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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Hemor Territory Podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is episode three zero six. My name is Brad Rowland.

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Speaker 1: I'll coach you on a Sunday evening here in early December,

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined as I always am, by Scott Coleman. Scott,

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Speaker 1: the Winter Meetings are upon us, and in general that

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Speaker 1: means activity. We'll see about the Braves' activity, but activity

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Speaker 1: around the league. Nonetheless, how are you to see me?

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Speaker 2: Hello, Brad, I'm doing well and you're right, this is

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Speaker 2: an exciting time on the baseball calendar. We have seen

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Speaker 2: Alex Enthoplos do some work during the Winter Meetings, but

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Speaker 2: maybe this is not his bread and butter time of

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Speaker 2: the offseason. But every year is going to be different,

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Speaker 2: and hopefully in the next couple of days we get

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Speaker 2: a lot of activity, both for the Braves and around

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Speaker 2: the rest of Major League Baseball. I think as fans

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Speaker 2: of the game, we like to see a lot of

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Speaker 2: activity and movement, and it's been a decently fast offseason

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Speaker 2: so far. It's there have been worse first months of

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Speaker 2: the off season in recent years, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you are a harsh critic of that. What

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Speaker 1: it doesn't happen, which I think is right. I will

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Speaker 1: also say is I think I've seen you remind people

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Speaker 1: Stephen Has, Sean Has our colleagues on this podcast, like

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Speaker 1: a lot of business has to get done. Still, we're

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Speaker 1: probably like ten percent of the way if that, into

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Speaker 1: the off season so far. So the Braves have been

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Speaker 1: not even that clide. They actually made a big signing.

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Speaker 1: They just happened to be a guy that we already knew,

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Speaker 1: so it was not agree with the same amount of

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Speaker 1: excitement level that it might have been already. But a

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Speaker 1: lot to get to today. Nothing that's a huge lead topic,

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Speaker 1: but certainly some news and notes inklings around the Winter

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Speaker 1: Meetings are happening in Orlando. They began technically today as

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Speaker 1: records on the Sunday evening. They run officially through Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: but that is not exactly a firm time period, like

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Speaker 1: things could happen before and after, so it's not like

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Speaker 1: we have this window that could only do things in

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Speaker 1: But Alex, like you said, has done some stuff. But

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Speaker 1: I know, by the way we should say this. Our

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Speaker 1: colleague Sean Coleman interviewed Robert Murray, a fan sided and

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Speaker 1: Fould Territory just a few days ago, and that was

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Speaker 1: an awesome conversation. Shouts to Sean, shouts to Robert, and

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Speaker 1: a good prep for the winter meetings. Roberts are really

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Speaker 1: honestly awesome insider. There was a lot of people, There

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Speaker 1: was a lot of things, and I think it was

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Speaker 1: notable that he pointed to starting pitching for the Braves.

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Speaker 1: I listened, I recommend I'm gonna listen to that episode

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Speaker 1: for sure. But I think the quote was that reading

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Speaker 1: between the lines of what Alex said at the GM

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Speaker 1: meetings of what I've heard, this is what Robert was saying,

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Speaker 1: started pitching is absolutely a priority for Antopolis, is the

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Speaker 1: way he said It. Not a huge surprise to us,

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Speaker 1: I don't think, but just another kind of re I

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Speaker 1: don't know, rekindling of that reality. Basically, did you have

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Speaker 1: a response to anything that Robert said that was interesting

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Speaker 1: to use that That's the thing that was like jumping

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Speaker 1: out to me, is in his conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great conversation with Robert. I mean, honestly, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Jeff Passon is the news breaking king of baseball, but honestly, man,

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Speaker 2: Robert is right up there with everybody else. So check

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Speaker 2: out that interview and he's broken Braves news in the

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Speaker 2: past as well, so really great to have Robert on

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Speaker 2: the network. And you know, it's interesting Robert said that

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Speaker 2: pitching is a priority. Starting pitching is a priority for

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Speaker 2: Nthopolis and then today on Sunday, Anthopolis met with the

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Speaker 2: media contingency in Orlando at the Winter meetings. And I

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Speaker 2: don't want to say that he poured cold water on that,

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Speaker 2: and again, you should only take so much at face

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Speaker 2: value what a general manager says to media. But yes,

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Speaker 2: Alex poured a little bit of cold water on the

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Speaker 2: starting pitching thing because he said that Grant Holmes has

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Speaker 2: been progressing really well from his elbow surgery and they're

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Speaker 2: hopeful that he's going to be ready to roll in

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Speaker 2: some kind of a role, and it seems like they've

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Speaker 2: gotten good news on Rinaldo Lopez as well. I still

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Speaker 2: think this team needs a starting pitcher. I think you

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Speaker 2: do too, Brad. But yeah, I mean, we'll we'll see.

