WEBVTT - Episode 430 w/ Ed Lover 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:15.480 He is Drinks Chants, Motherfucker podcast Make SI He's a 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:18.239 legends every Queens rapper. He ain't agreed as your boy 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.040 in O r E. He's a Miami hip hop mionneer. 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:22.720 What Up as dj E f N? 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.720 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players, 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:26.720 you know what I mean, and the. 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:31.160 Most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source for 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:32.400 drunk drink chans. 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:36.000 Mother post d is new year CST. It's time for 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:36.960 drink Champions. 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:38.360 Drink up, motherfucker. 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:44.440 Mother? Would it gonna be hoping to? You? 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:46.159 Said me as your boy in O R E? What 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.800 Up is dj E f N? And it's drink chance, motherfucker. 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:49.559 You have to be man. 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:56.720 And when we started this show, we said we wanted 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.680 to give flowers to brothers who who came before us, 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.400 who the wait for us. Literally, if it wasn't because 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.959 of this man doing what he did, being the personality 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:09.000 that he was, we probably wouldn't be here. 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:10.120 That's right. 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.039 We heard he started as an artist, then heard who 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.800 Jay and said that's not it. I'm gonna find another profession. 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:19.920 And he found another profession. He was one of the 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:25.760 first people in hip hop that was multitasking, meaning having movies, radio, 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:30.240 and television back then when that was unheard of early. 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:35.280 He's a legend, legend of icon or icon, your favorite 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:40.280 Rapper's favorite rapper has a story with him, and it's 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:43.399 final to the day to give him his flowers, to 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:47.480 tell him how much he means to our community, our culture, 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:48.880 our society. 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:50.440 In case you don't know what we're talking about, what 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:51.120 your mother want to know? 0:01:51.200 --> 0:02:05.120 The motherfucker? That's right. 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:10.480 I'm like to go now, now, do we got the. 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:14.640 Language? 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:15.840 He's easy? 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.120 I was just saying, man, do you have the easy 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:22.079 eclip signed up? Look, there's two part questions. I want 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:23.600 to show you got the easy clips signed up? 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:24.880 I mean, you ain't got the show to me show 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:28.680 to him now, but we want to see your reaction. 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:34.720 I'm going to number one video on the conference. 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:40.840 Man, Okay, I can't say I tell them what we have? 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:45.160 What what's up. 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:48.360 Now? 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.639 You actually it says it labels it as a love 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:54.919 of smacks easy Heat. 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.400 Well, there's different different versions of that video with different 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.000 different titles, but that's what that's what is labeled ass. 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.519 But then when you watched the footage, you actually put 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.280 it in your hands that's what we used to call 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:07.480 back in the day, is a mush. 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:14.519 Yeah, the smash. This is something that I'm quite sure 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:15.360 he's going to bring it up. 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:15.880 Nothing. 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.560 Me and stretched from lock each other all the time, 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.000 each other in the smash, like what you gotta. We 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.359 even put our hands in each others pockets, take ship 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.520 and throw it on the ground, just putting each other 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:27.120 in the smash. 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.880 I was talking with Easy, Easy, I just put the 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:31.880 nigga in the smash. But y'all, y'all already had that 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:32.919 kind of rapport with each other. 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.200 Yeah, don't understand. 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.880 He was. Easy was the coolest thigga man ever. Bro Like. 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.520 I remember one time we went and and we did 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.920 uh n w A in l A and we was 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.280 out and Compton by Compton swamped me. I had the 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:52.280 dead wrong ass color on for that nigga, dead wrong 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.280 pick up. I was freddy with them. When we got 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.240 out to go into Compton Swamp Meet to shoot. Easy 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.280 was like, yo, you got to sit in the car. Man, 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.120 send the car for a minute. And he went in 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:05.080 and he got me a black wind breaker. He got 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:06.760 me a black braid. That's hatting a black. You got 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:08.880 your neutral, you got me right. You got me neutral 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.040 because he was like the O g got to do 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.480 it to you. You're from the young ron niggas trying 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.840 to get a rep. So he got me right. So yeah, 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.039 Easy shit was crazy. So it's two things you asked 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.200 me what you answered. One of the part is did 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.120 you have a rapport before that? But then the other 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.920 part was he whispered something into your ear? And everyone 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.680 always wonders because y'all go into the video after that, right, well, 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.120 everyone always wonders what was exactly did he. 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:32.840 Whisper in your ear? 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:34.839 And everybody gonna have to wait for that fucking bullet. 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.200 That is one of the young bro That is one 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:42.440 of the biggest questions I ever get in my life. 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:46.880 You see people on the thread he he disrespected. He 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:51.159 said some foul shit about shooting, and Easy was a businessman. 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.080 Eaz knows if he'd have said some foul shit to me, 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.520 he would have never got another video played on MTV. 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.320 And by the way, it couldn't have been too crazy 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:00.640 because it's still got And. 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:04.760 Remember he had the pool. He used to have the 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:10.599 pool party, which was fucking debauchery, nigga, The Easy pool parties, 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:20.080 the Bachery easy easy pool parties and we'll get to 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:23.200 that too. Easy pool parties was like what Luke was 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.640 smart enough to do. Luke used to when we used 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:27.640 to come to Miami with Luke. Luke would bring all 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.960 the program directors, all the radio dudes all night and 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.200 then bringing all the strippers and pay for everything. So 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.400 when you left from Miami, you was like ship that 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.800 nigga Luke. You always remember that Luke took care of you. 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.080 So when you got back, like we was gonna play 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.560 you on TV rets We was playing move something because 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.120 Luke makes sure something move when we're done in Miami. 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.599 So we was playing that ship. Bro Easy was doing 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:53.080 the same ship. He was just doing the same ship. 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.120 He had the pool party, went and wild and girls 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:58.520 all over the place, Lika drains weed, whatever the fuck 0:05:58.600 --> 0:05:59.000 you wanted. 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:00.160 He was doing the same ship. It. 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.599 Wow, that was marketing. What do you think life would 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.240 have been like if Instagram was back then? 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:06.000 Ship? 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.240 First of all, I'd have been fucking super wealthy because 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.960 I probably had two hundred three hundred million followers world 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.679 right easy, so I could have leveraged that corporately somehow, 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.760 some way. But shit, Instagram then we'd all been fucked 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.040 up for a lot of the ship that we was doing. 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:23.240 We've all been fucked up. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:27.120 I've probably never been married if we had. 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:28.600 Now. 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.320 I heard you say in the very beginning, like you 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:33.840 really were it really wasn't about money. I don't remember 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:35.680 if you said you wasn't making money or really wasn't 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:36.360 about money. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.680 You were saying you did it for the love. I 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.599 would have did it for free, wow, honestly, because that's 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.640 how much I love hip hop. That's how much I 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:45.920 wanted to be a part of it. That's how much 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.640 I really wanted to get myself involved in it. Like 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.440 I've said on many interviews, I heard ll rhyme and 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.640 then I figured I was the MC after that, right, well, 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:57.279 just two nights and too young, yeah, fifteen. He was 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.400 nice like and I was like, well on in them. 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.440 They from my way. So we used to all rhyme. 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.080 I was back when I was Eddie D. Everybody had 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:06.240 a D on their name. I don't even know what 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:11.600 the fuck the D was, you know, and running them 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.480 would come in the park and you know, we rhyme 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.480 would ron and and D come out. You know, D 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.000 always had rhymes. So that was back then. But when 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.920 I heard this young fifteen year old kid from Farmers Boulevard, Bro, 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.760 I was like, nah, I can't. I can't even make 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:29.240 records like that, delivery, his wordplay, everything. So I had 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.720 to try to figure another way into this Himpi and 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:33.080 it was your TV raps Bro. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.000 So let me ask you because at that time, it 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:39.520 was really just about being the DJ or the MC. 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.320 It really wasn't about being a VJ. You know, although 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:43.680 we had Ralph before. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.000 That, right, the d Boys and the graffiti artist as well. 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:47.760 Know what I'm saying is, listen, let me get to 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.040 the point I was trying to make. Was like, other 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.840 than Ralph, I didn't see too many vj's, right, So 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:56.600 what made you and Dre like even one to to 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.200 explore that? It was first? 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.400 Okay average first, And when I saw that I saw 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.520 the name Ted Demi on that Ted Demi was a 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:11.680 dude that I knew from church. Wow, not from Queens. No, 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:16.840 he's from Rockville. Uh, he's from Long Island. Okay, wow, yeah, 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.200 he's right there, Rockville Center. That's where you're from, Rockville Center. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.720 So Ted Demi is a pisk compellion. His parents. My 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:27.640 best friend Kurt Flirt. Shout out Kurt Flirt. His uketarian 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:37.120 is episcapellion PRIs copal a pist compellion. So they would 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.840 have the fellowship ship and they were going to retreats 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.839 and kurt moms always like, bring Ed, you know, keep 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:44.920 Kurt out of trouble, but youn't know that was more trouble. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.520 And then we met the little white guy from Rockville 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.520 no Long Island and uh Rockville Center, and that motherfucker 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.520 just knew hip hop and he loved the music and 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.480 he knew all of this ship about us, and that 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.079 was Ted. So we kept in touch all through high school. 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.079 We used to take our block from our block to 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:01.679 go to the rock Felle Center to play Ted and 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.960 his friends, and then he bring his friends to us, 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.520 and then we stayed with them all through college and everything. 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:08.680 And I saw that name on them credits and I 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:10.360 was like, what does Ted have to do with your 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:10.720 on TV? 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:11.560 Rats, Oh. 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:17.720 Plug, I'm gonna tell you. I was doing a documentary 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:21.720 called What What and When when Chris Lightdy saw it, 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:23.400 Chris Ldy said, I need you to meet this. 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:27.600 Guy in LA and his name was Ted. Dimmy I 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:28.439 had that I didn't know. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.440 I didn't know, Ted Dimmy, Ted did your TV bath 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:35.560 at the time, Ted Dimney, they make us wait, we're 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:39.800 on a ping pong playing ping pong. Ted Dimmy comes 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.520 out with a guy who looks like Johnny Depp and 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:47.240 he just throws fucking cocaine on the table. And then 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:48.720 Johnny Depp just sniffed the ship. 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:54.440 Not Johnny Depp, the guy looks like him. He me out. 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:56.920 So we're all this is like two way days. We're 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.800 all like, yo, we texted each other in the same. 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.800 Room, like, yo, did you see what I seen? Come 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.280 to find out it was Johnny Depp? It was fake cocaine. 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.400 They was promoting the movie Blow, Yo. 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.320 But this this is there, was like should we use 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.079 this as a promotional item? And that's what I knew. 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:16.079 Ted was out of his fucking mind. Ted didn't blow 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:18.080 did the movie blo. 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:24.400 Directed? That directed the movie Blow? Ted directed the movie 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:28.079 Life with Eddie mur Yes, Yes, yeah that's Ted did 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:28.679 Who's the man? 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:30.800 Who's the man? Ted? Who's the man? 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.080 So what made you stick with him? Because all right, cool, 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.680 you on TV blowing up? You have your chance to 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.600 do your own movie, But don't cut through every day. 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.000 I want to know when you connect with him and 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.520 how you he actually gets it. So I started get 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:44.400 to your TV right, So I started. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.520 I saw Ted's name, I got the number. I started 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.000 calling him. I'm like, Ted, you gotta get me on 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:50.400 this show. 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:50.640 Man. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.440 I know hip hop like nobody else know what. I'm 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.360 in love with it. It's my thing. He's like, we 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.680 already got FAB. I was like, well, you know, hip 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.760 hop touches everything and make everything dope. Let me come 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:02.320 on and do a record report, let me do a 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.559 movie review, let me do something. And then they decided 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.000 they wanted to do a daily show because the show 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:08.679 had blown up. 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:10.840 The show the show actually blew. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.719 Up with Ronde and Willingham did the pilot for it 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.760 from their tour. That's what really set the whole ship off. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.040 Then they hired Fab. You know, Fad was downtown. You 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.719 know Deborah Harry. Everybody loved Fab. Debora Harry had Fab five. 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.640 Freddy told me that is my wife. I knew the 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:25.880 only person that was gonna come through. 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:28.040 Fab five. 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.360 Freddy told me everybody fly DJ Smith, so Fab was on. 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:32.120 He was on. 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.560 He was a graph artist, the ambassador hip hop at 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.400 the time. Absolutely and him and Box Scout is like this, 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:39.839 like there's so much layers the Fab that people don't 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.280 know about. And then Fab didn't want to do the 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.880 Daily Show because he was also directing. He had did 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.360 like I think he did self destruction. I think he 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.840 did care Rust One videos. He did a lot of videos, 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.400 so he was directing too, so he did not want 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.640 to do it. So they had to find somebody to 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.880 do the Daily Show. Peter Dougherty, who was the executive producer, 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.280 knew Dre from Dre being a tour d J for 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:01.160 the Beastie Boys. 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:08.319 Ted knew me. I did not know Drake before DJ yeah. 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:13.200 For the Beaci Boys before Hurricane. Yeah, so you know Dre, 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:15.599 Dre and T Money also co wrote I'm Proud to 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.280 Be Black from run DMC off the Region. You know, 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:19.960 he was signed to Death Jam. They had their group. 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.199 They signed the Death Jam knowledge me. I mean that 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.679 was them way before I even knew dra We just 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:26.400 did it over when we did the backup off me 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:30.280 out Ah, my wife is killing me geez. Okay, So 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:35.520 we did that and uh Ted saw it. He saw 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:39.439 Laurel and Hardy. He Dre had already auditioned went back 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.719 and was talking to Peter and Peter's office upstairs. 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.720 I'm in there with Ted and he putting me on tape. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.600 And then Ted called Peter and was like, is doctor 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.199 Dre still in and Dre he was like yeh, I said, 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:51.920 send them to my office and he come down. He said, 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.440 I'm gonna put y'all on tape together. And I remember 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.800 asking Drake. Ted had just come back from Jamaica something. 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.200 He had the Dreadlock wigs in there, and I was like, Dre, 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.040 do you can you speak pats Wild Like He's like, no, 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:04.160 my father's Jamaican. 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:04.840 I was like bet. 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.679 So we put the wigs on and we did some 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.000 crazy Jamaican ship and Ted was like, that's what I want, 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.960 Laurel Hardy and he took it to MTV and m 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.560 TV said we got money to pay one person, and 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:21.199 me and Dre said we'll split it and we took it. 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:21.360 So. 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.439 Look, one of my favorite things to do is to 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.920 when we come here is uh uh see if the 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:30.679 artists on time. I knew he was gonna be on time, 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.640 so I didn't take that back. I didn't take that back. 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.600 I was like, yo, his his his radio background and 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:37.800 his professionalism. 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:39.560 He's not gonna have he's not gonna be late. 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.960 So then I've been waiting to be on this fucking show. 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:52.160 Man, Hold hold on, but I'm like, this is my nigga. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.120 My second thing is to always know what the artist 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.280 is drinking. Now you order one of the most unique 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.439 drinks ever on drink Champs history. Let's let's see what 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:06.800 that is. Okay, now what is that? That is Basil 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:12.160 Hayden dog ride mis Bourbon. It's whiskey whiskey bourbon. Y. Okay, 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.640 we put in a special order. Let's let's get this. 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:16.440 Let's leave that there for him. We put in a 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:20.280 special order because you're a special type of guy, and 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.120 we had to do something special because we said we 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.040 were going to make sure you got that, but then 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:25.480 we got you. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:36.840 Hell hold on man, hold on, wow, whoa. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.120 Now this is special ship right here. I told you 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.280 all my boys. 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.240 My man Cam Newton's body got his spots of spot 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:47.880 called fellowship, a Sira, life and times and pleasure chants, 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.040 all of them is like bring that home, bring that 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:56.280 home right there. That's special thanky man, Thank wow, that's 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.960 crazy right. I'm so happy because I've been waiting for 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.200 somebody to order a merry can whiskey and I'm like, yo, 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.680 just just see what you order. And then who is it, 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.960 mister Lee who sent the pits? And I was like. 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.080 And I was like, I said that foret I think 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:15.280 is that American whiskey? And I was like, yeah, I said, 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:17.920 I hope he loves this pappy because we're going in. 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:19.600 Oh yeah, yeah, we're going. 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:23.040 Now. You drink Pappy. I drink Pappy where I might 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:24.240 chill it just a little. 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:25.240 Just a little bit. I said, we're gonna do over 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.600 a little ice. Yeah, we're gonna do it. I'm gonna 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.400 do a little bit of let it breathe. Sometimes we 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.520 can just drop a thing of water and just a 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.360 little bit of water. But that's Pappy different, you know. Yeah, 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:38.000 you know, so I throw a big ice Cuban rock, 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:42.440 but that's Pappy. Save for that flake you you saved 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:46.640 for that flavor that's hard to get. Yeah, y'all drink 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:52.080 chances for real with that ship hard to they'd be 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.359 having lines outside of like liquor stores when they throw Pappy. 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.200 Dropping twelve year two. 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:01.120 Hell, so, let me ask you, how. 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.240 Did you get to Atlanta? I know I'm bouncing around. 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:06.000 But I want to know, like you know, because I 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:07.840 want to I want to get to a birthday party. 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:12.360 That's my son over there. As you came to that 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.640 talk about that first when we when we both lived 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:15.240 in West Arms. 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.520 I don't know if you glad you brought that up, 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.160 because I swear I was going to bring it up. 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.600 A lot of people don't know. See's birthday party had 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:27.240 Chris Lighty and yoah ruh the week there before John 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.920 fifty Star Beefmith. That's right, I spin a gard. It 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.080 was at my crib and Love was talking. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:33.880 To the only person and he's too young to even 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:34.840 know it was asked. 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:38.040 Fucking goddamn party. But remember Chris light he lived down. 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.640 The Chris Lighty was my next door to next door 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.760 neighbor god Rest, so he was my I tell you 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.120 a quick Chris story. 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:47.960 Let's go okay. 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.400 So I lived directly next door to Chris Lighty. Chris 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.760 Lighty had blacktop in his driveway. When I moved in, 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.640 Chris was already there. I didn't have a driveway. I 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.480 had the circular thing there, but it was dirt, so 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.320 I called the paving stone niggas. I put these fifteen 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.439 thousand dollars paving stones. I didn't think about Chris. I 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.679 was just thinking about beautifying my house. Paving stones. They 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.800 got an interlock. It's not blacktop. So Chris rings my 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.320 bell one day and goes, that's what you're doing. I'm like, 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:16.440 what the fuck is you talking about? 