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Speaker 2: Dallas coming up a little bit. The MAVs are going there.
Speaker 2: It's Luca his first game against his former team back
Speaker 2: in Dallas.
Speaker 3: I'm expecting a standing ovation.
Speaker 2: I don't think this is Jimmy Butler going back to Miami,
Speaker 2: where you might applaud him in the beginning and then
Speaker 2: boo him every time he gets the ball. But this
Speaker 2: is different. Jimmy Butler wanted out of Miami. Luca didn't
Speaker 2: want out of Dallas. So we'll have some more coverage
Speaker 2: on this. Also, what happened in Denver where you have
Speaker 2: a bloodbath with three games to go in the regular season,
Speaker 2: you're trying to hold on to a play on spot.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're going to end up in a play in
Speaker 2: game and you fire your coach and your GM and
Speaker 2: Michael Malone will get a job. That's not the question.
Speaker 2: The question is why is he getting another job? What
Speaker 2: exactly happened, the friction between Calvin Booth, the GM, the
Speaker 2: front office and why you do it now? Is this
Speaker 2: giving your team a spark? I wonder because they're going
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Speaker 2: He'll by the Master's par three contest is today. I
Speaker 2: got an opportunity to caddy for Peter Jacobson, former golf pro,
Speaker 2: and I put on the bibs, I put on the
Speaker 2: caddy outfit there at Augusta and I'm with Payne Stewart
Speaker 2: was in our group.
Speaker 3: Fred Couples was in our group.
Speaker 2: And I had a mishap where I'm trying to put
Speaker 2: the straps on with Peter Jacobson's clubs, and I had
Speaker 2: one strap on and then I had the club's turnover
Speaker 2: and they all fell out right in front of everybody
Speaker 2: at the par three contest. Everybody was laughing, except for
Speaker 2: Peter Jacobson because those are his clubs. He's going to
Speaker 2: be playing the Masters with those clubs, and oh my god,
Speaker 2: I was so embarrassed. And then we got to I
Speaker 2: forget the second to last hole, and then Peter jacob
Speaker 2: goes here and he hands me a pitching wedge.
Speaker 3: I said, what do you what do you want me
Speaker 3: to do?
Speaker 2: He goes, you guys are always you know, you guys
Speaker 2: think this is so easy. You you know, announcers, you know,
Speaker 2: go ahead. I said, I'm not going to hit it,
Speaker 2: and then Payne Stewart he goes, yeah, yeah, it's so easy, right,
Speaker 2: And I said, all right, how about I'll we get
Speaker 2: up to the green and I'll put one of your putts.
Speaker 2: So Payne Stewart has me with a putt that is diabolical.
Speaker 2: I don't know's it's seventy feet away and up over
Speaker 2: a hill and down over a hill, and and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: go ahead. I said, well, let me have a read
Speaker 2: on it, you know, let me use your caddy like
Speaker 2: you have. So's caddy came over and he said, you
Speaker 2: have no shot, and I said, okay, but let's act
Speaker 2: like this.
Speaker 3: So there's a whole crowd there.
Speaker 2: And of course I didn't get it close, but you
Speaker 2: know that feeling of you're you're out there and it's
Speaker 2: just the par three. So I've spilled clubs, I've got
Speaker 2: a in my hand, and then you're like, I'm not
Speaker 2: ready for this, even for a celebrity event.
Speaker 3: That's another thing.
Speaker 2: When you play in those celebrity golf events, people think
Speaker 2: you're actually good.
Speaker 3: When I would play at Pebble.
Speaker 2: Beach, they'd be like right next to you and you're
Speaker 2: hitting shots and'll be like, man, I could hit you,
Speaker 2: and they go, oh, I go no, I could actually
Speaker 2: hit you with the club with the ball. But Masters
Speaker 2: is something spectacular, never tired.
Speaker 3: When you're there.
Speaker 2: You know, when you see it, it's as if you've
Speaker 2: seen it for the first time each time you go
Speaker 2: there eight seven seven three DP show email address Dpatdanpatrick
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Speaker 2: in or out coming up and here is Luca. Luca
Speaker 2: got ejected from last night's game against Oklahoma City.
Speaker 3: He has.
Speaker 2: Seventy three technicals in the last five years, most in
Speaker 2: the NBA, and he talked about the ejection last night.
Speaker 4: You can see it. But you know, I never got
Speaker 4: a fen injecta. Never you If he's gonna talk, I'm
Speaker 4: going to talk about Nick only so that they had
Speaker 4: nothing to do with the rest. So I didn't really understand.
Speaker 2: Okay, So he got one technical for talking to the official.
Speaker 2: The other one he was talking to a fan and
Speaker 2: I think the official had rabbit ears and thought that
Speaker 2: he was talking to him and then he ran him.
Speaker 2: But Luca does not get benefit of the down.
Speaker 3: He doesn't.
Speaker 2: And Vincent Goodwill, who covers the NBA for Yahoo Sports,
Speaker 2: brought up something interesting. He said, you know, this is
Speaker 2: a child prodigy, so he has been enabled his entire career.