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Speaker 1: You and I we could go in the same time

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Speaker 1: the record. There's inklings. You can take things from from

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Speaker 1: what is said, you can rule things out potentially, you

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Speaker 1: first plub of comments pointed to, hey, we want to

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Speaker 1: address roundy pitching, like he kind of did say that

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Speaker 1: on the record a couple of weeks ago, a week

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Speaker 1: But treating Grant Holmes like he's back is a good thing.

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Speaker 1: That's another arm the Braves can have. It also does

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Speaker 1: not mean that he has ruled into the rotation automatically

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Speaker 1: as well, Like Granholmes has a long record of being

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Speaker 1: and he might just be a reliever. We'll see. So

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Speaker 1: The fact that you can have him as a starting

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Speaker 1: reasonably asure long man. That's cool. That does not mean

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Speaker 1: keep that in mind for everybody else. He did kind

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Speaker 1: of stress again that Johan Meenez is not to the

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Speaker 1: same part of the development curve return curve that Grenolmes is.

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Speaker 1: That's not new. He did say that earlier in the

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Speaker 1: last season. But they're not counting on him essentially until

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Speaker 1: he ramps up, and that's the right move. Like they're

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Speaker 1: paying him. He's owed money. He's been good for a

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Speaker 1: so I think having it's almost like to the side

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Speaker 1: just like, I hope we have him. He's good when

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Speaker 2: If it was like an organizational flow chart, I think

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Speaker 2: it would be like a dotted line to Joejamenez at

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Speaker 2: this point. And you know, I wonder as the Braves

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Speaker 2: to see Joejmenez throw a handful of bullpens and see

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Speaker 2: and if that knee is still causing problems, then, dear Lord,

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Speaker 2: I mean, then it becomes like even more critical they

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Speaker 2: I still think they need to go out and add

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Speaker 2: a lot of really fine middle relievers, both in the

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Speaker 2: Relievers are never cheap. And I think, especially if there's

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Speaker 2: any kind of question about Jimenez, the Braves are going

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Speaker 2: to have to do something with the bullbend. There's just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't truly know that as well. And you know,

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Speaker 1: One of them is that he expressed a preference, not

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Speaker 1: That's that's totally fine. But I think in a perfect

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Speaker 1: kind of mistaition. It's also worth making what he said

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Speaker 1: He didn't say we don't want another bat. He said

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Speaker 1: I think they need a bat and I've said that

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Speaker 1: mean it has to be more sol Zuna, Kyle Schwarber

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Speaker 1: surprised if Alex didn't want to add to the offense.

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Speaker 1: I saw people reading that in reading that into basically

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Speaker 1: like thinking, hey, it's going to be Baldwin Murphy and

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Speaker 1: a rotation Like maybe it will be, but that's not

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Speaker 1: what That's not what I said.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I mean we've we've talked about it

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Speaker 2: numerous times on the show, but adding an outfielder to

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Speaker 2: DH with with Akunya in profar would be terrific. Or

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Speaker 2: even if they don't want to add a traditional outfielder

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Speaker 2: but want to add like Ryan O'Hearn is a player

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Speaker 2: who I've been digging into quite a bit, could play

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Speaker 2: first base, although rarely, of course does Matt Alson need

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, It's not like a huge downgrade

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Speaker 1: from Profarance or whatever else. Last year was not the

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Speaker 1: anticipate the Twins moving centerfielder Byron Buxton or right handers

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Speaker 1: Joe Ryan Pablo Up as a quarry. Two league sources

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Speaker 1: briefed on their plans. I'm gonna go to you first

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Speaker 1: because you had a reaction to this that I think

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Speaker 1: I also shared. But what did you think when you

435
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Speaker 1: read that report from Ken?

