1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: The volume. The Colin Cowherd Podcast brought to you by 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: fan Duel. It's never been easier to play fantasy on 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: fan Duel. Will he love basketball, golf, soccer or any 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: fantasy sport. There is a contest for every fan fan 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Duel more ways to win. All right, everybody, welcome into 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: the Thursday Morning Podcast. My buddy Nick Wright always a 7 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: good time. It's going to be joining us in about 8 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: three minutes. I want to start with this before we 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: get to the NBA stuff. So about seven years ago, 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Eight years ago, he was the toast of 11 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: the league, and I hated his body language, and I 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: thought he came off as sort of, you know, a 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: little condescending. And you know, I've been doing this long enough, 14 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: so everybody accumulates sources. So I had two Packer players 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: in a and somebody very close to the Packer executives 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: tell me that he was prickly difficult and not necessarily 17 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: as beloved as far't he didn't connect with people as 18 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 1: much as far but he was a huge talent. So 19 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: I went out in the air and I talked about 20 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: that and all the cheeseheads and the bloggers in the 21 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: local media predictably, he doesn't have any sourcing. You know, 22 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: That's what it was. And then about two years later, 23 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: a couple teammates of Aaron Rodgers had called him out, 24 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: a family member had called him out, and I doubled 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: down it and I said, this is what I've been 26 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: hearing for years. Then Bob McGinn, who covered him for years, 27 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: left and went to the Athletic and acknowledged, yeah, he's difficult, 28 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: and there's there are people in the building that don't 29 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: like him. Well now, and this is why I've never 30 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: sought validation from fans. Now, as I listened to a 31 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: radio show yesterday, all the Packer fans, all of them, 32 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: one after another on Chris Russo's show, Well, you know 33 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: he's never gotten along with his family. It was obvious 34 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: years ago he's very difficult. And I'm thinking, yeah, that's 35 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: what I said seven years ago and got crap. And 36 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: what it proves is something I talk about. You've got 37 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: to trust your sources. I do this for a living. 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: I always I heard it from multiple players. Jeff Saturday 39 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: came out and validated it by saying, yeah, I used 40 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: to roll his eyes in the huddles at Mike McCarthy. 41 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: So this is whenever I get hate mail, I say, 42 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: if I have a super strong opinion like Baker Mayfield's 43 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: a reach at a number one pick, it's because I 44 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: have multiple people in the industry telling me Baker Mayfield's 45 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, but he's a reach is a number 46 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: one pick, which when you watch Josh Allen and Patrick 47 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: Mahomes is pretty clear. So what I find funny on 48 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: the Aaron Rodgers front is this stuff's been available to 49 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: everybody for like eight years. He's gifted, but he's prickly, 50 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: he's difficult, he's a loop, he's California cool, and he 51 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: doesn't really relate to a lot of things in Milwaukee. 52 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: Although I'll give him credit, he's done a really good 53 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: job to put on the badger hat, you know, invest 54 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: in the box. I think he's done a really good 55 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: job actually to try to be part of the community, 56 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: but he's not really part of the community. You can 57 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: kind of see where Aaron's going with the Ballabu house, 58 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: who he dates, who he hangs with, who his friends are, 59 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: and without I bringing Nick Wright, who has a close 60 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: personal relationship with Aar And that's a bit of a 61 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: stress a bit of an exaggeration, but he certainly likes 62 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: me more than he likes you, and who could blame him? 63 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: So this is kind of funny because I actually now 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: find myself as a former Rogers critic and almost now 65 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: an ally because I do think he's been treated unfairly, 66 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: and when I see him act the way he's acting, 67 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: it just validates what I said, which is, don't screw 68 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: with this guy. He will bail on you really, really fast. 69 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: All right. So do you want my two observations of 70 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: this whole thing in your relation to you? Because I 71 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: think they're both good, all right. So the first one 72 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: is I think that you were early. You know, when 73 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: you do what you've done, as long as you've done it, 74 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: there are you know, every you know, three or four 75 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 1: times a year, every year you're going you say something 76 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: that really stands out and that people will remember and 77 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: will come back to. So Baker's an example. You were 78 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: very strong, very adamant on Baker, and now forever with 79 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: Baker you're going to be tied to him one way 80 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: or another. Right. So with Aaron, you history has proven 81 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: that a lot of what you said about Aaron was true. 82 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: And I think that should be acknowledged because in our 83 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: business the times when it goes the other way, when 84 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: history proves us wrong on things, we got to eat it. 85 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: So with Aaron, you do deserve you know, you're not 86 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: taking a victory lot, but kind of it. And you 87 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: were right. And the fans of course will turn on him, 88 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: especially by the way, and you know this, I used 89 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: to work with mad Dog. I love Chris, but especially 90 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: the type of fans who listen and call into Chris 91 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: Russo show, they are going to turn on the athlete 92 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: a little faster. The other thing is this, and this 93 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: is something I have observed from Afar from before we 94 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: worked with each other, to when we first met, and 95 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: to now when we've worked with each other for five years. 