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:16.800 Chris? 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.440 He said, you see me, I got the asphalt blacktops. Shit, 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.399 you're gonna put down the paving stone. I said, Chris, 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.160 I wasn't even thinking about you, bro, I didn't put 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.240 the past stock. He said, who's your paving stone, dude? 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.600 So I gave him my paving stone, dude, paving stone dude. 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.200 Come they tears, driveway up. They put down paving stones. 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:34.359 He and Norri Will attested my take his asshole, Chris. 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:38.919 Whenter time comes, I'm shoveling my ship. Chris got just 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.720 as much snow as I got, he said. I said, Chris, 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:43.040 you ain't gonna shove me your snow. He said, come 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:44.720 in the house. He clicked the ship he had he 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.240 put under the motherfucker so you can help doing me. 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:54.159 And I loved him though, Man, I love that shovel 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:54.960 and ship click. 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.399 And I was like, wow, just that that was. 0:17:58.440 --> 0:17:59.160 That was a time. 0:17:59.560 --> 0:17:59.800 It was. 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:06.040 I believe Laurence Hill lived one of the happy god 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:09.679 damn hell yeah, sorry fellas like bringing that this ship on. 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:15.520 So I remember Laurier Hill lived one where Redman lived 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:16.800 down the block. 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:21.320 Jar Ru lived here. I lived in Jersey. Yeah, Chris 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.440 Lighty living I'm talking about in a twelve minute span 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:29.000 like hip hop neighbors and Jaru and then Chris Lighty 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:31.119 at love like and uh. 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:35.400 And Latifa Lata had which called it kay she from 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.320 Nordy Okay yeah yeah, but I would go to Shore 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.120 Hills more and. 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.280 This was this, for lack of a better term, Atlanta. 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.680 This was like the first almost Lenox more like, because 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:50.840 we would be deep in there but moving around. Uh. 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.320 The death of Chris Lighty. I still don't believe Chris 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:55.360 Lighty took his own life. 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:57.400 I will never believe Chris Lighty took his own life. 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.760 Chris Lighty was too full of himself that his life. 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.120 Chris Lighty was too full of life, too much love 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.639 for his children and too much love for his for 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:07.680 this business for him to take his own life. I 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.520 don't think anybody that was closely associated with Chris in 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:12.879 any manner and you were probably closer to christ and 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:14.960 I was. We were neighbors, but he was probably homies. 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:18.000 I'm moving it in our own directions. We had barbecues together, 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.280 we gave our kids someone Christian. 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:21.600 You were there, Okay. 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:23.920 He gave him the big birthday party and they both 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:24.840 slept through it because. 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:25.640 There was only one years old. 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:28.680 It's been fifteen thousand dollars a piece on the fucking 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.840 war since all kind of dumb shit, Chris. They turned 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.840 it to the dope park, right, But that's how much 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:37.920 life Chris had in him. So I will never ever 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.280 ever believe, and I don't give a damn when nobody 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:43.240 says that Chris Lighty took his own life. That's one 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:46.040 thing that I will never believe. So your son's back 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.320 to your son's birth Yeah, ye again. Okay, So Chris 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.960 tells me, I'm going We're going by Norrie House. 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:57.639 But in fact, I'm thinking joy at this time, faccause. 0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:58.119 Continue to continue. 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:01.720 I'm thinking seeing that mean war report, were getting ready 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:03.959 to hit the bridge. I'm not going to the fucking 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.840 project and I get some money now, I'm not doing 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:10.520 that ship. We turned the corner into this fucking beautiful 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:14.040 fucking honey. And you know, okay, so I'm thinking, okay, 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.159 the house is nice, but it's gonna smell reek of 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:20.840 bead and feet and ship the stink. 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:24.080 I'm living like a cost yo. When I want that 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:27.280 fuck me up, I'm like, this nice. 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.000 Way out of his cock because like a ship fucked 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.440 me up. I had to, you know, in my head, 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:36.800 I'm like, listen, what what normally shoot them up, kick 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:39.119 the buildings over him, the component and this think of 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:43.200 you like watching nice couch and shit a section. 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:45.000 No, honey, Fat Joe told me the same thing, and 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.920 he's like, people don't know you live like this. Sadly, 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.560 I don't think I have in this house. I still do. 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:58.480 So oh man, man, yo, look all right, let's get 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:01.560 just get this. So just tell you something. We've been 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.919 trying to do this forever. You know, I said it 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:08.080 in the intro. If it really for you, you you 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:10.639 you set the standards because there was other people in 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:13.400 the radio, but I feel like there was other people 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:15.760 that was imitating. Like there was one person on the radio, 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:18.680 then when you got to meet them in person, it 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:21.200 was a whole different individual. He was You're one of 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:23.720 the first people that I got to see witness for myself. 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:25.280 You were who you. 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:27.120 Were in the radio. You were who you were when 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.159 I sent you in Queens. You want you who you 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:31.199 were in real life. So we want to give your 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:34.080 flowers face to face man and man, mister Lee, we 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:39.600 working up face gives thank you, well, you know something normal. 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:41.680 That's what I always strive to be because I grew 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:45.400 up listening to radio like everything Frankie. 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.840 Oh bro oh god, wow. 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:53.280 Wow, and it gives keep coming beautiful man, Thank y'all. 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:56.840 I appreciate that. Yeah, this is the Frankie Cracker every night, right, 0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.399 you knew it was eight o'clock when I dare I 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:01.320 go there Go came on the radio, so you know 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:03.360 it was eight. And then I would listen to Chuck 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:06.000 Leonard and the cats like that, and I love Chuckling 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:07.800 and all that, but he always put on a voice 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.280 list is Chuck Leonard, let's go off school radio school 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:13.120 radio shit. So I was like, if I ever get 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:15.240 the opportunity to get on the radio, I'm gonna be mean. 0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:17.960 And the same person that you're gonna get outside of 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:20.280 the radio is gonna be the same person that you're 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:22.520 gonna get on the radio. And my man Bugsy big Shot. 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:25.239 The Bugsy was very instrumental and making sure that I 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:28.520 stayed that route. And just all you can be is yourself. Man, 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:30.800 you can't be nobody else. I'm a one on one. 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:32.359 So that's the way I look at it. You know 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:34.000 what I mean, I'm gonna do me no matter what. 0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:35.960 I don't even care. I'm just gonna be me fire 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:38.600 But all right, let's bounce around a little bit. 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:42.159 One of the most one of the first times the 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:45.960 industry got to see pot be out of control. 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.080 Like maybe he was out of control before that, but 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:52.320 it wasn't documented. Was that your m TV rapp where 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:55.440 you can kind of tell y'all got a relationship already, 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:57.480 and you know what you're stopping is not going like 0:22:57.640 --> 0:22:59.399 because I don't think. I don't think when you were 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:01.800 stopping him it was about you stopping him from this 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.560 in the Huge Brothers, I think it was you stopping him. 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:06.680 And you correct me if I'm wrong, you stopping him 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.320 because you know where this would have led back then. 0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:10.280 The higher option of. 0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:14.280 People said that I was always a person that think 0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:17.480 a little bit sometimes, and uh, I knew when POC 0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:18.200 was going off. 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.199 I was like this ain't gonna be good because you 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:20.920 got a case. 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:25.120 So you're actually going on television saying that you did 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:27.920 what they accused you. So I was like, before you 0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:30.119 bury yourself anymore, let me shut you up. 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:33.119 Bro, stop because you know and they subpeeded that ship. 0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:35.720 They didn't. You know what's funny about the four this? 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:37.720 After I keep looking at it, y'all didn't have to 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:42.680 bleep him. He edited his own self, but he didn't. 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:44.320 When I look back at it, I'm like, why do 0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:44.960 I have a call? 0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:46.399 Can I vest on a no shirt? 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:46.560 Like? 0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:49.560 What the fuck is I think of that? I want 0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:50.640 some sexy ship. 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:56.159 William, I'm thinking, why did I have a shirt on? 0:23:56.400 --> 0:24:00.159 Always look at the stupid ship? So you also I 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:00.639 noticed this. 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:04.800 Your show was on six days a week, Monday through Friday, 0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:21.240 twice on Saturday. Yeah, Dallas a successful as showy. 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:16.119 I'm being successful. 0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.640 You guys were the front line and broadcasting hip hop 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:21.119 to the world because there was You guys were the 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:25.040 first one that would word to the entire country, if 0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:26.200 not even further than that. 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:28.159 Right, Yeah, we're in around the world and people are 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:30.960 recording it like maybe the world WI. Yeah, we're worldwide, bro, 0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:33.960 and for from my perspective more so than Dre, because 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:36.239 Drey had already had a foot in the door and 0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:39.000 I really didn't. I was a fan bro Like, I 0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:41.320 would fan the fuck out when I found out certain 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:42.400 people were coming to the shop. 0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:44.560 I'd be like, oh my god, public enemy is coming. 0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:46.160 I drink. 0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:47.640 That's how I am. 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.359 Like. I was a fan of the music, so to 0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:54.200 be able to sit down and talk to dudes about 0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:56.040 their music and they and they art and they culture, 0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:57.800 and if you look back at it, at that time, 0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:00.760 it really was about the art. It really was about 0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.399 the culture of hip hop. It really was about the music. 0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:05.680 Look at some of them old videos. Nobody sneakers was 0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:10.600 clean son, nobody had afford, no wardrobe style niggas or 0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:14.080 whatever they had, it was no wardrobe change. So you 0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:16.800 had to They wanted to do this ship like you 0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:19.560 wanted to be known as being one of the best 0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:21.240 coming from your neighborhood. 0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:22.400 You want it, you know what I mean. 0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:24.840 Like they say pressure makes pikes, right, I mean I 0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:28.600 mean pressure makes diamond right. So when kras One hissed 0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:31.520 the hole and fucking tied queens, which pisched me the 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:33.680 fuck off because I was like, all of us ain't 0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:37.440 got you got people for them, queens Bridge niggas. 0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:41.160 Sticking out on that south side. I was fucking pitch. 0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:45.600 It put the pressure on Queen And then look at 0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:47.679 what came out of Queens after that. Look at too 0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:50.760 notable ship that has come from that burrow that was 0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:54.919 so highly disregarded and disrespected. That's why I'm so fucking 0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.520 proud to come from Queens bro I'm so proud to 0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:00.000 be from Queens. I wear that ship like a badger arm. 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.480 I got king from Queen's tattooed to my arm. Brom 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:09.160 rocks fresh. They used to disrespect us like crazy, call 0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:12.320 us the desert. Yon is corny right now, Hey, they 0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:13.240 know it's crazy. 0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:17.560 Uh what's ill about that is five percent has made 0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:21.360 that that that derogatory expression the desert. It made it fly, 0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:23.639 right because five percenters took that and it was like, 0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:25.280 oh the desert, and it was like it was cool 0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:26.000 to people from the desert. 0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:26.440 You know what I'm saying. 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:28.960 They said, Mohammed walked through the desert and all that screen. 0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:34.800 I mean, but uh, I'll tell you what me seeing 0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:39.199 run DMC, me C and l L come before me 0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:43.720 knowing where they're from. It always gave me hope. Was 0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.360 that something that that that it was in YouTube? 0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:47.280 Yeah? 0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:49.639 Absolutely, Being four blocks away from jam Mass and j 0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:52.440 no one want to watch them make it and watch 0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:55.640 Jay have like crabb feasts at his house and inviting 0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.840 everybody there. I was there when they sent the buses 0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.479 to Hollis Avenue said, anybody want to come to the garden, 0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:04.760 you come for free. That's the night run took the 0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:06.960 shoe off and held it up. They got the Adidas 0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:09.320 deal that night, So everybody wearing a DTA. 0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:11.800 Turn the fucking lights on. Everybody had any deda on 0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:13.640 And that's the influence. They got the. 0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:18.520 First shoe deal of a non athlete, first shoe deal. 0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:20.200 That inspired the ship out of me. Man. 0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.520 I was like, if they can do this, and ll 0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:24.959 can do it, and then salt and peppers from Queens, 0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.800 and krom is from Queens and cannon players from Queens. 0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:31.040 Veric b is originally from Queens. If you see Martin Lawrence, 0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:34.000 mart Lawrence was in Queens a lot. You got Molly 0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:37.800 and Shan and Chante and nooring them from left racking, 0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:40.960 all of these guys called Queens. Man running them was 0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:45.040 the biggest inspiration from me and Russell than anything else. 0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.440 Knowing that they were that close and they were touchable. 0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:50.480 Dmcus to always come around. DMC had the big ass 0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:53.560 bronco with a fucking freezer built into the back of it, 0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.919 with nothing before the ounces of old English, a black bronco, 0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:00.480 and he always had a round. I'm like, did you 0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:01.840 got a rhyme? You wass had to fold it up 0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:03.920 rhyme in his pocket? You pull it out, kick a 0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:07.000 round to you real quick. So he was very inspiring 0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:10.919 to me, very relatable, and a lot of people don't know. 0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.640 It was one time that they dressed like like different 0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:14.480 and then they took. 0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:17.760 The super nerves. Yeah, with the plaid jackets on over 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:22.680 that corny ship. That was is their whole style everything. 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.119 D don't deny it, run, don't deny it. Yeah, they 0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.119 said they got all that ship from j. J was 0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:29.880 the one that had the DA on the fucking big 0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:33.760 rope and ship Jay did all that. Yeah you know 0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.800 Jay isn't man damn Yeah. Rest in Pieces one of 0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:39.360 the one of the greatest of all time. 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:44.320 Bro. Now, Also, we love the story. The Grandma y 0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:45.160 story was big. 0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:50.720 Well, well, I love that story because Uh, I don't 0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:53.560 know if Big invented that, But to this day there's 0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.360 people who drink half a bottle of shat pang and 0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:59.040 they will mix it with some whole other ship. But 0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:01.440 let me be out, that's with you, the first time 0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:03.600 I heard of any of that ever. 0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:05.160 It is you telling the story. 0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:07.640 You were Big. That's the night he died. That's the 0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:09.560 night he died. That's the night he got killed. Peterson 0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:11.720 auto monial music. Matter of fact, it's funny. Shout out 0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.120 Kenny Burns because I just got off the phone with 0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.320 Kenny Burns earlier today. Kenny called me because he said 0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:19.440 he was in the gym and he was working out 0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.840 and he was mouthing the words the hypnotized Mad loud, 0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.000 and he said some dude came up to him and say, yo, Mat, 0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:30.160 just heard ed Love talking about you and about the night. Yeah, 0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.440 we were all laying man, and uh, he was sitting there. 0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:35.440 He had had that car accent with seas he had 0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.600 the cane and he was sitting there and he used 0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.280 to always he would never call me Ed. 0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:42.120 He would Edwin all. 0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:45.800 The time, ed Dwyn and I called him Christopher, Christopher 0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:48.800 ed Dwyne all the time, and he gave me a 0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:50.000 bottle of dom pet and he. 0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:53.560 Was like a little Drea. Shoot. 0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:55.440 I'm like, how the fun I'm supposed to drink half 0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:57.320 a bottle of dom Pete. They got him trunk already 0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:03.959 bring it back to the halfway point, and then I 0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:05.719 did it. I took it around and we was all 0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:07.680 yelling and showed me the money because that movie had 0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:08.960 just came out and we was wilent. 0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:11.120 We giving everybody champion. I brought it back. 0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.360 The nigga reached down Paul of ball of Grandma. He 0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:15.400 felt it back up and smacked to me, Now I'm 0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:18.120 looking at this nigga, like, get the fuck out. That's 0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.680 what kind of duty was I think that mix? No, 0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:23.600 I d I get the rest of that ship out. 0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:30.560 I didn't drink for disaster, absolutely yeah, bouncing around right. 0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.880 One thing about you, I believe we did hot like 0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:37.120 Jamaica one time, right, you remember that. And one thing 0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.520 I loved was you immediately became the leader on the 0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:42.400 bus as soon as you came, Like I can tell 0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:43.800 this wasn't your first time there. 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:47.600 Right, But I felt like, was that ship when you 0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:54.040 were in college fraternity? Like you? How I felt about 0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:55.760 hip hop. You just what I'm saying you, let me 0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:56.320 just tell you something. 0:30:56.360 --> 0:31:00.800 You that day you were angie like being the the 0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.920 OG's at that time, especially still now, but it was 0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:07.200 like y'all took control and that was showing us younger 0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.480 artists how to move even how to like yo you 0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:11.320 just how you check into the hotel, you to do that. 0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:15.480 I haven't felt like that since, Like it feels like 0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.200 it feels like it's more. 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.120 Of a I want to battle you and be better 0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.400 than you than I want to teach you situation right, 0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.320 And I don't want to turn into that guy in 0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:27.880 my day. You know, we shoued to do this and 0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:28.320 do that. 0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:31.040 But I just want to also state facts like you 0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:35.520 embrace the new artists. I feel like Asie embraced the 0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:38.520 new artist. If flex like your record, he would embrace 0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:42.360 you and alert yeah, alert everybody right now. And I'm 0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:46.040 not everybody. That name was DJ's and TJ's personality. 0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:47.200 Because no artists. You're saying yeah, but. 0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.760 I'm saying yeah, there was artists at that time. Fund 0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:52.640 embraced me, Joe embraced me. 0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:56.440 Uh now it's embraced me. Mark Deep embraced me. But 0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:58.240 I don't see that going on. Do you used to feel 0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:02.320 that fraternity love, because I think I don't feel it 0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.440 because I think, first of all, radio has changed. Radio 0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:07.960 has changed so much, and it's okay, everybody wants to 0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:10.040 get their money. But I kind of feel like we 0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:10.880 were still fans. 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:11.920 We know what we did, we. 0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.400 Know the impact that we had in the community, but 0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.920 we're still fans, and so at the same time, we're 0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.440 excited about talking to you, excited that you was coming, 0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:21.480 excited to embrace you on your new record. 0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:22.880 I feel like some of these. 0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:26.040 Radio personalities think they just as big as the artists 0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:26.880 that they're talking to. 0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.040 I never felt like that. I always felt the most 0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:30.320 important thing was the artist. 0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:34.480 So if we could show you by leadership, just how 0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:36.640 you can stop being an artist for a while. Like 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.840 we're on the bus, Nori, we're in Jamaica. You don't 0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.120 have to be Norriega right now. You can just be 0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:44.800 who you are. Let's go to Dunge River Falls and 0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.360 fucking slip on the rocks and have a good time. 0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.160 Let's smoke some bug and chill out. I think Patrin 0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:53.320 was there and she cooked the fucking hot ass chickens 0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:54.040 killed all of us. 0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:55.560 It was delicious though. 