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Speaker 1: Hello, what's up everybody, how you guys doing. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Therapy Gecko Podcast. Thanks for being here. I'm feeling

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Speaker 1: pretty good today. Actually, I am back from Japan and

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Speaker 1: I am chilling and ready to talk to some people

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Speaker 1: on the phone today. As of recording this, it is

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Speaker 1: March eighth, twoenty twenty five. I'm feeling pretty good. It's

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Speaker 1: interesting to still be here. I know that's a weird

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Speaker 1: thing to say, but I think I always thought that

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Speaker 1: once you hit a certain age, you just explode and

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Speaker 1: you become you know, it's hard to like imagine you

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Speaker 1: ever have those things where like you can't even imagine

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Speaker 1: what life is like at a certain time, and then

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Speaker 1: you're there and you're like, oh, I'm still me. I'm

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Speaker 1: still here. I didn't just explode. Life just keeps going.

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Speaker 1: And I think that feeling used to Oh, I'm live

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Speaker 1: on Twitch. Someone on the twitch chats that they turned

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Speaker 1: sixty two last year. How are you feeling? Wooll fourth

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Speaker 1: turning sixty two. I'm curious, But anyway, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: actually feeling pretty good today. I'm ready to take some

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Speaker 1: phone calls. I'm ready to talk to people. I've been

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Speaker 1: doing a lot of gek mail lately because I don't

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Speaker 1: think I was in as great of a position to

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Speaker 1: take phone calls. But now I feel good and I

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Speaker 1: actually feel pretty ready to talk to some people on

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Speaker 1: the phone. So I'm gonna do that right now.

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 3: Hello, oh hello Lyle.

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Speaker 1: Yes is this h Janet?

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Speaker 4: It is yes, indeed, Janet.

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Speaker 1: Well, Janet, I'm calling you back for you sent me

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Speaker 1: a text. But I read an email on one of

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Speaker 1: the mare gek mails from a woman who married her horse.

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Speaker 1: I believe me, and I believe that is you, and

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Speaker 1: so I am.

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Speaker 2: That is me. Did you have a picture?

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Speaker 1: I did see the picture. I did see the picture. So,

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Speaker 1: uh you for people who didn't hear that email or

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Speaker 1: that episode or whatever, and if do you want to

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Speaker 1: just give us some context of you know, what happened?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 2: So I I for my sixtieth birthday, I had a

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Speaker 2: wedding party. So I made a suit for my horse

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Speaker 2: out of a blanket, you know, a horse blanket. I

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Speaker 2: converted it and he had a tie and everything, and

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Speaker 2: I had some socks on his legs and I had

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Speaker 2: a bouquet of carrots and uh, yeah, it was a

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Speaker 2: who It was really fun And.

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Speaker 1: You are there would have been the benefits thus far

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Speaker 1: of marrying your horse.

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Speaker 2: Uh, well, you know, I don't even have the horse anymore.

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Speaker 1: So, oh no, what do you mean you sold the

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Speaker 1: fucking horse? That's Janet. That's so fucked up up things.

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Speaker 1: You got married to a horse and then you sold it?

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Speaker 5: What did you.

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Speaker 2: Well the reasons, I'm taking care of my mom full

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Speaker 2: consuming and the expense very very expensive. So yeah, since

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Speaker 2: I sold my horses, I have money.

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Speaker 1: Now can I ask it? And it's okay if it's

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Speaker 1: a personal question you would like not to answer. I'm kidding.

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Speaker 1: What do you sell a horse for? What's the horlet

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Speaker 2: So I sold him for two thousand dollars. And then

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Speaker 2: I had another horse. I had two horses at one time,

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Speaker 2: and so I sold the other horse for five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: So the other horse was younger and had well, they

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Speaker 2: both had papers, but I just felt like she was

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Speaker 1: What else are you in the horse? The horse you sold?

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Speaker 1: Are you guys divorced? Are you still married? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I don't see him anymore at all. We have no

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Speaker 2: kids together, so well, thank.

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Speaker 3: God for that.

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Speaker 1: What else is going on in life? Janets?

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Speaker 2: Well, I just bought a travel trailer. Cool, so U

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Speaker 2: thirty foot trailer and mom is currently on hospice. So

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Speaker 2: we're looking at months not years, and so I'm looking

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Speaker 2: settle in Pennsylvania. I love the Hershey Harrisburg area in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like Hershey Park.

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Speaker 2: Well do you know penn National Racecourse?

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Speaker 2: Okay, small track in near Harrisburg. It's in Grantville, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: And so I worked there when I was much younger.

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Speaker 2: I did you know galloped racehorses and ponied horses and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I'll be riding exercising.

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Speaker 1: How long have horses been a part of your life?

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Speaker 2: Pretty much since I was seven. I started writing lessons. Cool,

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Speaker 1: Long did do How long did you do that for?

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Speaker 2: I did ten years in small animal practice, and then

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Speaker 1: For for all this time were you where were you located?

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Speaker 2: Michigan, Michigan. So I worked at the University of Michigan

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Speaker 1: And where taking care? Where is your mom at? Where

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Speaker 2: We lived together our in a house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're still still in Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, we like Michigan. But I'm ready

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Speaker 2: to ready to move again.

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Speaker 1: And you know you told me a little bit in

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Speaker 1: want to do You're going to do a podcast where

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Speaker 1: you interview folks about the paranorma.

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Speaker 2: I thought about that. So I have a lot of ideas.

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Speaker 2: I'm sixty seven seventy, maybe you know I'm perfectly capable

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, well, let me ask you this, do

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Speaker 1: Would the podcast need to make money for you to

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a good point. I guess I wouldn't. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Because well, here's the thing, is like, well, so people

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Speaker 1: the listeners can tell from the ads, but like the

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Speaker 1: Apple podcasts and stuff. But I've recorded several of those

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Speaker 1: I'm not tripping out about it, because it's like I

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Speaker 1: So I mean, look, I guess that's I say all

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Speaker 1: you could goddamn very well just take a camera, take,

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Speaker 1: take your I take. You could take your iPhone or whatever.

