WEBVTT - Hell Week For Golf with Tisha Alyn 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.080 Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where I just 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:05.800 arrived in Arizona for the She Believes Cup with the 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:09.600 cide of Cubs Baseball and it's Sonny in seventy five degrees, 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:12.320 no snow insight, I've got my sun screen on and 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:17.240 oh sorry, Mishan Alex. I would bottle up some sunshine 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:21.000 if I could. It's Friday, February twenty first. On today's show, 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.439 we'll be chatting with Tisha Allen, former pro golfer and 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.800 host of Iheart's Welcome to the Party podcast about how 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:28.920 she got her start as a golfer, getting to preach 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:31.280 her love of golf to half a million Insta followers, 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:33.600 and why golf lags behind the other sports when it 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:37.400 comes to women's empowerment and activism. Plus No Dumb Questions, 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:42.000 LPGA Tour Edition and NWSL Denver's asking for your help. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:44.360 We remember a tennis pro who traded a racket for 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.200 a bag of clubs, and Flage Johnson get some well 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:48.040 deserved flowers. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:49.720 It's all coming up right after this. 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.720 Welcome Back, Happy Friday slices. Here's what you need to 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:08.199 know today in tennis news. Venus Williams the first black 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:10.280 woman to achieve a number one ranking in the Open 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.240 era is hitting the court again. The seven time Grand 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.160 Slam singles winner hasn't played in a WTA event since 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:18.600 last March, but she's been granted a wild card to 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:23.360 compete in the BNP Paribus Open in Indian Wells, California. 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:23.880 Starting on March fifth. 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.240 This will be the forty four year old second straight 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.039 year competing at the event. She received a wildcard last 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.120 year too, but she lost in the first round. This 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.440 is the same tournament you remember that Williams and her 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:37.240 sister Serena boycotted for fourteen years. Yeah, in case you 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.759 weren't tapped in then, Serena played and won the two 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:43.000 thousand and one tournament final against Kim Cleister's in front 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.119 of a crowd that directed racial slurs and booze. 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:46.600 At her and her family. 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.480 Venus is currently ranked number nine hundred and seventy four 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:51.960 in the world, but she's a legend in every sense 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.960 of the word. In footy news, the Denver NWSL club 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.760 is asking fans to help name the team. The Colorado 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.800 franchise announced it's name the club campaign on Wednesday and 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.120 released a short list of six names to choose from. 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:07.840 They include Denver Peak FC, Colorado fourteen Ers FC, Colorado 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:13.200 Summit FC, Denver ELEVATEFC, Denver FC, and Denver gold FC. 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:15.760 Fans can cast a vote for their favorite at Denver 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.960 NWSL dot com slash name. We'll be sure to throw 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.240 that link at our show notes. And hey, if you're 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.079 a rebel and you don't like any of those choices, 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.239 there's also a right in option. More footy news, there's 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.919 an NWSL docu series on the way. Prime Video released 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:33.120 the trailer and key art for for the Win NWSL, 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.959 a four part series premier in March sixth that grants 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.040 viewers access to the twenty twenty four NWSL playoffs via 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:43.240 some of the league's biggest stars, exclusive interviews, locker room access, 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.079 match highlight throughout helping paint the picture of the race 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.160 of the championship in Kansas City. We'll link to the 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.920 trailer in our show notes. In international soccer, Luis Rubiellis, 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.200 former president of Spain's football federation, has been convicted of 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.600 sexual assault for forcibly kissing Spanish national team player Jenny 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.240 Hermoso on the lips during the team's twenty twenty three 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.880 World Cup trophy ceremony. Prosecutors pushed for a one year sentence, 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:06.840 but when the verdict came down, the forty seven year 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.440 old Rubialis was ordered to not go within two hundred 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.239 meters of thirty four year old Hermoso or contactor for 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:15.320 a year. He was also fined ten thousand euros about 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.880 ten thousand, four hundred and thirty seven US dollars. The 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:21.600 court also ruled on accusations of coercion. So Rubialis plus 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:25.040 the team's former head coach Jorge Vilda, former Federation sporting 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:28.560 director Albert Luke, and former marketing chief Ruben Rivera were 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:32.080 also accused of pressuring Hermoso into claiming the kiss was consensual. 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.720 Prosecutors initially sought an eighteen month sentence for coercion, but 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.760 all four men were acquitted. After the ordeal took place 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.600 in twenty twenty three, FIFA banned Rubialis from all national 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.800 and international soccer activities for three years. That band is 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:48.640 said to expire in twenty twenty six. More international soccer, 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.240 the She Believes Cup continues over the weekend. There are 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.360 two games Sunday at State Farm Stadium in Glendale. Arizona. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.120 First Columbia versus Japan at two pm Eastern, then the 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:00.920 US Women's national team versus the Matilda's of Australia Eastern. 