Speaker 2: Growing up he was a child prodigy and probably didn't
Speaker 2: hear no or that's you know, don't do that, and
Speaker 2: he might have that behavior that he's just carried into
Speaker 2: the NBA because he does complain an awful lot. But
Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting analysis on Luka Donchez. But
Speaker 2: you have the game coming up tonight and is over
Speaker 2: under I think is thirty and a half points against
Speaker 2: the former team?
Speaker 3: Uh pole?
Speaker 2: Question for the final hour of the program, then we'll
Speaker 2: play in or out? And why is Jalen Milroe going
Speaker 2: to the NFL draft Seaton.
Speaker 5: It's funny how prodigy being called a child prodigy can
Speaker 5: either be used as a positive or a negative. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's probably really awesome for a while, but man, that
Speaker 5: sure is a slight right there.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 3: Well, I remember Mozart.
Speaker 2: You know, if you read about Mozart that he was
Speaker 2: a prodigy, but he was very enabled and was childlike overrated. Okay,
Speaker 2: whose career would you rather have? Mozarts or Luka Dunge.
Speaker 5: I don't know if Mozart's getting paid as much as
Speaker 5: you think he should be with all that music.
Speaker 6: Artist Maybe he is, but artists never get paid like
Speaker 6: that while they're alive.
Speaker 3: Music business is tough these days, gotta tell you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, streaming, Yeah, they didn't have Napster back then. With Mozart,
Speaker 2: didn't have to worry about that anybody's sampling his stuff.
Speaker 5: I think musicians right now kill to go back to
Speaker 5: the napster days rather than the Spotify.
Speaker 6: Era Mozart career salary game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how much did well? It's like Vincent van Go.
Speaker 2: Van Go didn't sell any of his art until he
Speaker 2: died and his brother was his agent.
Speaker 3: Turns out this is pretty good.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you see what Vinni's been working on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Vincent and Theo, Theo van Go didn't do a
Speaker 2: very good job selling his art.
Speaker 4: Yes, don didn't even sell us year. He got it
Speaker 4: off and just sent it to the girl in the mail.
Speaker 5: Okay, league with the least job security right now, and
Speaker 5: if the NBA's got fifty two percent of that vote,
Speaker 5: followed by the NFL, we also put up there the
Speaker 5: Denver Nuggets are nuts or doing the right thing right now?
Speaker 5: Ninety four percent of the audience have them as nuts,
Speaker 5: Denver nuts good nuts, gits, the Denver Nuts nuts gits
Speaker 5: all right, Paul, time to play in or.
Speaker 6: Out Mays and simple you say in or out?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 6: Nikola Jokic will win another title with another team in
Speaker 6: or out.
Speaker 3: I'm out.
Speaker 7: Out, I mean, chritzy out.
Speaker 6: You think he's finishing his career.
Speaker 2: There, Well, he's got three more years under contract. Yeah,
Speaker 2: then he'll be thirty three. I just wonder, I don't
Speaker 2: know how much he wants to play, Like, he'll have
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame career, he'll have three hundred million
Speaker 2: dollars that he's made, and then maybe just goes back
Speaker 2: home and plays basketball.
Speaker 6: But since his game doesn't rely on explosiveness, him at
Speaker 6: thirty three could be similar to now, and he could
Speaker 6: sign a three year deal for two hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know if he wants to play.
Speaker 4: I got it.
Speaker 3: I'm sure he enjoys it.
Speaker 2: But I mean he always talks about he just wants
Speaker 2: to go back home and you know, play with his horses.
Speaker 7: Yes, Ton, is it that hard to suck it up
Speaker 7: and play a few more years of basketball a few
Speaker 7: hundred million dollars more?
Speaker 8: Could you be that done?
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm just throwing this ount there. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Can you love your.
Speaker 6: Horses and your donkeys? Just stick around a few.
Speaker 2: More years, Todd, I've got everything, and I'm going to retire, Okay,
Speaker 2: I've been called the joker of h I have heard.
Speaker 4: That on the street. I meant to tell you about that.
Speaker 3: What else?
Speaker 6: Here we go? The Warriors will be in the Western
Speaker 6: Conference finals, Fritzy, I'm out, Seaton out, Mark out out. Wow,
Speaker 6: not even the finals, not the final final in Western
Speaker 6: all right. If I could pick the Master's winner, it
Speaker 6: would be Rory McElroy. Damn, I'm going to you first.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm I'm in, I'm in.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: He completes the career Grand Slam. He's been through an
Speaker 2: awful lot. It felt like it was him against everybody
Speaker 2: from the Live tour. He was kind of the vocal
Speaker 2: critic of liv and you know, staunch defender of PGA tour.
Speaker 5: Yes, seton, did we just do a thing with Dylan
Speaker 5: on our Master's picks?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Is Rory on yours?
Speaker 2: No? I picked Scottie show. It sounds like you're out
Speaker 2: then what no rooting for?
Speaker 5: You're rooting for?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I I can root for Todd to
Speaker 2: do something good on the show.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's true. Here we go.
Speaker 6: I would take Sunday Masters tickets over Super Bowl tickets.
Speaker 3: I'm in.
Speaker 6: Marvin I'm out, Ritzy out Seaton and I'm in on Masters.
Speaker 6: That seems just so impossible.