96 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: And I continue on my closest friends. As you have 97 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: gotten you know how people say like, if you're young 98 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: and not a liberal, you don't have a heart, and 99 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: if you're old and not a conservative, you don't have 100 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: a brain. You've actually gone a little the other way. 101 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: As you've gotten older and more successful, you relate more 102 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: to the superstar athlete. Yes, I think as you have 103 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: in your career gotten more on the same level as 104 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: the best athletes as far as where you are in 105 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: your field to where they are in theirs, I think 106 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: you have more sympathy and more relate to them, being 107 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: like bleep you management, No, I'm carrying this. And so 108 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: I think that you've been very pro Russell Wilson well 109 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: his whole career, but in the dispute with the team, 110 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: you've been very pro lebron on the economy moves with him. 111 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: So if he wants, you know, years ago as friends, 112 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: to be on the team plane, then put him on 113 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: the team plane. He is the economy of the city. 114 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: And with Aaron you see Green Bay. Maybe he's a 115 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: pain in the ass at times, but he is carrying 116 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: more than his weight. And I think that I think 117 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: it's been a fascinating just watching it evolution of what 118 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: I think that fifteen years ago Colin Gowherd maybe wouldn't 119 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: have been as sympathetic to Aaron Rodgers situation. I think 120 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: it would have maybe been they're paying you forty million bucks, 121 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, be happy about it, And 122 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: I think more I think that's evolved, and by the way, 123 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: I think the media is evolving in this. You're right, 124 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: the fans are still going to call Russo show and 125 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: kill him. But twenty years ago he would have had 126 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: no support in the media. Now I think most of 127 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,119 Speaker 1: the media does support it. Yes, the media has become 128 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,119 Speaker 1: very player friendly. Yeah at a time, maybe a little 129 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: two player friendly, and I think the media's like, yeah, listen, 130 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: give Aaron what he wants. Yeah. Well, I think what 131 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: Aaron's asking for is the same treatment of Russell Wilson, 132 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: Brady and Mahomes, where the Chiefs literally went out and 133 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: structured the offensive line full of Pro Bowl talent. Brady 134 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: got everybody back, Russell Wilson got upgrades because he finally 135 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: went public. Aaron's just saying, could we could you keep 136 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: my quarterback coach? Could you give me heads up? Yeah? 137 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: How about this? Could you treat me with the respect 138 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: the Vikings treated kirk Cousins and called kirk cousins, which, 139 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: by the way, I think the Vikings called kirk Cousins 140 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: in part to be nice to Kirk Cousins and in 141 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: part to make it worse for the Packers. I agree, 142 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: that's a divisional rival, that's you know what I mean 143 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: that that's their biggest rival and their biggest competition, And 144 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: I think they're like you know what, you know what 145 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: will really make Aaron Rodgers mad if not only do 146 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: we give Kirk Cousins and heads up, but we make 147 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: sure everybody knows that we gave Kirk Cousins more respect 148 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: than the Green Bay Packers gave you. Oh I, this 149 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: is exactly how the sports world works. Don't kid yourself. 150 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: You know this, and I know this. The pettiness at 151 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: the executive levels fantastic. Yes, a thousand percent, So I 152 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: totally believe that's what happened there. All right, Nick, Right, 153 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: let's let's talk about this. Yeah, the Clipper meltdown. It 154 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: is time to brush up your LinkedIn if you're a 155 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: Clipper executive. Oh man, So listen. Here's my theory on this. 156 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: The Lakers have been so successful full forever that it's 157 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: never just been about accumulating talent. They've been good for 158 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: sixty years, seventy or whatever. The Lakers know that through 159 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: all the championships, it wasn't just the talent, it was 160 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: the right leader. Wilt was a flake, Jerry West was 161 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: great and a leader. A Kareem was prickly great, best 162 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: player in the game. But it was Magic, the great leader, 163 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: who brought the most out of him, Kobe Lebron. That's 164 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: why they went so hard after Lebron. They saw the leadership. 165 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: But when you've never been loved like the Clippers, you 166 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: don't think about that, the idea that Paul George and 167 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: Kawhi would love you. You're not even worried about leadership. 