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Speaker 1: Year, Wrapper It Up Podcast. Elliott Wilson, this is beat

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Speaker 1: Out beat Out. What's up?

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Speaker 2: Baby?

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Speaker 3: I feel like we're to talk if every barber shopping

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Speaker 3: beauty so long right now?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: Can the brothers have a couple opinions out here?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're the only opinions that matter and.

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Speaker 3: This culture, man, things like it. But it's all good though,

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Speaker 3: it's all love.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: Why do we why do we feel the need to

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Speaker 4: share our opinions to the world and just shake things up?

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Speaker 1: Beat Out?

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Speaker 4: Why do you think we do it just for fun,

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Speaker 4: just to get the rap holder it is?

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Speaker 3: I think it's tradition. Is also we gotta have conversation.

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Speaker 3: I think hip hop is also built on conversation, discourse, dialogue.

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Speaker 3: And you know that's the reason why we are in

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Speaker 3: this thing. We've been doing it for a long time,

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Speaker 3: doing it full long.

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Speaker 1: Time, and I always look forward to me.

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Speaker 4: I'm your friend, of your partner, but I still don't

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Speaker 4: never know what you're coming up with when you drop

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Speaker 4: these lists, man.

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited when you drop out to the world.

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Speaker 3: I see it like everybody else when it's a real time.

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Speaker 3: You know what's funny though, Elliott, you know we're six

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Speaker 3: months into twenty twenty three. Actually, I wasn't gonna do

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Speaker 3: one this year. I thought about it and all kind

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Speaker 3: of like teasing. No, No, really no, because it's like

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Speaker 3: I just felt like the game was just it's just

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Speaker 3: kind of like in a weird place like Jack call.

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Speaker 3: I was like, maybe I'm just gonna wait until the

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Speaker 3: end of the year. But then a friend of mine

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Speaker 3: put the batter in my back. I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: let me put out a midyear list just to kind

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Speaker 3: of get a given assessment of the game. Man, That's

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Speaker 3: what I did.

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Speaker 4: We have an amazing episode with Tuci. But before we

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Speaker 4: get to that, man, we gotta go do this beat

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Speaker 4: our List real fast. Top ten Best Rappers twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 4: Number ten you got Cardi b Cardy, number nine, Jack

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Speaker 4: Hollow yep, number eight, Killer Mike, Killer Mike Michael.

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Speaker 2: Number seven, Benny the Butcher, The Butcher Coming, number six.

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Speaker 3: Larry June yep.

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Speaker 1: And now we get to the top five.

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Speaker 4: It's where a big boy said big the top five

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Speaker 4: top forty one. Savage is at number five, yep. Currency

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Speaker 4: is at number four. The man who kicked off the

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Speaker 4: Raperate Our Podcast season too Todd the Creators at number three.

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Speaker 4: This is a shocking pick for me. Beat that number

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Speaker 4: two is Lotto Female FC Man. I meanc you never

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Speaker 4: showed up to the female they said. I was a

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Speaker 4: misogynist for like five years, five summers and the number

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Speaker 4: one best rapper twenty twenty three so far based on

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Speaker 4: skilled performance and relevance. But the first six months of

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, according to the expert Brian.

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Speaker 1: Be Dot Miller, is Jamaine Cole J Cole number one.

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Speaker 3: I mean, unless you're living on Mars, I think that's

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Speaker 3: pretty accurate. Okay, Okay, here's here's my quick question. I

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Speaker 3: thought we had a private conversation. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: we went the world to know, but did I didn't

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Speaker 3: think he was a big fan of that.

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Speaker 1: All my life.

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Speaker 3: I don't like that record. I hate it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I hate that song. Okay, so how

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Speaker 1: could you hate that song? And J Cole is number one?

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Speaker 1: Because be J Cole's the ole ancre of that song.

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Speaker 3: And that's the reason why. Because Jake without J Cole,

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Speaker 3: I think I think he elevated it to the prominist

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Speaker 3: song just kind of dies. But Cole is such a

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Speaker 3: talented rapper that he brought you know, he rose the

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Speaker 3: song to the occasion. So so you're saying that you

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Speaker 3: don't have to like the song, but you appreciate Cole's performance.

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Speaker 3: That's what That's what say absolutely and disco have anything

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Speaker 3: else because the don't thing I see people saying a

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Speaker 3: lit be the how do you judge someone? It was

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Speaker 3: just a feature itself far to share. But that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: That's the funny thing about what I do these listens,

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Speaker 3: Like since January first, I jot notes. I make a

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Speaker 3: make notes of everything happens in hip hop. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: he has to procrastination. Remember the YouTube uh song freestyle

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Speaker 3: that he put out? He has to someone walker joint,

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Speaker 3: he had the joint with the K pop artist.

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Speaker 4: No no, but the idea that you judge equally, like

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Speaker 4: how do you how do you stay with artists who

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Speaker 4: has a whole project out compared to somebody that's on

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Speaker 1: Like you don't draw any distinction of it.

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Speaker 3: But I also think I think it's disingenuous to say,

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Speaker 3: like Killer Mike is the best out, but the best

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Speaker 1: So I'm thinking about.

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Speaker 3: J Cole and his appearances or his relevancy rather over

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Speaker 3: the course of the last one hundred and eighty days,

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Speaker 3: he's been super put you but you put equal stock

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Speaker 3: to guests versus as much as somebody having a project

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Speaker 3: out for I mean, I think the project does hold

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Speaker 3: Killer Mike puts out an album in June and we're

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Speaker 3: So I'm thinking about, you know, how much how much

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Speaker 3: game you're running throughout the whole for the first six months,

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Speaker 3: for the last hundred and eighty days, okay, and then

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Speaker 3: a Lotto at number two that was shocking.

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Speaker 1: Why is a lot of at number two?

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Speaker 4: But they say you don't even like the feeble Fcson,

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Speaker 4: you got a lot of a number two?

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you do you own he? Do you

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Speaker 3: own a radio?

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Speaker 2: I be? I be.

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Speaker 3: I think she's having a hell of a run the

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Speaker 3: guest features. I think she's she killed the the Lolo

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Speaker 3: Brook feature. She's the rip the plastic like she's having

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Speaker 3: she's she's hot as well, but it's just not confined

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Speaker 4: Nah that I think she's I don't know if I

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Speaker 4: put it as high as number two, but I think definitely,

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Speaker 4: you know, put it on the floor.

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Speaker 1: It's big, Like.

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Speaker 4: You said, and Cardi out here, you have two female

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Speaker 4: f seas in the top ten. That's different for you

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Speaker 3: And the thing with Cardy is that Cardi only has

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Speaker 3: She's only had two recordings this year, right and recent one.

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Speaker 3: ripping out the plastic. She killed that verse. I think

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Speaker 3: she also elevated that song and it's been it's dominant.

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Speaker 3: Open up any app it's being played, you turn on

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Speaker 3: the radios, being played like it's ubiquitous. So you have

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Speaker 4: So one thing jumped out to me. So we see

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Speaker 4: Benny the Butcher, Well, see he's pretty quiet right now

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Speaker 4: compared to Conway so why does that Griselda as the

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Speaker 4: spot go to Benny over the machine.

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Speaker 3: That seemed a little surprising to me that I think

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Speaker 3: it's quiet if you don't listen to rap music. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think he started off the year pretty strong with

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Speaker 3: a French Montana, the Rizzard joint that was back in January,

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Speaker 3: and since then he's like, kind of he's been doing

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Speaker 3: a lot of collaborations with others. He did the joint

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Speaker 3: making his bones kind of quietly, you know, not more

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Speaker 3: so likes conwic because he has a whole album, but

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Speaker 3: has to be recognize. But hey, it's only the first

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Speaker 4: Lot of things are changing before we get into two

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Speaker 4: seeing one last question I have. So it seems like

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Speaker 4: there's three mcs, three artists that are not even on

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Speaker 4: why they're not there. I don't see any Drake who's

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Speaker 4: out here, Aubre a Reader's he's tearing shows down. He's

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Speaker 4: got search and rescue, whether we like it or not.

