1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: This is the Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 2: All the work, all. 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 3: The talk, all the handicapping is done. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: It's time for history. They're all in line. We're ready 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: for this time. 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 4: They're in the Breakness rank. 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 3: Another two legs more back to win win wind on 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 3: the turn beginning clip pickup drive near the bank of 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: the pack. 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 4: As the field turns for home, Hendy burst on and 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 4: opening on the other side's trying to first drive as 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 4: they come to the final prolong kick fling on what 13 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 4: drove down to the. 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: Line that a possible result here last break this Hello 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: and welcome to the Action Network Podcast presented by FanDuel. 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: I'm Sean Zerrilla, joined today by Mike Samach and Mike 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: Conti to help you break down the one hundred and 18 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: forty eighth running of the Preakneck Stakes, going to post 19 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 1: at six fifty four pm on Saturday. We're gonna break 20 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: down the second duel, the Triple Crown, also take a 21 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: look at the Black Eyed Season Stakes on Friday, and 22 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: the Guy's favorite undercard bets for both Friday and Saturday. 23 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: But we're going to jump right into things talking about 24 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: this edition of the Preakness, which in my lifetime might 25 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: be the weakest edition of the Preakness ever one runner 26 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: coming back from the Derby. Typically you see about three 27 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: to five and seven new shooters coming in here going 28 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: into the Derby. I said, this was, by speed scores, 29 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: one of the slowest Derbies in recent memory. And now 30 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: you have basically all of those horses except for the 31 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: Derby winter Mage not running back in this race, so 32 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: a slower crop probably going against Mage contending for this race. 33 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: Mage was a fifteen to one post time underdog, I 34 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: believe at the Derby when it closed eight to five 35 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: coming in here for the Preakness. I'm going to toss 36 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: it to Mike Sawmich first because he was all over 37 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: Mage in the Derby. Hope he cashed some tickets using 38 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: that Mage was my initial reaction when I watched tape, 39 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: and somehow over the course of the week talked myself 40 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: out of it, probably because he had never raced as 41 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: a two year old and just thought he needed more experience. 42 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: Happened underneath, not on top, but Mike Sammich I agree 43 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: or disagree with the fact that this is one of 44 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: the weakness Preakness fields in a while. And how do 45 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: you see Maje shaping up into this race relative to 46 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: where he was in a derby, Do you think he's 47 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: ready to take another step forward? 48 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: Definitely agree with you. On one of the weaker Preakness 49 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: fields that we've seen, I think there's a couple reasons 50 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: for that. First off, this this crop had a lot 51 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: of defections prior to the Derby. If we talked about, 52 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: you know, the top ten horses we were looking at 53 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: in December of last year, really only fourte was the 54 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 3: one who ran in the Derby, or was trying to 55 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: run in the Derby obviously ended up scratching out there 56 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: as the favorite. 57 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: So you lose those horses. 58 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: And then on top of that, we had these essentially 59 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: three horses that drew in that probably would have been 60 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: in the Preakness had they not drawn into the Derby, 61 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: So that took some of those horses out as well. 62 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 3: Man Are and Hero really the one you can point 63 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: to and say, hey, he was planning to be here, 64 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: but because he ended up in the Derby, ended up 65 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 3: not here in the Preakness. So yeah, we don't have 66 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 3: a wonderful field here. But at the same time, it's 67 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 3: a very interesting betting race. You brought up Maje specifically 68 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: only started four times in his career. This is going 69 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: to be the fifth start coming off of by far 70 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 3: his best race of his career. That Kentucky Derby was 71 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: absolute phenomenal and if you have not watched it and 72 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: focused on age, it is one hundred percent worth doing. 73 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 4: So. 74 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: He did everything on his own around the far turn. 75 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 3: He only got hit once down the stretch by Castellano. 76 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 3: The big question for me, and it's something that I've 77 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: been grappling with for the last week. Can we expect 78 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: that type of performance again in just two weeks? And 79 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 3: it's really does Maje bounce meaning regress off of that 80 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: Derby or will Mayge run rap back to that race, 81 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 3: Because to be honest, if he runs back to that Derby, 82 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 3: they're all running for second. So it's really a question 83 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: of how do you handle that two week turnaround and 84 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: do you think Mage is able to quickly bounce back 85 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: from that race? In my mind, I don't think that 86 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: Derby took that much out of him, which is wild 87 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: to say because it was that good of a race. 88 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: But we'll see what happens here first within the Preakness. 89 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: If he can get through here, should be interesting, should 90 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: be a lot of fun to have a triple. 91 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: Crown on the line at Belmont. So Mage came out 92 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: from slightly off the pace in that race, and Mike 93 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: CONTI I want to start talking about how we envision 94 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: the pace for the Preakness field of eight instead of 95 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: field to twenty. I think we typically get an honest 96 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: pace in the regardless of whether there are early speed 97 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: horses in there, just because somebody inevitably is going to 98 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: send to the front. Looking at the time for m 99 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: us pace projector for this race, they have the number 100 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: four Coffee with Chris out on the lead, along with 101 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: the number one National Treasure and the number eight first mission, 102 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: I would expect National Treasure with John Velaskaz on board 103 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: to be out on the lead because that's where he 104 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: likes to be. Mage, the number three and the number 105 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: six perform in that second flight, the number two and 106 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: the number seven in the third flight, and then the 107 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: number five Red Route One coming from all the way 108 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: in the back. I don't necessarily think there's a lot 109 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: of speed in this race. Frankly, if looking at pps 110 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: I think Mage might have the best early speed in 111 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: this race. Going back a few races, so, Kanti, how 112 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: do you see the pace planning out? I want to 113 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: get Mike's Mike Smitch's thoughts as well on the pace, 114 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: but I actually expect a slower pace and I'm gonna 115 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: be looking for horses who are near the front. 