168 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, the pretty girl likes me, of course 169 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: I'll go out. Whereas the Lakers, they dealt with the 170 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: goofiness of Dwight Howard, the inconsistency of Binnam. They've had 171 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: great players forever, but they don't fall in love. They 172 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: sought Steve Nash, it didn't work because of his leadership. 173 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: And I think the Clippers when they brought these guys over, 174 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: they didn't take a lot of time to think about 175 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: it or do homework. They just thought two really good 176 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: players like us will take them, and there were some 177 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: sis will take them. To use your analogy of the 178 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: pretty girl, it's not I'd love to go out with you, 179 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: it's we need to move in and get married to 180 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: media and they they sacrificed all future flexibility without getting 181 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: future commitment. So it's like it's too again to continue 182 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: to twist this analogy. It's saying move in with me. 183 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: I'll put your name on the house, and all you 184 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: have to do is promise me you'll give it six 185 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: months and if it doesn't work, then you still get 186 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: half the house. Now, Paul George has signed the extension, 187 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: but Kawhi is not, and they have no flexibility. And 188 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: that The other thing about the Clippers executives is they 189 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: misevaluated the landscape and the talent they Marcus Morris is 190 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: better than his twin brother Marquis, There's no doubt about it. 191 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: But Markief signed for the minimum and Marcus moore A 192 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: signed for four years sixty four million dollars. He's not 193 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: that much better. Luke Kennard they gave four years, sixty 194 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: million two he's been DNP coach's decision and back to 195 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: back games. Their big offseason acquisition was Sergebaca. He played 196 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: five minutes last night. He played five minutes in Game two. 197 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: I should say they have last year their issues were 198 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: they everyone said it was Doc, it was Paul George 199 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: and quiet A bad Game seven that allowed them to 200 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: disregard the fact that they didn't have a rim protector 201 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: or a point guard. They went into this year with 202 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: the same rim protector and point guard. Now they added Surge, 203 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: but Surges not a guy at this point career you 204 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: can rely on. And then at midway through the season 205 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: they're like, oh my god, we still don't have a 206 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: point guard. Let's go get Rondo because Rondo was good 207 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: for a month with the Lakers, and so they It 208 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: has been a It gained two was the worst case 209 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: scenario for the Clippers, brass because Kawai and Paul George 210 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: were excellent. Kawai had the best offensive half of his life. Yeah, 211 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: and they weren't good enough. They could have gotten blown 212 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: out if the MAVs hit their free throws, Kwai scores 213 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: thirty and a half and they get blown out. And 214 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: so you, Colin, I am telling you this, I don't 215 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: think he will. If Kawhi leaves, the Clippers are the Texans, 216 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: no picks, no future, just what what do we do? 217 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: And by the way, the Texans also have never been 218 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: to the Frinch Championship round. Forget the Super Bowl. The 219 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: Clippers haven't either. The Texans at least have only been 220 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: around twenty years, closed in around fifty and never been 221 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: to the semifinals of the league. It is an abject 222 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: disaster for them, and Luke is going to beat them. 223 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I do you see. I don't see how 224 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: they can win four out of fun No, no, I 225 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: don't see how they can do it. I said this 226 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: the other night in Game one, the last six and 227 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: a half minutes they had no offense. Dallas is a 228 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: bad defensive team. It's not like the Lakers or Milwaukee 229 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: shut you down. The MAVs did at home, and this 230 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: was the redeem game, redeem ourselves. If there was any 231 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: game in a series, you thought the Clippers would be 232 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: out of this world. Good. I knew last night when 233 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: I watched the first seven eight minutes and Dallas is 234 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: up six, I'm like, oh, the series is over. Because 235 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: my theory was that Tylou knows his team's a liability late, 236 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: so they were going to come out with tons of 237 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: energy early, take a lead. And Kawai spent the clip early. Yep. 238 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Kawhi is not a guy who can play 239 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: forty minutes at pete performance is some wrong. He's only 240 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: twenty nine there, I'm not judging him for it. There's 241 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: clearly something wrong with his lower body to where he 242 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: just he has to really measure himself. Yes, and when 243 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: we won that championship with the Raptors, he was perfect 244 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: at it. He would sit the first half of a 245 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, he would have only played thirty minutes that game, 246 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: and then the final six minutes of the fourth quarter, 247 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: when everyone else is wiped out, he would come in 248 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: fresh and kill you. Yes. He he last night tried 249 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: to do it all in the first half and did it. 250 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: Scored thirty first half points, thirty and they were up one. 251 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: I know Luca. Every person they put on Luca, he's insulted. 