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Speaker 4: That's out there. You don't see no gut. I don't

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Speaker 4: see no Gunner, no gun out. Yeah, I don't see

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Speaker 4: Gunna with what best out of it? Oh, he's got

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Speaker 4: the best out of the year. Come on, little little

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Speaker 4: UZI burtvert first.

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Speaker 2: Number one album? So what what's going on with the

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Speaker 2: culture these guys were in the I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but if this was the hottest MC's list, then

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Speaker 3: maybe you know. But I don't think the Oozy album.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't really connect with it. It sounded like some

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Speaker 3: alternative rap situation, like the paramest rap music. That's it's

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Speaker 3: not rap. It's not great rap music. I also don't

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Speaker 3: think the Gunner album is what you're claiming it to

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Speaker 3: be the best album of the year. Absolutely not absolutely.

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Speaker 3: What about I've always I've said publicly I'm not a

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Speaker 3: big young thug fan. I've never been. And what was

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Speaker 2: The Drake Drake Drake, that guy Drake.

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Speaker 3: Drake, I think president figure personally, I never I didn't

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Speaker 3: like the Search and Rescue song. I just I don't

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Speaker 3: the Thug Thug album just didn't really resonate with me

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Speaker 2: You think you want record, You don't think it's gonna

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Speaker 3: I mean, Drake is Drake, so you know, whatever he's

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Speaker 3: the biggest artist in the game's biggest name in the building.

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Speaker 3: So but outside of that, I just don't think those

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Speaker 3: could change, like I said, six months later, will.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully be that then mess it up and was still

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Speaker 1: in the guest list for some of these shows. Man,

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Speaker 1: So to go see the well Speaker.

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Speaker 3: I want to see twenty one of him on the road. Man,

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Speaker 3: you got the best it up for us? Beat Out

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Speaker 3: Man twenty ones on the Best twenty ones, then.

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Speaker 4: Twenty one, twenty one, twenty one man, But you know,

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Speaker 4: congratulations beat out for whats to get stirreded up? Man,

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Speaker 4: you're dropping list and I already left town. That's how

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Speaker 4: you do it, your gangster, you know, say, just drop

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Speaker 4: dropped it on this. Yeah, that's how we do Let's

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Speaker 4: get it. Let's get it tonight. What we do do

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Speaker 4: is like today's episode. Man, Tucy Man like this kid.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: You know a lot of times we get the young

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Speaker 2: artists they can't talk, but this kid was special, right.

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Speaker 3: B Yeah, I like Tucci Man. He's doing he's making

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Speaker 3: his bones in the game as well. And he's a

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Speaker 4: Ooh still top ten one of the biggest Army I'll

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Speaker 4: think he's getting the full credit that he's got.

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Speaker 2: Really like to be the.

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Speaker 2: It's a clean record, no curse words. You getting munch

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Speaker 4: When you listen to your music, obviously hears so much

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Speaker 4: So you know, has that been important to maintain that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it continued to keep it keep me humbling, you

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Speaker 5: You know, I feel like that, But that comes from

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Speaker 2: with a bunch of women all day.

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00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:03,040
Speaker 5: Man, my sisters and oh god, yeah, yeah, I feel

441
00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,560
Speaker 5: like that's where that part comes from. But yeah, I'm

442
00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:06,400
Speaker 5: working on it though.

443
00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:06,840
Speaker 1: All right.

444
00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,520
Speaker 3: A woman that's really important to your in your life.

445
00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:09,840
Speaker 1: Is your mom.

446
00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's my baby. Yeah.

447
00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,000
Speaker 3: She kicks off the album Yes World number one, number one,

448
00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,399
Speaker 3: I meaningful? Was it to hear see those things on

449
00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:18,240
Speaker 3: the opening track?

450
00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,200
Speaker 2: Oh it touched my heart? Man? My mom?

451
00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:26,520
Speaker 5: My mom real, she she she's real in tune with

452
00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,119
Speaker 5: everything I got going on, you know, like she know

453
00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,760
Speaker 5: I'm doing this right now. She know, she know I

454
00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,160
Speaker 5: did all the interviews that I did today, Like.

455
00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,320
Speaker 2: She she too.

456
00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, she wanted to be a part of everything that

457
00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,160
Speaker 5: I do, So I feel like like it's very important.

458
00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,280
Speaker 5: It was very important to hear those those things that

459
00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,040
Speaker 5: she said, because that's another thing that keep me humble

460
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:48,840
Speaker 5: kind of you know.

461
00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you remember those stories that she was talking about, Oh.

462
00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, most death. Yeah, I got a burn mark on

463
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,560
Speaker 2: my leg right here from one of those stories she

464
00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,280
Speaker 2: was talking about, feeling so real life stuff.

465
00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,479
Speaker 5: She ain't telling her a lie. But I always been,

466
00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,639
Speaker 5: always been a kid who made drastic decisions. So I

467
00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,760
Speaker 5: feel like that's the reason why you know, we're in

468
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,200
Speaker 5: the position that we're in today because I was a

469
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 5: risk taker.

470
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, you're also touching an album about going through

471
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,240
Speaker 4: like tough to multuous times and being homeless and things

472
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:21,840
Speaker 4: like that. Nature like and then you kind of ended

473
00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,159
Speaker 4: up earlier like almost going enough Carolina was the best thing.

474
00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,800
Speaker 1: For you because you don't know what path it would

475
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,800
Speaker 1: have ended up for you. Yeah, stayed.

476
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, most definitely. I come from a dangerous place. You

477
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,919
Speaker 5: know a lot of people who who from who not

478
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,240
Speaker 5: from upstate don't.

479
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,080
Speaker 2: Know what upstate really like. Yeah, and.

480
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 5: Believe it or not, you Yeah, Syracuse college cool, but

481
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,919
Speaker 5: around the corner from the college you got to Pioneer Homes.

482
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:51,399
Speaker 5: It's the pH you know, like we're talking about, uh

483
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,000
Speaker 5: where we got We're talking about like my brother was

484
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 5: a part of a like thirty five and Dyke Dyt

485
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 5: man Rico, Like know we we ain't we ain't talking

486
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 5: about something sweet. So I think that was like the

487
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,399
Speaker 5: best thing my mom could have did for me. If

488
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 5: I would have stayed there, I probably wouldn't even be

489
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 5: here to tell this story. I got a lot of

490
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,199
Speaker 5: friends who passed away, and I got a lot of

491
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,120
Speaker 5: friends who locked up.

492
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 2: I got about six seven friends who dad, my granddad

493
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 2: dead stabbed, got stabbed to death by a few friends.

494
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 5: Like yeah, I come from a rough life. So at

495
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 5: the end of the day, it's like I'm thankful to

496
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 5: be here.

497
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,479
Speaker 4: Man and you guys had something of the other interviews

498
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 4: that So your granddad had got stabbed by a couple

499
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 4: of friends of yours.

500
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

501
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 5: A couple couple of people that I knew got uh

502
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,919
Speaker 5: stabs like sixteen times.

503
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 1: What was the story behind that? Like, what wasn't the

504
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 1: kid to that.

505
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 2: Point he used to do drugs? You know, what I mean.

506
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 5: Grand granddad struck out on drugs, like not like not hard,

507
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 5: but you know, smug aerle we do this and that

508
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 5: whatever whatever? Uh going to cop one day and they

509
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 5: tried to rob him, try.

510
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 2: To rob him and stab him a few times.

511
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 5: And you know, because he wouldn't give it up, man,

512
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 5: he ran back home fill out, the door collapsed and

513
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 5: he passed away. So yeah, I mean, we come from

514
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 5: a rough background, but it's life though. We get what

515
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 5: I'm saying.

516
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 2: Life ain't sweet, Life ain't peaches and cream.

517
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 5: It's all about what you make of it. So I'm here,

518
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 5: today's putting on and I'm gonna keep living life. You

519
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 5: know this, this is what we do. We gotta we

520
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:34,719
Speaker 5: gotta keep pushing.

521
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 3: You give a lot of your life on the record.

