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Speaker 1: call mother in law mama, Mama, Mama, Sama, call your grandma, mama, grandmama.

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Speaker 1: I'm the mama. And this is again to answer the

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Speaker 1: question of how do you handle a bad mother in law?

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Speaker 1: So pure ordinary fifty nine says I hate to come

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Speaker 1: use some reassurance that I'm not being wildly unreasonable here.

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Speaker 1: My husband and I have a second OHI my husband

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Speaker 1: of the family. My mother in law spent a lot

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Speaker 1: of time thinking of her grandmother name and eventually decided

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Speaker 1: will it kind of is my I call my my

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Speaker 1: mom's mother Nana when they may. I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: I know I'm gonna come up with something wild.

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Speaker 3: You have kids.

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Speaker 1: Young Grandma coming coming, little grandma, call me little grandma.

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Speaker 1: This makes me uncomfortable as I am my son's mama.

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Speaker 1: It feels like it's being taken from me, and I

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Speaker 1: I've expressed to my husband several times since his mom

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Speaker 2: Are you serious? Need to check them?

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Speaker 1: So they need to check themselves before they wreck themselves, because.

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Speaker 2: Real, yeah, this is no Have you seen that?

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Speaker 1: Do you know TikTok? Because I always reference it and

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Speaker 1: no one knows it, the one that's like there's the door,

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Speaker 1: and it's like there's the door, bitch. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh, for how much I'm on TikTok, I should know that.

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Speaker 2: You can send it to me.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully someone will know that reference one day, oh man.

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Speaker 1: To further complicate the issue, our son has a pretty

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Speaker 1: It also further increases the importance of the word mama

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Speaker 1: to me. When he finally says it to me, it

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Speaker 2: Of pressure on one word. You're just gonna point that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be like, no, I'm mama, I'm mama, I'm mama, mama.

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Speaker 1: And so honestly, maybe the grandma is just at you

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Speaker 1: At this point, this is the most upsetting part that

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Speaker 1: I also am already in therapy for my people pleasing tendencies,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the replies in giving me the courage to

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Speaker 1: A relationship with my mother in law is otherwise great

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Speaker 1: I have overheard her babbling to my son and explicitly

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Speaker 1: It's overall wildly inappropriate in my opinion, and I'm so

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Speaker 1: And there are some comments and an update, but let's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my lord, yeah, what is up?

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Speaker 1: Uh deadly cat says mother in law. Is Delulu Opie stand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Suspicious Thoughts says whenever I hear these crazy mother

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Speaker 1: Do you like your mother in law or not?

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Speaker 1: Emory King says, yeah, the husband is the problem right now.

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Speaker 1: but it makes sense again, you can't choose. You can't

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Speaker 1: That's what I'll tell you, bummer, And that was great.

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Speaker 4: Give it up in law.

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Speaker 1: Josephine Medola requee if mother in law wanted to be

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Speaker 1: called mama, she could marry her son. Thanks. Hello, Well

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Speaker 1: well it seems like yeah, they have a better relationship

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Speaker 1: than the fiance and ope. But let's get into these updates.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if they stood up.

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Speaker 2: She said she was ready and working on it. She's

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Speaker 4: I actually to see the mother in law in therapy, please, yeah, please,

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Speaker 1: You are mama Mama. She is being unreasonable. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: with his mom. So true. Te nanny says, mother in

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Speaker 2: No, we're not allowed here.

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Speaker 1: I'll be strong. If he doesn't get his act together

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Speaker 4: Damn, damn.

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Speaker 1: The commenter is really stand I know. But there is

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Speaker 2: Do you wait that long to confront something?

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Speaker 1: Well maybe she might have confronted it and then just

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Speaker 2: Is that a fair compromise?

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Speaker 1: Is it saying something mama Joe? It's still it's still mama.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's a compromise, but whatever.

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Speaker 1: I have overheard her say, I want him to say

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I'm living in crazy town and

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Speaker 1: to finish this off.

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Speaker 2: They need a new couples therapist, that's what they do.

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Speaker 1: They do. They need someone who's gonna that this husband

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Speaker 2: I think all of these kind of husband fiancees are

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Speaker 1: You're useless, they're not doing anything. No, what are you

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Speaker 1: there for?

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Speaker 2: What are you there for?

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Speaker 4: And opening jars.