252 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: They think that that he's like you think this guy 253 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: can guard me. 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With the Action app, you can 279 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: one see the latest picks and articles from the Action Network. 280 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: Gambling experts too, compare odds from different sports books and 281 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: three track every bet you make so you always know 282 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: how your picks are doing. So if the game means 283 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: more to you, download the free Action Network app and 284 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: start betting smarter. All right, let's talk Lakers. You know 285 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: it's funny Anthony Davis when aggressive is so difficult to 286 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: even slow down. Forget stop. He's just a handful. He 287 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: can pull out, he can drive, he is towering. He's 288 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: a combination of Duncan, kg Rashid, He's all of it. 289 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: A dominant shot, walker, a dominant defender. But when he 290 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: started this season out of the bubble, out of shape. 291 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: I made a couple of calls and people are like, listen, 292 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: he's not a grinder. He's not Michael, he's not Kobe, 293 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: he's not Lebron. He's way more shack. You know, he's 294 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: just a natural talent and his body is treating him 295 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: like a twenty eight year olds body would. Who doesn't grind. 296 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Jordan's grind is why he didn't get hurt. 297 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: Brady's grind, Russell Wilson's grind is a big component why 298 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: they don't get hurt. Some injuries are freak injuries, and 299 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: but very often it is the work you put in 300 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: and the ability to sustain what would have been a 301 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: month out for somebody is three days out for you 302 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: because you're bodies built up for it. Like, and it's 303 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: why Kobe was healthy forever until the very end. That's right. 304 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: Michael broke his foot his second year and then was 305 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: healthy forever. Lebron, you know, for fifteen years, had no 306 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: injuries at all. Like, so yeah, people, some guys do 307 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: get unlucky with injuries. Just one bad injury changes the 308 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: whole trajectory. But that is that is his more skill 309 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: than people think. Injuries is pure luck. Some are a 310 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: lot of It is what you put in, you get out. 311 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: That's I totally agree, but go ahead. It's really interesting 312 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: that after Game one he played a great Game two, 313 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: and I just wonder what is in Because Peppin worked 314 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: out his heart as Jordan did in his body. Kobe 315 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: got really frustrated with Shack because he didn't put in 316 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: the time. And I wonder if there is a part 317 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: of Lebron where he's saying, Okay, Jamal Murray's back next year, 318 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: you know he's starting, Luca's only get better. Clay Thompson 319 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: comes back and Lebron is sitting there thinking, this cat 320 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: my running mate, right, my Robin, you just can't depend 321 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: on him physically. And I wonder if there's is a 322 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: little Lebron would never do it publicly, but there's a 323 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: little bit of him that's, if not pissed, frustrated with 324 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: a d well. I think that there has to be 325 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: a part of Lebron that says to himself, it is 326 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: really truly remarkable that I've been in the league eighteen 327 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: years and There's been two years of my entire career 328 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: where I could go to the bench and expect my 329 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: team to keep or extend the lead. His second and 330 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: third year in Miami, was it? Those are the old 331 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: His first year in Miami, they hadn't quite figured things out. 332 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: His fourth year in Miami, d Wade at that point, 333 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he couldn't played back. Yeah, yeah, 334 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean the obviously his first seven years in Cleveland. 335 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: Nobody ever, even those three years in Cleveland when he 336 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: came back with Kyrie, and the same thing this year 337 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: and last year and of course first year with the Lakers. 338 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: In this series, he's played seventy five in the ninety 339 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: six minutes. They are plus eighteen in his seventy five 340 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: minutes or plus sixteen pardon me, in the seventy five minutes, 341 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: and minus eighteen in the twenty twenty SAT Game one, 342 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: where they seem it Lebron didn't look good. Nobody looked good. 343 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: He played thirty six minutes. There were plus two in 344 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: those thirty six they outscored the Suns. In Game one 345 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: when he was on the court, they were minus eleven 346 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: and the twelve he sat. It is, you know, it 347 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: is a remarkable thing that even though he's been on 348 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: at different times, very talented teams, these teams have never 349 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: been able to function without it. They just can't. And 350 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: I think the reason he was so cited about a 351 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: D and trying to build a D up in the 352 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: bubble is even though I think Lebron still believes and 353 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: I think he should believe that when he's healthy, he's 354 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: the best player in the world, he understands that if 355 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: he wants to be competing for championships through his twentieth season, 356 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: which he wants to be able to do, if he 357 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: wants to give himself a chance to be competing at 358 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: a high level, if and when his son can make 359 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: the league, he's going to half to at some point 360 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: play thirty two