Speaker 2: But you haven't been there. You've been to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: But I will tell you to be there now. I'd
Speaker 2: much rather watch the Masters on TV than the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: But to be there in the moment, and you could
Speaker 2: actually set up shop wherever you wanted to. You could
Speaker 2: be on sixteen, you could be at eighteen, you could
Speaker 2: be twelve. Actually, twelve is the best vantage point because
Speaker 2: you you know, well, there's a couple of places there.
Speaker 2: Don't want to give away any trade secrets there, all right, Paul?
Speaker 4: What else?
Speaker 6: Last one? If I were Alabama quarterback Jalen Milroe, I
Speaker 6: would attend to the first round of the NFL Draft
Speaker 6: in Green Bay. Dan, you're gonna go last?
Speaker 2: Oh, Okay, Todd, I would not attend, Okay, Seton, I
Speaker 2: would go, Martha.
Speaker 3: I'm out, Paul, I'm in.
Speaker 6: I would go.
Speaker 2: I'm out. But is he going there for a payday?
Speaker 2: With some of the other things that you can do
Speaker 2: when you go to the draft? Is he actually going
Speaker 2: to the draft? Three NFL scouts told USA Today that
Speaker 2: they would be shocked if Jalen Milroe were picked in
Speaker 2: the first two days, first two days, so that's the
Speaker 2: first three rounds.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's going there for business or
Speaker 2: is he going to go there and he's going to
Speaker 2: be on camera now he's if he's drafted high, then
Speaker 2: it might be Pittsburgh at twenty one seaton.
Speaker 5: I would go just it's the only time in your
Speaker 5: life you're going to get that invitation. It's never coming again.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I would go, And I would just go
Speaker 5: with the expectation of, like, all right, if I don't
Speaker 5: go today, then who cares. I still had fun today,
Speaker 5: don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: But then you could not go the next day. So
Speaker 2: then that's rounds one, two, and three. I mean they
Speaker 2: the commissioner decided to do away with the put the
Speaker 2: camera on the draft pick.
Speaker 3: Who's sliding? Yeah, Pauline.
Speaker 6: According to NFL draft analyst for the Athletic Dane Brugler,
Speaker 6: Jalen Melroe, has accepted the invitation, will attend the draft
Speaker 6: in green bag.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you know, things gets squirreling. He certainly had
Speaker 2: some great time. You know, his pro day he ran
Speaker 2: a four to three nine or something crazy like that,
Speaker 2: and all you have to do is look at that
Speaker 2: win against Georgia. He went twenty seven to thirty three,
Speaker 2: two touchdowns, rush for one hundred and seventeen yards, two touchdowns.
Speaker 2: They beat Georgia. I mean, if you look at that
Speaker 2: tape against an NFL quality defense that Georgia normally has. Okay,
Speaker 2: could you see Pittsburgh pulling the trigger here?
Speaker 3: Yes, Pauling.
Speaker 6: What about a team that has an established quarterback who's
Speaker 6: kind of on his way out, like the La Rams
Speaker 6: with Matthew Stafford. He probably has two more years and
Speaker 6: then it's over. And Jalen Milroe could sit there for
Speaker 6: a year or two and then step right in. That
Speaker 6: seems like he seems like a project player.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but then you might look at him and go,
Speaker 2: if you're the Colts, yeah, that's like Anthony Richardson, like
Speaker 2: and look what happened there? A ton of potential, freakishly athletic.
Speaker 2: But do you want to risk a first round draft
Speaker 2: pick there? Because Jackson Dart Shador Sanders cam Ward And
Speaker 2: you know, once again you're you're starting to get a
Speaker 2: little more. I checked in with my source with the
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns man. He's not budget they are. They have
Speaker 2: to be under it. They you know, a cone of
Speaker 2: silence there because they said, got any indications here. And
Speaker 2: I was told that two through nine will take the
Speaker 2: best player available in his opinion, So teams two through
Speaker 2: nine are taken the best player available.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Therefore, there's not a strategy as much as who is
Speaker 2: that guy? Okay, Travis Hunter is there? Abdul Carter? Okay,
Speaker 2: do we take one of those guys? Okay, we'll take
Speaker 2: that guy. The Giants are then next? Do they take
Speaker 2: Abdul Carter? Do they take Travis Hunter? That's sort of
Speaker 2: the feeling that I got from a source of mine.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if Cleveland is out of the quarterback.
Speaker 2: I still think, and I'll go back to what I
Speaker 2: was told a long time ago before anybody else I
Speaker 2: think was talking about this, that Kirk Cousins after the draft,
Speaker 2: the Falcons will accommodate him and let him be traded
Speaker 2: to Cleveland. I don't know what that means with salary.
Speaker 2: I don't know any of that stuff, but I'll stay
Speaker 2: with it because I was told that that Kirk wants out,
Speaker 2: and the question is reworking his deal and what's Cleveland
Speaker 2: have to get to you know, compensation here, but maybe
Speaker 2: that's a fifth round draft pick?
Speaker 3: Yes, Marv?
Speaker 7: Is it just me? Or is this draft really lacking
Speaker 7: real star power? And that's what makes Jaylen Milrow such
Speaker 7: a you know, hot commodity. As far as attending the draft.