522
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: This is love man. Like. Was that a hard record

523
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: to make?

524
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was probably one of my one of my

525
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 5: harder records to make. A lot of people don't know

526
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 5: what I really come from, you know what I'm saying,

527
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 5: And on that and on that track, I kind of

528
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 5: like we're just trying to explain to people that.

529
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 2: I come from.

530
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,719
Speaker 5: I come from a rough background. Granddaddy strug out on drugs, right,

531
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 5: got aids the reason why I moved down to North Carolina,

532
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 5: and then as far as like my big mom, like

533
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 5: I love her to death, and we come from two

534
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 5: different backgrounds. She come from a life where it's good,

535
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 5: it's great. You know, I ain't saying she's civil spoon fed,

536
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 5: but she had a good whereas I'm from the I'm

537
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 5: from the bottom of the bottom. I'm from the jacks.

538
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 5: You know, I had to figure it out my whole life.

539
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 5: When you met me, I was homeless, I mean ninth

540
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 5: grade and you ain't no. But at the end of

541
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 5: the day, I'm here today, and the reason why I

542
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 5: am the way that I am is because these are

543
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,160
Speaker 5: the things that I went through. So that was kind

544
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 5: of like a song dedicated to her to let her know, like,

545
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 5: I live a hard life, but at the end of

546
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 5: the day, I'm not making no excuses. I just want

547
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 5: you to know that I apologize for the things that

548
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 5: I have put you through, but you know that's what

549
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 5: I come from.

550
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: Right You also kind of like shout out your father

551
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 3: a lot throughout the record too, talking about like how

552
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 3: it's half for him hard for you to love him

553
00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 3: when he was loving someone else's child.

554
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so my dad.

555
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 5: It's crazy because when I first moved down South Man,

556
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 5: I moved from New York to well, I moved with

557
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 5: my dad. I was living in Ithaca. I was living

558
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 5: in Ithaca with my dad for a little bit, from Syracuse.

559
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 5: Then from Ithaca we moved to South Carolina, and I

560
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 5: was living in Goose Creek, South Carolina for a little bit,

561
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 5: and my dad was like with another girl. Him and

562
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 5: my mom had separated. The lady had two twins, and

563
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 5: I was just watching them raise them every day. But

564
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 5: he really had no he didn't have no connection with

565
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 5: the rest of my siblings no more. And it was like, damn,

566
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 5: like I'm watching you, I'm watching you love these people kids,

567
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 5: and it's like you don't even really got no relationship

568
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 5: with us. You know, I'm here every day, but like shit,

569
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 5: we thugging for real. We ain't got nothing. I'm missing school,

570
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 5: you teaching me how to cook fish and ship like that,

571
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 5: because because because we ain't really got nothing else to

572
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 5: make outside of us not having nothing else to make,

573
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 5: it's like, you know, I.

574
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: Mean, I'm you you you.

575
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 5: He having to do tests, I'm I'm like, I'm it's

576
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 5: just crazy shit he having to do. Like you know,

577
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 5: I remember my dad used to let me. I say

578
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 5: it now because it's it's all over, But I remember

579
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 5: my dad used to let me stay home from school

580
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 5: because he'll get drug tested, and and I used to

581
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 5: piss in the I used to have to piss in

582
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 5: a container for him, you know what I mean. And

583
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 5: it's like, that's the life I come from. But that's

584
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 5: that's what I was living. We ain't had nothing, no,

585
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 5: so I he those days he have to get drug tested.

586
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 5: I stay home pissed for him. He go to work,

587
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 5: and like I was at home one day by myself.

588
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 5: One day, my mom came and got me, like we

589
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 5: ain't doing this.

590
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

591
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: We moved to North Carolina, and I like, I'm.

592
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 3: Man because I'm a wallow and the loud he talked

593
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 3: about like at twelve years old, he wanted to be

594
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 3: just like him.

595
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that was that was my idol. Man.

596
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 5: He the reason why I am the way that I am.

597
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 5: He he always was there for me whenever I needed

598
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 5: him or I went through a lot of things in life.

599
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 5: He went through a lot of things in his life

600
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 5: that he overcame, and like, cause's just certain things that

601
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 5: like nobody else could teach me about except for him.

602
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 5: So I think, like that's why today, Like I'm so

603
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 5: I'm the way I am with my son. Man, I

604
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 5: love my son, that's my heart and I die for

605
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 5: him feel me without even think about it. But I

606
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 5: feel like my dad the same way with me.

607
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: So I mention your son. He's on the cover of

608
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 3: the album with your mom.

609
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, more stuff, next stuff.

610
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: What does that imagery mean for you?

611
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 5: I wanted it to be something that was real personal,

612
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 5: real personal, and I remember you growing up. My mom

613
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 5: used to be a hairdresser. She used to do everybody

614
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 5: here outside of the crib. And it was a point

615
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 5: in my life where like, uh, I first started making

616
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:17,239
Speaker 5: music and I had locked my heir up. So my

617
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 5: mom used to do my hair every night before school.

618
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 5: She'll put it in braids, or she'd like she'll she'll

619
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 5: twist it up, or whatever the case may be. I

620
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 5: was in the phase of locking my hair up. That

621
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 5: was when I first started making music. So I feel

622
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 5: like that was like where that imagery came from. Like,

623
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, this is when I first started

624
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 5: making music. This was this is person this is a

625
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 5: personal moment for me and then my son is you know,

626
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 5: that's just it's where I'm at today.

627
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

628
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 5: So I got my past behind me and my future

629
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 5: in front of me, and that's that's that's what the

630
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 5: uh that's what the cover about.

631
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: Man, what significance of a song? Like villains and heroes?

632
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 5: You know they say and villains and heroes is like, uh,

633
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 5: I want people to know, like sometimes it ain't it

634
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 5: ain't and it's not a bad thing being a villain

635
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 5: in certain people's story with you the hero and everybody

636
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 5: else story. You know what I'm saying, I might be

637
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 5: the villain in your story, but in your story, I

638
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 5: might be a hero. And what people don't understand is

639
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 5: everybody loved the hero because the hero will sacrifice one

640
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 5: person to save the world, but they hate the villain

641
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 5: because the villain I sacrifice the world to save one person.

642
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 5: And what's really what's really better? You know what I'm saying,

643
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 5: I love you more than I love you more than life.

644
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 5: I love you more than everything else. You're the only

645
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 5: thing that matter, and I'm willing to risk everything for you.

646
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 5: So am I really the villain? Or or or am

647
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 5: I a hero?

648
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: So I don't mind being a villain to everybody else

649
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 2: from a hero to you.

650
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: What zone with you in that day in the studio?

651
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: Man, Man, I feel like I mean, so that's like that's.

652
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: Sitting in your chest for a man, Like, do you

653
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: feel like that's something?

654
00:27:59,160 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: Man?

655
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 5: Throughout this album, man, You're gonna get a lot of

656
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 5: person on stuff. As I was on tour with Rode.

657
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: Wave, I wasn't out there himself.

658
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, As I was on tour with Ride Wave, I

659
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 5: was going through a lot of stuff emotionally mentally. I

660
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 5: was just on the tour bus, you know. I was

661
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 5: on the tour bus and when I wrote that record,

662
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 5: and it was just like, you know, it's like on

663
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 5: the tour bus on the way that Phoenix currently to

664
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 5: Am looked like everybody's sleeping. I mean, I'm up thinking,

665
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 5: like I know, she probably think I'm up cheating. Like

666
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 5: it's like, I know, she probably think I'm up doing

667
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 5: some func shit. But at the end of the.

668
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: Day, it's like I'm out here every day trying to

669
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: figure out how to get it, how to how to

670
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: how to stick to what I gave up everything for,

671
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: you know, because before it was me and her, it

672
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: was me and the music.

673
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 5: And every day this this, this, this is what I

674
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 5: devote my life to. This is what I get in

675
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 5: my life to and it's just like, you know, I

676
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 5: was overwhelmed and I couldn't do I couldn't do nothing

677
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 5: but write music, and I came up with villains and arrows.