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Speaker 2: So it could be entirely accurate. Maybe the Twins had

437
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Speaker 2: a come to Jesus meeting and said, you know what,

438
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Speaker 2: we've been bad. Instead of trading and starting a rebuild

439
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Speaker 2: that we probably need to do, we're going to try

440
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Speaker 2: for one more year and we're going to try to

441
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Speaker 2: add and figure this thing out. I mean, hell, a

442
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Speaker 2: year ago, there was an argument for the Toronto Blue

443
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Speaker 2: Jays to sell off some of their parts and the

444
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Speaker 2: game within five pitches of winning the World Series. I

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Speaker 2: don't think the Twins are to that level. And my

446
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Speaker 2: big reaction to Rosenthal's report that the Twins are going

447
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Speaker 2: to hang on to their players is, one, what else

448
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Speaker 2: are the Twins going to say from a negotiation standpoint?

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Speaker 2: And two if you just kind of add one and

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Speaker 2: one together, we talk about this Twins roster is not

451
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Speaker 2: very good. The team is in major financial debt. Lopez

452
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Speaker 2: and Ryan only have two years of control left, so

453
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Speaker 2: every day that ticks off a calendar, their value presumably

454
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Speaker 2: goes down a bit. And Byron Buxton, his trade value

455
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Speaker 2: is never been higher. He's coming off his healthiest season

456
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Speaker 2: in nearly a decade. Was awesome. All Star was a

457
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Speaker 2: I think a silver slugger like trading Byron Buxton now

458
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Speaker 2: is the epitome of selling high on a really talented player.

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Speaker 2: So sure, maybe again, maybe the Twins are going to

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Speaker 2: hang on here, But myriad is this is kind of

461
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Speaker 2: posturing and trying to get asking prices up, because guess

462
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Speaker 2: what if the Twins had an awesome offer for Byron

463
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Speaker 2: Buxton already, he'd probably be traded.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we totally agree, and this goes back a little

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Speaker 1: bit to what we said about Alex. Always try to

466
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Speaker 1: consider the other side, like what is the team trying

467
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Speaker 1: to cops with what they're saying. And Ken's really good.

468
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Speaker 1: He's not gonna just print something to print it like

469
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Speaker 1: he has good information, So they're trying to get that

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Speaker 1: out there. They're telling them things. But also they don't

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Speaker 1: have any incentive to say we're selling everybody, especially in

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Speaker 1: that remember before it came out like three days ago

473
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Speaker 1: in like early December, Like they're not gonna wave the

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Speaker 1: white flag and say, all right, guys, everything must go Barkin,

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Speaker 1: basic prices whatever.

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Speaker 2: That never happens in baseball, Like even the Cardinals kind

477
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Speaker 2: of did it a little bit, but even then they

478
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Speaker 2: were like, well, we're not just giving these guys away, right,

479
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Speaker 2: Never do you see I remember even a decade ago

480
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Speaker 2: when the Braves did their famous fire sale of Hayward

481
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Speaker 2: and Upton and Kimberl and like that was out of

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Speaker 2: the blue, right like the morning they traded Jason Hayward.

483
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Speaker 2: They weren't forecasting that. Why would you?

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Speaker 1: There were no leaks about that. Yeah, so both the

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Speaker 1: can be true. The twins may not trade these guys,

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Speaker 1: and I think that is very possible, maybe even likely.

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Speaker 1: But this is not slam the door on that either.

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Speaker 1: Like they they should get this point, even if they're

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Speaker 1: even if they were planning on trading Byron Buston, Joe

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Speaker 1: Ryan Babolpez, any competation of the three, they should come

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Speaker 1: out and say what they said.

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Speaker 2: Okay, of course. So yeah, by the way, you're in

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Speaker 2: a truck. Yeah, if you're selling a truck for for

494
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Speaker 2: ten thousand, when you meet the guy who's interested in

495
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Speaker 2: your truck, you don't walk up and go, Brad, I'll

496
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Speaker 2: say this truck right now for sixty five hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: Please say yeah, of course not. You go, well, I'm

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Speaker 2: pretty firm at ten thousand. Maybe I'll go to like

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Speaker 2: ninety five. Maybe in your mind you'll sell it for eight,

500
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Speaker 2: but you don't that's that is the worst possible negotiation.

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Speaker 1: I agree, if you want more. By the way, Sean

502
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Speaker 1: Steven had a very lengthy chat about Brian Buckston on

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Speaker 1: this podcast last week, so listen to that.

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Speaker 2: A lot of nuance in that one.

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Speaker 1: Good a good chat. I agree with most of what

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Speaker 1: I heard from the two of them. Interesting topic, for sure,

507
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Speaker 1: it's not it's not clearcut Byron Buston has injury issues

508
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But you're right. He I just checked.