116 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 2: I agree, right. 117 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 4: It's also interesting and kind of ironic because we sat 118 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: here two weeks ago and said, no one knows, right, 119 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 4: the biggest question is going to be the pace in 120 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 4: the derby, and what did we get. We got the 121 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 4: fastest half mile derby time in the history, and so 122 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: you ask yourself, then, okay, well, like clearly somebody wanted 123 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 4: to go. I agree right that I do think that 124 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 4: the fore coffee with Chris is probably going to be 125 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 4: the horse that goes. On paper time form pace figures 126 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 4: the whole nine yards looks like that that horse will go, 127 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 4: And frankly, I think it's the only chance that he 128 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: has to win is to go and try to somehow 129 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 4: gate to wire this field. That being said, right, there's 130 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 4: been a ton of hype around first mission, the eight 131 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 4: post in a field of eight right, being on the outside, 132 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 4: that's fine. If anything, it's actually will help him to 133 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: sit the trip that he wants you mentioned National Treasure. 134 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 4: He will also be much more forwardly placed as he's 135 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: been in most of his starts. The question for National 136 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 4: Treasure is what type of trip does he get? Because 137 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 4: if you go back and look at and watch the 138 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: replay of that Santa Needa Derby, I've watched it multiple times, 139 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: there's two things that you need to watch with National Treasure. 140 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 4: From that Santa Needa Derby, it's the far turn. The 141 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 4: horse has to almost come to a complete stop because 142 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 4: he's boxed in. He can't go anywhere. And for everybody listening, 143 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 4: what you need to understand about horses, you're talking about 144 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 4: half ton plus animals like to go from thirty plus 145 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 4: miles an hour and put on the brakes to call 146 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 4: it ten fifteen twenty miles an hour, and then to 147 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 4: re engage and try to pick that speedback up. 148 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: It's not an easy thing to do. 149 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: So if you watch the far Turn and National Treasure, 150 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 4: he's got to stop, and you watch the last sixteenth 151 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 4: of a mile of that Santa Nita Derby and you 152 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 4: see that he really finds his footing again and you're like, Okay, 153 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: this horse has talent. It's also we also should note 154 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 4: right this horse is a National Treasure? Is a Bob 155 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 4: Bafford horse. Bafford obviously was serving the band for the 156 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 4: Derby and Churchill Downs. We now have a Bafford horse 157 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 4: coming back in the Preakness. You know, is this just 158 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 4: one of those situations where the Bafford horse is the 159 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 4: one that's most prime, most ready, most talented. At four 160 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 4: to one, I'm willing to take that shot. 161 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: Saw much. How do you see the place bang out 162 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: relative to Kanti? Is National Treasure or horse he might 163 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: be interested in just because you could see him being 164 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: at the front of a slow pace. 165 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: National treasure is the million dollar question in this race 166 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: to me, because if you go back and you look 167 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: at his past performances, he probably is the fastest horse 168 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: in this field. However, he has not gotten the lead 169 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: since his debut race. That's not really his fault. Though 170 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: he faced cave Rock twice at two. Cave Rock was 171 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: probably the fastest horse in this crop early, so he 172 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: was never getting the lead over him, especially since he 173 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: was a stable mate. Came back and ran against four 174 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: other Bafferts in the Sham, you weren't going to see 175 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: him get the lead there either. And then that's sandy 176 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: to Derby. The Kanti reference, they went fast. I mean 177 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: they went twenty two and change forty six and change. 178 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: National Treasure was sitting right off of that. He was 179 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: three wide versus practical move being on the rail. And 180 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: now with this rail draw, I don't see how you 181 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: don't try and send National Treasure. He is faster than 182 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: coffee with Chris if he wants to be The last 183 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: was on Baffert's. Consistently he has gone to the front 184 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: in these Triple Crown races. I think it's National Treasure's 185 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: pace to control. He has not done that since his 186 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: maiden breaking score, though, which makes it a little more 187 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: difficult to try and actually project that. But if he 188 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: does control the pace, National Treasure is wildly dangerous in 189 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: this race. He would save ground, he'd be able to 190 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: go his own speed. He has no distance issues. As 191 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: Kanti reference. There in the Sanity de Derby he got 192 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: cut off and then he kept going. That's a big 193 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: sign that a horse doesn't mind that added distance. So 194 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: I think National Treasure is a huge threat here, specifically 195 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 3: because he drew the rail. I think that was the 196 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: best possible place for him to draw, because it limits 197 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: the options that John Velasquis has aboard. He has to go, 198 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: He has to send this horse. He doesn't want coffee 199 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: with Chris to cross over. As long as he wins 200 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: the race into the first turn, which he should be 201 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: able to, he controls the pace and becomes a huge problem. 202 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: For the rest of this field. Starting to get an 203 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: idea for where you guys might be leaning for your 204 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: top wing contenders in the race. But let's back up 205 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: for a second. It is a field that so you 206 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: don't need to cut too many horses from your tickets, 207 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: but if you're looking to include the number three mage 208 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: at his odds, you probably need to get rid of 209 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: a few of them. If you're talking about exotics. I 210 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: mentioned the pace of the race, the number two chase, 211 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: the chaos fifty to one probably coming from that third 212 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: flight of horses, curious if you guys think he's a toss, 213 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: and then also the number five red route one coming 214 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: all the way from the back in what I expect 215 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: to be a slower pace if you think he has 216 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: a chance to hit the money, So just give me 217 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: a couple of numbers each. Horses that you're probably not 218 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: going to include on tickets, and I want to see 219 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: blindly if there's a consensus between you two in terms 220 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: of horses we can toss CONTI lead it off. 221 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you mentioned a couple of them, right, Number 222 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 4: two Chase the chaos toss. I mean the horse has 223 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 4: only run on a dirt track once and it wasn't 224 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 4: even a fast dirt track. Has spent the majority of 225 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 4: his career on poly. The numbers don't add up, you know. 226 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 4: The last two he's not even been remotely close, frankly, 227 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 4: and he was the favorite at post time in his 228 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 4: last race and ran a clunker the four Coffee with Chris, 229 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 4: great story. Local horse just not up to the same 230 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 4: caliber as these. 