1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk Nashville. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 2: Hey listeners, it's Sarah Harrelson, your host of Taking a 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: Walk Nashville. Happy July everyone. I have such a special 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: guest on today's episode. 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 3: I took a drive. 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: Down to Franklin, Tennessee, and took a walk into Steve 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: Warner's art studio in his home. So special. He invited 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: me in to see his works of art and we 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: talked about his music career and his current art exhibit. 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: It's at mont Haven Art and Cultural Center in Hendersonville, Tennessee. 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: The exhibit Flip Side Paintings by Steve Warner. It runs 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: through July twenty sixth, so definitely check it out if 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: you are in Nashville or Hendersonville. We talk about his 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: sixty works of art spanning thirty years, as well as 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: his music career. I got to see the art exhibit 16 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: as well. 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: And it's incredible. 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: He is such a genuine songwriter and musician. So I 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: hope you will join us for our conversation today. 20 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: Welcome to Taking a Walk Nashville with your host, singer 21 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: songwriter Sarah Harrelson. 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: Hi, everyone, this is Sarah Harrelson, your host of the 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: Taking a Walk Nashville podcast and listeners. Today, I am 24 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: sitting here with musical artist and songwriter Steve Warner in 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: his art studio and Franklin, Tennessee. 26 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 3: So cool. 27 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: Apparently this is the first time you've had anyone in here. 28 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 4: Correct, that is true. It actually feels kind of odd, 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 4: and I love it that you're here. I don't mean 30 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: it that way, but it feels odd because I'm always 31 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 4: alone in here. I'm always painting. Even my life care 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 4: and she stays out there pretty much because I would 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 4: usually have odd smells or some kind of linseed oil 34 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 4: or something. But yeah, I'm always alone. So it feels 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 4: great to have comedy today. Thank you very. 36 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: Ellie, Thank you for having us and for listeners. To 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: give you some background, you may know Steve as a 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: Grammy winning multi instrumentalist known for his hits, Holes on 39 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: the Floor of Heaven and What I Didn't Do. But 40 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: did you guys know that he is also a different 41 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: type of artists. 42 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: Steve has spent most of his life. 43 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: Simultaneously pursuing his passion of painting. In July Mont Haven 44 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 2: Arts and Cultural Center in Hendersonville, Tennessee, they will be 45 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: shining a spotlight on Warner's visual artworks and the flip 46 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 2: side paintings by Steve Warner. This exhibit will run through 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: June twenty first through July twenty sixth, so please check 48 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: it out if you're in town. It features sixty works 49 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: from Steve spanning thirty years. I can't wait to check 50 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: it out tomorrow. 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: Oh cool, Thank you for having me. 52 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 4: Glad you're here. And the talking about art is so fun. 53 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 4: It's very different for me because I usually jump right 54 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 4: in talking about the music stuff, you know, I never 55 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 4: discuss art. So it's really a breath of fresh in 56 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 4: a way. So yeah, I'm grateful. 57 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: I'm really excited to talk about your visual art, the 58 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: works and this art exhibit. It features oil, acrylic, watercolor. 59 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 3: And mixed media. 60 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: As I mentioned, it features sixty work spanning thirty years. 61 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: So when you look back at a canvas you painted 62 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 2: nearly three decades ago versus one you painted more recently 63 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: like this one, can you see a shift in your 64 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: emotional landscape? 65 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 4: Totally? Most definitely, Sarah, you can. As a matter of fact, 66 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 4: I was going to take this down. I'll bet that 67 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 4: it's this is a work in progress. So if anyone 68 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 4: is seeing this it's a behind us is a large 69 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 4: oil painting, but it's a landscape. But no, I can 70 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: see a difference too, And I can when I see 71 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: my work, you know. For example, I'm looking at a 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 4: piece across there. To me, that's a that is Smoky 73 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: Mountains for me, and it takes me back to play 74 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: in the days when I would play over there. It's 75 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 4: been a while since I played there, but well, actually 76 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 4: we just played BlackBerry Farm not long ago, eight months 77 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: ago or so. But yeah, these all I can see 78 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 4: the styles change, and I can see the different moods 79 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 4: and they take you back, you know. I can see 80 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: some of them are kind of wacky, like that one 81 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 4: up there, it's kind of weird. But but the styles 82 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: are all over the place, and I think that's a 83 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: lot like my music. I love all kinds of music, bluegrass, classical, country, 84 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 4: you know, I like just about every kind of music, 85 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: and I listened to it all the time, you know, 86 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 4: different styles. So I really think it's a reflection my heart, 87 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: is a real reflection of my musical taste. You know. 88 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's beautiful. 