1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back in final hour of the week. We appreciate 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: all of you who've spent fourteen hours with us so far. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: Maybe you have not been able to we would encourage 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: you to go subscribe to the podcast. As you heard 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: as we went to break at the end of the 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: last hour. We have got a phenomenal podcast network, many 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: different unique shows out there dominating in many different aspects 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: of the political, social, culture arenas, and so we appreciate 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: all of you. You can search out my name Clay Travis. 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: You can search out Buck Sexton. 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Who is Joe? 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: Are you a Knicks fan? 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: I am not. 17 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: Oh that's a shame, because Buck grew up a Knicks fan. 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: And I was going to give you a little bit 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: of praise because the Knicks finally won a playoff series 20 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: last night, and they did so an exciting fact, Jaywen 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: Buck Brunson Crossover draining a three, and so I thought 22 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: maybe you were a Knicks fan too. 23 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: Well, we'll skip that. 24 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: It is a big week for you, however, because you've 25 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: got a brand new book out and it's about Trump's 26 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: greatest political comeback ever. And I know that it's been 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: six months ish since the election day itself, but it's 28 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: still kind of remarkable history, I think. And you're writing 29 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,919 Speaker 1: a version of history with this first kind of draft 30 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: of history because it's still so current. History's going to 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: have a hell of a story to tell in the 32 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four election for a long time to come. 33 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: I think it was the craziest time we've ever seen 34 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 3: guys in any campaign ever. I mean, there's one point, 35 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 3: Clay Buck June twenty seventh, twenty twenty four, that debate 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: in Atlanta, I was there at Georgia Tech, and we 37 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,919 Speaker 3: all saw Joe Biden's brain turned applesauce. The media was shocked. 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: Democrats for shocks. You guys have been talking about his 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: cognitive decline on this show for many years. I have 40 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: as well, so it wasn't surprised to us. But then 41 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: think about what happens after that July eleventh, Joe Biden 42 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: says that we need to put Trump in a bullseye 43 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 3: unquote right. And then two days later Butler, Pennsylvania, somehow 44 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: a twenty year old kid is able to hide a 45 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: high powered rifle next to the one building that has 46 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: perfect line of sight to Donald Trump. He's then able 47 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: to get up on the building because nobody decided to 48 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: secure it. They had some personnel inside of it, which 49 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: does nothing. But there that kid is right up on 50 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 3: the building. And if Donald Trump doesn't turn his head 51 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: hard to the right to read a chart that he 52 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: had never read before in a rally, then we're having 53 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: a much different conversation right now. And then July fifteenth, 54 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 3: there he is at the RNC with a big bandage 55 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 3: on his ear. He chooses jd Vance, which not a 56 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: lot of people expected. Six days later, Joe Biden drops 57 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: out of the race, and a day or two later, 58 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: pretty much the Democratic Party consolidated around Kamala Harris. So 59 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 3: if you just look at that twenty four day stretch alone, 60 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: it's never going to get any nutier than that. And 61 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 3: yet they thought Kamala Harris was going to be able 62 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: to pull this out at the last second. 63 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I remember there, Do you remember, Joe? 64 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 3: I know you do, because you wrote the book about it, 65 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: and also you're Joe and you cover this too. 66 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: But uh, when they. 67 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 3: Had that, I think it was about two weeks, maybe 68 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: in August or all of a sudden it was, oh, 69 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: look at Kamala's numbers, She's the greatest. 70 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: And I got nervous, Box stayed strong. I was a 71 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: little bit nervous, I'll be honest. 72 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: I actually that was when I made the call that 73 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: Trump would win by more than he beat Hillary by, 74 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: which in August of twenty twenty four felt like a 75 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: little bit of a little bit of a crazy thing 76 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: to say. But now, of course, looks great in retrospect. 