Speaker 2: Well, when somebody says, boy, interior lineman, eh, you know
Speaker 2: there's a run on interior linement, it doesn't exactly you know,
Speaker 2: get your pom poms out you need to have.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: That's why shud Or Sanders has been talked about so
Speaker 2: much because he's the one name player and then the
Speaker 2: other name player is his teammate, Travis Hunter. But Abdul
Speaker 2: Carter to me, could be a Hall of famer, you know,
Speaker 2: But we want to talk about the people that people
Speaker 2: are curious about, because I could tell you, you know,
Speaker 2: there's an interior defensive lineman who's going to be a
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer in this draft and you go, okay,
Speaker 2: there's no wide receivers really in this draft?
Speaker 7: Yes, mart Well, I think because the NFL is a
Speaker 7: copycat league. You got to look, Interior alignment have won
Speaker 7: Super Bowls and they've been a big part of it.
Speaker 7: So I think that kind of gauges people's interest.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're interested at all. They should be
Speaker 2: because that's how you build your team.
Speaker 7: Well, if you say, hey, this is the next Chris Jones,
Speaker 7: is the next Aaron.
Speaker 3: Donald, they don't care.
Speaker 2: The average fan is like, I need to know where
Speaker 2: Ashton Genti is going and shoudor Sanders Travis Hunter. That's
Speaker 2: what they want to know. Yeah, I'm sorry, that's really disappointed.
Speaker 7: If you're a real fan.
Speaker 3: I know, but we've seen this before. We need a
Speaker 3: bj Raji bj raji.
Speaker 7: He helped win a Super Bowl for the Packers. He
Speaker 7: cut good job. No, wow, I'm all in on the
Speaker 7: interior line in this sun. I know that that's what
Speaker 7: you need to win. That's why the Eagles won. They
Speaker 7: have the best offense. They have the best combination of
Speaker 7: offensive indepen. Why aren't we yelling at each other because
Speaker 7: we're an Emmy nominating sportstow good Sports Radio converts.
Speaker 2: All right, let me take a break. What kind of
Speaker 2: reception does Luca get tonight? What the hell happened in Denver?
Speaker 2: We'll try to get some answers coming up next here
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Speaker 2: Lakers favored by four tonight against Dallas. Over under for
Speaker 2: Luca is thirty and a half. Lebron twenty four and
Speaker 2: a half. Make way for Tim McMahon ESPN, NBA Reporter
Speaker 2: and you can see his or listen to his podcast
Speaker 2: on the Hoop Collective, the band McMahon in the book
Speaker 2: The Wonder Boy, Luka duncik and the Curse of Greatness.
Speaker 2: Good to see you again, Tim. What kind of reaction
Speaker 2: do you think Luca gets tonight, Tudi Dan, It is
Speaker 2: going to be a surreal night here in Dallas. And look,
Speaker 2: this is a heartbroken fan base to this day, certainly
Speaker 2: a lot of anger, outrage in the wake of the
Speaker 2: trade that is starting to kind of turn into apathy.
Speaker 4: There will be nothing apathetic about the reception that Luca receives.
Speaker 4: And I this is going to be a fan base
Speaker 4: that felt betrayed by this trade, that is celebrating six
Speaker 4: and a half years of spectacular brilliance and mourning that
Speaker 4: it wasn't much much much longer than that. And then
Speaker 4: you know the Mavericks as an organization, they're in this
Speaker 4: awkward spot right. They dumped this dude. He didn't want out.
Speaker 4: He was closing on a house, his American forever home
Speaker 4: in Dallas, lost his earnest money. Not that he can't
Speaker 4: afford it, but you know, this guy was locked in
Speaker 4: long term to Dallas, couldn't wait to sign the super
Speaker 4: Max contract. They dumped them in the middle of the night.
Speaker 4: They pretty much publicly shamed him on the way out.
Speaker 4: And now they've got to show some appreciation. You like
Speaker 4: these Oh, these are these are classes should should soothe
Speaker 4: any hard feelings. These are the shirts on the seats tonight.
Speaker 4: I don't know how to pronounce that last word. There's
Speaker 4: you know, versyv. I don't know have alla sah to
Speaker 4: say verse whatever. Thanks for everything in Slovenian should certainly
Speaker 4: soothe any hard feelings.
Speaker 8: It will be.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you say, appreciate it pale in Slovenian.
Speaker 4: You know there will be a tribute video play, but
Speaker 4: let's just call it like we see it. This is
Speaker 4: going to be extraordinarily awkward because the only way that
Speaker 4: the Matters could attempt to justify trading a generational talent
Speaker 4: as he approaches his prime was to dump on him,
Speaker 4: was to cite the conditioning concerns, the culture concerns, you know,
Speaker 4: all those sort of things which mass fans didn't want
Speaker 4: to hear. You know, Lucas certainly felt a certain way
Speaker 4: about it. And then you know, Luca last night said
Speaker 4: he doesn't know how he's going to react. He's going
Speaker 4: to be emotional. He's used to being the enemy and
Speaker 4: Arenas he's used to kind of thriving off of that
Speaker 4: energy as we saw last night. He's used to kind
Speaker 4: of going back and forth with fans on the road.
Speaker 4: He's not used to an entire arena wrapping roat arena
Speaker 4: wrapping their arms around him and you know, kind of
Speaker 4: loving them up. And it'll be very interesting to see
Speaker 4: how he handles that.