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Speaker 1: I can open my own jars man, put it under

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Speaker 1: hot water. Let's go easy, just Bill bang it. You

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Speaker 1: update and an end to the saga. Mama Joe is

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Speaker 1: now Nana. Let's give it up finally. Gosh, that's all

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Speaker 1: I wanted, Not Mama Mama Joe, Bana Nana.

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Speaker 2: My friend consonant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually my my Nana's birthday was yesterday, but

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Speaker 1: it's America. It's her American birthday.

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Speaker 2: But American birthday. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I called her before my mom did yesterday. Bag

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Speaker 1: Yeah did you call her before?

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Speaker 2: Sam?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Favorite, Yeah, you're the favorite.

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Speaker 2: Love it? Yes, extra Christmas present.

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Speaker 1: My husband messaged her saying the speech therapist says she

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Speaker 1: speech therapy, it's about me and how I feel about it. Yes, Yes,

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Speaker 2: She was scooting around the bush.

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Speaker 1: Around the bush, and you need to beat the bush.

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I followed up with a video chat saying

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Speaker 2: Who would have thought? What thought?

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Speaker 1: So problem finally solved. It just took me two years

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Speaker 2: That's the real problem, girl. Your people pleasing tendency, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. After learning that, all it took was just asking

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: As far as the comments calling for divorce, blaming me

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Speaker 1: aware of my massive self esteem issues. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: lighting a fire under my butt to at least resolve this. Finally,

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Speaker 1: I'm in a lot of therapy to undo my people

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Speaker 1: sweeping my feelings under the rug. This is hard, but

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Speaker 1: I'm trying my best and some relevant comments to finish

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Speaker 1: this off. Ro four eight nine says, that's crazy. Makes

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Speaker 1: me think you both might be able to unpack how

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Speaker 1: this mom's narcissism impacts how he reacts to you. Does

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Speaker 1: mention it, I'm immediately reminded the period of time when

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's learned, you know, example doesn't fall very far,

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Speaker 2: and it's it's wild how the learned behavior.

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Speaker 1: From your parents pick up for me. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: I can't think of a single time he's ever had

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Speaker 1: work through. Opie says, you may be onto something here.

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Speaker 1: His brother has also recently, as an adult, had arguments

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Speaker 2: To her after two years, Yeah, after two years, just

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Speaker 2: way two years, feel it out, yeah, feel it out,

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Speaker 2: and then have the conversation were over and then talking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, and then we have it.

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Speaker 2: There, we have it. And also just like, be very

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's just people. I know this is crazy,

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Speaker 1: but be very careful about marri It's a lifetime commitment.

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Speaker 2: Yah, weird these days.

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Speaker 1: Rarely occasionally it's a lifetime commitment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But kay ya, Kimora says, op is making strides and

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Speaker 1: I'm proud of that. Me too, man, me too.

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Speaker 2: Very true.

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Speaker 4: This is an episode from deep within the archives. Time

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Speaker 4: for okop relas.

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Speaker 5: My wife had a medical emergency and I abandoned her

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Speaker 5: when she needed me. But I have an explanation.

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Speaker 4: That explanation better be bulletproof or you're going to get

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Speaker 4: a bullet between those eyes.

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Speaker 5: He can't explain, Samuel.

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Speaker 4: Really, how do you explain this? I honestly, I would

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Speaker 4: love to know, because that sounds like I get out

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Speaker 4: of jail free card if you're ever in trouble in

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Speaker 4: your relationship. Just kidding. You should never lie, so don't do.

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Speaker 3: It, Sam, There's only one way to find out.

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Speaker 4: Please indulge me, Johnny boy.

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Speaker 3: Let's see what they got.

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Speaker 5: So my best friend thirty one Mail and I twenty

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Speaker 5: seven Mail have a tradition of taking a yearly weekend

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Speaker 5: trip together that is phone free boys trip. But bye boys,

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Speaker 5: no phone, no phones, no ladies, no problem. We've been

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Speaker 5: doing this for a decade now. These weekend trips consist

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Speaker 5: not traversing the wilderness. So it's not like we're completely disconnected. Still,

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Speaker 5: we like to keep one on hand for navigation. Still,

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Speaker 5: we do like to have a phone on hand for

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Speaker 4: Oh, so they don't bring their own phones, they bring

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Speaker 4: a friend. That's how disconnected they want to be.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they literally just grab one of their friends, like

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Speaker 5: you're our phone, You're our phone, lackey.