231 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: Frankly. 232 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 4: You mentioned number five Red Route one another one you know, 233 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 4: could he pick up pieces late? Sure you want to 234 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 4: use him in a superfective? And fourth I'd be okay 235 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: with that as a win contender. 236 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. 237 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 4: Those are the three that I would lean towards passing 238 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 4: at this point. Yeah. 239 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: So leaving the number six performing there at fifteen to one, 240 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: that was a horse coming from that second flight that 241 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: I think might be able to get into it based 242 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: on the pace. Loan Samich, give me your tosses. 243 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to toss the two in the four 244 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 3: as well. Contie explain that very well. Two long shots 245 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: who I think are just in over their head here 246 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: in this spot for me. The other toss and this 247 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: is a horse I've been against for a while and 248 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 3: I've been enjoying being against him. Is the seven horse, 249 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: Blazing seven who I think is going to take some 250 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: money here. Chad Brown, Irad Ortiz, the connections are going 251 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 3: to get that. All we're going to hear about on 252 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 3: the broadcast is how Chad Brown points toward the Preakness. 253 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: This is his race. Blazing Sevens doesn't want two turns. 254 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: He doesn't want this distance. If you go back and 255 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: you look at his one major win, it was a 256 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 3: one turn mile in the slop. It was a Grade 257 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: one at Aqueduct, although it was pretending to be Belmont 258 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: that day, and the pace absolutely collapsed and that's why 259 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: Blazing Sevens was able to pick up the pieces there 260 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: going that mile. This is just a great horse to 261 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 3: leave off those trifectas, leave off those super fectus because 262 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 3: he is going to get bet in this spot. I 263 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 3: think he has zero chance of winning. I think he 264 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: has a very low probability of even hitting the board. 265 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: Chad Brown winning the Preaknous last year with early voting. 266 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: I was on that horse. That was a nice cash 267 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: for me. He's also won it in the past with 268 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: cloud computing. But I agree Blazing sevens I think an 269 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: interesting horse to go against considering the price point. Let's 270 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: talk about your a's, your horses who you're definitely using 271 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: on top in multi rays tickets, on top of your exotics, 272 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: horses that you think are the true wing contenders. We've 273 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: alluded to it, the number one National Treasure, the number 274 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: three Maje, and maybe the number eight First Mission. I 275 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: was leading to eight based on my early handicapping of 276 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: this race. Guys, how deep are you going in terms 277 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: of your A horses here and who's your top blink contender? 278 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: Well, I'll kick it off here, man. I think that 279 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: Mage is going to be awfully tough here. The more 280 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: you watch back the Derby, the more you watch back 281 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 3: the Florida Derby, either of those races probably beat this field. 282 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: And we don't need to progress here to be able 283 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: to win. We just need to run back to what 284 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: we've been able to do. If you go back and 285 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 3: look at that Kentucky Derby. Specifically, one of the keys 286 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: that I talked about going to that race was can 287 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 3: Mage break well? Mage broke fine, They just went really 288 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 3: fast up front. Maje actually ran a forty eight second 289 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: half mile in that race, but was in sixteenth place 290 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 3: because of how fast they went early. I don't think 291 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: they go that fast early, which puts Mage in a 292 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: perfect spot. And if Maje is sitting there two lengths 293 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 3: off the lead, three lengths off the lead, this thing's over. 294 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 3: I think Maje is able to absolutely romp at that point. 295 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: It's a lot easier to bet Mage at eight to 296 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: five if you had him at fifteen to one than 297 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: it is if you missed him at fifteen to one. 298 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: You have to come back at eight to five. So 299 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: for me makes my life a little bit easier in 300 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: that front. The only other horse I'm gonna be using 301 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: in multi tickets is National Treasure. I think that's the 302 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 3: one horse that has the shot of going gate to 303 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: wire here, and the price I think is going to 304 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: be right. I think Blazing sevens takes some money. You 305 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 3: mentioned first Mission on the outside. That's gonna be the 306 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: buzz horse that's gonna be the one everyone tries to 307 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: take a shot against Maje with, and for me that 308 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: means I'm gonna try and take a shot against that horse, 309 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 3: because I would much rather have a little bit bigger 310 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: of a price with a horse I think control the 311 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 3: pace in National Treasure than a horse like First Mission, 312 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 3: who yeah, looked great last time. Totally get that was 313 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 3: able to run down on Gravyan line late. But how 314 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 3: good do we really think that race was. I mean, 315 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that I'm convinced that that's the type 316 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 3: of race that wins this race today, and National Treasure 317 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: I think is more dangerous on the front of than 318 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: Arabian Lion was that day, and I think Maje is 319 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 3: better than anyone coming from the back of the pack. 320 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 3: So for me, I'm just gonna go with the one 321 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: in the three to try and get through here and 322 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: try and avoid the second favorit who I think is 323 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: going to get bet down off that five to two number. 