WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Adjustments On Offense? 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:38.000 Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Runs, Rob Phillips, and Bill June. 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:42.199 It's a Tuesday at the Star in Fresco. We are 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:47.600 inside the SWBC Mortgage studios here and this is talking Cowboys. 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.040 An off day for the players, but not all the 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.720 players have already seen a couple out here. There's never 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:57.760 an off day when you're talking football season. Bill Jones, 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:01.440 Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips, Bryan and brought us as we 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.000 turn our attention to the Green Bay Packers now this 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:07.280 week after the loss to the Saints on Sunday night, 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.319 the Cowboys at the corner poll of this season with 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.160 a three and one record. Gentlemen, how are you doing 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:17.080 on this very fine Tuesday morning? Doing well? Good? Great? 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.920 Jerry Jones at his weekly radio appearance on one oh 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.400 five three the Fan this morning, had a little injury 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:30.920 update from doctor Jones this morning and he is pleased 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.200 with the good news from the MRI on Tyron Smith yesterday. 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.760 Anybody listened to Jerry this morning, best they could have 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.679 hoped for is what he said. The sprained ankle, so 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:44.360 he said unlikely for Sunday, but I don't know that 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:48.120 it's probably trending that way where they're preparing for Cam 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.800 Fleming to be your left tackle against the Packers and 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.800 then hopefully after that he's back, which you know, when 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:57.240 you watch the replay of his of Dak fall into 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.840 his ankle, you're thinking this could be really serious and 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.520 didn't turn out that way. So some fortunate news there. Yeah, 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:08.639 you got guys that you know, these players when they 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:12.320 get injured. What we've seen kind of a history a 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.960 little bit earlier in this season is that you know, 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.639 we'd say, oh, it's this and this and this as 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.359 far as the time length and all that stuff like that. 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.520 But if you get a player that's willing to do 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:26.440 whatever he has to do to get back out there, 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.120 I think that's where it's really been the case with 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:31.720 this whole crew. If you look at guys like Xavier Woods, 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.360 you know, you look at again Michael Gallup, guys like 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.680 that that they said, oh, two to four weeks, well, 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.160 you know, these guys are trending more on one week 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.480 two weeks like that, you know. And then a guy 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.240 like Tyrn Smith loves to play football, he knows how 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.720 important it is for him to be out there, and 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:50.480 he'll do everything in his power. You know, if he 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:52.720 has to to miss a game this week, well we'll 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.600 see what happens with the Jets. But they've been real 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:59.600 fortunate with those injuries. But they've been even more fortunate 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.119 that they have the right kind of guy that's going 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:04.400 to do everything in his power to get back. I 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.960 think that. I think Antoine Woods is a similar kind 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.480 of guy, you know, doing everything he can to get 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.519 back out there and play. And I think that's the 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.280 you know, you have to have willing players, and it 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.240 has he's always been the case in the recent history. 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.520 It hasn't always been the case. And you know, you 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:24.119 have willing rehab guys, you know, Britt Brown, Jim Marry, 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.600 those guys are all willing, and but you have to 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.240 have the player to be willing to do it. And 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:30.960 I think that's what they've got these guys. And that's 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.120 why I think we've seen some of these guys come 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:38.040 back on shorter stints than say, oh it's a six 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.160 week or a five week or eight whatever. Week. You know, 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.800 they've they've got guys coming back. I think we also 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.480 need a little more accurate in reporting too. Well. The 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.680 Xavier Woods one was that just was off to begin with. 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:53.040 But one was off, yeah, because it wasn't a high 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:57.440 ankle spring. Okay, and that's twice now, oh for two 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.360 on high ankle sprains. Yeah, I mean. And then that's 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.480 one of the advantages we have living in this building. 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.200 You know, Mickey is able to walk up or on 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.480 a plane ride home and walk up to somebody and say, hey, 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.800 what exactly is wrong here? And as you get on 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:13.520 the plane they will tell you this is what we 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:15.560 saw in the X ray or the MRI or whatever. 