high level minutes tonight and be handing 361 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: the keys over to somebody, and Ad in the bubble 362 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: looked like he was ready to do it. And now 363 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: this year is a bad year. I mean, he's been 364 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: a bad year. Now he was awesome in Game two, 365 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: and we'll see if that kicks him in the ass. 366 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: But I think I heard you say the other day 367 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: who you are at nine? You are forever like therapy man. 368 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis was a point guard until he was fifteen, 369 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: and then he grew eight inches. And I do think 370 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: there's an element of man that's I want to be 371 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: out here. When I fell in love with basketball, when 372 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: I was killing folks in Chicago, I was on the perimeter. Yeah, 373 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: I was finessed, I was this, I was that, and 374 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: then I didn't ask to grow a bullet. And now 375 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: you want me to bang down low with DeAndre Ayton, 376 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. Yeah, And so I 377 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: just I mean, he's twenty eight, he's been a league 378 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: eight years, and it's still pulling teeth for him to 379 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: play center. He does not want to play center and 380 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: said they're like Mark Bassol you can't move more than 381 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: two miles an hour go out there, and so it's 382 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: just it's an interesting He's an interesting cat in that regard, 383 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: obviously an unbelievable player. And I still think, like I 384 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: think this is the toughest series the Lakers have left, 385 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: but oh yes, no question until the finals. That is 386 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: the final is a different story. But in the West, 387 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: I look at it, I'm like, wait, what's happening? Like, 388 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: look at how open this path is if you get 389 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: past Phoenix. Devin Booker did not hit a field goal 390 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: in the last fourteen minutes of that game. And this 391 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: goes back to something I think I've discussed with you. 392 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: Devin Booker is now and what his sixth season, and 393 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: he's like twenty four years old, twenty five years old. 394 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: He's a kid. If he was an NFL player, he'd 395 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: be in year two and we would not ask him 396 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: to be a leader. So this is my problem with 397 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: the G League is if you go this morning and 398 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: you look at many of the leaders, Draymond's a leader, 399 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: regardless of what you think of him. Four years of college, 400 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: d Wade three, Chris Paul two, Damian Lillard four. Lebron's 401 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: the exception. How about steps leader step would win in 402 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: three years? Yeah, Kyrie eight games gone, Katie one year gone. 403 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: So AAU basketball is not about culture. It's about talent. 404 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: You spend nine months in a college campus, that's not 405 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: about culture. You start looking at the leaders in the NBA. 406 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: Lebron is the exception. Most went from high school into 407 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: a very good college culture. You know, you got to 408 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: see it to be it. Sometimes with leadership. Duane Wade 409 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: three four years at Marquette. You come out of that culture. 410 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: You're a smart kid, you've been in college for several years. 411 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: You gravitate to the more mature veteran players. It rubs 412 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: off on you and your last nine years in the league. 413 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: You're a leader. Devin Booker is a prime example. He 414 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: is high school Kentucky, NBA. He's been great since year two, 415 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: but the minute Chris Paul is hurt, they're not They're 416 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: not the same, and they don't they can't get into 417 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: what they need to in their sets. This is why 418 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm antig league. You'll make your money, you'll make your 419 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: extra four hundred thousand dollars, But the guys that get 420 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: the shoe deals and the promotion in the marketing are 421 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: generally the leaders, the steps and the guys who we 422 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: view is not just talent. Trey Young is not on 423 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: billboards everywhere. He's just talent, whereas Steph is viewed as 424 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: sort of a friend. He's a quarterback. So I yeah, 425 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: So I think the G league path. I think if 426 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: you are trying to be one of the ten best 427 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: players in the league, you almost assuredly should go to 428 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: a big time program in college, ye like, and get 429 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: at least as much of that experience as you can. 430 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: I think for guys that are trying to make the 431 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: league and carve out seven to nine years, you know 432 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: what I mean, I think that the idea of I'm 433 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: not going to be a superstar. I don't know if 434 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to get hurt. I'm I'm if I can 435 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: add a year of half a million earnings potential, I'm 436 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: doing it, you know what I mean. Like the so 437 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: the kid that one of the first kids to do it, 438 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: he supposed to go to Syracuse, Darius Baisley, to me, 439 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: he's a great example. Makes sense for him. He was 440 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: no distruct to him. He was never going to be 441 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: the best player on a team NBA team. All these times, 442 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, there's an extra year where I can 443 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: make a million bucks. That's a million bucks that if 444 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm smart, I can put some of it away, and 445 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: by the time I do retire from the NBA, that's 446 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: more than that I've got. So that there's a couple 447 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: of things you said there that spurred some of my brain. 