324 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: Based on the discussion I've heard this week, I would 325 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: agree with you that I think First Mission is going 326 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: to get a lot of buzz, and I think the 327 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: odds for National Treasure may actually float up if you 328 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: get five to one, six to one by post time, 329 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: that would be lovely. Considering your guy's consensus opinion on 330 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: this horse continent, I would imagine you're also going to 331 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: be including the one National Treasure. Are you using Mage 332 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: or using First Mission or using anybody else? 333 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so National Treasure definitely my top pick. 334 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, while I listened to Mike and included Mage so 335 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 4: that I had a nice score on Derby Day, because 336 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: it wasn't my top pick. 337 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: It's a little bit harder to swallow at eight to five. 338 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 4: But for the reasons I mentioned earlier, right, I really 339 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 4: do like National Treasure. The other thing that we didn't mention, 340 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 4: National Treasure puts the blinkers back on. He's had the 341 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 4: blinkers on in two races, the Maiden special Weight win 342 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 4: which he went Kate to wire, and then in the Breeders' 343 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 4: Cup Juvenile because they wanted him to be more forwardly placed. 344 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: Mike mentioned it already right, going up against Cave Rock 345 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 4: and that spot tough to be able to get to lead. 346 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: They're clearly all systems go right. 347 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: There's one way that they want want to win this race, 348 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 4: and that's to go out, you know, to the lead 349 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 4: or be pretty darn close to it. And I do 350 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 4: think that, as you both have mentioned first missions the 351 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: buzz horse, he's the wise guy horse in this Preakness. 352 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 4: Let that horse take the money. Let the Chad Brown 353 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 4: Runner and Blazing sevens take the money. Who knows there 354 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: are gonna be people that are gonna bet coffee with 355 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 4: Chris just because he's the local horse and they want 356 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 4: the feel good story. Right, Let some of the money 357 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 4: pour in in other places. And Sean, as you said, 358 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 4: let National Treasure float up at five six to one, 359 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 4: that becomes extremely appealing. It's it's enticing as it is 360 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 4: at four to one, becomes extremely appealing at five six 361 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 4: to one. 362 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna let Mage beat me. 363 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: Unlike other sports where charp bets, big bets can directly 364 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: move odds, the public has their say in horse racing, 365 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: and those two dollars bets on Mage, the Kentucky Derby 366 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: winner will add up and his odds will shrink or 367 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: stay roughly where they are. I would imagine he finishes 368 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: around even money eight to five, probably fair for this race. Okay, 369 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: So Kanti just clear National Treasure of the one. 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Will same order 405 00:17:59,720 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: so much? 406 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: First? 407 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, I'm just using one in three in 408 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: the multi race bets. I'm not gonna go any deeper here. 409 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna try and take a shot. If I 410 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: was going to, it would be red Route one or Perform. 411 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 3: But like you said, Sean, the pace here just not 412 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 3: set up for either of those horses to be win candidates, right, 413 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna be looking for prices underneath the way 414 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: I usually play these races. Look if I like the 415 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 3: favorite and I think the favorite has an edge in 416 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 3: this spot, I'm looking for cold exactas. I'm looking for 417 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: cold trifectas, and I'm looking for heavy super fectas with 418 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: those one and two spots as single horses, right, So 419 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna play a cold three to one exact a 420 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 3: Maije over National Treasure. I'm hoping we get six seven 421 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: eight to one on that, which is a much better 422 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 3: price than Maje at even money, right, And that's the 423 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: way I feel like I can attack the race and 424 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 3: be able to create some value while even using the favorite. 425 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 3: I'm also gonna play some supers and I'm gonna put 426 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: Mage in that first spot. I'm gonna put National Treasure 427 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 3: in the second spot, and then i'm gonna use three 428 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: horses underneath there. I'll use Perform, I'll use Red Route one, 429 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 3: and i will use the eight horse first mission as 430 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 3: well in the third and fourth spots. So if you 431 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 3: play that for five bucks, you're just looking at it 432 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 3: a three times two ticket essentially, so you're looking about 433 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 3: thirty dollars ticket for five dollars. There's a great amount 434 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 3: of value in that where even if you get those 435 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: first two spots with shorter prices. If you can sprinkle 436 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 3: in one or both of those longer shots, all of 437 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: a sudden you have a super effected ticket that pays 438 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 3: out and you've got five bucks on it versus that 439 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 3: ten cent denomination, and you're still still only spending thirty 440 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: dollars for a ticket. 441 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: So I will play a. 442 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: Three over one over five six eight five six eight superfecta, 443 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 3: and then I kind of think Redwou one is the 444 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 3: horse that's going to run third here, So I'm probably 445 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 3: gonna play a three one five cold trifecta as well 446 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 3: to see if we can get some value there and 447 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: just hitting that one cold and having it for ten 448 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: dollars or fifteen dollars and juicing up those payouts. 449 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: I like the structuring. The one question I want to 450 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: ask is with the exact why are you playing it 451 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: cold and not boxing it, especially with two horses. Just 452 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: is that it just a value bat or you think 453 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: it's minus ev to box. 454 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: Itt So someone who is really really smart, my dad 455 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 3: who taught me how to bet, said, if I show 456 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: you my tickets, you should know exactly who I like 457 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 3: in the order that I like them. And so I'm 458 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: a big person. I'm big against boxing. I think boxing 459 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 3: shows a lack of real opinion. So if you want 460 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: to box it, I would recommend you probably shouldn't be 461 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: playing that race. You should have you know, let's say 462 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 3: you want to spend ten dollars, you should have an 463 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: eight dollars exact to one way and a two dollars 464 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: exact to the other if you're worried about it coming 465 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 3: into the opposite ways versus boxing it for five dollars 466 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: each way, because that shows a lack of opinion in 467 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: that spot, and if you are correct, you don't get 468 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 3: paid the proper amount. So if you feel like you 469 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: want to have some ability to kind of hedge what 470 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 3: your your opinion is here and mine is three to one, 471 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: you could play it eight dollars three to one and 472 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 3: two dollars one three. But for me, specifically the way 473 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 3: that I gambles, I'm looking for bigger scores, I am 474 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 3: looking for bigger hits. Generally that means I'm betting exact 475 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 3: as in trifectas cold or maybe playing a try with 476 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 3: one horse over two horses, But rarely am I actually 477 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 3: hitting the box button, because I feel like that doesn't 478 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 3: necessarily get you paid at the level you should when 479 00:20:58,640 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: your opinion is correct. 