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Speaker 4: I feel like they shared instad a phone specifically for

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Speaker 4: this trip. And also, this is a deep bronze. I

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Speaker 4: love it. I love it. I'm here for it. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: maybe it's Broke Back Mountain Part two. Phones Edition, No

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Speaker 4: calls allowed, No calls to the wives at home, because

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Speaker 4: we're doing dirty business of those mountains.

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Speaker 5: Now. My friend and I left for our trip this

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Speaker 5: year two fridays ago to make use of the longer weekend.

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Speaker 5: This was the first time that I've gone on one

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Speaker 3: However, we have been dating for the last two years worth.

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Speaker 5: Of trips twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two, and

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Speaker 5: she seemed just fine during those trips.

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Speaker 4: She was fine, you know. And the boys we got

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Speaker 4: our decade Laune edition of just running off and getting

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Speaker 4: turned on in the mountains.

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Speaker 3: Do not disturb all over me.

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Speaker 5: Now. I understand that there are different expectations once you

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Speaker 5: get married, but I didn't expect for a complete one

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Speaker 4: You have to like prep your significant other if you're

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Speaker 4: going like no contact, like I went like somewhat no

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00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 4: contact for two weeks in Patagonia, but like I prepped

441
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 4: Ariana and I was like, hey, you know I'm gonna

442
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 4: be going on this trip, Like, don't worry about me.

443
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 4: I'm not dying. I still love you. And then you

444
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 4: could even use Apple shortcuts to schedule text throughout your time.

445
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 5: So like as an auto response or you know how you.

446
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 4: Like. Yeah, it's almost like you're setting virtual letters.

447
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 5: That's that's such a life act until we get chat

448
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 5: GPT to just completely answer everything.

449
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, CHATDVT. Can you be my girlfriend's virtual boyfriend? Yeah?

450
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 4: Can you?

451
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 3: Can you be the boyfriend that I could never be?

452
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

453
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 5: So my wife all but demanded I take my phone

454
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 5: as well in case she needed to get a hold

455
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 5: of me, despite her having the friend's number, who's coming

456
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,479
Speaker 5: along with I let her know that I had arrived,

457
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 5: and immediately after that she was texting me asking me,

458
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 5: what's it going, what's going on over there?

459
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 4: In the first two boys trips, she was totally fine.

460
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 3: It seemed like there was no issues.

461
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 4: I feel like something changed in the relationship. I don't know,

462
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 4: maybe she's suspecially like that.

463
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 5: Maybe she's suspecially Yeah, there's definitely more than what's I

464
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 5: think being revealed at this point.

465
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: As is uh usually the case with any one sided

466
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 4: Reddit story.

467
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 5: Now, I eventually muted our text conversation because I was

468
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 5: so sick of the phone buzzing all the time.

469
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 4: You can't mute the girlfriend.

470
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 5: Oh man, I had to mute those pesky peesky notifications.

471
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 3: They were blocking my bro time.

472
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 4: Bro. Yeah, yeah, my wife is being such My girlfriend

473
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 4: is being such a major cock block Right now, I'm

474
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 4: trying to slob my friend's knob right here in the wilderness,

475
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 4: trying to pitch you know what I'm talking about, friendship? Yeah, yeah,

476
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 4: the tent of friendship.

477
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 5: Then she called me a few hours later and asked

478
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 5: why I wasn't responding to her text. I reiterated that

479
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 5: this was supposed to be a no phone weekend, and

480
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 5: I kept the call short despite her trying.

481
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 3: To drag out the conversation.

482
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 4: Oh man, the guy's making you fatal flaw. You have

483
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 4: to do the pre trip girlfriend pregame where it's like, yes, baby,

484
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 4: I love you like you gotta do it you Hey,

485
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 4: It's fine to go. No contact, but you kind of

486
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 4: like just have to communicate to your partner a little

487
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 4: bit more maybe than this guy is doing.

488
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 5: And don't put it on you man, Oh god, you know,

489
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 5: just just just hit her with the minute before you

490
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 5: turn off your phone for ten days.

491
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: You're just like be gone with either k by we

492
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 3: need to talk.

493
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, sorry, I gotta turn off on time, but

494
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 4: we need to talk when I come back.