77 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: But do you think any of them actually believed it, 78 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: Joe when it came to Kamala or did they just 79 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: have no choice and they knew it. It was like 80 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: Hope casting right. And it was a mirage because she 81 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: was doing these rallies and you saw the big crowds 82 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: in the enthusiasm and Brat's summer and she's bringing joy 83 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: back to the campaign. But she wasn't doing any interviews 84 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: during that time. Remember July twenty third or so, she 85 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: became the nominee in essence, and then she didn't do 86 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: an interview when until September, like they wouldn't even let 87 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: her go on the view or MSNBC, so she was, 88 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: you know, the prompter candidate and read the same speeches 89 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: over and over again and talked about how she worked 90 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: at a McDonald's, which of course never happened. What I 91 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: knew that Trump was going to win was the teamsters 92 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,119 Speaker 3: had these internal polls that they put out, and one 93 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 3: when he was up against Joe Biden, that being Trump 94 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,119 Speaker 3: bidens up by ten points because he's always portrayed himself 95 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 3: as a very pro union guy. Kamala then gets installed 96 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 3: Soviet style and they do another poll among the rank 97 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 3: and file teamsters and Trump is up by thirty. You're like, wow, 98 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: that's a forty point friggin swing. And then Trump's gaining 99 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: Black vote and he's gaining Latino votes, and you're thinking, 100 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: who's left to vote for Kamala Harris exactly. I mean 101 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 3: the childless cat ladies. I mean, that was basically all 102 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: that was left over. 103 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 4: Joe. 104 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: There's so many different angles. 105 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: And I got your book, and I appreciate you you 106 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: sending it out, and I'm looking forward to checking it 107 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: out in general. But this thing of suddenly pivoting and 108 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: going after people that they claimed were phenomenal. I don't 109 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: know if you've seen this today, but New York magazine 110 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: has a huge cover story where they say, and I'm 111 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: reading from the teas from New York Magazine, it's about 112 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: John Fetterman, Pennsylvania Center senator. Former current staffers paint a 113 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: picture of an erratic senator who's become almost impossible to 114 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: work for and whose mental health situation is more serious 115 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: and complicated than previously reported. It's become harder to tell 116 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: whether or not he can even do the job, and 117 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: it ends with they worry he may present a danger 118 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: to the Democrat Party and maybe even to himself if 119 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: he's not pro Israel. Is this story ever written, in 120 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: your opinion, Joe. 121 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: If he didn't go to mar A Lago to meet 122 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: with Trump? Would it be ever written if you didn't 123 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: say that we need much stronger border security, like things 124 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 3: that Democrats have a real problem saying yeah, all these things. 125 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: If I'm John Fetterman, I say Democratic Party, screw all right, 126 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: I'm out. I'll go caucus with Republicans now. If you 127 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: don't want me, that's fine. Because this was clearly a 128 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 3: plant and the fact that everybody cheered on John Fetterman 129 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two when he ran against doctor Oz 130 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: from the Pennsylvania Senate seat while he literally needed like 131 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 3: close captioning in order to like do interviews. He couldn't 132 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: do small talk. Oh no, that's ableism. You guys can't 133 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 3: attack him from because he had a heart attack. And now, 134 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 3: of course they're trying to drive him out because he's 135 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: the one Democrat that I could see at this point 136 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: that is making common sense arguments and that's a big 137 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: no no in the Party of Crazy. We're speaking of 138 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: Joe Conca Fox News and of course his book out 139 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: this week, the greatest comeback ever Inside Trump's Big Beautiful Campaign, 140 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: probably the biggest, the most beautiful of all campaigns all time. 141 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 3: And Joe, what happens now? You know, I know you've 142 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 3: covered the media a lot. You're a media guy who 143 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 3: covers media. You covered them for many years. And for example, 144 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: we have discussed on this show that there's another book 145 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 3: that will be coming out next month which we don't 146 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 3: have to give the title of, not that we didn't 147 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: even know the title, but where Jake Tapper of CNN 148 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: has team up with a Axios reporter or political Alex tos. Yeah, 149 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: to write a book about the Biden dementia cover up? 150 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: What is the possible rationale to be in the Democrat 151 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: aligned media and writing a book now about the Biden 152 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: dementia cover up? If you weren't walking around wearing a 153 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: bright orange T shirt saying, guys are our man has dementia? 154 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: He can't be president anymore? When it mattered, like, what's 155 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: the game plan here? The game plan is three letters 156 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: buck c why A. They're going to pretend that they 157 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: actually were covering this and covering it in a tough way. 158 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: You could probably find the SoundBite. It's from twenty twenty. 