0:32:55.600 --> 0:33:00.280 But that's the environment that we always wanted to set 0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:02.920 for everybody, that this is the time until you get 0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.560 on that stage to perform, you're around us. We're just 0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:07.680 here to have a good time. All the other ship. 0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.520 We ain't gonna stick, no micing your face, ain't nobody 0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:11.040 secretly recording nothing. 0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.040 We just wanted to have a good time with you. 0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:18.360 Like, but that sounds like true community where they got 0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:20.560 to a point now where like it's not just radieros 0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:22.320 all of media, but all of hip hop where a 0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.800 lot of people jumped into the fold. We didn't really 0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:27.920 care or were fans of the culture, right, so they 0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:29.560 get anything either. 0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:31.400 Right, oh this commit me money, I could jump into 0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.480 this lane right and not truly they don't care to cultivate, 0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.200 to take care of the culture, do right by it, 0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.480 just like when you decided to not rhyme because you 0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:41.680 respected that out of ll. 0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:45.480 How do how do we. 0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:48.760 How do we bring that feeling back? How do we 0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:51.960 bring that community back? Where I could call could call 0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.640 the baby and be like, yo, the baby you. 0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:56.800 Know man, I wish I knew man, because I would 0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.160 I would love to drop some jewels on these dudes 0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:01.320 on how to keep their money and how to how 0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.240 to fucking stay out of prison, and how not to react. 0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:05.240 I think that's one of the. 0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.880 Biggest things that that they have to learn and that 0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.440 a lot of people have to learn, just us period 0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.280 as people, that we got to move off of logic 0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.160 and not move off of emotion. You can't let every 0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:19.480 time somebody say something to you make you react towards 0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:22.040 them in a violent man or any other man. And 0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:23.799 sometimes you just gotta let that shit be workeed off 0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.200 of ducks back and keep going. There's many times in 0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:28.279 my career where I would be in the mall, even 0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.840 with my kids. Bro, I'm in the mall and somebody 0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:32.600 behind me like, yo, you know that's ed love. And 0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:33.920 you know when somebody trying to. 0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:35.120 Bait you funck that nigga. 0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:37.440 Man, nobody give a fuck about that nigga. Instead of 0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:39.399 me spending and be like fuck you too and get 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.400 into some shit, I just go all right, y'all, come on, 0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:44.680 let's go, because it ain't worth it, man. It's they 0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:49.279 want to make a name, and especially today, the camera's 0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:50.840 going to start costing you money. 0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:54.440 It's like it's a trap. It's a trap. So if 0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:55.000 they listen. 0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.759 There's there's a lot of OG's like yourself, like me, 0:34:57.800 --> 0:34:58.920 and I would love to talk to them. 0:34:58.920 --> 0:34:59.200 I would. 0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.520 I would definitely do, and be honest, I definitely would 0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:03.839 like to lend my expertise, but I also don't want 0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:05.440 to waste my time to like you. 0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:08.080 Know what I'm saying. I was at that age and 0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:08.880 I know I wasn't. 0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:10.759 Listening to somebody, but if somebody listen to me, I 0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:15.600 would let my time absolutely. I would. You have a 0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:20.359 thought hip hop would get this dumb? Damn No, it's mean. 0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:21.959 People ask me that I think that hip hop would 0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:22.440 get this far. 0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:25.160 Yes, but this dumb? 0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:25.879 No. 0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:29.960 No, I don't think it's dumb. 0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:33.520 I think it's some real, credible, great young artists out 0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:35.480 there that I enjoyed listening to. 0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:36.960 I really really do. 0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:41.160 I just think that the avenue for bullshit is why. 0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:45.239 Wide open bullshit makes more money. Yes, like we get 0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:46.719 how do we close that gap? 0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:50.200 There's other people that got something to say, and then 0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:51.160 there's no balance. 0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:54.520 That's the only problems we had. Balance. 0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:57.000 We had the balance, we had the ex clan and 0:35:57.360 --> 0:36:00.120 public enemy, and then we didn't understand why. 0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:04.920 To mew a in public, and he was the perfect 0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:06.799 balance at that perfect balance. 0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:07.560 And was too. 0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.320 He had here intelligence and he has treets on absolutely. 0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:13.719 So if bigging them was saying I mean not big 0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:16.000 if Snooper was saying, bitches ain't ship but holding tricks, 0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.600 Lativa say who you calling her bitch? I punched your 0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.520 dead in the eye. You calling the bitch? Uplifting women. 0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:26.120 We had Lauren Hill, you know, you had Nikki d 0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:28.680 and all of that Daddy's little girl. You had Eve 0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:32.319 talking about abuse being abused, you know from from the 0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:35.200 perspective of her looking at her girlfriend being abused. You 0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:37.879 had that kind of stuff on record as well as 0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:41.359 us enjoying the hardcore ship. Now it's just dumb ship 0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:44.400 and it's not lyrical at all. You really don't have 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:46.799 to be nice, which pisces the fucking shit out of me. 0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.200 I hate it. You don't have to be nice, you 0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:51.600 just have to be catchy. And they'd be like, it's 0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:54.480 a vibe. It's a vibe. It's a vibe. Okay, this 0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:56.239 ship ain't for me. All right, I'm fine with it, 0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:58.279 but go make your money. I'm happy about that too, 0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:00.479 me too. Make much money as you can. 0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:03.320 Off the ship. You're very happy about that. Yeah. I 0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:05.319 don't ever like to blame the artists that are doing 0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:08.720 it because make your money. No, I blame the audience 0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:11.040 is fault for saying I want to be this dumb 0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.279 but they don't know. It's the artists for dude like 0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:14.719 I can't, can't. 0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:16.719 They will try to add off and then when that 0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:19.520 ship that they try and don't work, they go right 0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:22.439 to the low lows hanging front. Let's think about your face. 0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.480 I should be like, oh, ship, you. 0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:30.360 Couldn't get away with no crazy the lyrics in the 0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:30.960 late eighties. 0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:35.080 That's not true. There's always been whacking on, always been whacking. 0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.960 It has been whacking seas, but you could barely rarely 0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:38.759 get away with it. 0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:40.440 I agree with that. I agree with that. 0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:43.239 But there's always been people who who who got over 0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:44.080 that hump recome. 0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:50.040 Yeah, there's always been that career that so long you 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:57.480 rapping dudes excutive executive to actually real hip. 0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:59.560 I see somebody interfiting with the wrapping duke. 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:04.359 Yeah hell yeah, yeah. 0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.080 Vana Ice was trashed too. I love Rapper, I love Rocket. 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:10.759 We went and we went to Russia together. I love 0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:13.440 to do. But he was not a great raperd we 0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.120 gotta take a drink to that. He's named after Pappy 0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:20.240 van Winkle, Robert, give him a new drink, give him 0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:20.759 hm hmm. 0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:24.920 So he came out he could dance though. That was 0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:28.520 the entertainment value into but as a rapper, come on, 0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:29.719 all of us was man at them. 0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:34.960 So Stretch, Yes, let's talk about the super legend. 0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:37.840 I wanted to say queens, but that that'll be so 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.319 limited to New York City, New York City. I want 0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:43.640 to say worldwide, because if you bring up the beginning 0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:47.280 of pop right after Digital Underground, it goes straight to Stretch. 0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:49.320 Stretches from the live squad. 0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:55.480 Stretcher actually brung Tupac to Left Rack City. You know, 0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:58.480 obviously Stretched had a relationship with E Moneybags, who's from 0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:03.520 my building, grew up there before he eat money Bass. Yes, 0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:05.799 so let's talk about that era because you grew up 0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:06.280 with Stretch. 0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:08.279 No Stretch came to me when they was trying to 0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.600 get a record there, Tommy Boy. Yes, I got them 0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:12.920 signed the time you got them Sign of Time. I 0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:15.560 played here demo for tif Latifa, set up the meeting 0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:18.080 when Monica and Monica signed them, and then they did 0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:21.200 that short short form video. Okay, that was like three 0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:25.000 songs and short killing people. Yeah that was crazy. If 0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.920 there's like nine hundred thousand dollars on that video. Yeah, 0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:31.360 three songs and one long video that connected all the songs. 0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:36.680 And that's because that's the rumor is that Pop reached 0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.320 out because Park lighted that gangster ship, like he saw that. 0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:43.799 They met on a set of juice. Oh, they set 0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:46.359 the juice. Yeah, I was in juice. If you blink, 0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:47.160 you miss get her. 0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:47.640 Yeah. 0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:51.640 Behind, I've been looking for you for when you announces 0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:53.080 came right behind. 0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:54.440 I don't say ship. 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:57.080 I'm just standing there, but I'm there all day. Just 0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:59.920 ship that ship and we made and we knew. 0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:03.000 Pop because we knew Shock underground. 0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:06.160 We knew Shock, so we knew POC when Pok was 0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:09.200 roady and then Pac was playing Bishop and then them 0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:12.200 niggas smoked like Chimney. So they smoking and talking and 0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:16.040 the next thing you know, boom, they friends. Man, they friends, 0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:17.319 and they was deep friends. 0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:24.040 Too, real good stretch and Pop. Yeah, real good friends. Yeah. 0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:25.439 Go ahead, asked a hard question. 0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:28.760 Yeah, because I want to because I don't want to 0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:33.960 blame their relationship on big that they fell out because 0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:36.160 didn't they fall out a little bit before that. 0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:39.440 They were together when the shooting happened. That's gotta be 0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:42.520 the They was together. So, in lack of a better term, well, 0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:44.759 they went into the building together. They walked in the 0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:48.440 building together. Ah wow, Yeah, it was more than it 0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.200 was thinking. I think Freddy was there too, and I 0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.080 think not fab five fred but my man Freddy from Queens. 0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:55.120 I think he was with him too. 0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:57.800 And everybody knows that's from New York. I want to 0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:00.000 say everybody from Queens, but everybody knows in New York. 0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.080 Who was that crew that was affiliated with that Young Guns. 0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:07.720 Yeah, geez e money bags, Gam shout out Gam, shoutout 0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:12.200 homo e money all of them. Yep, so Madge, Stretch 0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:12.680 brother Mann. 0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:17.239 What would who would it be if Pak didn't go 0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:18.600 to Unique Studios that night? 0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:22.799 Unique or Quad Quad sorry Quad Quad whole different ballgame, bro. 0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:25.440 You want to tell me, you want me to tell 0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:27.320 you what I think Pak would have been today? Yes, 0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:31.960 the most impressive actor out of all rap actors, probably 0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.839 would have already been nominated for an Academy Award one 0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:36.880 and would have definitely been on the front lines of 0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:40.040 Black Lives Matter. Absolutely would have been on it. He 0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:41.360 was a panther at heart. 0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:41.600 Bro. 0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:46.920 He really cared about his people. He cared, he loved 0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:49.720 his black people. He would have been at the forefront 0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:51.720 of that ship. Definitely would have been at the forefront 0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:54.560 of him. And I believe he'd probably already won Academy Award. 0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:57.360 He was gifted. Bro, that good as an actor. He 0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:00.719 was just natural, right, There wasn't no work for him. 0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.560 He was natural. Now I'm bouncing around a little bit up. 0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:05.520 Come come, come back to that now one of the 0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:08.480 other I mean, have so many classic moments. One of 0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:11.680 the classic moments is like the first time I got 0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:12.960 to see Wu Tang all together. 0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:15.600 I gave it so early. Ghost Face had like a dog. 0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.600 He didn't even have the usually one of showing the 0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:19.080 space then. 0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:24.799 And I watched that interview. It's so funny to me 0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:27.160 because I know when you're coming up in the street. 0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:29.520 The street taught you at that time not to look 0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:31.640 at the camera, like to be like, you know what 0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:34.439 I mean, all of them is doing the same exact thing, 0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:37.400 but you and Ed is holding it down conducting. 0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:37.799 Bro. 0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:39.920 You're talking about when I had the karate gig, the 0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:42.320 karate gill on and that was propable. 0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:45.600 No, no, that's second time. That's the first time I 0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:46.040 had him on. 0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.000 At that time, them niggas was ready to kill me, 0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:53.120 my nigga. The niggas did not think that was funny 0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:55.000 at like, I'm behind him kicking in the air and 0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:59.759 bun yeahs was not happy son. 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:01.440 Oh. But that was after they blew up. That was 0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:02.360 after they brew nigga. 0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:05.000 And the only thing that saved me that day is 0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:06.240 Meth started laughing. 0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:08.480 When Meth laughed, everybody eased up. 0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:11.799 They grey Kawan told me this, Jeers, we was really 0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.759 wanted to fuck you up right right there. But that 0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:17.600 probably the second town, the first time I met these niggas. 0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:20.759 Fucking hilarius. I'm on Joe's Beach. It's the Greek Fest 0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:23.960 on Jones. I remember we used to go to Greek Fest 0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:27.600 Jones Beach. I'm Jeans Shawts Tams straight New York Yankee 0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:32.839 hat wife, beat up. Nineteen niggas surround me yo and lover. 0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:35.240 I'm like, yo, what's good. We're the wou Tang clan. 0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:38.239 I was like world standing down in Brooklyn. We in here, yo, 0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:39.280 we won't give you our tapes. 0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:43.480 I see the Rizza and I said, I know you 0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:45.840 Prince Rock video. 0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:48.600 We love you Rocky. Them niggas lost, No, it's the 0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:52.120 fucking Rizzle Now. They wasn't associating with that Prince Rock 0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:55.560 kshit that she was trashed to them. I did not 0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:59.960 recognize that Jena because he was on GAFEIC. I said, 0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.320 the gens, but they didn't really want to associate it. 0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:04.640 They were like, nah, we're the wool Tang clan. We'll 0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:06.520 get you all tape, my nigga, you know what I'm saying. 0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:08.920 Blah blah blah. So they gave me the tape and 0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.520 it was protecting that on one side and the other 0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:12.480 side was method. 0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:14.480 Man. 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:18.000 I remember getting in my car playing this tape and 0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:21.200 it's the most incredible ship I had ever heard in 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:21.600 my life. 0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:22.920 I was like, how do. 0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:28.879 They seamlessly make these many people sound out sound like unit? 0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:32.360 It was nothing like it? And damn all Right after that, 0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:34.200 they were the very first guest we had on when 0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.200 we signed on to do Hot ninety seven Morning Show. 0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.760 Claim was our first guest. Wow, first guess. 0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:45.040 The way it's from the music matched that exactly. Yeah, energy, 0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:46.640 but that's the Rizzord. 0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:51.480 That's the genius of sequencing from the Rizza understanding who 0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:56.480 sounds best right behind other people. I've asked him a 0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:59.680 question before. He told me he has a version of 0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:03.120 Dream that's him in ghost face. 0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:06.440 It's them too, but he probably like no. 0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:10.959 But when he put Ray and Deck on it, he 0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:14.080 heard it, he said that sounds better than us. I'm 0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:17.000 taking us off. So as a producer, how do you 0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:19.840 have so much love for your clan that you're willing 0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:22.759 to not shine so that they could shine? He said, 0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:25.680 their verses sounded better than what me and Ghost did, 0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:27.560 So we took me and Ghosts off the ship. 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:32.240 Wow got out really and I believe Rizard and Ghost 0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:35.880 is like the only ones that's really family like even. 0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.520 Doing family by married by married my children, my children. 0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.080 You had a lot of kids, Yes, yeah, yeah, yes, 0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:46.520 with yeah, God damn they love sounded crazy sound to 0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:46.919 be too. 0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:50.799 Did you ever see you ever got to see uh 0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.440 Woo and Nas show together? 0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:58.480 Yes that I buy merch. I'm just a fan man 0:45:59.000 --> 0:45:59.799 our asks for ship. 0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:00.520 I want to go. 0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:03.480 Backstage and say how the niggas and just being in 0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:05.839 the presence of them, and they're so fucking funny because 0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:08.360 what they sound like on the record if you just 0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:12.160 around them, that's how they talk to each other. Yo, God, Yo, 0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:14.960 peace God. Like all the skits and ship, they the 0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:18.160 same ship. Bro, It's the same ship. And even when 0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:22.959 they did the TV series, the young dudes that played them, 0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:24.680 when they were around each other, they. 0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:28.760 Talked to each other like they were in character. 0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:32.080 Yes, I told you, just had me scared of death 0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:35.840 and out there he had had Japanese whiskey and vodka 0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:36.319 and I. 0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:38.080 Was like, I ain't fucking with you because that do 0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:39.560 not go together at all. 0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:44.800 Yeah, he had had he had Yeah, Yamazaki, I believe, 0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:47.440 and he had great Goose and I was like, I 0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:49.400 love Yamazaki, I love Hebiki. 0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:50.799 But I'm not mixing him with no great Goose. Non 0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:52.200 haveving hell no, hell. 0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:56.400 Now, i'mna ask you a question that you asked yourself earlier. 0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:58.239 You ever thought the hip hop and make it this far? 0:46:58.680 --> 0:46:59.680 Yeah? I did. Yeah. 0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:02.719 I never thought that I would be this involved in 0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:05.600 hip hop or even even have people call me o 0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:07.880 g uh, call me an icon. I never thought that 0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:10.960 would happen for me, and I'm so grateful that it did. 0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:13.160 But I just knew that hip hop or something special, 0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:15.440 and I knew that all them cats like. I remember 0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:17.480 we interviewed Bruce Willis and he's like, hip I ain't 0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:19.480 gonna do this. I ain't gonna Yeah, he didn't like 0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:22.840 hip hop. My father didn't understand this. My father was like, what's. 0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:24.600 All that deep? 0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:28.000 Anybody can do that? I'm like, Dad, this music is poetry. 0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:30.960 It's the last poets. It's Gil Scott that you've played 0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:33.279 in the house for me a million times. It's pig 0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:36.320 meat Markham. Y'all played picmic Markham for me when I 0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:39.520 was a kid. He was rapid. Here comes to Joe, 0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:41.880 here ye, here ye to call the swing. I'm just 0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:43.359 about ready to do my thing. 0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:43.960 That's wrap. 0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:46.560 And it went just we took it and we did 0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:50.480 something else with it. We took something from nothing at 0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:53.120 all and made something special out of it. So I 0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:56.320 knew once it went that it was the youth movement. 0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:59.280 It was the youth music. It's never gonna go anywhere, 0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:02.840 never going anywhere. Hip hop will never die never. 0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:05.480 So let me ask you we used to it earlier. 0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:09.160 Change the subject for a second. Now you guys blow up. 0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:11.839 You guys get the chance uh to do this movie. 0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:12.719 I think it's new line. 0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:15.480 You got new line, who's the man? Three? Three pitch 0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:15.839 of deal? 0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:18.200 Yeah, three pitch of deal. But what made you say 0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:20.400 I'm gonna stick with Ted? Demi as opposed to going 0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:24.200 with Bread because because Ted put me on. He put 0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:24.440 me on. 0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:27.400 He had did a movie, a short film when he 0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:30.040 was in film school, and he put me on. So 0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:32.759 we went in and fought with new line, We're not 0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:33.600 doing this movie. 