480 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: And I think this is a great conversation just your 481 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: thoughts on keys as well. You know, if you're if 482 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: you're playing a trifecta key or maybe maybe even exact 483 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: a key with you know, one on top of them 484 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: three underneath it, you kind of feel a similar white 485 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: that those are not expressing enough of an opinion to 486 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: play that race. 487 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: Those would be backup bets for me or smaller bets, right, 488 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: so I would have let's say, let's say if I 489 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: play a two dollar key and I'm playing that both ways, 490 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to have a ten dollars with that horse 491 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 3: on top right where I'm saying, hey, this is my 492 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 3: top horse, this is how I want to play it. 493 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 3: I become more interested in trifecta keys if I am 494 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 3: if I like multiple ten to twenty to one shots 495 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 3: that I have included in there, because if your price 496 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 3: is bigger on those horses that you're trying to run 497 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 3: in the trifector the superfecta, the BET's going to pay 498 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: a lot more. So it's if you are able to 499 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 3: run your one horse in there, there's a huge amount 500 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 3: of value So if I really like a ten to 501 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 3: one and I have two fifteen to ones and a 502 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 3: five to one is the horses I want to key 503 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: in the try with it. That's a situation where I 504 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 3: play it. If I like may Shure at eight to five, 505 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 3: a trifecta key just does not have the value. You're 506 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 3: going to spend too much money to be able to 507 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 3: hit something that's that's a big time payout. 508 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it makes complete sense, and the reason why 509 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: I love betting on horse racing. I think it's really 510 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: good lessons for bankroll management certainly, but also in terms 511 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: of how you've set it a way to express your 512 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: opinion when you're making bets. It actually teaches you a 513 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: lot of structure that you can apply to other sports. 514 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: That found that it's helped me, you know, through the 515 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: fifteen plus years that have been betting on sports and 516 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: horse racing. Mike Conti, let's talk about your horses that 517 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: you're interested in using underneath and how you're playing one 518 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: hundred and fortyeighth Running of the Breatness. I know you 519 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: mentioned that you like the one and three on top, 520 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: as our fellow Mike Sawich does from raising Dudes, But 521 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: how are you playing the race? 522 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, so playing it similarly yet a little bit different. Right, 523 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 4: with National Treasure being my top selection, I will single 524 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 4: National Treasure on top in the vertical, So in the 525 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 4: exotics and the multi race bets again, I'm not going 526 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 4: to let Major beat me. 527 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: I will be using the one and the three. But 528 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: in the vertical wagering exact a trifecta. 529 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 4: The horse that I like at a little bit of 530 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 4: a price underneath is Perform. 531 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: We didn't talk a ton about perform. 532 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 4: But when you go back and you look right, it 533 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 4: took this horse six races to break his maiden. But 534 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 4: then when you go back and you dig into who 535 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 4: he lost to in those other five starts before he 536 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: was able to break his maiden, lost to Mage, lost 537 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 4: to rays Kane, lost to Disarm, lost to lost Arc, 538 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 4: who came back and won next out. So it's not 539 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 4: like he ever faced a really soft field. He was 540 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 4: going up against some of the best two and three 541 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 4: year olds at that time. 542 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: I think he's really coming into his own. 543 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 4: You go back and you watch that last race, albeit 544 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 4: at Laurel Park it was a non graded stakes race. 545 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 4: This horse was weaving through traffic coming down the lane 546 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 4: and ends up tipping out just in the last sixteenth 547 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 4: or so of a mile to get up for the win. 548 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: Super impressive at a price. 549 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 4: We've talked about the other horses that we think are 550 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 4: going to take money in here, I really like this 551 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 4: horse underneath. So in terms of how I'm going to 552 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 4: play my multi race bets, I will play a straight 553 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 4: trifecta one, three, six, and then as it pertains to superfectas, 554 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 4: I will play a super where I have National Treasure 555 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 4: in first, Maje in second, I will have perform and 556 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 4: first mission in third, and then I would include Red 557 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 4: Route one, perform and first mission in fourth. So again 558 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 4: similar to Mike right three by two for a super 559 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 4: effecta bet you know, for five bucks. Again, it's a 560 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 4: thirty dollars bet. It's not a massive investment, but it 561 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 4: can pay pretty well, especially with the fact that you're 562 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 4: trying to beat Maje. You're skinny enough right that you're 563 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 4: actually extracting value and there are some prices underneath that 564 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 4: can come in and hit the board. 565 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: Folks if you need to recap those bets, because listen, 566 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: it's a lot of numbers, but just rewind it. You know, 567 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: they the guys put those together pretty concisely. But just 568 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: the general opinion here right, major National Treasure, the A selections, 569 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: the six perform pretty consensus B selection underneath use but 570 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: some order one and three on top. And I think 571 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna see the number eight first mission take a 572 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: lot of money. The guys generally trying to beat him, 573 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: but using him defensively. Let's move back a day to 574 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: the Black Eyed Susan Steaks five forty four pm post 575 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: on Friday. This is a deeper field. Twelve horses would 576 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: have been even longer. There were actually a few scratches 577 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: shortly before the draw. I want to get both of 578 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: your thoughts just on how you break the race down 579 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: in general, how you're thinking about betting it. We do 580 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: have a pretty significant favorite in here, the number nine 581 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: FASA also Abob Bafford Horse Bafford dealing with a lot 582 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: of tumultuous news in the past couple weeks, the sport 583 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: of horse racing in general pretty tumultuous overall. Is this 584 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: a horse you guys are considering going against as a 585 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: seven to five favorite, going against completely We're going to 586 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: use defensively. Want to hear your thoughts on the favorite here. 587 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: Any thoughts you have on this race in general, just 588 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: give it to me, my CONTI let's start with you. Yeah, 589 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: so I'll be honest, I'm tossing Phasa at seven to five, 590 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: like she's done nothing wrong, right, she's a perfect five 591 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: for five. 592 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: She's baffered. I just who is she faced? Right? 