495
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

496
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 5: What's even better is like, don't don't be like we

497
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 5: gotta talk. Phone is gonna be off for ten days,

498
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 5: just like we gotta talk dot dot dot and the

499
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 5: phone is just that turn off is gone.

500
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 4: Man. Yes, we're giving the best relationship advice right now, dude.

501
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: We are, we are. We are advising all these toxic.

502
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 4: You're welcome stayed toxic.

503
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 5: Now. She had the audacity to call me another time after.

504
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 4: This the ADA doesn't she know is on a boy's trip.

505
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 5: So when I answered and found out it wasn't an emergency,

506
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 5: I simply turned off my phone.

507
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 4: He's going to the doghouse.

508
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 5: The calls then started coming in from my friend and

509
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 5: he followed suit. We spent the rest of the weekend

510
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 5: with our phones off until we all drove back on Monday.

511
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 5: Even the boys are like, yeah, we gotta we gotta

512
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 5: mute this pisky girlfriend over here.

513
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 3: Oh good gravy.

514
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 4: You could do you, but I don't know if we're

515
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 4: gonna have a girlfriend we come back, or yeah, yeah,

516
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,719
Speaker 4: oh there's a wedding.

517
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: Yikes, No, no they're married.

518
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 4: Then sorry, oh they're married. So they got married, they're maried, divorced.

519
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 5: I called my wife and informed her when we were

520
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 5: about thirty minutes away from my place, and.

521
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 4: She was furious, no shit, an idiot.

522
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 5: What I was blind sided?

523
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 4: Wait? Did he actually say he was blind side? No? No, no, no, no, no,

524
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 4: there's no way. There's no way. He like didn't know.

525
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 4: He was in a world of trouble when he came back,

526
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 4: like deliberately not talking to your wife.

527
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 5: Your wife, absolutely, bro, bad move. She said that there

528
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 5: ended up being an emergency. Her sister got into a

529
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 5: car accident that won't affect your long term I love

530
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 5: how he throws that in but still resulted in broken bones.

531
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 4: Bro, that's pretty serious. I'm like now, I'm like almost

532
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 4: like to like prove her point. Did she did she

533
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 4: do the setup of the car accident.

534
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 5: Or she got her sister in on it, like just

535
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 5: wear it like in Spongebox where cast like just like

536
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 5: just straight up in the hospital and we're like, oh God,

537
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 5: if only had your phone turned on.

538
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 4: But I'm not I'm not excusing this dude's awful behavior.

539
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 4: He's a dick bag, I think, you know, I don't

540
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 4: think he's acting acting in the most considerate way possible,

541
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 4: for sure, But like, on the other hand, he's gone,

542
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 4: what is he supposed to do? Like, what is like,

543
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 4: what is he supposed to do? Like he's in the

544
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 4: fucking mountains?

545
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 5: That thing you could really do about the car accident.

546
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 5: But it's like like, uh, like I could see her

547
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 5: wanting to at least talk to him, you know what

548
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 5: I mean.

549
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 4: I think she's looking for emotional support for sure of

550
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 4: the thing. Sandit emotional support for that. I think that's

551
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 4: pretty valid. Sucks that it happened on the boys trip.

552
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 5: And then she said that I just ignored her the

553
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 5: entire time that she quote unquote needed me.

554
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 4: Oh wow, you put the quotes, Wow wow.

555
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 5: I told her that I was very sorry to hear

556
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 5: about her sister, but it wasn't my fault that she

557
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 5: had essentially forced my hand into cutting off all means

558
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 5: of communication. You made me do it, babe.

559
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 4: You made me we weren't so needy, always check it

560
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 4: up on me. Maybe it wouldn't have to block yours. Like,

561
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 4: I don't know how this guy, you know, lock this down?

562
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 4: This is like boyfriend one oh one right here? Like

563
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 4: what do we always say active be red flags before?

564
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 4: I'm just like, I'm just baffled. I'm just baffled.

565
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know she decided to stay with a friend

566
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 5: before I arrived home that night and has since come home,

567
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 5: but she's still fuming. Am I the ale?

568
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 4: All right, let's get into the breakdown.

569
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 5: The breakdown.

570
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: Before we give our breakdown of this whole situation, put

571
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 4: in the comments, who do you think is the angel?