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Speaker 1: You could do a minimal, cheap, crappy setup, hint record

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Speaker 1: sure you know folks channel. Yeah, Chanel, it doesn't. I

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just keep it simple, make it fun. It's

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Speaker 1: And also another thing is, you know, I don't know you.

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Speaker 2: I did you know?

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. If there's any Internet savvy folks

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Speaker 1: if if, if you know that happens to be a

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Speaker 1: thing in your life, right. But yeah, again, that's that's

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Speaker 1: the thing is like it can be as you don't

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Speaker 1: like when you you know, I I assume that because

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Speaker 2: Well, my daughter introduced me to you like four years ago.

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Speaker 1: Cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And actually you were in Romulus at one time.

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Speaker 2: Does that ring a bell? Romulus, Michigan.

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Speaker 4: Uh hold on, let me it was four years ago.

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Speaker 1: Romulus, Michigan. Rom Yeah, uh am, I hell on? Where

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Speaker 2: No, it's near Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been Detroit a few times. Yeah, I've been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh yeah, yeah you were at this. I'm super

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Speaker 2: close to Romulas. Cool, but I actually had breast cancer

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Speaker 1: Oh this is you Janet?

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Janet.

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Speaker 4: That's good. You're sorry in Japan, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm twenty two, but I got my last quarter

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00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 4: here coming up, so I'm about to graduate, and it's

442
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 4: been freaking me out.

443
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: It's freaking you out about it.

444
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 4: It's just I feel like I'm very reliant on my

445
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: parents still, and it's kind of like leaving college, especially

446
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 4: going into something that's like intense, as like film, trying

447
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 4: to break into that because you've got to be NonStop

448
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 4: and relentless, you know, you gotta be able to take

449
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 4: it on the chin. And sometimes I worry about having

450
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 4: that just thought I've been having. It's like that hunger

451
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 4: almost if that makes sense, like really being hungry for

452
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 4: it and if it's yeah, but it's sometimes I'm sitting

453
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: there and it's I struggle with being productive and doing

454
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 4: things I want to do, and sometimes I'm like, am

455
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: I hungry? That's something that some people just have and

456
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: some people don't or do I have to tap into it?

457
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've wondered that too. I Mean some people are

458
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: just like it's it's interesting sometimes you like see other

459
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: people and you just have this image in your brain

460
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: that like something in their fucking like brain chemistry allows

461
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: them to like flawlessly, with zero resistance do things, and

462
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: you get a little bit jealous. You're like, well, fucking

463
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: I wish that my brain worked that way, and I don't.

464
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: It's interesting because I do actually believe that some people

465
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: are just wired fucking differently than other people. But with

466
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: with the stuff that you're telling me, now that I've like,

467
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm from a place of like, oh, I've run the

468
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: gamut of like, uh, you know, having a following and

469
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: all that stuff is like, well do you do do

470
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 1: you stand up or do you do anything? Like in person?

471
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 4: I don't do anything in person, which I've been really

472
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 4: I need to get my uh what do they call it?

473
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 4: The five minute stand up? There was it? Quote? Again,

474
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I've been like wanting to get

475
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 4: into it, you know, but I gotta like sit down

476
00:28:59,240 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 4: and write an act.

477
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: Are you are you gonna stay in Denver? Like is

478
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: that where you grew up?

479
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 4: I I grew up in Virginia. Okay, Yeah, I came

480
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 4: out to Denver for school and just kind of shows

481
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 4: film out here after the fact. But yeah, Denver has

482
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 4: a pretty good stand up scene.

483
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you. Are you planning to hang out in Denver?

484
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: Are you gonna try to go to like l A.

485
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: Are you gonna go back to Virginia? Are you just

486
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: kind of gonna go wherever you can find a job?

487
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

488
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 4: See that that's another thing. This is why I like

489
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 4: the whole graduating costs. It's like freaking me out because

490
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 4: I got nothing planned out. You know, I'm trying to

491
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 4: think like I can if like I am uploading these

492
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: YouTube videos and I have my like group of friends

493
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: out here who help me out, I'd stay here and

494
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 4: keep doing that and work a job.

495
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: Do you friends your friends out there in Denver?

496
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

497
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 4: I got lots of good friends right here.

498
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: And and do you make videos with them?

499
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: You know, so I have a lot. I have a

501
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: lot of thoughts about your situation. Actually, I have a

502
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: lot of thoughts.

503
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 4: I'd love to hear them.

504
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: What I would say is that, first of all, the

505
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: fact that you're like a young guy and you have

506
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: friends that want to make videos with you, please please understand,

507
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: please understand this that having a following is great and all,

508
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: but having a being like a young guy and having

509
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: a group of like other young folks and you're together

510
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: making videos and you're having fun whatever you do through

511
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: your attempts at trying to be viral and trying to

512
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: have a following. Still, you know, there's a lot of like,

513
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: you know, we could sit here and do business class

514
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: and I could say things like, you know, you have

515
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: to kind of make content in the context of short

516
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: short form video, and the way that they kind of

517
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: teach you to make stuff in film school is completely

518
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: antithetical to how things work in the real world. And

519
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: those are all things you should be thinking about and whatever,

520
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: and you should still be striving to have a following.

521
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: But just please the fact that you've got a good

522
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: group of friends and you guys are making videos together

523
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: and you're talking about jokes and you're laughing, and maybe

524
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: you get into the stand up scene in Denver or

525
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: the sketch scene in Denver, and you work, you're fucking

526
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: whatever thing you need to do to make money during

527
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: the day, and you're hanging out with your friends making

528
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: stuff at night, revel in how much fucking fun that is.

529
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: You know, don't be too don't be too like if

530
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: you get don't be too hung up on like, oh,

531
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: I gotta get out of my day job, like, you know,

532
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: if you got to fucking go wait tables or be

533
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: a barista or whatever and live in a thing with

534
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: like five other dudes. You know, just at least for

535
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: right now, just just revel and how fucking fun that is.

536
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: Like you, you just are in such a position to

537
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: just have so much fun, you know, regardless of how

538
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: many people like are seeing the shit and you it's

539
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: still it's good to I think, be ambitious and to

540
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, that didn't work. Maybe we try it

541
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: like this, and maybe you scroll on TikTok one night

542
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, this person's doing it like that.