593 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 4: I don't know, not a whole lot out west in 594 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 4: terms of these younger phillies. 595 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: So she's a toss. 596 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 4: And then if you toss her, now, all of a 597 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 4: sudden you look at this board and you say, wow, 598 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 4: there is value to be had. I ironically also ended 599 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 4: up on the one horse in this race in Sacred Wish. 600 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 4: I went back and watched her Gulf Stream Parks Oaks 601 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: race a couple of times, and while I don't think 602 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 4: that she ran poorly, she finished second in that race 603 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 4: behind Affirmative Lady. But you could really see that she 604 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 4: was a little green at the top of the stretch 605 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 4: and she started to figure it out, you know, late, 606 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 4: and then the gallop out. Right, You watch the gallop out, 607 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 4: especially when you're watching these replays, especially these younger horses, 608 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 4: to see how are they finishing up right, Like, what's 609 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: their mindset when they're finishing up, and I thought that 610 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 4: she had a really strong gallop out, So at ten 611 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 4: to one on the morning line, she's going to be 612 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 4: my top selection. Ironically, also, Johnny V is riding her, 613 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 4: so if I was to play the Black Eyed Susan 614 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 4: Preakness double, it would be one with one both on 615 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 4: Johnny V. So I really like her, and here the 616 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 4: other horse that in this race. 617 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 2: That kind of interests me, piqued my interest. 618 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 4: I just don't know how I really feel about her 619 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 4: yet though, is text and here's my biggest challenge right 620 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 4: Wet Paint was a heavy favorite in the Oaks. I 621 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 4: loved her that day. Obviously she did not run her race. 622 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 4: She did, I don't think she ran particularly well. And 623 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 4: the other thing that came out of that, out of 624 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 4: the weekend at Churchill were that the Oakland shippers didn't 625 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 4: run particularly well, and so it just leaves a question 626 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 4: mark of how strong was that Oakland crop and that 627 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 4: Oakland meat. Was it just that they didn't like the 628 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 4: Churchill surface. We know it's a deeper track at Churchill, 629 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 4: so maybe that was it. I'm not entirely sure, but 630 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 4: at fifteen to one, tax is a horse in here 631 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 4: that also piqued my interest. 632 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: CONTI going against the number nine Phasa with the number 633 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: one Secret Wish at ten to one and the number 634 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: ten Text at fifteen to one. I found Angel Vampire, 635 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: Randy decent Derby maybe didn't out run as odds, but 636 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: Randy decent Derby coming over from Oaklawn. Mike Samich, are 637 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: you also against the number nine Phasea completely or using 638 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: or defensively at all? And what other horses do you 639 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: like in this race. 640 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned Angel Vampire because that's one of 641 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: the reasons I'm taking my horse in this spot. Look, 642 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: I'm against Phase as well. I think Mike broke it 643 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 3: down very well there. The California Phillies just aren't as 644 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: good and they have not been as good for four 645 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 3: or five years. Baffort hasn't won this race since twenty seventeen. 646 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 3: Before that, it was twenty eleven. These are Plecchra races, 647 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 3: these are Cox races. They've been successful with the Phillies 648 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: in these three year old races. The East Coast has 649 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: been better than the West Coast consistently with the Philly 650 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: over the last few years. So for me, there's just 651 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: too many question marks to play. This horse is seven 652 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 3: to five. I mean and tell me no lies. Ran 653 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 3: twelve in the Kentucky Oaks. That is by far the 654 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 3: best horse. A phase is faced, the waters get a 655 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 3: lot deeper, you're shipping for the first time, and the 656 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: price isn't right. So for all those reasons, I'm gonna 657 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 3: go a different direction. I'm gonna go to the four 658 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: horse Merlaza here. This is a brad Cox horse luring 659 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 3: Geroue gets the mount. This horse has done one three 660 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: straight times, ran second and. 661 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: Its first career start. 662 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: She is improving and to me, she has tactical speed 663 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 3: in a race where I think the pace is kind 664 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: of murky. There's a bunch of horses that want to 665 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: be forwardly placed, but no one that really wants. 666 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: To just go, go, go, go, go right. 667 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 3: So I think she's gonna be able to sit in 668 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: that second group, right behind the horses that do decide 669 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 3: to go, and she's going to get a nice trip 670 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 3: to be able to make a run around the far turn. 671 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 3: The distance should be great for her. This is a 672 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: Magla to a daughter of maglid to oorl out of 673 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 3: a distorted humor mare. So she should want every bit 674 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 3: of this extra distance she's going to get. I mentioned 675 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 3: Brad Cox, he's very good with these phillies. This is 676 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 3: clearly not his best filly in the barn, but that 677 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 3: may not to win this race because this is not 678 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: nearly as deep as the Kentucky Oaks that we saw 679 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 3: two weeks ago. The price is right as well. We're 680 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 3: getting six to one here in this spot. And she 681 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: was successful at Fairgrounds, which was also the thing that 682 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 3: pointed toward Angel of Empire, who won at Fairgrounds, went 683 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: to Oakland and won. Well, she won at Fairgrounds, went 684 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 3: and run a stakes race at Oakland. Now she's showing 685 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 3: up here on in the Black Eyed Susan. So I'm 686 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 3: going to use the fourmer lasa on top. I don't 687 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 3: feel like completely fading PHASEA. I'm not going to use 688 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: phase in the multi race stuff. But I do think 689 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 3: she makes ton of sense and that second or third 690 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 3: spot underneath if you're looking to play a trifecta, because look, 691 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: her best effort. Even if she is, let's say she 692 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 3: is better than