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.520 And then uh, then you know, you get accurate reporting. 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:22.000 That way. People are quick to make these these comments 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:26.440 and analysis when they just could you know, wait a 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:28.320 little bit and get the accurate part of it. And 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.280 just like with not all ACL injuries are the same, 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.880 I would assume not all quote unquote high ankle springs 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:36.520 are the same you get and you know, we've been 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.720 finding that out too, because I think there was one 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:40.719 last year, you know, and it was going to be 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.839 six weeks and it was like two or three. Yeah, 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.599 somebody came back. So yeah, it's not you can't just 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:51.200 put everything into this classified order. Okay. It sounds bad though, 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.160 when you when you hear a high ankle, usually thinking 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.680 just might as well been broken, But no, it's uh. 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.120 In this case, you and tough guys wanted to get back. 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.720 Know how important the season is. Nobody wants to let 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.240 anybody down again. You got those players, you got a 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.400 staff that's willing to put in all the hard work 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.479 to make sure everything like that's taken care of. And 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:11.880 so I put my faith in my hand, in those 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.240 guys hands, that those guys are gonna be back. Hell, 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.039 I wouldn't be surprised again. Jerry talked about it. He says, 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.520 don't rule out Michael Gallup. And Michael Gallup is out 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.400 there running routes right now with san Jay Lyle and 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:24.800 Britt Brown and all those guys standing there watching him 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.200 do it. And he could and he could prove that. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.680 He says, Hey, you know I'm good. I could cut, 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:31.880 I could dip, I can do what I can jump. 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.359 I can do everything I have to do to protect 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.120 myself in this game, and playing this game by all means. 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:40.040 You know, we'll see Michael Gallup this week, if that's 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:41.719 if that's the way it is. In the car, he 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.479 was trying to convince him that he could play last week. Yeah, 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.080 and He didn't win the argument, but he was pushing 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.719 the play because he thought he was running well enough. 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:53.640 And I think possibly this week the same team thing 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.480 with Antoine Woods. Yes, if you watch absolutely rehabbing, he's 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:01.880 moving really well. Yeah. So yeah, they need those guys all. 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.120 You know, Garrett talks about all hands on deck, You mean, 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.279 think about taking weapons away and trying to play that game. 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.160 You play that game against the Saints the other day 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.960 without Michael Gallup. You sure could have used him on 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.839 some of those incut routes, some slants. Maybe he generates 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:16.760 a little offense for you. Maybe he takes a little 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.440 pressure off somebody having to cover all of a sudden, 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.560 if if if he's over here wearing somebody out, maybe 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.360 they have to move Ladaim we're over there. Well then 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.799 that that frees up Cooper. So yeah, you start taking 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.960 weapons off the field and your team becomes compromised, then 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.800 you're gonna lose games twelve to ten. That that's just 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.039 the way the NFL is. One area, you have to 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.440 win a game twelve to ten. Yeah, they did they 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:42.000 want they did. They won without Drew Brees at quarterback. 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.440 Give him credit. They played exactly how they needed to play. 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:48.039 One area where Gallup has really grown is making contested catches, 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.040 and I think that comes with just being a stronger 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:51.440 player this year. I mean, you go back and you 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.279 watch that Saints game. There are a lot of tight 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.440 window throws to make that I think he could have 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.240 helped in that area, no question about it. They got 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.719 some separation on the Eli Apple for or you know, 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.160 just not enough of that, just not enough, you know. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.560 I don't know if you've had a chance to examine 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:11.280 further what happened defensively, what the Saints were doing that 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:15.000 put the Cowboys off kilter. Clog and cover and cover 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.280 two where two of the things that you know, clog 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.880 and cover is my way of saying rush three, drop eight. 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.800 They were going to make Dak Prescott beating him in 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.120 this game as well as Dak Prescott had played the 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:29.520 previous three weeks. Uh. They they were determined that, okay, 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.920 well we'll stop this running game. And they did. They 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.640 did a great job. We've talked about what what uh 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:36.560 you know what those guys did up front, you know, 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.520 Malcolm Brown, those guys, they did a great job of 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.520 controlling the line of scrimmage. They got just enough pressure 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.240 on Prescott and you know, no sacks until the very end, 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.800 but got just enough pressure to kind of affect him. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.920 But on the secondary, they covered very very well. Lattimore 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.080 had one of his best games of the year and 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:56.880 what he did with Cooper. Rob talked about the the 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:01.280 the whole thing with you know, uh didn't nyeing those routes, 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:04.120 making sure that they weren't able to execute them to 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.640 the best of their ability. But yeah, a lot of 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.240 Cover two and then a lot of drop eight to 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.720 make to have to make Prescott make those throws. And 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.480 they were able to stop the running game without loading 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.560 the box every snap. And when you can do that, 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.680 you can continue to play that shell defense and just 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.640 kind of keep things in front of you. Absolutely, that's 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.760 what they were able to do. You know, you look 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.800 at what the Saints have up front on defense, and 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.040 they got Sheldon Rankin's back, and then you were talked 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.880 about Malcolm Brown and how well he played in the game, 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:35.000 and then with the ends Davenport as well as Cam Jordan. 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.120 I mean, you've got four first round draft picks there, 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.559 I think in this day and age in the NFL. 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:44.040 And then those are the type players mobile defensive lineman 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.959 that Rod Marinilli is always looking for, especially though in 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.520 this day and age in the NFL. Getting those active, 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.679 you know, high motor guys up front, even against Pro 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.520 bowlers on an offensive line, they can give you fits. Well, 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.680 you know what. And I heard Jason this after the 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.559 game and Dak said it too, talking about their front 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.680 and he kept talking about their movement. And I don't 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.840 know how much they were moving, like before the snap 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.800 or at the snap, but it was almost like you 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.120 were trying to hit a target and you were a 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.760 step half step slow because you had you're not looking 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.600 at the ball, crowd noise, and the crowd noise, you know, 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.480 it's not an excuse, it's real. No, it's real. And 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.600 so with their moving at the last second, you're having 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:31.600 trouble making adjustments, and you know, guys were missing up 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.760 front well, and you know, and that led to not 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:35.440 being able to run the ball. And that's what they 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.840 invited you to do. They put an invitation out there. 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.160 You think you can run against us, come out at us, 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:44.000 and they couldn't. Saints had the same problem protecting, I mean, 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.320 and it was a home game for them. Movement gave 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.920 them a lot of problems in that game. So if 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.760 you've got active guys, if you've got down guys that 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.520 can twist and stunt and cause problems, and you got 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.840 a linebacker that could play physically like Smith does when 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.520 he blitzes, then that makes all the difference in the world. 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.200 You can affect the pocket, you know, I mean, things 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.280 look so bleak at the end of that game with 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.080 them maybe getting the ball back and they get a 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.000 huge sack kicks him out of field goal range even too. 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.280 So you know, give both defenses a lot of credit 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.640 for the way that they played. The Saints were just 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.360 a little bit better at defending the run than the 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:23.320 Cowboys were in that game, and which allowed them to 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:27.280 have longer drives and they didn't convert into touchdowns. They 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.240 kicked field goals, and you can go back and look, 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.760 and there was a couple instances where it's like, okay, 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.960 that was kind of a gift field goal. You know, 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.320 if you don't go for it on fourth down, maybe 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.840 you don't fumble, and if you don't fumble, maybe they 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:41.880 don't get the ball back. And if they don't get 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.000 the ball back, maybe they don't go down and kick 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.439 a field goal with no time left. I still applaud 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.640 him from it was the right call, was absolutely, you 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.280 know what he you know, it's you're trying to get 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.000 your team going. And I always I've been very critical 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:56.960 of him of not knowing the pulse of his team. 