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Speaker 1: I know we talked about the Luca trade on a

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Speaker 1: prior episode, when I don't think we've talked about all

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Speaker 1: the events that ensued for Dallas after that trade and

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Speaker 1: how unfortunate it's been.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just age really really poorly. It's still early.

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Speaker 2: I mean you think.

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Speaker 1: For Dallas sike, Yes, I mean sure, if they have

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Speaker 1: a ten year outlook, it's too But would you say

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Speaker 1: this season is chalked.

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Speaker 2: Like if you're a d do you suit up one

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Speaker 2: more time? Ad wants to suit up? I just read

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Speaker 2: that eighty wants to suit up. I'm just glad I'm

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Speaker 2: not in that the decision making process. Yeah, it's just

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Speaker 2: would you suit up? If you round me?

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Speaker 3: I mean they're they're still in kind of like the

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Speaker 3: playoff picture, right, where are that? Yeah? I think it

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Speaker 3: depends where they are in the standings. I know in

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Speaker 3: the West Conference eleven, yeah, I think it's probably at

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Speaker 3: the present time. Yeah, but like the West, I mean

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Speaker 3: it's you win one game to go from eleven to eighth.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I just think it depends on where

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Speaker 3: when I'm ready to get back and I'm healthy, where

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Speaker 3: where we are I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Brother, the reason I feel for I feel for Nico Harrison, right,

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Speaker 1: because you make that trade and already he's getting he's

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Speaker 1: getting flat from making the trade. But there's a word

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Speaker 1: where you make the trade, you have a healthy a

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Speaker 1: d a healthy Kyrie uh lively back everyone basically everyone

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Speaker 1: comes back and then they have like a solid sea

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Speaker 1: and they built for trades.

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Speaker 3: Are like for what they were going to do. They

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Speaker 3: had a good team, and it's just it's just.

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Speaker 2: Always playing.

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Speaker 3: It's not It wasn't a bad trade in the sense

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Speaker 3: of you know, assets. It was a bad trade in

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Speaker 3: terms of names and future and those kind of things.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, it wasn't a good trade.

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Speaker 3: Are we gonna act like eighty not eight eight the

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Speaker 3: top ten player? Yeah, we saw what the first first

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Speaker 2: All right, question for you, Would you do the trade?

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Speaker 3: Would I do the trade?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's what That's My only point was that you

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Speaker 1: can you can say what you want about the trade,

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Speaker 1: but the events after the trade that have ensued pretty

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Speaker 1: much make it undeniable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's when you can't can't predict. It's like

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Speaker 3: you can't predict, you know, Kyrie gonna go go down

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Speaker 3: with a seated season and injury. Live that gets hurt

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Speaker 3: right away. Gaffer gets hurt like PJ. Washington gets hurt,

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Speaker 3: like you can't much more. Player hurt too. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: like they they had a really bad month of injuries

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Speaker 3: and it's like you can't and.

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Speaker 2: Also doesn't help it, like the fans are like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: every time a player, Yeah, every time? Are the players

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Speaker 2: that the fe line there? Fire Nico? Like it's just

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just everything I think is a big

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Speaker 3: If those guys didn't get hurt, they would be probably

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Speaker 3: the narrative would be different. I don't think it would

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Speaker 3: be we love Nico, but it might not be fire

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Speaker 3: Nico every free throw. Maybe every other free throw or

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Speaker 3: every other trip to the line, but it wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: It's just it's a series of unfortunate events. Yeah, did

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Speaker 2: you ever read that book? Right now?

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking, I love that book. Serious, I

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Speaker 1: should say, let's talk about PJ. I feel like, rarely

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Speaker 1: do you see someone signed to attende and feel the

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Speaker 1: would you agree, like when you talk about the locker

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Speaker 3: I think so he's been great, uh, in terms of

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Speaker 3: But I know with him, he's been great for you know,

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Speaker 2: See the Hira k Force. Those are fire one of

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Speaker 2: A really good question.

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Speaker 1: Crazy I have a thought, but go ahead for the

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Speaker 1: Hurahi's b I think the Hurachis are more, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: with you more importantly Baylor one, they'd be Alabama one.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I need Cower State to beat Memphis. I

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Speaker 2: needed Baylor to lose Alwa State. It's gonna win. Win. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you reach picked a win. Did you didn't do a bracket?

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Speaker 3: I haven't even watched the game yet.