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.840 You can catch both those matchups on TBS and streaming 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:07.440 on Max, with Spanish language broadcasts available on NBC Universo 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.760 and Peacock. Oh and shout out to friend of the show, 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.600 Becky Souerbrun, who recently retired and came over to the 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.600 dark side. She's working as media for the tournament and 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:19.760 made her broadcast debut yesterday on TBS. In Pro Hoops, 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.880 Marina Maybrey became the center of attention after news broke 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:26.120 that the Connecticut s soun denied her trade request. Mayby 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:28.880 made the ask earlier this month, and her agent, Marcus Crenshaw. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.679 The FAM agency, gave ESPNS Alexa Philip Who a statement 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.080 about the franchise's decision on Tuesday. It reads, in part quote, 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.680 in this current age of women's empowerment and support of 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.520 the players, the Connecticut Sun threatening to force Marina Maybrey 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.160 to play for them after her trade request is mind boggling. 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.719 He continued, Why would anyone try to force someone to 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:46.360 play on their team? 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:47.400 When they don't want to be there. 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.880 It's counterproductive in a ton of ways, and everyone we've 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.880 spoken to is perplexed about how they are handling Marina 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.560 after trading away Hall of Fame caliber players end quote, Yeah, 0:04:56.640 --> 0:05:00.120 you remember, Connecticut's roster looks very different this offseason. The 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.920 team notably traded Elisa Thomas, Dewana Bonner, and Bree Jones, 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.200 who were all key pieces during a stretch of five 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.080 seasons where the Sun made it to the WNBA semi finals. 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.320 Or further, Connecticut acquired Maybury in a shocking trade with 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.080 Chicago last season, giving up their twenty twenty five first 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.880 round pick, a twenty twenty six pick swap, and guards 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.359 Rachel Bannon and Mariah Jefferson. Connecticut's Sun president Jen Rizzotti 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:24.440 made her own bold statement after denying Maybury's trade request, 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.320 telling Sportico quote, we knew at the time she had 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.159 already forced her way out of two teams, so it 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.159 was a bit risky for us to trade for her, 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:33.720 but we felt like it was worth it. 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:34.520 End quote. 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.159 Rizzotti also noted that the franchise has a desire to 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.520 build around Maybury, considering her versatile offensive talent. She told 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:42.719 ESPN that it quote wasn't in our best interest to 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:44.560 move her because of the value that we gave up together, 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.679 but also that we place on her end quote. Maybury 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.120 played twenty four games with the Sky before being traded, 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.520 and in sixteen games with the Sun, she averaged fourteen 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.920 point nine points, three point five rebounds, and three point 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.680 four assists. Speaking of the Sun, I don't want to 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:59.839 stir up any more drama, but could the franchise be 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:03.080 on the move? After the Sun sold out game in 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.840 Boston last season, some folks from Beantown suggest that the 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.120 team would be better off in their city and now. 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.960 According to Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe, an ownership 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.039 group led by actor singer Donnie Wahlberg and former NBA 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.760 player Michael Carter Williams, both Boston Burbs natives, is planning 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.600 to prepare an offer for a WNBA expansion team. There's more, though, 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.960 esp Nations Noah Dalzel spoke to Carter Williams, who said 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.440 his group is open to purchasing an existing team like 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.320 the Connecticut Sun. Of course, the Sun would need to 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.159 be willing sellers. We'll keep you updated on that story. 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.840 To college hoops a big ESPN tripleheader is headed our 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.839 way on Sunday. Five ranked programs take the court starting 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.000 at noon Easter with number one Notre Dame at number 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:46.679 thirteen NC State. Then it's number nine North Carolina at Louisville, 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.840 followed by number seven LSU at number fourteen Kentucky. There 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.880 are thirteen other top twenty five teams playing that day too, 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.159 so we'll link to the full schedule in our show notes. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.159 Make your viewing plan or set your DVR now do 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.440 people still do DVR? I still do DBAs I'm old. Also, 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.279 number five Yukon plays Butler tomorrow, and we're on Pagebecker's 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.760 watch because she continues to make her way up Yukon's 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.920 all time scores list. On Wednesdays, she passed Dinah Tarassi 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.240 in the record books by scoring her two thousand, one 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:16.200 hundred and fifty eighth point. She's now ninth on the list, 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.400 and she's got three games left in the regular season, 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.360 needs just twenty one more points to surpass Carrie Bascomb's 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.760 twenty one seventy seven and Nikisha Sales and Kalina Mesgado 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:25.880 Lewis's twenty. 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:26.440 One seventy eight. 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.680 We'll keep an eye on her all right, This one's 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.920 for all you ruggers out there. Women's Elite Rugby is 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.920 almost here. The new league announced its game schedule and 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:37.160 complete rosters for season one this week. The regular season 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.240 starts on May twenty second in New York with a 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.280 match between the New York Exiles and Boston Banshees. The 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:45.560 season we'll run for roughly three months, concluding on June fourteenth. 