678
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: What is that dedication to the music come from?

679
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 4: Was that is that part of your family's things, because

680
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 4: it's in like it's kind of you know, is that

681
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 4: connected to the family?

682
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 5: Also, Man, my dad used to make music, you know,

683
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 5: so he the reason why I started making music. Outside

684
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 5: of my dad making music, my brother used to make music.

685
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 5: That the reason why I do everything that I do.

686
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 5: That the reason why I started playing sports. That the

687
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 5: reason why I started making music. That the reason why

688
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 5: I am the way I am. And yeah, like that's

689
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 5: where the connection come from. But other than that, the

690
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 5: vulnerability of my music, I feel like that just come

691
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 5: from everything that I've been through. Yeah, I just donet

692
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 5: been through a lot, man, Man, I'm still try how

693
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 5: to deal with it all.

694
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 4: Was it even from jumping you able to tap into

695
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 4: that emotion or did it develop over time that you.

696
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: Can hear from the jump?

697
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 5: It was it used to be so deep to the

698
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 5: point where, like I used to I used to lock

699
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 5: myself in the closet and write music because I wanted

700
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 5: to like rap, and I wanted to like you know

701
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 5: and I but I didn't want nobody hear me.

702
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: Mm.

703
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: So I used to lock myself in the closet, play

704
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: beats and and just rap.

705
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 5: Rap all day. Man, write music all day. And I

706
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 5: be in the closet for hours and hours.

707
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: So but why the closet just cause you isolated and.

708
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 5: It was dark dark? Yeah, it was dark. It made

709
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 5: it made it let like it kind of like made

710
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 5: me feel like I was alone. M Yeah, I used

711
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 5: to have this being inside my closet and it used

712
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 5: to have like pillows in it, and I sit inside

713
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 5: to ben with pillows and I just write music for hours.

714
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: Brom.

715
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: But even with all your success last year, you said

716
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 3: you were on the verge of giving up when you

717
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: made the song last Song off Boys Don't Cry, Like,

718
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: why was that in mind set?

719
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 4: Uh?

720
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: La? Man? Last year?

721
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 5: Last year was probably like the worst year of my life.

722
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 5: Oh so I was going through a lot, man mentally,

723
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 5: just for everything I was going through, like with family issues,

724
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 5: just with decisions I was making things I was doing.

725
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 5: I was going through a lot. I was stressed out.

726
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 5: And it wasn't even about me like just giving up.

727
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 5: It was about just uh well yeah, yeah, I was

728
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 5: on I I'll say I was on a verge. Just

729
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 5: feel like I wanted to give up.

730
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: Mm.

731
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 5: But it wasn't w what was meant for me? Ell

732
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 5: it wa, I wasn't. I wasn't meant to give up.

733
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 5: I I already gave up everything firs MM. So if

734
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 5: I give up here, if I give up on this,

735
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 5: I don't have nothing else. And I had to sit

736
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 5: and think and tell myself, like I got a lot

737
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 5: of people that's depending on me. You know, I look

738
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 5: around at my circle, and in my circle, everybody that

739
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 5: I'm around is the difference maker for their family. So

740
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 5: my my manager, he don't got nobody who made a

741
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 5: difference as family. Who's who who who has the opportunity

742
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 5: to create generational wealth or m be the chases or

743
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 5: the wells, far goals or the h you know, he

744
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 5: don't have nobody. He he he's the person that's gonna

745
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 5: do that. My security, he don't got nobody. He the

746
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 5: one that's gonna do that. My assistant, my my digital

747
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 5: gud my, got people that's depending on me.

748
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: But it all start with me.

749
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 5: And if I give up on everything, it's like I'm

750
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 5: allowing everybody to just fail. You know, I'm feeling everybody.

751
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 5: So all I sat for a week. My manager flew

752
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 5: out of town and he was just like, I'm gonna

753
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 5: give you a week to get it together. You know

754
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 5: what I mean. When I come back, like all of

755
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 5: that's over. We gotta figure it out. Cause he knew

756
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 5: what I was going through. I was going through a lot.

757
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 5: He was like, when I get back, you gotta let

758
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 5: it all go.

759
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: So with.

760
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 5: Like, alright, bet, I'm like, i'm'a get closer with God.

761
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 5: After I get closer with God, I'm gonna go get

762
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,479
Speaker 5: this journal and I'm gonna write everything in it. I'm right,

763
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 5: just what I want to do, what I want to accomplish.

764
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: So boom, I.

765
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 5: Ain't got the journal. This's the same day I ain't

766
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 5: got the journal. I had already been been getting closer

767
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 5: with God though, but I ain't got the journal.

768
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: And I call him. I'm like, you at home, mind you.

769
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: He lived right across the street from Carolina. Accidentally Crazy

770
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: Accidentally we've been together since I was sixteen.

771
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 5: Man, he accidentally moved across the street. He sent me

772
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 5: his address one day, like like, yeah, where you at me? Like,

773
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 5: I'm at I'm at this. It was, uh, I think

774
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 5: we I think He like, I think we closed. He

775
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 5: sent me the address. I look out my window. I'm like, bro,

776
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 5: your house is across the street. Yeah, but he never

777
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 5: see he never knew that because it's it's really it's

778
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 5: really my girl crib but like, yeah, it's really it's

779
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 5: really hurts spoty.

780
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: He never been there.

781
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 5: So like like, I'm like, yo, so yeah, be it

782
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 5: that having So I'm like he's like all right, he

783
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 5: like I'm gonna cus. I'm like, I'm about to come

784
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 5: over there, come over here. I slapped the journal. I'm

785
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 5: tell you.

786
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, what we I need to know what

787
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: we need to do to do this? All right?

788
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 5: So what we need to do in order to go

789
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 5: platinum in three months? How much money is that gunn generate?

790
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 5: What do we oh, what do we need to be

791
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 5: investing in? What do we need to be spending on?

792
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 5: What do I need to do? Okay, now I'm gonna

793
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 5: go back. I'm gonna call my digital god.

794
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: Dante.

795
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 5: I'm called Dante me and Dante. Dontell on the phone, Dante,

796
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 5: how many tiktoks I need to be making? How many

797
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 5: posts I need to be making a week? How many

798
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 5: posts I need to be making to day? What times

799
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 5: I need to post that? He like we get we

800
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 5: get the whole break down and like now you got

801
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 5: favorite song, and it's like yeah, like it's gotta be

802
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 5: a real plan with everything. See everybody think it's oh yeah,

803
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 5: there the record just caught and it's I mean, yeah,

804
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 5: that's cool.

805
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 4: But I put that right, I put that work in.

806
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 4: I got strategic post. You have to almost be approach

807
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 4: your whole listener.

808
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 5: Like you say, like we bought that yellow. Man bought

809
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 5: that yellow ain't become bought that yellow like by by

810
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 5: just I mean we put it out there in the

811
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 5: record group, like nah, like you had to put it

812
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 5: in that leg work my favorite song. They become favorite

813
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 5: song by us just putting it on.

814
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: We had that.

815
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 5: We literally all right, we and then I wrote down

816
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 5: everything like all right, I want to get down Jimmy Fallon.

817
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 5: After I get down Jimmy Fallon, I want to do that.

818
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 5: I did all of those things I'm like, yeah, like

819
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 5: I want to make I'm like, I want to make

820
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 5: rap caviar because I never made rap caviar, Like I

821
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 5: want to make rab caviar. For this, I need to

822
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 5: do this. I need to do this. This is what

823
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 5: playlist I need to have after we do this, I

824
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 5: need to go and get the feature. This this, this

825
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 5: is what I wanted to remix. And it was just

826
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 5: like we wrote it all out and we planned it,

827
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 5: and so.

828
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 4: It's something like you came overcame a kind of real

829
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: career turning point of like this could go this way

830
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 4: if it doesn't. So part of maybe one of the

831
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: quit was you you didn't feel like you would getting

832
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 4: the results that you wanted.

833
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 5: Fully ah, Honestly, man, it was never really about the results.