543
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll try something like that, like just if anything.

544
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: But the thing I want you to know is like

545
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: revel in the joy of the process of where your

546
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: life is at right now, because from where I sit,

547
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: your life seems really cool and fun, you know, to

548
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: have again to confidence and have a group of friends

549
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: that want to make this videos with you, and to

550
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: be in a place like Denver where it's like, you know,

551
00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: it's not as cut throat and fucking like you know,

552
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: brutally expensive and vast and expansive as as you know

553
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: in La or in New York, or whatever, But there's

554
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: still so many I don't know exactly what the comedy

555
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: scene is, like their shout out to what is it?

556
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: The comedy comedy work, Shout out comedy work. I love

557
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: the comedy Works.

558
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 4: You got the comedy just going there tonight?

559
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: Oh who you seeing Josh Oh cool cool, shout out

560
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: the Comedy Works. That's one of my favorite comedy clubs

561
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: in the country. It's a great place. But like, dude,

562
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: go do the open mic at the comedy works. Go

563
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: explore the old scene. Go start a sketch show at

564
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: some fucking bar, Go do right your five minutes and

565
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: get into the thing, and your friends go with you.

566
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, Just dude, Like you know, here's

567
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: the thing being having a following, and like you know,

568
00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: it's it's, it's it's good, it's it's it's a good

569
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: thing to strive for. But just the where you are

570
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: right now is just so fun and you should just

571
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: like enjoy the fun of it and enjoy the process

572
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 1: of it. Because here's the thing. If you're not enjoying

573
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: the process of it, right, it's like it's not gonna

574
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: change suddenly once you have twenty four thousand TikTok followers

575
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: or whatever the fuck. So, I don't know, I'm excited

576
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: about your life. I think it's you know, if that

577
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: if that's helpful, if that makes you feel better in

578
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. You know, I think you're

579
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: entering actually a very fun and exciting time, you know,

580
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: where you're in a community and you're in this thing

581
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: with your friends. I think it's cool. So that's that's

582
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: my I don't know if that's advice, that's just my

583
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: that's my perspective on your situation.

584
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 4: No, that's I mean, that's really just they you know,

585
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 4: if I if I spend my time going after the following,

586
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 4: because that's just kind of a byproduct, like you said,

587
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 4: just spending time with your friend, you know, doing doing

588
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 4: like something you love so much. And I'm just like recently,

589
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 4: I'm just so strung tight, you know, really anxious about

590
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 4: everything going on, when I could just really kind of

591
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 4: and enjoy what I'm doing because I didn't really think

592
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 4: about it, like you said, Because even if I have

593
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 4: to wait tables or whatever, I get to like, you know,

594
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 4: twenty two, I'm young, and I get to go out

595
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 4: there and do all that stuff, and it's just yeah,

596
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 4: it's just figuring that out without like I don't know,

597
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 4: I say, the anxiety of it all just kind of

598
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 4: gets to me and it kind of kind of it

599
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 4: can take away from that.

600
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: Lot is the is the anxiety? Is the anxiety about?

601
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's about a lot of things,

602
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: but like if you had to pick it apart, you know,

603
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 1: what's it about?

604
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean definitely recently it's been what the hell

605
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 4: am I doing after college?

606
00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: Huh?

607
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 4: Because I mean there's just god, there's just so much.

608
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 4: I've been going back and forth on.

609
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, what are the options?

610
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean right now, I mean I'm graduating with

611
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 4: just a film degree, and I know how you feel

612
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 4: about film degrees, and I'm like, I'm trying to figure

613
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: out if I go back to school and get a

614
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 4: second degree for a.

615
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: Second and get a second degree for what?

616
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: Right Well, I was thinking like going back to marketing

617
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 4: and then I could do something with like commercials or

618
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 4: production commercials stuff like that, but then like exactly for what?

619
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 4: And then it's just kind of like a is it

620
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: a split focus thing if I go back and get

621
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 4: a second degree, or should I just like graduate with

622
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 4: my film degree? And run with it, you know, yeah.

623
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: I mean are you are you no shame in it?

624
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: By the way, but are your parents helping out or

625
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: would you go into more debt?

626
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: No, my parents are helping me.

627
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: All right, all right, I mean another I'm not I'm

628
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: personally not a fan of like getting another degree, especially

629
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: if it's like if you want to go I mean look, yeah, like,

630
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: well are you thinking like you're going to go like

631
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: be a PA or something?

632
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: Uh goodness. So, I mean I I've talked to people

633
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 4: in the industry and because I like directing and writing

634
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 4: my sketches, and then they're always like, if if you

635
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 4: go in and be a PA, you're gonna be stuck

636
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 4: in the kind of the crew side of things. So

637
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 4: like they're saying, go work at an agency. Was there

638
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 4: a suggestion, what kind of interesting like an acting agency?

639
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's not a horrible idea.

640
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're like, the only thing you need is

641
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 4: is like grassroots connections, so you go work at one

642
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 4: of those. And she was like, don't go to grad school,

643
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 4: go work here that you'll learn everything you need to know.

644
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I also don't. I also don't love the

645
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: idea of a second degree.

646
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, why do you say that?

647
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm curious, well, cause like what do you? What do you?

648
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: I guess I just don't nothing you've said that you

649
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: aspire to do. Requires If you told me that you

650
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: wanted to do biology research, I'd be like, yeah, you

651
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: need a second degree. Or if you told me you

652
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: wanted to be a lawyer, I'd be like, yeah, you

653
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,479
Speaker 1: need a second degree. But it being like you've said

654
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: nothing where that makes me feel like you need to

655
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: go get a second degree.

656
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think I'm almost like preemptively planning my failure

657
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 4: if that makes sense. Oh sure, I'm kind of like

658
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 4: making a fall black plan. I was even thinking of

659
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 4: going back again, like like a teacher certificate, so I

660
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 4: could do that.