0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:36.520 Unless Ted directs it. Wow. Because Ted put me on. 0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:39.440 Bro Ted is the reason why I went from a 0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:42.560 high school safety officer in Andrew Jackson High School to 0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:46.120 being worldwide known the next fucking year. That's because of 0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:48.960 tag Ted. Ted pushed the green light. Ted's the one 0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:51.719 that said, I want this unknown guy named Ed Lover, 0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:54.839 and I want this guy named doctor Dre and this 0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:57.080 is what I want. And he fought for me, even 0:48:57.440 --> 0:48:59.120 in the early days when we were a half an 0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:01.320 hour and they was trying to make all these adjustments 0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:03.839 to the show. Ted fought for us. Ted and Peter 0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:06.279 god Rest both they souls. They fought for us. So 0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:08.560 it was a no brainer for me to say it's 0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:11.160 Ted or it's nothing. And what was Ted Roller? 0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:11.600 MTV? 0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:14.480 Ted was executive producer You on TV roll Wow and 0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:17.000 for he was a producer first, and then he was 0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:19.640 executive producer of Young TV Raps, and then you know, 0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:22.720 he just became a big film and television director throughout 0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:24.520 his career. Died way too early, too. 0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:26.319 And wasn't the show one of the highest rated shows 0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:28.640 on him the highest rated show in the fucking history 0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:32.480 at MTVS. Don't let me tell you. Don't let them 0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:33.880 tell you no, only different, right? 0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:36.040 And what fucking pissed me off when they did the 0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:38.960 fiftieth anniversary of Hip Hop and NTV did that thing. 0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:42.080 They didn't invite us, they didn't mention it, they did 0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:44.279 say ship. I don't know what the fuck is wrong 0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:46.440 with them. We've been trying to do our own documentary. 0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:49.600 They won't fucking loan out the footage and ship. It's 0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:50.960 just say they be on some bullshit. 0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:55.439 Bro Let me ask you, what would Who's the Mad 0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:56.400 Movie look like? 0:49:57.360 --> 0:50:00.239 Today? And all the Yeah. 0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:03.319 At one point I said, if I did a Who's Too, 0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:09.200 I would want my man from Saturday Night Live, the 0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:16.719 Due Order Impression, Keenan Keenan to play Dre's son. Right 0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:19.000 after drum line, I was thinking Nick Cannon to play 0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:22.840 my son and somebody would kidnapped Dre and I'm like 0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:25.480 a captain or a lieutenant now, and then they rookies 0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:28.480 following our footsteps to find out where Dre is. I 0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:30.239 can see that then, but now with all the young 0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:33.080 young cats in it. But now you got great cats 0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:35.680 like DC, young Fly and all all them cats that 0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:36.880 I'm so fucking. 0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:39.440 Can still blame. Even though he looks your age. 0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:44.399 Right now, he gives me your age age and out 0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:48.640 of your neck just right, keenan. So I heard that 0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:52.800 Dre didn't get his name because everyone thought either. 0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:56.279 Doctor Dre better for doctor Dre or doctor for doctor. 0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.080 Well, thank you to doctor Dre from the West Coast 0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:01.800 because we got to try to Russia because of doctor 0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:03.840 Dre from the West Coast. Because they call our manager 0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:06.520 at the time, Charlie Stetler, who played Beca and Crush 0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:09.360 grew Wow and was the Fat Boys manager. That was 0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:12.080 our manager for a long time. They called him thinking 0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:14.600 he managed doctor Dre from the West Coast, and they 0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:16.320 wanted him for the ship called the Festival of the 0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:20.040 White Knights in Russia where it only gets it sounded 0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:24.319 wilding me. I was like, that sounds so clanning ship yeah, 0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:26.880 what happens is it only gets dark for an hour 0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:31.680 and then the fucking sunshine again in Russia. So he 0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:33.759 was like, no, but I got doctor Dre and ed 0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:36.319 lover from your on TV raps and okay, bring them 0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:39.239 and then we bought salt and pepper and fucking uh 0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:43.880 your man vanilla ice with us and we just fucking 0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:46.040 had a great time. And that's because of doctor Ray. 0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:48.640 But Dre got his name from doctor doctor d J, 0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:52.480 doctor J, doctor J because Dre was a little chubby 0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:54.600 ball boy. For the next when they were in Long Island, 0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:58.080 is he also an Andre? He's Andre Andre Brown. Yeah, 0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:00.399 both of the may both Andres. But you know, man 0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:04.120 doctor Dres mac Dre right, Yeah, all kind of trades 0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:04.799 were not that many. 0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:06.320 Doctor Dre's not that many doctors. 0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:08.720 And back then, especially back then, you would be confused 0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:09.600 without social media. 0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:13.279 And when I was on the radio, I almost sent 0:52:13.320 --> 0:52:16.120 a cease and desist letter to a radio person no 0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:18.520 Atlanta called Chris Love. 0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:20.920 I was like, this, niggas not used on Love on 0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:21.360 the radio. 0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:23.799 It's only gonna be one because I went about it 0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:26.200 the right way. I asked scoop and scrap, I could 0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:30.400 I use love a scoo. You don't just buy the 0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:32.920 niggas shiit no ask. They was like, nah, go ahead. 0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:35.399 I was like, cool, this nigga pop up Chris Love 0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:37.640 of Love. I was like, oh, hell fucking know. And 0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:39.279 then it turned out to be Luda Chris. So I'm 0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:39.680 so glad. 0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:42.480 I didn't know that s been mad at me where 0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:45.400 everybody's little some stills like, how many decades of littles 0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:45.839 have we had? 0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:46.480 Artists? 0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:49.120 Oh my god, Little's you know killed me with the 0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:51.880 who I thought should have been little I love the motherfucker. 0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:52.760 But Big Sean. 0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:54.480 The first time I met him, I was like, how 0:52:54.600 --> 0:53:00.120 you Big Sean? Yeah, maybe he didn't want to be 0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:06.520 little Sandy. Yeah, mad littles, little baby is not like Lily. 0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:08.759 They would face that out by now. But Littles is 0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:12.720 still going. He's still going with Matt going for a while. 0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:17.840 Yeah you j Young hold Jay still throw Young hout. 0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:25.360 I like it took all the d's, the littles in 0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:27.399 the young, but but who's the man going back? 0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:30.600 Was the obviously the focus always to do a movie 0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:32.440 that was going to expose all these artists, put all 0:53:32.440 --> 0:53:32.719 these arts. 0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:34.759 That was something that Dre and I said, we wanted 0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:37.440 to remember. I don't know if y'all remember Gumball Rally 0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:39.560 back in the days, all them since used to have 0:53:39.640 --> 0:53:43.759 all these cameos, all these cack ball cannonball, cannonball run 0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:46.759 and all that. Even on like the airplane joints. They'd 0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:49.040 be mad cameo. So we was like, we have this opportunity, 0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:51.839 let's give all these rap art stuff. Was a muster roup. 0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:54.319 You know who was supposed to be in it. It 0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:59.360 didn't didn't show up. No Mary j Block. Mary's supposed 0:53:59.360 --> 0:54:03.680 to sing at the funeral. Oh, I don't know what happened, 0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:06.080 but we was there all day. They confined Mary. So 0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:10.480 we're like, like, look, you're singing full for you're already 0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:13.000 in the movie. Mary was supposed to be in that ship. 0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:16.600 To this day, if you're a hip hop fan and 0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:18.839 you watch it as a man, you still notice people 0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:19.279 that you're like. 0:54:19.200 --> 0:54:21.120 Oh, I know that was him, Like you know what 0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:23.160 I mean, this day it was iller because you don't 0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:25.400 you don't see these people camera all the time. 0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:29.000 Okay, I think I was still a lot of people, 0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:32.319 but it wasn't prevalent everywhere. But you're absolutely right, But 0:54:32.440 --> 0:54:35.160 to me, it's Ellen now because like you said, I 0:54:35.560 --> 0:54:38.640 knew these people voices, and now with the Internet, now 0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:40.800 I know how certain people look like Like I really 0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:43.440 didn't know how n w A looked for a long time, 0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:44.960 you know what I'm saying, because I didn't get it. 0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:47.319 I was in privilege to see their videos. But when 0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:49.600 I watched Who's the Man, I'm like, Damn. I still 0:54:49.640 --> 0:54:51.799 to this day, like, Damn, that's who that was right. 0:54:51.680 --> 0:54:55.640 There crossing that ship, right we had which with bell 0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:58.759 Ice team Love. How the fuck did you get all 0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:00.840 these people? As them just. 0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:04.719 Asked, had just reached down to ask everybody? Nobody said no. 0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:08.520 Everybody said yes it was. It was just that simple. 0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:09.759 Everybody's like, yeah, why not? 0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:14.280 And Guru too, Yeah recipes? 0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:16.200 Was there anyone who said no? 0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:16.880 Recipes? 0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:18.520 Cypruss is in it too? 0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:22.239 Yeah? Be real? Be real, is my man thom Yeah? 0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:24.120 Be real as hell. Man. I I went to l 0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:27.680 A one time. Be real. Uh invited me to one 0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:28.920 of the Tolo barbecues. 0:55:30.920 --> 0:55:33.799 So yeah, one of them like in the hood, hood 0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:38.439 like straight like Mexican mafia type ship. When niggas sitting 0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:40.719 on the porch with a shotgun. When I pulled up 0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:44.080 and the nigga looked, and then some nigga walked to 0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:45.799 the gate, you know, like when the baby Joker looking 0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:48.800 biggas and scared you sh whole head got a spider 0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:53.560 that kind of ship he walked me. You know, Homie 0:55:53.560 --> 0:55:55.359 had lover it right. I'm like, yeah, I got a 0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:58.239 fucking great time with them, had ball. And then when 0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:00.560 I was getting ready to go back downtown, the niggas 0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:02.960 surrounded me in their calls to make sure you got it, 0:56:03.120 --> 0:56:06.080 wrote me all the way back downtown, and then be 0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:08.279 Real calls me and goes, yo, it was one of 0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:09.359 the homegirls in there that. 0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:10.239 Kind of like you be. 0:56:10.440 --> 0:56:13.640 I'm like, no, I'm not, no, no, no, be Real, 0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:17.440 I might be one of them niggas, baby little little joker, 0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:18.560 just a little something. 0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:20.480 I'm not fucking with them niggas, No, sir. 0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:23.680 Do you ever realize like the love you got, like 0:56:23.760 --> 0:56:27.120 you know, by you playing is nutube in the time 0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:30.120 where life wasn't nutu, but you was being newt you 0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:34.920 in that time and it's somewhat I'm not not somewhat. 0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:37.920 It gives you like I've never like And you can 0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:40.000 tell me if this is if I'm bugging out or 0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:41.200 I'm exaggerating, like. 0:56:41.239 --> 0:56:43.120 I've never really seen somebody. 0:56:42.719 --> 0:56:44.879 Mad at that lover like, and. 0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:48.000 I don't think you will either, Wow, because I'm on 0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:48.880 my fucking business. 0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:51.360 Bro. Even if i. 0:56:51.120 --> 0:56:55.400 Have a conflict with somebody about something, I'm always the 0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:57.759 one that say, Okay, let's talk about it, and we 0:56:57.760 --> 0:56:59.480 can talk about it, we get past it. I think 0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:01.839 that's one of the traits I got from from my dad, 0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:03.800 you know what I mean, if it ain't your business, 0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:07.320 it doesn't directly affect me, on my family, on my kids, 0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:09.000 It really ain't got nothing to do with me. 0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:11.640 So I didn't get involved in that ship. 0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:14.320 I was a little upset that Park didn't come to 0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:17.160 Stretches funeral. I was upset and me him and I 0:57:17.200 --> 0:57:20.120 talked about it was in New York. It was in 0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:21.960 New York, okay, And that was one of the ship 0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:25.600 was what Park was his daughter's godfather and so on. 0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:28.320 My so I kind of felt a certain way about it, 0:57:28.800 --> 0:57:31.720 you know, And you spoke about Pa about that. We spoke, Yeah, 0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:34.160 we talked about it. That's when she told me that 0:57:34.200 --> 0:57:36.480 he liked me because I stepped a pack as a man. 0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:38.360 He said, you know, we could have beat the ship 0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:40.400 out here. I said, yeah, I knew it, but he 0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:41.640 was like, you came as a man. I was like, 0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:44.040 leave him alone. He got something to say, leading nigga alone. 0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:47.360 What's the biggest difference between Tupac a Digital Underground and 0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:48.800 Tupac death Row. 0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:53.360 Tupac death Row was coming into his own as an artist. 0:57:53.760 --> 0:57:57.600 Tupac Digital Underground had to stand behind Digital Underground. You know, 0:57:57.640 --> 0:57:59.520 he only really had that verse when the client around, 0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:02.360 when the clown around. He was coming into his own 0:58:03.080 --> 0:58:07.240 as a solo artist right there, able to express himself 0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:10.520 to the heights that he wanted to express himself. 0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:13.040 But he did have the two albums before. It was 0:58:13.040 --> 0:58:15.600 the two or three before death Row days. 0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:16.200 It was like two. 0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:18.000 I think it was I think a big part of 0:58:18.360 --> 0:58:18.840 the difference. 0:58:18.880 --> 0:58:21.960 I mean, you knew him, but it seemed also the 0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:24.760 jail time too, you saw different side of them after 0:58:24.760 --> 0:58:26.080 the shooting changing. 0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:29.360 I always forget the shooting and then jail. I always 0:58:29.400 --> 0:58:33.080 forget that part. I forget the shooting and the jail part. 0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:37.560 All I say is Digital Underground. I always forget shooting. 0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:39.400 Was a fan of Park coming out of out of 0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:41.480 Digital Underground and his first albums were amazing. 0:58:41.480 --> 0:58:46.240 To me strict yeah, tw apocalypse now, Apocalypse. 0:58:45.600 --> 0:58:47.520 Now, and then you know he had the shooting with 0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:50.000 the cops and all that, But he was he was 0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:52.680 a certain version of himself. And then after the Quad 0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:56.480 studio stuff, then jail and then death Row, that seemed 0:58:56.480 --> 0:58:58.720 like a different person a little bit to me from 0:58:58.800 --> 0:58:59.560 outside looking in. 0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:03.560 It's he was growing as an artist, right. People got 0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:06.720 to realize he was young, super young, I said, And man, 0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:10.080 every time, every time I talk on on about Tupac, 0:59:10.160 --> 0:59:12.600 my nigga, I get so much Tubac hate. 0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:15.160 Both kids hate it on too. 0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:17.240 I love that nigga with all my heart and soul. 0:59:17.760 --> 0:59:20.120 We broke brand in my mama's house with this dude. 0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:23.680 I don't understand how people could say that I ever 0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:25.280 hated Tupac. 0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:27.480 I didn't. I'm just not gonna believe. 0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:29.880 But people try to tell me about Stretch, I'm just 0:59:29.880 --> 0:59:31.600 not gonna believe it. Like we say, you're not gonna 0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:34.560 believe Chris Lighty, I'm not ever gonna believe Stretch set 0:59:34.600 --> 0:59:35.400 pop up in the Quad. 0:59:35.440 --> 0:59:37.160 I'm not buying that. So you said that was because 0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:38.800 I did. I never heard that room, man, If I 0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:40.600 did hear that the nigga Dexter I think his name 0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:41.440 is Dex Lawrence. 0:59:42.200 --> 0:59:43.800 He was one of the dudes that ran in on 0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:45.960 Tupac trying to make a name for himself. 0:59:46.000 --> 0:59:47.840 For some reason, he wanted to say Stretch has something 0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:48.240 to do with it. 0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:50.560 And I'm like, come on, I'm not believing. I'm sorry, 0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:54.080 I'm not gonna believe it. I'm just not that's my dude, 0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:55.440 I'm not gonna believe that. 0:59:55.480 --> 0:59:55.800 Ship. 0:59:57.280 --> 1:00:00.280 But it's always niggas that wasn't dead, that's the shit 1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:03.520 that killed me. It's always some twenty nineteen year old 1:00:03.600 --> 1:00:05.680 nigga hit me on my DM and I'm to ask 1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:07.920 you how old were you? I'm ninety teen. And Pop said, 1:00:08.080 --> 1:00:10.600 that's a nigga. You wasn't dead. Shut the fuck up. 1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:14.600 You wasn't dead, nigga. I can't talk. All I can 1:00:14.640 --> 1:00:17.280 talk about is what I seen. That's all I can 1:00:17.320 --> 1:00:19.320 talk about. I can't talk about what I didn't see. 1:00:19.560 --> 1:00:21.680 I can't talk about an error. I can't tell you 1:00:21.720 --> 1:00:25.720 what fuck David Ruffin. I wasn't around the nigga. Come on, 1:00:26.080 --> 1:00:28.320 does these thigga want to tell me shit? Nother shit 1:00:28.560 --> 1:00:30.640 kill me? That kills me? 1:00:30.720 --> 1:00:32.800 Bro It kills me. I lived the gifted life. 1:00:32.840 --> 1:00:33.000 Man. 1:00:33.080 --> 1:00:36.160 I love that dude with all of my heart and soul. 1:00:36.440 --> 1:00:38.240 And the last thing we said to each other when 1:00:38.280 --> 1:00:40.240 he was coming out of that hotel and I at 1:00:40.280 --> 1:00:45.040 the Betty Boot Bar with fucking Goious, Bishop Donon and 1:00:45.080 --> 1:00:47.360 all of them they got they try to give me 1:00:47.360 --> 1:00:49.600 a home, they try to get me a hole. I 1:00:49.600 --> 1:00:52.320 don't have the capacity. And we talked. 1:00:52.880 --> 1:00:55.080 We talked, and he said, are you come to Son's Club? 1:00:55.400 --> 1:00:57.360 And I was doing something for Chris Latimer on that night, 1:00:57.400 --> 1:00:59.080 and I was like, yeah, I might stop by. For 1:00:59.200 --> 1:01:01.240 the back of my mind, I'm like, it's the East Coast, 1:01:01.240 --> 1:01:03.360 West Coast beef, y'all get drunk. You're gonna beat the 1:01:03.360 --> 1:01:03.840 ship out of me. 1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:05.160 I'm not going over Vegas. 1:01:05.320 --> 1:01:07.240 Yeah, a Vegas that night and I said, I love 1:01:07.280 --> 1:01:09.640 you bo. He said, I love you too, walked out. 1:01:10.960 --> 1:01:13.680 I ain't never been on no track that park was 1:01:13.680 --> 1:01:14.400 talking about. 1:01:14.440 --> 1:01:17.680 By the figure everybody she kills me. 1:01:17.760 --> 1:01:20.640 It hurts me too. I wish niggas wild stop doing that, right, 1:01:21.760 --> 1:01:23.640 but yeah, yeah, let's do it. 1:01:23.880 --> 1:01:25.000 You want to explain it on the game. 1:01:26.680 --> 1:01:28.320 By the way, part of me wants you to. 1:01:28.320 --> 1:01:36.360 Just the this or that talking about coming. 1:01:36.680 --> 1:01:38.480 Part of me wants you to drink some of this, 1:01:38.720 --> 1:01:40.680 but then the other part does no. I just want 1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:43.600 to be selfish and just drink this dog. This is 1:01:43.600 --> 1:01:45.480 because this is so good man, Oh. 1:01:45.320 --> 1:01:52.720 My god, I want you to say that. Mama, Mama, Yeah, 1:01:52.760 --> 1:01:53.480 you're ready, all right? 1:01:53.600 --> 1:01:54.840 So well, you know you know the rules. 1:01:54.880 --> 1:01:55.880 Then you know the rules. 1:01:55.920 --> 1:01:58.320 If I don't take one of the if I go 1:01:58.440 --> 1:02:01.280 neutrog I still got to yeah, okay, all right. 1:02:01.600 --> 1:02:05.800 And then you know this is not meant to this nobody. 1:02:03.840 --> 1:02:08.800 I hope nobody gets some stack because'm gonnanswer honestly. 1:02:08.760 --> 1:02:12.120 Your stories to any story stories you got TUPAC or 1:02:12.200 --> 1:02:13.960 d m x PO. 1:02:14.680 --> 1:02:17.840 Okay, I know he's gonna say that this one, this one, 1:02:18.040 --> 1:02:18.959 I think we skin a shot. 1:02:19.000 --> 1:02:21.080 But X is one of the illest niggas that everly. 1:02:21.000 --> 1:02:24.040 You got any crazy story with x X. I had 1:02:24.240 --> 1:02:25.480 X when I was a member. I went to Power 1:02:25.520 --> 1:02:28.040 one of five yes, and they bought a starmbuck wild. 1:02:28.160 --> 1:02:29.920 At the end of the morning, I went to the afternoon. 1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:31.880 They still had me on the contract to do the 1:02:31.880 --> 1:02:34.160 morning in case the niggas do something crazy, and they 1:02:34.200 --> 1:02:36.120 did against interview, and that's how I ended up back 1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:38.240 on in the morning. But remember when I was in 1:02:38.240 --> 1:02:43.520 the afternoons, I had Oprah. Yes, Jamie Fox took that up, 1:02:43.800 --> 1:02:47.520 so I had Oprah. So X comes in the afternoon. 1:02:47.600 --> 1:02:50.280 So I'm asking x X, how'd you get there? I drove, 1:02:50.480 --> 1:02:54.240 I said, you just got arrested. Fucking drop that I 1:02:54.240 --> 1:02:57.440 got a call ding my ship definite and he had 1:02:57.480 --> 1:02:58.960 to share with him, not to sure. It was his 1:02:59.000 --> 1:03:01.479 first wife. So the niggas standing there and he's telling 1:03:01.480 --> 1:03:03.520 me this ship. He goes, yoh, go ahead. 1:03:03.560 --> 1:03:05.680 You know, music is playing. We just talking. 1:03:06.040 --> 1:03:07.800 You know. The first time I ever met my wife, 1:03:08.040 --> 1:03:10.040 I told her I loved her, right, maybe first night 1:03:10.040 --> 1:03:10.640 I ever met her. 1:03:10.680 --> 1:03:11.400 She's like, yeah, he did. 1:03:11.480 --> 1:03:13.120 He told me love it. I said, Dad, to get 1:03:13.160 --> 1:03:13.560 the pussy. 1:03:14.240 --> 1:03:15.000 Then I realized. 1:03:15.880 --> 1:03:18.080 Then I realized that I really did love her. I 1:03:18.120 --> 1:03:24.840 still got the pussy. Told me that nigga told me, 1:03:24.880 --> 1:03:27.040 say yo, I did. 1:03:27.720 --> 1:03:28.040 I did. 1:03:28.560 --> 1:03:30.440 I was going I did what they really want for 1:03:30.480 --> 1:03:32.840 the bitches. I did that song and I took the 1:03:32.840 --> 1:03:34.919 ship to death jam and it was like, yeah, it's good, 1:03:34.960 --> 1:03:37.040 but you need somebody to sing on this ship. This 1:03:37.080 --> 1:03:39.640 shouldn't sound good. And I was like, well, who you're 1:03:39.720 --> 1:03:42.080 gonna put on there, what we're gonna do. The nigga said, 1:03:42.120 --> 1:03:44.720 le's let's get the nigga Cisco. He's on the label Lazard. 1:03:44.800 --> 1:03:48.320 I didn't really you know the nigga, you know, you 1:03:48.360 --> 1:03:50.960 know the nigga the blonde head. I didn't know what 1:03:51.040 --> 1:03:53.960 the nigga was like, you know, you know. 1:03:55.160 --> 1:03:59.480 Is a character? Yeah, he genuine as a motherfucker. 1:03:59.640 --> 1:04:01.760 I tell you, crazy X is my dog is this 1:04:01.880 --> 1:04:05.400 big X came over my crib and made my dog 1:04:05.440 --> 1:04:09.600 a pit bull. I promise you, t cup yokie, this 1:04:09.720 --> 1:04:14.040 nigga DNX, it's on film. I promise you it's on film. 1:04:14.040 --> 1:04:14.400 I got it. 1:04:14.440 --> 1:04:16.200 He's this big a DMX came to my dog and 1:04:16.320 --> 1:04:19.480 was like, m and I've never seen this in my life. 1:04:19.520 --> 1:04:22.600 My dog was like, I didn't even know he had 1:04:22.640 --> 1:04:23.400 those teeth. 1:04:24.480 --> 1:04:25.680 That's how X is. 1:04:25.720 --> 1:04:31.000 Okay, Nas or jay Z queens no, okay, alright, cool, 1:04:31.000 --> 1:04:32.720 I miss no disrespect. 1:04:32.840 --> 1:04:35.840 Jay J to me is the probably one of the 1:04:35.840 --> 1:04:38.600 greatest living rappers right now, because I'll say this about 1:04:38.680 --> 1:04:43.360 J and NOAs Nas is an artist artist. Like when 1:04:43.480 --> 1:04:46.080 Nas did the ESCO ship and niggas started clowning him 1:04:46.080 --> 1:04:49.480 about the ship. He finally realized that I'm going to 1:04:49.520 --> 1:04:51.919 do a lot of arts a lot of times. NAS 1:04:51.920 --> 1:04:54.080 don't give a fuck if he make a record album 1:04:54.160 --> 1:04:56.160 with a radio single on it, right He's going to 1:04:56.200 --> 1:04:58.240 make the music he wants, he wants to make. He's 1:04:58.240 --> 1:05:00.520 from Queens, so I'm going I'm going with but Jay 1:05:00.920 --> 1:05:03.240 is incredible. If Jay made a record right now, everybody'll 1:05:03.240 --> 1:05:04.120 be like what he jumped on? 1:05:04.200 --> 1:05:06.880 What we And you know what I like about both 1:05:06.880 --> 1:05:10.320 of them. All of the latest materials sound like them now? Yeah, 1:05:10.400 --> 1:05:12.800 don't sound like them then? And I mean that in 1:05:12.840 --> 1:05:16.760 an accompliment because absolutely, yeah, absolutely when he did the 1:05:16.760 --> 1:05:20.840 four forty five four four. 1:05:23.240 --> 1:05:24.760 Jay did? Who did that? 1:05:25.640 --> 1:05:28.400 I always told Jay I always loved the more more 1:05:28.480 --> 1:05:33.040 introspective Jay than any other j because he's a lyricist 1:05:33.320 --> 1:05:35.160 and I loved him, like when he did the pop 1:05:35.280 --> 1:05:38.880 Love Me raised Me that ship. They get prospective Drake 1:05:39.960 --> 1:05:41.840 jay Z. That's the jay Z I love the most. 1:05:42.280 --> 1:05:43.960 Yeah, they're updated verses of themselves. 1:05:43.960 --> 1:05:48.360 Wu Tang or n w A Wou Tang Woo Tang 1:05:48.880 --> 1:05:54.520 and I love n w A but EP two albums. Yeah, yeah, 1:05:54.720 --> 1:05:56.880 Wu Tang and the reason why I say Wu Tang 1:05:56.920 --> 1:05:59.720 is because of what spawned off of Wu Tang, and 1:05:59.720 --> 1:06:03.720 it's access that everybody that spawned off of Wu Tang had. 1:06:04.320 --> 1:06:07.520 If you do that, then you could do that. Lem 1:06:08.280 --> 1:06:09.520 as a legitimate. 1:06:09.760 --> 1:06:13.200 Easy was first and then Dre of course, Cube of 1:06:13.240 --> 1:06:15.600 course it's a great it's a great argument. 1:06:16.480 --> 1:06:19.080 There's a two do it the Colombian and the Dominican 1:06:19.160 --> 1:06:21.080 over there. Those are the two of these questions. 1:06:22.480 --> 1:06:25.120 Tracked the Leniens to Kendrick from n W A absolutely, 1:06:25.160 --> 1:06:31.800 you know, absolutely l L or Big Daddy Cane ship 1:06:32.560 --> 1:06:36.200 take a shot. I can't. I gotta say l Man 1:06:36.880 --> 1:06:37.200 all right. 1:06:37.440 --> 1:06:40.480 I love Kane, but I got longevity counts right, Yes, yes, 1:06:40.560 --> 1:06:42.200 that that new album is still fire. 1:06:42.680 --> 1:06:46.000 Yeah, I gotta go l L new album. Yeah, Okay, okay, yeah, 1:06:46.000 --> 1:06:48.520 it's fine. Ready Yeah. 1:06:49.200 --> 1:06:54.240 Lauren Hill or Missy Elliott Lauren Ya none against Missy. 1:06:54.640 --> 1:06:57.720 I love Missy. I love Missy. I mean I love 1:06:57.840 --> 1:06:59.880 Missy too. I took Missy down, so. 1:07:00.040 --> 1:07:07.400 I look, I take it down. She know I love them, 1:07:07.480 --> 1:07:09.320 she knows I love my wife. You know I love Missy. 1:07:10.320 --> 1:07:14.880 Come on, I took definitely love me miss miss beautiful 1:07:16.040 --> 1:07:21.120 beautiful bro. I like the big Missy too, a little chubby. 