834
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 5: I ain't really I don't care who liked my music

835
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, cause when I started

836
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 5: making music, I ain't want to do it for nobody.

837
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 5: I did it for me because I was going through stuff.

838
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 5: It was more so about personal issues that I was

839
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 5: having that was intervening with what.

840
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: I had going on.

841
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 5: I felt like it was slowing me down and my

842
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 5: love for music was dying. But the reason why my

843
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 5: love was dying was because I was.

844
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't. It was never dying.

845
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 5: It was just I was emotionally cloudy, like I ain't,

846
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 5: I ain't my my everything was blocked up, you get

847
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So I had to get closer with

848
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 5: God and understand that this is this is my calling.

849
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 5: And I begged for a sign, and like one day

850
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 5: it just hit me. I was like, this the record,

851
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 5: Like feel me. I already knew it was the record,

852
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 5: but I'm like, this is the record, like and then

853
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 5: it's it's this this This guy that Carter, the COO

854
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 5: of my label, he called me. He like cause we

855
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 5: were supposed to do a DJ Drama mixtape before the

856
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 5: before the song became We was never s this song

857
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 5: was never supposed to come out.

858
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 2: Mm.

859
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 5: We were supposed to do a DJ drama mixtape like

860
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 5: thirteen songs under DJ Dramma Mixtape twenty one Savage up there,

861
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 5: like the pull Up record was supposed to be up there.

862
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 5: We had a bunch of other features, Like, we had

863
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 5: a bunch of features with like a few few artists.

864
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 5: I'm like, nah, this is not what we need to do.

865
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,479
Speaker 5: Take this off. This not what we we We ain't

866
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 5: doing this. I'm like this the record. So then you know,

867
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 5: Carter called me. He like, bro, you sure you wanna

868
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 5: do this? So I'm like, nah, I don't know what's

869
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 5: going on, but this, this, this, this is what we

870
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 5: need to be doing. He like, mm, I don't know. Bro,

871
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 5: Like it sounded like like that sounded like a great plan.

872
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 5: I I'm like, nah, Carter, this is what I need

873
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 5: to do. I'm like, God, God like put this in me. Bro,

874
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 5: It's nobody who could talk me off of this? He like, well,

875
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 5: how you know, God, they send me to t I'm like, God, God, God,

876
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 5: ain't seeing you to tell me this?

877
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: Bro?

878
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 5: This this, this was supposed to happen.

879
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: And you know.

880
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 4: With dramas resurgence, like, well, that's that's a safer play,

881
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 4: go down direction, you know what.

882
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 5: I'm definitely And then over time I just realized being

883
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 5: a better person. Being a better person is what would

884
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 5: helped me get where I needed to be. There was

885
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 5: certain things I was doing that wasn't right and I

886
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 5: couldn't become successful because I was.

887
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: Doing the wrong thing. So personal karma, yeah, I was

888
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: having personal karma. Yeah. Yeah.

889
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 5: Most death Man things that's in the Bible that I

890
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 5: had to clean up on. But you know, God, God

891
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 5: is forgiven, because God is forgiven when you you have

892
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 5: no understanding. When you have an understanding and you know

893
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 5: what's going on, and you know you're supposed to be

894
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 5: doing something, and that's a little bit different. So once

895
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 5: I got light of certain things that I was supposed

896
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 5: to be doing and I started doing it, things started

897
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 5: going my way.

898
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: There's a part at the end of Will Be King

899
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: whereas like you're having a conversation with somebody and then

900
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: that person says, what you're going through ain't bigger than

901
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: what you're about to receive. Yeah, was that during that

902
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: same time that he was going through it?

903
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 2: Most death? Most death? Most death?

904
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I remember that conversation. I was

905
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 5: in the studio and it was just all about like

906
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 5: where he was edited, you know what you're going through

907
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 5: right now. I was actually telling somebody that. That's the

908
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 5: crazy part of It's like, yeah, I was telling I

909
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 5: was telling the God I was I was in the

910
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 5: studio with because he was going through something as west. Yeah,

911
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 5: he was going through something as well, and I was

912
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 5: just telling him, like, you know what you're going through,

913
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 5: ain't what you're going through ain't bigger than what you

914
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 5: what you're gonna receive, bro, it's it's it's something bigger

915
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 5: than life coming for you.

916
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 2: Don't worry.

917
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 3: See you want to choke somebody that day?

918
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, word word man, I was going through it, boy.

919
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: Right, So he continued to still do the journal or

920
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: is it yeah?

921
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: Ok?

922
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got my man. I keep my

923
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 5: journal with me. Man, m m, yeah, I keep my

924
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 5: journal with me.

925
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: Had you ever in the asked, was that a whole

926
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: new thing that you?

927
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: Nah? Man? My son? Mom got me on it, my son.

928
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 5: She she writed her journal a lot, and you know

929
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 5: she actually who got me closer to God as well?

930
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 5: Like she she started indulging in the Bible, reading the

931
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 5: Bible a lot of a lot more often like that

932
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 5: inspired me so and she started writing in the journal.

933
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: I started writing in the journal.

934
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 4: Inspired me speaking inspiration and you literally closed out. But

935
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 4: God loves me to talk about the place you was

936
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: that to make that song?

937
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, So on the hook it is uh, it's actually

938
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 5: it's actually this this group from Africa and and what

939
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 5: they're saying on the hook is, uh, God loved me

940
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 5: more today than he does yesterday than he did yesterday.

941
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 5: So each on the on the end of each verse,

942
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 5: you'll hear me. So you'll hear me say one thing

943
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 5: that I know God let me more than he did yesterday.

944
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 5: And I think the biggest thing is just like overcoming.

945
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 5: It's only one way to close it out, man, Like

946
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 5: close it out with the way that we came in here.

947
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 5: Like I said, I'm big on God, bro, So I

948
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 5: try to like, I just try to put that in

949
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 5: wherever I can. I feel like that's what I'm supposed

950
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 5: to use the platform for. That's what they say.

951
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you.

952
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 3: Also get a lot of game too on the project. Man,

953
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: going back to the opening track, rule number one, and

954
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: you have these rules. You know about these rules Elliott

955
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 3: jeh three number one, So you never give a girl

956
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: your heart.

957
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: Elliott's married everybody.

958
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: I don't lie, man, I gots somebody got my heart.

959
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: Though, Okay, okay, at you, So you not living your

960
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: ramps too.

961
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: See, I'm living it though. That's why I'm telling you.

962
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 5: That's what I'm telling you, because when they know, man

963
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 5: together or not, when somebody got your heart, yeah, you

964
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 5: know what I mean. It's a cautionary it's a caution Okay, cautionary.

965
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,959
Speaker 5: So rule number two's play your part. When it's your time,

966
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 5: you'll make it. That's identifiable.

967
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah death.

968
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: Rule number three, put God first.

969
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: Lead the house, grab your rob first. It was death

970
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: was death.

971
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we come from that world. Yeah, it's it's

972
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 5: rough out here. Put God first, and when you lead

973
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 5: the house, grab your ride first. That's unless you fine,

974
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 5: we're trying to ride hurst.

975
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: That's a fact.

976
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, real talk now, you gotta you got you know,

977
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 5: we come from a rough world. I ain't saying go

978
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 5: out here and slang it, but keep it.

979
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: On, you know.

980
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 1: So what's what's rule number four?

981
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I ain't got that far.

982
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 5: We're gonna save that for rule number of Rule number

983
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 5: four's album. Yeah, rule number four, we're gonna we're gonna

984
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 5: put that on the next album.

985
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: You got another line.

986
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 4: Lady was talking about Cat's breaking into your home because

987
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 4: he's putting their.

988
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: Names and songs.

989
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, yeah, the truth can almost get you HRD sometimes.

990
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, most death. Yeah, I went through, I went through.

991
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 5: I went through. Uh, I went through a little bit.

992
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 5: But yeah, my my house, it's crazy. I never told

993
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 5: him about my house got broken. Into but that was

994
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 5: like because another reason. But I had went through some stuff,

995
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 5: you know, for for some stuff out of there. Hear

996
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 5: its life though we lived that we lived. We we

997
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 5: live in that world. You know, we live in that world.