572
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 4: Who do you think is the A hole? So you're

573
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 4: not biased by us, and we're gonna give our take

574
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 4: in three two one? All right, John, what do you

575
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: think angels or holes? What do we got?

576
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 5: I think Op is the greatest angel. I mean, he's

577
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 5: truly Gabriel. That has just the clouds have parted, the

578
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 5: phones have turned on, and he has dissented to bless

579
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 5: us all and.

580
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 4: Best boyfriend awards for sure. Okay, in reality, bro in reality,

581
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 4: I think, ohp definitely not winning any best boyfriend awards.

582
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 4: I would say, for sure a bit of an a

583
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 4: hole for like just turning off his phone. Also, I

584
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 4: don't I feel like he didn't properly mentally like prepare

585
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 4: his girlfriend for like the trip.

586
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 5: That's almost the biggest A hole part.

587
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 4: I feel, yeah, and like she probably might have just

588
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 4: gotten like a little like from the first two times,

589
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 4: like got a little fed up maybe, and like this

590
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 4: it's her like this is this is her kind of

591
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 4: voicing her discomfort with this, like what he's doing. And

592
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: just as an example, So I did this this two

593
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 4: week trip to Patagonia like recently, right, and this is

594
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 4: the longest I've ever been away from Arion and my

595
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 4: current girlfriend. And before the trip, I'm like, hey, I'm

596
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 4: going away from two weeks. Are you gonna be okay

597
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 4: with this? I still love you? Literally, like all the

598
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: prep and stuff. I'm also saying, like, I'm really not

599
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 4: going to be able to talk almost at all on

600
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 4: the trip. But then my little sneakiness, I'm like, I

601
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 4: actually texted her and called her a little bit while

602
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 4: I was there, but the prep was I will be

603
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: not be able to be contacted at all, Right, and

604
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 4: I think assume that. I think, yeah, assume the worst

605
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 4: and then deliver more. It's like without a thing, you know,

606
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 4: like deliver more than you promise. And it was perfect.

607
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 4: She ended up being like really busy with work stuff

608
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 4: and was like hanging out with friends, and she still

609
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 4: felt like the most important thing is she still felt

610
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 4: secure in the relationship because of the conversations we had

611
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 4: leading up to this, Right, it seems like this guy

612
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 4: Op did not have that level of communication with his

613
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 4: girlfriend or his wife. His wife his wife god, yeah, yeah,

614
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 4: so like you have to have that level of conversation

615
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 4: and communication with your partner, especially if you're gonna be

616
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 4: leaving for a while. Yeah, I just I don't I

617
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 4: didn't see this from this guy.

618
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 5: Also, remember when he said, like, oh, it was fine

619
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 5: the years prior, but then this year she like maybe

620
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 5: she just like just finally got fed up with it after.

621
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. I was thinking

622
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 4: that too. It's like, bro, uh, this is maybe the

623
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: first time she's voicing it probably wasn't fine before.

624
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 5: Also, do you think there's a little bit of maybe

625
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 5: a whole four Op's wife for being mad about specifically

626
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 5: the not being able to contact for the car accident.

627
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: I think, yes, I think, like, like, I think there's

628
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: a little bit of a holyness from the wife just

629
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 4: because like I mean, he yeah, he maybe he didn't

630
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 4: have like in depth conversations and all that, but he

631
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 4: did tell her he was going to be like off grid,

632
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 4: and yeah, it seems like she didn't quite respect that.

633
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 4: That being said, he could have been much better at

634
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: like communicating, yeah, and supporting her through that because she

635
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 4: probably just doesn't feel She probably feels like anxious a

636
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 4: little bit maybe without him, and that's like, you know,

637
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 4: I think that's that's normal for relationships. I think he's

638
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 4: being inconsiderate to how she's feeling, and she's doing the

639
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 4: same back to him, and it's just manifesting in different ways.

640
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 4: It's like it's almost you're all basically seeing the different

641
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: attachment styles at play, right, Like she's probably anxiously attached

642
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 4: and he's like he's probably avoidant attachment style, and so

643
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 4: you're seeing this this dynamic play out right here. So yeah,

644
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 4: I think a little bit of a whole from the wife,

645
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 4: way more on the husband's side, Like if she was

646
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 4: acting in the best way, you know, possible, it would

647
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 4: be like, you know, respecting the boy's trip and realizing,

648
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 4: you know, the relationship is still okay. But actually, in

649
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 4: this case, I don't know if it is. He doesn't

650
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 4: seem to really care as much as he should about her.