661
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 1: While I'm like, yeah, but you could. You can always

662
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: do that later, you know. I don't know if I'm again,

663
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: if I'm, if I'm you, I'm I'm like, uh okay,

664
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: I'll do whatever thing to make money. And if it's

665
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: film adjacent, then great. PA work sucks ass though, And

666
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: it's not gonna if you because if you're if you're

667
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: a PA, then you're gonna be like, by the way,

668
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: just for the listeners, I know, that, uh, this conversation

669
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: might be alienating to ninety nine percent of people, but

670
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: rarely do I feel it's it's f funny because sometimes

671
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: people will ask me for advice on stuff and I'll

672
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: be like, I don't know what the fuck to say,

673
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: but this, being twenty two and graduating from film school,

674
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm like this, I feel actually genuinely very primed to

675
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: give advice about this, So I'm that's why this conversation

676
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: has lasted so long. But anyway, Uh, you know, yeah, Pa,

677
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: work would suck because you don't want to be in

678
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: some job that's like, you don't want to be in

679
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: some job that's like eighty fucking hours a week, you

680
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, yeah, do some shit that's

681
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: like if it's industry adjacent, then great, but if it's

682
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: just some fucking bullshit nine to five marketing job in Denver,

683
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: and like at night you can go out and do

684
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: stand up and make sketches with your friends. Like again,

685
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: I think that you can have a fun, cool life.

686
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: You can have a fun, cool early twenties doing that.

687
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: I really do think that's it's it's fun to I

688
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: don't know. Again, I don't know exactly what's going on

689
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: in the Denver scene. But there's something going on, and

690
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: you know, you can build locally by again having sketch showcases,

691
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: and if you have a bunch of friends there, that's great.

692
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, by the way, like when you're

693
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: saying like because you said to me, you were like, oh,

694
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: I really got something, you know what I mean. The

695
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 1: potential of being able to make a living or the

696
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: fleshing out of the thing that you feel like you've

697
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: got is not going to happen in your day job.

698
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen on the internet, and it's gonna happen

699
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: when you're hanging out with your friends talking about comedy

700
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: and making jokes and doing things in the physical Denver scene.

701
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,479
Speaker 1: So I don't I really just wouldn't stress out about

702
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: your day job that much, you know, I mean, I

703
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't stress out about any of this stuff that much

704
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: because again I would just be reveling in the fun

705
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: of it, because it is such a it is a

706
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: joyous thing I think to be a part to have

707
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: a community of friends and people who you can work

708
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: on this kind of stuff with. So that's what that's

709
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: That's okay, that's the baseline. I would go at this

710
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: from it's like, I'm having fun making stuff with my friends,

711
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: and I'm making enough money that I can live on

712
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: my own without my parents' help. And then on top

713
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: of that, and then on top of that, you can

714
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: go like what's best for the algorithm or you know,

715
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck. But so that's that's that's all I

716
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: really have to say.

717
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, that makes perfect sense. And

718
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 4: right now I'm trying to figure out how to just

719
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 4: relax a little bit, you know, yeah, yeah that should

720
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 4: go well. But yeah, you you inspired partly. I think

721
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 4: you subconsciously inspired the sketch I just uploaded. It's a

722
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 4: guy in a frog costume. It looks a lot like

723
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 4: the geck across the Magic frog Man.

724
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: The Magic frog Man.

725
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 4: I love it, The Magic Man.

726
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I feel I feel

727
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: like a magic frog Man every day. That's not even

728
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: really are what's your name again? Pierce? Yeah, Pierce, Pierce,

729
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: great talking to you, Piers. I'm again if it makes

730
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: I hope it makes you feel better. I hope it

731
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: makes you feel better too that I'm sitting here and

732
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this guy sounds like he's in a

733
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: fun adventure.

734
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. I mean also makes me feel better seeing

735
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 4: someone as like creative as you making it. You know

736
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 4: that always helps.

737
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: Well, thanks man, I appreciate your kind words. Is there

738
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: anything else you want to say to the people of

739
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: the computer before we go?

740
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 4: Yeah? Would you be cool with me shouting out my

741
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 4: YouTube channel? Yeah?

742
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead.

743
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a dumpster champagne. One word.

744
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: Hold let me, I'm gonna audit. You hold on dumpster champagne, Yeah,

745
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: dumpster sham pain? How fuck do you spell champagne? Hold on?

746
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 4: I know, right?

747
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: How the fuck? Hold on? Dump dumpster?

748
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 4: Oh?

749
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: Campaign a right? Dumpster said? How do you fucking spell

750
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: this again?

751
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 4: C h A MP? Oh my god? Wait yeah, oh wait,

752
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 4: I got it, I got it, got it?

753
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: Okay the magic frog man. Okay, here you go. This

754
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: is you. You look? Why what is this? A? Is

755
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: this a mug shot?

756
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 4: Okay? So funny, funny story. I was trying to get

757
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 4: into Uh there's like a school trip to India and

758
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 4: I had to get a visa, but I didn't have

759
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 4: like a passport photo. So I showed up like like

760
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 4: ten minutes late to my passport photo picture. They maybe

761
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 4: put on that like the purple shirt, and then they

762
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 4: took that picture and I wasn't allowed into India. Actually,

763
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 4: they wouldn't let me in.

764
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: Oh ship, do you have to wait? Do you the way? Wait?

765
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: Do you show up at the airport and they sent

766
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: you back?

767
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 4: No. I was trying to apply for a visa. I

768
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: literally went to the embassy in DC and they denied

769
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 4: me like four times.

770
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: Well they don't want fuck them, fuck them all. I

771
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: don't just never mind. All right, man, have a good

772
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: rest of the night. Pre al right.

773
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 4: I love you, Ba, you.

774
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: Know, like I said, I know I alienated a lot

775
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: of I know that was a I know that was

776
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: an inside baseball kind of a call. But you know again,

777
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: it's like that's a bit of the perspective I think

778
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: I've gained over the years of doing this, and because

779
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: I spent some time in like a local comedy scene

780
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 1: when I was in college and whatnot. Is like it's

781
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: just fun. Like I think you forget that you always

782
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: when you're like doing things and you're kind of trying

783
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: to make a living doing it or trying to make

784
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: a name for yourself or a following or whatever, you

785
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: kind of forget that, Like oh this is supposed to

786
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: be fun, you know, but good luck, Pierce. Hey for real, Hey, Hey, Hey,

787
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: what's uh? What's that? What's your name?