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:58.760 He knew the pulse of his team. He knew, Hey, 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.120 I have to do something here. You know. It didn't 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.000 work out, and you know, unfortunately that's the case. But 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:06.920 I applaud him for trying to be aggressive in that. 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.559 I was. I was waiting for Sean Payton to try 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.400 to steal a possession. Yeah, I was waiting for something 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.680 because I figured, you know what, at some point he's 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:18.480 gonna he's he's not scoring enough and he wants an 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.680 extra possession. Better watch out for that onsite kick. You 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:25.040 never faked up last year in this game. Yeah remember that? Yeah, 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.800 you're right, Yeah, because he's he's had an on site 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:29.800 kick in the Super Bowl before, so you never you 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.960 never know. And he did try some misdirection stuff in 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.320 the first half to try to help Bridgewall. He's trying 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.719 to take the pressure off Bridgewall exactly. Yeah, and he 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.840 and he did and they got twelve points. My god, 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.200 if you give up twelve points you ought to win. Yeah, 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.559 wasn't good enough on that, but didn't allent good game 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.560 plan for them, good game plan the ld Bell product. 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.480 I knew that was kind Is that right? I didn't 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:55.480 know that? Yeah, you knew that. I knew that. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.240 of course he knew that. You know. I was just 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.720 thinking what you've been should uh Sean Payton to the 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:06.120 on side kick? When who knows if where John Payton 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.200 his what his legacy will wind up being. But I 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.840 think maybe the signature moment, however long he coaches in 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.760 his career, he can be coaching for fifty years and 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:22.920 people will remember that a sign the signature moment of 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:26.400 his career. I'll tell you my signature moment with Sean 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.160 Payton was when he was a the lowest wrong coach 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.800 on our staff in Philadelphia. He was the quality control 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.800 guy basically for us, the lowest of the coaches, and 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:40.080 we gave him the quarterbacks to evaluate and he said, 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.560 he says, if you're gonna he goes, if I had 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.400 a choice between Manning and and Leaf, he goes, I'm 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.640 taking Manning every single time. He's gonna have a longer, 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.120 better career. And he kind of gave a litany of things. 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.360 He also said, he goes, someone needs to draft Matt Hasselbeck. 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.079 He goes, Matt Hasselbeck will have a long career, and 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.520 I'm like a kid from Boston College. He goes, yeah, 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.680 trust me, this guy will have have a long career 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:03.840 and he'll play well for somebody, and somebody will take 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.480 him late. Sean was a really good evaluator of players. 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:08.600 He really had a good eye of that kind of stuff. 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:12.240 You know why he liked Hasselbeck coming. He know, he 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:14.640 studied his he studied his game. He liked the fact 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:18.520 he thought that that Hasselbeck was a leader. He really 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.600 liked the fact of how accurate he could throw the 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.959 football and he could throw it down the field. But 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.240 he was on me about that in that nineteen ninety 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.480 eight draft. He says, hey, you need a quarterback. You 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.360 had to take this Matt Hasselbeck because he's gonna play, 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.160 he is going to be a good player. And he did. 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:34.960 He Oh, Sean always had a rule. I think Jason 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.160 Garretts are rually good evaluator as well. If you have 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.000 a head coach that's a good evaluator, that makes all 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:42.240 the difference in the world of how your scouting apartment 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.600 can run, and Jason grew up obviously around it. The 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:49.040 football evaluation part of his scout DYEA and Hasselbeck being 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.360 a that's I was wondering if that might be something 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.199 where Peyton said, Okay, he's from an athletic family. Well, 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.360 he just he evaluated the Boston College tape. He really 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.240 liked him a lot. That's what I'll remember. Not much 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.240 an onsite kick. I remember he sort of liked h 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.120 some guy named Romo. Well, that was where I was going. 