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:47.640 We'll link to the full schedule along with the roster 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.640 announcements in the show notes. And if you didn't hear it, 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:52.960 go back and listen to our January episode giving you 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.559 the full one oh one on this new league. Also, 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:57.920 you know the protocol, go choose which team you're riding with. 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:59.800 It's always more fun when you got some skin in 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:03.240 the game. At Rugby Evolved and Women's Elite Rugby dot 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:04.560 us is where to find him. 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:05.880 And in pro vibes. 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.080 The PVF All Star Game takes place tomorrow in Indianapolis. 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.440 More than ten thousand fans voted on who they wanted 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.400 to see, and now twenty four of the league's best 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.120 players will take center stage at Fisher's Event Center. They'll 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.360 be led by two active college coaching icons Michelle Collier, 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.840 who's entering her twelve year as head coach at Georgia Tech, 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:25.160 and Dave Shandell, who's guided Purdue since two thousand and three. 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.760 The match will be available live on CBS Sports and 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.000 streaming on Paramount Plus at one thirty Eastern. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:30.800 Don't miss it. 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.280 We'll link to where you can find the match and 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:33.880 ticket info in our show notes. 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:36.120 Some pretty awesome pop culture news. 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.520 Time magazine released its twenty twenty five Women of the 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.960 Year honorees, and Asia Wilson and Jordan Chiles made the list. Now, 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.120 we're a little confused about why we're announcing Women of 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.359 the Year for the year twenty twenty five in February, 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.760 but that's neither here nor there. We're just excited for 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.360 Asia and Jordan. If you don't already know from listening 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.120 to our show, we're big fans of both. 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.560 Here's a little refresher on their brilliance. 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.760 Wilson is a two time WNBA Champ, three time MVP, 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.360 six time All Star, two tu time Olympic gold medalist. 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.480 She just revealed her a one signature Nike sneaker, and 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:05.840 she's got a best selling book. 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.800 Dear Black Girls available on shelves everywhere. 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.719 Chiles is a team USA gymnast with Olympic gold and 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.920 silver medals who routinely destroys her competition as a member 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.680 of the UCLA gymnastics team, and has a memoir titled 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:19.160 I'm That Girl, set to release in March. We'll link 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:20.960 to the time story and the video about the pair 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:21.840 in our show notes. 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:25.839 We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:27.400 we're chatting with Tisha all In. 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:29.880 But first a quick note on some new LPGA rules 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.320 that actually were announced the same day that we chatted 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.520 with Tish so. In an effort to speed up play 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.080 on the tour, the LPGA recently announced a new pace 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.720 of play policy that calls for a fine friendy golfer 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.000 who's one to five seconds over there allotted time on 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.800 a whole for those six to fifteen seconds over a 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.840 one stroke penalty, and a two stroke penalty for those 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.520 sixteen seconds over a more. The new rules go into 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.400 effect starting at the Ford Championship on March twenty seventh. 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:55.680 Golfers are still going to get warned and timed before 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.800 find some stroke penalties are levied. Last year's LPGA player 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.040 of the Year. Nelly Cortas said she's very excited about 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:01.600 the change. 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:02.240 End quote. 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.160 I think that implementing harsh rules is going to be 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:05.839 good for the game of golf. They were saying at 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:07.040 the meeting. At the end of the day, we're a 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.600 form of entertainment. If we're taking really long out there, 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:11.240 I mean, that's not entertaining. 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:13.599 End quote. More on Nelly Corda. 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:14.920 And who else to watch on tour this year when 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.280 we tea off with Tisha Allin next. 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:24.719 Joining us now. 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.400 She's a former professional golfer, host of the Welcome to 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.400 the Party podcast here on iHeart Women's Sports, a professional 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:34.040 speaker and social media star, A passionate advocate for junior golf, 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.040 women's sports and the LGBTQ plus community. She loves a 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.040 TikTok dance and she can do some mean tricks with 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:43.679 a club of ball and two feet. It's Tisha Allin, Hi, Tisha, Hi, Sarah. 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:44.840 It's so good to meet you. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.080 I know, we were at the same conference in New 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.199 York and I was watching you flip around some balls 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.480 from Afar, but we never actually got to chat's and 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.280 now you're part of the team, So welcome to the 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:54.760 iHeart Women's Sports Podcast. 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:55.679 FAM. Thank you. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.120 It's very exciting. It's a new world for me. I 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:02.520 am learning a lot. I commend you for just you 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:04.680 just turn and burn this kind of stuff. 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:07.400 It's a lot, daily shows, a lot. 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:09.440 But we're happy to be here for the people and 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:11.280 we're glad you're here because we have a lot of 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.319 questions about golf. But before we get to our burning 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.480 questions about the LPG and the new season, I want 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.320 to know more about your story and particularly how you 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.720 get to half a million Insta followers, dancing, doing tricks 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.520 and sharing your love of golf. So let's go back 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.840 to the beginning. You were born in Rockford, Illinois, which 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:27.960 you grew up in Cali. How did you first get 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:28.839 started playing golf? 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.320 So, actually, my dad got me into the game, and 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.280 we got into the game at the same time, so 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.000 it was kind of like our means of just bonding. 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:37.960 He was a stay at home dad at the time, 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:39.880 and he'd go to the range bring me with him. 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.800 I'm three years old, and from that moment on, I 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.960 never stopped swinging a club. So I literally don't have 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.439 a memory where I wasn't a golfer. I don't know 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.840 what life is like without golf. It's pretty crazy. 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.960 Oh cool, yeah, yeah, So how does he feel about 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.880 the fact that I guarantee you can absolutely trounce him 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.000 in golf, Like you started at the same time and 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:00.440 you're infinitely better, I presume. 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.680 Yeah. I actually started beating him, I think at nine 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.480 years old, so it really wasn't that much longer that 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:07.920 I started to to kind of catch up with him. 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:09.480 And then after that he just kind of became my 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:10.960 coach and he was cool with it. He would just 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.080 literally watch what he saw on TV. He'd like watch 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.360 tigers swing and be like, Okay, I think it's what 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:16.679 you need to do. So we were both just kind 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.280 of like doing it like on the fly, you know. 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.920 But he accepts that that I beat him, and on 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.120 occasions when we do play now, he'll see me hit 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.920 a shot and he's like wow, and I'm like, ye, dad, 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:29.280 you grew you grew up watching me do this, and 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:31.000 it just like amazes him, and I think it's really 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.360 it's a really cute kind of like full circle to 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.280 be like this is where he introduced me, and now 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:38.959 I'm able to make a living, not professionally anymore, but 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:40.680 you know still very much around the game. 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:43.400 That's really sweet. And I bet I don't have kids, 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.440 but I bet it is true. Like when the kid 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:46.920 that you taught how to do something beat to you, 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:47.959 instead of being mad. 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:49.880 You're just like, I did that. Yeah, yeah, I made that. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.800 So you played golf at cal State Fullerton. There isn't 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.480 a draft for the LPGA, so unlike other sports, you 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.120 sort of have to like know and feel ready to 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.760 go pro and also so qualify. So what's that process. 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:03.920 Yes, it's a great question, and I think it's a 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:07.240 really it's a big differentiator between other sports. Right because 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.040 we don't have a draft, it's really up to you 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.880 to be like, yo, I think I'm good enough. All right, 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.079 let's go do this thing. How do I do this thing? Oh, 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.560 you have to fund yourself. It's truly all up to you. Really. 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.320 The bottom line is that you do have to have 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.040 a certain handicap, which is essentially like a certain level 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:25.480 of playability. You have to be a decent enough golfer 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.520 to apply, and if you score too high on these 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.520 qualifying tournaments to qualify you as a pro, you can't 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.520 go back. So you can't like lie about this stuff. Basically. 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.720 But essentially there's a few different ways you can turn professionally. 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:41.000 But literally, you can graduate college and you can say, hey, 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.000 I'm declaring myself as a professional. And really the biggest 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.920 difference is that you're now getting paid to play. So 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.760 the moment that you try and enter a tournament for money, 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:53.160 you are now a professional. Doesn't matter if it's a 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.240 minor league event, a major league event, you know, even 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.400 just any place where it's a it's a sanctioned tournament 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.480 and you can win money, you are now a professional. 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:04.679 So even if you don't win money, even if you 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.800 don't win money, but you entered into a tournament, you 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.240 technically are professional. But like a lot of people won't 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.640 declare themselves that until maybe they see a paycheck out 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:12.640 of like their own pride. 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.760 You know, you could go back to amateurs at that 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.120 point if you haven't won. But once you've won some money, 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:18.160 then officially you're. 