm her, And then 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.600 like every actor, I'm like, maybe she'll stay in Minnesota, 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:22.800 and you're like, Rachel, the show is called nine two, 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:29.680 she's not staying in saying she wasn't like unfriendly. She 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.440 was probably this stay honestly the same way I got 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.720 when when you were on a show, and you guys 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:36.760 know this I'm saying was for the audience. Like I 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.320 was number one on the call sheet of my sitcom. 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.640 I was in every scene. I was tired, you know, 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:44.400 even though it's a fun, silly job, so you're not 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:48.720 actually as over to everyone who comes in because you 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:52.640 have to save your energy for your performance. So you know, 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.640 I get that, but I haven't. I should. I should 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.520 work on that. Then I need to work on saving 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:03.439 my energy for your perform Yeah, because I go no, no, 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.200 I have this weird thing ever since I was young, 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.760 that it goes back to n to that I thought 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:12.079 like everyone would be like, oh, Tori Spelling, producer's daughter, 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.800 She's gonna be horrible, she's gonna be entitled. So even 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.480 I could be having the worst day ever or something 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:20.920 horrible is going on, and I'm just like, I'll be like, hi, 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.320 how are you, and like hugging grain, like I just 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.000 go too much on you because I'm just like a 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:29.880 gonna take you to train that out in your real life. Wait, 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:33.199 what do you mean? I'm saying, like, because I find 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.720 if we are like okay, because I can't imagine the pressure, 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.839 by the way, Tori of having that on my back. Right, 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:41.800 It's hard enough as an actor to be like do 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.400 you like me? Do you think I'm good? But later 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.920 in it's your dad, and of course you're gonna feel 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.720 like people are judging you and like you get one, 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.360 and then I've got to prove myself right, So you 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.760 end up being extra accommodating to a certain extent. And 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.720 so I'm saying, and sometimes I can cross into real 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:02.440 life and we can be over accommodating to our friends 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.000 instead of setting boundaries, you know what I mean. Yes, 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.320 I have not learned to do that yet, but there's 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.280 always hope. We're all working on it. I mean, I'm 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.760 gonna say, like the nice thing about being one of 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.280 the nice things, right, because being a grown up isn't 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:20.880 all terrible. I think it's kind of great. That, like, 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:24.040 as an adult, I feel much more comfortable with myself, 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:28.120 with my choices, what I do, saying yes, saying no 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.280 and being okay with that rather than if I say no, 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.280 they're not gonna like me. Like now, I don't give up. 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.880 So very helpful and I care. I want I like 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.160 people and I want them to like me back. But 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.400 I also think some of the bending over that we 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.560 I did myself when I was younger, I realized I 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.640 got sort of taken advantage of, maybe on jobs, and 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:51.800 you know, I wasn't treated as well because she's the 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:56.360 easy one. M Yeah, I was just writing about that 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.360 so funny. I was just writing about that my journal, 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.440 about like how that's the person that I used to 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:05.800 be so much more needy and like super like super 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:10.079 sensitive and I needed affirmation from other people and now 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:11.960 I just at at this point in my life, I 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.360 just don't need that. I need the love and respect 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.760 of the people that are most important to me, but 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.959 the other people I don't care. Well, I think that's 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.760 why I'm talking about it too, because chances are I'm 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.440 definitely older, probably I'm sure than both of you, and 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.680 it took me a really no chance, no chance now 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.240 I am, but it took me a really long time. 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:37.079 That thatsonality we have on set, which is our personality, right, 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:39.120 it's our true who we are, But there's also a 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.080 little bit of a mask on there. Is we all 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.600 carry a mask all the time through life, right, and 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.000 then there's set mask, which is a little different than 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:50.120 our day to day mask. And I find as an adult, 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.840 I'm willing to look at those things and strip them off, 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.320 Whereas when I was younger, I would have been like, 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.040 oh you see me, and then I would have probably 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:02.000 crumpled up in a ball. Yeah. No, growing up is 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.960 pretty rad like all the all the insights that you 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.480 get and the and the confidence that you get. It 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.560 actually is an unlike Unfortunately on like you two, I 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.200 don't have kids, right, I really wanted them, but I 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:14.760 couldn't have them. So I don't have kids, and I 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.200 don't have that thing to mark the passage of time 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.400 and to see, you know, the years go by or 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.920 my own growth or there. So I kind of have 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.320 to just clock it on my own. And I'm trying 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.480 because I feel like as humans we get this chance 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:30.800 we do our thing, and all we can try to do. 