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.839 We were at the Combine two years ago. I got 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.880 to sit down with him about for Deep Blue, and 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.160 he was thought. He was so on the phone trying 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.439 to get the Romo thing done. And I know there 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.400 was the Eastern Illinois connection and all that, but he 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.000 has a knack worked in the whole draft. Yeah. For Actually, 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.960 my signature moment with him was turning down l Davis 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:27.240 for a head coaching job and staying with the Cowboys 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:32.240 for another year, which turned out pretty good decision. Yeah, Um, 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:36.720 Drew Henson. Remind me what Parcels thought of Drew Henson. Yeah, 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.760 we listened to stick Michael, the general manager of the Yankee. Michael. Yeah, 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:42.880 stick Michael. Here is he's trying to tell us how 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.000 to evaluate football players, you know, and I'm thinking, you 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:47.600 know what we need to tell him. He's got this 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.840 guy named Mariona Rivera. You might want to bring him 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:51.680 out of the bullpen. He might can help you win 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:55.040 some some games. That's what I felt like saying. We 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:58.560 should have what was what did he say? That great athlete? 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:00.280 You know, he's got a guy, he's got you know, 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.840 the arm angles and all that. Sean Payton absolutely hated him, 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.000 hated him. We side sat down with Sean Payton and 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.160 watched nine games of Michigan. He goes, this guy can't play. 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:10.800 He goes this guy, he goes, I don't know whatever 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:12.560 he's seen in this guy, this guy, how about how 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.080 about have career he had? He tricked him in baseball 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.000 and football, Well tricked him in both, and at Michigan 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.240 he started ahead of Tom Brad. Yeah, we're I know, 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.600 periscope's losing their mind right now because we're talking about this. 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:26.040 But anyway, I'm just saying that that's okay. But but this, 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.240 this is, this is, this is this is why again 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.280 Sean Payton was the only one in that room. It's 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.920 till Bill parcels he cannot play. I would not take 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.680 this guy, Sean. I mean I remember that clear as 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:41.400 the day, because Sean had Sean had problems with his mechanics. 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.720 He used to drag. The guy would drag his elbow 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.360 to throw and thus the ball. He'd had problem with 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.880 his accuracy and stuff like that, and Sean's like, I 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.320 had problems with his processing, Yeah, well I can throw it. 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:56.320 He was a maybe a four point student. What he 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.320 was a classic example of a point player or whatever 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.800 he was who couldn't process quickly on the field. That 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.800 happens that basically you could only give him, okay, he 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:07.800 can throw to this side of the field on this play, 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.000 and don't give him a whole fee. Took a lot 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:11.880 of heat for that one because he was the only 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:13.640 one in the room. And again we're listening to stick 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.760 Michael ge Michael the general manage for the Yankees, tell 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.720 us what a great person and player and all that 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:19.560 he is. And I'm like, why in the hell is 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.440 he not playing for the Yankees? Then why is he 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.680 trying to sell us? They got us on a conference 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:27.760 call and did this in conference. This quarterback gets us 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.480 back to Dak. Yeah, and when you look at what 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.640 he did in college as a scout and trying to 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.960 figure out can he make the transition to the NFL. 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.680 And one of the big things is, all right, you 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:44.120 really don't know base probably off his college stuff, whether 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.680 he can process what he can read an NFL defense whatever, 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.640 because he didn't haven't seen it before, you don't know 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:51.840 what he can do. I think the thing with Dak 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.680 that makes everybody you fall in love with him at 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.720 Mississippi State was the fact of how hard he worked, 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:01.120 how he did everything in his hour. You talk to 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.960 Dan Mullen, you talk to the coaches there at Mississippi State. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.560 Everybody was talking about work ethic, that he was going 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.960 to do everything he and his power to get it 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:10.760 and to understand it and to try. I think that 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.600 Jason Garrett has talked about that as well here. So 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:15.600 you know, you might not have seen it in college, 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.920 but if you've got the ability, the desire, the want 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.320 to the athletes guy, yeah, yeah, if you got that 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.520 the leader, all those things translate into what you can do. 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:27.520 And the other thing about Dak and this is where 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:31.000 we are here, coming off a loss, the extreme confidence 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.760 with which he goes about everything that he does, and 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.040 it just it's infectious in that locker room. I mean, 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.800 we talk about twenty four hour rule in this league. 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.960 This team has moved past that New Orleans game by now. 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.040 Hopefully you'll learn from it though a little bit. Hopefully 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.320 you learned a little bit. 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