509
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Speaker 1: He finished eleventh in MVP voting in the American League

510
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Speaker 1: this year. He was really, really good and when he's

511
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Speaker 1: healthy is awesome. And we'll see if they if they

512
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Speaker 1: if they trade him. The Braves are a very logical

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Speaker 1: team to get in the mix. We don't know if

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do that or not. He's from not Atlanta,

515
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Speaker 1: but he's from Georgia, et cetera. Last thing on the

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Speaker 1: intel reporting front mark fiensintl dot com lump the Braves

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Speaker 1: in as a team that is quote also looking at

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Speaker 1: Zach Gallen, Arizo Diamondback's right hander. There was also an

519
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Speaker 1: interesting news cycle was Zach Gallen the other day where

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Speaker 1: Bob Night and Gil reported and then didn't report on

521
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Speaker 1: Gallon going to the Cubs. It was interesting. Jeff Passett

522
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Speaker 1: came in on the top of that. Look it up

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Speaker 1: if you want to. But also foul territory, as Jim

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Speaker 1: Bowden wrote a piece of The Athletic with twelve for

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Speaker 1: agent signings that he'd like to see happen again. He'd

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Speaker 1: like to see. So it wasn't reporting this, but he

527
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Speaker 1: actually gave Gallon to the Braves at five years and

528
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Speaker 1: one thirty five and people were not very happy with

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Speaker 1: that when they saw that. So I throw a lot

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Speaker 1: of a lot of you there, Scott, But Zach Gallan

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Speaker 1: and it's back in the news. We discussed him a

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Speaker 1: week ago. Anything you like to add to any of that.

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Speaker 2: You know, we talked about Zach Gallen quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: I'll summarize it, but he is not my preferred option

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Speaker 2: on the free agent market. Assuming he's getting similar money

536
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Speaker 2: to Rangers Warrez and Michael King, I think I'd prefer

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Speaker 2: those other two to Gallen. He is. There are some

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Speaker 2: reasons to think Gallen might be able to bounce back,

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Speaker 2: but if it's anywhere near five years and one hundred

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Speaker 2: and thirty five million dollars, I mean that would be

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Speaker 2: that's pretty rich, too rich for my blood, But I sure,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's always interesting when you see the Braves

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Speaker 2: connected with a top ten, top twelve free agent this offseason.

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Speaker 1: As a reminder, if you missed our show last week

545
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Speaker 1: or just haven't remember this, these numbers, Gallen is projected

546
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Speaker 1: by the three major projection systems Eleitrey, Rumors, Fangrafts, ESPN

547
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Speaker 1: for between eighteen and twenty million dollars a year for

548
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Speaker 1: between two and four years. The biggest deal he was

549
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Speaker 1: producted for was four for eighty one. Five is a

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Speaker 1: considerably larger investment than even the top of the projections.

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Speaker 1: And again, there's sometimes wrong occasionally guys, well, could we'll

552
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Speaker 1: just get a lot more than the projections. We don't

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Speaker 1: know these guys are. They're not soothsayers, but we were.

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Speaker 1: You and I were wavering at four eighty five. One

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Speaker 1: thirty five would be and would be a no go

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Speaker 1: for me, even though it's not my money and I

557
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to put myself in the true serum mode

558
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Speaker 1: of Okay, the Braves. Tomorrow it's announced that they give

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Speaker 1: him five for one thirty five. What is my reaction?

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Speaker 1: I think my reaction would be all right. The Braves

561
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Speaker 1: are better than they were yesterday, and that deal was

562
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Speaker 1: more than I would have wanted to spend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it'd be fair to say that's a

564
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Speaker 2: bad contract.

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Speaker 1: I yeah, I don't think I would not have given

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Speaker 1: that contract. So we'll see. If I had to guess,

567
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Speaker 1: that's a deal that Alex won't give to Zach goin.

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Speaker 1: If they're ever gonna do that, you could probably get

569
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Speaker 1: Ragers Farez for that. And I think Ragers Swarez is

570
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: better than that goin, So we'll see. Anyway, that's the

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Speaker 1: latest thing we're looking for. Intel, We're looking for sports rumors.

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Speaker 1: As Robert Murray just guess, no one believes us for

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Speaker 1: some reason. Robert Murray, a National Baseball writer and reporter,

574
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: was basically like, the Braves never leak anything, and they don't.