651
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 5: Also, maybe we have you know, we have who's the

652
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 5: a hole, who's the angel, and maybe there's it's a

653
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 5: whole mess where it's kind of like I don't, I

654
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 5: don't I wouldn't necessarily categorize this one, but there are

655
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 5: situations where it's like like everyone's the A hole. I

656
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 5: don't think this this is quite up there, but it's

657
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Speaker 5: you know, it's a little messy.

658
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Speaker 4: Also, the friend is also kind of like complicit in

659
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Speaker 4: this because he's just started to big too.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: I think I think everyone's a little bit of the

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Speaker 4: A hole. But I think it goes like like O

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Speaker 4: P then friend than wife. That's my opinion.

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Speaker 5: And you know what, I actually don't think the wife

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Speaker 5: is just because like I could, I can't think frustration

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Speaker 5: just because of the frustration, Like I I don't know

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Speaker 5: for me personally, I kind of like get where she's

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Speaker 5: coming from.

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Speaker 4: Especially since there was an accident. I totally forgot about that, like,

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Speaker 4: especially there's an accident.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she's probably just so distraught, Like I I would

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Speaker 5: imagine any most people would be would be like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so distraught that you're you're You're right. I was

674
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Speaker 4: totally forgetting about the accident, Like if he like maybe

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Speaker 4: she would have been like a little and like in

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Speaker 4: the tiniest fraction of a hole for for like like

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Speaker 4: maybe like talking throughout the trip even though he said

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Speaker 4: he wanted to disconnect or whatever. But because there was

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Speaker 4: actually like like a pretty severe car crash, like I

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Speaker 4: think that absolves her of everything.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's kind of like what what can you do?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And and I understand his point about like you know,

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Speaker 4: like I'm not even like what would I be able

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Speaker 4: to do? But I also don't think that's a very

685
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Speaker 4: empathetic response either, right.

686
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Speaker 5: No, not at all after like off of like shutting

687
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Speaker 5: down the wall of communication.

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, that's pretty step two. So I think there's

689
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Speaker 4: like there's also a difference between what what is okay

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Speaker 4: to do and what would be like the most empathetic

691
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Speaker 4: like Gandhi Buddha like response that you could do. And

692
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Speaker 4: so like if you if they were perfect people, right,

693
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Speaker 4: like the guy would be more computative, communicative about where

694
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Speaker 4: he's going, what he's doing. The girl would be would

695
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Speaker 4: allow the guy a little bit more space, right like

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Speaker 4: in the if you if they were the best possible people.

697
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 4: But I think you know, humans are flawed and you

698
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 4: we need an insecure and like we we need to

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Speaker 4: meet people in the middle, often times in the middle

700
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Speaker 4: of their their flaws. So uh, I think this is

701
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Speaker 4: one of those cases where the guy needed to move

702
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: a little bit more. Uh, be a little bit more

703
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Speaker 4: empathetic to to his wife.

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Speaker 5: Well, I I only demand profess so half fun not

705
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Speaker 5: having perfection everyone, why I live in paradise?

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Speaker 4: All right, Well what do you guys think? I mean,

707
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Speaker 4: that's our our decision, our breakdown. But hey, where we

708
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 4: could be totally wrong, and you know we have our

709
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Speaker 4: own biases to deal with, So chew us out if

710
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Speaker 4: we're wrong, and please celebrate us if we're right.

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Speaker 3: Let us know.

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Speaker 5: Baby, my husband was disgusted by my unborn baby, but

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Speaker 5: now he loves it.

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Speaker 4: Okayop, this is OKAYOP. I'm Samuel Daughner and I'm John Fry.

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Speaker 4: We tell the funniest stories on the Internet and before

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Speaker 4: we get into the stories. We have a little announcement

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, same, you're looking kind of fresh fresh,

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Speaker 5: Why if I don't say so myself because.

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Speaker 4: Of my march oh oh oh oh oh yeah. So

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Speaker 4: those Garon's we don't want them.

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Speaker 3: What do you got boxes we're moving?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're moving boxes old Dame U boxes a march

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Speaker 5: But John, also, you got some merch on Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 5: we got the listen for any time people are doing

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Speaker 4: Look t l d R, the l d R.