788
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 5: My name is a little bit hard to pronounce, but

789
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 5: I hope you try your best.

790
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 1: It's moaz moiz mois what's up? Where are you calling from?

791
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 5: I'm from Germany. Actually, well I was born and raised

792
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 5: in Syria, but I've been living here for the good

793
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 5: part of nine months. So nine months, nine years I meant, sorry,

794
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 5: so yeah, yeah.

795
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 1: Okay, nine years from Syria. I've been living in Germany

796
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: for nine years.

797
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, Yeah.

798
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: Cool Man's what's happening with you?

799
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to be completely real with you. It's

800
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 5: around eleven pm right now, and I was feeling incredibly

801
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 5: lonely and a little bit depressed, and I got a

802
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 5: notification that your stream started, and yeah, I've been listening

803
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 5: to your show for the past few years now three years,

804
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 5: I guess, since the pandemic cool or actually, yeah, the

805
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 5: pandemic is now five years ago. Yeah, a long time listener,

806
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 5: first time caller to guess. Definitely a big sound of

807
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 5: the show man to guess.

808
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Great to hear from you. What's as

809
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: your Uh yeah, I'm familiar with eleven PM loneliness depression

810
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: for sure. What's uh? I mean, well, it's you know

811
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: what's funny is I've been thinking a lot, Like I

812
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: was about to ask what was on your mind? And

813
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: then I was kind of like, you know what's funny

814
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: is I'm really I've talked about this on the podcast before,

815
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: probably recently, but like I'm really torn between like it

816
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: is the cure for depression or whatever? Is it like

817
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: talking through your problems or is it distracting yourself from

818
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: your problems? And you know, I don't know, I haven't

819
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: come to an internal consensus on that, but well let

820
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: me ask you are you feeling? Are you feeling a

821
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: talk through or a distraction?

822
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 5: I'm actually more on team distraction, so to be honest

823
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 5: with you, yeah, because you know, in the last few years,

824
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 5: whenever I listened to your podcast, kind of an afterthought

825
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 5: that I have is what would I want to talk

826
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 5: to you about whenever I eventually make it, And so

827
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 5: what I always thought about was telling you about, you know,

828
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 5: the last nine years of my life and what I've

829
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 5: done with them since I've came to Germany. If you

830
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 5: would be interested in hearing that. I would be more

831
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 5: you know than glad to tell you all.

832
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: About it you're here or hit me.

833
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 5: So, like I said, I was born and raised in Syria,

834
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 5: and we came around here twenty sixteen with my family,

835
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 5: so we're war refugees basically, and since then a lot

836
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 5: has happened. I mean, I was seventeen years old at

837
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 5: the time. I didn't speak any German or anything like that.

838
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 5: But my parents were the typical immigrant parents, so you know,

839
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 5: they wanted us to succeed as fast as we could

840
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 5: and as hard as we could sort of say. And

841
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 5: so I went directly to a high school at the

842
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 5: time and managed to get my diploma within the normal

843
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 5: range three years. And after that there were way too

844
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 5: many options open for me, so to say. And for

845
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 5: the longest time, actually, I was really interested in video games,

846
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 5: you know, playing video games and how they're made and

847
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 5: all that, and so I was definitely interested in studying,

848
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 5: you know, game development. However, in Germany, and I guess

849
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 5: all over the world most likely, that is not something

850
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 5: offered in public universities or public colleges community colleges as

851
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 5: they call them in the US. I guess, and so

852
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 5: it was a privilege that I didn't have at the time,

853
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 5: and so I decided to study computer science instead, and

854
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 5: just last year I managed to finish my bachelor's degree.

855
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 5: And yeah, I have to say, man, it's been an

856
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 5: insane journey. A lot has happened. Last year in particular,

857
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 5: has been you know, an incredible milestone. I managed to

858
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 5: finally get my German citizenship, I landed my very first

859
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 5: you know, big corporate job, like I said, graduated UNI

860
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 5: and everything. And I guess this year is starting off

861
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 5: a little bit slower because there's not much going on anymore,

862
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 5: and there's no goal to chase, if you know what

863
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 5: I mean. And so I guess all this emptiness is

864
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 5: kind of coming from that. Like ever since we came

865
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 5: to this kind of new country, there's always been something

866
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 5: to chase and something to run after. But this year,

867
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 5: in particular, there's not been anything to motivate me to

868
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 5: you know, do more or like there's no new milestone

869
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 5: to catch up to.

870
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?

871
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: It makes eight thousand sense. But why and forgive me

872
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: if you explained this already, but why is it that

873
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: this year specifically, there's nothing to go after.

874
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 5: Well, you know, ever since we were here, I had

875
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 5: either school or college, and there was always something for

876
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 5: me to work towards, whether that's you know, finishing school

877
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 5: or finishing college. But ever since I landed my job,

878
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 5: I basically try to live for the weekend, and whenever

879
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 5: I am at the weekend, there's kind of this dread of, oh,

880
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 5: the week is about to start again, and I'm losing

881
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 5: time and I'm not doing another and all of that.

882
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 5: Even though please don't get me wrong, I love my job.

883
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 5: My job is, you know, everything that I've ever dreamed

884
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 5: of and more. But it's still, you know, forty hours

885
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 5: a week. You still spend more time at work than

886
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 5: with your friends or family, And so I feel like

887
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 5: life is passing me by a little bit. I guess, yeah,

888
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 5: I don't know. Some it's like that in that realm,

889
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 5: more or less, we're around the same age. By the way,

890
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 5: I think, I'm like, I don't think i'm twenty six.

891
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 5: I think you're twenty seven. I'm not sure, yeah, yeah,

892
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 5: but yeah, m m.

893
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: Well, so you say that life is passing you by

894
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: and that you don't have any like things to go after,

895
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: and by the way, I'm having like a similar thing.

896
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: Not to push it back to me, but like you know,

897
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm having a bit of a similar thing going on.

898
00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm curious when you say that, like, don't you get

899
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: to kind of decide for yourself if you have any

900
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: things you want to push towards and in that sense,

901
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: like do you not have any other goals or any

902
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: other like things that you want to do.