Speaker 2: If Mark Cuban was still the majority owner, does this
Speaker 2: deal happen?
Speaker 4: Hell no, no, zero point zero percent ants. Cuban tried
Speaker 4: to talk Nico Harrison out of it, but Cuban got
Speaker 4: a i mean at five minute heads up, and there's this,
Speaker 4: you know, the equivalent of a handshake agreement on the deal.
Speaker 4: By the time Cuban got a heads up on it,
Speaker 4: but no when when Cuban lost juice that made this
Speaker 4: trade a remote possibility. And look, man Mark Cuban as
Speaker 4: the essentially as the general manager of the Mavericks for
Speaker 4: you know, twenty some odd years, had plenty of personal
Speaker 4: missteps going When we can go back to Steve Nash,
Speaker 4: the Porzingis trade ended up being a dud in Dallas.
Speaker 4: They completely bungled the brunts and situation. You know, I
Speaker 4: could go on and on. One thing he got right
Speaker 4: was that Luka Doncic was the guy to take the
Speaker 4: torch from Dirk. Luka Doncic was the guy to build
Speaker 4: around and Cuban's strategy with Luca, you know, to just
Speaker 4: put a bluntly, was to kiss his butt and make
Speaker 4: sure he did everything possible to ensure that Luca was
Speaker 4: happy in Dalla's long term. And I think that's a
Speaker 4: reasonable strategy with this level of superstar. Luca's not the
Speaker 4: only superstar and who gets his butt kissed on a
Speaker 4: regular basis. But they went from kissing his butt for
Speaker 4: six years to stabbing him in the back in year
Speaker 4: seven rush off of Finals appearance. There's no way that
Speaker 4: happens if Cuban's still in charge.
Speaker 2: You know, you speak about kind of enabling and kissing
Speaker 2: Luca's butt. You write the book The Wonder Boy The
Speaker 2: Curse of Greatness. We had Vincent Goodwill from Yahoo's Sports
Speaker 2: on last hour and he said, because I was asking
Speaker 2: about this behavior that Luca has, that he has seventy
Speaker 2: three technicals in the last five years, most of anybody
Speaker 2: in the NBA. And Vincent said, you know, he's been
Speaker 2: enabled his entire life, probably hasn't been told no, and
Speaker 2: is used to getting his way. You were around him
Speaker 2: writing this book. Can you see any kind of relationship
Speaker 2: between how he's brought up and how he acts on
Speaker 2: the court.
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, a lot of superstars around the NBA
Speaker 4: are enabled, and Lucas flaws are as obvious as his talent.
Speaker 4: There's two main flaws. The conditioning concerns, which honestly is
Speaker 4: as much about diet as it is conditioning. You know,
Speaker 4: does the guy enjoy a post game bruski or two skis? Yes,
Speaker 4: you know, his his post game routine and sometimes a
Speaker 4: summer routine are way too similar to mine, which you
Speaker 4: can get away with. Is a sports writer, you can
Speaker 4: you know?
Speaker 3: And but you know what's crazy.
Speaker 4: I say. I was about to say, you can't get
Speaker 4: away with it as an NBA superstar, but he he's
Speaker 4: a five time first team All NBA selection who hasn't
Speaker 4: at his prime. You know, he's been to the finals.
Speaker 4: He took another completely different supporting cast of the conference finals,
Speaker 4: and that's part of it. Is like you could tell him, hey, lookie,
Speaker 4: you got to change your approach. Lookie, you got to
Speaker 4: lay off the rest, you know, like the petulance is
Speaker 4: not helping you. But it's hard to say, dude, you've
Speaker 4: got to really change your ways when this dude was
Speaker 4: a legitimate MVP candidate before he he could legally buy
Speaker 4: one of those beers in America. I mean, at the
Speaker 4: age of twenty, he was putting up historically dominant numbers
Speaker 4: his rookie year. He arrived and it was like he
Speaker 4: was an instant star and the ascension was quick, and
Speaker 4: it's hard to say, hey, what you're doing is not
Speaker 4: working when yeah, it was, I mean, was it perfect?
Speaker 4: You know, could he have been better? You could argue that,
Speaker 4: but it's hard to say his way didn't work when
Speaker 4: his accomplishments at the age of now twenty six stack
Speaker 4: up with the very best who have ever played in
Speaker 4: the league.
Speaker 2: Tim mcmahony ESPN, NBA reporter covering Luca's return to Dallas,
Speaker 2: the Lakers and the MAVs seven thirty Eastern on the
Speaker 2: mother Ship, Mike Green, Doris Burg, Richard Jefferson will have
Speaker 2: the called in Tim's book, The Wonder Boy, Luca and
Speaker 2: the Curse of Greatness, now available online wherever books are.