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.600 Yes, exactly, you're officially a pro. You can deem amateur 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.840 status bags some people still like to do that. I 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.720 never have, so I'm still considered a professional. I just 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:30.960 haven't competed in a more legitimate event since twenty eighteen. 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:32.920 That's kind of when I put the bag down. But 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.480 the actual qualifying process, there's a thing called Q School 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.080 or a Q Series that they keep changing the name, 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.680 and it's kind of like Hell Week. It's three different 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.080 huge ass tournaments and you have to basically beat out 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.560 like five hundred girls, go to second stage, beat out 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.200 two hundred and fifty of the best girls, go to 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.000 final stage, beat out one hundred of the best girls, 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.600 and only top twenty get their card, like. 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.600 And then you do a kechstand and then that's it. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.240 And then that's it, and then you're back on the 0:14:58.280 --> 0:14:58.640 road again. 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:03.080 You're ready to go, uh Hell Week for golf? Okay, wow, okay? 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.320 And then can you get funding from sponsors or other 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.200 folks early on to help you fund this, like you said, 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.200 if you're just starting out and not winning anything. 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.720 Yet, absolutely, And so I think the beauty but also 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.040 the difficulty of it is is that it's all up 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.600 to you. It's up to you to self promote yourself. 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:24.200 If you get a sponsor, amazing, that's that's all on you. 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.520 And one of the hardest things coming out of college 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.600 because that's typically the traditional process. Some people, some women, 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.480 some men have gone professionally before not even going to college, 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:37.000 but typically you go to college. It's it's really just 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:40.520 like trying to showcase yourself, whether it's on social media 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:45.880 or getting creating you know, partnerships and relationships with people, 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.760 and really just having good game to be recognized, to 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:52.960 get sponsors, and it's not easy when you're not on 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.440 the LPGA Tour, which is the highest level. Right there's 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.200 like a minor, middle, and major leagues. It's the way 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.520 I like to explain it. The minor leagues are are 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.840 basically like the it's kind of like entry level tournaments. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:05.920 It's to kind of get your feet wet. Then there's 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.000 like the middle leagues, which is considered it's called the 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:11.520 Epsoen Tour or Ladies European Tour. And then there's LPGA. 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.560 Well those that are starting out from ground zero or 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.440 even on the EPSIN Tour, which is a really great tour. 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.880 These girls don't often get sponsors. It's not easy to 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.360 get noticed unless you're actually on the LPGA or you 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:28.800 have some type of media value outside of your ability. Right, 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.360 So because women, you know, we actually we have to 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:34.280 care about the way we look, how we present ourselves 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.800 on top of our ability. It is a double edged 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.600 sword in my opinion, compared to men's sports. 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.160 Right, So, did you always know you wanted to get 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:46.640 into media and were you simultaneously building your media presence 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:48.560 before retiring, like while you were playing. 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.760 Yes and yes. So when I went to CALCA Fullerton, 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:53.760 I was there on a D one scholarship. I played 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.960 number one. My college coach was a former LPGA player. 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.640 I knew that I always wanted to try and professionally, 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:05.199 but I fell in love with broadcasts and speaking at 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.479 a younger age, like eighth grade, you know, high school. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.480 I was doing my my newscast for my high school 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.600 and all that stuff like that. I got an internship 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.879 with like ABC when I was in college, and I 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:20.240 have a broadcast journalism degree in communications, And so for me, 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.320 I knew that if there came a time that professional 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.840 golf wasn't it for me. I always wanted to talk 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.320 about golf. But at the same time, when I graduated, 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.200 which was in twenty fifteen, I said I'm going to 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.600 turn pro. And then I said, oh shit, how am 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.679 I going to afford to turn pro? Well, there's this 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.960 thing called Instagram. Now I guess I should probably showcase 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.120 myself and let's see what happens. It was very very 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.760 new at the time. The word creator or influencer was 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.119 never a thing, and in my opinion, not something I 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.399 ever wanted to call myself because I'm a professional golfer. 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:52.720 At the end of the day, I was just using 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.840 this thing as a tool to hopefully, you know, if 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:58.159 I got just one view from someone who wanted to 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.159 sponsor me, and maybe they liked my swing, maybe they 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.640 saw my scores, it can mean something. And then that's 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.440 actually what happened. And then I kept growing and growing 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.159 and growing from there. So I didn't wake up with 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.080