1:07:21.160 --> 1:07:27.360 I like to hear he has God's back. That's the 1:07:27.440 --> 1:07:33.280 one for me, sir. Hell yeah, I love miss I 1:07:33.320 --> 1:07:38.200 love you, beautiful missus love. I love you, baby, Red 1:07:38.320 --> 1:07:40.040 Man or methey Man, drink. 1:07:40.640 --> 1:07:44.720 Let's drink on that baby. They drink to me, meth 1:07:44.960 --> 1:07:47.080 Red is one of the most underrated rappers. 1:07:46.800 --> 1:07:50.480 Ever than me. Red Man, you said, Red is one 1:07:50.480 --> 1:07:52.600 of the hell He's one of the Illis bro and 1:07:52.760 --> 1:07:54.720 both of them together, their kindred spirits. 1:07:54.800 --> 1:07:57.680 Man a little my nigga one time? Oh God, you said, 1:07:57.720 --> 1:07:59.080 you said, story or let's go. 1:07:59.640 --> 1:08:02.600 I'm a l a. They playing the House of Blues. 1:08:02.600 --> 1:08:05.200 Remember the House Blues down Sunset Nor Remember that ship, 1:08:05.360 --> 1:08:08.520 remember that if she was right there. So the niggas 1:08:08.560 --> 1:08:10.800 called me, they'll come hang out with us. We're doing 1:08:10.840 --> 1:08:13.200 the House of Blues. They right across the street at 1:08:13.240 --> 1:08:15.760 the fucking hotel. I'm in the hotel with them. Why 1:08:15.800 --> 1:08:17.960 did I decide I'm gonna smoke weed with these niggas. 1:08:18.040 --> 1:08:18.400 I don't know. 1:08:18.479 --> 1:08:21.000 Why did that? Don't tell me it was dust? I 1:08:21.200 --> 1:08:22.720 know what done. I never been dust. 1:08:23.400 --> 1:08:26.400 Now I smoke weed with them niggas and we go 1:08:26.520 --> 1:08:30.439 across the street. They send the Sprinter to get the niggas. 1:08:30.439 --> 1:08:32.720 The niggas like, fuck that Sprinter House of Blues is 1:08:32.760 --> 1:08:35.559 right there. We're walking across the street. We just fucking 1:08:35.640 --> 1:08:37.680 walking out in traffic on sunset. We don't give a 1:08:37.760 --> 1:08:40.920 fuck the high as fuck. We get backstage, they get 1:08:41.000 --> 1:08:42.760 ready to go on. I said, I'm gonna go in 1:08:42.840 --> 1:08:45.320 the audience and watch the show. I went home. 1:08:46.080 --> 1:08:50.040 I was so fucked up. I went home. The fucking 1:08:50.120 --> 1:08:52.760 leg was no know where I was at. I went 1:08:52.800 --> 1:08:56.680 the fucking fun bred man and member and many and 1:08:56.760 --> 1:08:58.280 niggas always got this ship. 1:08:58.120 --> 1:09:00.800 With us that we just we just not on each other. 1:09:01.280 --> 1:09:03.880 We see each other. It's not like a hello, It's 1:09:03.920 --> 1:09:06.360 not like yo, what's good? How the kids just always 1:09:06.360 --> 1:09:10.120 look at this big note taking those with boxing gloves, 1:09:10.160 --> 1:09:13.040 fans nigga That's what to this day, That's how we are. 1:09:13.360 --> 1:09:14.880 So I can't choose between them two. 1:09:14.880 --> 1:09:17.639 I would expect that Gangstar or Eric being rock Kimp. 1:09:18.000 --> 1:09:21.400 Ericbing rock Kimp okay, and only because Rock Kim is 1:09:21.760 --> 1:09:24.960 probably one of the most important mcs we have ever 1:09:25.120 --> 1:09:26.439 seen on the faces earth. 1:09:26.520 --> 1:09:27.439 He's the god MC. 1:09:28.080 --> 1:09:31.720 He put words together his lineage. If you go look 1:09:31.760 --> 1:09:34.800 at Rock Kim's lineage. Nas is on that tree, Jay 1:09:34.960 --> 1:09:37.719 is on that tree, Big is on that tree, Guru's 1:09:37.760 --> 1:09:40.400 on that Wrapped is on that tree. 1:09:40.520 --> 1:09:43.880 That everything was aggressive before. Rocky is on that tree. 1:09:44.200 --> 1:09:46.360 Is definitely. We've had a lot of people from Nigga 1:09:46.400 --> 1:09:46.640 you on. 1:09:46.680 --> 1:09:48.800 The tree, a lot of people from different parts of 1:09:48.840 --> 1:09:50.920 the country, from the West coast, from the south that 1:09:51.000 --> 1:09:52.720 you would have thought and they would say, Rock Kim, 1:09:53.080 --> 1:09:54.280 They're part of that lineage as well. 1:09:54.360 --> 1:09:55.960 I love when we have people from. 1:09:55.840 --> 1:09:58.200 The West Coast and then they give us the top 1:09:58.280 --> 1:10:00.519 the top five and they and top top three of 1:10:00.600 --> 1:10:03.280 them usually is the real mcs from back then. 1:10:03.520 --> 1:10:07.000 Yeah, Rock Kim is is dumb important, you know right? 1:10:07.080 --> 1:10:09.479 He said ship. Yeah, and then he said ship. 1:10:09.560 --> 1:10:13.760 That made me say what my name is? Rod Kim 1:10:13.800 --> 1:10:16.400 inlaw and RRA A stand for Rod spinning around. 1:10:16.720 --> 1:10:19.640 It still comes out on and it does like what 1:10:19.800 --> 1:10:22.040 the fuck the seven of them season? 1:10:22.120 --> 1:10:24.120 The line is one of the fucking you know one 1:10:24.160 --> 1:10:31.439 of them? Yeah, takes seven more before yeah, twenty one 1:10:31.520 --> 1:10:31.920 and I'm. 1:10:31.840 --> 1:10:35.559 Like the out Yeah, And he was gangster without without cursing, 1:10:35.840 --> 1:10:38.200 absolutely and without saying gangster ship. 1:10:38.720 --> 1:10:40.720 Just think about it, like back then, people used to 1:10:40.800 --> 1:10:43.280 be like, yo, uh, don't let their kids listen to 1:10:43.439 --> 1:10:44.799 rap because of the curses. 1:10:44.920 --> 1:10:46.720 It was never because of the content. People can't really 1:10:46.800 --> 1:10:47.760 understand metal for us. 1:10:47.960 --> 1:10:50.560 So Rock Chim is probably only people that kids was 1:10:50.640 --> 1:10:53.759 listening to, and parents wasn't catching on that this was gangster. 1:10:54.240 --> 1:10:57.000 Yeah yeah, absolutely, he's still He's still one of my 1:10:57.080 --> 1:10:57.679 favorite dudes. 1:10:57.720 --> 1:11:00.640 Man. I remember I had this Gucci chain on. 1:11:00.720 --> 1:11:03.920 Big stupid Gucci Linguae ship hollow as the motherfucker I 1:11:03.960 --> 1:11:04.840 bought off the ad. 1:11:04.880 --> 1:11:07.240 Right ship was huge. I'm supporting this ship. 1:11:07.320 --> 1:11:10.160 So I'm around Eric, b Rock Cam, their whole crew, 1:11:10.560 --> 1:11:16.040 Supreme Magnetic all them, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:11:16.120 --> 1:11:17.000 So them niggas is. 1:11:17.000 --> 1:11:21.120 The Puerto Rican Supreme Magnetic right and fifty with them real. 1:11:22.040 --> 1:11:24.280 So the nigga tell me, you know, I was gonna 1:11:24.280 --> 1:11:25.080 get you for that chain. 1:11:25.560 --> 1:11:29.320 I was like, what what was that? You know how 1:11:29.320 --> 1:11:29.720 I get down? 1:11:29.760 --> 1:11:31.599 I'm about to get you for that change, But Eric 1:11:31.640 --> 1:11:33.920 and Rod said, you know that's my man at level, 1:11:34.040 --> 1:11:36.320 leave him alone. I said, so, fifth, what the fuck 1:11:36.360 --> 1:11:37.599 do you think it was gonna be the oe coming? 1:11:37.640 --> 1:11:39.720 You're robbing me like you think you're just gonna rob me? 1:11:40.120 --> 1:11:41.720 And I was gonna be okay with it, like the 1:11:42.000 --> 1:11:43.920 are you talking about? But the nigga told me he's 1:11:43.920 --> 1:11:46.080 gonna rob me. Thank you Eric being rock camp and 1:11:46.479 --> 1:11:54.439 got the locks of Run dmc oh, come on take 1:11:54.479 --> 1:12:01.280 a ticket shot, Yeah, come on. Longevity plays a part 1:12:01.320 --> 1:12:05.280 of it, but the Locks have more longevity than Run indeed. 1:12:05.600 --> 1:12:08.040 But they the most important motherfuckers that ever happened to 1:12:08.160 --> 1:12:11.000 me because if it wasn't for them agreeing to do 1:12:11.120 --> 1:12:12.880 that pilot, I would have never been on your own 1:12:12.880 --> 1:12:17.559 TV raps talk about man hell yeah, man, oh my god. 1:12:17.680 --> 1:12:21.120 Super important to me, super important. The queens the period, 1:12:22.160 --> 1:12:25.479 you know, so geez, the first ones on MTV, the 1:12:25.560 --> 1:12:28.040 first ones on Rolling Stone, They did live aid like 1:12:28.880 --> 1:12:32.080 on it was doing stadiums. I remember I did a 1:12:32.160 --> 1:12:36.000 commercial with Run. It was when Beats first started their 1:12:36.040 --> 1:12:41.400 streaming service before they sold it to Apple, And a 1:12:41.479 --> 1:12:43.559 lot of people don't know that's what Apple actually bought. 1:12:44.000 --> 1:12:47.280 They bought the streaming service and took their headphones and 1:12:47.400 --> 1:12:49.560 gave very like a billion dollars in Jimmy I V 1:12:49.800 --> 1:12:52.000 and all them right, But it was the streaming service 1:12:52.040 --> 1:12:55.479 because they had the infrastructure already, and Apple wanted the 1:12:55.479 --> 1:12:57.599 streaming service so they bought that. So me and Run 1:12:58.000 --> 1:13:00.760 did a commercial together that actually aired in the Super Bowl. 1:13:01.840 --> 1:13:05.519 And I asked Run, I said, who was your stiffest 1:13:05.560 --> 1:13:07.519 competition when you was rhyming? 1:13:07.720 --> 1:13:11.080 He said, we did Peter Piper and I said. 1:13:11.040 --> 1:13:13.160 We got one and he said, I got it from 1:13:13.200 --> 1:13:16.880 fairy Tale Lover from UTFO the song fairy Tale Lover. 1:13:17.120 --> 1:13:18.639 And I said, d we need to make a song 1:13:18.800 --> 1:13:18.960 like that. 1:13:19.080 --> 1:13:22.080 So we started writing Peter Piper, Pig Peppers and Run 1:13:22.160 --> 1:13:24.320 rock Royn and he said I thought we had him, 1:13:24.439 --> 1:13:26.120 and he said that Nigga LLL came out with I 1:13:26.240 --> 1:13:29.000 Need Love. He was like this motherfucker right here. And 1:13:29.120 --> 1:13:32.080 then I asked him another question. I said, care us 1:13:32.200 --> 1:13:37.479 one disc y'all subliminently, hechers wear crowns. 1:13:37.479 --> 1:13:38.599 The teachers stay intelligent. 1:13:38.760 --> 1:13:41.439 Talking silly Rhyn's on the mic is still relevant, especially 1:13:41.479 --> 1:13:43.280 when you not college material. 1:13:43.400 --> 1:13:47.000 That was a diss to Run dmc jans wear crowns. 1:13:47.160 --> 1:13:51.000 I'm the king of rock, but teachers stay intelligence here right, 1:13:51.080 --> 1:13:53.920 So I asked Run, why didn't y'all say something about it. 1:13:54.439 --> 1:13:57.040 Run said I was doing stadiums and he was doing clubs. 1:13:57.439 --> 1:13:59.640 If I would acknowledge him, I've been pulling him up 1:14:00.160 --> 1:14:02.519 to my level. I said, okay, that makes sense. And 1:14:02.600 --> 1:14:07.560 then he said, and the nigga was nice me, and 1:14:07.640 --> 1:14:09.679 they didn't want to fuck with that. That nigga was nice. 1:14:12.400 --> 1:14:17.960 Podcasts of radio, podcasts, podcasts, and I'm on the radio 1:14:17.960 --> 1:14:19.840 and I'm staying and I have my own podcasts. Come on, 1:14:19.920 --> 1:14:28.560 come on, podcast, I'm gonna tell you why radio have 1:14:28.720 --> 1:14:31.960 to stop operating like it's nineteen ninety three or eighty 1:14:32.000 --> 1:14:33.920 three or eighty seven. They need to go to the 1:14:34.080 --> 1:14:36.840 FCC and say, after a certain time, we need to 1:14:36.880 --> 1:14:38.439 be able to say what the fuck we want to say, 1:14:38.720 --> 1:14:42.200 because that's the reason why people come to podcast because 1:14:42.240 --> 1:14:43.800 you could say whatever you want to say. 1:14:43.880 --> 1:14:45.200 You could be as raw as you want to be. 1:14:45.479 --> 1:14:47.439 You could be as opinionated as you want to be. 1:14:47.800 --> 1:14:50.160 You could be who you want to be. That's why 1:14:50.320 --> 1:14:54.280 they're trying. These companies that have radio stations are investing 1:14:54.400 --> 1:14:57.120 in podcasts because podcasts is raw. 1:14:57.280 --> 1:14:58.840 As you see television change. 1:15:00.080 --> 1:15:01.680 You get the ship roll you get, you know, you 1:15:01.760 --> 1:15:03.960 get the House of the Dragons and crazy ship like that. 1:15:04.080 --> 1:15:07.880 You get dext you get the ship that Dion Cole got. 1:15:08.000 --> 1:15:11.560 You know, the average Joes. It shows like that. It 1:15:11.680 --> 1:15:14.960 ain't the cosmis no more, and radio is still dealing 1:15:15.000 --> 1:15:17.200 with it in that manner. And they don't want to 1:15:17.280 --> 1:15:20.280 make stars no more. Radio used to make stars. They 1:15:20.400 --> 1:15:23.519 made flex a star, They made Me and dre and 1:15:23.640 --> 1:15:26.840 and Lisa stars. They made Angia star, they made the 1:15:26.880 --> 1:15:29.120 Breakfast Club stars. They not want to They don't want 1:15:29.120 --> 1:15:30.439 to be invested in that because they don't want to 1:15:30.439 --> 1:15:31.479 pay no fucking body. 1:15:32.360 --> 1:15:34.880 So podcasting all day, bro. It's funny the way you 1:15:34.960 --> 1:15:37.800 say the uncensored part, because that's why Pirate Radio, at 1:15:37.880 --> 1:15:40.599 least down South so big. That's right that we took 1:15:40.720 --> 1:15:44.120 it was radio, but it was uncensored doing we want 1:15:44.200 --> 1:15:54.800 to do it Luke or Oconelly ockets from Queens. But 1:15:55.000 --> 1:15:57.479 I'm gonna say Luke. I'm gonna say Luke because Luke 1:15:57.640 --> 1:15:59.680 was the first dude that I saw that had his 1:15:59.760 --> 1:16:02.680 own resting plants, his own trucks, his own everything. He 1:16:02.800 --> 1:16:04.200 was Motown before Motown. 1:16:04.640 --> 1:16:06.800 And Luke gave us Trick Daddy, he gave us pit Bull, 1:16:07.160 --> 1:16:10.320 he gave us two Live Crew, wrest Brother mar Keys, 1:16:10.400 --> 1:16:14.000 Poisoned Plan. All that Luke is like to me, one 1:16:14.040 --> 1:16:18.519 of the most important label owners before anybody else. Luke 1:16:18.600 --> 1:16:21.040 had no middle man. It wasn't no Arister above him. 1:16:21.479 --> 1:16:24.000 It wasn't no Sony above him. It was no Interscope 1:16:24.280 --> 1:16:27.320 above him. Everybody else had a boutique label. Luke had 1:16:27.360 --> 1:16:29.880 his own real fucking record label. I used to watch 1:16:30.160 --> 1:16:34.040 the niggas press his records up in the warehouse, sleeve them, 1:16:34.120 --> 1:16:36.280 wrap them and put them ships in the truck and 1:16:36.439 --> 1:16:38.960 go out across the country and on the Luke record, 1:16:39.080 --> 1:16:42.559 Luke Skywalker records before they got them for the Skywalker ship, 1:16:43.080 --> 1:16:45.200 and and and take that ship all over the place. 1:16:45.240 --> 1:16:47.960 Plus Luke's for for our rights to say what the 1:16:48.000 --> 1:16:49.240 fuck we wanted to say on how. 1:16:51.720 --> 1:16:54.040 Luke. Absolutely, we just had Luke go on ahead. 1:16:54.040 --> 1:16:58.760 That's talking about don't get dilly. 1:16:58.840 --> 1:17:01.519 I love Luke talked about he took advantage of all 1:17:01.560 --> 1:17:03.840 the Caribbean and all the pressing plans being here for 1:17:03.960 --> 1:17:06.680 the Caribbean and for because he did took advantage of it, 1:17:07.120 --> 1:17:07.400 was l. 1:17:07.400 --> 1:17:11.320 Two coming long, not be He's a legend man. Yeah, 1:17:11.800 --> 1:17:14.080 arranged me for the petty oh yeah, big up dog 1:17:14.240 --> 1:17:16.519 and Luke and I played in the same playground because 1:17:16.560 --> 1:17:18.800 I came down here and KOD's and all that ship. 1:17:18.920 --> 1:17:22.400 So okay, absolutely, I remember. Get to the airport. We 1:17:22.520 --> 1:17:24.479 come down here to do the look shop a week 1:17:24.560 --> 1:17:27.280 work for your TV rats were looke. We come to 1:17:27.360 --> 1:17:30.800 the airport and it's limo for Ed Love, a limo 1:17:30.920 --> 1:17:32.840 for doctor Dre, a limo for T Money, a limo 1:17:32.920 --> 1:17:35.920 for Ted Dinny. We got four different limos. So I 1:17:36.000 --> 1:17:38.400 get in the limo and there's two naked girls in 1:17:38.479 --> 1:17:42.280 the back of the I get out the limo pulling 1:17:42.360 --> 1:17:45.639 my pants up, and she getting out the limo, both 1:17:45.640 --> 1:17:47.280 of them. So no, Luke said, we with you for 1:17:47.360 --> 1:17:50.519 the night. God, bless you little thank you, very God. 1:17:51.760 --> 1:17:55.519 Sell the fucking right. Moved something nine times in the row. 1:17:57.040 --> 1:18:02.519 He was moving money. I'm moving some of that, my wife, Baby, 1:18:02.520 --> 1:18:05.519 I'm keeping a real mob deep or m O P 1:18:07.120 --> 1:18:10.519 mam Okay, I love m O P too. Billy and 1:18:10.680 --> 1:18:14.040 Fame two of my favorite dudes to be around, because 1:18:14.040 --> 1:18:17.479 they're just such great dudes. And it's it's wonderful to 1:18:17.560 --> 1:18:21.040 see m ops growth right, like they've grown men. Now 1:18:21.920 --> 1:18:27.960 they got family. It's great. Like the niggas was scary, 1:18:28.439 --> 1:18:31.560 m O b was scary niggas, but Mom, because you know, 1:18:31.720 --> 1:18:36.160 Havoc is so ill and recipes and lifetime in between 1:18:36.200 --> 1:18:36.960 the papers. 1:18:36.720 --> 1:18:39.000 Lines on the quiet strong niggas who fight rounds p 1:18:39.200 --> 1:18:39.920 y you heard of them? 1:18:40.439 --> 1:18:44.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah a mob deep bro Peper or 1:18:45.000 --> 1:18:48.639 jj Fad Salt and Pepper all day. That's not even close. 1:18:48.760 --> 1:18:48.960 Yeah. 1:18:48.960 --> 1:18:52.880 I love JJ Fat too, but you don't have the history, 1:18:53.280 --> 1:18:55.400 the amount of hits and all that ship that Salt 1:18:55.439 --> 1:18:56.479 and Pepper had, Yes. 1:18:57.320 --> 1:19:00.600 To push it video push Yeah, ain't get up. I 1:19:00.680 --> 1:19:04.120 was at that video said push push it, get up. 1:19:05.080 --> 1:19:09.360 Everybody get up. My nigga acts Trench. Did you trust 1:19:09.400 --> 1:19:12.000 tell y'all introduced him the Pepper? Did he tell us 1:19:12.040 --> 1:19:14.599 that nigga? I had a crush on Pepper? I sent 1:19:14.680 --> 1:19:18.519 Pepper teddy Man flyers on telling Yeah, she didn't like me, 1:19:18.960 --> 1:19:19.920 how about I'm good with that. 1:19:20.520 --> 1:19:23.920 She liked Trench, So what's at the screen break? And 1:19:24.040 --> 1:19:25.240 she was like, what's up with Trash? 1:19:25.640 --> 1:19:26.720 And I was like, but what's up with me? 1:19:26.880 --> 1:19:27.800 He's like trash? 1:19:28.439 --> 1:19:30.479 She liked trash and I was like, yo, treusch Pep 1:19:30.520 --> 1:19:33.360 want to holler at you. And then Pepper turned around, 1:19:33.400 --> 1:19:36.719 introduced me to my first wife, and me and Trench 1:19:36.840 --> 1:19:38.800 laugh all the time because none of this shit worked out. 1:19:41.560 --> 1:19:43.360 We do get vid, We got beautiful kids out of 1:19:43.360 --> 1:19:44.280 the wet. 1:19:47.600 --> 1:19:48.839 I wasn't ready for the explanation. 1:19:49.240 --> 1:19:53.679 Click rigger Andre three thousand. God damn drinking drinking because 1:19:53.680 --> 1:19:54.960 I gotta take in long chevity. 1:19:55.479 --> 1:19:59.639 I'm drinking. I'm drinking three thousands. 1:19:59.640 --> 1:20:02.439 Ain't doing goddamn three thousands one of the ellis. But 1:20:02.600 --> 1:20:06.759 slick Rick has been sampled, probably as a rap artist 1:20:06.800 --> 1:20:07.760 more than anybody else. 1:20:07.880 --> 1:20:08.519 Like his voice. 1:20:08.680 --> 1:20:11.120 He almost James Brown a rat. Yeah, absolutely, and that 1:20:11.200 --> 1:20:14.639 Great Adventures of slick Rick is such a fucking moment 1:20:14.720 --> 1:20:17.840 I feared he's still doing it crazy. My favorite slick 1:20:17.960 --> 1:20:23.160 Rick shit is uh uh. The pussy started going and 1:20:24.600 --> 1:20:26.320 he grabbed his clothes. He wanted to leave this place. 1:20:26.360 --> 1:20:28.080 At the first he wanted to see the vagina face 1:20:28.160 --> 1:20:30.120 to face. He opened it up with his bad two 1:20:30.200 --> 1:20:32.000 Dumbeys hall crabs with speeds and then. 1:20:34.280 --> 1:20:34.840 Nobody can do. 1:20:36.160 --> 1:20:39.479 Everybody that does double rhyns, everybody that eat from sloop 1:20:39.880 --> 1:20:42.160 to give me the loot, give me alu by Biggie 1:20:42.200 --> 1:20:44.639 that do two different people is because of slick Rick. 1:20:45.000 --> 1:20:47.519 And he gave us Dana Dane the Kingo Crew. So 1:20:47.560 --> 1:20:52.439 I'm gonna give Slick his props all ways, but three 1:20:52.520 --> 1:20:55.400 thousand had a longer Wait wait, wait tell him. I 1:20:55.520 --> 1:20:57.759 threw a slick Rick and Dana Dane used to battle 1:20:57.800 --> 1:20:59.240 each other. They were in the same crew called the 1:20:59.320 --> 1:21:03.400 Kingo Crew. But they but but but wait a minute, they. 1:21:05.479 --> 1:21:08.400 Were a crew called the Kingo Crew. Fan's right, Slick 1:21:08.479 --> 1:21:10.759 Rick Dana day. Oh, we said they have beef. 1:21:11.040 --> 1:21:14.720 No, no, wow the niggas what ballet's in and you 1:21:14.800 --> 1:21:16.479 know all them ship the fly Baallet's in the fly 1:21:16.680 --> 1:21:17.320 green socks. 1:21:17.840 --> 1:21:22.800 Wow, you picked Andre? I have to pick Andre. He did. 1:21:23.960 --> 1:21:27.240 Jeffuary the shot. We took a shot. Took a shot. 1:21:27.960 --> 1:21:30.000 Don't bind me. I'm drunk. I want to make sure 1:21:30.040 --> 1:21:33.400 we accurate. Okay, I took the shot. I'm all right. 1:21:34.479 --> 1:21:39.240 Oh the symphony Hatbanger Symphony, he said that quick. Yeah, 1:21:39.320 --> 1:21:41.840 like that symphony. The head bangers are pretty important too, 1:21:41.880 --> 1:21:42.759 though very important. 1:21:42.800 --> 1:21:47.000 But but the symphony. No, no, absolutely, because there's no scenario. 1:21:49.800 --> 1:21:52.040 But I'm gonna take I'm gonna take this. I'm gonna 1:21:52.040 --> 1:21:54.439 take the symphony just because Kate said put a quart. 1:21:54.320 --> 1:21:56.439 In your ass and he played yourself. That was crazy 1:21:56.439 --> 1:21:59.080 and it's one of the first possas like that, Yeah right, 1:21:59.680 --> 1:22:02.120 fat as Scoop or Biz Markey rest in peace to 1:22:02.160 --> 1:22:04.040 both rest poth them take a shot. 1:22:04.200 --> 1:22:04.400 Yeah. 1:22:04.479 --> 1:22:07.120 I would never disrespect either one of them. This was 1:22:07.160 --> 1:22:12.840 a friend. Scoop was a friend. School was a friend. School. 1:22:13.320 --> 1:22:15.080 I put Scoop on the radio. Wow. 1:22:15.320 --> 1:22:19.599 People don't know that via not directly saying highest Scoop, 1:22:19.880 --> 1:22:22.720 But Scoop worked for Tommy Boy and he would come 1:22:22.760 --> 1:22:25.760 around with the big bottle of Scope all the time 1:22:25.960 --> 1:22:28.120 and he would try to listen to this record, listen 1:22:28.160 --> 1:22:30.280 to this record, and I say, brother, why do you 1:22:30.360 --> 1:22:32.040 have this? Why do you got this? I just call 1:22:32.160 --> 1:22:34.960 him big Scope and he was liked, brother, you gotta 1:22:34.960 --> 1:22:37.160 be you got to be friends. You can't be talking 1:22:37.160 --> 1:22:39.960 when you're talking to the program directed brother right on, 1:22:40.080 --> 1:22:40.760 Brother solid goal. 1:22:40.760 --> 1:22:41.360 At least say that. 1:22:41.760 --> 1:22:43.800 So we took to go do a drop to say, 1:22:44.000 --> 1:22:47.240 listen Andre at Lisa on the radio, fat Man School 1:22:47.360 --> 1:22:49.560 right on Brother Solid Goal. And we started playing that 1:22:50.040 --> 1:22:52.280 this Steve Smith rest in Peace and was like who 1:22:52.400 --> 1:22:54.040 is that guy? And I was like, that's the guy 1:22:54.120 --> 1:22:57.280 from Tommy Boy. Yeah, wow, you know. 1:22:57.960 --> 1:23:01.000 And I feel terrible because we hadmunications for him to 1:23:01.040 --> 1:23:02.840 come on and it's like a lot of people and 1:23:03.000 --> 1:23:04.200 just never ends up happening. 1:23:04.320 --> 1:23:06.280 Grand Dad, that you is my biggest thing, like that. 1:23:06.439 --> 1:23:08.439 I wanted to make it happen. You didn't get you know. 1:23:08.680 --> 1:23:10.519 That's my favorite rapper of all time. I heard you 1:23:10.560 --> 1:23:10.840 say that. 1:23:13.320 --> 1:23:18.559 I love grand brood Daddy. That's hard, right then, only 1:23:18.680 --> 1:23:24.080 built for Cuban links A reasonable doubt ship, drinking, Yeah, okay, drinking. 1:23:24.880 --> 1:23:25.519 I can't do that. 1:23:26.000 --> 1:23:30.240 I can't do that, and is that both day first person, 1:23:30.600 --> 1:23:31.400 first solo album? 1:23:32.360 --> 1:23:34.439 And Jay was right, we laying down on reasonable Now. 1:23:34.479 --> 1:23:35.960 No, I ain't gonna lie to you. I always say 1:23:36.000 --> 1:23:39.080 this on this show. I always say reasonable doubt went 1:23:39.120 --> 1:23:40.360 over my head because I think I. 1:23:40.400 --> 1:23:43.439 Was broke at that time. Like maybe that for me, 1:23:43.600 --> 1:23:45.719 for me, like not for you, but for me, because 1:23:45.880 --> 1:23:46.640 he stays I. 1:23:46.720 --> 1:23:48.439 Wasn't broke, but I still wasn't doing the ship. He 1:23:48.680 --> 1:23:51.240 wasn't laying to certain ship. And then years later I 1:23:51.360 --> 1:23:55.679 was like, I get it down, but is it twenty 1:23:55.720 --> 1:23:57.040 two that what he said? 1:23:57.040 --> 1:23:59.599 He said a four point on a four point six, 1:23:59.680 --> 1:24:02.120 You said forty grands, Oh my god, I can be there, 1:24:02.240 --> 1:24:03.559 And I was like, damn, I didn't know there. 1:24:03.479 --> 1:24:06.559 Was a difference like the game was in my lifetime, 1:24:06.720 --> 1:24:10.040 was like, what the fuck? Yeah? This yeah, no was 1:24:10.160 --> 1:24:11.040 JA was ill man. 1:24:11.479 --> 1:24:13.200 When Jay say we don't drive a file as we 1:24:13.240 --> 1:24:16.720 get him the baby mothers, I was like, God, damn Niggasu. 1:24:20.120 --> 1:24:21.080 Niggas out in the street. 1:24:21.600 --> 1:24:24.479 Je niggas take from the range robe and take the 1:24:24.520 --> 1:24:26.479 four point on plat off the back of the range 1:24:26.520 --> 1:24:30.080 row because the four point six scrolls about forty thousand 1:24:30.120 --> 1:24:30.599 dollars more. 1:24:30.720 --> 1:24:32.000 He made niggas actually. 1:24:31.760 --> 1:24:33.439 Get a fuck if you had a four point on 1:24:33.560 --> 1:24:36.320 you took to get ship off. Jay's influence on pop 1:24:36.400 --> 1:24:38.440 culture is unmatched. 1:24:38.640 --> 1:24:40.479 And he made you wear throwbacks and he made you 1:24:40.520 --> 1:24:42.200 take off. He made you wear the throw back and 1:24:42.240 --> 1:24:43.479 then he took the ship off. 1:24:44.080 --> 1:24:46.920 I don't wear throw backs from the first player jeans 1:24:47.000 --> 1:24:47.759 Nigga buttoning. 1:24:47.560 --> 1:24:50.720 Up, niggas buttoning up. We're all butting up. Jay z 1:24:50.920 --> 1:24:52.120 s like no. 1:24:54.040 --> 1:24:58.160 Love hold man, whole man. That Nigga's social impact is readdigu. 1:25:01.240 --> 1:25:04.360 Yeah he stay in the Dominican section. Nigga, Hey, hey, hey, 1:25:04.760 --> 1:25:06.479 we did speaking to a letting Mark Yo. We did. 1:25:06.600 --> 1:25:08.840 We did powerhouse. We did a powerhouse one time. 1:25:09.000 --> 1:25:12.479 Right, So the Bentley Dealership I mean, I mean the 1:25:12.640 --> 1:25:14.479 Mercedes dealership in Manhattan. 1:25:15.040 --> 1:25:16.800 Let me holding may Back for the night. 1:25:17.320 --> 1:25:19.160 So I come to the Powerhouse and I parked my 1:25:19.240 --> 1:25:22.920 may Back downstairs next to jay Z's Mayback to my 1:25:23.000 --> 1:25:23.640 ship right there. 1:25:24.280 --> 1:25:27.680 So after the show, Jay go, Yo, who'se Mayback? Is 1:25:27.760 --> 1:25:31.000 that right there? I say that that's me Hope. So, oh, Eddie, man, 1:25:31.200 --> 1:25:31.960 I'll see what you're doing. 1:25:32.120 --> 1:25:34.160 Yo. Let's go to forty forty club. So me and 1:25:34.240 --> 1:25:36.680 this nigga get in and day back to may Back. 1:25:36.760 --> 1:25:38.760 I got me and my man d my assister were 1:25:38.800 --> 1:25:40.519 rolling Jay and Beyonce another joint. 1:25:40.560 --> 1:25:40.880 We rolling. 1:25:40.920 --> 1:25:43.320 We're going to forty forty club. Traffic is crazy going 1:25:43.400 --> 1:25:45.639 through the Lincoln Tunnel. Jay rolling window around, he waving 1:25:45.680 --> 1:25:47.840 that people. Nigg I rolled the window down and it's like, 1:25:47.920 --> 1:25:52.599 fuck me. But I had to tell a nigga at 1:25:52.640 --> 1:25:54.880 the night. We want you to know that's not my 1:25:55.000 --> 1:25:58.560 may back. It's a loaner because the next time you 1:25:58.600 --> 1:26:02.400 see me, I'm in a hot cord. Yeah, make back 1:26:02.479 --> 1:26:04.919 that night in front of that that Eddie. 1:26:08.840 --> 1:26:10.519 Do that. You can't do that. 1:26:11.120 --> 1:26:17.320 You ain't gonna see this ship tomorrow. A big L 1:26:17.920 --> 1:26:23.360 Biggie L's life is cut too short. Yeah, big amazing man, 1:26:23.439 --> 1:26:24.839 he would have been fucking amazing. 1:26:24.960 --> 1:26:26.920 Yea. I ain't gonna take nothing away from Big. 1:26:27.320 --> 1:26:29.479 Signed the rocket. Big he would have signed the rocket. 1:26:29.600 --> 1:26:32.200 Oh my God, that whole was the children of the corn, 1:26:32.880 --> 1:26:38.000 all them cam Him's bloodshed, God rest his soul. 1:26:38.080 --> 1:26:43.360 And Big l Niggas was lyrical right there, Bro's Big lyrical. 1:26:43.439 --> 1:26:45.720 I watched it. It is what it is, what it is. 1:26:46.880 --> 1:26:51.720 Both still they still murder Mason. I'm I'm still waiting 1:26:51.720 --> 1:26:52.880 for you to go in one day. 1:26:52.760 --> 1:27:01.560 To drinks and look like, say want at first then 1:27:07.720 --> 1:27:09.680 and I would say, y'all niggas inspired me. 1:27:09.880 --> 1:27:12.840 Chet this out though, Yeah, them niggas right there, man, Yeah, 1:27:12.920 --> 1:27:17.960 Big Lay he was eighties or nineties hip hop nineties. Okay, 1:27:18.280 --> 1:27:21.240 queens or Brooklyn queens all day. I knew that I 1:27:21.360 --> 1:27:23.240 was born in Brooklyn, but it's going to be queens 1:27:23.280 --> 1:27:25.160 all day. Who's the Man or Juice? 1:27:25.160 --> 1:27:28.599 Come on, you guys, are juice really? Yeah? Yeah? 1:27:28.640 --> 1:27:29.839 Yeah, I was gonna say. 1:27:30.080 --> 1:27:34.280 Juice had a bigger impact than Who's the Man? Dad? 1:27:35.200 --> 1:27:38.559 Whose man was dope? But Juice was better't I didn't 1:27:38.640 --> 1:27:40.880 think that? Do you think how people say that they 1:27:41.000 --> 1:27:46.679 think that drinking wrong? You think that Park playing bishop. 1:27:46.920 --> 1:27:50.240 Really, people think he took on the former bishop. He 1:27:50.360 --> 1:27:52.639 was already that way, right, That's when them young niggas 1:27:52.680 --> 1:27:55.519 as seventeen and that's what they think. No, that was 1:27:55.560 --> 1:27:58.080 already he was already on. That was he was always 1:27:58.080 --> 1:27:59.760 going to be pop. Wow, it was gonna be No. 1:28:00.240 --> 1:28:03.439 No. Juice was absolutely the catalyst that blew him. 1:28:03.479 --> 1:28:09.439 They just showed how talented he was. Absolutely right. Fat 1:28:09.479 --> 1:28:10.559 boys are the beastie boys. 1:28:11.439 --> 1:28:11.960 I'm drinking. 1:28:13.400 --> 1:28:16.000 I'm drinking and the only reason why I'm drinking is 1:28:16.000 --> 1:28:18.800 because Charlie used to manage the fat boys and they 1:28:18.880 --> 1:28:21.320 had an impact. They had a huge impact. I think 1:28:21.360 --> 1:28:25.360 they don't get enough. People forget about them. People forget heavy, 1:28:25.400 --> 1:28:26.360 and I don't know why they do that. 1:28:27.520 --> 1:28:33.000 We were talking about heavy heavy then Biggie pun Yeah okay, 1:28:33.160 --> 1:28:35.320 but have made it cool to be a big name. 1:28:35.439 --> 1:28:37.760 Yeah okay. After the fat boys was first, but fat 1:28:37.800 --> 1:28:41.400 boys more novelty. They were not to say like that 1:28:41.400 --> 1:28:43.400 because I loved the fat boys, but they wouldn't fly. 1:28:43.640 --> 1:28:46.320 They was fat boys. They were fat boys. You you 1:28:46.400 --> 1:28:49.439 were cool, fat boy. It was cool and it was 1:28:49.479 --> 1:28:52.439 cool because I'm flop with all that stuff. I'm making 1:28:52.520 --> 1:28:57.559 dance in France to you and pumps no way of me. You' 1:28:57.760 --> 1:29:00.679 miss stuff, big stuff niggas like I'm big nigga. Yeah, 1:29:00.880 --> 1:29:01.599 that's it's cool. 1:29:01.760 --> 1:29:04.040 Heavy was flying fucked your big and Doss Sales went 1:29:04.080 --> 1:29:08.000 to the room. Yeah, absolutely, Rochester big and but what 1:29:08.080 --> 1:29:09.960 fat boys did? I think also for hip hop is 1:29:09.960 --> 1:29:13.160 also entered the Hollywood space with this. They did, they 1:29:13.200 --> 1:29:15.920 did like and they were image. 1:29:16.280 --> 1:29:19.679 They shotted that and then after that came Uh Canning 1:29:19.760 --> 1:29:21.960 playing ship yep, and then right after that came Lo 1:29:22.120 --> 1:29:22.439 was the Man. 1:29:22.560 --> 1:29:24.880 They opened the door for up. That's why I think 1:29:24.880 --> 1:29:27.000 they're underrated and they deserve more props. 1:29:27.439 --> 1:29:36.519 Analog or digital. Analog, Thank you analog, because digital is 1:29:36.840 --> 1:29:40.400 any and everybody. Analog you had to be good, like 1:29:40.520 --> 1:29:44.400 what analog. You had to spin three hundred dollars on 1:29:44.479 --> 1:29:47.320 a two inch tape and you couldn't fuck the ship 1:29:47.439 --> 1:29:49.599 up and you couldn't do it in your base We're 1:29:49.640 --> 1:29:50.479 going to start with, right, You. 1:29:50.479 --> 1:29:51.599 Couldn't do it in your basement. 1:29:51.680 --> 1:29:54.000 You couldn't get in the studio studio one hundred and 1:29:54.000 --> 1:29:57.960 fifty two hundred three fifty an hour. Yeah, unless she 1:29:58.080 --> 1:30:01.360 was at the ship and Queen or maybe DN d 1:30:01.560 --> 1:30:06.280 Early you could have fought no fucking studio time, No analog. Definitely, 1:30:06.400 --> 1:30:09.360 That's why the sale of vinyl is gone through the roof, 1:30:09.720 --> 1:30:13.840 because analog is just better. It's better because you went 1:30:13.960 --> 1:30:17.880 to the store to get the record. You went to 1:30:18.000 --> 1:30:20.880 the store. I remember when get Richard died, trying came 1:30:20.920 --> 1:30:23.200 out and Christmas my next door neighbor, but he didn't 1:30:23.200 --> 1:30:24.759 even have a copy for me. And I was running 1:30:24.760 --> 1:30:27.080 around the record store is trying to find trying to 1:30:27.160 --> 1:30:30.439 find canes, long liveded Cane, trying to find that record 1:30:30.479 --> 1:30:34.080 so I can have the hard copy. Y'all have look 1:30:34.080 --> 1:30:39.599 a man, Remember you said about owning your music, throwing 1:30:39.600 --> 1:30:41.080 around my record breaking up. 1:30:44.920 --> 1:30:47.519 I remember the stuff you gave me on racks. I 1:30:47.680 --> 1:30:48.280 still have it. 1:30:48.760 --> 1:30:51.120 That ship means something to me. Like Bojo said, if 1:30:51.120 --> 1:30:53.120 I don't pay my phone bill, I lose my music. 1:30:53.880 --> 1:30:54.400 I own it. 1:30:55.000 --> 1:30:57.280 It's it's a different thing. So I'm gonna go analog. Yeah, 1:30:57.439 --> 1:31:01.240 I love that. I love that Kris Won or cool 1:31:01.280 --> 1:31:01.639 Gie Wrap. 1:31:02.320 --> 1:31:06.400 I'm drinking, okay, yeah, I'm drinking. I'm drinking only because 1:31:06.439 --> 1:31:11.800 g rappings from queens. We drinking Boden and Chris is 1:31:11.840 --> 1:31:17.760 one of the Ellis Niggas. Oh man, I can't treat 1:31:17.800 --> 1:31:18.719 that both to riches. 1:31:19.840 --> 1:31:21.640 I feel like I'm cheating because as we go on, 1:31:21.760 --> 1:31:24.600 the shots get smooth. They do not get harsher, they 1:31:24.640 --> 1:31:27.679 get smoothly. That's an illusion. 1:31:27.880 --> 1:31:33.400 Now we're pappy Pappy. I was just pat delicious. Yes, 1:31:33.439 --> 1:31:38.320 it's delicious, red lure or kicking pree mm hmm. Drinking okay, 1:31:38.920 --> 1:31:43.360 cheerious than send them two legends. Yeah I'm drinking. 1:31:46.880 --> 1:31:47.200 For real? 1:31:47.360 --> 1:31:52.840 Or yeah, drinking? Damn Now I feel like he just 1:31:52.880 --> 1:31:55.560 wanted to drink. Drinking drinking. 1:31:57.400 --> 1:31:59.720 Ain't telling us no stories and he's started for Oh yeah, 1:32:00.040 --> 1:32:00.439 what yay? 1:32:01.439 --> 1:32:02.519 Me and my man Tom. 1:32:02.760 --> 1:32:04.880 Big up to my man Tom, one of my best friends, 1:32:05.360 --> 1:32:07.160 one of the first ones to ever do parties in 1:32:07.240 --> 1:32:10.920 Mars twenty one twelve, Yeah, we did a Latrell's free Well, 1:32:10.960 --> 1:32:11.760 welcome to New York. 1:32:12.160 --> 1:32:13.439 Can I stop me for one second? 