Speaker 2: So we were shocked with Luca. We were shocked with
Speaker 2: what happened in Denver. Both are hard to explain. But
Speaker 2: with Denver at the end of the season, tell me
Speaker 2: what the logic is to do this right now, to
Speaker 2: fire your coach and GM.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and let's just be straight. Your shock Luke was traded, period,
Speaker 4: Your shock that Malone was fired now, yes, with a
Speaker 4: few games left in the regular season. Like everybody, it
Speaker 4: was not a secret that there had been more than
Speaker 4: a cold war, like just you know, pretty much warfare
Speaker 4: between Michael Malone and Cavin Booth. And the anticipation was
Speaker 4: this is gonna be one or the other this summer. Well,
Speaker 4: Josh Cronkey, you know, the face of the Nuggets ownership
Speaker 4: group basis on Now it's going to be both of
Speaker 4: them now. And what I was told is his explanation internally,
Speaker 4: you know, as he's meeting with people in the Nuggets organization,
Speaker 4: was Hey, this was an unsustainable situation and it felt like,
Speaker 4: you know, the plane was crashing and the co pilots
Speaker 4: were so busy bickering at each other and making it
Speaker 4: about themselves, talking about Michael Malone and Calvin Booth that
Speaker 4: he just needed to get them both out of the
Speaker 4: equation now, just looking at it from my perspective, with
Speaker 4: Michael Malone, he's the most successful coaching Nuggets history, wins record,
Speaker 4: both regular season playoffs a title two years ago. I
Speaker 4: would have thought that would have earned him the right
Speaker 4: to have one last crack at a playoff run to
Speaker 4: try to save his job, but Josh Kroncky decided, no,
Speaker 4: we need to get these guys out of the mix
Speaker 4: right now, and in his mind, that's the only way
Speaker 4: they're going to have a chance to salvage this season
Speaker 4: and put together a playoff run.
Speaker 3: Do you think Luca ends his career in Denver? Luca
Speaker 3: in Denver?
Speaker 2: I mean, Joe, sorry, I mean to shock you.
Speaker 4: Listen, I've been shocked by Luca transactions before Joker.
Speaker 3: Do you think Joker and his career in Denver?
Speaker 4: You know, so, one thing I always try to be
Speaker 4: careful about is putting words in somebody's mouth or speaking
Speaker 4: on something that I haven't spoken directly to a person about.
Speaker 4: So with that clarification, what I would say is everything
Speaker 4: about Joker is indicated that he's kind of cut from
Speaker 4: that dirt cloth, you know, that that extreme loyalty. You
Speaker 4: know why, Dirk he does have a championship, so it's
Speaker 4: not like he maybe will have to chase a ring
Speaker 4: somewhere else down the stretch of his career. So my
Speaker 4: guess would be that, yes, he is a Denver nugget
Speaker 4: from start to finish his career. But I mean, if
Speaker 4: that situation melts down in Denver and he looks around
Speaker 4: and it's you know, and he's playing on a mediocre team,
Speaker 4: I don't know, and you know what, maybe maybe he
Speaker 4: just says, to hell with it. I'm gonna go ride
Speaker 4: some ride my horses in Serbia.
Speaker 3: I'll give you okc or the field in the West.
Speaker 4: I still take Oklahoma City and look, man, the thunder
Speaker 4: are going to set the NBA record for the best
Speaker 4: point differential in a season that's not nothing. Have they
Speaker 4: done it? Have they made a deep playoff run? Obviously not,
Speaker 4: But this is a team that gave the Mavericks a
Speaker 4: hell of a series last year. The cumutive score in
Speaker 4: that series was even, by the way, dead even so,
Speaker 4: gave the Mavericks the best fight in the Western Conference,
Speaker 4: and then got significantly better bringing in Isaiah Hartenstein, bringing
Speaker 4: in Alix Caruso, two veteran role players Crusoe with championship
Speaker 4: experience that fit perfectly, and then internally, all their young
Speaker 4: guys got better, including the guy who's probably going to
Speaker 4: be the MVP of the league this year, Shake Gilders Alexander,
Speaker 4: who by the way, was spectacular in the playoffs last year. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this dude is significantly better than it was last year
Speaker 4: as the MVP runner up. Jalen Williams first All Star appearents,
Speaker 4: you know, learn from a disappointing playoff run. So yes,
Speaker 4: I would take okay se against the field in the
Speaker 4: Western Conference. Having said that, literally from the one to
Speaker 4: eight series on, they're going to be facing quality competition.
Speaker 4: They're going to be in a fight every single playoff series.
Speaker 2: And that loss by Minnesota last night was mind boggling
Speaker 2: and costly.
Speaker 3: How do you I, I.
Speaker 2: Know they're a dangerous team, but they're dangerous to themselves
Speaker 2: as well. Tim no doubt, I don't understand that you
Speaker 2: blow a lead that big.
Speaker 4: Well, and the Timberwolve's biggest flaw by a country mile,
Speaker 4: is they stink at closing games. They're a good comeback team,
Speaker 4: but protecting a lead, they're awful. And I think a
Speaker 4: big part of that is you have a young, ascending
Speaker 4: star and Anthony Edwards who is very much still learning
Speaker 4: on the job, a brilliant talent, a guy who you
Speaker 4: love to have is the foundation piece of your franchise,
Speaker 4: but twenty three years old, and you know he's not
Speaker 4: He's not like a Luca or a Lebron or a
Speaker 4: Joker in the sense of like just has this unbelievable
Speaker 4: natural feel. You know, those guys like Jimmy Hendricks, they
Speaker 4: pick up a guitar and they just feel it, they
Speaker 4: just know how to play it. Or Anthony Edwards is
Speaker 4: learning how to read sheet music and sometimes it's like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to see that crap. And you know
Speaker 4: his tendency is to lean into hero ball down the
Speaker 4: stretch of games, and a lot of times that blows
Speaker 4: up in his face, in the Timberwolves face, and that's
Speaker 4: why there might be a seven seat or an eight
Speaker 4: seed instead of a two or three.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you always, great, good luck with
Speaker 2: the book. Thanks for joining us, Tim, appreciate you having me.