89 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of musicians that can't draw or 90 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: paint well, and you. 91 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 3: Know, vice versa. But this gift also seems to run 92 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 3: in your family. 93 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: Your brother David's a professional illustrator as well. 94 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 4: Correct he is. Yeah, he's done a lot of cool 95 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 4: stuff magazines and probably some things that we've all seen 96 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 4: before in magazine. And you don't realize that he's done 97 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 4: some ads and things for some big time magazines through 98 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 4: the years. But I always joked about David. I always 99 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 4: said he's the number one, he's the black sheep of 100 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: our family. But I said, also, he's the real artist. 101 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 4: I've always chasing him, you know. So he's really a 102 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 4: brilliant artist. He went to school, he went to Indiana University, 103 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 4: hair in School of Music at IU. You know. So 104 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 4: he's a real deal artist. And I love his work 105 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: and I've learned so much from him. Very cool. 106 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: You definitely have a talented family. And I want to 107 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: talk about one of the works and your exhibit, one 108 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: of your watercolors, Happy New Year Dad. It captures a 109 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: deeply personal family memory of your father's band on stage. 110 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: What was it like translating that memory into art? 111 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: Well, that that to me, that's one of my favorite 112 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 4: things I've done. It's a watercolor and I did It's 113 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: a real washy, loose, free style. When you see it, 114 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 4: it's not overdone. It's one of those quick fast paintings 115 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 4: that happened, and I just left it kind of as 116 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 4: it is, as it happened. But for me, it represents 117 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 4: my childhood, my musical childhood with my dad, because he 118 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: would practice his band. They would practice one for a 119 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: long time. They would practice one night a week at 120 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: our house, and my dad had a regular job, but 121 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 4: they would set up in our living room and play music. 122 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 4: And I just love that. I just I knew at 123 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 4: that point that I needed and wanted to learn how 124 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 4: to play guitar. And I was nine ten years old 125 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 4: learning how to play guitar and bass. And my dad 126 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: was a real patient man, a real patient teacher, and 127 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 4: I love that. And around that same period, it's when 128 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 4: there was a photograph taken of my dad and his 129 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 4: band playing New Year's at American Legion of in Indiana, 130 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 4: and that old black and white photo is what I 131 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: used is reference for that painting, and so it's kind 132 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: of my interpretation of that. And my dad has a 133 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 4: little New Year's Eve had on and playing probably playing 134 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 4: old Lang's Eye, and you knows have to But to me, 135 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 4: that really takes me back to those days when I 136 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: was a kid. My dad was smart too. He always 137 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 4: had a tape recorder, so I was around tape taping 138 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: music at an early age because he I remember him, 139 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: you know, reeling tape and what. He never had great equipment. 140 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: It was always probably a cheap tape recorder, but it 141 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 4: was he always had one, and he had steel guitars 142 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 4: laying around and lap steals and so it's just a 143 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 4: cool upbringing, you know. And I thought every family was 144 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 4: like that for a long time. 145 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: That's so special to translate that into art. And I 146 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: saw that you did refer to that water color as washy. 147 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: What is What does that mean? 148 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: Well, that means for me, that means you are lots 149 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 4: of water. You know, in the world of watercolors, you know, 150 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 4: they always talk about lots of water, lots of water. 151 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 4: And then careful with your bead. They call it the bead. 152 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 4: When it's if you painting on an angle, gravity will 153 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 4: make it come down and where it just kind of stops, 154 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 4: they call that a bead. And so you're always watching that. 155 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: But for me, washing is when I use I've used 156 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 4: these big Japanese brushes and then big spaces. I'll just 157 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: I'm haphazardly probably would be the right word. I'll i'll 158 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: just start mixing colors. Let me back up. First of all, 159 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 4: when I start a watercolo, I have everything laid out, 160 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 4: kind of like you're going into surgery almost. I have 161 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: all my utensils laid out, and then I dive in 162 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 4: and then I start just a loose wash, you know, washes. 