448 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: You said, Lebron's the exception. Lebron might actually prove your 449 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: point because Lebron was an unbelievable player in Cleveland. He 450 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 1: was not the first time around. He was not an 451 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: unbelievable leader. He came out of Miami, which he called 452 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: my college experience as this leader. It's only been this half, 453 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: this part of his career where he has been the 454 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: ultimate leader. And it's what you're talking about. These guys need. 455 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: He got from pat Riley and spoke. He didn't necessarily 456 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: love all of it, but that's where he got it. 457 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: He didn't. He was a magnetic personality and a great 458 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: player in Cleveland the first time around, but he was 459 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: not this guy, even though he's the best player. The 460 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: other thing when you said Booker and there's a total 461 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: left turn, so you can get us back on track 462 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: after but I came up with what I called a 463 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: superstar test, and I want to run it by you. Okay, okay, 464 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: because we talked about in the NBA all the time. 465 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: This guy stars, he's a superstar. What is Jason Tatum? 466 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: What is? To me? It's I think I figured it out. 467 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: Can you have an awful playoff game and skate not 468 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: get crushed by folks like us? If you can, you 469 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: are not a superstar. Yeah, Jimmy Blood is a star, 470 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: not a superstar. Bingo Julius Randall star not a superstar, 471 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: that's right. Anthony Davis superstar, no doubt about it. He 472 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: was terrible game one killing got annihilated on all fronts. 473 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum's nine for thirty two in the series against 474 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: the Nets. No one cares what he's a star. He 475 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: is not a super star. Now, there are a few 476 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: guys like Paul George who because of the team he's on, 477 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: he gets criticized like a superstar, even though he's probably 478 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: more of a star. But when Paul George was in 479 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, he could have a terrible game and nobody 480 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: killed him for it because he was a star, not 481 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: a superstar. Clay has been in this perfect place his 482 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: whole career where when he's awesome he gets all the love. 483 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: When he's terrible and he's not terrible off and nobody 484 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: kills him. That's the test. Can you be awful in 485 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: a big spot and get a pass? If you can, 486 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: you're not a superste that's by the way, Jannis gets 487 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: crushed when he plays. So he's a superstar and he 488 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: didn't used to three years ago in the playoffs prior 489 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: to the Toronto series the year before. That's so twenty 490 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: eighteen he was a star. He was not yet a 491 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: superstar because if he's batt in the playoffs, nobody killed 492 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: him for it. It's like, oh, Yann's he'll get there, 493 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: He'll be good. I'm curious to see where Luca lands 494 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: in this because Luca, amazingly has never had a bad 495 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: playoff game, so we don't know. He has played eight games, 496 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: he's been awesome in all of them, so we don't 497 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. And he's never been on 498 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: a team that was supposed to win the series, like 499 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: he's always been the underdog. But I think lucas a 500 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: guy who's already good enough to where he'll get crushed like, 501 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: if he plays bad, they'll kill it. I think Luca 502 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: is in the rare space. He'd have to have back 503 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: to back bad games. You'd probably you'd give him a 504 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: bad game if he had back to backs. It's a trend. 505 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: But I do think we give him a little bit 506 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: of a holy crap. He's good for his age, like 507 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: insanely good for his age. We're gonna give him a 508 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: couple of you know, tomatoes. You'd give him a pass 509 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: and see what it is. But I think that's the 510 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: simplest way to do it, because I thought you mentioned 511 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler immediately, and that's exactly that's what spurred this 512 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: in my brain because I was like, Jimmy Butler terrible. 513 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: I know, he tied the game, he was awful in 514 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: game one, he was not better in game two. And 515 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: no one's killing him because they know he's actually not 516 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: a superstar. He carries himself like one. He was great 517 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: in the Bubble last year. He's a star players, not 518 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: a superstar, right, Nick. So if I'm gonna throw and 519 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: you're great at stuff like this, Kevin Durant breaks his leg, 520 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: I know this is a terrible hypothetical. His career ends. 521 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: He's had a lot of injuries. He has one more 522 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: serious injury and it's kind of over. We thought about 523 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: this the other day on the show. I brought this 524 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: up with Joy. Where do you put him all time? Oh? 525 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: I mean, do you want like the exact specific because 526 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: I can tell you, yeah, I was gonna say you literally, 527 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: how I think of high school football recruiting where I've 528 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: got the seventh best high end on the West Coast 529 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: ranked in my head, you have these lists? Where is 530 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: he today? If it all ended, If it all ended today, 531 