998
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 5: It's a dog eat dog world. So I mean, at

999
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 5: the end of the day, we living though we up,

1000
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,959
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, we don't. We don't thrive

1001
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 5: off negativity. Uh So when my house got broken into,

1002
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 5: I ain't need I ain't even put it out there,

1003
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 5: tell nobody or.

1004
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: Be like, yeah, y'all niggas broke into my crib and

1005
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: they stole a bunch of stuff. But I mean, at

1006
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 2: the end of the day, it wasn't nothing. Really. I

1007
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 2: don't keep valuable stuff at my house though I don't know.

1008
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 5: Why, Like people think they gonna break into a house

1009
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 5: that like still like, oh, we're gonna find it safe

1010
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 5: and it's safe, have a million dollars in there, and

1011
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 5: we're gonna be a million dollars richer.

1012
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 2: I don't keep money, know how people stick people up anymore?

1013
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm give my vemo.

1014
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 2: Nobody word want my vemo? You finna ribbed me so

1015
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: I could cash up. I know who I'm cash upping me.

1016
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: It don't make no sense. Like I don't lie, bro,

1017
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't keep cash on me. I don't

1018
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: keep cashing my home.

1019
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: Ain't taking you to the bank, not taking you.

1020
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 5: I'm not taking you to the bank. This jewelry, I

1021
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 5: mean we insure the game game No plane listen, plane, James, listen.

1022
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 5: This this is where the money at.

1023
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: Speak to you.

1024
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: So I don't know about watches, man, tell me what

1025
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: you guys have?

1026
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: Why is that so so right here?

1027
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 5: I got a Rolex forty I believe forty one million,

1028
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 5: forty one milimeters.

1029
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: Date just stop for they just they just date. Just mine.

1030
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: Mine got a Mine is blue with the fluid, yeah,

1031
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: with the fluid flu the bezel fake. No, No, I

1032
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: was looking I got his own.

1033
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: Why I was?

1034
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 3: I was.

1035
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: I was looking at that one.

1036
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: Check him out right, you know.

1037
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 2: I was looking at that one like that. It's because

1038
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: it go with everything got yeah. Yeah. But but it just.

1039
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 5: So happened that I had something with a little blue

1040
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 5: in it, and I was able to you know, but

1041
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 5: I wanted I wanted something. All of my jewelry really

1042
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 5: rolls go. So I wanted something that was like standing still,

1043
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 5: like white gold really standles still.

1044
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 3: I need to be like you two hit the road

1045
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 3: so I can get some more watches.

1046
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, bro hey, it ain't about you hit. You

1047
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 5: doing fairly well. I'll be seeing y'all. Man, y'all do.

1048
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: Listen, y'all. Y'all don't know. I watched, I watched About five,

1049
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 2: and I watched the Drake one. I watched, I watched

1050
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: The Young Boy One Out. I watched a bunch of

1051
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: interviewshore I came here. Yeah, but like I said, I'm

1052
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: watching you on the road. You just wrapped up the

1053
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: European tour, right yes, yeah, man, yeah s show like, Man, well,

1054
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: I gotta go see you one.

1055
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: What's the show like?

1056
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 2: Get a little crazy, man?

1057
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 5: You never know what. You might get a few bros

1058
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 5: on stage. You might get a you might get me

1059
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 5: climbing on stuff.

1060
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: Okay, you might get You do have it all planned out.

1061
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: You kind of row with the energy.

1062
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: I roll with the energy. Man.

1063
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 5: I might be in a crowd. I might be Yeah,

1064
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 5: I might be in a crowd. I ain't no telling, man,

1065
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 5: I might be standing on my security shoulders.

1066
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 4: So the better the crowd gives you get, the better performance.

1067
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: What if the crowd go crazy.

1068
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 5: I'm you're gonna have the greatest performance of your life,

1069
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 5: I promise you.

1070
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: What was it like overseas?

1071
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: Oh, the love was crazy. Yeah.

1072
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 5: It's like they'd be waiting to see you or something. Yeah, man,

1073
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 5: and it's like you gotta they take it in because

1074
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 5: they never know when they go see you again. It's

1075
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 5: easy for like, you know, artists from the area, just

1076
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 5: like from here. It's easy for artists from our area

1077
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 5: to come here and do do shows and we see

1078
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 5: them and we love it. But when an artist who

1079
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 5: not from here come around, it's like, you know, it's

1080
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 5: times ten.

1081
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1082
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 3: You definitely had the crowd in your paws man at

1083
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: Dreamville fast Yeah.

1084
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: Uh this that you was there for that?

1085
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1086
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you came through this year.

1087
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: You made it a key block because you couldn't make it.

1088
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out block.

1089
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1090
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 3: What was it like to get that call? How did

1091
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 3: that happen?

1092
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 1: Man? Well, that was the last minute pull.

1093
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: Up, last minute pull up. Listen. We always wanted to

1094
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: be on Dreamville bro.

1095
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: In North Carolina.

1096
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 5: Boy, Yeah, you know, we always we always wanted to

1097
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 5: be on Dreamville, and it was all about just whenever

1098
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 5: the moment was right, when they called we'll be there

1099
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 5: if not. It was waiting on it, you know, and

1100
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 5: we we got the call. We had just got back

1101
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 5: from Arizona and it was perfect time and they're like, hey,

1102
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 5: the block couldn't make it, Tuesy can tuessy pull up

1103
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 5: my manager like yeah, like we we gotta do it.

1104
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 5: It could have It could have been for zero dollars.

1105
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 5: We still would have been there.

1106
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: You know, did J Cole you personally?

1107
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 2: No? I wish Bro hell Noah, fuck, oh my girl. Bro.

1108
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 2: If Cole called me Bro man, y'all might not. I'm

1109
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: I'm straight man. Listen.

1110
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 5: That's that's somebody that I, you know, really genuinely look

1111
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 5: up to. If you see this interview, feel me. I

1112
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 5: remember Bro, when I was sixteen years old and I

1113
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 5: met you at the Boys Club. I had a CD

1114
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 5: in my hand and I had a note. He probably

1115
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 5: don't even remember this. Do that for all of us, Listen.

1116
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 5: That's the that's the only person I've ever done that for.

1117
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 5: Wow moment with what Bro seen him another time and

1118
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 5: in Carrie, North Carolina, Like I seen him in carry

1119
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 5: North Carolina at the target, like he a real regular dude.

1120
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 5: But at this time, like I had had a head record,

1121
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 5: but I didn't even get to speak to him. I

1122
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 5: just seen him. He went about his day. I want

1123
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 5: to It's just like one of those women.

1124
00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, like tap you with Eve. It's like

1125
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: a full circle moment.

1126
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: Donnie, please, Bro, I don't lie. I don't even It's

1127
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: not even about me working with j cole Bro. I

1128
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: want to.

1129
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 5: I want to have a conversation and just tell him, like, Yo, Bro,

1130
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 5: you I mean you played a big part of my

1131
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 5: life outside of you playing a big part of my life,

1132
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 5: like it feels good to be like you know, I

1133
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 5: mean I did everything I told you I was gonna do.

1134
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1135
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 3: Do you remember what Do you remember what the note said? Yeah?

1136
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

1137
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 5: In the note, I was just telling them like, yo,

1138
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 5: cold's up. My name Tucy. I'm a sixteen year old

1139
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 5: artist originally from Syracuse, New York. Here in Raleigh, North Carolina,

1140
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 5: and now I gave him like a little bit of

1141
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 5: what I was going through. I'm like, yo, like, I'm

1142
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 5: out here making music, putting on for my family. I

1143
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 5: come from a five five My mom got five kids.

1144
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 5: I'm the youngest of five, and I just want to

1145
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 5: tell you like you inspired me. I told him, like,

1146
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 5: I got the CD here, I would love it if

1147
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 5: you listen to it. If not, I understand. But at

1148
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 5: the end of the day, I appreciate you worth taking

1149
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 5: the time to even read this letter. And yeah, like

1150
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 5: on the CD, I had a like it was remixes

1151
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 5: though it was a remix tape and uh and on

1152
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 5: the tape it had like, uh, I had a song

1153
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 5: up there called let Cold Down.