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Speaker 3: People that think you're the A Whole, You're.

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Speaker 4: Not not the ale. So we got merch that's canceled.

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Speaker 4: Karen hats, t l d R hats. We got not

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Speaker 4: the A Whole shirts and broh shirts. And the shirts

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Speaker 4: have like van Go for the podcast listeners, podcast fam.

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Speaker 4: Their shirts have br with like van.

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Speaker 5: On it very classy painting, classy and the classy painting

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Speaker 5: modern text.

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Speaker 4: Yes, classy painting, modern tracks. And with the shirt John's

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Speaker 4: wearing Not the A Hole, it has a beautiful naked lady,

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Speaker 4: very sensual, very essential. So and it let people know

741
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Speaker 4: like hey, the good guy right here, not the a.

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Speaker 5: Hole exactly right. Yeah, cancel Karen. You know you're part

743
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Speaker 5: of the cancel Karen crusaders Like yeah, that's the whole thing.

744
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Speaker 5: So if you joined the movement, cancel, cancel the Karens.

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Speaker 5: Guys like we have to. Every person in America needs

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Speaker 5: to be wearing a cancel Karen hat. I believe it

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Speaker 5: to effectively cancel him. I mean like that will send

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Speaker 5: the message to solidarity on baby. So if you guys

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Speaker 5: want to buy it, podcast or YouTube, you can check

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Speaker 5: the link in the description. You can buy this. And

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Speaker 5: that being said, I.

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Speaker 4: Think we got Yeah, give me a juicy one. Oh

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Speaker 4: I got, I got a juicy through it like a

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Speaker 4: piece of meat and have the blood dripped down my

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Speaker 4: gums and my chin.

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Speaker 5: Wow. Oddly descriptive, like serial killer level descriptive.

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Speaker 4: Right there.

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Speaker 3: I love it all right.

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Speaker 5: My husband was disgusted by my unborn baby, but now

762
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Speaker 5: he loves it.

763
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 4: Discuss it, disgust it. Damn is a bad husband. You

764
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Speaker 4: need to go to the clink, go the dogouse.

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Speaker 5: No meals for a week, well, you know, don't don't

766
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Speaker 5: judge a story by its title, Samuel.

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Speaker 3: We've I think we've learned that in all of our.

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Speaker 4: Don't judge an a hole before we've read the story exactly, exactly,

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Speaker 4: all right, Opie says.

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Speaker 5: When we started dating, he male forty eight, was very

771
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Speaker 5: clear that he didn't want kids, and I, female twenty five,

772
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Speaker 5: knew it because he told me a few times. And also,

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Speaker 5: just like note the age difference there. Yeah, that's a

774
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Speaker 5: pretty big age gap. Like there are forty different places

775
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Speaker 5: in life. One five man's had like two divorces, and

776
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 5: you know, like made his wealth on his yacht. He's

777
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 5: like drinking wine and eating fancy cheeses and like.

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Speaker 4: My girl just got out of college.

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00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 5: Okay, good for her, Like, you know, lock it down,

780
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 5: like sugar daddy, dude, I don't want to work for

781
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 5: my whole life. Op He goes on to say, I

782
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 5: made a mistake with my birth control and ended up pregnant.

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Speaker 4: He was not happy at all. Yeah, make sure you

784
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 4: take the right pills if you don't want to get pregnant.

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00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 5: You know, the the cautious you figure it out.

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00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 4: You know, they used to have male birth control, but

787
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 4: then the guys are like, this makes me feel weird.

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Speaker 4: Believe to the male birth.

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00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 5: They're like, let's completely like modify the woman body so

790
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 5: that way I don't have to do anything.

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00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 4: So I like that plan.

792
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 5: So did they just like stop developing it or something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, basically like the men had the exact same symptoms

794
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 4: as as women on birth control, and they're like, they're like,

795
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Speaker 4: we don't like this, and then they just continued the study. Nice. Nice.

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Speaker 5: During the first five months of the pregnancy, he acted

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Speaker 5: as if I wasn't pregnant, literally just not acknowledging.

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Speaker 4: How do you not acknowledge that. I don't know, Bright,

799
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Speaker 4: you're a dick of a of a significant other if

800
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Speaker 4: you're not like massage and feet when they're pregnant.