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: I would have Kevin Durant. I want to make sure 532 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: I get this right for you. Fifteenth all time, twelfth 533 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: of the last fifty years. So if you want to 534 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: like Russell, Bill Russell, Jerry West, Oscar Robertson are in 535 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: that top fifteen. But so I make sure I get 536 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: this right. Lebron, Michael Kareem, Magic Russell, There's five, Duncan, Kobe, Oscar, 537 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: Bird West, there's ten A team doctor j Moses Durant 538 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: fifteen step sixteen. So if if if it's done for 539 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: him today, I have him fifteenth ever and twelfth of 540 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: like the semi modern era, he can go higher. Oh yeah, 541 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, I mean he can go higher the 542 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: the the other guy who if he's awesome in these 543 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: playoffs that moves up a ton is hardened. Ye hardened. 544 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: He's a tough bill to swallow for people. But right now, 545 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: what the you know, what the back of the basketball 546 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: card would read is one MVP, three second places, six 547 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: top fives, MVP, three scoring titles, and assist title, a 548 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: sixth Man of the Year award. If he adds finals MVP, 549 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, he's done everything. It's done. It has 550 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: thirty four point per game season, a thirty six point 551 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: per game season. And if he ends up being because 552 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: maybe they would have figured it out, but the nets 553 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: and I know neither you nor I have him coming 554 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: out of these this year. But they were a middling 555 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: team before that trade. Yes, and then they took all 556 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: ye and so the like and the other thing that 557 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: will happen this So you remember when Dirk won the title, 558 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: the him them losing in the O six finals stop 559 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: being used against him. It started being a positive. It's like, oh, 560 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: and he went to the finals a few years before. 561 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: If if Harden wins the tie, all the twenty eighteen 562 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: season start when they were up three two on the 563 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: Warriors before Chris Paul got hurt, starts being used as 564 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: a feather in his cap. It's like and the only 565 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: team to put a scare in the healthy Katie Warriors 566 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: was Harden's team until you know they CP three got 567 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: hurt and they missed the twenty seven threes. But I 568 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: derailed you, but Kevin Dury, I see's fifteenth ever. Yeah, 569 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: it Harden is the rare athlete where I had a 570 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: strong opinion and I changed it. And I've said this. 571 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: I thought he started at least trying on the defensive 572 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: end two years ago, and then I have fully changed 573 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: it because of his assist numbers with Brooklyn and the 574 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: fact they won without Durant and we're very average without Harden, 575 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: and I have changed. I always want to be open minded, 576 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: but I've changed my opinion. I always said he's a 577 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: great score is evaluable, and I think not. It's I 578 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 1: always say this when you leave a company, it's not 579 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: what you do when you leave. Also, what happened to 580 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers after Harball left. It wasn't just Michigan. 581 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: Judge him on both. Houston now is a disaster. There's 582 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: no soul to the franchise, and he is clearly the 583 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: most valuable member of the Nets. Do you have an 584 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: athlete in any sport that you had a strong opinion 585 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: and you flipped it. I'll answer that one second. By 586 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: the way, everyone prior after from Duncan on down moved 587 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: down one spot because I left out Wilt Chamberlain. And 588 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: then then okay, volume social media people, don't you dare 589 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: put out my list without will thought it'll kill you. 590 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: I've never I'll quit the industry. Um, I was doing 591 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: that off top of my head. But so so fifteen 592 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: sixteen for Grant, a guy I flipped my opinion on 593 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: from so let me how about Brady? Let me think 594 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: about that success and Tom still can't stand him the 595 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: so Harden is actually a one that I you know, 596 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: I used to be the only hardened defender out there 597 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: in the national media. I really didn't like how he 598 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: left Houston, and I got a little irritated that it 599 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: seemed like a lot of the folks who had been 600 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: crushing him then came around. So I almost became seemingly 601 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: for a moment anti Harden, but I'm not. But there's 602 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: I know, there's somebody. There's a good example of someone 603 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: that I initially couldn't stand and then I was like, okay, 604 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: like what, oh, you know what? I think Durant's probably 605 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: the one. I think Durant is a guy that I 606 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: went from having massive respect for an Oklahoma city was 607 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 1: just as out on him as you possibly could be 608 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: for not just the Golden State thing, but everything surrounding it. 609 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: The Golden State thing and the burner accounts and it 610 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: to me and I'm gonna sound like an old man now, 611 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: but almost like gen Z you got you don't understand me, 612 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, man, I get it, but you 613 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 1: your celebrity. And like I I'm not big on people 614 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: within reason complaining about people are mean to me on 615 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: the internet. It's like, yeah, just because people are mean 616 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: to me on the internet all the time, and I 617 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: just I feel like that's part of the job, right, 618 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: I think you sign up for it. Like my buddy, 619 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: my buddy Lazlo would say, is like, hey, man, nobody 620 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: walks up to the dude at home depot and says 621 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: I hate you, Like that's available to you. He's like, 622 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: you put yourself out there, You're gonna get you're gonna 623 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: get cool things. You're gonna go to a restaurant. Sometimes 624 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: the guy's gonna be like, oh my god, I love you, 625 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: and you're gonna get a free meal. And sometimes people 626 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: are gonna be like, you suck. So Durant I didn't 627 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: like how he handled the last year in Golden State. 