1154
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: Wow. Yes, uh yeah, how you how you're different now?

1155
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Yeah, I just did the record back and

1156
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: then a moment yeahah.

1157
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 5: Bro, so it's like, yeah, I had a few records

1158
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 5: up there. Bro, I have to go back through it,

1159
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 5: but it was it was definitely one of the moments man.

1160
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 4: But I saw you want to do interview with the

1161
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 4: great fellow go Andre Martinez.

1162
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: Yes, speaking on us, expect you have for another light.

1163
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 4: Ski came and mentioned earlier Drake though, right, so did

1164
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 4: that standard up like you speaks to that about how

1165
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 4: like the same thing with you.

1166
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: It's like, is this guy hip hop?

1167
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: Is?

1168
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: It's got R and B, but it's just great music,

1169
00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: right and be so assistent.

1170
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 5: Man, I feel like Drake is Drake is one of

1171
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 5: those people who uh, have have just mastered the effect

1172
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 5: of being able to tackle all aspects, whether it's R

1173
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 5: and B, whether it's you know, whether it's R and B,

1174
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 5: whether it's hip hop, whether it's pop, Like he do

1175
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 5: it all, he do everything, eats afro, beats everything. You

1176
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 5: get what I'm saying, and I want people to know,

1177
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 5: like always. I remember, like a few years back, I

1178
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 5: I I used to tell people like like, I'm kind

1179
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 5: of like the drake of of my generation.

1180
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: Mm uh, and people used to laugh at me. And

1181
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 2: I ain't really think nothing of it.

1182
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 5: I ain't really care for it, but it was just

1183
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 5: like a way of me explaining, like everybody got a lane, yeah,

1184
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 5: but except for me. Like I look at myself as

1185
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 5: like I'm I'm this artist that's in the six lane

1186
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 5: highway and I'm able to step in whatever lane I

1187
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 5: want to, Yanna, I'm on a six lane highway and

1188
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 5: I could get in whatever lane I want to at

1189
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 5: any time. M Like I could rap with the best

1190
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 5: of 'em, and I can make melodic songs. So I

1191
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 5: f like we artists that's in my generation. It's not

1192
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 5: many that could do that. And when I say like

1193
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 5: rap with the best of them, I really mean like rap,

1194
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 5: Like I grew up listening to uh like listening to

1195
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 5: to to the Meek Mel on the Corner freestyles and

1196
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 5: and read Dollars and ride a mez And I grew

1197
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 5: up on all of that battle videos.

1198
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I grew up on all of that.

1199
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: So it's like.

1200
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 5: Before I was out here doing them a lot of stuff.

1201
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 5: That's what I was doing. I rapped with the best

1202
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 5: of them, and and and I could see a little bit.

1203
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 5: I ain't no, I ain't no, uh, I ain't no

1204
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 5: no no John Legend, but.

1205
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 2: I do a little bit, you know.

1206
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 3: So, Yeah, when did the shift happen for you? From

1207
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: like doing that traditional listen?

1208
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: I went on tour with some Walker and I'm like, yo,

1209
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: like somemer Walker concerts. If you've ever been to a

1210
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: Summer Walker concert, It's a million beautiful girls in the crowd,

1211
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I love this, feel me. I need

1212
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: this every day of my life.

1213
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 5: Something has to change. If I keep rapping about these

1214
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 5: guns and oh got you feel me? I'm like, if

1215
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 5: I keep rapping about this stuff, first off, I gotta

1216
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 5: live up to this stuff. I ain't trying to do

1217
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 5: this forever, you know, what I'm saying, I live up

1218
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 5: to this stuff. The life expect to see for this

1219
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 5: is I don't know. It ain't looking too good. A

1220
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 5: lot of these niggas done and nah, look.

1221
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: This is like, what twenty seventeen, It's.

1222
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 5: Like twenty seventeen, No, not even that far that far back?

1223
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 5: How winner was the twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen, No, twenty eighteen,

1224
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 5: twenty eighteen, yeah, twenty year yeah, so twenty eighteen, yeah,

1225
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 5: this was twenty eighteen. I'm like, nah, like this ain't

1226
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 5: feel me right before the pandemic boom. I want to

1227
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 5: switch this shit up. I'm like, all right, So I

1228
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 5: started like and then I always been like you know

1229
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 5: what I mean, even though I come from the projects,

1230
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 5: I always been like that loving boy type of dude.

1231
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: Like I always been like that hopeless romantic.

1232
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 5: And I mean the kid that the kid that flirt

1233
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 5: with the older women. And I mean my mom used

1234
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 5: to call me. She used to say I was manish,

1235
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So I mean, I like,

1236
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 5: after going on tour with some Walker, I'm like, yo,

1237
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 5: it's a million beautiful girls in the concert at the

1238
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 5: concerts every day, sold out shows. They buying the merch

1239
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 5: the march selling out, like this is what I want. Like,

1240
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 5: if I'm gonna be doing this, I don't. I don't

1241
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 5: like the dude's gonna go wherever the women go. I need,

1242
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 5: I need a female fan base and I want it

1243
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 5: to be just a bunch of females, beautiful young ladies

1244
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 5: who loved me. And that's what I'm gonna go for.

1245
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 5: And ever since then, you know, pretty girls love Toussie.

1246
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 5: You know that's that's what we pushing.

1247
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: P G L T.

1248
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 1: Walker crowd told him switch to Stylar.

1249
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 5: And then the love I was getting it was it

1250
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 5: was crazy because like the first concert was actually in La.

1251
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 5: It was terrible because I had just came off tour

1252
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 5: with the baby. I'm like, I don't know how to

1253
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 5: perform for it like a bunch of women. I'm throwing

1254
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 5: water in the crowd. I'm I'm messing up makeup.

1255
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 1: Lash.

1256
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no, so I next, sure, I had

1257
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 2: to tighten it up. Now I'm out there, you know,

1258
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: no shirt down with the roses.

1259
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 5: Shit got a little different, she got a little different,

1260
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 5: but it was for it was for a better cause.

1261
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 5: Though now we you know, now we we're doing what

1262
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 5: we're doing. We got a core fanbase and I appreciate them.

1263
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 5: I love them to death.

1264
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: Right, you could always still bom them up if they

1265
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: get out a lot.

1266
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1267
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, they know it though. The ones who was around

1268
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 5: since the jump, they know, Like I started off rapping,

1269
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 5: I wasn't I wasn't making love songs.

1270
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1271
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1272
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 3: Speaking of the ladies, there was a moment on the

1273
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 3: album that really stood out to me, just talking about

1274
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 3: how when you were young and you were raped and

1275
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 3: it's like an older woman took advantage of you.

1276
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1277
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, when I was when I was a little

1278
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: bit younger.

1279
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 3: And at what point did you realize it's like that

1280
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 3: was sexual assault.

1281
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 2: Not to not honestly the scared, because I ain't. I

1282
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 2: didn't notice until I got about eighteen. Until I got

1283
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: eighteen and and it really got either what like what

1284
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: was going on? I kind of thought it was okay, right,

1285
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: and I mean it's sad, but you know with men,

1286
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: they don't look at it like that. You know, with men,

1287
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 2: they look at it like, nigbe what you are? You

1288
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: did something with the older woman and you told somebody,

1289
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: which I ain't never tell nobody.

1290
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1291
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 5: I just kind of like took it out'm chatting and

1292
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 5: moved on. So yeah, I don't know. I feel like

1293
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 5: that played it. That played a big part in who

1294
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 5: I am today too, why I love miss so much

1295
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,479
Speaker 5: and why, Like I mean, at a young age, that's

1296
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 5: that's what I was introduced to it.

1297
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 3: So yeah, was it like a family friend or so?

1298
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: And I won't even I won't even a family friend,

1299
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 2: damn all right?