159 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: Laura Trump is on CNN with Jake Tapper and she 160 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: says that she believes that Joe Biden is going through 161 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: a cognitive decline, which was obvious even during that campaign, 162 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: and Tapper just scolds her, says, no, it's a stutter. Oh, 163 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: you don't have any proof of that. We don't like 164 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: conspiracy theories on this network. And you're like, oh, boy, 165 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: so you know pain is temporary, but film is forever. 166 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: So please, but let's play that clip as much as 167 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: possible on this show. Because for Jake Tapper now to 168 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 3: turn around then talk about how the media missed the 169 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: story about Joe Biden's cognitive decline. Alex Thompson, who wrote 170 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: this with him, kept saying this at the White House 171 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: Correspondents Center, that reporters missed the story, that they were 172 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: deceived by the White House. No, there's no story to miss. 173 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: If you had eyes, ears, sobriety and sanity, you could 174 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: see Joe Biden shaking hands with the air after he 175 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: finished his speech. You could see you to know how 176 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 3: to get off a stage after doing it for fifty years. 177 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: You could see he's like the kid from the sixth Sense, 178 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 3: having conversations with dead people, in this case, like dead leaders. 179 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: You don't need to be told by a White House 180 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: source that Joe Biden's having problems. You just needed to 181 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: observe him five minutes outside of a teleprompter, where he 182 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 3: was a human chernobyl when speaking outside of one. 183 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: Where did democrats go from here? You're writing the book 184 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: about the greatest political comeback. To be fair, if you 185 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: had been on with us in May of twenty twenty 186 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: one and you had said, hey, guys, Trump's gonna win 187 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: it lnslide victory in November twenty twenty four. I don't 188 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: think it's going to be close. A lot of people 189 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: would have said that's a bold prediction. I wouldn't have 190 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: bought onto it then. Obviously we're now in May of 191 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. It doesn't feel like Democrats have any 192 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: future at all. 193 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 3: Bluck. I don't know if you've seen this. 194 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: CBS News has a big expose up about Kamala Harris. 195 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: They say she's not sure what she's gonna do, but 196 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: she her options are she may do nothing at all, 197 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: she may run for governor, or she may run for president. 198 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: So they have an entire feature where they say she 199 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: could do anything. Where does Kamala go from here? She's 200 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: the defeated candidate. It's May twenty twenty five. Is her 201 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: career over or not? And who are the Democrats? 202 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: Do you buye? 203 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: Stephen A. 204 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: Smith? 205 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: Do you think there's any outsiders? Who are the Democrats 206 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: that might emerge as we get closer to. 207 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty eight? Okay, Clay, So if we're going to 208 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: apply logic here, then Democrats would be wise to nominate 209 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: Andy Vasher Kentucky governor. I know he's a bit vanilla. 210 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 3: I know he's boring, and you need to have a 211 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: performative aspect to every campaign. We saw with Obama, we 212 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: saw it with Trump. If Biden doesn't count because that 213 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: was COVID and that that was like the bubble year 214 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: when the Lakers won the championship. I can't even count that, right, 215 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: That wasn't a normal thing. 216 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: Let me let me pause here for a sec. Andy 217 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: Basheer is the biggest pussy willow on the planet. 218 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 2: I want. 219 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: I have to add willow. I hope they nominate him. 220 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: He is the most milk toast, complete loser with no 221 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: spine whatsoever. He would get obliterated, but he might be 222 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 3: their pick. Sorry, I just have to put that in there. 223 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: This guy, I hate to say it because he went 224 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: to Vanderbilt or both the bumps on the same school, 225 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: but he's a total loser with no spont Wow. Okay, 226 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to go pussy Willow, but I wasn't sure 227 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: if the SEC would have like that problem with that. 228 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 3: So you have to add the willow. The willis the 229 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 3: whole thing. Yeah, no, I totally agree, blank Willow. That 230 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: was from the Howard Stern movie Let's see so. But 231 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: but my my mild retort would be that he is 232 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: at sixty eight percent approval in a red state like Kentucky. 233 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: So I don't believe it. 234 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 3: I don't believe Yeah, okay, yeah, good, I liked I 235 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: like when Tennessee sticks up for Kentucky on this one. 236 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: Clay is like, you know what, I'm naughty. I'm not 237 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: gonna throw Kentucky under the bus and believe it's seventy 238 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 3: percent of them actually like their governor. Yes, that's great, 239 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: but you're right about twenty twenty one. I never would 240 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 3: have predicted that Trump would be sitting where he is today. 