what I expect, she could easily end 693 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: up in that second or third spot if she just 694 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 3: runs back to those races it would fit. I like 695 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 3: the ten tax as well. I'm willing to give that 696 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: Oakland issue a break. The race last time was good 697 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: enough if I respected wet Pain as much as I 698 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: did and she just didn't show up. I got to 699 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: give tax another shot here at fifteen to one, So 700 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 3: I think the ten tax makes some sense here. But 701 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 3: my topic is gonna be the four Marlasa at six 702 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 3: to one. I love it, guys. You know my initial 703 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 3: reaction to this race. I hadn't dove particularly deep into it, 704 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 3: but against the nine on the one and on the four. 705 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, one in four, the ten in there. Also 706 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: for the Black Eyed Susan Pretna's double. You guys also 707 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: like the one and the three in the Preakness, and 708 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 3: I mean brag Cox in big races, can you really 709 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 3: go completely against them? So the one on the fourth 710 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 3: and the ten in the Black Eyed Susan, the one, 711 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 3: the three in the eight in the Preakness stakes. That 712 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 3: covers you with Brad Cox, and it covers you with 713 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: Johnny v on the one in both races as well. 714 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: Let's back up a little bit to the undercard races 715 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: on Friday. Any particular bets that stand out for you, guys, 716 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 3: not only in terms of being a win bet, maybe 717 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 3: an exotic that you have somewhere on the card, or 718 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 3: just the horse that you want to single in multi 719 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: race sequences so much you're gonna go right back to you. Yeah, 720 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: I'm looking at the first race of the day here 721 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 3: eleven thirty post time on the East Coast, So get 722 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 3: your bets in early. I'm gonna go to the five 723 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: force Evan Harley and Grand Motion trains. Joel Rosario is 724 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 3: gonna ride. 725 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: This race. 726 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 3: Doesn't have a lot of speed. There's a couple horses 727 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 3: that have had the lead inside of Evan Harlan, but 728 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: in those races they were going twenty four forty nine 729 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: to the half. Evan Harlan is faster than that. And 730 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 3: Graham Motion is a very old school style trainer. He 731 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 3: does not press horses, he does not overly place horses. 732 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: Really interesting what he did with Evan Harlan. Evan Harlan 733 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 3: wins a maiden special weight at Aqueduct, goes right into 734 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 3: the Grade one Hollywood Derby that is a huge step 735 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 3: up in class last year, drops down to a winners 736 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 3: of one allowance, ends up running third there, then goes 737 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 3: right back into a Grade three race. Graham Motion thinks 738 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 3: a lot of this horse first time out as a 739 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 3: four year old win a mile and a half at Keenland, 740 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 3: ended up running fifth in that race. Now we're getting 741 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 3: second off a layoff, second out as a four year 742 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: old with controlling speed at a seven to two price. 743 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna put a win bet in here on the 744 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: five horse, Evan Harlan in the first race on Friday. 745 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: Eleven thirty am post time. So as Mike said, get 746 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: those bets in early second choice on the board. Is 747 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: there a number that you would bet Evan Harland down to. 748 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 3: I think we're gonna get every bit of that seven 749 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: to two. I think it actually might float up a 750 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 3: little bit even I would be interested in Evan Harland 751 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 3: at three to one or better. If we get down 752 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: to that five to two two to one range, that's 753 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 3: where I would start looking at, Hey, can I play 754 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 3: a double Do I want to look at something where 755 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 3: I want to single this horse in the pick five 756 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,479 Speaker 3: to separate myself a little bit. I do like the 757 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 3: four horse, and the second race rugs quite a bit 758 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: as well. I considered that having to be the best 759 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 3: bet on the card, but the five to two price 760 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 3: kept me off it. So if we see some money 761 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 3: start pouring in on the five Evan Harlan, I don't. 762 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: Hate the five to four double here to kick off 763 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: the card. Love that to start your card. And you're 764 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: betting for britn Stakes weekend on Friday. My CONTI any 765 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: underbard excuse me, any undercard bets for Friday for real? Yeah, 766 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to race ten, which is the Miss Preakness 767 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: Stakes for three year old Phillies Sprint race six furlongs. 768 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: There's a big morning line favorite in here, number six 769 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: Maple Leaf mel at eight to five. She's coming out 770 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: of all state bred races in New York and so 771 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: not just for that reason, but I'm going against her, 772 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: and I'm going on number four afternoon Tea. She broke 773 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: her maiden last out at Keenland, where she was able 774 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 1: to draw in after a couple of defections. In that race, 775 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: she was in the fifteen post. Here's what I really 776 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: liked about her. She sat a perfect trip. 777 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 4: Which you could say, well, isn't that a reason to 778 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 4: go against a horse? She was extremely green in the 779 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 4: lane at her head cocked, it looked like she had 780 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 4: the runner up American Retro dead to rights in the 781 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 4: lane and she won, but not super convincingly. That was 782 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 4: only after noon Tea's second ever career start, and it 783 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 4: was her first career start on a fast dirt track. 784 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 4: I'm expecting her to continue to move forward, and there 785 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 4: are no world beaters in this race, even with the 786 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 4: heavy morning line favorite at eight to one, extreme amounts 787 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 4: of value. I will be playing her in multi race 788 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 4: bets as a single, trying to extract the value earlier 789 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 4: in this pick five sequence that I think is a 790 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 4: little bit of a salty pick five sequence that ends 791 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 4: in the Black Eyed Susan Frankly, so I will have 792 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 4: her as my single in that sequence. 