1:32:13.560 --> 1:32:16.160 Yeah, let me just describe what he just described to 1:32:16.240 --> 1:32:18.200 you that Mars w one twelve, was that what year? 1:32:18.240 --> 1:32:19.160 Can you tell us what year? 1:32:19.800 --> 1:32:21.519 Because I wanted to tell you And where's this place? 1:32:21.600 --> 1:32:26.040 This is in New York City? This is New York Square, Right. 1:32:26.720 --> 1:32:29.600 I couldn't get in this club at all. I wanted to. 1:32:29.920 --> 1:32:32.920 I wanted to know what year is this is? It 1:32:33.040 --> 1:32:35.479 is a welcome to New York LA Trou's Freewell just 1:32:35.560 --> 1:32:37.840 signed to the New York Can you can you figure out? 1:32:37.880 --> 1:32:42.479 So Paul on the sports LATREUS three well signing to 1:32:42.560 --> 1:32:43.200 the New York next? 1:32:44.479 --> 1:32:45.360 Yes, what is this? 1:32:45.520 --> 1:32:48.560 And outside the club was a young man by the 1:32:48.640 --> 1:32:50.599 name of Kanye West that couldn't get in the party. 1:32:51.160 --> 1:32:53.120 And he introduced himself to me, said, my name is 1:32:53.160 --> 1:32:56.680 Kanye West. I'm ana producer. I produced for Rockefeller. I'm 1:32:56.720 --> 1:32:58.920 over here, and what do I need to pay to 1:32:58.960 --> 1:33:00.560 get in the party? And I said, man, you just 1:33:00.640 --> 1:33:02.640 come on and you're down with hovering up? 1:33:03.200 --> 1:33:07.760 Yeah, come on in? Yeah? And for real he was, 1:33:07.880 --> 1:33:10.240 you know he was, you know, for real? Is the 1:33:10.320 --> 1:33:14.559 motherfucker that wrote All I want to Do is that's 1:33:14.600 --> 1:33:16.720 a classic classic right there? Yeah? 1:33:16.840 --> 1:33:19.640 Yeah, you know, Teddy do the talent show to get 1:33:19.720 --> 1:33:21.920 the niggas a deal and them niggas is producing. 1:33:22.080 --> 1:33:24.519 Teddy was taking the credit, you know, yeah. 1:33:24.640 --> 1:33:27.600 Beef between tribing them. But yeah, that was crazy. That 1:33:27.640 --> 1:33:28.000 was crazy. 1:33:28.200 --> 1:33:31.160 Yeah, but I can't I can't choose Clips or dog 1:33:31.280 --> 1:33:33.400 Pound Clips. 1:33:34.479 --> 1:33:36.400 Push your t is one of my favorite mcs bro 1:33:37.000 --> 1:33:39.160 and with him and Malas together, my nigga. 1:33:39.600 --> 1:33:42.400 The ship them niggas was saying. The ship they were saying. 1:33:42.320 --> 1:33:44.920 Was real like drugs dealers, like real drug dealers. Knew 1:33:44.920 --> 1:33:47.280 that they were telling the truth. It wasn't like making 1:33:47.400 --> 1:33:49.519 up ship like you were telling me. You could tell. 1:33:50.920 --> 1:33:52.479 Like he was like he was like a print so 1:33:52.600 --> 1:33:54.679 I could do this and that. Two little black niggas 1:33:54.720 --> 1:33:58.960 fight like that. Like no, they were real and really quick. 1:33:59.400 --> 1:34:01.760 Dog Pound new album is dope, and I'm looking forward 1:34:01.800 --> 1:34:05.120 to the new Clips. Yeah, I heard about the Clips album. 1:34:05.120 --> 1:34:06.120 I'm very excited. 1:34:07.120 --> 1:34:10.360 I like when niggas don't stop making records, that's a 1:34:10.439 --> 1:34:11.680 sign that got a new album out. 1:34:11.760 --> 1:34:14.000 I love the ship. I just like when niggas just 1:34:14.080 --> 1:34:14.880 don't stop, like. 1:34:14.920 --> 1:34:18.160 You don't outgrow and and are in general like the 1:34:18.280 --> 1:34:22.000 other art form. They don't stop and still got ready 1:34:22.160 --> 1:34:23.920 coming out while we got to stop. 1:34:24.120 --> 1:34:26.200 One one is going to church and one is still 1:34:26.280 --> 1:34:28.880 drug dealing. But they both went. You know what, that's balance, 1:34:29.360 --> 1:34:30.000 that's balanced. 1:34:30.160 --> 1:34:34.600 Malas is back announces performing again with his brother. Yeah, drinking. 1:34:35.920 --> 1:34:38.360 Anna sit, I feel like he's gonna be on that 1:34:38.439 --> 1:34:40.520 rock ship, like it's gonna be hardcore. 1:34:40.280 --> 1:34:42.160 Praising the Lord. I don't respect that. He ain't gonna 1:34:42.200 --> 1:34:44.840 say no crazy ship. But he out in the clubs again. 1:34:45.200 --> 1:34:48.600 I respect that too. Yeah, son, God bless you me 1:34:49.360 --> 1:34:51.360 with you at least in the Louis guitar clubs. I've 1:34:51.360 --> 1:34:56.519 seen him in there, Brand Nubian or Tripical Quest. 1:34:56.479 --> 1:35:00.799 Try and there's nothing against my I got a personal 1:35:00.880 --> 1:35:02.519 relationship with Lord Jamal. 1:35:02.680 --> 1:35:05.040 That's my man. My wife and his wife are really 1:35:05.040 --> 1:35:06.760 good friends. That's my man. 1:35:06.880 --> 1:35:11.120 But Tribe bro low in Theory Midnight Marauder's tribe bro 1:35:12.120 --> 1:35:17.000 Tri Tribe was the Layman's Daylight Soul Tribe was more relatable, 1:35:17.120 --> 1:35:21.720 you can because Daylight so ron patterns, was so fucking incredible. 1:35:22.160 --> 1:35:23.680 But a lot of times he was like, what is 1:35:23.720 --> 1:35:24.719 these niggas talking about? 1:35:25.360 --> 1:35:29.080 And Daylight came technically first, right, yeah, just because said 1:35:29.160 --> 1:35:30.000 I look acute. 1:35:30.520 --> 1:35:34.320 He say black and black, remember, Yeah. But besides that, 1:35:35.280 --> 1:35:37.120 a lot of the ship to be like, what is 1:35:37.160 --> 1:35:37.800 they talking about? 1:35:38.479 --> 1:35:38.519 It? 1:35:40.800 --> 1:35:42.840 It's one of my favorite records, and I kind of 1:35:43.080 --> 1:35:44.360 still don't know what they're talking about. 1:35:44.400 --> 1:35:46.200 From you know what it is that we're all just 1:35:46.280 --> 1:35:49.360 getting daylight now like all the props unfortunately that. 1:35:51.040 --> 1:35:53.960 But we just get It's like they deserve everything they was. 1:35:54.040 --> 1:36:00.479 What where everybody talking about relationship goals lots day that's 1:36:00.560 --> 1:36:03.439 relationship goes. They could do whatever they were and none 1:36:03.439 --> 1:36:06.240 of the niggas ever made a solo record, Positive and 1:36:06.520 --> 1:36:09.680 Dove never went so long they did they together, They 1:36:09.720 --> 1:36:12.599 could have easy, you know the way the Locks respect 1:36:12.640 --> 1:36:13.920 each other to do their solo ship. 1:36:13.960 --> 1:36:16.800 But they're still Locks no matter what. They respect their 1:36:16.840 --> 1:36:19.880 group more than they respect Yeah. Well yeah, but Jada, 1:36:19.920 --> 1:36:22.200 them niggas get Jada and Style is getting that solo 1:36:22.280 --> 1:36:25.280 money and she absolutely getting that solo money. Motherfucker. 1:36:25.400 --> 1:36:28.479 Jada is getting ready to come to Cobb County, Georgia, 1:36:28.560 --> 1:36:29.880 cop Energy Center coming up. 1:36:29.920 --> 1:36:36.760 I think in December with a symphony. Uncle Street'll be 1:36:36.880 --> 1:36:39.080 there to shout out to Jada. Now that's Jada by 1:36:39.120 --> 1:36:40.000 itself or the hotel. 1:36:40.360 --> 1:36:44.360 Of course the Locks will be there's Bill as Jadakiss 1:36:44.439 --> 1:36:47.760 like Jadakiss pause in Panama with Jadakiss man doing some 1:36:47.880 --> 1:36:52.559 ship with them for somebody didn't think Florida, Panama, Panama 1:36:52.680 --> 1:36:55.080 and I got to hung out, hang out with Jada 1:36:55.600 --> 1:36:57.880 and my nigga the ship that he was some of 1:36:57.920 --> 1:36:59.519 the ship. He was telling me, like, Yo, I got 1:36:59.600 --> 1:37:00.800 tired of get apart from my ship. 1:37:00.880 --> 1:37:01.120 Nigga. 1:37:01.720 --> 1:37:04.240 Like a lot of niggas didn't know until the beef, 1:37:04.560 --> 1:37:05.960 until the day until the. 1:37:07.520 --> 1:37:09.920 Ship, people didn't know that that nigga rose. So what 1:37:10.040 --> 1:37:12.960 you want to do? Only you know your DJ. 1:37:13.240 --> 1:37:15.280 A lot of the regular niggas ain't know that he 1:37:15.360 --> 1:37:16.040 wrote that ship. 1:37:16.600 --> 1:37:20.840 Ain't know that that's well they got out of Dodge 1:37:23.320 --> 1:37:27.920 the Rock or Rough Riders Rock Rock. 1:37:28.000 --> 1:37:30.479 Jay z is too is to important access to because 1:37:30.560 --> 1:37:32.479 X was like, what the only nigga that had to 1:37:32.880 --> 1:37:33.839 number one album. 1:37:33.640 --> 1:37:38.840 In the same year, but he put up Yeah, last 1:37:38.880 --> 1:37:40.320 question a quick time slime, did you get back to 1:37:40.320 --> 1:37:46.880 the interview? Loyalty or respect? Respect? Why? 1:37:47.760 --> 1:37:51.560 Because loyalty wanes depending on what you're giving. If you 1:37:51.720 --> 1:37:54.839 keep giving, motherfucker's gonna be loyal to you. But respect 1:37:55.080 --> 1:37:58.880 lasts a whole lot longer. Like me, I have been 1:37:58.960 --> 1:38:01.920 respected for such a long time that I would rather 1:38:02.040 --> 1:38:03.679 have respecting fake loyalty. 1:38:03.760 --> 1:38:07.360 Loyalty sometimes comes at the courts. Respect pretty much does 1:38:07.400 --> 1:38:09.360 to come at the court. So I would rather be 1:38:09.479 --> 1:38:14.800 respected Okay, this makes a noise for that. Now. Is 1:38:14.840 --> 1:38:16.680 it true you and miss Jones had a beef at 1:38:16.680 --> 1:38:17.080 one point? 1:38:17.720 --> 1:38:20.519 Yeah, because she was with Staring Buck wilding them in 1:38:20.560 --> 1:38:23.200 the morning, talking reckless about me and I'm don't want 1:38:23.200 --> 1:38:24.639 to put it on the radio, but it's all going 1:38:24.720 --> 1:38:25.320 under the bridge. 1:38:25.479 --> 1:38:28.240 But what happened, like I mean, especially if it's water 1:38:28.320 --> 1:38:30.559 under the bridge and it's all gone. So what happened? 1:38:30.960 --> 1:38:33.560 You put Miss Joe Jones came because she had that 1:38:33.640 --> 1:38:35.000 way I want to be joint out. 1:38:36.439 --> 1:38:36.479 It. 1:38:36.720 --> 1:38:39.240 Yeah, And I liked her and I thought she was dope. 1:38:39.320 --> 1:38:41.880 And I told Steve about her because she was up 1:38:41.920 --> 1:38:43.320 there a lot and see Smith. 1:38:43.240 --> 1:38:43.840 Steve Smith. 1:38:43.880 --> 1:38:45.280 And then she got with them and there was some 1:38:45.439 --> 1:38:48.000 words said, you know about us when we was at 1:38:48.080 --> 1:38:50.600 Power and they think they were still at Hot ninety seven, and. 1:38:51.000 --> 1:38:53.320 You know, they took go on a beef for Hot 1:38:53.400 --> 1:38:53.920 ninety seven. 1:38:54.120 --> 1:38:55.720 They was for Hot ninety seven and me and Dre 1:38:55.840 --> 1:38:58.720 and came back from LA and Wiz on Power. There's 1:38:58.760 --> 1:39:01.360 some foul ship said, and I was like, remember I 1:39:01.680 --> 1:39:03.400 got on the phone. I was like, Jonesy, we don't 1:39:03.400 --> 1:39:05.800 own these stations. What the fuck are we talking about? Right? 1:39:05.840 --> 1:39:08.240 Now, but but you know it's crazy. 1:39:09.280 --> 1:39:11.160 I remember at one point I could go to South 1:39:11.240 --> 1:39:13.960 Carolina and they could hear me in North Carolina. 1:39:14.160 --> 1:39:16.639 Immdiation, like they didn't have no beef. 1:39:17.240 --> 1:39:22.559 Immediately when New York opened up another station beef from 1:39:22.640 --> 1:39:25.280 the get on the gate, it was like it was 1:39:25.400 --> 1:39:27.920 like bloods and grips, like like I mean, let me 1:39:28.000 --> 1:39:32.280 not say that because if you have, because you went 1:39:32.320 --> 1:39:35.800 to because that power. Okay, So this drive us the 1:39:35.880 --> 1:39:38.080 situation because outside is looking in. 1:39:39.600 --> 1:39:42.719 You guys to us. And I had beef with Murder 1:39:42.760 --> 1:39:49.200 Height what the fuck? Yeah? How I had beef for 1:39:49.360 --> 1:39:49.880 Murder Inc. 1:39:50.000 --> 1:39:53.040 Because one of the dudes that they had signed to 1:39:53.160 --> 1:39:56.800 the label had got shot and killed an ol'connell Park, 1:39:56.960 --> 1:39:57.559 a young dude. 1:39:57.600 --> 1:39:58.840 I can't his name, God rest. 1:39:59.680 --> 1:40:02.400 And I said something, and I said, it's no disrespect 1:40:03.040 --> 1:40:08.320 to death Row or Murder Ink, but there's a certain 1:40:08.479 --> 1:40:11.080 order that's going to happen when you name your company 1:40:11.760 --> 1:40:14.800 something like that. I said, death Jam was d e 1:40:15.120 --> 1:40:18.320 F Jam, And I said, no disrespect. They went on 1:40:18.479 --> 1:40:22.280 staring buck while trashing me. Wow on me, it's soft 1:40:23.240 --> 1:40:26.519 murdy ruling, ruling, fucking herb. 1:40:27.600 --> 1:40:33.680 And I called my sister My sister was the receptionists 1:40:33.720 --> 1:40:34.280 in Death Jam. 1:40:34.520 --> 1:40:37.840 Oh Wow Wow song your numbers my sister and I 1:40:37.920 --> 1:40:40.400 told my sister, I said, tell her I'm coming up 1:40:40.400 --> 1:40:42.559 there to see him. She said, don't come up here. 1:40:42.640 --> 1:40:45.559 Premump here all the time dreams with them. And I said, okay, 1:40:45.600 --> 1:40:49.080 now it makes sense, right, Why yall niggas talking hard? 1:40:50.520 --> 1:40:54.160 And but it's all water under the bridge because Ron Gutter, 1:40:54.840 --> 1:40:58.040 who is John Ruth's best friend, it's my niece's father, 1:40:58.160 --> 1:40:59.320 see how to work out. 1:41:02.720 --> 1:41:03.120 Came together. 1:41:03.280 --> 1:41:05.639 So then I just did the least Alsa Cold Jam 1:41:05.760 --> 1:41:08.280 movie and Ron Goutn's a producer on it. So it's 1:41:08.320 --> 1:41:11.400 all going under the bridge. Words get exchanged where they 1:41:11.439 --> 1:41:12.320 really don't mean nothing. 1:41:12.560 --> 1:41:15.200 But but but still, I know, I know it's water 1:41:15.280 --> 1:41:18.160 under the bridge. But I want people to understand, how 1:41:18.280 --> 1:41:20.400 cuci you? It was for New York rated because I 1:41:20.479 --> 1:41:21.560 could give my part of it. 1:41:21.720 --> 1:41:21.840 Right. 1:41:22.200 --> 1:41:24.439 I had a record called Grammy Grabby was number one. 1:41:24.680 --> 1:41:26.439 It was a shootout in front of hotinety seven. I 1:41:26.520 --> 1:41:28.479 got banned in front of everything. I wasn't there. 1:41:28.760 --> 1:41:31.360 You weren't even there, right, They just did that on 1:41:31.600 --> 1:41:33.479 on TV one, You know that, right? No, I did 1:41:33.560 --> 1:41:35.800 not know they just did the whole little Kim ship 1:41:35.840 --> 1:41:37.479 about that. Yeah, they said you wasn't there. 1:41:37.520 --> 1:41:40.200 I was not saying they said I wasn't there. Finally 1:41:41.439 --> 1:41:44.240 you were there. They actually said, look like. 1:41:46.760 --> 1:41:48.200 And I was kind of pissed, but I was like, 1:41:48.640 --> 1:41:50.439 why y'all ain't talked to a few more niggas that 1:41:50.479 --> 1:41:51.599 were actually around that day? 1:41:51.680 --> 1:41:54.040 Yea, because I wasn't. He wasn't. But what I'm saying is, 1:41:54.560 --> 1:41:55.320 so that shit happened. 1:41:55.360 --> 1:41:58.080 I got banned from every radio station, even radio stations 1:41:58.360 --> 1:42:01.479 that didn't like and it's broadcast at the time. 1:42:01.800 --> 1:42:04.719 That's what it was, right, and it wasn't clear. Channel Right. 1:42:06.720 --> 1:42:10.760 Still took their side, and Russell Simmons, who you picked 1:42:10.840 --> 1:42:14.320 up earlier. Russell Simmons personally came went to what her name, 1:42:14.400 --> 1:42:19.360 Tracy Clarity or Tracy because Clarity, Tracy Clary Church Clarity, 1:42:19.720 --> 1:42:24.160 and said, you can't spank somebody for a person that 1:42:24.320 --> 1:42:25.360 that wasn't there, Like, you. 1:42:25.400 --> 1:42:27.840 Know, you can't. You can't, right, they can't fault you, 1:42:27.920 --> 1:42:32.960 you can't fault me. I became back number one because 1:42:32.960 --> 1:42:35.640 Grimy was number one in the whole country. But when 1:42:35.680 --> 1:42:38.040 Honey seven pulled my record and it's broadcast. 1:42:40.000 --> 1:42:42.880 It's set a thing. But then Power one five came 1:42:43.600 --> 1:42:46.479 like a couple of weeks later. Remember Mike Cat Mike 1:42:46.560 --> 1:42:50.559 Kyser saying to me, it's my boy, Mike. There's two 1:42:50.600 --> 1:42:53.160 episodes in the world and talking. But everyone was saying, 1:42:53.280 --> 1:42:57.280 we flipped the switch. I was the only artist that 1:42:57.439 --> 1:42:59.639 technically wasn't allowed to say. 1:43:03.520 --> 1:43:07.320 Just got back. Just so if you listen to Earler 1:43:07.400 --> 1:43:10.000 early drops, I have all the early drops. So all 1:43:10.120 --> 1:43:10.920 Power on Fire. 1:43:11.040 --> 1:43:14.320 Every single person that Death Jam, you know Death Jams 1:43:14.560 --> 1:43:17.200 was enforcing this label. Was like, yo, we're not only 1:43:17.280 --> 1:43:19.439 going to have you know Hot, We're gonna have this 1:43:19.600 --> 1:43:22.960 laby and by the way, I'm gonna be honest. Power 1:43:23.160 --> 1:43:26.040 on five first came out, people didn't think it was 1:43:26.080 --> 1:43:26.759 going to work. 1:43:26.760 --> 1:43:30.920 Right at all. It was the underground. It was the 1:43:31.720 --> 1:43:32.920 anti Hot ninety seven. 1:43:35.840 --> 1:43:38.640 Flex got into a beef, right, yeah, because because I 1:43:38.760 --> 1:43:41.479 was on Power and Flex was on and Flex was 1:43:41.520 --> 1:43:41.840 on Hot. 1:43:41.920 --> 1:43:43.320 Yeah, got into some ship. 1:43:44.400 --> 1:43:47.000 Yea was yeah, I was okay, okay, Steph Love okay, 1:43:47.360 --> 1:43:50.439 but y'all was friends before you and absolutely friends now, right, 1:43:50.720 --> 1:43:51.640 So so what was. 1:43:51.600 --> 1:43:53.479 The Steph Love us ship? He had him and Steph 1:43:53.520 --> 1:43:56.040 got into something, and Steph was with us in power okay, 1:43:56.080 --> 1:43:58.639 and they got into something about her being around there something, 1:43:58.960 --> 1:44:02.080 Flex had words something. I was just on the radio like, yo, man, 1:44:02.160 --> 1:44:04.479 you can't get on a girl like that. Then he 1:44:04.560 --> 1:44:07.560 went on his show that seven o'clock wilding on me. 1:44:08.040 --> 1:44:10.840 And then I just came back like dog like, let's 1:44:10.920 --> 1:44:13.280 meet in forty second Street com squad, just me and 1:44:13.360 --> 1:44:15.080 you are like I'm a fucking punch in your face, 1:44:15.160 --> 1:44:17.519 like the fuck. And then we got on the phone. 1:44:17.560 --> 1:44:19.320 It was like, Yo, we don't own these states. It's 1:44:19.360 --> 1:44:21.439 like we're fighting up some ship that we don't own. 1:44:21.560 --> 1:44:24.680 Like this ship is stupid, it's retarding. And Flex has 1:44:24.880 --> 1:44:27.320 championed the ship out of me ever since I've been 1:44:27.360 --> 1:44:28.799 back on ninety four to seven o'clock. 1:44:28.840 --> 1:44:32.759 He is champion and that is the correct. 1:44:32.960 --> 1:44:37.040 No, that's a whole different that's Odyssey. Oh, that's company, 1:44:37.080 --> 1:44:41.160 a whole different company. But Flex, it happens like that sometimes. 1:44:41.240 --> 1:44:44.479 Man, who's who's on Odissey right now on that station 1:44:45.800 --> 1:44:50.360 was on there, Siphon is dead, Miss Jones in the morning, okay, scratch, 1:44:51.280 --> 1:44:54.160 Kelly Wade, me, DJ big Ben and we just lost 1:44:54.240 --> 1:44:56.639 Missississist on fat. 1:44:56.520 --> 1:44:59.679 Man Scoop had just started. Oh wow, yeah, we lost school. 1:45:00.439 --> 1:45:03.200 I never understood why these radio stations with beef. 1:45:03.600 --> 1:45:06.400 Like it was some s It was territorial. It was 1:45:06.560 --> 1:45:07.759 never going to mount anything. 1:45:08.120 --> 1:45:11.160 But some of the talk was crazy. Talk was ridiculous, 1:45:11.479 --> 1:45:14.360 like you should have expens shretened me and I threaten 1:45:14.439 --> 1:45:18.519 niggas right back they doing crazy ship. 1:45:19.240 --> 1:45:21.040 It was we're going to get that. I don't play 1:45:21.080 --> 1:45:21.639 with my family. 1:45:21.760 --> 1:45:24.600 And it was clearly at one point like if you 1:45:24.680 --> 1:45:26.479 give you a record to Power. 1:45:26.280 --> 1:45:30.200 One O five, stay there like get that part. 1:45:30.400 --> 1:45:33.000 And then it was like you give you a record 1:45:33.080 --> 1:45:36.280 to flex clue, ain't taking your ship. At one point 1:45:36.360 --> 1:45:39.040 like and it was just like damn, like you really 1:45:39.120 --> 1:45:42.080 had to draw a line. It was really like some 1:45:42.280 --> 1:45:44.320 gang ship really had to go one. 1:45:44.280 --> 1:45:46.760 Over the other one. You know. 1:45:47.040 --> 1:45:49.200 One of the first times I interviewed Nor as a 1:45:49.280 --> 1:45:52.120 solo artist, he came to the station and the first 1:45:52.160 --> 1:45:54.400 thing I asked him is due the Neptunes really got 1:45:54.439 --> 1:45:58.280 a cockass fan because I thought it was all line 1:45:59.240 --> 1:46:02.360 you know, run last around the English channel. Nettunes got 1:46:02.439 --> 1:46:03.040 a Coga spank. 1:46:03.120 --> 1:46:06.720 I was like, dude, the niggas had a cops. 1:46:05.479 --> 1:46:08.840 Crazy like I ain't got you say some ship like that, 1:46:09.439 --> 1:46:12.720 because back then we were laying guns to dogs, so 1:46:12.840 --> 1:46:15.400 we were saying back wilders and so if you listen 1:46:15.439 --> 1:46:17.400 to the lyric, I said, Neptunes, I got a cocko 1:46:17.439 --> 1:46:19.679 span you, meaning like I got the little due. 1:46:19.880 --> 1:46:21.800 But uh yo, do you. 1:46:21.960 --> 1:46:25.519 Realize that you were kind of like an influential your 1:46:25.640 --> 1:46:29.480 rhyme pattern kind of influenced Ghost Face, not ghost. 1:46:31.040 --> 1:46:34.160 Because he don't say any thing. Let's take a shower, 1:46:35.880 --> 1:46:36.400 take a shot. 1:46:36.439 --> 1:46:38.920 When Norman was one of the first niggas that would 1:46:38.920 --> 1:46:40.719 say ship, that don't mean no ship, said. 1:46:45.240 --> 1:46:49.040 Quitted that my life, say the ship, but there the 1:46:49.160 --> 1:46:51.560 colored felfy ropes to, like, what the fuck is that? 1:46:51.880 --> 1:46:56.759 Like, what are you talking? Norman? Was that nigga? Kick right? Norman? 1:46:57.000 --> 1:46:59.639 Was that nigga the congo span your ship? Oh come 1:47:00.120 --> 1:47:03.599 rord umberto? What's the fuck the Unberto like a Mexican 1:47:04.160 --> 1:47:06.439 you would say Spanish? When he said it didn't even 1:47:06.479 --> 1:47:11.360 make sense. I was like, That's what I'm saying. Yeah 1:47:11.479 --> 1:47:14.360 he was trying. Yeah, nobody would conrect me in the studio. 1:47:14.560 --> 1:47:16.800 I would always listen to him, like what the fuck 1:47:16.920 --> 1:47:19.200 is Normy talking about? But I got it. So then 1:47:19.200 --> 1:47:20.760 when I heard Ghosts, I was like, that's a lot 1:47:20.800 --> 1:47:21.479 of norri right. 1:47:23.520 --> 1:47:26.839 Gloria said, ridiculous ship on records, but it was flying. 1:47:28.040 --> 1:47:29.160 Ghost ship is flying. 1:47:30.320 --> 1:47:34.200 What my favorite ghost records is the Halla Halla, the 1:47:34.280 --> 1:47:36.880 nigga rhyme with the niggas still singing. 1:47:36.720 --> 1:47:37.479 On the records. 1:47:38.000 --> 1:47:41.040 The niggas like me, I'm coming you and this nigga's 1:47:41.120 --> 1:47:45.040 rum man. I'm like, yo, she didn't give a fuck 1:47:46.120 --> 1:47:48.280 was coming. All he did was come back in all. 1:47:50.840 --> 1:47:53.240 I was like, Oh, this niggas hell, That's that's hip 1:47:53.280 --> 1:47:54.040 hop for your ass. 1:47:54.120 --> 1:47:57.840 I put it together, put together, I put that together. 1:47:58.040 --> 1:48:02.640 That's a lot of right there. So road call, did 1:48:02.720 --> 1:48:04.680 you get y'all got that from the Baker Boy? Yes 1:48:04.800 --> 1:48:06.680 we did, and I asked my mission, shout out to 1:48:06.720 --> 1:48:08.720 the Baker Boys. Shout out to the Baker Boys all. 1:48:09.640 --> 1:48:12.679 Steve Smith problem wanted to jack the ship straight. 1:48:12.880 --> 1:48:15.200 He just told, you're gonna say, this is what the 1:48:15.240 --> 1:48:16.160 Baker Boys is doing. 1:48:16.600 --> 1:48:18.880 Listen to this, y'all should do this. I said, I'm 1:48:18.920 --> 1:48:20.960 not doing it until I talked to them. 1:48:21.280 --> 1:48:25.080 Now, the bigger boys is in l Let's. It wasn't 1:48:25.080 --> 1:48:28.840 there in San Francisco. L I went to l A 1:48:28.960 --> 1:48:31.160 for a summer of ninety two ninety three and I 1:48:31.240 --> 1:48:31.840 heard him doing that. 1:48:32.000 --> 1:48:34.400 They were doing the road call, so Steve gave it 1:48:34.520 --> 1:48:38.920 to us, right tape, listen to this, here's some work. 1:48:38.760 --> 1:48:42.840 In New York. I said, I'm not a bier nigga. 1:48:43.280 --> 1:48:46.360 It was against the law, especially back then, right. I said, 1:48:46.439 --> 1:48:49.320 let me call them, get him on the honorable man. 1:48:49.439 --> 1:48:51.920 Let me ask, and they was like, yeah, y'all got 1:48:51.960 --> 1:48:53.719 ahead to do it if you want to. I was like, okay, 1:48:53.840 --> 1:48:56.200 let me put a little spin on it. And the 1:48:56.240 --> 1:48:58.920 ship took off like crazy. I still got people that 1:48:59.000 --> 1:49:00.760 walk up to me and like was on the road called. 1:49:00.800 --> 1:49:05.400 I was like fifteen, like that ship was crazy. Shout yeah, man, 1:49:05.640 --> 1:49:11.000 shout out to them. Many left, Yeah, man was legend. 1:49:11.439 --> 1:49:13.400 They used to be used to play the trumpet. Mm hmm, 1:49:14.160 --> 1:49:15.640 what the fuck is the trumpet. 1:49:17.240 --> 1:49:17.639 That ship? 1:49:18.040 --> 1:49:24.520 Yeah, trump bone? He said, trump bone. That's a clarinet 1:49:24.680 --> 1:49:29.200 three three only three correct to be wrong? Oh yeah, 1:49:29.439 --> 1:49:30.599 how you correct me twice? 1:49:30.640 --> 1:49:30.920 Wrong? 1:49:35.400 --> 1:49:36.800 Wrong instrument? Yeah. 1:49:36.800 --> 1:49:38.840 I played the trumpet for along. I was in a 1:49:38.960 --> 1:49:42.560 funk band. B they I got Yeah, I love it 1:49:42.600 --> 1:49:43.679 presents a lot mixtape. 1:49:43.880 --> 1:49:45.240 But then I was playing the instrument. 1:49:45.640 --> 1:49:48.040 They I got pictures of me in Pink Span Dex 1:49:48.360 --> 1:49:53.120 boh Funk Ship, High Boots, Rick James Ship Confunction Ohio players, 1:49:53.160 --> 1:49:55.639 Like that's that was mine on Guns and Roses ship. 1:49:55.960 --> 1:49:57.719 Yeah, I was on some Rick James. 1:49:57.520 --> 1:50:02.360 Ship, like for real, Like I'm still real cool friends 1:50:02.400 --> 1:50:04.400 with all of them. And that's with ed love and 1:50:04.439 --> 1:50:07.640 a mixed live mixtape band is just full circle for me. 1:50:07.760 --> 1:50:09.000 Three hundred and sixty degrees. 1:50:09.280 --> 1:50:13.280 I got two fantastic singers, uh carry Outs and and 1:50:13.720 --> 1:50:15.519 and my man shirt Wood. 1:50:15.800 --> 1:50:19.679 I got a full band, and I just do all arounds. 1:50:20.200 --> 1:50:22.719 I do all around. I do j I do fucking 1:50:22.880 --> 1:50:23.960 mind playing tricks on me. 1:50:24.360 --> 1:50:25.519 But it covers. 1:50:25.840 --> 1:50:26.320 We do cover. 1:50:26.439 --> 1:50:28.760 That's dope. We do covers and everybody just come out 1:50:28.800 --> 1:50:31.160 because it's it's it's for the people. I remember this 1:50:31.360 --> 1:50:34.200 music when the music was pure, when the music was 1:50:34.840 --> 1:50:38.479 was great. I do Nelly's ship. We do everything, man, 1:50:38.560 --> 1:50:40.439 we just have a good time. We sold out, we 1:50:40.560 --> 1:50:42.639 just came off the city Wanted Retort, sold out every 1:50:42.720 --> 1:50:45.280 city and we're just having a fucking good time man, 1:50:45.400 --> 1:50:50.880 just doing music. What is the newest MC right now? 1:50:50.920 --> 1:50:55.519 I'm talking about new under ten years that I listen 1:50:55.600 --> 1:50:58.439 to that that you at least like a song from 1:50:58.479 --> 1:50:59.080 them or something. 1:50:59.479 --> 1:51:01.360 Ship none. 1:51:02.640 --> 1:51:05.200 Under ten years because I fucked with j Cole and 1:51:05.760 --> 1:51:10.439 that young Lady three three D ninet. She's fucking dope 1:51:10.479 --> 1:51:12.960 to me, man, snow a leg ru she's a singer, right, 1:51:14.160 --> 1:51:18.120 n you know, No, because Young Thug been around for 1:51:18.439 --> 1:51:19.400 more than ten years, right. 1:51:19.360 --> 1:51:20.000 Ye, young dug? 1:51:20.280 --> 1:51:22.439 Yeah, all the migos, I love them niggas. I was 1:51:22.479 --> 1:51:24.200 surprised the niggas knew who I was when I met 1:51:24.280 --> 1:51:29.320 him on TV raps jackets when I met him, no way. Yeah, 1:51:29.360 --> 1:51:31.320 it's like my uncles used to watch your He look 1:51:31.320 --> 1:51:33.560 at this ship like, I was shocked. They gave me 1:51:33.640 --> 1:51:35.400 so much love. Young Thug gave me a lot of 1:51:35.479 --> 1:51:36.040 fucking love. 1:51:36.720 --> 1:51:38.160 Really, Where was this? Where was this? That? 1:51:38.479 --> 1:51:38.519 In? 1:51:38.760 --> 1:51:42.160 Uh? In Atlanta? I met him atlant Atlanta. But yeah, 1:51:43.400 --> 1:51:44.120 I don't I don't know. 1:51:44.200 --> 1:51:47.840 The new new Okayli Chopper, the. 1:51:50.160 --> 1:51:50.760 Fucks with him? 1:51:51.000 --> 1:51:54.400 Yeah, and Complex left him off the list, and I'm 1:51:54.439 --> 1:51:57.439 with him. I'm with him yet Complex, y'all wild and 1:51:58.880 --> 1:52:03.360 Chopper but on my owner list maybe top five on 1:52:03.479 --> 1:52:05.879 the list of twenty in the twenties. 1:52:05.960 --> 1:52:08.680 Yeah, he's not trash. No he's no, he's not at all, 1:52:08.920 --> 1:52:10.920 and he got a character too. I love you know that. 1:52:11.120 --> 1:52:11.800 You know what I love. 1:52:12.360 --> 1:52:15.040 You Know what I don't like about someth all new 1:52:15.160 --> 1:52:17.759 mcs is they give you them two three word answers 1:52:17.800 --> 1:52:20.559 when they're doing an interview. Because if I like your music, 1:52:20.720 --> 1:52:22.320 I actually want to like you as a person too, 1:52:22.680 --> 1:52:26.080 because I don't want to appreciate the bot. I'm not 1:52:26.200 --> 1:52:29.439 Ali Chopper. He's one of those guys that gives you 1:52:29.560 --> 1:52:30.320 a full interview. 1:52:30.400 --> 1:52:32.560 He talks straight to you. You tell he's you know 1:52:32.560 --> 1:52:35.599 what I mean? Whatever? Whatever? So damn I like Chop. 1:52:35.960 --> 1:52:38.559 I agree with you. How about no, No, you said 1:52:38.560 --> 1:52:39.760 that's it. I don't want to I don't want to 1:52:39.920 --> 1:52:42.799 say somebody that you say something crazy interview. 1:52:43.040 --> 1:52:46.080 It's not nothing disrespectful. I'm sixty one years old. The 1:52:46.160 --> 1:52:49.040 niggas don't make me like you know what I mean? 1:52:49.439 --> 1:52:50.320 What's my man name? 1:52:50.680 --> 1:52:54.880 Got locked up in Utah? Gonna be a young boy? 1:52:55.000 --> 1:52:55.680 I like him too? 1:52:56.040 --> 1:52:59.920 Is that under ten years he might be like like eight, 1:53:00.120 --> 1:53:03.960 ain't crazy as fun? Even nigga you need to talk 1:53:04.000 --> 1:53:05.120 to to call him the funk down. 1:53:05.280 --> 1:53:08.840 Yeah, yeah, he needs a nb A young boy. 1:53:09.000 --> 1:53:12.560 Yeah, he got a career if he learned not to 1:53:12.680 --> 1:53:14.519 react to everything a nigga say to him. 1:53:15.760 --> 1:53:15.960 Yeah. 1:53:18.479 --> 1:53:23.439 Females like I said, uh, wifey baby, she out of Atlanta. 1:53:23.840 --> 1:53:27.320 She's out of Atlanta. Uh three three D I said, 1:53:27.760 --> 1:53:30.680 And I like all, I like Megan, I like, you know, 1:53:30.760 --> 1:53:35.880 I love fucking Cardi Man, car Is the Brons. 1:53:37.280 --> 1:53:40.680 And I think is really say I feel like I 1:53:40.760 --> 1:53:42.439 feel like ed Love was a lot old person. 1:53:42.840 --> 1:53:44.880 I like a whole lot. 1:53:45.400 --> 1:53:48.519 I think she's really like if she just let herself 1:53:48.640 --> 1:53:52.600 go lyrically, it just really raped, wrapped away. I know 1:53:52.760 --> 1:53:54.320 she can wrap the way I heard her rap with 1:53:54.400 --> 1:53:57.240 Jamain first Ada, she could go with my nigga. 1:53:57.760 --> 1:53:59.519 She got, she got bolls A lot of what was 1:53:59.560 --> 1:54:03.320 signed the people. Yeah, Jamaine had on that on that not. 1:54:04.960 --> 1:54:05.080 Right. 1:54:05.160 --> 1:54:08.880 The rap game, rap game, lot of dope, bro don't 1:54:08.920 --> 1:54:11.160 don't get it. Fucked up of a lot of them, don't. 1:54:12.680 --> 1:54:16.120 How about Ice Spice some Bronx niggas. New York. I'm 1:54:16.120 --> 1:54:20.960 a rerap New York, New York. We saw Laura London, 1:54:22.160 --> 1:54:26.400 Lady Lady London. Now she's sucking my nigga a boogie 1:54:26.439 --> 1:54:26.960 with the hoodies. 1:54:27.000 --> 1:54:29.040 Hey, boogie with a boogie with the hoodie. 1:54:29.120 --> 1:54:29.960 Is he's hot here? 1:54:30.240 --> 1:54:32.840 Yeah, my man, DJ on my nine there used to 1:54:32.880 --> 1:54:37.520 be my DJ. Hey, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, always with 1:54:37.600 --> 1:54:38.200 the hoodies, DJ. 1:54:38.520 --> 1:54:39.360 My niggas out of here. 1:54:39.400 --> 1:54:44.680 That nigga had me introduce him and in Chicago and lollapaloozas. 1:54:44.880 --> 1:54:47.800 There's ninety thousand niggas out there. None of them niggas 1:54:47.840 --> 1:54:52.040 knew who I was. He said, this is uncle ed 1:54:52.160 --> 1:54:54.560 lover right now. Like after that was I was fucking 1:54:54.640 --> 1:55:00.440 Golden's make a boogie shout out, Oh my nine man, 1:55:00.840 --> 1:55:02.680 My Instagram went straight up. 1:55:02.760 --> 1:55:10.640 Niggas, little niggas that this niggas every book. I'm taking 1:55:10.680 --> 1:55:10.960 this shot. 1:55:11.400 --> 1:55:11.640 You got. 1:55:13.200 --> 1:55:16.440 Got that? Hey you put me on? I like what 1:55:16.560 --> 1:55:19.480 the young niggas put me on like that, son, And 1:55:19.560 --> 1:55:21.080 it's how many shots we took to see you know. 1:55:21.480 --> 1:55:24.680 So we're getting off. But but that pappy look at that. 1:55:24.880 --> 1:55:27.360 Yeah yeah, that pappy. That pappy is so smooth. Can 1:55:27.400 --> 1:55:28.680 I have some more place? Yes? Please? 1:55:29.440 --> 1:55:31.120 A little I got This is how I know. That's 1:55:31.160 --> 1:55:34.560 how I know you are O G O G. You 1:55:34.680 --> 1:55:36.720 got the battery pack extra ship. 1:55:36.680 --> 1:55:41.400 God damn right, I got yo. So the apples ship. 1:55:41.440 --> 1:55:46.920 They did you make that ship? Man? You gotta have 1:55:47.000 --> 1:55:47.680 that ship, right, So. 1:55:50.200 --> 1:55:53.400 We always gotta talk about the come on. So now 1:55:53.440 --> 1:55:54.800 I said, I want to go do this before we 1:55:54.880 --> 1:55:57.000 get to come on son. I said that when I 1:55:57.080 --> 1:55:59.600 do drink chances, I'm just smoking a cigar. May I 1:55:59.720 --> 1:56:04.000 part take on one of them blunt? Now I must 1:56:04.120 --> 1:56:08.640 wan you what ash hash? Old school hashn't smoke? 1:56:08.680 --> 1:56:13.400 Okay, yeah, none of you straight from blood, straight straight 1:56:14.120 --> 1:56:15.040 all joint a joint. 1:56:15.600 --> 1:56:20.720 Give me something old school no hash, no no hash. 1:56:21.720 --> 1:56:22.760 Give me some straight weeds. 1:56:22.840 --> 1:56:25.400 You remember you remember straight human hash back that it's weed. 1:56:25.480 --> 1:56:30.200 But the black weeds, the black yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, cocaine. 1:56:34.560 --> 1:56:35.640 Give me straight, give me straight. 1:56:36.720 --> 1:56:38.280 You want to blood or you want to joint? I 1:56:38.400 --> 1:56:39.840 want what? What is it like? 1:56:40.520 --> 1:56:45.000 Like the walk came, they got papers, they got papers, 1:56:45.080 --> 1:56:47.600 old Give me to give you my old school nigga. 1:56:47.680 --> 1:56:50.000 Yeah, I separate my weed on the album. 1:56:50.040 --> 1:57:07.200 Couple of niggas like I smoked with the seeds niggasig. 