241 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 3: I was on board with Ron DeSantis. I was publicly 242 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 3: on board with Ron de Santis. I thought that he 243 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: was Trump without the baggage, without the ninety four felony accounts, 244 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: without not a hostile media, but not as hostile the media. 245 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: But it probably would have happened anyway. But the way 246 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 3: he was running Florida, he wins by eighteen points in 247 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, and I go down there to do 248 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 3: a speech. It was in Naples, Florida, and there's maybe 249 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: two two hundred and fifty people there, and I did 250 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 3: a straw poll, like who would you like to be 251 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 3: the nominee on the Republican side, And I thought that 252 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: DeSantis would get half the votes because he just did 253 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: so well in that election. And DeSantis maybe got ten percent. 254 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: Nicki Haley got like one percent, and the other ninety 255 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 3: basically went to Donald Trump. I'm a boy, no one's 256 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: going anywhere. They are loyal to this man. And that's 257 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: when I started to change my mind about Trump. As 258 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 3: for her, kammal or her career is over. I don't 259 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: even think she could win in California. You remember in 260 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen when she ran for president, she dropped out 261 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: before the California primary because she was pulling at sixth 262 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: place in California, her own state, behind Andrew friggin Yang. 263 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: I mean, so, I don't know. After this election, I 264 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 3: think a lot of people saw that she's all foam 265 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 3: and no beer, all bubbles and no bath. And this 266 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: is somebody that if they nominate her, they could lose 267 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: fifty one states, which is mathematically impossible, but I think 268 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: it would be that bad. Then the other alternative is AOC, 269 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: which she has the energy. I guess she has a 270 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: social media following, She has never passed one piece of 271 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: legislation since she's been in Congress. Sure, but that doesn't matter, 272 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: I guess in this world. So I could see AOC 273 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: But then again, she could really win Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia, 274 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 3: North Carolina, Arizona, Nevada. I can't see her doing well 275 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 3: in those states. So I don't know where Democrats go here. 276 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 3: It's probably someone we're not even talking about, like a 277 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 3: Mark Cuban or somebody like that. 278 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: God forbid, Joe, go get the book. We encourage everybody 279 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: to check it out. Give us the title one more 280 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: time for people as they roll into the weekend. 281 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll give you the title that I wanted, all right, 282 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: The greatest comeback ever inside Trump's big, beautiful campaign, unburdened 283 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: by what has been. But they said I couldn't put 284 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: the lastart on because there wasn't enough real state on 285 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: the cover. 286 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: So go figure. 287 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, the greatest comeback ever. Thank you guys. It's 288 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: a bestseller. Awesome, Joe Kanca. You'll see them on Fox News. 289 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 3: You can find them in your bookstores. Best comeback to ever. 290 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: Go check it out. I want to tell you it 291 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 3: is not Mother's day yet. Okay, so I don't want 292 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: all the men out there to panic. 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Join Clay 324 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 4: and Buck as they lap it up in the Klay 325 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: and Buck podcast beat. 326 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: On the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 327 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We got Paul Morrow 328 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: of Fox News formerly the NYPD joining us here in 329 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 3: a few minutes to talk about the series he's launching 330 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: on Fox Business. And also when I ask him about 331 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: the law enforcement piece, you know, Stephen Miller said something 332 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: really interesting about what's going to happen with the deportations, 333 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: which is he said state and local law enforcement are 334 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: going to get involved very interesting Clay, because up to 335 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: this point, in a lot of places, state and local 336 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 3: law enforcement are barred from assisting federal immigration authorities by 337 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: the state and local authorities themselves by elected officials. Right, 338 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: So the Mayor of New York essentially can say NYPD 339 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: can't help immigrations and customs enforcement. But there may be 340 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 3: some leverage to get that changed. Last week, I was 341 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: with Tom Homan and he said, I think I can 342 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: say it now. Wait two weeks, We're going to have 343 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: some big news for you. I think they're going to 344 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: go after some of these sanctuary city laws and some 345 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: of these sanctuary city politicians and say, hey, if you 346 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: are helping to conceal illegal immigrants, you're violating federal law 347 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: and we're going to start to come after you. And 348 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: that's going to set off some fireworks, and as Steven 349 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 3: Miller said, it will also then force the courts to say, hey, 350 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: does the president have the ability to do this? Tom 351 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: Holman's rock star dude. 352 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: That guy's such an amazing guy. 353 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: So Steve, it's funny we actually get home in Stephen Miller. 