163 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 4: Then okay, let me add this color. And it's all 164 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 4: before it dries, because it's the minute it's on the paper, 165 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 4: it's going to be dry very soon. So you work quickly. 166 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 4: And then I have little spritzes that I spray it with, 167 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 4: and I have a blow dryer and stuff that I 168 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 4: can if I want it to dry quickly, I can, 169 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: so I can go with another layer. But I know 170 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 4: I'm rambling on with your ants. But the watching stuff 171 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 4: is just where you go fast and it's and then 172 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 4: you go, oh, look what that did. I like to 173 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 4: call those happy little accidents, you know, and then you go, well, 174 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 4: that's really nice how that happened. Let's see if I 175 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 4: can make that happen again on this side or whatever. So, 176 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 4: but watercolors for me, are beautiful because you never know 177 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 4: what you get. It might just kind of slap it 178 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: on and you go, oh that's cool. I love that. 179 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 4: So it just happens, you know. 180 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very cool to learn about. You've had such 181 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: a successful career in music, so appreciate it. 182 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: When you become inspired. 183 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: How do you decide if you're picking up a guitar 184 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: or picking up a paintbra. 185 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: That is a great question right there. I think it's 186 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 4: the mood. It's probably the mood that I'm in. And 187 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 4: lately it's been more on the art side. I'm certainly 188 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: with this show, you know, I've been my brain has 189 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 4: been more directed toward working on the show, working on 190 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: the art show. But and then last month I ran 191 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 4: down to San Antonio and I flew down and did 192 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 4: a show in San Antonio. So I just switched about 193 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 4: a week out. I just and I hate to do 194 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 4: it because I love painting. Almost every morning I come 195 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 4: out in pain. But I just had to shut down. 196 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 4: When I have a show or when I do the 197 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: opera or something, I just shut down and then I 198 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 4: work on that because I want to stay away from 199 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 4: here and just focus. And then I'm in that building 200 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 4: over there across the way. I go to my studio 201 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 4: and drag out some of my guitars and start working 202 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 4: on music or writing writing songs too. I'll have writers 203 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 4: come out and we'll ride out here. So I just 204 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 4: shift gears, try to shift gears and be in that mode. 205 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 4: But some days I wake up and I go, you know, 206 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 4: today's I just feel like playing today. I need to 207 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 4: work on a couple of songs. I got a couple 208 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 4: songs I'm in the middle of right now actually, and 209 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 4: so I'm rossas hear my son from LA. We're going 210 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 4: to work on a couple things while he's here, and 211 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 4: so I'm shifting gears all the time. Then I'll come 212 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 4: back to the art. I'm back and forward. So it's 213 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 4: really a nice way to do it because it's a 214 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 4: nice release, you know, and it's it's it's the same 215 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 4: creative outlet, you know. I mean, there are different outlets, 216 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 4: but it's still creative, you know. So it really is 217 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: fulfilling that way. 218 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: And you can put a lot of your musical memories 219 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: into art. 220 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 4: As well totally. And a lot of times, as you know, 221 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 4: you play shows, you go out on the road, and 222 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 4: sometimes I'll carry my life will be with me and go, 223 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, look at that over there. I got 224 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 4: to paint that, you know. But I'm doing music shows. Well, 225 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 4: I may be out out west or whatever while or 226 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 4: somewhere and then I just, oh, I gotta I'll take 227 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 4: I have a camp. I usually sometimes I take my 228 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 4: big camera with big lenses and I'll take you know, 229 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 4: I can reach real far and take some cool pictures 230 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 4: and then use those. I don't plane air paint much, 231 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 4: you know, where you're in the field painting. Normally, I'll 232 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 4: take pictures and come home and do it. But but 233 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 4: I do it every way. And sometimes I'll paint as 234 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 4: I sit there sometimes or mostly i'll do I don't 235 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 4: do that as much, but mainly I'll take pictures and 236 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 4: or I remember it. A lot of times, I just 237 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: remember this painting behind you. I'm doing that Arizona type picture. 238 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 4: That's totally memory. I didn't didn't look at anything for that, 239 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 4: but so I don't know. I'm all over the place 240 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 4: with that. We are, you know, trying to trying to 241 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: come up with something creative. 242 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: Do you listen to music while you paint? 