903
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 4: Now that's a good question.

904
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 5: I mean I try to think about that around Christmas time,

905
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 5: kind of setting my New Year's resolutions or goals for

906
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 5: the coming year, and I was only able to think

907
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 5: of really long term stuff like, for example, I'm single

908
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 5: at a time being, and so I was trying to

909
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 5: maybe get back into the dating world or maybe try

910
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 5: out new hobbies and all of that. And then I

911
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 5: was thinking about stuff even more long term, like eventually

912
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 5: buying a house or some sort of property. But that's

913
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 5: not something you know, realistic in the next few years.

914
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 5: But I have to some extent try to stick to

915
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 5: those goals, you know, trying out new stuff of new hobbies,

916
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 5: for example, magic the gathering. Actually, even though I'm not

917
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 5: that big of a of a card game guy, I

918
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 5: want I went to a local tournament recently, and it

919
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 5: was it was pretty fun, even though a little bit

920
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 5: scary and a little bit intimidating. But uh yeah, but

921
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 5: you know, like you said, at the end of the day,

922
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 5: it's like eleven pm, I'm sitting here and talking to

923
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 5: a guy with a on in a get go suit

924
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 5: on the internet.

925
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: It's true. It's true. It's true.

926
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 4: You know.

927
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've been thinking about this for myself a lot

928
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: of like how do I because I have a weird

929
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 1: obsession with like I you know, I kind of snapped

930
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: recently and was thinking about how short life is, and

931
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: like I want to be doing something every day to

932
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: make it so that uh my, I was like, how

933
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 1: am I gonna make make it so that at twenty seven,

934
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: like when I'm thirty, like my life feels like it's

935
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: progressing forward, you know, and then like what does that

936
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: look like? Does that look like some radical action or

937
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: does that look like doing some shit for an hour

938
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: a day?

939
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 4: You know?

940
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: And so I don't know. I guess it's like you, yeah,

941
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: these long term goals, it's like how do you break

942
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: them up into like some shit that you can do

943
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: every day or every week or you know, like how

944
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: do you make shit manageable, right, and like, what do

945
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: you want yourself to look like in you know, X

946
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: amount of years? You know, do you want to learn

947
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: French or whatever? The fuck? And like yeah, how do you?

948
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 5: Oh god know, yeah.

949
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: Like how do you how do you progress? How do

950
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: you move life forward? It's an interesting question. It's a

951
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: conundrum I'm dealing with myself, and I don't know. I

952
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I'm just trying to like

953
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: fucking pick something and do it and keep it going.

954
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 5: No, you don't have to worry about that, man, I mean,

955
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 5: I guess it's at least comforting to know we're all

956
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 5: in the same boat.

957
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: No, yeah, of course you can't. Yeah, you can never

958
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: get out of it. You can never escape. I thought

959
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: I could rest on my laurels for a little bit,

960
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: because that's what happened is I was like, Okay, I was,

961
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: I did this successful thing, and I can just rest

962
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: on that. And there is a lot of I'm not

963
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: I would be lying if I said there was zero

964
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: comfort in that. But I also I also I was

965
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: talking to my friends the other day. No, it was

966
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: like with my friend last night, and I was like, man,

967
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to be like, you know, thirty eight

968
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: years old, ten years from now and being like, you know,

969
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: I used to be the therapy gecko. You know what

970
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: I mean. I gotta like keep figuring out shit to do.

971
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: You know, your life never it never lets up funny,

972
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: you know, I mean even even sorry, like.

973
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 5: A forty year old gecko, a fourty year old geck

974
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 5: is pretty funny, you have to admit.

975
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean who who knows? But I mean even

976
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: like our our caller from earlier, uh Janet, I mean

977
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: she's sixty and she's was we were talking and she

978
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I have plans and I have ideas

979
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: and I have you know, things I want to do,

980
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, it never ends. But that's

981
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: like that's good, right because once you you don't want

982
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,439
Speaker 1: to be done, that's when you're just gonna wither if

983
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: that happens. I don't know if anything I've been saying

984
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: is relevant to any to what you were talking about.

985
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 4: But.

986
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 5: No, no, man, I told guess what you mean. This

987
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 5: actually kind of reminds me of you know, the sissifs meme,

988
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 5: the guy that's pushing the rock up the hill. Yeah,

989
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 5: I guess we're all kind of in that motion, and

990
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 5: you have to you have to imagine SIPs enjoying his

991
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 5: his his journey.

992
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 4: You know.

993
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 5: It's not about the goal, it's about enjoying every day,

994
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 5: enjoying pushing up that boulder.

995
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

996
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a way. It's a weird balancing act, right,

997
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: because you want to just enjoy fucking life as it is.

998
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: You want to be able to go see a movie

999
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: without hating yourself, but you also wanna, you know, keep

1000
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: moving things forward. And everyone's brain is wired so differently,

1001
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: Like some people just genuinely don't Some people genuinely are

1002
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: very happy to just like not do anything and that's great.

1003
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: And other people are wired in this weird way where

1004
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: they're like, I have you know, I have to do

1005
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: shit or else I will go insane. And it is

1006
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: probably something to be said about understanding your own wiring

1007
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: and making plays towards it. Man, it's so fun how

1008
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: it's so funny how I think about these things when

1009
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm like talking about them to other people on my podcast,

1010
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: versus when I am alone and depressed at eleven pm

1011
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: on Reddit looking for answers of some kind. You know,

1012
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to watch less motivational content.

1013
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 3: You know.

1014
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've I've found myself recently looking I'm like

1015
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: looking for answers, whether it's like on the Internet or

1016
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: from other people or whatever. And part of me throws

1017
00:59:55,440 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: up my fucking hands after. I like after, because supid Instagram. Right,

1018
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: you look at one motivational thing and then it's and

1019
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, now like it's everything. You

1020
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: know that it just keeps showing you and showing you,

1021
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm like, the answer, I'm like, this tweet

1022
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: is not going to have the answer.

1023
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 4: You know.

1024
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: The answer is first of all, there might just not

1025
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: be an answer A and you have to accept that.