Speaker 2: That's Tim McMahon, ESPN NBA Reporter. Also he has a
Speaker 2: podcast on The Hoop Collective and his new book, The
Speaker 2: Wonder Boy. It's Luca in the Curse of Greatness. You
Speaker 2: start to look at these coaches who have won championships
Speaker 2: since twenty fifteen. There's two head coaches still with their
Speaker 2: respective teams. You have Steve Kerr with Golden State, and
Speaker 2: you have Joe Missoula with the Boston Celtics. Michael Malone
Speaker 2: and Mike Budenholzer who was with the Bucks. He was
Speaker 2: let go in twenty twenty three. Frank Vogel, he won
Speaker 2: a championship with the Lakers. He was let go in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Nick Nurse, four years after guiding Toronto
Speaker 2: to a title, he was let go. Ty Lou brought
Speaker 2: a title to Cleveland three straight NBA Finals. He was
Speaker 2: fired six games into the twenty eighteen twenty nineteen season.
Speaker 2: There's not a lot of patience going on in sports
Speaker 2: now when it comes to your coach or your manager,
Speaker 2: because the average stay in all of these sports is
Speaker 2: around three years. I mean, imagine in your job if
Speaker 2: you go, man, be here, maybe three years. Like we
Speaker 2: lock in for jobs for a long time, at least
Speaker 2: you think you are. But these guys they're in it,
Speaker 2: and you're like, uh, I don't know. I want a
Speaker 2: title a couple of years ago, but my job's in jeopardy.
Speaker 2: Alex in Utah, Hi, Alex, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8: Hey, morning, guys. I'm just calling to just to congratulate you.
Speaker 8: I mean, just looking at the list of the other nominees,
Speaker 8: it's just so cool to see.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 8: You know, what is it a team of thirteen that
Speaker 8: are able to compete against like these huge networks. And
Speaker 8: what it is for me, I think that sets you
Speaker 8: guys apart, is that you guys tell the story of sports.
Speaker 8: I think in a way that other shows don't. Other
Speaker 8: shows don't. I feel like I'm a relatively new fan
Speaker 8: of sports, and so for you guys to be able
Speaker 8: to break down not just like eras and players and teams.
Speaker 8: But to break down like the stories of like why
Speaker 8: this team was monumental or why this player is so
Speaker 8: monumental is really helpful for someone somewhat of a novice
Speaker 8: for sports. And so I just don't think anyone does
Speaker 8: it like you, guys. So thanks for the last thanks
Speaker 8: for the stories, and thanks for the great sports radio conversation.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Alex. I treat you the audience the way
Speaker 2: I want to be treated. That's really what it is.
Speaker 2: You know, treat me with respect. You know, don't have
Speaker 2: silly takes, to have silly takes, get people on that
Speaker 2: are interesting, have a sense of humor. The teamwork that
Speaker 2: we have, and it is teamwork every single day. That's important.
Speaker 2: And you know, we've been very lucky. It's not by
Speaker 2: accident that this happens. We'll take a break, last golf
Speaker 2: for phone calls, what we learned, what's in store tomorrow,
Speaker 2: and this dang sports history.
Speaker 1: Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
Speaker 1: of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern
Speaker 1: six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls, What we learn, what's in
Speaker 2: store tomorrow, Dwight Howard, former Laker Orlando Magic going into
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. He'll join us on the program tomorrow.
Speaker 2: This Day in Sports History. Final results of the poll question.
Speaker 2: We got a few things to get to Dustin in Alabama. Hey, Dustin,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?
Speaker 11: Yes, thank you, I'm so proud of us for the
Speaker 11: Emmy nomination. I want to get all this in real quick. Well,
Speaker 11: I'd love to talk about my tide and Jalen Melroe
Speaker 11: or mel Kiper's my graft and Shador going to my Saints.
Speaker 11: Today's April Night, twenty twenty five. My youngest son, Taylor
Speaker 11: Grant's twelfth birthday, and eleven years ago, on what would
Speaker 11: be his very first birthday, I had the one in
Speaker 11: the lifetime opportunity by friend. I got invited. I'll expense
Speaker 11: paid trip to go to the Masters, of which I
Speaker 11: had decline in my son's very first birthday. Whoever life
Speaker 11: has irony all in it that year Bubba Watson won.
Speaker 11: My son has grown up and played golf. Speaking of
Speaker 11: child prodigies this very past year, Bubba Watson is very
Speaker 11: involved with the youth activities we do down here with golf,
Speaker 11: my son, my two sons played him and a bunch
Speaker 11: of other teams in a putt putt golf tournament and
Speaker 11: it came down to my two kids, Bubba Watson his teammate,
Speaker 11: of which they lost in a playoff. However, hopefully in
Speaker 11: ten to fifteen years we see my son Baylor and
Speaker 11: Jim Nancece telling a good backstory at the Masters. So
Speaker 11: just wanted to use my time to tell my son,
Speaker 11: thank you, Dustin.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Dustin.