243 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 4: Most definitely always. 244 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 3: We're usually listening to it. 245 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 4: I love it. That's great. I'll probably be listening to you. 246 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: Now. 247 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go listen to your music, but I'm going 248 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 4: I listened to a lot of classic country. I'll listen 249 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 4: to country, but I do listen to classical music too. 250 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 4: I'll listen to a lot of piano music, this classical stuff. 251 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 4: You know, it just varies. Sometimes one of my favorites. 252 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 4: I'll listen to Gladys Knight sometimes, and then I'll listen 253 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 4: to Michael McDonald. The other day, I was I drop names, 254 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: but I've had we played together, Michael McDonald and I 255 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 4: played together not long ago, and and with Steve and so, 256 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 4: you know, immediately I started listening to when I next day, 257 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 4: I'm painting Doobie Brothers, Michael McDonald, you know, and so 258 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: Toto and stuff. So but I'm all over the place. 259 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 4: But a lot of times, I just occasionally I'll just 260 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 4: go back and listen to old fifties or sixties country, 261 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 4: some like Fair and Young or Bob Bloom And I 262 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: worked with Bob. I played in this band as a kid. 263 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 4: So I listened to just different people's opry, folks from 264 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 4: the sixties, you know. I just love all the old country. 265 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it, and steps away from your art 266 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: studio as your recording studio, and you've had a lot 267 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: of people come in and out recording music in that 268 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: studio over the past few decades. 269 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 4: I have. That's correct. I like to brag that, and 270 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 4: it's true. Jerry Reid recorded his last two projects with 271 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 4: Gordon Kennedy produced those albums. He did two projects and 272 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 4: we brought players out here and Jerry, it's funny you 273 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 4: have an elevator in the corner of the right corner. 274 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 4: Wh's a funny story, Karen. Actually, when we built that 275 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 4: building in two thousand and one, we actually had the 276 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 4: elevator before we even had the foot board for the building. 277 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: We've found an elevator. We built the plans around our lift. 278 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 4: But Jerry would always go, I'm going to take the 279 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 4: Jerry Read elevator up, and so we'd always go steps 280 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 4: and Jerry, every time we go to lunch, he come 281 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 4: back and say, I'm going in the Jerry Read elevator. 282 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: He would just all he loved riding that elevator. And 283 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 4: so when he passed away, I had a sign made 284 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 4: that says the Jerry Reader. Yeah, so that is the 285 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 4: Jerry read elevator. 286 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: That's so cool. 287 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: I love that he was the best. 288 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: I have a fun question for you. 289 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: So, if you had to pick one musical artist you 290 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: have worked with who you think would make the most 291 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: interesting subject for a painted portrait, he would you pay? 292 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 4: Oh, Blake Shelton probabably cool. I just worked with him recently. 293 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: We wrote a song together on this new album, and 294 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 4: he is the craziest. I've known him forever, and I've 295 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 4: known him since the Mulled days when he had a 296 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 4: real way down here here. But so I've known him 297 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 4: since the mid eighties, but when he first came out. 298 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: But Jesu is funny, you know he would be. That 299 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: would be a day that you would never forget. If 300 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 4: I brought him my hair and said, hey, sit well. 301 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 4: First of all, you could probably never get him to 302 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 4: sit still that long. Yeah, But but Garth would be 303 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 4: good too. Garth would be fun to do. 304 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: Well, now you have to do a painting of Boake. 305 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 4: I know, see, now, I gotta do it. I don't 306 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 4: know that he would ever agree to do it, or 307 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 4: sit still long enough. He'd probably go Warner, I gotta 308 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 4: get out of here. 309 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: You know, you would have to take a picture. 310 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 4: You would now I could take pictures and do it. 311 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 4: That's probably what I'd have to do. 312 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more of the Taking a 313 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: Walk Nashville Podcast. Welcome back to Taking a Walk Nashville. 314 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: Well, transitioning into music, you've earned fourteen number one hits. 315 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: You are one of only five guitar players in the 316 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: world to receive a certain guitar player ward. 317 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: By chet Atkins. 318 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: When you think back to the start of your career, Steve, 319 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: who would you say guided you along the way? 320 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: Was it Dottie West who. 321 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 4: Was a man? What? You're really good? That's great stuff. 