354 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: I mean, these are. 355 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: The krem de la krem of the Trump White House 356 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: and the Trump inner Circle on policy and they're doing 357 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: great things for the American people. We got a funny 358 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: talk back here, Bob from Beaumont. This is BB and Beaumont, 359 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 3: Texas listens on a five sixty KLV. I play it, hey, 360 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: Clayan book. 361 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 5: My wife and I when we were dating, she moved 362 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 5: in with me, and she grabbed every other side of 363 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 5: the furniture, the mattresses, everything boxes. She pulled her weight. 364 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: And she's a hot chick. So you know, there is. 365 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: Most important one do work most importantly, Bob, congrats on 366 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: having a hot chick wife. And secondly, let's just say, Clay, 367 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: if someone's I'm gonna throw a little bit of a 368 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: flag on this. If someone's moving in with you, I 369 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: think that changes the calculation a little bit. Yeah, they 370 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: might want to help a little more. 371 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 372 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: And also they may not trust you to move their stuff. 373 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: I don't know right now, Laura, my wife is downstairs. 374 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 3: Buck. 375 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: If you told me what's the most miserable thing you 376 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: could be doing this weekend, she's trying to distinguish between 377 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: different palettes for the colors of the new chairs in 378 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: our house, and just looking at it gave me hives, 379 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: Like I would be tell her to call care because 380 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: she would loves that stuff. 381 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: So they could just you know, go back and forth 382 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: on it. 383 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 3: Look, there's a company in Michigan making modern day walkie 384 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 3: talkies that are really cool rapid radios. 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All right, 404 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 3: honored two bring to you first time on the program. 405 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 3: I am Paul Morrow, former NYPD inspector, attorney and founder 406 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 3: of opsdesk dot org. Also formerly my boss and the 407 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 3: chain of command at the NYPD Intelligence Division. Paul, it's 408 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: going back fifteen years now. I'm getting old, my friend. 409 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 3: You know, I got to think back to these times now, 410 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: and I was I was just a young buck making 411 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 3: my way in the world. And I appreciated your your 412 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 3: steadfast leadership in the Intel Division, always doing a great job. 413 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 3: So thank you for being here with us. 414 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: First and foremost of course, thank you for having me. 415 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: Fuck you haven't changed. I gotta tell you look the same, brother, 416 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: Thank you. That is true. 417 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: I definitely, I definitely do look the same. A little 418 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 3: more little hair, yeah, you know, the hair is still there. 419 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: I'm a lucky man. So you're launching, let's talk about 420 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 3: this for a second. If you're launching a new weekly 421 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: Fox Nation show, Karen Reid Retrial Live. So you know, 422 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 3: my wife is a little more into the true crime 423 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,239 Speaker 3: stuff than I am, which I don't think think I'm 424 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 3: the only guy in America who's going to say that. 425 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: But the Karen Reid trial, we haven't talked about this 426 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 3: on the show. Can you tell everybody, like why this 427 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,239 Speaker 3: has fascinated so many people? They're all focused in on 428 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: this what's going on? 429 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: So the stories are so divergent, and obviously only one 430 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: side can be true, and this is one of those 431 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: things where there are undeniably strong indicators on both sides. Now, look, 432 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: I incline heavily towards the law enforcement side of things. 433 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: The idea that something like five different agencies and well 434 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: into double figures all colluded to try to frame this woman, 435 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: I find preposterous. And now apparently that conspiracy has grown 436 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: to include the forensics team that dumped the phone of 437 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: a woman named Jen McCabe, who's the prime witness. So 438 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: that is kind of the beauty of the defense of 439 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: a police conspiracy because everything can come under that rubric, 440 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: and so as the prosecution presents its evidence, the implication 441 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: on the defense side is these people have all been 442 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: co opted into some sort of a police conspiracy. But 443 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: that is something that you only need one juror to entertain. 