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:32.520 All I can try to do is be the best 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:35.040 human I can be, and the times that I've fallen 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.400 and and failed, I have to just get up and 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.800 try again and do better the next time, rather than 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.760 going I failed, I am ah, you know, and beating 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.320 myself up. And yeah, I'm saying that for the people listening, 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:51.120 because I'm sure I'm not the only person who behaved 0:12:51.160 --> 0:13:07.000 like that to themselves. No. Oh my gosh, I wish 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.319 I had spent more time with you with that Sundance 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:14.120 part way back when, because you're awesome. Well, you know, 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.679 thank you, that's really kind of you to say. But also, 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.120 you know, this acting career, right, it's up, it's down, 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:22.240 it's sideways. So like Jenny, I right, I don't know 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:25.240 if you you right as well? Right? Sometimes and I 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:27.840 you know, when things got a little slow, I wrote 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.480 a book and sold a book to a major publisher, 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.600 And that was a big step for me because back 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:35.160 in the nineties, you remember when it was like you 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:38.959 can only be an actor, anything else and you suck. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.800 So I had that ingrained in me that, like even 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.719 even other artsy stuff, the attitude was well, if you're 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:50.000 not you know, you can do one. Wait, what's your book? Oh? 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.600 It's it's okay, don't laugh, or you got or your 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.360 ladies can, and you can make fun of me later. 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.120 But one thing I've always done throughout my whole life, 0:13:56.160 --> 0:14:01.080 that's he'll calm me down and self soothe me. It's, um, 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:05.880 I don't know why, an embarrassed. It's not really first masturbating. Yeah, 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:10.160 the book about white story, I recommend The Rabbit. No, 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:14.520 it's not about that is the fastest one. Okay, go on, 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.880 it's a I knew you know that one. It's a 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:23.480 tarot book in deck set. It's young love this, Oh 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.280 good God, listen. The reason I had my bets on 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:29.320 this is I didn't understand that certain people are like 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.480 especially my black brothers and sisters are like, oh no, 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.640 Rachel the devil, And I'm like, okay, paper cards printed 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:42.920 in China literally just images we use to unlock our 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:47.040 own emotions, the things that are unconscious. Right, So it's 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.480 always been a passion of mine. And um, I wrote 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:53.040 a book and designed a deck and it's I'm proud 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:54.840 of that. But wait, what's it called? Tell us what 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:58.760 It's called true true heart, intuitive tarot and you can 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:00.960 get it anywhere. Books are still like Barnes and Noble 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:05.320 or Amazon. But I'm proud of that. You're smart. That's 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.560 you should be proud of that. That's awesome, that's great. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.680 A soo, I wrote it myself. I had six million 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:12.160 people be like, I'll write it for you, and I 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.600 was like, I am an artist, I will write my 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.520 own book. But I think I'm particularly proud of it 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:21.800 in my evolution because I needed something to focus on. 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:23.440 I'm not kind of personal. If I don't have a 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.800 job right and I don't know the kids to the 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.640 I didn't have anything to focus on, and this grounded 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:30.640 me and let me know that I had a talent 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.880 as a writer. Because it includes twenty two memory kind 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:39.200 of essays, personal essays. There's really mind opening, just like 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.000 every role we do is mind opening. You know the 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:47.119 book was mind opening? Well did you write this book? Oh? 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.400 I think it came out almost two years ago. Now 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:51.880 I'm literally in the middle of pitching my next book 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.200 right now. So I let me have a career. Like 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.800 you you're you've done all these acting roles. Now you're writing, like, 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:01.000 what is what's your favorite? Do do you like one 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:04.560 more than the other? Wait? Oh wait, what's her favorite thing? 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:08.840 That she's done. Can I say my favorite thing she's done? Sorry? Okay, 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:13.720 can I fan girl out before you answer that question? Yes? Okay, 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.360 So rewatching this. I have to admit, like Jen and 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.320 I haven't seen a lot of the episodes, which is 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.600 why as best friends, like we're so excited to rewatch 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:25.520 together and talk about it. And for some reason, I 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:28.400 didn't remember, like I knew, I knew you, um, but 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.360 I didn't remember you were in nine two. When I 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:35.440 saw you, I literally freaked out and went because horror fanatic, Sorry, 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:36.760 I have to talk about the Craft. I just have to. 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:41.320 I'm sorry, thanks girl, one of the most iconic cult 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:47.040 horror films ever. Um and yeah, obsessed with the Craft, 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.600 and I had to go. My kids don't even care 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.200 that I was in nine two, but I was like, 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.960 oh my gosh, come look, and they right off the 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:57.480 bat were like from the Craft, and I was like, yeah, 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:01.040 I really because one of my their friends pre summer, 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.320 she's a big she was on a different world and 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:08.880 it's a big She's great, she's so funny, so talented. 