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Speaker 1: Everybody. Welcome to an army of normal folks. It's Shop

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Speaker 1: Talk number sixty three. Welcome in the shop, y'all can

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Speaker 1: talk now, Welcome in the shop. Say hello, Hey, Alex

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Speaker 1: brought us whole clan to the shop today.

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Speaker 2: Well they were here for the Alex's Lemonade stand event.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Did you all enjoy that?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Did you? Oh? We have a visitor.

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Speaker 3: Who's that down there?

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Speaker 1: Oh? It speaking to this thing? Who is that?

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Speaker 3: Landry Adams?

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Speaker 1: Landry Adams and she is Howld eleven and she's from Oxford. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And was she go to school buddies with your neighbors something? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: All three. So we got Alex's four kids, so you've

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Speaker 1: been introduced before, and their new friend, Landry, popping in

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Speaker 1: the shop today. Hey Landry, do you have some money

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Speaker 1: to spend in the shop. Well you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: get out, okay. So today is shop Talk number sixty three,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about nail salons. Landry, would you

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Speaker 1: like to get your nails done? Well, you need to

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Speaker 1: go to a spa. This is a shop you can leave.

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Speaker 2: They are. We were driving up and I was telling

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Speaker 2: them about today's shop Talk. Yeah, and they were so

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Speaker 2: shocked that you love nail salons.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I love getting my toes done. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta have a pedicure. No, it's the greatest to

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Speaker 1: get George George.

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Speaker 3: You're raising him to be a man, George George.

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Speaker 1: Real men get pedicures, say that loud. No, George George says,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Real men get pedicures because it cleans

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Speaker 1: up your feet, so they're nice and pretty for your

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Speaker 1: lady friends. And it feels so good when you're doing it.

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Speaker 1: So everybody, this is not a children's shop talk, but

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Speaker 1: there are children in the shop. Shop Talk number sixty three.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about neil salons right after these brief

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Speaker 1: messages from our general sponsors. Hey, everybody, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the shop. We uh talking about my.

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Speaker 3: Love of nail salons.

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Speaker 1: And I think I said something about it in a

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Speaker 1: past show.

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Speaker 3: J Andrews, What was it, Andrews.

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Speaker 1: Jen Andrews, That's what it was, and you've been giving

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Speaker 1: me crap about it ever since.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: But of other listeners, Mitch commented on Facebook pill, what are.

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Speaker 1: You doing really well? You? I take my shoes off,

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Speaker 1: y'all take your shoes off, and my stuff's gonna be

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Speaker 1: straight and you'all gonna be mappy. And so that's just

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Speaker 1: the way it works. So all right, let's take a poll.

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Speaker 1: Who would like to have their toes done? One? Two

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Speaker 1: versus not one, two, three, four, five against two. We

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Speaker 1: win five to two. Y'all are losers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, four of those were girls. But you're going.

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Speaker 1: Apparently we have massacre misogynistic what are you? Yeah, yeah, something,

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Speaker 1: something's wrong with y'all. All right, anyway, we loved it.

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Speaker 1: So today the Shop Talk, we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: the little known history of the now eight billion dollar

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Speaker 1: an actress, her stunning fingernails, and some refugees. Here's what happened.

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Speaker 1: The story of the modern nail salon industry starts with

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Speaker 1: the Vietnam War. I'm not joking. This is what Alex

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Speaker 1: has done research for me, and Alex, you really need

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Speaker 1: to do something else on your Friday nights. The United

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Speaker 1: States took in one point three million refugees from Southeast

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Speaker 1: in seventy five, what was called Hope Village in California

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Speaker 1: actress named Tippy Hedron.

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Speaker 2: Do you know who she is, well.

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Speaker 1: Tippy Hedron.

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Speaker 3: No, well, I'm about to tell you.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, who oh. She was the girl in Birds,

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Speaker 1: and Tippy recognized these folks lost everything. Some of them

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Speaker 1: lost their entire family. They all lost everything they had Vietnam,

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Speaker 1: any way for them to learn something, and they loved

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Speaker 1: not exactly what Tippy had in mind, but she went

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Speaker 1: with it. Tippy flew in her personal manicurist to teach

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Speaker 1: Southern California, and these Vietnamese refugees then gave the Nail

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Speaker 1: Slim business a radical makeover. The BBC said that Alex

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Speaker 1: couldn't have come up with something that creative. What Alex Wu.

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Speaker 2: Then whatever it was. I was trying to be cue

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Speaker 1: Oh what are we right here? And the Vietnamese refugees

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Speaker 1: gave nil slim business radical makeover? The BBC said that, yeah, oh, Alex.