793 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: I think Mike and I both agree on a horse 794 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 3: in the eleventh as well, breath Away, who looked phenomenal 795 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 3: last time out in the sand Belle Island at Gulf 796 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 3: Stream Park, absolutely exploded, gonna be two to one in 797 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: the morning lines, a little bit of a shorter price, 798 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 3: but a horse that you can definitely keep running the 799 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 3: late pick five on Friday as well. 800 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: So that is the number one breath Away in race eleven, 801 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: and we have a consensus opinion there. Let's move and 802 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: I should mention for race ten a little partial for 803 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: me to the number I believe I lost that the 804 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: number five Topsy daughter of b Jersey, who won a 805 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: bunch of money for me in the Metropolitan Miles. So 806 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: any kids of b Jersey will be horses that I'm 807 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: rooting for it. Let's move on to Saturday's undercard. Any 808 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: bets throughout the card, either leading into the Preakness or not, 809 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: Mike so much going right back to you. Any undercard 810 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: bets you like, single as you like throughout the card. 811 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: So I'm going to take a little bit of a 812 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: shot here in the ninth race. 813 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 3: So you're going six furlongs for the phillies here, one 814 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars stakes. Race drew ten horses. Eight of 815 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 3: the ten want the lead, so ooa looking for the 816 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 3: other two who don't. Trying to find someone's going to 817 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 3: come from off the pace. A little bit that points 818 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 3: to the number six, gunning Ken McPeak gif Flavian prout aboard. 819 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 3: This horse has run back to back to back off 820 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 3: track races, come from off the pace in all three 821 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 3: of those. But if you look back, I would actually 822 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 3: argue the maiden breaking score of a fast track was 823 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 3: the best race for this horse. Where it looks like 824 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 3: we're gonna have a fast track on Saturday. We've got 825 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 3: a plethora of speed that is going to be firing 826 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 3: out of the gate in front of Gunning. I think 827 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 3: Gunnings it's the perfect trip, and we are getting six 828 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 3: to one because the buyers are just a little bit 829 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 3: lower than some of these speed horses. But when we 830 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 3: have four or five line up and Gunn is just 831 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 3: sitting there being able to draft right behind those leaders, 832 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 3: I think it sets up extremely well and that six 833 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 3: to one price should be there. So I'll take Gunning 834 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 3: the number six horse the ninth race at six to 835 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 3: one three thirty one pm post time. For that Gunning 836 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 3: a son of gun Runner, my all time favorite horse, 837 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 3: So I literally need to know no other research into 838 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 3: that race. 839 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: I will be betting Gunning. Mike CONTI give me your 840 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: favorite undercard bets for Saturday. 841 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 842 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 4: So I'm going to raise seven to the number one 843 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 4: horse again. I promise It's not a number thing for me. 844 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 4: It just happened to work out this way this weekend 845 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 4: to number one White Beam Horses three to one last 846 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 4: time out, first start for this Philly in the US, 847 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 4: excuse me, And if you just look at the running 848 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 4: line in the PPS, you say, okay, she lost by 849 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 4: a next she was relatively close, only sat two lengths back. 850 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 2: It was only a five horse field. 851 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 4: Though, if you actually then look at the times and 852 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 4: you go watch the replay of this, they went extremely slow. 853 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 4: I would consider it where she actually closed into a 854 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 4: slow pace. She was clearly moving the best and the 855 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 4: horse that won that day that afternoon. Excuse me, evy 856 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 4: jets walked them around the track. I think there's much 857 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 4: more pace signed on in here for White Beam, you 858 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 4: get irad aboard. For Chad Brown, we're getting three to 859 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 4: one on the morning line. Listen, I said, is my 860 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 4: best Derby card under bet was up to the market 861 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 4: four to one and back the Brinks truck up and 862 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 4: thankfully hopefully everybody else cashed as much as some of 863 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 4: us did on that. And I would say the same 864 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 4: thing here with White Beam. I love this horse. Honestly, 865 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 4: probably my best bet of the entire weekend is White Beam. 866 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 4: I think that she is primed, ready to go, will 867 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 4: sit a great trip as enough of as great late kick, 868 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 4: has plenty of pace to run into Chad Irad and 869 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 4: she's never run a bad race in her life. Second 870 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 4: off the layoff, there's just so much to like about 871 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 4: this Philly, and so listen. It's in a part of 872 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 4: the sequence right of like how do you play this well? 873 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 4: Mike and I both actually really like gunning in the 874 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 4: ninth race. So it's something where I'm gonna have bookend 875 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 4: singles in a big pick three where I single White 876 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 4: Beam in race seven, single gunning in race nine, and 877 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 4: probably spread a little bit, use three or four horses 878 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 4: in the eighth race, just quick, a tone, never explain 879 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 4: Easter and a manual in that race. But again that's 880 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 4: a race two where I will probably play a massive 881 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 4: pick three where I just single in race eight as well, 882 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 4: because I think a tone's gonna be tough, and so 883 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 4: I'll play two pick threes, one where I spread a 884 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 4: little bit in race eight. 885 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 2: One where I have. 886 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 4: It's a cold pick three where I've got white Beam 887 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 4: in ray seven, a tone in race eight, and gunning 888 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 4: in race nine. 889 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 3: White Beam was one that I targeted as well there, 890 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 3: so it was interesting he sniped that one from me 891 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 3: because that look that white Beam came home in twenty 892 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 3: two and three in that race that Mike was referencing, 893 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: that is otherworldly over that Gulf Stream Park turf to 894 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 3: not be able to win when you come home that 895 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 3: faster coming from off the pace. So White Beam a 896 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 3: good single there also kicks off a pick five in 897 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 3: race seven, so you I want to single both of them. 898 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 3: You can spread out in those other three legs and 899 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 3: try and get home a nice pick five. 900 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,919 Speaker 1: Congratulations the number four eminent victor the other Chad Brown 901 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: horse in the race. Because when you pick one Chad Brown, 902 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: the other one always comes home and ends up tearing 903 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: up your tickets. Guys, thank you so much for this analysis. 904 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: They gave you plenty of bets throughout the cards on 905 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: both Friday and Saturday, whether it was exotics for the 906 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: Preatnas Steaks, exotics for the black Eyed season on Friday, 907 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 1: a Black Eyed Season Preatnus double, and then some undercard 908 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: singles on both Friday and Saturday for Mike Samich, for 909 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: Mike Conti, I'm Sean Zarillo, We'll see you back in 910 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: a few weeks for the Belmont Steaks. 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