628 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: I didn't like any of it. And then I'll just 629 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: be honest. He I thought the way he clearly wasn't 630 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: ready and came back because he thought his team needed 631 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: him in those finals was admirable. And then seeing it 632 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: go the worst it possibly could have gone, him handled 633 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: that as well as you can do it, and then 634 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: come back this year and be just it. It feels 635 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: like every night it's like what Durant do? He was 636 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 1: eight of twelve, had twenty six points? Like what? How? 637 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: Like how is he that efficient? So Durant. Durant's a 638 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: guy that I have come to have a different level 639 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: of respect for and like fear of as a guy 640 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: if you're going against him, like, oh my, because there 641 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: was in Oklahoma City he was unbelievable. But it did 642 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: feel like late in games he was everyone killed Russ, 643 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 1: but he was he was shaky Durant was shaky a 644 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: bit late in those games a lot of times, and 645 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like that he's like that anymore. I'm 646 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: sure there's others I'm not thinking of, but that's the 647 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: one that comes to mind. All Right, my Action Network 648 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: better the week we're taping this right before the Knicks game. 649 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: I'll take the Knicks minus two and a half to night. 650 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: I think they even the series. I like him to 651 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: win this series, but I say it with no confidence 652 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: because it is just so difficult to squeeze offense out 653 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: of that lineup. It's so go ahead. I mean, it's 654 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: like when Julius Randall struggled and I watched it and 655 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: I thought, well, yeah, he was, like he should be 656 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: the third best player in a team. This is what 657 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: the third best player does all the time. I mean, 658 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: even before Kevin Durant, Draymond had really really bad nights. 659 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:34,240 Speaker 1: That's because Draymond's a B player. Yeah, so I picked 660 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: the Knickson seven. I do feel like they needed that 661 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: first game as a brutal one. And people, if you 662 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: want to be basketball nerd guy, everyone goes to the 663 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: play the trade game winner. With a minute left in 664 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: that game. The Knicks are up three. They play a 665 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: perfect defensive possession. They get two deflections on one pass 666 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: is the shot clock is going down, and it just 667 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: bounces into Bogdan's hands in the corner and he cans 668 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: of three to tie the game. And that was if 669 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: they deserve to stop there, then they have the ball 670 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: up three with fifty seconds, they're gonna win the game. 671 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: So I felt for them there. I also really like 672 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: the Knicks tonight because I think that two things are 673 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: gonna happen. One is I do not think Trey is. 674 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 1: I think as the series goes on, Trey is gonna 675 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 1: get less calls. I think Trey Young is super reliant 676 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: on the officials. It is a very smart way to 677 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: play in the regular season, and it worked for him 678 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: in the first game of the playoffs. But Tray's the 679 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: very interesting He tries to beat you so he can 680 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: stop in front of you. So it's a very peculiar 681 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: way to play basketball. Most guys try to beat you. 682 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: So then get to the rim, he tries to beat 683 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: you so you're on his hip and then he just 684 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: stops and jumps and he's so like little that it's real. 685 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: Contacted is a foul, but it's infuriating to watch or 686 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: root against. I don't think he's gonna get all the 687 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 1: calls and listen, Tibbs. If you if you employ Taj 688 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: Gibson in the year twenty twenty one and it's not 689 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: to lay Trey Young on his ass early and take 690 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: the flagrant, then I don't know what you're doing. Like, 691 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: if you're trying to be the old school Knicks, you 692 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 1: gotta lay this guy out right and gotta make him 693 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: a little nervous about coming inside. So I think both 694 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: those things happen. People obviously know by the time they 695 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: hear this, but so we'll see. If I also like 696 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: the Knicks. I like the Knicks to winning even the series. 697 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: Nick Wright as always great at The Volume Sports, Twitter, 698 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: and Instagram, Rate review and subscribe. Great talking to you, buddy, 699 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: You too, I'll talk to you soon. Love you, Kyle. 700 00:40:47,480 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: Thanks man the Volume.