322 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 4: That's a great question. Uh, I would first, I would 323 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 4: say my father probably, that's only because he I was 324 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 4: really inspired by his record collection he had. He we 325 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 4: didn't have tons of money, I know, we didn't later 326 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: realized we did not, but with a house full of kids. 327 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 4: But he always occasionally would buy albums. And when he 328 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 4: bought albums, they were always great albums. His taste, you know, 329 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: George Jones. And when later when Merle Haggard came around, 330 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 4: he was buying, you know, and he would buy Merle 331 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 4: Travis Records. Chad Adkins a lot of guitar players. He 332 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 4: was a musician, so he was looking at it from 333 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 4: that angle, and a songwriter. He wrote, he could really 334 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 4: write songs. And but I was always inspired, you know. 335 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 4: I remember Johnny Cash Records and Hank Williams Senior, Loving Brothers, 336 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 4: and you know, just totally inspired by all of his 337 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 4: music and his taste was impeccable. So I was, you know, 338 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 4: taught the right way. I think so. But other than that, 339 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 4: I would say certainly number one Dotty West. I worked 340 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 4: with her for three years, and she was like my 341 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 4: big sister. She was. They asked me if I have 342 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 4: masked where I went to school. I say, the Dotty 343 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 4: West Conservatory of Music. I went on the road with her, 344 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 4: and that's where I graduated with her. I went three 345 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 4: years on the road with her and learned a ton. 346 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 4: And then Chad Atkins. I worked with Bob Luhman after 347 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 4: her for a couple of years. He was a great entertainer. 348 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 4: I can't even begin to emphasize how much I learned 349 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 4: just about working a crowd, be it work doing a show, 350 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: being a showman, or trying to entertain. He was just 351 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 4: a consummate pro and was brilliant and he recorded my 352 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 4: first cuts I ever had as a writer. He cut 353 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 4: and Johnny Cash produced those four tracks, and I was 354 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 4: in the studio with Johnny Cash and require played on 355 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 4: those records in nineteen seventy six out of house of Cash, 356 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 4: and so being around these people was so inspiring and 357 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 4: I learned so much. After Bob Luman, I've worked with 358 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 4: Chad Atkins. He signed me to RCA, and then about 359 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 4: a year into working with him, he asked me to 360 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 4: come on the road and tour with him, at which 361 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 4: I did and played bass in the band. And while 362 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 4: we were trying to make a hit record and kept 363 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 4: working at it, and finally when I got my first 364 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 4: top ten hit, he fired me from the band. So 365 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 4: broke my heart, oh my goodness, and gave me the 366 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 4: blues and broke my heart. He called me and we 367 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 4: had it was a song called Your Memory, and it 368 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 4: was top ten, then went to seven, and he called 369 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 4: me in his office and goes, hey, Warner, you got 370 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 4: your first top ten And I go, yes, sir, you know, yeah, 371 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 4: how about that? And he goes, that's really great. You're fire, 372 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. But if you go to get fired, 373 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 4: I mean, come on, you know, but he was to 374 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: doing it. I love to get me out on the road, 375 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 4: get my own band, which I did and. 376 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: It all worked out for the best. 377 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: And then in nineteen ninety eight year song Holes on 378 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: the Floor of Heaven it was released. I want to 379 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: know where did the inspiration from this song came from. 380 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 4: I wrote that song with Billy Kersh and he came 381 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 4: to our house. We were sitting in that living room 382 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 4: right there, and Billy, we were just sitting having coffee 383 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 4: one morning and we were thinking about what to write. 384 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 4: And here's how smart I am that day. Let's write 385 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 4: something real up tempo, real rocking up tempo song. And 386 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 4: Billy said, yeah, that sounds great. He was a piano player. 387 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 4: He is a piano player, a great player. And he goes, yeah, 388 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 4: that sounds great. And Karen happened to be in the 389 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 4: kitchen and she heard us, and she never we normally 390 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: would write elsewhere. We were just sitting having coffee, and 391 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 4: she actually overheard and she goes, hey, you guys should write. 