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Speaker 5: Given that jar of pickles getting Yeah, the cravings were

802
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 5: peoples and ice cream, you know, and ice cream together.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: When my husband had to start buying things for the

805
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 5: baby and decorating her room, he actually started to participate

806
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 5: in those things and be engaged. He was in the

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00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 5: delivery room when she was born, and since then she

808
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 5: has become his world. He is an amazing dad, and

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00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 5: our daughter, who's now six months old, loves him, and

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00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 5: I thought he loved her too, thought.

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Speaker 4: All right, I sense a turn turn, I send something brewing.

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Speaker 5: But a couple of nights ago, his friends they're all

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Speaker 5: in their forties and fifties. Yeah, because he is old

814
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Speaker 5: as heck, because he's freaking old. Came to her house

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Speaker 5: for dinner, and I overheard a conversation that I should

816
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Speaker 5: not have heard, And now I wonder if he's honest

817
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Speaker 5: or not.

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Speaker 4: See, like, those are the conversations that you want to

819
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 4: hear too, though, Like conversations that like like this is

820
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Speaker 4: real talk, you know. Yeah, yeah, conversations are not meant

821
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Speaker 4: to hear. That's when people that's true.

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Speaker 5: Those are conversations they actually do need to hear. You're

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Speaker 5: not supposed to hear. One of his friends was making

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Speaker 5: fun of him for being a dad at his age,

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00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 5: and the other one said something like I thought you

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Speaker 5: were smarter. His friends are kind of a ahole, Like,

827
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Speaker 5: come on, that's so whack.

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Speaker 4: It's like you're having like also like imagine if he

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Speaker 4: if he's like he actually wants the kid now, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and it's super excited or like you're adobe for having kids.

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Speaker 5: Like also cares like if someone if a person was

832
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Speaker 5: have a kid, like let him live.

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00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 4: In the words of John Lennon, let it be.

834
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Speaker 3: Oh, John Lennon, it was so funny.

835
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 5: I was I thought you mixed up John and Lennon

836
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 5: and John Legend, but I mixed.

837
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Speaker 4: Up two very different people, John Legend, John Lennon glasses.

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00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 5: The husband's friend goes on to say, I can't believe she.

839
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 5: He was talking about me, trapped you, and now you're

840
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 5: changing diapers and preparing bottles at three am. This this

841
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 5: friend needs to not be a friend, like get out

842
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 5: of here, Get him out, like what are we doing here?

843
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 4: Get them to the curve. You gotta have good people

844
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 4: in your average. You gotta have a supportive circle around you.

845
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 4: That's at all times, at all the times.

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Speaker 5: My husband just laughed when he said that and said

847
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 5: that even if they couldn't believe it, he's enjoying.

848
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 4: To the husband for actually like sticking up for his

849
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 4: baby and his his significant other. Like that's like stand

850
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 4: up move. And it's non confrontational too, Like he's not

851
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 4: he's not being like you, but I know that first

852
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 4: responds pretty good.

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00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 3: Also, don't speak to you, don't speak too highly of

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Speaker 3: a fee.

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00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 5: Then his friend goes on to say that he's only

856
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 5: trying to convince himself because he knows that she's already

857
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 5: here and he can't change that. But he knows that

858
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 5: he never wanted to be a dad. They have known

859
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 5: him since they were teenagers, and that they know he's

860
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 5: always hated kids, and it's impossible that he suddenly loves it.

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00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 4: Bruh, just bruh, bruh by the brush, but bruh, what

862
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 4: why why are you saying all that?

863
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 5: Dude? Like literally, it's like they're just trying to have

864
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 5: a nice casual even if he drinks, and.

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Speaker 3: It's like this is blowing up his life.

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Speaker 5: Bro.

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00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 4: They're at like some like little party and this guy

868
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 4: is just like, let me be a bringer of sadness

869
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 5: And maybe it's worth like really asking, Like there's there's

871
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 5: a time in a place if you really want to,

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00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 5: and that's just not the time, not the way to

873
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Speaker 5: ask it.

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, ridiculous, honestly ridiculous. I just the bad friend.

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Speaker 4: Bad friend totally also doesn't know when to stop talking either,

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Speaker 4: freaking Like the husband deflects the first time, and then

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Speaker 5: At this point, my husband kept quiet and didn't say anything,

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Speaker 5: would probably damage our relationship. Then I thought that he

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Speaker 5: had changed his mind, and now everything was fine. And

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