1026
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: And then second of all, the answer is going to

1027
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: be within my own stupid balls. So I got to

1028
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: look there and not on Reddit.

1029
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 5: I guess, well, will you will you let me know

1030
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 5: if you find something in there.

1031
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,919
Speaker 1: I will let you know if I find something that's

1032
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: helpful in my balls for you.

1033
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 5: Well, I actually wanted to say when you were on

1034
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 5: your on your Instagram thing. I love the hope core

1035
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 5: videos on TikTok. You know, the slide shows. Those always

1036
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 5: it for me.

1037
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 4: Sometimes they're stupid.

1038
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 5: Sometimes there's just full of dark soul memes, but you know,

1039
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 5: they hit the spot most of the time.

1040
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I like those too. I like those two.

1041
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: I think I'm just I'm at a point now where

1042
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm just fed up with like, you know, at what

1043
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: point do I am? I? Like, you know, I trust

1044
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: myself enough that I don't need it. But maybe that's

1045
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: not true. Maybe that's bad. Actually, maybe it's good to

1046
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: be constantly trying to learn from other people and other things.

1047
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: And you know, I mean that's one of the fun

1048
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: things about doing this podcast is uh, I'm constantly getting

1049
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: to like learn from other people, and then I get

1050
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: to share that with other people too, so you know,

1051
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: it's cool. Yeah, let me think what enoy you.

1052
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 5: Know, as a watcher and a listener for a long time.

1053
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 4: Sorry, no far, you go ahead, I was gonna say anything, Okay, I.

1054
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 5: Was gonna say I was gonna that as a long

1055
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 5: time listener.

1056
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, for the past few years.

1057
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 5: It's actually also very clear that about actually very clear

1058
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 5: how much you're learning about yourself in the in the

1059
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 5: whole process. You seem to, you know, kind of more

1060
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 5: and more share stuff about yourself and it's kind of

1061
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 5: you know, it makes the whole thing a little bit

1062
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 5: more authentic. You know, I know you're this is awn

1063
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 5: entertainment thing or whatever, but it still, you know, gives

1064
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 5: off a vibe of authenticity, which I think most listeners

1065
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 5: connect very well to.

1066
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 4: And I think.

1067
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 5: That's a part of why the show is so successful,

1068
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 5: whether it's you know, the live shows or the streams

1069
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 5: or the podcast itself. So, you know, kudos to that

1070
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 5: had thought.

1071
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: Thanks man, Thanks man. I was gonna ask you where

1072
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: in Germany are you?

1073
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 5: Oh, I am in Lower Saxony. I wouldn't want to,

1074
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 5: you know, say that exact city, but I'm on Lower Saxony. Actually.

1075
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 5: I bought tickets to see both of your show in

1076
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 5: Amsterdam and Berlin last year, and I was sick for

1077
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 5: both days. Around next year again or I don't know

1078
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 5: what I would do.

1079
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll try. I'll try to come around. I'll try

1080
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: to come around. Yeah if I once, I gotta I

1081
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: gotta kind of build up some new act or some ship.

1082
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: But I'll try to come around. I always have a

1083
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: good time in Amsterdam and Berlin. Beautiful places, beautiful places.

1084
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: Huh what's your name again? I know you said, it's

1085
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: hard to pronounce.

1086
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's Moas, but worries people call me mo also,

1087
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 5: so that would be fun Moasas.

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Speaker 1: It's been lovely talking to you. It's been lovely talking

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Speaker 1: to you, man. Is there anything else that you want

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01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: to share with the people of the computer before we

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Speaker 1: scadadle on out of here?

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Speaker 5: Keep grinding, keep hoping, and take care of your bets.

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01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 5: And I really hope I end up on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this will be. This will be. This will

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01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: be in the podcast. This will be in the podcast. Great, mo,

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Speaker 1: take care, I have a go on, man, Bye bye bye.

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Speaker 1: I liked that guy. That was a lovely, lovely guy.

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hi, what's your name?

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Speaker 3: Miranda?

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Speaker 1: Miranda? What's up? Miranda?

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Speaker 3: Right now? Walking on some railroad tracks?

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Speaker 1: Okay? You you make? Are you doing like a like

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Speaker 1: a Tumblr thing?

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Speaker 3: I guess it could be, but no, not really, I

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01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 3: guess you know, Ashley, this is crazy. We started. I started.

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01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 3: I took like a shroom gummy thing like about three

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01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 3: hours ago m hm, and then walked to a science

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01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 3: museum with for kids, went in there and now walking

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Speaker 3: back on railroad tracks?

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Speaker 1: Are you are you tripping?

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Speaker 3: I was more but not not too much. Now, I

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01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 3: kind of just feel like silly.

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01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: You kind of just feel like silly. That's good. That's good. Right,

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01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: So you're you're in like a come down a little bit.

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01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but not in a bad way. I've had like

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01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 3: bad comdowns. This one's kind of just like it's freezing

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01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 3: cold out and I want to not be outside anymore.

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Speaker 3: But it's like tolerable because it's just silly.

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Speaker 4: M M.

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Speaker 1: Well let me, I mean, it's a what what is

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: it is? It's okay, it's completely okay if if not anything.

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Speaker 1: But did you have something particular you wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: about today?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 3: Dude, not really. I was just calling and calling and calling.

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01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: What is it that is? Well, let's do this. What's

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Speaker 1: your life like, Miranda, what's going on in your in

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01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: your universe?

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Speaker 3: Uh? I don't really know. I go to work and

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01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 3: I also don't go to work sometimes. And I like

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01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 3: to ski sometimes, and I like to go outside sometimes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but also I like to go inside.

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01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but where.

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Speaker 3: Are you are you?

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Speaker 1: Where are you are you?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 1: Walking through snow? I we're hearing a lot of snow crunches.

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01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the that's the snow yep. Nice, it's

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01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 3: like it was. It was I don't know where you are.

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01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 3: You felt this, but it was like fifty degrees for

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01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 3: like a couple of days, and it was just a

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01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 3: nice sneak peak to spring and summer. And so I've

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01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 3: been thinking, like I need to go outside, like it's

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01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 3: not as cold anymore, and then right now it's not

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01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 3: working out for me. There's no more sneak peak.