392 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 4: You guys never have done a story song, have you? 393 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 4: And that's all she said. She just said, you should 394 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 4: do a story song. You'd never done that. We'd written 395 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 4: a lot of songs at that point, and so Billy 396 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 4: just immediately Billy said, well, I heard a phrase recently 397 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: that I thought was so interesting, and I go, what 398 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 4: is it? And he said, there's holes in the floor 399 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 4: of heaven. I go, oh, my gosh, Oh my gosh, 400 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 4: you know. And so we just went from there and 401 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 4: we started making this not their grandmother passing away, you know, 402 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 4: and the story of how it unfolded, and the analogy 403 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 4: of you know, the rain, you know, and so forth, 404 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 4: and so it just we worked on it. The last 405 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: verse was the hard as it came around, and we 406 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,239 Speaker 4: knew while we were writing it. We knew that I mean, 407 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 4: I had a feeling and I never try to judge 408 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 4: ever while I'm writing a song. Sometimes you have a 409 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 4: feeling you go, this is good, this could be really good, 410 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 4: and then sometimes you think then it's not. You know, 411 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: later you go, well I was wrong about that one. 412 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 4: But this one I kept thinking, this is I this 413 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: is good. And we even called Karen up to it 414 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 4: was now her sewing room, and we brought I brought 415 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 4: her up there and we played it for her and 416 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 4: she said, oh my gosh, and that's all she said, 417 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: and we go, oh, let's don't jinxy get out of here, 418 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 4: you know. So we we struggled with the last verse, 419 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 4: and then I think he came back the next day 420 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 4: or a couple of days later, and we finished the 421 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 4: last verse. We just went at it all day long, 422 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 4: and then he came back a couple days later. We 423 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 4: finished it, and then my manager at the time, his 424 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 4: mother was in town from Florida, and if we'd just 425 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 4: written it a couple of days prior, she was at 426 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 4: our office. We had an office downtown on the Square 427 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 4: at Franklin, and his mother was sitting there, an elderly lady, 428 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 4: and I said, miss Bevan, can I play a song 429 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 4: we wrote a couple of days ago. And she goes, yeah, 430 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 4: so I'd like to hear that, And I played holes 431 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 4: In for Heaven. She could have been the first person 432 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 4: that ever heard it other than Karen probably, but and 433 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 4: so when it finished, she had a little tear in 434 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 4: her eye and she goes, that's really beautiful. I don't 435 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 4: ever want to hear that thing again. Oh my goodness, 436 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 4: And I go, we have was a good song, I 437 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 4: think so. And so I played it for Capitol Records 438 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 4: and they go, oh, yeah, we'll have this out next week, 439 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 4: and when can you get it recorded? And I go, 440 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,239 Speaker 4: I mad, he already did it. I'd already gone in 441 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 4: and recorded. Wow, it's the first song in my whole 442 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 4: career that I had taken in on my own dime 443 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 4: between labels. I went in on my own dime and 444 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 4: recorded that. I've never done that ever, except for that one. 445 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 3: Song you just knew. 446 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: Well, thank goodness to your wife Karen for to speak 447 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: that day. 448 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 4: And tomorrow's her birthday, perfe. 449 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: So I gotta tell her that so such a unique 450 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 2: concept of timeless song that I always tear up when 451 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: I hear it. 452 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 4: I appreciate that. Yeah, that's that's someone called it. Who 453 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 4: was it? Some one of the musicians or somebody said 454 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 4: that's an industrial strength here jerker in there. 455 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 3: It really is. 456 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: In addition to that song, you've also read other songs 457 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: for other country artists, such as Where the Black Top 458 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 2: Ends by Keith Urban, Nothing but the Tailights by Clint Black. 459 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: But country is not the only genre that you've been 460 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: involved in. 461 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: Metal icons a my say, I knew regga deeth, yep. 462 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: Dave Mustaine, he invited you to perform steel guitar on 463 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: the band's Dystopia album in twenty fifteen. Were you surprised 464 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: to get that invite in that they wanted steal guitar 465 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: on a metal song? 466 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 4: Well, see you still get Am I a stell guitar player. 467 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 4: I own two steal guitars. I do have steel guitars. 468 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 4: Know why that happened? I'd been I played with Dave. 469 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 4: I played his daughter recorded an album and I played. 470 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 4: He asked me. Dave called and asked play on his 471 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 4: daughter's record. I go, yeah, man, I'd love to so, 472 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 4: and was great, he's a great singer. And so I 473 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 4: played on it. And then we went to lunch one 474 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 4: day and Dave said, oh, let me back up. He 475 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 4: called later. He called and he said, hey, I got 476 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 4: a question for you. Who can I I want steel 477 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 4: guitar on this record, a couple of songs on my album. 