575
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: They're really hard to report on. It makes our lives

576
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult than other teams that have

577
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: a constant flow of rumors to discuss. But that's what

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Speaker 1: we have so far. Zach Gallen stuff, Hassan Kim stuff,

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Speaker 1: twins buzz. We'll leave it there for now. Scott is

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Speaker 1: more to talk about in a second, including a brief

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and I do be brief because we

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Speaker 1: don't talk about a Hall of Fame a lot that

583
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Speaker 1: much on this podcast. That's coming up in a second,

584
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Speaker 1: plus a transaction wave, lots of transactions. Are they big names? No,

585
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Speaker 1: but we'll talk about them and more after work for Repartners, Okay, Scott. Unfortunately,

586
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Speaker 1: Dale Murphy did not make the Hall of Fame that

587
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Speaker 1: broke as we were starting to this podcast. If you

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00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: were not following this story closely, the Contemporary Era Committee

589
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: met and voted only on Jeff Kent, making it so

590
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Speaker 1: Murphy did not near to Don Mattingly or others. We

591
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Speaker 1: don't cover the Hall of Fame breathlessly on the show

592
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Speaker 1: on purpose. It's not really any of our things. But

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see Murphy get in.

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Speaker 2: It'd be fun.

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Speaker 1: He's a legendary, brave, a guy that everybody looks. That's

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Speaker 1: kind of all I have. Like, it's unfortunate. I actually

597
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Speaker 1: should I should know this. Do you know if he's

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Speaker 1: if he's eligible again. I think he's still eligible. It's

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Speaker 1: like it's overframe, right.

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Speaker 2: I think he's still eligible. And then fran of the show,

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Speaker 2: Grant McCauley reported, tonight that Murphy only received six of

602
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Speaker 2: the twelve votes, So that's not great for Murph. I

603
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Speaker 2: know there are a ton of Braves fans who rightfully

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Speaker 2: hope that Dale Murphy gets in one day. Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame requirements have dropped significantly over the last few years

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Speaker 2: as the eras have changed and just kind of the

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00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: the way that baseball has played has changed. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: not great for Murph tonight, But yeah, I think he's

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Speaker 2: The contemporary vote is different than like the traditional vote

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Speaker 2: and all that, But I think Murph still has a chance.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty six, he.

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Speaker 1: Had unquestionably a Hall of Fame peak. It's that the

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Speaker 1: longevity and the accounting stats are not quite where they

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Speaker 1: always and that's an argument we're not gonna have tonight.

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Speaker 1: There's the always the peak versus longevity argument with Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. This is a two time MVP, like Delburvihy

617
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: was a great, great, great player, and unfortunately he's fallen shorts,

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Speaker 1: but more hopefully more opportunities for deal in the future.

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Speaker 1: And we'll leave that to our willing and able colleagues

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Speaker 1: to discuss that further, including by the way, grants of

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Speaker 1: great work on this for a long time. He's He's

622
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Speaker 1: interviewed market multiple times. Read Grant always Grant sauce the

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Speaker 1: aforementioned transaction wave from the other day. For the Braves,

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Speaker 1: we know this is these are not big name This

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Speaker 1: is why this is the thirty minute mark of this

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Speaker 1: podcast and not earlier. But the Raves did. They claimed

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Speaker 1: two guys off waivers and then reportedly agreed to a

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Speaker 1: minor league deal with a guy that I knew. So

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Speaker 1: that's that's something. Probably the biggest one is that they

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Speaker 1: claimed Oswaldo Bido off waivers from the A's. He's thirty

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Speaker 1: years old, right hander. He was pretty bad last year,

632
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Speaker 1: say that out loud, but he actually was legitimately good

633
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Speaker 1: at twenty twenty four and like not fake good, like

634
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Speaker 1: under the hood good stack cast good stuff plus good,

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Speaker 1: like he was actually good a year and a half ago.

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Speaker 1: That's the That's the something. That point for me is like, Alex,

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Speaker 1: if they can get him back to where he was

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Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, you got something. That's

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Speaker 1: my only reaction to that.

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Speaker 2: There seems to be a common trend with these very

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Speaker 2: back end of the forty man roster relievers that Alex

642
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Speaker 2: and thopless in the front office will target is that

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00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: maybe they're coming off bad years and that's why they're available.