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.119 She just showed the Craft to her daughters and all 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.639 of a sudden, my stock went up so far in 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.600 that household. Before they were like, oh yeah, Rachel. Now 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:22.960 they were like, Rachel, my daughter just turned to eleven, 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.359 and she's like a huge fan. And I'm going to 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:27.320 be a geek and take a picture of the screen 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.600 here so she could see you and I together. And 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:33.800 you too, Jenn, you too, Well, it's your daughter. Actually 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.560 I call we call um my one daughter Hattie, actually 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:41.119 Jenny's daughter, Um, but we she's a horror fan and 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.359 we're going to do her eleventh birthday and she wants 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:47.879 it um after the craft. Wait cool to me as 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:51.520 you showed her the original. I wanted to ask you 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.040 what you think of the new one. I don't know 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.280 her nice gowns, I don't know. I mean, here's the thing. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.640 I would have more to say, except I feel like, 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:02.680 and I'll put this on the record, I feel like 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:04.600 they made a mistake. They were in talks with all 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.240 of us to be in it right, and then they 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.600 executive is like, well, we pulled the audience and the 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.760 last thing they want to see is you ladies with kids, 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:15.080 and and everyone I speak to who like you girls, 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.880 women and everyone out there is like what do you mean? 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.560 Because I feel like what they do is they discount 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:26.400 us grown women who have more spending money. Now theoretically, 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.040 you know, I mean, you guys had all in your twenties, 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:33.040 but for the regular, for normal people, most women who 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.760 are grown, we haven't spending money. And I think the 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.159 crowd that people would have come out to see the 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.560 grown ladies and the craft with their kids, you would 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:44.159 have gotten the young and yeah, exactly. And instead what 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.000 I get is like, you know, I mean, I guess 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:48.920 shade to the new one is people going there was 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:53.440 a new one, and I'm like, all right, anyway, yeah, 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:57.160 because that really hurt the screen franchise, bringing the original 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.840 cast back and like also having the new bees, you 0:18:59.880 --> 0:19:02.760 know what I mean, Like, it's kind of nuts that 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:04.240 they were in talks with you and then it didn't 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:07.679 go further like I would have. I wanted that. I 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:09.719 wanted to look for you guys, like what that's what 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:14.240 fans want to see, so that you could blend generations. Um. 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:19.760 So my so, my daughter liked it. Um. And that's 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.879 actually when I showed her the original one because she 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:24.840 liked it, and I was like, She's like, why don't 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.159 you like this? This is great? And that's when I 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.320 was like, Okay, you gotta see the O G one 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.960 my generation watch because it's amazing. And then she got 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.840 her cell phones? What's wrong with them? Know? She ended 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.159 up because you know, sometimes horror films now are just 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:43.119 so like high, like fast paced, and the lighting and 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:45.920 the it's all about like, oh, I don't know, it's 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.760 too much to get anxiety. They don't let anything breathe 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:52.280 in horror films sometimes. And the first one was just 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:56.840 so iconic and just everything head to show, fashion, everything. 0:19:57.280 --> 0:19:59.760 I think they did a good job at capturing that 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.960 moment in time. How's that? You know? Like it really 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:06.639 did capture some the onst of the nineties, um and 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:08.919 that moment in time. And I will give the new 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.040 one which I haven't seen, but I think they captured 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:14.040 their moment too, you know what I mean, like their 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:17.160 moment of now um and and that's kind of what 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:21.840 film is about. So anyway, I would say, back to 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:24.600 Jenny's thing, I like it all. One thing I've realized 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:28.560 like when I was in my younger years, I was 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.800 always uncomfortable saying I'm an artist. I don't know why, 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:35.720 you know, because I thought artists were this better thing 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:39.440 than me. Right, So now I fully understand as an adult, 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:43.040 I'm an artist. So whether it's writing, directing, which I 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:46.760 would like to do, any any of these things, Um, 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:50.920 I adore. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't. I wasn't comfortable 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:53.920 saying oh, I'm a creative as a young person either, 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.720 But now, like that's the only way my brain works, 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.440 and I know it and I love it. Right, That's 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:02.080 what I really is. That is how my brain works. 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.520 So it doesn't really matter what formed is. I do 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.119 get a particular kick out of acting. I don't always 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.760 have to watch it, per se. What do you mean 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.879 watch your work? Yeah? I don't always enjoy that. Like 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.159 if you guys credit for watching the old episodes of 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:18.840 your shows. It's so long ago that it's okay for 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:23.800 us now to watch. Really Yeah, And like, oddly enough, 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:25.480 I don't know if my master told you guys. Like 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:30.320 I'm here in Louisiana shooting the sequel twenty years twenty 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.840 plus years later to Half Baked, which was a stone 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:37.720 stoic What that is so fun? That's why I'm here. 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:41.760