478 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 4: I go on your album and he goes, steal guitar, 479 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 4: and he goes, I know, I know, And I go, well, 480 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 4: I know some really good steel guitar players. And I said, yeah, 481 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 4: let me get some names. And I immediately I was 482 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 4: thinking Tommy White or you know, Paul Franklin, And there's 483 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 4: several you know, they're just wonderful Mike Johnson, Bruce Bouten, 484 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 4: that are real deal, incredible steel guitar players. There are 485 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 4: my pals, you know. But so he goes, well, I 486 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 4: I heard you play steel, and I go, I own 487 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 4: some steel guitars. I don't really play by I do 488 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 4: play a little bit, and I love it. I look 489 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 4: at myself somewhat as a steel player, but not on 490 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 4: nearer those guys. But so he says, well, I want you, 491 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 4: and I go, oh, okay, I go, are you sure 492 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 4: about this? And so he goes, yep, I want you. 493 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 4: We'll be cutting tomorrow down at Jack's try. Whatever it was, 494 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 4: I forget the studio was called, and so I loaded 495 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 4: up my m and steel and drove my pickup down 496 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: there and we cut a couple of songs. I think 497 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 4: two on that. I think the album is called Dystopia, 498 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 4: I think is the name of the record. And there 499 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 4: I was on a they mustaye the Megadeath Records. 500 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: Did you find it challenging recording it? 501 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 4: I did. I did because it's totally not It wasn't anything. 502 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,719 Speaker 4: He wanted me to emulate some lines that he had played. 503 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 4: He's a really good guitar player and so he wanted 504 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 4: me to play these lines that he played. So it 505 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 4: took me my moment because it's out of my I 506 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 4: liked it because it got me out of my wheelhouse. 507 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 4: You know. It's like art. I want to try anything, pottery. 508 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 4: I'll try whatever I want to try, whatever's the next 509 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 4: new thing that's challenging, I'll try it, and if I fail, 510 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 4: I fail, it's all right, But I don't want to 511 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 4: do it with Dave Mustains sitting there, you know, And 512 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 4: there I was with my steel. He was right to Siami, 513 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 4: an engineer, and so I was trying to copy off 514 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 4: his licks and I did, you know, And then he wanted, oh, 515 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 4: try this, and I was just doing whatever he wanted 516 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 4: and trying to trying to add add my two cents 517 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 4: in there. So it turned out pretty cool. Metal is 518 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 4: not my thing typically, although I like him a lot. 519 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 4: He's a dear friend, and I admire his skill because 520 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 4: he's really a good player. But I find it fine. 521 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 4: When I say that to people that I played on 522 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 4: their records, they go say, what, But I mean, I've 523 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 4: been lucky. I played with Mark Knopfler, I played with 524 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 4: the you know, really a lot of cool people you 525 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 4: know bluegrass bands. You know Mark O'Connor and Ricky Skagg's events. 526 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 4: We did. We want to grab me for that new 527 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 4: National Cats. You know. I've been lucky to get to 528 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 4: play on a lot of cool projects, you know, with 529 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 4: different artists just as a player, you know, so that's 530 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 4: always fun. And chet Adkins of course played on a 531 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 4: lot of his records, and he was always kind of 532 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 4: asked me to play on stuff. You know, he at 533 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 4: least I want you on this. Get over here? You 534 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 4: what I did? I was on his Christmas album once 535 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 4: he called me to come to his house. So it's 536 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 4: called East Tennessee Christmas. This album. It's beautiful album. And 537 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: I'm saying he wanted me to sing I'll be home 538 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 4: for Christmas or uh, yeah, I'll be home for Christmas. 539 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 4: That's right. Which the arrangement was just gorgeous, you know, 540 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 4: strings and stuff. So it's always uh you know a Trea, 541 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 4: you know, something different. 542 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: Very cool. And you were born on Christmas? 543 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 2: So do you like playing on Christmas music? 544 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 4: I do love Christmas music, I gotta admit. Uh. People say, 545 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 4: how is it being born on Christmas? They go, you 546 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 4: don't want to find out it's not it's not pretty, 547 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 4: you know so, but no, it's a it's a there 548 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 4: were a house full of kids. I didn't know any different, 549 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 4: you know, really, that's uh I did, though, I would 550 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 4: learn about the fourth grade. Oh, that's what a birthday 551 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 4: party is like. I never knew of that, what a 552 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 4: birthday party looked like. So you don't have a birthday 553 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 4: party on Christmas Day. That will not have. 554 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 2: Well, you're doing Christmas in July by celebrating the exhibit. 555 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 4: There you go. I like that. We actually did a 556 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 4: We actually I've recorded a Christmas album, my first Christmas. 557 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 4: Brown Banister produced it, and it was it's I've really 558 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 4: love this. Of all the records I've ever done, and 559 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 4: I've done thirty five albums or whatever it is, it's 560 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 4: the only one that I'll actually put on and to 561 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 4: listen to the others. Yeah, it's okay, I'm good, but 562 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 4: that one I'll put on and listen to it every Christmas. 