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Speaker 2: I picked the You picked the huh the Johnny's. Uh, listen, giants,

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Speaker 2: I didn't picked the Johnny's that. I'm going pretty far,

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Speaker 1: Obviously, Rick Patino has always been an amazing coach, right,

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Speaker 1: He's always been up there. But I feel like to

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Speaker 1: in terms of like elite college coaches, like, are you

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Speaker 3: No, m M, not at all. The thing I think

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Speaker 3: that's really cool about that is.

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Speaker 3: I got a little warm the way. I mean, you've

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Speaker 3: seen like little clips of him talking to his players,

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Speaker 3: and it's still that fiery Rick Patino, you know energy.

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Speaker 3: It's not like, you know, the climate obviously in in

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Speaker 2: He's still he's adjusted to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still doing a good job of, you know,

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Speaker 2: And from from the outside looking in, I feel like

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Speaker 2: E clipping him talking about him not recruiting high school players,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that was it's pretty wild. That's a pretty

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Speaker 2: wild statement. Just going straight to the portal, go straight

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Speaker 2: players want to use it to their advantage, all right, coaches,

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Speaker 1: He also said this team, for as well as they're doing,

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Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I mean, the more you win, I feel

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Speaker 2: like the bigger the budget, the bigger the budget. But

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Speaker 2: it's interesting. I mean as a as a coach, he

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Speaker 2: hasn't changed. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Rick Pontuno is the first head coach in Division on

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Speaker 1: history to win a regular season conference started with five

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean I think it

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Speaker 3: would go down. It is what I was just gonna say.

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Speaker 3: Obviously a top coach, but that's not sure. So first

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Top ten, Yeah for sure, But I was going to

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Speaker 3: say that, but top five I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, okay, name five? If you see

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Speaker 2: you don't know? Name five? Jay?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Who? Who?

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Speaker 3: John Wooden?

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Speaker 2: Okay too.

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Speaker 1: While we're going pretty far back, coach k the last

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Speaker 3: There's a couple of guys. I'm like, I don't think

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Speaker 3: I say Royd Williams, though.

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Speaker 2: I think he was a great recruiter, I wouldn't, No,

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Speaker 2: I would really a great recruiter Beheim Calhoun. I feel

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Speaker 2: there's world championships, Mark few, I think he cracks the

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Speaker 4: Oh he's not a top five, but Bill soph is

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Speaker 4: up there. Bill is a hell of a recruiter. I

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Speaker 4: thought about this a long time ago. I was ready

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Speaker 1: There was a period at one point in time I

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Speaker 1: think he might have ended his greatest bel had more

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Speaker 2: Who do so at one point? Yeah, yeah, damn crazy,

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Speaker 2: it's crazy. I actually, I actually at one point I

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Speaker 2: want to dive into that. I want to talk about

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Speaker 2: the best college coaches. I mean, I forgot who said

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Speaker 2: did I think, was James talk about where you would

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Speaker 2: have went without if you didn't go to the Nova.

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Speaker 3: I remember he asked me about it. Whould you say

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Speaker 3: it was either going to be Rutgers of Penn State.

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Speaker 3: I don't no one of them. Yeah, you would, You

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Speaker 3: wouldn't have been in the league. Was VCU up there

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Speaker 3: for you? You look like a VCU type of guarden. No.

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Speaker 3: I mean I took like a visit there, but they

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Speaker 3: would never.

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Speaker 2: They offered you. How many offers you have?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, like twenty twenty something all do you want? Well?

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Speaker 3: Were they? Yes? They all do one those one?

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Speaker 2: Juco didn't have any juke offers daily. You didn't have

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Speaker 2: any juke offers in sixth grade? Did you? No? I

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we're that there's people getting offers in

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Speaker 1: six or seventh grade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe seventh Woods. Seventh Woods for sure.

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Speaker 3: March Madness is back, Baby, go Nova.

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Speaker 2: You know what that means, Tommy Johnny can't protect against bracketbusters,

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Speaker 2: but with the limited edition tournament collection, they can guarantee

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Speaker 2: you a distraction free viewing experience all tournament long.

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Speaker 3: Avoid a backcourt violation with Wedgie proof underwear. No picks,

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Speaker 3: no rolls, no silky smooth, breathable, don't ride up and look.

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Speaker 2: They got a basketball and they made me feel confident.

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