1:57:02.360 --> 1:57:06.760 So, So what's what's what's doctor Dre status? Right now? 1:57:06.960 --> 1:57:10.680 Doctor Dre is recovering diabetes. Fucked him up real bad. 1:57:11.080 --> 1:57:15.400 But we're getting Dre together and It's probably very few 1:57:15.440 --> 1:57:17.360 people on this earth that I love more than Drake. 1:57:17.760 --> 1:57:19.280 So as long as I'm right, Dre is going to 1:57:19.320 --> 1:57:22.000 be right, you know, and he's my partner, man, And 1:57:22.120 --> 1:57:23.480 you know what, you know, you go through You went 1:57:23.480 --> 1:57:24.480 through your ship with Capone. 1:57:24.520 --> 1:57:24.640 You know. 1:57:25.080 --> 1:57:29.680 Pone's a crazy nigga and I spoke Pone, But uh, 1:57:30.440 --> 1:57:33.000 you're gonna love your people no matter what. Dre is 1:57:33.040 --> 1:57:34.800 my dude. He's always going to be my dude. And 1:57:35.480 --> 1:57:37.200 when you get healthy, we got a lot of ship 1:57:37.240 --> 1:57:38.640 that we got on the table that we're gonna do 1:57:38.680 --> 1:57:40.520 together because that's my guy. 1:57:40.800 --> 1:57:43.520 That's just what it is, and nothing else about it. 1:57:43.600 --> 1:57:43.880 We get. 1:57:43.960 --> 1:57:46.360 We don't have to talk to each other every day 1:57:46.400 --> 1:57:48.640 or every week, but when we're on that phone, it's 1:57:48.720 --> 1:57:52.040 like we just caught back up like a doctor or 1:57:52.080 --> 1:57:55.440 some ship like that. Like Drake, you know, said ship, 1:57:55.520 --> 1:57:56.800 this hippopship been good to us. 1:57:56.880 --> 1:57:57.040 Man. 1:57:57.360 --> 1:57:59.760 I got kids with master's degrees on fresh That's right. 1:58:00.360 --> 1:58:01.840 I ain't got a master degree. 1:58:02.040 --> 1:58:04.360 You know what I mean? He said, the NFL helped 1:58:04.600 --> 1:58:06.240 pay for some of the master Absolutely. 1:58:07.160 --> 1:58:07.360 Yeah. 1:58:07.640 --> 1:58:10.920 They tried to steal my ship, bro, They tried. They 1:58:10.960 --> 1:58:11.720 try to steal again. 1:58:11.840 --> 1:58:14.080 They come on, son, Okay, come on, I say, come 1:58:14.120 --> 1:58:18.080 on son, before they did come on man, the same 1:58:18.160 --> 1:58:20.440 ship and you see it, they right at the same 1:58:21.000 --> 1:58:23.320 So I was like, yeah, Keshan, you know what you did. 1:58:24.200 --> 1:58:26.920 So you tried to come at me and was like, 1:58:27.080 --> 1:58:28.360 now I've seen him. I was like, yo, bro, you 1:58:28.440 --> 1:58:31.360 know that's my ship. Nah I did now. I was like, bro, 1:58:31.560 --> 1:58:34.120 I got my hit on YouTube way before y'all started 1:58:34.200 --> 1:58:38.520 this ship. So segment that he started doing, he started 1:58:38.800 --> 1:58:43.080 off of come on son, okay, yes, and we sent 1:58:43.160 --> 1:58:47.200 them a seaze and desist and I was like, fun, damn, 1:58:47.200 --> 1:58:51.160 I wanna take my grandkids to Disney World like, and 1:58:51.280 --> 1:58:53.880 they just they came right or to a football game. 1:58:54.120 --> 1:58:55.760 They came because you might have kicked out of I 1:58:55.840 --> 1:58:57.080 might have kids everything and. 1:58:57.200 --> 1:59:00.800 Football Giants games. You settled, Yeah, it's all good. 1:59:01.440 --> 1:59:03.160 They might have put you out of what's that ship 1:59:03.240 --> 1:59:10.080 tail game? That's crazy? How much? Yes, yes, Disney everything, 1:59:10.200 --> 1:59:12.840 Disney owners and you had to you. 1:59:12.840 --> 1:59:14.680 Had to contact him, but they yeah, but it was 1:59:14.760 --> 1:59:18.200 my ship, not on the trademark, so they can't fight that, 1:59:18.480 --> 1:59:20.000 and you just fight for your own ship. 1:59:20.080 --> 1:59:22.280 Man. Let's talk about the original. Well, how did you 1:59:22.320 --> 1:59:23.200 come up and come on son. 1:59:24.240 --> 1:59:24.840 This is l. 1:59:26.840 --> 1:59:31.280 G Z and Drama had a beef. Okay, j Z 1:59:31.520 --> 1:59:36.280 had his company and he hired Drama to DJ. Drama 1:59:36.400 --> 1:59:41.040 knew that he had beef with Gucci, and at the party, 1:59:41.280 --> 1:59:46.560 Drama dropped some Gucci ship and Jez went fucking ballistics. 1:59:46.600 --> 1:59:48.800 So there was beefing and I was like, but. 1:59:49.600 --> 1:59:52.120 The nigga, the nigga Gucci was hot, Like how can 1:59:52.200 --> 1:59:55.200 you not play Gucci ship at the party? Is? 1:59:55.280 --> 1:59:56.720 I was like, come on, son, you know, come on 1:59:56.880 --> 1:59:58.600 son is something we always said to York. 1:59:58.760 --> 1:59:59.880 But it's like son. 2:00:00.800 --> 2:00:03.960 You know niggas that don't understand why we say son 2:00:04.080 --> 2:00:04.480 so much. 2:00:04.920 --> 2:00:08.200 We just say son. Well understand that we understand it. 2:00:10.720 --> 2:00:14.040 I know we understand, But it was come on, son. 2:00:14.880 --> 2:00:17.040 It was what I wanted to say. So I shot 2:00:17.080 --> 2:00:20.440 a video for it, and I didn't have I couldn't. 2:00:20.480 --> 2:00:24.400 Kyron KYIRN is the way MTV us to put our 2:00:24.480 --> 2:00:26.760 names on the bottom of the screen. It's called kyron, 2:00:27.240 --> 2:00:30.200 and I had that little white map, the first one. 2:00:30.960 --> 2:00:32.240 I didn't know how to do that shit. I don't 2:00:32.240 --> 2:00:33.640 think there was a way to do it. So I 2:00:33.720 --> 2:00:35.600 held up a piece of cardboard. I just moved to 2:00:35.680 --> 2:00:38.000 my house. I ripped a piece of cardboard off and 2:00:38.080 --> 2:00:40.440 rolled in Magic Marca. It's just like that. 2:00:41.160 --> 2:00:44.160 Let me get that ship. Come on. 2:00:44.280 --> 2:00:44.839 We paid. 2:00:46.760 --> 2:00:51.680 And I was talking ship and I was like, right, 2:00:53.240 --> 2:00:56.840 FuG got it, fifty had this is fifty dot com. 2:00:57.480 --> 2:01:00.600 So my nigga uh was over there and I sent 2:01:00.680 --> 2:01:02.960 the ship to him and he posted it and the 2:01:03.040 --> 2:01:05.760 ship got like sixty thousand, this is fifty do on 2:01:05.800 --> 2:01:09.920 they my ship and the ship went crazy. But I 2:01:10.000 --> 2:01:12.520 read the comments and niggas was thising me crazy. Fuck 2:01:12.560 --> 2:01:14.720 that old nigga. He don't know what they're talking about. 2:01:15.560 --> 2:01:20.880 And my nigga said, come on, son, you know my nigga. 2:01:21.000 --> 2:01:24.920 My nigga said, they watched it, right, that's all that 2:01:25.080 --> 2:01:26.640 matters is they watched it. 2:01:26.760 --> 2:01:27.440 Do another one. 2:01:27.840 --> 2:01:29.960 And that was the beginning to fucking come on son, 2:01:30.320 --> 2:01:31.040 And now was come on. 2:01:31.160 --> 2:01:33.160 So the podcast all right, so let me. 2:01:33.360 --> 2:01:35.400 I'm gonna point out to certain people in the room, 2:01:36.000 --> 2:01:37.760 and you tell me if I'm telling the truth or not. 2:01:38.200 --> 2:01:40.080 And by the way, you're telling me if you are, 2:01:40.080 --> 2:01:41.960 you're telling the truth. But the time is with the 2:01:42.040 --> 2:01:42.920 sign that's going okay. 2:01:45.360 --> 2:01:47.560 He eats the most Jamaican food in the whole place. 2:01:47.760 --> 2:01:51.000 The guy with the red hat gus. 2:01:55.920 --> 2:02:00.200 Yeah, that look that nigga looked like he eat think 2:02:00.320 --> 2:02:05.120 nigga was something everything you're making that nigga eat a 2:02:05.200 --> 2:02:08.840 beef patty. Okay, well I fail going it? Yeah, you 2:02:08.960 --> 2:02:12.840 don't thank you guy, any of them? 2:02:12.840 --> 2:02:13.920 What this guy. 2:02:15.520 --> 2:02:29.960 He's listen, listen, listen. He's pescatarian. Do you believe him 2:02:30.040 --> 2:02:30.200 or that? 2:02:40.200 --> 2:02:44.080 Yeah? I have to rack before I came over. I 2:02:44.680 --> 2:02:53.480 christ in front of y'all. The nigga something niggas going. 2:02:53.360 --> 2:02:56.200 To Mcdowne's the way shortly finished. 2:02:56.200 --> 2:03:02.640 You're going to McDonalds. You yeah, because mister mister Lee, 2:03:02.680 --> 2:03:05.720 stand up, mister stando, stand up. You heard him. 2:03:05.920 --> 2:03:08.480 He said that he learned English through music. Do you 2:03:08.560 --> 2:03:11.840 think he learned English through music or selling crack up town? 2:03:13.240 --> 2:03:14.200 I never learned English. 2:03:19.080 --> 2:03:21.600 This nigga got an uncle that work on Dykeman right now. 2:03:25.640 --> 2:03:26.160 They got. 2:03:28.200 --> 2:03:28.640 Right now. 2:03:28.880 --> 2:03:32.760 So that's what still said. 2:03:34.600 --> 2:03:37.640 All right, this is my friend Diego, Diego, get up. 2:03:39.160 --> 2:03:51.640 He's on maternity League right now. Okay, Sonny sonny d 2:03:52.360 --> 2:03:56.040 He's he's the only Haitian that webs Haiti but never 2:03:56.160 --> 2:03:56.720 been to Haiti. 2:03:58.880 --> 2:04:10.360 On that about it that ship. I think, wait here, 2:04:13.080 --> 2:04:15.720 he ain't a cloud. All right, this is our director. 2:04:16.800 --> 2:04:17.920 His name is i Rast. 2:04:18.240 --> 2:04:21.120 It's supposed to be a vegan, but Sonny the godrom 2:04:21.160 --> 2:04:23.640 Haiti caught him with a shrimp pizza one. 2:04:24.640 --> 2:04:26.120 Do you think he really make vegan? 2:04:26.240 --> 2:04:40.880 He ain't no funigg just as much vegan as. 2:04:40.960 --> 2:04:45.360 My fucking not alcohol with drinking ship the funk out 2:04:45.360 --> 2:04:48.960 of here ship. Vegans don't smoke weeds, Get the fun 2:04:49.080 --> 2:04:53.360 out ship. 2:04:53.960 --> 2:04:56.560 I wasn't read that make you a little more Haitian 2:04:56.600 --> 2:05:03.560 than Nigga little I got stumped up for why cleft? 2:05:04.920 --> 2:05:10.480 What did you talking about it? 2:05:12.160 --> 2:05:17.760 He's a thinking from veganism. I wasn't ready, man, there's 2:05:17.760 --> 2:05:24.160 a round table of bullshit going over there. Maternity leave. 2:05:31.080 --> 2:05:35.200 I before. 2:05:37.080 --> 2:05:42.320 Okay, let's rewind the last I think it had been 2:05:42.360 --> 2:05:45.440 the last episode good Weed. I knew it was gonna 2:05:45.440 --> 2:05:48.080 be good, Yes, fantastic, the last episode of Young t 2:05:48.240 --> 2:05:49.920 Reps when you had everybody there. 2:05:50.000 --> 2:05:52.400 Oh yeah, last. I know you probably talked about some 2:05:52.520 --> 2:05:55.560 million times, but can you just describe what that meant 2:05:55.600 --> 2:05:55.720 to you? 2:05:55.840 --> 2:05:56.040 Guys? 2:05:56.080 --> 2:05:58.120 But for me, it came together. 2:05:58.480 --> 2:06:01.880 Actually defens for me, it was after it was years 2:06:01.960 --> 2:06:04.280 after because you don't you'll know the shit when you're 2:06:04.320 --> 2:06:05.960 in there in the moment, right at the moment, right, 2:06:06.040 --> 2:06:07.920 you don't realize that this shit is like the most 2:06:08.000 --> 2:06:10.640 epic shit. It was sad for me because I knew 2:06:10.680 --> 2:06:12.520 it was the last episode and I didn't want it 2:06:12.600 --> 2:06:14.880 to be. I wanted to do at least ten years 2:06:14.920 --> 2:06:18.840 of your on TV rap and they're like, it's the 2:06:18.960 --> 2:06:19.720 last episode. 2:06:20.320 --> 2:06:22.760 Charlie. Our manager knew. He's like, they're going into That's 2:06:22.800 --> 2:06:23.400 the reason why. 2:06:23.320 --> 2:06:25.840 I took the Hot ninety seven job, because he had 2:06:25.880 --> 2:06:28.800 already forecasted that they was about to get rid of 2:06:28.840 --> 2:06:31.400 your on TV raps because they're playing more hip hop 2:06:31.480 --> 2:06:36.000 and mainstream in the mainstream regular time, right. So he's like, well, 2:06:36.000 --> 2:06:37.800 if they're gonna start doing that, what's going to be 2:06:37.840 --> 2:06:40.360 special about your on TV raps? So he's like, take 2:06:40.400 --> 2:06:42.680 this radio job, and you know, he told me what 2:06:42.800 --> 2:06:44.520 how the stern was making. I was like, shit, I 2:06:44.600 --> 2:06:47.240 can make almost close to that. Let's make something happen. 2:06:47.560 --> 2:06:49.520 So it was a bittersweet for me, But at the 2:06:49.640 --> 2:06:53.360 time I didn't realize that many people were in the room. 2:06:54.160 --> 2:06:58.000 I once heard Search tell a story about his beef 2:06:58.120 --> 2:07:03.360 and hammer and Hammer was there and apparently ran up 2:07:03.400 --> 2:07:04.320 on hand or some ship. 2:07:04.360 --> 2:07:05.800 I was like, if it did happen, I don't know. 2:07:06.200 --> 2:07:07.800 Did he did talk about that here? 2:07:09.360 --> 2:07:11.120 I don't remember him talking about it. 2:07:11.760 --> 2:07:16.640 But everybody was there, Like everybody that was on the 2:07:16.680 --> 2:07:18.000 East Coast at that time was there. 2:07:18.040 --> 2:07:19.960 So it was it was kind of like a bittersweet 2:07:20.000 --> 2:07:22.360 moment for me. But looking back on it, I didn't 2:07:22.400 --> 2:07:24.720 realize how epic it was going to be. 2:07:24.840 --> 2:07:28.600 And it was really an organic like we'll call the 2:07:28.680 --> 2:07:29.440 people like it was. 2:07:29.480 --> 2:07:32.000 Like, Yo, we're doing the last show you on TV rats. 2:07:32.040 --> 2:07:34.440 Anybody want to come come And it was just like 2:07:34.640 --> 2:07:37.680 our idea that like you know, Fab said, we got 2:07:37.720 --> 2:07:40.400 all these m season here, let's do a cipher Yeah, 2:07:40.760 --> 2:07:44.560 and was just and if you look at it, that's 2:07:44.640 --> 2:07:47.920 what ra City. He'll try to duplicate on the last 2:07:48.000 --> 2:07:52.200 episode as well, and that was dope too, but always. 2:07:51.880 --> 2:07:55.720 Still a Rap City got that like the freestyle segment 2:07:56.000 --> 2:07:58.000 over the last episode of Yom TV RAPS, I. 2:07:57.960 --> 2:08:01.200 Would think, I love taking is a great friend of mine. 2:08:01.640 --> 2:08:05.400 But I always say that the difference was Rap City 2:08:05.560 --> 2:08:08.480 was a national show. We were an international show. We 2:08:08.600 --> 2:08:11.040 were all over the world, you know, like Lee's saying, 2:08:11.640 --> 2:08:13.480 as he tells everybody that come in here, he learned 2:08:13.520 --> 2:08:15.960 to speak English from them. A lot of people tell 2:08:16.040 --> 2:08:20.000 me actually that, yo, I watched your TV raps at 2:08:20.240 --> 2:08:20.840 four a m. 2:08:20.960 --> 2:08:21.720 And Nigeria. 2:08:22.240 --> 2:08:23.920 That's how I learned to speaking Was it because of 2:08:23.960 --> 2:08:26.680 the actual syndication? Was actually those country. 2:08:26.400 --> 2:08:27.600 TV was all over the world. 2:08:28.960 --> 2:08:31.800 It wasn't all over the world right before the merger, 2:08:32.400 --> 2:08:34.600 before before. 2:08:36.360 --> 2:08:39.320 Yeah, back then we were all over. 2:08:39.320 --> 2:08:41.600 I remember Dream and I going to Japan and we 2:08:41.680 --> 2:08:44.440 get off the plane in fifteen thousand Japanese out there 2:08:44.520 --> 2:08:47.000 waiting for us that don't speak a spec of English 2:08:47.400 --> 2:08:51.720 or they watch us like every fucking day comes pushing 2:08:51.720 --> 2:08:52.320 you got in Japan? 2:08:53.920 --> 2:08:59.440 My share amount what Luke said here, this is yo yo. 2:08:59.520 --> 2:09:01.480 They don't even speak English, thinking when the fuck? 2:09:01.560 --> 2:09:02.040 It's just like. 2:09:03.640 --> 2:09:05.400 Like I don't know how you fuck somebody that can't 2:09:05.440 --> 2:09:09.840 speak English, Like how you do that? What did you say? 2:09:09.960 --> 2:09:12.040 I don't even know what to say? Like she's got 2:09:12.200 --> 2:09:15.560 nigga got into bed. I guess me fucking he said, 2:09:15.600 --> 2:09:20.200 I guess And there was no car doing now now, 2:09:21.600 --> 2:09:22.040 got you bro? 2:09:22.440 --> 2:09:25.680 Yeah? You fucked up ship like that? What did Willy 2:09:25.720 --> 2:09:27.760 Nelson say, he said, you know much Connors, cause back 2:09:27.800 --> 2:09:29.840 then he said who he said, he didn't know. 2:09:31.040 --> 2:09:34.800 You know, that's the only nigga Snoop taking out smoking. Yeah, 2:09:35.000 --> 2:09:37.240 Willie Nelson, Yeah, he said, Willie Nelson is the only 2:09:37.320 --> 2:09:39.640 nigga that can out smoke. He said they had the bomb, 2:09:39.760 --> 2:09:42.120 they had gas mask and all kind. I think he 2:09:42.200 --> 2:09:42.840 breathes weed. 2:09:42.920 --> 2:09:43.280 I don't think. 2:09:44.880 --> 2:09:47.880 He said, I'm passing ship. He passing me, Shiitty, can't 2:09:47.920 --> 2:09:50.320 I smoke that? I can't smoke with Snoop either. Snoop 2:09:50.440 --> 2:09:51.360 is a ridiculous smoke. 2:09:51.440 --> 2:09:56.840 Oh he's one time smoked. Yeah when actually in New York. Yeah, 2:09:56.880 --> 2:10:02.240 really it's documented. Yeah he stopped its all right, buddy, Them. 2:10:02.120 --> 2:10:03.680 Thinkings don't know how to stop smoking. This is the 2:10:03.720 --> 2:10:05.280 only way that I'm going to smoke all day. But 2:10:06.720 --> 2:10:08.880 normally don't have no lip here. I got no chill button. 2:10:09.040 --> 2:10:11.040 No, no, don't no, I ain't gonna lie. I don't 2:10:11.080 --> 2:10:11.840 have no chill button. 2:10:11.840 --> 2:10:15.120 When I'm in front of person like you, my dude, 2:10:15.280 --> 2:10:18.400 I've been with more so I've been so happy to 2:10:18.600 --> 2:10:21.000 give you your flowers to make sure that you understand 2:10:21.400 --> 2:10:24.520 how ill you are to this community. Our show is 2:10:24.520 --> 2:10:27.120 about you know, when people get ten years or twenty 2:10:27.240 --> 2:10:28.520 years in this game, people want. 2:10:28.400 --> 2:10:30.040 To write them off and tell them they old and 2:10:30.120 --> 2:10:32.480 they old school. That's not what this show is about. 2:10:32.520 --> 2:10:34.680 This show is about giving your flowers while you alive. 2:10:34.840 --> 2:10:36.200 You bro, I appreciate you. 2:10:36.480 --> 2:10:39.200 You like I said it, I said it earlier. You 2:10:39.400 --> 2:10:43.240 made doing black media cool. Yeah, there's people that was 2:10:43.320 --> 2:10:46.960 doing black media maybe before you and Dre and there 2:10:47.040 --> 2:10:49.760 was people doing black media, maybe in a different way, 2:10:50.200 --> 2:10:53.040 but no one did it in the style of the hood. 2:10:53.440 --> 2:10:54.840 You know what I'm saying. Saying like even when I 2:10:54.880 --> 2:10:57.240 look at you know, cameon shows right now and I 2:10:57.320 --> 2:10:59.680 love that show. I love it, but they're doing it 2:11:00.080 --> 2:11:00.280 in that. 2:11:00.400 --> 2:11:03.720 Style, meaning like they're being there, being the barbershop with 2:11:03.800 --> 2:11:07.480 the song, right, they be themselves And that's what you were. 2:11:07.520 --> 2:11:10.680 The first people that was being themselves looking like us, 2:11:10.840 --> 2:11:13.200 even when you walk karate outfits and you know what 2:11:13.200 --> 2:11:15.440 I'm saying, and no shirts, but she was being like us, 2:11:15.560 --> 2:11:16.360 looking like us. 2:11:17.360 --> 2:11:18.200 Real quick you that. 2:11:19.680 --> 2:11:21.160 But humor is really. 2:11:23.280 --> 2:11:29.440 Stand you had no shirt on the concernile cameouf no, 2:11:29.680 --> 2:11:32.440 but for real, like, you know, we were so happy 2:11:32.560 --> 2:11:35.840 to come home. Even when I did the print ad 2:11:35.920 --> 2:11:39.080 for lux you were still loving me? Whatever? What the 2:11:40.200 --> 2:11:45.640 the print ad for lugo nasty work flex you flex. 2:11:48.320 --> 2:11:49.960 Le. I never bought into lugs. 2:11:51.440 --> 2:11:54.000 I took the check. I took the check. Sure, I 2:11:54.080 --> 2:11:57.920 took the check. Should you didn't let take it? Did 2:11:57.960 --> 2:12:00.760 you ever wear lugs in public without the She was 2:12:00.880 --> 2:12:01.480 nasty too. 2:12:02.280 --> 2:12:06.520 Quickly went back to TA. They made your feet hurt immediately. 2:12:06.120 --> 2:12:08.600 Like because what was love supposed to be Tim's competition? 2:12:09.000 --> 2:12:10.920 Yeah, they were trying to get into that market. 2:12:11.000 --> 2:12:12.280 Yeah, just trying to get in that market. 2:12:12.440 --> 2:12:15.280 Yeah, that market was huge and TIMS didn't even understand 2:12:15.320 --> 2:12:16.000 that market at the. 2:12:16.000 --> 2:12:18.520 Time because they didn't originally come in for hip hop. No, 2:12:19.000 --> 2:12:20.400 we just we make everything. 2:12:21.400 --> 2:12:23.680 And Tim said, oh ship looks they sent us the 2:12:23.720 --> 2:12:25.320 lug ad immediately look at that. 2:12:25.720 --> 2:12:27.520 Yeah, I told you that's a nasty nigg that don't 2:12:27.560 --> 2:12:33.680 show that show that discussing. I loved stupid right there, 2:12:33.880 --> 2:12:36.640 un But it's good to admit that you did some 2:12:36.720 --> 2:12:37.880 dumb shap for the check though. 2:12:38.520 --> 2:12:41.440 Yes, and Olsen that we just found up the Mars 2:12:41.880 --> 2:12:44.360 open in February nineteen. 2:12:44.720 --> 2:12:46.840 Nineteen ninety nine. That was when probably right around the 2:12:46.920 --> 2:12:50.480 time after that, that my man signed to the next 2:12:50.520 --> 2:12:53.320 Litt Trust's Free web the three before we had to 2:12:53.360 --> 2:12:56.080 poll before he choke PJ call. That went on, the next, 2:12:57.200 --> 2:13:00.280 that went on, the next, different, different squad, and that's 2:13:00.320 --> 2:13:03.000 when I met fucking Kanye West for the first time. 2:13:03.880 --> 2:13:04.360 That's dope. 2:13:04.400 --> 2:13:07.720 Look, geez, I need another drink. I got, I got 2:13:07.800 --> 2:13:10.120 one more left in. I have not touched this basil 2:13:10.160 --> 2:13:13.960 hating and that's the damn problem. Drink that to take this? 2:13:14.280 --> 2:13:15.000 What you still got? 2:13:15.160 --> 2:13:15.280 Uh? 2:13:15.560 --> 2:13:17.080 Take that? I mean with you? Yeah, we still got 2:13:17.080 --> 2:13:21.760 pappy when I'm drinking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We bring 2:13:21.880 --> 2:13:23.440 back to old school, said relaxed. 2:13:23.520 --> 2:13:25.440 Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. She don't we 2:13:25.520 --> 2:13:28.120 drink it all? No, yes, no, no no, We're gonna 2:13:28.200 --> 2:13:30.480 let you. Just being that you order this. I wanted 2:13:30.480 --> 2:13:33.200 to impress you as my friend, well, thank you, my brother. 2:13:33.400 --> 2:13:35.000 I wanted to let you know how much you mean 2:13:35.080 --> 2:13:39.000 to me. And that's what I said. I love making 2:13:39.040 --> 2:13:40.920 sure are people taking people drink orders. And when you 2:13:40.960 --> 2:13:43.560 said American whiskey, I was like, Yo, I got to 2:13:43.560 --> 2:13:45.640 bring out this pappy and I bring out the twelve year. 2:13:46.400 --> 2:13:50.160 That pappy is special, bro, especially I know about everybody all, all, 2:13:50.320 --> 2:13:53.160 all my fans back home. That's gonna watch this. It's 2:13:53.200 --> 2:13:56.520 gonna watch and watch me drink this pappy and be jealous. Yes, 2:13:56.720 --> 2:14:00.160 my wife is going to be like smoking weed. You 2:14:00.360 --> 2:14:01.640 really don't smoke weed like that? 2:14:02.320 --> 2:14:03.000 What are you doing? 2:14:03.680 --> 2:14:03.960 Listen? 2:14:04.320 --> 2:14:12.360 Wait, I'm a drink champ, babe, damn right the big time. Hey, 2:14:12.480 --> 2:14:14.720 yes and so, but this is why I. 2:14:14.760 --> 2:14:16.800 Saw y'all niggas in Atlanta. When I do, I stepped 2:14:16.800 --> 2:14:19.360 here and saying, what the fun? You're not gonna be 2:14:19.400 --> 2:14:21.600 on drink chain, my nigga, and I'm min we already 2:14:21.600 --> 2:14:22.040 stepped to you. 2:14:22.400 --> 2:14:24.520 So but hold on. This is how I know you're 2:14:24.520 --> 2:14:27.120 a real cigar smoker. You bring your own cigars. 2:14:27.440 --> 2:14:30.200 See when you made the drink order, I would expect 2:14:30.240 --> 2:14:34.240 you to say, hiss my cigars. But this see real 2:14:34.320 --> 2:14:37.440 cigar motherfuckers to smoke their own cigars. 2:14:37.600 --> 2:14:44.080 Right, because y'all might fuck my cigar order, just leave 2:14:44.120 --> 2:14:46.800 a Master Blend number three, no, number two, and number one. 2:14:46.840 --> 2:14:49.960 We're fucking amazing. So when I saw this, I was like, 2:14:50.000 --> 2:14:52.200 I gotta get the Master Blend out here. 2:14:52.480 --> 2:14:52.840 I got this. 2:14:53.080 --> 2:14:56.560 I brought these frimps from Atlanta. Oh wow, wow, Yeah, absolutely. 2:14:56.760 --> 2:14:59.320 I just didn't have the torch because niggas take your 2:14:59.360 --> 2:15:01.960 torch the air point and I didn't check no bags, 2:15:02.400 --> 2:15:04.320 so they wasn't gonna let me bring my torch on. 2:15:04.440 --> 2:15:05.920 So your man was kind enough to go get me 2:15:05.960 --> 2:15:06.320 a torch. 2:15:06.480 --> 2:15:07.840 Because if I had have lit this ship with a 2:15:07.880 --> 2:15:10.480 big lighter like you got right there, the niggas would 2:15:10.480 --> 2:15:13.600 have told me, oh my god, my stogies on the 2:15:13.720 --> 2:15:15.160 rocks crew, they would have killed me. 2:15:15.280 --> 2:15:18.040 I would have been banned. I should have been on 2:15:18.120 --> 2:15:20.080 punishment on the rocks crew. 2:15:20.160 --> 2:15:22.760 There's a social club in New York, community of I 2:15:22.840 --> 2:15:26.720 have my community like fellowship, siray. Those are the places 2:15:26.800 --> 2:15:30.800 Cigar City Club. I smoked there. I smoked at Life 2:15:30.840 --> 2:15:36.440 and times. I smoke Patio two patios. Yeah, I smoke 2:15:36.480 --> 2:15:39.000 all over the place. And they know it's against the 2:15:39.160 --> 2:15:41.440 rules to light a cigar with a big lighter. 2:15:41.960 --> 2:15:44.760 It's against the rules. It's not a gas lighter because 2:15:44.760 --> 2:15:47.800 it's not fast enough. It's not a gas. Look, we 2:15:47.920 --> 2:15:50.360 learned something to bullshit. It's good for this. 2:15:52.800 --> 2:15:54.320 You can get with this, you can get with that. 2:15:54.800 --> 2:16:00.640 With that. Hast been good to you. Atlanta's wonderful to me. 2:16:00.720 --> 2:16:02.280 So I heard you got over the sports job. 2:16:02.680 --> 2:16:04.520 I got offered the sports job on ninety two to 2:16:04.560 --> 2:16:06.880 nine the Game, but then they decided that they didn't 2:16:06.920 --> 2:16:09.720 want to hire outside of what they already had. And 2:16:09.800 --> 2:16:12.040 that's part of audisty too. But sports is something that 2:16:12.080 --> 2:16:14.440 I'm really into that I really love. I've been a 2:16:14.480 --> 2:16:18.880 sports fact. I'm a New York Giants fan unfortunately, but. 2:16:18.920 --> 2:16:19.720 I'm a sports guy. 2:16:19.840 --> 2:16:22.200 I like sports, and I think at the time what 2:16:22.360 --> 2:16:24.560 they needed was somebody that can give you sports in 2:16:24.600 --> 2:16:27.840 a layman's term, like I talked directly to people that 2:16:28.000 --> 2:16:31.440 watch sports the way I watch sports that talk about politics, 2:16:31.480 --> 2:16:34.320 the way I do that talk to people the way 2:16:34.320 --> 2:16:36.920 you talking to me right, the way you guys embrace 2:16:37.000 --> 2:16:37.680 me and talk to me. 2:16:38.040 --> 2:16:39.199 That's how I talk to people. 2:16:39.600 --> 2:16:42.080 I don't give them the well the right God pulled 2:16:42.120 --> 2:16:46.280 this way have to people bodies, right, I don't do 2:16:46.400 --> 2:16:49.080 the technicality. That's for dudes that played the game, and 2:16:49.480 --> 2:16:51.400 I respect the shit out of them too. But I 2:16:51.600 --> 2:16:52.400 just liked sports. 2:16:53.120 --> 2:16:56.240 But being that, you said, Jamie Fox broung Oprah to 2:16:56.360 --> 2:17:00.959 your show. Yeah, Jamie Fox is now viral whoa which is. 2:17:00.959 --> 2:17:04.160 Ship with Jerry Jones talking about niggas dicks Paulus on that. 2:17:05.520 --> 2:17:07.400 What the fuck was he that? Did we have to 2:17:07.440 --> 2:17:09.840 bring this dream hats? No, that was like a slave 2:17:09.959 --> 2:17:15.440 thing to me, like I thought slavery. It's real SHAMEI 2:17:15.560 --> 2:17:19.240 turned that ship off right when he said he's this tall, 2:17:19.840 --> 2:17:20.879 this amount of weight. 2:17:20.959 --> 2:17:22.880 His hands are this big and he got an eight 2:17:22.920 --> 2:17:24.520 and a half inches nine inch cock. 2:17:24.600 --> 2:17:27.800 I was like, how the fuck do you know that? Yo? 2:17:29.240 --> 2:17:33.600 And that's the first thing I say, yo, yo, oh, No, 2:17:34.720 --> 2:17:37.600 come on, sign how you know that? So I give 2:17:37.640 --> 2:17:40.360 me that? Give the fuck hey, Jerry Jones, come on. 2:17:43.320 --> 2:17:49.400 Phone, crazy ship. You can't buy baby oil no more. 2:17:51.400 --> 2:17:53.720 I can't buy no baby oil, nigga. This is what 2:17:53.800 --> 2:17:56.240 I want to say about that real quick, because Diddy 2:17:56.360 --> 2:17:59.720 is my nigga, right, I want to tell everybody that 2:18:00.000 --> 2:18:03.400 there's a difference between did he parties and did he 2:18:03.520 --> 2:18:07.360 freak off party? I've been to a thousand Diddy parties 2:18:07.920 --> 2:18:10.560 that did not turn into freak off parties. Maybe I 2:18:10.680 --> 2:18:12.920 wasn't famous enough to be invited to them shits, I 2:18:13.000 --> 2:18:16.320 don't know, but those parties were not the parties that 2:18:16.600 --> 2:18:20.960 I went to. And amen, goddamn right, That's all I 2:18:21.040 --> 2:18:21.800 want to say about that. 2:18:22.520 --> 2:18:26.440 I don't know. I don't know, amen. I ain't never 2:18:26.480 --> 2:18:29.400 been in the freaking up party to either, but I've 2:18:29.440 --> 2:18:30.600 been with my wife, so maybe. 2:18:31.040 --> 2:18:34.800 But I didn't see it. I didn't see it personally. 2:18:35.520 --> 2:18:37.600 And when the Feds get you, as you know we 2:18:37.760 --> 2:18:40.160 saw it where murder inc. They want to milk your 2:18:40.240 --> 2:18:44.000 bank account till you ain't got shit left. The Feds 2:18:44.080 --> 2:18:47.640 don't lose nigga. They come only niggas I ever know 2:18:47.720 --> 2:18:51.240 that beat the Feds for fucking irving him. They come 2:18:51.320 --> 2:18:54.640 when they come in barely, huh and barely and barely. 2:18:55.000 --> 2:18:57.520 They don't come until they got some real shit on you, right, 2:18:57.640 --> 2:19:01.199 So they putting puffing the trick bag right now because 2:19:01.240 --> 2:19:01.400 of the. 2:19:01.480 --> 2:19:04.080 Way they defined sexual trafficking. 2:19:05.160 --> 2:19:07.160 But now was a teenager. We went to the whole straw. 2:19:07.200 --> 2:19:10.160 We went to Hunts Point. We was talking a bit 2:19:11.240 --> 2:19:15.000 in Queens Yeah, yeah, in the Bristol hotel that l 2:19:15.280 --> 2:19:18.200 around about the holes used to be there Park Avenue 2:19:18.280 --> 2:19:19.400 South before they cleaned that. 2:19:19.520 --> 2:19:22.800 Up in the loose right now, he's like, Louke, No, 2:19:22.920 --> 2:19:27.360 but I got but let's be fair. Hugh Hefner had 2:19:27.520 --> 2:19:31.440 freak offs absolutely like this. He had a grotto that 2:19:31.640 --> 2:19:32.600 was made for sex. 2:19:33.240 --> 2:19:36.280 Absolutely, Like, I mean, I didn't funk when I went 2:19:36.320 --> 2:19:38.000 to the grotto, but you went to the grotto. I've 2:19:38.000 --> 2:19:40.920 been to, let's hear about it. Yeah, I've been there, 2:19:42.160 --> 2:19:45.760 but I ain't. None happened because you as old as fuck. 2:19:45.879 --> 2:19:47.720 I don't even think the nigga knew who I was. 2:19:47.840 --> 2:19:48.360 I was there. 2:19:49.000 --> 2:19:51.760 I was just sitting there, like, oh, this is the grotto. 2:19:52.320 --> 2:19:53.760 But it's different. 2:19:53.879 --> 2:19:55.400 Now, Yeah, the spokes a weed do something. 2:19:55.480 --> 2:19:59.000 Yeah, it's different because of the way they view where 2:19:59.000 --> 2:19:59.680 the laws all? 2:19:59.800 --> 2:19:59.920 Right? 2:20:00.080 --> 2:20:02.920 Now right, because we all seen the movie Taken. We 2:20:03.040 --> 2:20:05.680 love the movie Taking with Lee and Neeson, right, they 2:20:05.879 --> 2:20:07.480 snatching women off the streets. 2:20:07.600 --> 2:20:10.040 It's the movement of people. It's the movement of people 2:20:10.200 --> 2:20:14.440 that's the problem. Difference, it's the movement of It's the movement. 2:20:15.959 --> 2:20:16.720 We're not defying it. 2:20:17.040 --> 2:20:19.560 That's no, it's true. It's the moment. It's the movement 2:20:19.600 --> 2:20:20.120 of the people. 2:20:20.520 --> 2:20:23.119 Once you move them across straight state lines and paying 2:20:23.200 --> 2:20:25.359 them for sex, they call that traffic. 2:20:25.480 --> 2:20:25.640 Key. 2:20:26.840 --> 2:20:29.840 Yeah, and with all due respect, we are not qualified 2:20:29.840 --> 2:20:33.080 to talk about this on drink chance and saying we shouldn't. 2:20:33.440 --> 2:20:36.400 Because I ain't sex traving nobody. We're celebrating his legacy. 2:20:36.720 --> 2:20:43.880 Were hefn nor? You don't want to know the craziest ship. 2:20:44.280 --> 2:20:46.160 My mother is eighty six years old. So the shit 2:20:46.240 --> 2:20:50.440 came out. My mother called me baby. I'll say, hey, man, are. 2:20:50.360 --> 2:20:55.720 You on the freak freak tape? I'm like, I said, no, 2:20:56.600 --> 2:20:57.800 let me tell you why she say that. 2:20:58.040 --> 2:21:00.400 She's said, because I standing in the church is real 2:21:00.480 --> 2:21:05.320 good right now, and I don't want I wasn't messing. Yeah, 2:21:05.360 --> 2:21:07.680 I said, it's called the freak alls And no I'm 2:21:07.720 --> 2:21:09.000 not on none of them tape. 2:21:09.600 --> 2:21:12.320 But that's that's a beautiful thing that you you because 2:21:12.680 --> 2:21:15.560 I remember you saying when you was in l A 2:21:15.680 --> 2:21:17.880 after Big died, that was one of the people who 2:21:17.920 --> 2:21:21.120 called you a second la was your mom was my 2:21:21.200 --> 2:21:23.760 mother and say, no matter how, you have to get 2:21:23.800 --> 2:21:26.040 out of there and get out of there because the 2:21:26.200 --> 2:21:29.360 vitriol on Big was disgusting. 2:21:29.440 --> 2:21:35.200 On the radio, it was disgusting. Yes, when he died, Yes, 2:21:35.520 --> 2:21:36.480 they were going crazy. 2:21:37.480 --> 2:21:40.520 Uh, poet is who's a radio personality? 2:21:40.600 --> 2:21:42.600 I love? She was on the radio. 2:21:42.720 --> 2:21:46.680 She openly took calls and the disrespectful Big people she 2:21:47.280 --> 2:21:51.200 didn't respect. She didn't disrespect Big. She was sad and 2:21:51.320 --> 2:21:54.199 say we lost one of the greatest. And the vitrioll 2:21:54.320 --> 2:21:57.600 that came in, the disgusting words that they said. But 2:21:57.720 --> 2:21:59.680 let me about big made me feel like I need 2:21:59.720 --> 2:22:01.920 to get out of here, right could she. 2:22:02.040 --> 2:22:04.560 Had because she had edited that part or at that 2:22:04.959 --> 2:22:07.119 time live radio and live radio. 2:22:07.200 --> 2:22:09.680 It was live radio, so so when they took calls, 2:22:09.760 --> 2:22:11.720 you couldn't edit that no time. Okay. 2:22:12.040 --> 2:22:14.040 If she would have recorded him, she could, Okay. I 2:22:14.080 --> 2:22:17.200 don't think she wouldn't let it go. And it was 2:22:17.360 --> 2:22:20.760 just like his fat ass ain't had no bisness. You know, 2:22:20.840 --> 2:22:24.440 we didn't like him. After Park died, good good for 2:22:24.640 --> 2:22:26.640 him his family like it was. 2:22:26.840 --> 2:22:29.680 It was crazy, bro, and he's playing it a live radio. Yeah, 2:22:29.800 --> 2:22:30.280 it was great. 2:22:30.320 --> 2:22:32.440 And I heard you also say, contrary to popular belief, 2:22:32.800 --> 2:22:35.000 Pop died, New York was showing them nothing but. 2:22:35.320 --> 2:22:40.200 Crazy love, you know nods. Our homeboy allowed me to 2:22:40.320 --> 2:22:43.280 step on his stage stage and Nash college him and 2:22:43.320 --> 2:22:47.360 announced that everybody that that pocket passed away and he 2:22:47.480 --> 2:22:50.680 had be for Pop and he allowed me to do it. 2:22:50.959 --> 2:22:53.280 I told him because I heard Angie say it. 2:22:53.320 --> 2:22:55.560 I was on my way to the concert and Angie said, 2:22:55.600 --> 2:22:59.040 Park just died, and uh, I set the nods. I 2:22:59.080 --> 2:23:01.800 remember he had on the red leather. Another nigga had 2:23:01.800 --> 2:23:04.280 no shirt on it any time, but that's noth I 2:23:04.400 --> 2:23:06.520 go at him too. So the nigga had on the 2:23:06.600 --> 2:23:10.879 farmer's joint leather joint, red joint. I say, yo, Pop died, Man, 2:23:10.959 --> 2:23:12.520 I think you need to tell everybody. He said, I 2:23:12.560 --> 2:23:14.520 can't do that. Here, give me the mic, so go 2:23:14.680 --> 2:23:17.240 tell everybody. Pop passed and we did a moment of 2:23:17.320 --> 2:23:20.640 silence for Pop. But in La nigga went big did 2:23:20.720 --> 2:23:22.600 They didn't give a fuck? 2:23:24.320 --> 2:23:27.520 Can I play Devil's advocate for a second. Yeah, And 2:23:27.640 --> 2:23:30.400 I know it's not the same thing, but couldn't it 2:23:30.440 --> 2:23:32.520 be said that the same thing happened in New York 2:23:32.600 --> 2:23:35.800 when the Dog Pound and Snoop were filming the video. 