644
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Speaker 2: But as recently as a year or two or three ago,

645
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: they were good and that's I mean, that was kind

646
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: of like with Yoel Piomps. That was probably why they

647
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: invested in him, even at a higher level than us

648
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: of all though Bido. Look, man, if they boot Beto

649
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: off the forty men roster in the next couple of months,

650
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: nobody will be shocked. If he shows up to spring

651
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Speaker 2: training and is one of the on March tenth, nobody

652
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: will be shocked. But sure, I mean, there's no harm

653
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: in shuffling the back of your forty man roster for

654
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Speaker 2: players you think might be a little bit better than

655
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: what you currently have. And if not, no harm, no foul.

656
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: I mean, the reaction to these is crazy to me.

657
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: Every team does this. Every team cycles the back end

658
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: of their rosters. You're looking for your Tyler Matzik, you're

659
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: looking for your Grant Holmes, right like, players who probably

660
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: weren't going to make the team, but then you find

661
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: something and they end up being really valuable pieces.

662
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what leads to the bargain beIN Alex quote

663
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: that you referenced earlier. This is normal activity, guys. If

664
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Speaker 1: this is all they do, then sure get mad about it.

665
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: We poked plenty of fun at Brian Day La Cruz

666
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: last winter. It's the whole show about it because it

667
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: was that slow at that point in time. But beto again,

668
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: I'll look at sackas page right now for twenty twenty four.

669
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of bright red on this page, like

670
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: he was legitimately good a year and a half ago.

671
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Speaker 1: So that's the one that if I'm ranking these importance,

672
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: That's why we do this one first. That one might matter.

673
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: It might not, though to your point in a month,

674
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: if he's on a team anymore, that will not be

675
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: a surprise. It's just that if you find something, you

676
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: find something. If you don't, you don't. We'll see. They

677
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 1: also claimed Anthony Molina, a twenty three year old right

678
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: handed off waivers from the Rockies, might one and only

679
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: take right now on the podcast is that the Braves

680
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: like to mine the Rockies. Because I think Alex wouldn't

681
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: say this. He's not saying this. I'm saying it. I

682
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: think there's probably believe that the front office the Rockies

683
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: are not well run, and they might be able to

684
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Speaker 1: find someone that the Rockies can't fix and fix them.

685
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, just my guess, why not take a chance hears

686
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: Johnson Tyler Kinley two examples. Yeah, the Rockies are terribly run,

687
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: they don't develop anybody. Sure, take a chance. And if

688
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: if the same thing I just said for Ozavaldo Bido, Yeah, if.

689
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: You without with not the Knight's numbers. Like to be fair,

690
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: he's a lot younger. Molina has never been good in

691
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: the majors, but he's twenty three and he's a former

692
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: Rule five guy, like he has some pedigree. He's never

693
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: been good in the way that Beato had, which is

694
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: why he's next on the list. But same principle applies

695
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: for sure, I would say the last one. On the

696
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: addition side, they reportedly agree to a minor league deal

697
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: with Ben Gamble. If you're a baseball guy, you probably

698
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: have heard him at some point. He's thirty three years

699
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: old now kind of a depth outfielder. Lefty was like

700
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: a good third fourth outfielder for several seasons. Now he's

701
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: probably the organizational depth. If I had to guess, like

702
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: he'll be in Gwinnett maybe you get an injury or

703
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: something like that, and he's on your team for two weeks.

704
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Speaker 1: I think Eli White is better than Ben Gamble in

705
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, so oh yeah, he's That's kind of

706
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: like Eli White's probably your fourth guy right now on

707
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: the outfield. Ben Gamble is your fifth guy, which means

708
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: he's probably in Gwinnette. But another guy that people he's

709
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: a maaguor league quality player. That's what I would say,

710
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: not a great one, but a major leaguer.

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00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: Every spring, the Braves are going to bring ten, fifteen

712
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: to twenty of these kind of veterans without really a

713
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 2: place to play, and you give him a tryout and

714
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the time it leads to nothing.

715
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Speaker 2: And I'm sure Gamble will get a couple of a

716
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Speaker 2: bats on the you know, February twenty eighth spring training

717
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: game in the afternoon, and who knows, every now and

718
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: then there's a great story and he'll he'll put together

719
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: a really good spring. But I'm guessing if you go

720
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: to Gwinnett Stripper's games, you might see some Ben Gamble

721
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: this upcoming year, or he'll just get cut, like most

722
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: of these types of signings get cut in the spring and.

723
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Speaker 1: The last one is the Braves dfaid Josh Walker. So

724
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: in the last month, November sixth, Walker was dfaid by

725
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: the Orioles. Then on November thirteenth, the Braves planing them

726
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: off waivers. Then three weeks later they did a Josh Walker.