Speaker 2: Although if you had to do it again and your
Speaker 2: son's first birthday are all expense paid trip to Augusta,
Speaker 2: what would you have done?
Speaker 11: Oh, I didn't know it's still in there. Uh yeah,
Speaker 11: I would have gone to the mat.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's all I want to hear. That's it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, dust Thank you. Do drive safely, by the way.
Speaker 2: This stay in sports history, Paul.
Speaker 6: Was a good one. Good topic there. The Brooklyn Dodgers
Speaker 6: opened ebittts Field in nineteen thirteen. In nineteen forty five,
Speaker 6: this is a good one. The NFL officials decreed that
Speaker 6: is mandatory that players wear this in all league games
Speaker 6: going forward. What is this? Fill in the blank. Nineteen
Speaker 6: forty five officials said all players must wear what.
Speaker 3: In games, face mask socks.
Speaker 6: Players were not wearing socks.
Speaker 5: Come on, game, it's getting socked sticklers.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: In nineteen sixty five, the Houston Astrodome hosted its first
Speaker 6: ever baseball game.
Speaker 2: And do you know what happened in that game? No,
Speaker 2: I think baseball's first indoor home run was hit. I
Speaker 2: think by Mickey Mantle. I think the first indoor home run,
Speaker 2: not inside the park, but inside the dome was hit
Speaker 2: by Mickey Mantle.
Speaker 3: I believe.
Speaker 2: On the State nineteen eighty one, Fernando made his Dodger
Speaker 2: debut beat the Astros. He won Rookie of the Year
Speaker 2: and Cy Young. It's hard to kind of explain that
Speaker 2: to a whole different generation what Fernando Mania was. I
Speaker 2: remember there were stories on the nightly news, not nightly
Speaker 2: news sports cast. This was nightly news, nonsports.
Speaker 6: And it was about Fernando Mania. Yeah, Pauline, you confirm
Speaker 6: you're right. Mickey Mantle hit the first home run in
Speaker 6: the Houston Astrodome. It was sold just last year for
Speaker 6: a twelve thousand dollars at Baseball.
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought, you went the dome. That's a good deal. Well,
Speaker 3: they brought the dome down so you could have bought.
Speaker 5: It, I guess yeah, Isle of Dome, Yeah, cinder blocks
Speaker 5: or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: I think that's it for this day. Oh, this is
Speaker 2: one of my favorite days. This is nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 2: David Thompson and George Gervin are battling for the scoring title.
Speaker 2: David scores seventy three, but Ice was with San Antonio.
Speaker 2: He scores sixty three, and he wins the scoring title
Speaker 2: twenty seven point two two points per game to twenty
Speaker 2: seven point one five. Yeah, yes, no three pointers back then?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7: Neither of those games were televised either.
Speaker 6: No, but.
Speaker 2: Ice knew what David had done, and he played later
Speaker 2: and then he knew he had to get sixty whatever
Speaker 2: sixty three points to win the scoring title. That happened
Speaker 2: with David Robinson as well. I think he won a
Speaker 2: scoring todd he had he had seventy one. Yes, Marvin,
Speaker 2: what is.
Speaker 7: It feeling like? Because you would know better than I.
Speaker 7: What's that feeling like? You know what I'm gonna go
Speaker 7: off tonight?
Speaker 3: Score thirty uh in the half or a game? Just
Speaker 3: in a game?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I didn't know if you meant like a
Speaker 2: a half well, when you get the green light, nothing better,
Speaker 2: you know, just give me the green light.
Speaker 3: That's all I want.
Speaker 6: An inside joke.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that was I don't know if
Speaker 2: John Legend was talking about the green light the way
Speaker 2: I just wanted to shoot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a shot, yes, yes, Todd.
Speaker 4: When did you realize it wasn't your night? Or do
Speaker 4: you always have to try to shoot your way out
Speaker 4: of it and then find your.
Speaker 2: I always thought it was my night. Yeah, on the court.
Speaker 2: Off the court, it was never my night. I was
Speaker 2: shooting off the cord too, but I wasn't making anything.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you got to You gotta keep going. Your
Speaker 2: team needs you to get some shots up there. That's
Speaker 2: what I kept thinking. All right, find a results of
Speaker 2: the poll question.
Speaker 5: Seaton, you got up there right now, the Denver Nuggets
Speaker 5: are dot dot dot dot. Right now, ninety four percent
Speaker 5: of our audience say they are nuts. Okay, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of fun and then league with the least job security.
Speaker 5: Right now, the NBA has got about fifty one percent
Speaker 5: of that vote.
Speaker 3: Todd, would you learn today I think they're the Denver nuts?
Speaker 7: Gets?
Speaker 5: Based on the poem, Seaton, would you learn I'm rooting
Speaker 5: for Scott Van Pelt this year.
Speaker 3: Let's go, buddy, Marvin.
Speaker 7: You don't want a Lifetime Achievement Award. No Paul svp
Speaker 7: over eight Todd What did I learn?
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