2:23:35.959 --> 2:23:39.880 Died and people but you're correct, you correct, people were shooting. Yeah, 2:23:39.879 --> 2:23:42.880 but said, hey, why would you? He said, why? 2:23:43.040 --> 2:23:44.440 A lot of these niggas will come in and that 2:23:44.600 --> 2:23:48.080 be the similar. It's very similar. But nobody died. 2:23:48.120 --> 2:23:51.760 We lost toward the greatest one when somebody nobody. 2:23:52.760 --> 2:23:57.720 In fact, first of the shooting shootings didn't occur until Atlanta. 2:23:57.879 --> 2:24:00.960 That shooting that happened. What do you mean with shoot 2:24:01.200 --> 2:24:03.520 and puff. No, No, people got shot. People were shooting 2:24:03.560 --> 2:24:03.960 in New York. 2:24:04.040 --> 2:24:07.480 But that ship nationally when sugar Man got killed. When 2:24:07.520 --> 2:24:11.240 sugar Man got killed, I can't say I was dancing. 2:24:11.280 --> 2:24:14.720 I don't know, but allegedly by Wolf was what sparked 2:24:14.720 --> 2:24:17.199 the whole ship. It was never East Coast West Coast 2:24:17.640 --> 2:24:19.920 bad Boy. I think everybody hip hop knew. It was 2:24:20.320 --> 2:24:22.680 a lot of dumb niggas out here that don't know that. 2:24:22.760 --> 2:24:25.440 Really was in the culture knew. It was never East Coast, 2:24:25.480 --> 2:24:25.959 West Coast. 2:24:26.200 --> 2:24:29.320 It was this time because came Q came to New 2:24:29.400 --> 2:24:31.320 York and did Americans most warning. So how do what 2:24:31.400 --> 2:24:34.080 the fuck was we hating on? The Boss Squad produces 2:24:34.120 --> 2:24:34.800 out right. 2:24:35.160 --> 2:24:38.760 The most New York shit ever, made, the most epic 2:24:38.920 --> 2:24:42.600 public in coast out Yeah. Ever, that was my dad 2:24:42.680 --> 2:24:46.640 called him to the public talking about yeah yeah. But 2:24:46.760 --> 2:24:47.400 we we didn't. 2:24:47.440 --> 2:24:47.760 We didn't. 2:24:47.760 --> 2:24:48.960 We never disliked. 2:24:49.080 --> 2:24:54.480 We embraced and loved West Coast music, even though sometimes 2:24:54.520 --> 2:24:57.480 we were so full of ourselves that we couldn't understand 2:24:57.520 --> 2:24:59.560 what was coming from the south and the and the 2:24:59.640 --> 2:25:00.520 West in the. 2:25:00.560 --> 2:25:04.240 West and south east right right, But we embraced it. 2:25:04.320 --> 2:25:06.720 When we got it. Sometimes it takes people a longer 2:25:06.800 --> 2:25:09.440 time to get it. Do you think we talk about 2:25:09.440 --> 2:25:11.640 it here often? And you know what, I hear a 2:25:11.720 --> 2:25:14.720 story that you said that one time, that not one time, 2:25:14.800 --> 2:25:17.760 but this time particular. It is a wonderful week, thank you. 2:25:18.160 --> 2:25:22.199 Yes, that when I believe Big died, and I believe 2:25:23.240 --> 2:25:25.400 on a Saturday, and you couldn't leave to a Monday. 2:25:25.879 --> 2:25:27.880 Yeah, so you had to get out of town. 2:25:28.440 --> 2:25:31.280 So when you finally got your car service, I laid 2:25:31.320 --> 2:25:33.440 said you laid down, bro, you laid. 2:25:33.280 --> 2:25:34.320 That's how it shook. I was. 2:25:34.360 --> 2:25:36.600 I ain't gonna lie. Ain't no such things as halfway crooks. 2:25:36.640 --> 2:25:40.840 This thigga was a shook nigga. I'm yeah, I'm on 2:25:40.879 --> 2:25:42.920 the West coast. You said that, Yeah, I'm on the 2:25:43.000 --> 2:25:46.840 West Coast. And when my car finally came and got 2:25:46.879 --> 2:25:49.480 me that morning to take me to the airport, hood 2:25:50.080 --> 2:25:53.280 on on pull tight you know, robbery, hood get a 2:25:53.360 --> 2:25:55.920 stick a nigga, And I laid down on the back 2:25:56.040 --> 2:25:59.120 seat till we got to the airport, until I got 2:25:59.760 --> 2:26:01.800 in the terminal actually to my gate is when I 2:26:01.840 --> 2:26:04.440 took the hood off. Wow, because I was that scared, 2:26:04.800 --> 2:26:05.920 because we didn't know where it. 2:26:05.959 --> 2:26:07.320 Came from, and you didn't know if it was for 2:26:07.400 --> 2:26:09.240 everybody right right, like they. 2:26:09.120 --> 2:26:11.400 Could just were like were killing every East Coast nigga. 2:26:11.720 --> 2:26:13.360 I'm out here. I gotta get home. 2:26:13.440 --> 2:26:15.760 My mom was like, they're wanting to kill the minus out. 2:26:16.000 --> 2:26:18.800 I want to sign that because I wasn't there at all. 2:26:19.040 --> 2:26:21.520 I wasn't there the source of I wasn't there. 2:26:21.760 --> 2:26:22.120 I didn't. 2:26:22.520 --> 2:26:25.360 I didn't come out till till ninety seven, ninety eight. 2:26:25.560 --> 2:26:29.920 I believe Big died ninety five ninety seven, right, So 2:26:30.800 --> 2:26:33.040 I wasn't lit. So I definitely had no budget to 2:26:33.080 --> 2:26:35.600 go out there. You know what I'm saying, Like that's 2:26:35.680 --> 2:26:40.480 very simple, real nigga shit. And but I remember like 2:26:40.680 --> 2:26:43.880 actually having a budget afterwards, and I remember me not 2:26:43.959 --> 2:26:44.640 having a choice. 2:26:44.720 --> 2:26:45.720 But I land in LA. 2:26:46.240 --> 2:26:48.480 They had security for me, and I, you know, I 2:26:48.600 --> 2:26:50.119 was like, you know, like a hood nigga at that time, 2:26:50.240 --> 2:26:53.360 like I don't need security. And they had like almost 2:26:53.400 --> 2:26:57.200 insurance policies on almost every artist after Big and Pop. 2:26:58.320 --> 2:27:01.240 I don't want to ever say that's Paris theory. I 2:27:01.360 --> 2:27:05.840 want to say that's our culture who led that to that? 2:27:06.840 --> 2:27:08.720 But what what if? What if? 2:27:08.840 --> 2:27:10.560 What if? What if I'm naive. 2:27:10.959 --> 2:27:13.320 And what if that was? Do you think there ever 2:27:13.560 --> 2:27:15.400 was conspiracy theories for I think. 2:27:15.320 --> 2:27:22.040 It's unfortunately not conspiracy coincidence. I think that it became 2:27:22.200 --> 2:27:24.000 so big that it got out of their hands. 2:27:24.959 --> 2:27:26.360 That's deep. That's what I think. 2:27:26.440 --> 2:27:31.160 I think once Park died, I think it was on even. 2:27:30.959 --> 2:27:33.240 Though even though people know that Big didn't have nothing 2:27:33.240 --> 2:27:33.520 to do with it. 2:27:33.680 --> 2:27:36.080 Yeah, I don't think they still know they be. 2:27:36.240 --> 2:27:36.760 For so bid. 2:27:36.840 --> 2:27:39.560 It was so bad, Yes, you know, hit them up 2:27:39.680 --> 2:27:43.800 and all that and record and who shot you added 2:27:43.920 --> 2:27:48.000 to it, which wasn't really at Park dumb before Pocket 2:27:48.040 --> 2:27:51.760 it shouldn't have been put out and who they said, 2:27:52.440 --> 2:27:53.320 I'll put that shut out? 2:27:53.360 --> 2:27:56.840 It shouldn't have been really know that. We had a 2:27:56.920 --> 2:27:58.119 debate with I think Tony. 2:27:58.800 --> 2:27:59.440 We debated. 2:27:59.480 --> 2:28:02.039 I said no because as a child, YEA, the most 2:28:02.120 --> 2:28:03.080 loyal nigga. 2:28:03.959 --> 2:28:04.760 The most loyal. 2:28:06.080 --> 2:28:10.400 I had that record who shot you? Before that? That like, 2:28:10.520 --> 2:28:14.320 before they really released it. I'm saying it was before 2:28:14.600 --> 2:28:18.360 anybody passed thinking FN played that ship, didn't he Yeah, 2:28:18.400 --> 2:28:21.440 what I'm saying before it didn't relate to that when 2:28:21.480 --> 2:28:21.880 I played it. 2:28:22.040 --> 2:28:24.920 I'm saying you when you had it, you didn't relate 2:28:25.000 --> 2:28:26.720 it to to the to the pokh because the pro 2:28:27.040 --> 2:28:27.520 didn't happen. 2:28:27.680 --> 2:28:30.160 It was like, did we get white labels, We'll get 2:28:30.280 --> 2:28:33.160 like press you know, like test pressings. And I was 2:28:33.240 --> 2:28:35.840 on Pyate radio and I'm playing yeah. But but when 2:28:35.879 --> 2:28:38.359 it went went like on radio commercial. 2:28:38.000 --> 2:28:42.080 Radio and everybody was relating it to the shootings, I'm like, nah, bro, 2:28:42.320 --> 2:28:42.879 like that's not what. 2:28:42.959 --> 2:28:45.200 It was, right. But I look like that to the 2:28:45.320 --> 2:28:48.240 general public, the general public, and I think that was 2:28:48.640 --> 2:28:52.280 a huge mistake. You could have held that back and 2:28:52.440 --> 2:28:56.120 then god damn. I still don't like to hear hit 2:28:56.200 --> 2:29:00.160 them out. It still bothers me. Yeah, I'm nowhere it 2:29:00.360 --> 2:29:02.400 was and I know why he did it, but it's 2:29:02.440 --> 2:29:04.560 still it's still fuck with me, bro, And it's. 2:29:04.520 --> 2:29:07.400 Crazy how big it's such as a huge it's an 2:29:07.400 --> 2:29:09.920 ill record though, but it's an ill if you wanted 2:29:09.920 --> 2:29:12.480 to just out of context, like I mean, as a 2:29:12.600 --> 2:29:15.520 as a hip hop historian, look at a battle record. 2:29:15.720 --> 2:29:18.480 It's one of the greatest ones up there with no vassal. 2:29:18.480 --> 2:29:21.680 Vassilion up there with they not like uh the bridges over, 2:29:22.040 --> 2:29:23.959 bridges over Hey man, it's up there. 2:29:25.120 --> 2:29:25.680 It's up there. 2:29:25.760 --> 2:29:28.880 Man, you left right you want. I don't give bridge 2:29:28.920 --> 2:29:29.959 Over was just a queen. 2:29:31.600 --> 2:29:33.600 We can't know what I realized about the bridges Over. 2:29:34.480 --> 2:29:38.640 I looked at krass ones age. There's no way he 2:29:38.680 --> 2:29:40.040 would have knew this ship he was talking about. He 2:29:40.120 --> 2:29:43.720 was fourteen. Wait, wait when he did the bridges Over? No, 2:29:44.160 --> 2:29:47.560 think about what the times he's talking about the hip 2:29:47.560 --> 2:29:50.520 hop to look as wise as seems, I didn't hear 2:29:50.560 --> 2:29:52.160 a peep from a place called Queens. 2:29:52.280 --> 2:29:54.280 You were fourteen, You wouldn't have heard it. 2:29:54.440 --> 2:29:56.480 Are you saying we still got a case? Yes? Weday, 2:29:56.760 --> 2:29:57.280 all right, cool? 2:29:57.320 --> 2:29:59.320 This is like murder. This is like murder. 2:29:59.360 --> 2:30:02.520 We can bring this back up, bringing charge back up, 2:30:06.520 --> 2:30:07.680 bringing charges back up. 2:30:07.800 --> 2:30:10.760 Cares We're not We're not taking it, taking that ship 2:30:10.800 --> 2:30:14.840 from your empty. Shan is the judge. We got em. 2:30:15.120 --> 2:30:16.920 Shann makes a lot of sense. She shan't makes a 2:30:16.959 --> 2:30:18.199 lot of sales ever before. 2:30:18.480 --> 2:30:19.040 Yeah he does. 2:30:19.400 --> 2:30:22.840 Yeah, I fucking love Shance, one of my super he's 2:30:22.879 --> 2:30:23.520 a super legend. 2:30:24.000 --> 2:30:27.160 But when when he was trying to funk with LLL 2:30:27.240 --> 2:30:29.960 at that time too and cars brought that out. But yeah, 2:30:30.120 --> 2:30:32.720 you need to take your man with ll You need 2:30:32.760 --> 2:30:34.560 to take your man off the crack. Oh, my god, 2:30:34.680 --> 2:30:40.160 damn smoking crack back then. Yeah, but Shampan thought about it. Yeah, 2:30:40.200 --> 2:30:42.000 he didn't say he was smoking crack. I mean, I 2:30:42.080 --> 2:30:44.000 don't know about that part, but he thought us about 2:30:44.040 --> 2:30:44.800 his addictions. 2:30:44.879 --> 2:30:51.360 Like I love chanting man should up to empty shand 2:30:51.560 --> 2:30:53.560 real quick, because I want to go back to something 2:30:53.600 --> 2:30:56.920 you've talked about on Drink Champs in relation to Biggie 2:30:56.959 --> 2:31:01.320 and everything that happened when you and and Mob Deep 2:31:01.480 --> 2:31:04.680 did the record l A l A. That what Biggie 2:31:04.760 --> 2:31:05.080 told you. 2:31:05.560 --> 2:31:07.440 Yeah, I went straight to the tunnel. 2:31:07.560 --> 2:31:10.400 We did it because I mean, obviously we weren't on, 2:31:11.040 --> 2:31:13.240 so that was like the way to get on, like 2:31:14.080 --> 2:31:18.200 to like, you know, New York. This is right after 2:31:18.240 --> 2:31:22.200 the New York York. The only rebuttal from it was 2:31:22.240 --> 2:31:24.120 a friend of of my hood. His name is Chaz, 2:31:24.600 --> 2:31:26.720 and he brung me up. He was on the DJ 2:31:26.879 --> 2:31:29.680 list that was called and long story short, we went 2:31:29.720 --> 2:31:31.480 in there. We just did a response. We never really 2:31:31.560 --> 2:31:32.280 like dissed them back. 2:31:34.240 --> 2:31:37.440 The only person that like related to l A was 2:31:37.480 --> 2:31:39.800 the Prodigy said JFK on our Way to LA And 2:31:39.879 --> 2:31:41.879 that was the only part the whole record that kind 2:31:41.920 --> 2:31:45.000 of seemed like it. But I stepped in big. I 2:31:45.040 --> 2:31:47.520 don't remember if it's that night or whatever night, but 2:31:47.560 --> 2:31:49.200 I still the big was like, yo, we went back 2:31:49.240 --> 2:31:50.960 at him for you. You know what I mean? L 2:31:51.000 --> 2:31:53.200 A l A he was because remember it was bad 2:31:53.240 --> 2:31:55.360 Boy mixtape. Remember had. 2:31:57.800 --> 2:32:03.280 Clue had one first was ironically being from Queens. He didn't, 2:32:04.000 --> 2:32:07.640 he didn't shout to do he didn't. He didn't, he didn't, 2:32:07.760 --> 2:32:12.480 he didn't put us on on the record. So stressed 2:32:12.520 --> 2:32:15.640 Armstrong did big of a stressed Armstrong and big up 2:32:15.680 --> 2:32:17.879 the barbeto. But although this is a stressed Armstrong move 2:32:17.920 --> 2:32:21.800 by itself, and I remember stepping the big and big 2:32:21.959 --> 2:32:25.200 like nah, he was so smart. He was like, nah, 2:32:25.760 --> 2:32:27.920 we can't use that on the Bad Boy mixtape. We 2:32:28.000 --> 2:32:29.320 won't use l A l A. 2:32:29.480 --> 2:32:29.520 You. 2:32:29.760 --> 2:32:32.800 You were spawning to them because what he's accusing me 2:32:32.879 --> 2:32:36.920 of how they do? And I had at that time, 2:32:37.120 --> 2:32:39.560 I was so naive and young. I was like, what's 2:32:39.680 --> 2:32:40.280 wrong with them? 2:32:42.080 --> 2:32:45.640 I'm represented for you, And years later come to find 2:32:45.680 --> 2:32:48.680 out like, like what he said to me at that 2:32:48.879 --> 2:32:51.480 very moment was real, Like I had, I got nothing 2:32:51.480 --> 2:32:55.039 to do with it. He's accusing me of right, how 2:32:55.080 --> 2:32:55.520 does that make? 2:32:55.600 --> 2:32:55.640 That? 2:32:55.760 --> 2:32:56.000 Was big? 2:32:56.160 --> 2:32:57.840 That was a big path on the whole ship, on 2:32:57.879 --> 2:33:01.080 the whole ship. It's like what he's saying, I love 2:33:01.160 --> 2:33:03.760 this dude, Like this is my guy. He always took 2:33:03.840 --> 2:33:06.320 the higher road on that. Like I have heard stories 2:33:06.360 --> 2:33:10.160 that Big went back into the studio and took Pop's 2:33:10.240 --> 2:33:11.480 gun out of the piano. 2:33:11.800 --> 2:33:15.039 Yeah, I heard that. I don't know if it's true. 2:33:15.320 --> 2:33:17.000 But he put in his pants, we walked out. 2:33:17.400 --> 2:33:19.600 I don't know if it was him, but he sent 2:33:19.720 --> 2:33:20.560 somebody or him. 2:33:20.760 --> 2:33:23.320 I don't know. They have a catch charge. 2:33:24.920 --> 2:33:28.600 I catch the gun chok. But Big, so I'm like, 2:33:28.760 --> 2:33:31.320 why would you do that? If you had something to 2:33:31.400 --> 2:33:34.200 do with it? And I think I know for a fact. 2:33:34.240 --> 2:33:37.520 Big was very hurt Bond. He's expressed in the interviews 2:33:38.040 --> 2:33:41.080 like I'm fucking hurt, like I love his dude like it. 2:33:41.200 --> 2:33:44.200 This got out of hand man, and sometimes ship beef 2:33:44.320 --> 2:33:46.600 like that happens. It just gets on the hand. Niggas 2:33:46.680 --> 2:33:49.360 gasing you up, You gasting yourself up. 2:33:50.080 --> 2:33:53.080 It's nasty. Nobody wants to back down. Nobody wants to 2:33:53.120 --> 2:33:53.480 back down. 2:33:53.560 --> 2:33:58.480 And they were both Gemini and God blessed the Vibe 2:33:59.320 --> 2:33:59.879 and my sister. 2:34:00.120 --> 2:34:03.280 Yeah, I get them both. Yeah, you get it. God 2:34:03.320 --> 2:34:06.440 bless the Vibe magazine, But the Vibe magazine they put 2:34:06.480 --> 2:34:13.119 their fuel on that fucked everything up, everything up everything. 2:34:13.400 --> 2:34:16.080 The media exacerbated that situation absolutely. 2:34:16.360 --> 2:34:19.440 They exacerbated to the point of no return, And the 2:34:19.520 --> 2:34:22.000 point of no return was that we lost two of 2:34:22.080 --> 2:34:23.959 the greatest artists that we have ever had. 2:34:24.160 --> 2:34:29.160 Yeah, I know it sounds like so like very like crazy, 2:34:29.240 --> 2:34:35.160 but we can't really blame anybody who covered that in 2:34:35.320 --> 2:34:38.080 that way at that time because we didn't understand that 2:34:38.160 --> 2:34:39.119 that was the end result. 2:34:39.640 --> 2:34:42.039 Yeah, how can we not blame. 2:34:41.800 --> 2:34:44.440 Them because there was no other example of that, like 2:34:44.920 --> 2:34:48.720 you know, like like if right now, like fucking Kareem 2:34:48.840 --> 2:34:51.400 and Draine play Skelly and then one of them have 2:34:51.440 --> 2:34:52.840 to jump in the pool afterwards. 2:34:53.200 --> 2:34:55.480 That's the first example of that. You know, I'm using 2:34:55.520 --> 2:34:57.640 that because that's very I don't get it. But go. 2:34:59.160 --> 2:35:03.760 If it goes iral, yeah, yeah, which was what which 2:35:03.879 --> 2:35:05.320 I was doing back then. 2:35:05.440 --> 2:35:08.240 They made it go viral, but that was viral. This 2:35:08.400 --> 2:35:10.520 is my thing though, I think all of us looked 2:35:10.520 --> 2:35:12.640 at the Vibe and we were all young people at 2:35:12.680 --> 2:35:14.920 the time, and we looked at the article and we 2:35:15.000 --> 2:35:18.760 all were like, no, that's a little bit that they're reaching, 2:35:18.879 --> 2:35:21.520 they're reaching. They did reach, they're reaching. I think all 2:35:21.560 --> 2:35:25.039 of us as young people. And honestly, it was dis 2:35:25.200 --> 2:35:30.200 records before the really but no, but no disrecords led 2:35:30.280 --> 2:35:32.520 to death at that time. That's the reason why I like, 2:35:33.080 --> 2:35:35.800 I do blame them, but I don't. I don't blame 2:35:35.879 --> 2:35:39.400 them because there was no example of that now, any 2:35:39.600 --> 2:35:43.320 publication that made coverage of that and and led to that. 2:35:43.800 --> 2:35:45.119 Like right now, when I'm looking. 2:35:44.920 --> 2:35:47.280 At you know, all these cases because it's fucking mad 2:35:47.400 --> 2:35:51.400 cases and hip hop, Like you can look the cases 2:35:51.440 --> 2:35:53.280 in hip hop in Atlanta too. 2:35:53.280 --> 2:35:56.400 They're getting locked up. Yeah, we got to start asking 2:35:56.440 --> 2:35:57.440 ourselves real questions. 2:35:57.640 --> 2:36:01.240 How much has hip hop made excuses for ship for 2:36:01.360 --> 2:36:02.879 ship that's gonna get us all fucked up? 2:36:02.920 --> 2:36:05.560 How much has hip hop helped or hurt the black community. 2:36:06.600 --> 2:36:07.320 It's helped a lot. 2:36:07.600 --> 2:36:11.000 We helped help more, but the emphasis was on how 2:36:11.080 --> 2:36:13.960 we hurt, right, But we helped way more help. The 2:36:14.120 --> 2:36:17.720 MX said something, he said, he don't dis whack rappers 2:36:17.800 --> 2:36:22.520 no more because one rap, one rapper period saved sixteen families. 2:36:23.040 --> 2:36:26.440 And I believe that one rapper, whether you whack or not. 2:36:27.200 --> 2:36:29.240 Yeah, y'all had the nigga young on here. He gave 2:36:29.280 --> 2:36:31.120 the best description of d MX I ever heard him. 2:36:31.280 --> 2:36:34.440 Young was ill bro. He was the best queens too 2:36:35.360 --> 2:36:36.960 from Queen. But he don't claim us at all. You 2:36:37.000 --> 2:36:39.560 don't claim us. No, no, no, he claimed La. No no, 2:36:39.640 --> 2:36:42.840 he claim queens bro relaxed. Don't tell me that. We 2:36:42.959 --> 2:36:45.760 asked from Quick John's line. He don't know what he said, 2:36:45.879 --> 2:36:48.480 is he because he made his chops in La. He did, 2:36:48.840 --> 2:36:50.800 That's what he That's why he claims La the way 2:36:50.800 --> 2:36:56.640 he does. He's a queen's inga. He said it, Yo, 2:36:57.200 --> 2:37:02.640 come on so but but but he went, if you 2:37:02.680 --> 2:37:04.080 don't came Queen's nigga. 2:37:04.200 --> 2:37:04.480 This is it? 2:37:04.760 --> 2:37:06.960 But is it? He went back to Cali and he 2:37:07.160 --> 2:37:10.560 never came back. Yeah he didn't. Yeah, you know he 2:37:10.680 --> 2:37:13.400 made his bones and Cali he did. He made He 2:37:13.560 --> 2:37:16.080 was on the West Coast all stars like he's on the. 2:37:16.080 --> 2:37:18.600 West Coast more than he was in New York. With that, 2:37:18.760 --> 2:37:21.080 he's not wrong with that. But he did say something 2:37:21.080 --> 2:37:23.920 about X and XS rom style. And I've told people 2:37:24.000 --> 2:37:28.000 this a million times, extra ram any fucking thing, and 2:37:28.040 --> 2:37:30.640 it would have sounded dope because of his voice. It's 2:37:30.680 --> 2:37:32.560 a lot of people that could do that. Yeah, yeah, 2:37:33.000 --> 2:37:35.320 Excell could have did. Mary had a little Lamb and 2:37:35.400 --> 2:37:36.320 the ship would have been ill. 2:37:37.080 --> 2:37:38.400 He did, He did, had. 2:37:39.840 --> 2:37:46.680 Married Lamb, and the Lamb of fact, I love the 2:37:46.840 --> 2:37:48.200 Lamb loved me because I'm d. 2:37:50.400 --> 2:37:57.200 You know. Yeah, that nigga was ill. The whole dark 2:37:57.240 --> 2:37:59.240 communities a word. I told people on top. 2:37:59.840 --> 2:38:04.400 You can put d MX on any fucking record, any record, 2:38:05.360 --> 2:38:09.320 country music, and the ship was still bad. You can 2:38:09.400 --> 2:38:14.480 put Dolly parton nine to five working nine to five. Well, 2:38:14.600 --> 2:38:18.400 the way to make a lead. See that ship is crazy. 2:38:18.480 --> 2:38:20.720 So X go with everything. 2:38:21.680 --> 2:38:25.400 That's just saying that everything go everything. 2:38:25.800 --> 2:38:27.600 And then Swiss told me the nigga didn't want to 2:38:27.640 --> 2:38:32.160 do Party Out. Swiss told me that, Wow, that nigga 2:38:32.240 --> 2:38:37.160 hated Party Up. Rough Riders Anthem was Swiss's first. He 2:38:37.200 --> 2:38:39.480 didn't want to He didn't want to do that record, 2:38:39.600 --> 2:38:42.600 and that records the creator, the Illis Records, ever. 2:38:42.600 --> 2:38:46.280 Son Swiss second placements, Badfoot TV. We continue bad TV. 2:38:46.640 --> 2:38:48.760 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah we already heard how you 2:38:48.840 --> 2:38:52.200 fucked that up because he said, wung it up. 2:38:52.320 --> 2:38:54.120 He said he wanted to make a beat and you 2:38:54.160 --> 2:38:54.959 didn't let him make a. 2:38:55.000 --> 2:38:57.760 Beat because that was like he gave him a loop. 2:38:59.280 --> 2:39:01.720 That record was what you want me to That's one 2:39:01.720 --> 2:39:03.560 of the greatest part records. 2:39:04.400 --> 2:39:05.160 Didn't you say that? 2:39:05.480 --> 2:39:10.080 List a hundred another drink hold not even know I 2:39:10.120 --> 2:39:14.880 wanted to drinks. It's a nigga record. It's not a 2:39:14.959 --> 2:39:24.560 girl record. The girls don't love band from look at 2:39:24.560 --> 2:39:27.600 the DJ and you No, yes, yeah, nigga. 2:39:27.640 --> 2:39:30.200 Normous said I'm never making a record with you, even 2:39:30.240 --> 2:39:31.880 if your woman fun the whole crew. I was like, 2:39:31.959 --> 2:39:36.040 he's aspect Yeah, I was thinking, but then he still 2:39:36.120 --> 2:39:36.320 did it. 2:39:36.720 --> 2:39:44.840 No, never intersectional, like he said, I'm gonna put I'm like, 2:39:45.160 --> 2:39:48.560 I'm like, who is this nigga? Come on, come on. 2:39:52.920 --> 2:39:56.959 I didn't expect it. I expect the gambling shoot out 2:39:57.040 --> 2:39:59.640 to the backyard house. 2:40:00.000 --> 2:40:01.600 You need to have shoot out in the background. 2:40:03.120 --> 2:40:05.720 Ironically, it's really that I see him word that. I 2:40:05.840 --> 2:40:08.400 promise you. They got pictures and everything that proved. I say, 2:40:08.440 --> 2:40:14.640 you remember this. It was a little little yeah. Yeah, 2:40:15.120 --> 2:40:17.960 it was a cookout. Yeah yeah, just smelled good. Yeah. 2:40:18.480 --> 2:40:22.279 This is not I was not seen at that time exactly. 2:40:22.440 --> 2:40:25.480 It was I think, like ten, oh, I see you 2:40:25.600 --> 2:40:30.560 have to remember something. No, No, West Irish and West 2:40:30.800 --> 2:40:32.279 remembering something because. 2:40:32.080 --> 2:40:35.040 You're twenty four now, so this gotta be yeah, this 2:40:35.160 --> 2:40:38.120 gotta be yeah, because it's gotta be eight years. 2:40:38.640 --> 2:40:40.080 By the way, I got to flip coming. 2:40:40.160 --> 2:40:43.680 I got the flicks because if not seen was twenty four, 2:40:44.400 --> 2:40:48.160 he was one and she's twenty five. 2:40:48.280 --> 2:40:49.400 So let me just tell you something. 2:40:49.920 --> 2:40:54.040 Here's here's here's after this happened because Daddy came to 2:40:54.120 --> 2:40:55.360 my crib that level. 2:40:56.160 --> 2:40:58.720 It's like the only one time because I was coming 2:40:58.760 --> 2:41:00.560 to your crib. Yeah, hold on, look, so this the 2:41:00.560 --> 2:41:03.600 only time Chris he came to my crib. And then 2:41:03.800 --> 2:41:05.920 joh U was there and he's managing joh Ru at 2:41:05.959 --> 2:41:08.480 the time. I don't believe he's managing fifty at the time. 2:41:08.840 --> 2:41:09.320 He wasn't. 2:41:10.320 --> 2:41:14.600 Next week he started managing fifty knowing that was the yeah. 2:41:14.840 --> 2:41:19.960 Yeah, he bought his bread bread and then fifty dropped 2:41:20.000 --> 2:41:20.520 the freestyle. 2:41:20.560 --> 2:41:22.640 He said I know where no he lived, you live 2:41:22.720 --> 2:41:31.039 by Norri crib. I said, oh s moved, Yeah, there 2:41:31.080 --> 2:41:34.039 he got. He thought it was me that y'ah moved. 2:41:34.760 --> 2:41:37.199 Yeah, he was getting that like that j Long money 2:41:37.480 --> 2:41:40.240 right and the writing he did on Mary right. 2:41:40.360 --> 2:41:42.040 He made a lot of level right. 2:41:42.080 --> 2:41:45.520 And then fifty made a freestyle. I know where Norri lived, Yo? 2:41:45.959 --> 2:41:47.760 You live by Norri krib How. 2:41:47.720 --> 2:41:51.080 Does the manager managed that? That's what I want to know, 2:41:51.280 --> 2:41:55.000 Chris managed. It makes a noise for Chris like you 2:41:55.040 --> 2:41:57.680 got that hold on. 2:41:57.959 --> 2:42:01.880 These niggas got an ice cream section, yo, yo yo, 2:42:05.600 --> 2:42:14.360 This nigga league got an ice cream section? Coldly is 2:42:14.480 --> 2:42:17.840 I ain't gonna lie he taking he's taking a bathroom break. 2:42:17.879 --> 2:42:20.480 I ain't gonna. I'm enjoyed this, pappy me too. Brother, 2:42:20.640 --> 2:42:24.199 Thank you, brother, yes, yes, thank you, because I got listen. 2:42:24.400 --> 2:42:24.840 Listen you. 2:42:27.480 --> 2:42:30.920 You being my olgi from Queens is one thing. Being 2:42:30.959 --> 2:42:34.680 my og and hip hop is another thing. You being 2:42:34.760 --> 2:42:41.040 my og overall is everything absolutely and you my friend too. 2:42:41.840 --> 2:42:42.640 I fuck with you. 2:42:43.160 --> 2:42:44.879 You ain't never changed on me, and. 2:42:44.959 --> 2:42:46.080 You never changed on me. Bro. 2:42:46.320 --> 2:42:49.120 You know what when I saw you outside of of 2:42:49.280 --> 2:42:52.520 the fucking rock the bell ship and was like you good, 2:42:52.680 --> 2:42:54.760 I was like, that's my nigga right there, Like the 2:42:54.840 --> 2:42:57.039 nigga was like are you good? You had a thousand 2:42:57.120 --> 2:42:59.600 niggas with you? Yes, I did, and I'm still worried 2:42:59.600 --> 2:43:03.280 about what I'm good. And then I came he y'all 2:43:03.280 --> 2:43:03.720 there gave me. 2:43:03.760 --> 2:43:04.960 A ball you. 2:43:05.040 --> 2:43:12.160 Goddamn do you want another one? Yeah, go ahead, because 2:43:12.560 --> 2:43:14.720 because for real, like nah, that's for real ship. 2:43:14.879 --> 2:43:17.320 And let me say this before the same thing. 2:43:18.000 --> 2:43:21.039 I am so fucking proud of you, thank you, because 2:43:21.080 --> 2:43:25.400 you've pivoted it. Yes, right, and you made something that 2:43:25.640 --> 2:43:29.360 everybody is following. You Gotta realize everything you're doing right 2:43:29.400 --> 2:43:31.480 now is what everybody else is trying to do right now, 2:43:32.400 --> 2:43:33.920 but they can't do it the way you do it. 2:43:34.600 --> 2:43:37.600 Because when I watch you, I mean, like this nigga, 2:43:37.680 --> 2:43:40.600 noway did this? Like this nigga actually did homework, Like 2:43:40.720 --> 2:43:43.360 you're not just asking niggas regular ship. 2:43:43.680 --> 2:43:45.320 You bring up ship niggas be like, how the fuck 2:43:45.400 --> 2:43:45.720 you know that? 2:43:46.040 --> 2:43:49.000 Because y'all are doing your homework, man, and that's why 2:43:49.560 --> 2:43:51.920 y'all deserve what y'all getting, and that's why y'all a 2:43:52.000 --> 2:43:53.759 number more motherfucking podcast. 2:43:53.480 --> 2:43:58.840 Like goddamn, not to say, I ain't coming for your ass. 2:43:58.920 --> 2:44:01.959 You know what I'm saying, No, no, no, no, no, yeah, 2:44:02.680 --> 2:44:04.840 come on, come on all time. 2:44:05.480 --> 2:44:09.120 But I admire it. But I admire it and I 2:44:09.360 --> 2:44:14.400 learned from it. And my wife is my podcast partner. 2:44:14.520 --> 2:44:17.039 Right now, you got a couple of relationships, yeah. 2:44:17.160 --> 2:44:20.040 Miss fruit. That's my that's my wife. They call her fruit, okay, 2:44:20.280 --> 2:44:23.440 and she's my podcast partner man. And we just we 2:44:23.600 --> 2:44:26.680 talk our ship. We don't always talk relationships, but we 2:44:26.920 --> 2:44:29.400 just I'm in a good place right now. 2:44:29.879 --> 2:44:34.200 How much more? Not probably after this week, but let's 2:44:34.280 --> 2:44:40.160 let's finish that pappy me motherfucking ed lover. And if 2:44:40.200 --> 2:44:42.800 you don't drink a little bit of pappy, you know what, you. 2:44:42.840 --> 2:44:45.080 Know, my wife told me you probably might drink some 2:44:45.200 --> 2:44:47.480 of the ship that they're gonna drink because ed Love 2:44:47.560 --> 2:44:48.879 is gonna tell you drink a little. 2:44:48.680 --> 2:44:51.440 Something, a little pappy. You gotta have a a little 2:44:51.440 --> 2:44:59.040 bit of this, give me a little And my wife 2:44:59.120 --> 2:45:00.000 told me to be careful. 2:45:00.080 --> 2:45:01.720 And you know what, I'm gonna fall to the trap 2:45:01.840 --> 2:45:04.160 and she told me, can I get a little bit 2:45:04.200 --> 2:45:04.320 of it? 2:45:05.320 --> 2:45:08.000 A little bit? Come on, No, we share out because 2:45:08.000 --> 2:45:09.959 I need you to have I need if you never 2:45:10.200 --> 2:45:13.720 you've never had this, relax, buddy, have you had this never? Okay? 2:45:14.640 --> 2:45:17.760 Okay, you're gonna understand why this is the best ship 2:45:17.840 --> 2:45:18.400 on the market. 2:45:19.000 --> 2:45:23.600 I drink Mahanna don't taste like then it's gonna taste 2:45:23.600 --> 2:45:24.320 like cream soda. 2:45:24.560 --> 2:45:28.560 And then I'm gonna be like henna. 2:45:27.200 --> 2:45:31.920 Taste like root bell. So we killed that whole bottle 2:45:31.920 --> 2:45:39.320 of papping is not damn, this ship is smooth. 2:45:40.720 --> 2:45:44.640 Broke me up, but absolutely I'm not doing anything else. 2:45:45.280 --> 2:45:49.480 Good hold on, relax, pause for for reaction. 2:45:49.840 --> 2:45:51.880 You're a drink champ. You're supposed to already know that 2:45:51.959 --> 2:45:52.959 he drinks everything. 2:45:53.040 --> 2:45:55.320 No, no, but yeah, but we stick. I stick to 2:45:55.320 --> 2:45:57.640 my own ship. I'm very happy. I asked me to 2:45:57.680 --> 2:45:58.600 drink that mama wana. 2:45:58.640 --> 2:46:03.039 I was, but I drank pappy. You gotta drink my majuana. 2:46:03.120 --> 2:46:05.320 Look and trust me, this is not as bad as 2:46:05.760 --> 2:46:07.920 I already knew when I came here. I have to drink. 2:46:13.440 --> 2:46:16.800 Let's go. That's it, to the drink champs, to the 2:46:16.879 --> 2:46:18.039 drink chances and family. 2:46:18.959 --> 2:46:26.160 Here we go, super super super something. God damn, I'm 2:46:26.200 --> 2:46:29.920 not taking a home. You can't go from that. I 2:46:30.000 --> 2:46:30.720 need some plastic. 2:46:31.720 --> 2:46:33.480 I mean, look, you can do voodoo with this whatever 2:46:33.480 --> 2:46:37.880 you want about. I mean, we're gonna make sure we 2:46:37.959 --> 2:46:40.280 got back. You got a case. Where's the case? You 2:46:40.320 --> 2:46:43.600 got the case at case of what we want to 2:46:43.760 --> 2:46:47.480 John case of the high School Blues and go, man, 2:46:47.560 --> 2:46:50.920 I appreciate you, and those are gold flowers that will 2:46:50.959 --> 2:46:53.880 not die because your legacy will never die. Thank you, 2:46:54.000 --> 2:46:57.800 man man hold on not for real. 2:46:58.879 --> 2:47:00.320 I want to thank you for the out of my 2:47:00.440 --> 2:47:04.920 heart and when whatever I said, I'm pretty sure comes 2:47:05.120 --> 2:47:05.840 with my partner. 2:47:06.360 --> 2:47:09.520 We love what you did. We love the platform that 2:47:09.600 --> 2:47:10.200 you laid out. 2:47:10.440 --> 2:47:14.520 Whenever you see somebody being theyself on a hip hop platform, 2:47:15.200 --> 2:47:16.840 you need to pat yourself on the back. 2:47:18.480 --> 2:47:19.480 Because the one mean. 2:47:19.400 --> 2:47:22.520 Descent truly becomes from you and your partner. 2:47:22.560 --> 2:47:24.280 I don't want to forget him because he's not here, 2:47:24.920 --> 2:47:26.560 and we wish him at speedy recovery. 2:47:26.959 --> 2:47:30.240 We wish him you know next time we come, dre 2:47:30.400 --> 2:47:34.640 gonna be with have it so dope. 2:47:35.120 --> 2:47:37.560 But we want you to know, same way you told 2:47:37.600 --> 2:47:42.359 me every time I've seen you anywhere, that your platform 2:47:42.480 --> 2:47:45.080 is my platform. And this is the three sixty that 2:47:45.160 --> 2:47:48.440 kaya your live show is the three sixty of me 2:47:48.520 --> 2:47:51.600 telling me telling you that our. 2:47:51.560 --> 2:47:54.760 Platform is your platform. I don't care what you want 2:47:54.800 --> 2:48:00.560 to promote. You want to promote candles that comes with 2:48:01.040 --> 2:48:09.480 toenail wax because and we killed that pappy together. Well, 2:48:09.600 --> 2:48:13.960 thank you so much for joining us, hanging with us, 2:48:14.280 --> 2:48:17.120 and letting us, allowing you to give you the flowers 2:48:17.160 --> 2:48:20.600 that you deserve, because this is real ship. You deserve 2:48:20.840 --> 2:48:24.360 everything that we said. None of us is exaggerating. This 2:48:24.560 --> 2:48:26.800 is something that we all came out we want to do. 2:48:36.959 --> 2:48:40.279 Drink Champs is a drink Champs ll C production hosts 2:48:40.320 --> 2:48:43.400 and executive producers n O r E and dj e 2:48:43.640 --> 2:48:49.200 f N. Listen to Drink Champs on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, 2:48:49.480 --> 2:48:53.120 or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us 2:48:53.160 --> 2:48:55.760 for another episode of drink Champs hosted by Yours truly, 2:48:55.920 --> 2:48:58.480 dj e f N and n O r E. 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