563 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 4: Only because Brown Banister and you know the strings we 564 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 4: went to Ireland recorded with the Chieftains and they're on 565 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 4: that record, and Nancy Griffith's on there and more O'Connor 566 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 4: and O'Connell excuse me, and I really love that album 567 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 4: a lot, and it's a for me, it's quintessential Christmas 568 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 4: because it's old style like strings and really big arrangements 569 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 4: and stuff. And we when we cut it, it was 570 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 4: in the middle of July and we had just to 571 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 4: make it festive and feel like Christmas. We hung up 572 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 4: Christmas decorations in July at the Bennett House in Franklin, 573 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 4: and we had a Christmas dinner with turkey, un dressing 574 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 4: and stuff. So all the players couldn't believe it, you know, 575 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 4: they were like, oh, we're having a Christmas dinner, but 576 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 4: it made sense. Yeah, you have to do it. 577 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: So, yeah, you have to get in the Christmas spirit 578 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: espectually because most Christmas songs are recorded in the summer. 579 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 4: Totally. Hey, you're right, very cool. 580 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: We've done a little a little bit of everything. It's 581 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: been so fun speaking well. 582 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 4: Thanks. I appreciate that. Yeah, it's fun. You are really Uh. 583 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 4: I like your deep diving. Man, it's you. It's not 584 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 4: your typical stuff. I love that. Thank you for caring 585 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 4: and doing that. That's great. It's good stuff. 586 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,239 Speaker 3: Thank you. 587 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 588 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: I love getting in the road of everything. Your art 589 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: exhibit Flip Side paintings by Steve Warner. It's open now 590 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: until July twenty sixth at mont Haven Arts and Cultural 591 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: Center in Hendersonville. This art museum is housed in one 592 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: of Tennessee's Antebellum mansions. They have featured ceramic art from 593 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: Picasso to evening gowns of Princess Diana and now paintings 594 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: from Steve Warner. 595 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 4: I say that again, what no, no, Sorry, that's sounding funny. Picasso, 596 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 4: Warner what. 597 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 3: I love it. 598 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: This place is cool because it also is an art 599 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: school and it provides healing arts to underserved children, families, 600 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 2: and veterans. 601 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 3: So I hope people will go check it out. Check 602 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 3: out the exhibit. Steve. I have one last question for you. 603 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: Today we are on taking a walk Nashville, So I 604 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: want to know what's the most memorable walk you have 605 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: taken in Nashville. 606 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I love this show. I love your stuff. 607 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 4: The most memorable you know what? Uh, it would probably 608 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 4: be years ago I went on a walk. Chad Atkins 609 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 4: used to walk a lot around his when he moved 610 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 4: to his building on seventeen, he moved out of the 611 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 4: RCA building and he moved into his beautiful big Victorian. 612 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 4: What was his offices? And he would he got into 613 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 4: a real health thing where he would walk a lot. 614 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 4: And so we went on a walk one day, and 615 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 4: that would probably be the one I would say. Is 616 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 4: I remember walking up seventy Avenue. We walked down by 617 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 4: ray Stevens office, who was Chet's buddy. By the way, 618 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 4: Let's go see what Raymond's doing, you know, But he 619 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 4: wasn't there, but just walking down Music Road back in 620 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 4: the back in the day with ched Atkins. You know, 621 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 4: it was pretty pretty cool. I'd love to go back 622 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 4: and do it again. I'll tell you that much if 623 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 4: I could, you know, so maybe painting of it, you 624 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 4: know what, Man, I like that idea. That'd be nice. 625 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 4: Wasn't they a music city or record? Say? Yeah, I'm 626 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 4: already thinking of the title. What the premise would be? 627 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 4: I love that. 628 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: That's a perfect answer, Steve It. Thank you for opening 629 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: your art. 630 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: Studio and home to us today. Everyone should go check 631 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: out your art exhibit and here Hendersonville for the month 632 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: of July. 633 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: Thank you again. 634 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 4: Thanks Sarah, You're great, Thank you. 635 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Taking a Walk Nashville with Sarah Harrelson. 636 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: Please check out our other shows produced by Buzznight Media 637 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: Productions Comedy Save Me and Music Save Me hosted by 638 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: Lynn Hoffman, and Taking a Walk hosted by Yours Truly 639 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: buzz Night. All shows are available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 640 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: and are part of the iHeart podcast network