727
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: So that was the cycle. Normal again, normal activity, take

728
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: of whatever the flat. We don't know why they claimed

729
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: him in the first place. We don't know. We don't

730
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: know why they're doing this now other than forty man space.

731
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Speaker 1: But they just prioritize somebody else over Josh Walker. Sad

732
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: enough to satisfy that great okay, moving right along. Last

733
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: thing on the show, barring another Dale Murphy Hall of

734
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Speaker 1: Fame news nugget the drafts water recording is that the

735
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Speaker 1: draft Lottery is on Tuesday, and this might be our

736
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: last show before Tuesday. We don't know. If something happens tomorrow,

737
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: we'll do it. We'll do a show. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: five point thirty pm Eastern is the Draft Lottery. What

739
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: an odd time to do that. Typical baseball do a

740
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: reasonably big event at a weird time. Yet Scott zips himself.

741
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: If you're not watching this on YouTube, But the big

742
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: thing is, as long as we've been doing the show,

743
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: we've not covered a lot of lotteries because in fact,

744
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: the format changed and the Braves been good basically ever since.

745
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,959
Speaker 1: So the Braves have a four point five to four

746
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: percent chance to pick number one in the draft, that

747
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: is number six on the odds. And also it's not

748
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: just about picking number one. You want to pick as

749
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: high as possible to get a the pick, but also

750
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: the extra bonus pool money when you talk to Carlos

751
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: Colazo or old friend on the show. That was a

752
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: good primer for this as well. But we'll react to

753
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: it when it's over. But the big thing is, hey,

754
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: Tuesday evening is when we find out where the Breds

755
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: are picking, and we obviously hope it's number one. That'd

756
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: be awesome. But two's better than three, three is better

757
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: than four, et cetera. Anything you want to add about

758
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: the draft lottery.

759
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: A couple thoughts. I mean, number one, it is a bummer.

760
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: And it's funny to say this, but it is a bummer.

761
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: The Braves won so many games in September because I

762
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: think they were like two games away from having the

763
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 2: third or fourth best odds, which is, which is a shame.

764
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: At one point they think they were number two. I

765
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: don't know if they never were number one. I don't

766
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: think they ever jumped the pirates. But as a reminder,

767
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: they won. It was ten straight right, they won ten

768
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: straight games. It's a tough course, ten straight games. I

769
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: think we did a pot Yeah, I think we did

770
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: a podcast quite literally titled the Braves are winning, of course,

771
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: But yes, draft lottery a foreign concept to Braves fans.

772
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 2: But as Brad said, four and a half percent chance

773
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 2: the number one pick, which is sixth best odds Baseball

774
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: does a weird lottery. It would probably make no sense

775
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: for me to explain the ins and outs of how

776
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: it's done, but basically, the lottery picks the top six teams.

777
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: The Braves have close to a fifty percent chance of

778
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: being in the top six, and then I think they

779
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 2: run the numbers again. It is a very overly complex

780
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: system for how it works, but obviously you want as

781
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: high of a pick as you can and man alive.

782
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: Brad if there was ever a draft lottery for the

783
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,959
Speaker 2: Braves to strike gold and move up to the number

784
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: one pick. MLB Pipeline talked about their top one hundred

785
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: draft prospects and the number one projected pick is Rock Chilawski,

786
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 2: a shortstop from UCLA. And in that MLB Pipeline scouting

787
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: report on Schilawski, they said, quote he is considered by

788
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: some to be the best all around college shortstop prospect

789
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: since Troy Tulowitzki in the two thousand and five draft.

790
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 2: Crush your fingers. That would be a look, man, the draft.

791
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 2: It's unpredictable. These there are no sure things other than

792
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: like your Paul Stein's or your Bryce Harper's. There are

793
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: so few guarantees in the draft. But if there was

794
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 2: every year for the Braves to move up to number

795
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: one getting a maybe I think the word generational gets

796
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: thrown around too much, but maybe a generational type of

797
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: shortstop prospect to take number one when this team has

798
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: had an enormous black hole there since Dansby Swanson left

799
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 2: would be huge. I mean, you don't want to undert

800
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: that this is not taking an eighteen year old high

801
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: school pitcher. I mean this is someone who you draft

802
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 2: in July and maybe you could see him in Atlanta

803
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: a year later.