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Speaker 3: You get that play on the words. They gave the

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Speaker 1: Ha okay, no I missed, but leave it in there.

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Speaker 3: The BBC wrote that, not me, I get it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: In the seventies, manicures and pedicures cost around fifty bucks.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding? In the seventies that cost fifty bucks?

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Speaker 2: And look at how much they are costing today's dollars.

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Speaker 1: Which would be three hundred dollars in today's dollars, I'd

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Speaker 1: still pay three hundred dollars for good pedicure. That's how

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Speaker 3: It's how normal you are.

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Speaker 1: Oh whatever, that's fine for actress like Tippy Hedron. I

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Speaker 1: don't pay three hundred dollars for a better cure. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that my feet are nasty and I

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Speaker 1: want to relax for an hour. I would Oh. I

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Speaker 1: hope people at my pedericure place aren't listening to this

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Speaker 1: That's fine for an actress like Tippy Hedron, but most

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Speaker 1: American women couldn't afford that. Today, a mani petty can

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Speaker 1: Largely because of Vietnamese American salons that dramatically lowered their

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Speaker 1: today's eight billion dollar industry. This is really interesting, it

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Speaker 1: is cool. So this Tippy actress felt for some refugees.

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Speaker 1: Today fifty one percent of nail technicians are of Vietnamese descent.

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Speaker 1: Are you serious? Wow? And in California it's eighty percent.

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Speaker 1: Tippy is still alive at ninety five years old, so

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Speaker 1: she's been able to see this whole wild story play

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Speaker 1: No Doubt. With pretty Nails. She set of the industry.

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Speaker 1: Now it's dominated by the Vietnamese. I sure wish I

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Speaker 1: hard to keep these lines and takers fit. That's funny.

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Speaker 1: So it's a story just an army of normal refugees

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Speaker 1: folks that didn't have something to do. What a great story.

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Speaker 2: So when you talked about your love of nail salons,

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Speaker 2: reminded me of this, and it's it's one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite stories I've ever come.

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Speaker 1: Rover, Oh, you knew this story before? Did you really?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Well, you're making me good nails what are you doing

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Speaker 1: studying nail salons?

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Speaker 2: Someone else told me this.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's my my friend. It's like it's like,

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Speaker 1: my friend has this ailement. Well, I'm asking for my friend.

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Speaker 2: You go to Neil Slon's, and you didn't know this story.

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Speaker 1: I do go to nel Salon's on a regular basis

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Speaker 1: and I will be going soon.

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Speaker 1: Yay? Yeah, yeah, I know. It's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: With these refugees. Even Lord, the prices for you too, Lord,

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Speaker 1: For everyone, Thank goodness, because it is kind of expensive.

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Speaker 1: But man, it's so good. And by the way, all

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Speaker 1: I cannot believe this dude gets a pedicure. Here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: Sneak off one week afternoon. You don't have anything to do,

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Speaker 1: and look, don't get your feet painted or anything that's

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Speaker 1: and then let them size your feet and do what

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Speaker 1: non pedicure person. And Alex, if you had any any

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Speaker 2: If we have an Army convention one day, which I've

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Speaker 2: always dreamed of, maybe we'll have to have like a pedicure.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely no, I'll have a pedicure stand outside of the ballroom.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all of Vietnamese.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we don't want to discriminate, but it

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Speaker 1: fifty one percent of them would be Vietnamese because that's

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Speaker 1: the numbers. So that's it. How'd y'all what you want

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Speaker 1: to come? Yeah, that'd be awesome, wouldn't it. Yeah, y'all

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Speaker 1: could get yours painted. I don't get mine painted. I

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Speaker 1: just want a time, all right. So that's shop Talk

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Speaker 1: number sixty three, all from Alex making fun of my pedicures.

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Speaker 1: Yet another story of how the most easy, simple, mundane

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Speaker 1: thing can change lives. Anybody can do it. If you

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Speaker 1: to happen before we end everybody. I hope you'll really

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Speaker 1: hear me on this one. I'm stoked our next live interview.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm going to time stamp this. We

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Speaker 1: just had one today that was could you tell that

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Speaker 3: To cry a little bit at one point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was twice that I had tears in my

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Speaker 2: You're such a man, you should be willing to cry

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Speaker 1: what and how to RSVP. Please go to Sparkyreardon dot event,

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Speaker 1: Bright dot com, Sparkyreardon dot event, bright dot com. I

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