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01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: Well, what's your plan for the rest of the day

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01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: now that you've already uh done so much.

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Speaker 3: Well, my boyfriend's like walking so far behind me. I

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01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 3: keep turning around and singing.

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01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, cool, this is cool. I thought you were alone,

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01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 1: which would be fine, but it's nice to have something

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01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: with you.

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01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 3: No, I'm pretty much alone. He's like twenty five feet

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Speaker 3: behind me. But I don't know. Today's like a weird

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01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 3: day because I haven't remembered. It's kind of nice, but

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01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 3: I feel like regularly I'm like super stressed out about

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01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 3: absolutely everything. But today's a nice day to forget about

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Speaker 3: life and just walk.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I won't. I want to ask you what's stressing

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Speaker 1: you out? If we can just walk? How's your boyfriend?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good. I think he looks good, he looks happy,

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01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 3: he's I think he's also he was never surfing his

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01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 3: head as like I actually in the beginning of this,

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01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 3: we like parked at a trail head, like we were

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Speaker 3: walking on snow like the whole time. We parked at

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Speaker 3: a trail head and there was like a severed dear

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01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 3: leg just like hanging out there. No body, just like

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01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 3: the leg, and I had like just started feeling it,

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01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 3: and so I was like, what's the fuck, Like what

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01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 3: is going on? And then we started walking on the

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01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 3: trail and I looked back and my boyfriend would pick

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01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 3: up the He's like chasing me with it.

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01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 1: Oh god, he picked up the severed deer leg. Dude.

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01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, put that shit down.

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01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: What a fucking psychopath.

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01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. It was kind of like I don't know, it

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01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 3: must have been there. I don't know how long it

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01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 3: was there for, but it was like dry. It wasn't

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01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 3: like bloody. It was like it was like bone.

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01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,799
Speaker 1: Does he still have it? Does he? Well? It's funny

1182
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: because I mean I know what it's like to be

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01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: walking around and pick up a stick, right and be like, oh,

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01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 1: I'm cool now I have a stick. But I don't

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01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: know if i'd do that with a deer leg.

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01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, I wasn't, dude. I was surprised it

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01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 3: was in his hand. That's actually insane, and it was

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01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 3: freaking out so I started running. But it's like, dude,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. You never see just like a severed

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Speaker 3: animal leg.

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01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 1: You don't. And that's probably a good thing.

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01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because you never see how the world really

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01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 3: works outside of society, Like you just like having to

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01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 3: kill for your food.

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Speaker 1: You never see how the world really works outside of society. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like this this deer leg really gave you

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01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: made you do some kind of existential questioning.

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01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I've never had to kill for my food,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: No, you just make other people do it for you.

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01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: It's a great American way. I mean, it's a life way.

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01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 3: But we'll think about it and they become vegetarian, Miranda.

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01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

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01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:55,520
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go.

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01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 3: Go on a walk?

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01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: More?

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01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 3: Go on more walks?

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01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: I like that. I'll sign off on that.

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01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 3: All right, all right, take care of yeah you too?

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01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: By walking is good. I will sign off on that.

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01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: Do I have anything else to say? About walking. Uh,

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01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: it makes sense. It's probably my favorite thing to do

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01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 1: is to walk around. Okay, that's all I have to

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01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: say about walking. This has been a lovely episode. This

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01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: has been really fun. Thank you guys all for listening.

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01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: I am a gecko and uh yeah, I know, I

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01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: know the past couple episodes have been me going insane slowly.

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01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: But it's such a weird thing with this podcast, man,

1219
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: like I'll have and this has been going on since

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01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: it started. And maybe this perspective is helpful to people,

1221
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: maybe they can apply it to something going on in

1222
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,799
Speaker 1: their own life. But it's it's so weird because I'll

1223
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: have like and again this has been going on all

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01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: five years that I've been doing this show. Is I'll

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01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: have like a month where I'm recording this thing and

1226
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I've fucking this is beyond me and

1227
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 1: I can't I like this feeling of like I don't

1228
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: know if I can be the like if I can

1229
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 1: like show up to this, you know what I mean.

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01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: And then I'll have a month where I'm like, Wow,

1231
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: this is so awesome. I'm so stoked to get to

1232
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 1: talk to all these people and to have these like

1233
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: It'll just like like I'll be in my brain thinking

1234
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: like okay, well that's this is all. That's all over,

1235
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: and you know now it's this is just uh, you know,

1236
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be despair forever. And then I'll have

1237
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: a month where I'm like, wait, actually we're back. Things

1238
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 1: are good, life is real, the world continues, you know.

1239
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: And today today, recording the podcast today was definitely one

1240
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: of those times where I'm like, wait, this is actually

1241
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. So thank you guys for listening, Thanks everyone

1242
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: for calling, and I am excited to continue to be

1243
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: a get go and talk to people about life and stuff.

1244
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. And oh once again, please'm in

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01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 1: on Friday March fourteenth. Friday March fourteenth, I am doing

1246
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: an art exhibition in Bushwick, Brooklyn on March fourteenth from

1247
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 1: seven pm to ten pm and it's free and the closer.

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01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: I don't actually know why I decided to do this.

1249
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: I was looking at my phone and I was like,

1250
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: why the fuck am I doing this? And that? But

1251
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: you know what, why the fuck does anyone do anything?

1252
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: Come see my trash the exhibition. The exhibition is called

1253
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: Lyle Forever presents Trash from around my room. Uh, you

1254
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: can find the link in the episode description and uh

1255
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: you can put your phone number in there and I'll

1256
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: text you more details about it. And also if I'm

1257
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: doing anything else, it's in Brooklyn, New York. Uh come

1258
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: hang uh yeah, check the episode description for the link

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01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,839
Speaker 1: to that. All right, thank you all very much for listening.

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01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 1: GEK bless see you around the universe. See see you

1261
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: in a few days when I drop another episode of

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01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,799
Speaker 1: the podcast. As always, okay, thanks.

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01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 2: Akain goes on the.

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01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,839
Speaker 4: Line taking your phone calls every nine every week.

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01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 1: And goes to just teaching you the line exper