804
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And of course we'll talk about a lot of

805
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: the options when we know what the lottery says, again,

806
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: it's a four and a half percent chance. Yeah, that

807
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: isn't a very high chance. The math will tell you

808
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: they're not picking number one very often, but hey, maybe

809
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: they will be. But the good thing is they're going

810
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: to have a lot more bonus money to spend this

811
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: draft and they usually have to poke up with the

812
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: frot system a little bit. Carlos express, but I think

813
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: nationally is not. No one is super impressed by the

814
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: brat frontis. There's there's variations of that. It's not a

815
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: disaster of a system, but it's not an elite one.

816
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: I think we can all agree on that. So beefing

817
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: it up a little bit would be helpful. And this

818
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: is one step, one step towards doing that. So we

819
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: will see. And uh, you know, the gap between number

820
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: one number six is what three and a half million

821
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: in bus money. It's what you said, that's a lot

822
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Speaker 1: of money. Man Like, it would be helpful if they

823
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: were higher than lower, and we will react to that

824
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: when it comes. And just to say it's out loud,

825
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: it is. We're not going to suddenly cover the draft

826
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 1: every show for seven months like the Baseball The Baseball

827
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: draft is not that kind of thing. Like I cover basketball,

828
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: as people probably know, it's a giant topic throughout the

829
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: season in the NBA when it's a good draft, people

830
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: talk about the number one pick in the draft if

831
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Speaker 1: it's a famous player every day, like Victor woman Yama,

832
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: who's a famous was a story for a year and

833
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: a half before he was drafted. Baseball is not quite

834
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: like that, even when it was Harper schemes. It's a

835
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: big deal if you're a sicko. It's not an everyday

836
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: topic in the way, and especially in baseball because of

837
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Speaker 1: what you just said. No matter even if the if

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Speaker 1: the Braves won the lottery and they drafted roch Alowski,

839
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Speaker 1: it still would not be He's coming up the day

840
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: he's drafted, and it's gonna start shortstop like it's gonna

841
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: take a while, and it's baseball, so but it still matters.

842
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: So both things are play in play here. We have

843
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: pretty much ignored the draft on this show other than

844
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: right around the draft every year. We won't If they

845
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: win it, it'll be a bigger topic both this week

846
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: and then again later on in the spring, et cetera.

847
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: If they have their more pick.

848
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: In the draft.

849
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Speaker 1: But that's the one small upside of being bad is

850
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: that you draft hire.

851
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: So it's nice and hopefully this is a rare occurrence

852
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 2: for the Braves. Let's get a top pick, even if

853
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: it's not one move up to the top three, the

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Speaker 2: top five. Every time you move up it's worth anywhere

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Speaker 2: from five hundred thousand to seven hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 2: in slot pull money, which is a big deal. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that can be the difference between swaying a high level

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Speaker 2: will college commit to going pro instead of going to college.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, crosh your fingers again five point thirty on

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Speaker 2: Tuesday evening, and we will whenever we do a show

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Speaker 2: after that, we will certainly talk about it then. And

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Speaker 2: you know, let's help crush your fingers and let's get

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Speaker 2: a top pick. Would be a huge boost to this

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Speaker 2: franchise and organization to make the most out of just

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Speaker 2: a miserable twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 1: I should have asked Carlos I he was going to

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Speaker 1: be doing any TV, because you know, he's always on

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Speaker 1: the draft the actual night of the draft. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure about the lottery, but listen to the show that

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Speaker 1: you did with Carlos Closet that was a good listen

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Speaker 1: a week plus ago at this point during the takestgiving week.

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Speaker 1: It also applies right now. Nothing has changed on that front,

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Speaker 1: so Evergreen at least for now episode Scott, we have

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Speaker 1: done it. We have kept things under an hour this time.

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Speaker 1: Our show last week was seventy minutes long. That was

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Speaker 1: probably a little bit too longing for us. So we're

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Speaker 1: getting out right now at forty two minutes. Anything to

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Speaker 1: plug at the end of the show if not, wor

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Speaker 1: can folks find you on social media? They're looking for you.

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Speaker 2: I am at Scott Coleman fifty five on Twitter slash x.

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Speaker 2: And as we said, we'll have plenty of content from

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Speaker 2: the Winter meetings, any kind of transaction, even like hot rumors,

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Speaker 2: which I know are few and far between for the Braves.

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Speaker 2: But if we get real news or rumors or anything

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Speaker 2: that's worth talking about, I promise you we will have

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Speaker 2: plenty of coverage this week and then all throughout the

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Speaker 2: off season. We of course do not go away, and

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