1300
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 4: Was that vulnerability thing of like tell that for a while?

1301
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 4: Was it something you had to get off your chest

1302
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 4: or something he wasn't ready to tell.

1303
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think it was something I had to

1304
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 5: get out on my chest. And I feel like what

1305
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 5: better time to do it than put it on my

1306
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 5: debut album?

1307
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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: How proud of you of this album?

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Speaker 2: Man? Man?

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Speaker 4: Because you know they're gonna say, now, this guy's a

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Speaker 4: big hit person, like sitting with his full body of work, like,

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Speaker 4: explain what you tap in with this album that makes

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00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 4: you feel so proud of Not with the success of

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Speaker 4: the song, they're still gonna see how timeed you truly.

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Speaker 5: Are I'm very proud no matter the outcome, Like, no

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Speaker 5: matter no matter if they would have loved it or

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Speaker 5: if they would have hated it, I'm proud of it

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Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, I told I

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Speaker 5: told my story, and that's what I got into the

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Speaker 5: game to do, to tell my story. So you know,

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Speaker 5: one great project don't make you nobody and one bad

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00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,919
Speaker 5: project don't make you nobody. You know, it's all about

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00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 5: it if you could do it twice.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 3: I saw you posted on Twitter. You said, artist, drop

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Speaker 3: one song and get stuck for it for the year,

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Speaker 3: then go missing. How are you planning on avoiding that?

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Speaker 5: I'm about to drop and then y'all gonna get a tour,

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Speaker 5: and then after this tour you're gonna get another drop,

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Speaker 5: and then after that tour, you're gonna get another I don't.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be that artist that make one song

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Speaker 5: and then you know, uh, one song and then I'm

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Speaker 5: a chill for I'm a chill for a.

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Speaker 2: Year or two years.

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Speaker 5: And it's like, Yo, we live in a generation where

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00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 5: artists coming out every day. Yeah, I mean it's artists

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00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 5: coming out every day. If you think they finn wait

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Speaker 5: on you to drop music for a year, you lost

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Speaker 5: them ale, you know, so I ain't.

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Speaker 2: I ain't that. I ain't on that point. I'm at

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Speaker 2: a point where like, I'm gonna continue to put out

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Speaker 2: great music and whatever the people choose, that's what we're

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00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 2: gonna put our foot out.

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Speaker 1: Right, You're willing to do more than the next artist.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeahs death, most death. I feel like that's what

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00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 5: you know, that's what That's what the two times stand for.

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00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 5: You know, I got everybody in my everybody in my

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00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 5: campaign two times tattered on them with you know, two

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00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 5: times changed, and then two times just standing for you know,

1350
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 5: they say, they say, when you sleeping, it's already somebody

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00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 5: who working two times as hard as you. That's what

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00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 5: we that's what we stand for, working two times as

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Speaker 5: hard as the next person.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: I guess it's like that fear of kin going back

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00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 3: to where you came from.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we ain't going back right now. We can't go back.

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Speaker 5: And I don't even foresee myself. I don't even know

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Speaker 5: what it's like to go back.

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Speaker 3: You still have some things on your bucket list, right,

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00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 3: you still want to win that Grammy?

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00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna win a Grammy. I

1363
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 5: don't listen, man, what I don't I don't know, man.

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Speaker 5: I feel like we put out one of the one

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00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 5: of the best songs this year if not the best,

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Speaker 5: and I don't know, like I'm I'm, I'm firing my net.

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Speaker 2: I believe it. So I want that Grammy and I'm

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Speaker 2: manifested and.

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Speaker 1: Then number one album.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the number one album. That's gonna be hard

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Speaker 5: to do, but we're gonna, We're gonna push though.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Ye, I'm a realist. I don't want

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01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: the number one album.

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Speaker 5: But it steps to everything, you know, I mean, you know,

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01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 5: without it being steps, it's like a pyramid with nothing

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01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 5: at the bottom. You know, it's just it's gonna collapse.

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01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 5: And I ain't no overnight success. So with being a realist,

1378
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 5: people say, oh, you gotta believe in yourself. Y'all believe

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01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 5: in myself. But I'm a realist. I'm not gonna lie

1380
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 5: to myself to tell myself. I'm not gonna be delusion

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01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 5: on tell myself. Now, I'm gonna get a number one album. Yeah,

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01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 5: if we catch three records at one time on for

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01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 5: this one album, like nah, the chances of it happening small.

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01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 5: You got Dirk out work and Wild still doing like

1385
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 5: a hundred and something a week, like Taylor Swift just

1386
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 5: dropped a Deluxe to her project, like it's too much

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01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 5: going on, you know what I'm saying.

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01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: I'll be a realist.

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01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 5: So at the end of the day, we don't push

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01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 5: this project and We're gonna continue to slowly grow until

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01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 5: I am able to compete with the best of them.

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01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 5: And when I am able to compete with the best

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01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 5: of them, See, the music is there, the fan base

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01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 5: is not there yet. When the fan base is there.

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01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: But they're growing every day.

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01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: They growing every day.

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01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 5: I went from a meal I used to have, like

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01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 5: like maybe ten weeks ago, I had a million million

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01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 5: of Spotify listeners. Huh million seven Spotify listeners. I'm at

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01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 5: about eight point something now yeah, how long?

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01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: How much time?

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01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 2: Like ten weeks?

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01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: Ten weeks?

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01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, like ten weeks.

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01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 5: So like slowly growing and I ain't in no rush

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01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 5: to getting them.

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01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm not in no rush to get nowhere. Man, you

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01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I'm slow, slow and steady. Right.

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01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 3: Tell Terence to take that to the bank, right.

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01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tell Terrence to take that to the bank.

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01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 3: Man.

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01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: Who is this Terrence guy? Talk about them on Terrence?

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01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 5: Terrence is uh a guy my mom used to mess

1414
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 5: with uh and not I mean I don't know. You know,

1415
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 5: when you're younger, you don't really know what's going on.

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01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 5: I think my mom used to mess but uh, it

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01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 5: was a guy we was living with for a while,

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01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 5: and and yeah, like he wanted to be with my

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01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 5: mom and she, I guess she really ain't want to

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01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 5: be with him. Well, he was homeless. He let us

1421
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 5: live with them, and it ain't work out. He put

1422
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 5: us out and we was living was living in our

1423
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 5: van for a little bit, living in a motel, trying

1424
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 5: to figure it out. So yeah, man, tell Terrence, take

1425
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 5: that to the bank, Terrence, take a hike. What a gentleman? Yeah, asshole?

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01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 5: Yeah man, well for real, but it was life changing though.

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01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 5: It played a big part of me getting where I'm

1428
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 5: at today.

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01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: The consistency is key, man continued successful.

1430
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 3: You keep taking the time, and he's stacking off that money. Man, Listen,

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01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 3: I don't want you to lose a million dollars in

1432
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 3: the casino no more.

1433
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was finished. I don't want I

1434
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 2: thought you was finna. I want you to lose a

1435
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 2: million dollars already did I already did that? Man?

1436
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 3: How did you losing one point two to be exactly

1437
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 3: the casina.

1438
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: What was you playing back?

1439
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 2: Why he did so much research? Bro, it's the right

1440
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 2: friend up podcast? Man, I beat out man, Bro, listen

1441
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 2: back cry Bro it was yeah, I'm telling you, Bro. Listen,

1442
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 2: you got eyes of the casino. We must have spoke

1443
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 2: to my host. Bro. Man, I'm telling you it was rough. Bro.

1444
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 2: That was a rough day. Damn rough day. But you know,

1445
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 2: I man Mizili, you see, you know who We came

1446
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: back though, We came back, so we and we here

1447
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 2: today and you know one point two ain't nothing.

1448
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: One point two Yeah, plain ball dollar. She's getting the

1449
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: next rollie. That's the little Valie back.

1450
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 2: Word.

1451
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, you keep living, Tucie.

1452
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: I appreciate you.

1453
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: Listen, sir, Man. Rap rate our podcasts. Yeah.

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01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,600
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01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:19,200
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01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,600
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01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,360
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