444 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 2: For Karen Reid to this time around. She remember she 445 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: was tried once already and the jury hung. You only 446 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 2: need one to have either beyond a reasonable doubt questions 447 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: to hang the jury, or if you can get all 448 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: twelve to have the reasonable doubt, you have an acquittal. 449 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: So despite the fact that there is some really compelling 450 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: evidence in my mind and that should likely hold sway here, 451 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: there is this what happened? 452 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that everybody listening knows just the what 453 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 3: are the basic facts of the case of this paren 454 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 3: Reid trial, because I know in the true crime world 455 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 3: everyone's watching this, they're fastening. There's a network series I 456 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 3: think out on this right now. What happened? 457 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: Oh, there's several Oh all right, So she comes back 458 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 2: from drinking at a bar with her boyfriend. They're not living, 459 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: but they practically live together, etc. And they go to 460 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: a house party after they're out at this bar with 461 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: a bunch of people, and they're invited back to this 462 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 2: house party, and a lot of the same people are 463 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 2: at the house party as we're at the bar. That's 464 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 2: where the stories diverge. He claims that he went in 465 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: the house, never to be seen alive again by her, 466 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: and that in the house, something happened and he was 467 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: dumped on the lawn to expire from blunt force's trauma 468 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: and hypothermia. On the prosecution side, they say that she 469 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: let him out of the car to go into the house. 470 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: They were having an argument. She reversed into him, hit him, 471 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: he fell backwards, bumped his head on the curb. It 472 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 2: was the night of a historic blizzard in New England. 473 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: This is all happening in Massachusetts, and then she leaves 474 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: the scene. Now that from there, that's the basic facts 475 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: of the two sides of things, and that's with a 476 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 2: story diverge. And one of the things that emerges when 477 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 2: you tease it out is, even under the fact pattern 478 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: that the prosecution is a legend, can you get to 479 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: the point that it is an intentional murder? And a 480 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 2: lot of people feel the question becomes was the case overcharged? 481 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: Because she's charged with murder two intentional murder and then 482 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: manslaughter and then leaving the scene charge. So those are 483 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: the two sides of things, and there are strong indicators 484 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 2: on both sides. 485 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 3: What's the motivation why? 486 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 1: I mean, she was angry at him, but is this 487 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: a couple that had a history of domestic violence? 488 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 3: I'm like Buck, I have not followed these cases. Sometimes 489 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 3: I get super fascinated by them. I bet a lot 490 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 3: of our audience is very well informed. I've bet a 491 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 3: lot of them also have not been following this. You 492 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: laid out the two different arguments, But what was the 493 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: motive to precipitate the argument in general? What was their relationship? 494 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: Like? 495 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: Why would something like I think most people would say, hey, 496 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: getting in a fight and all betting. There was a 497 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: lot of alcohol involved, which makes it more difficult to 498 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: know anybody who has ever been outside in cold weather. 499 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: That's one of the dangers when you drink is you 500 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: don't feel the cold in the same way. And if 501 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,239 Speaker 1: she's driving and she's been consuming alcohol, that certainly can 502 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: impact things. How would we assess that? 503 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: So certainly they were drinking. The video they pulled from 504 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: the night in the bar and they've been at another 505 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: bar first has her drinking about nine drinks. They were 506 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 2: all drinking a lot, There's no doubt about that. And 507 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 2: in fact, she has nine drinks with sidecars. In other words, 508 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: of nine. 509 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: Drinks that I've seen her picture, she weighs like one 510 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty pounds. I mean, we're not talking about 511 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: nine drinks for like a three hundred and fifty pound guy. 512 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: That's right. And then she drives. She's the one who's driving, remember, 513 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: and all this comes into play because it damages potentially 514 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: her recollections of what occurred. So they're all banged up. 515 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: There's no toys about that. They drive to the house party. 516 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: She's never been to the house before they they get there. Now, look, 517 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: there's no in Disha of any domestic violence in the past. 518 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: But you raise a really salient question because what is 519 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: there is after she lets him out of the car 520 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: under either fact pattern, when they dump his phone, they 521 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: get voicemails from her to him, and she is screaming 522 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: at him. And there's something like fifty sixty calls from 523 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: her over the next couple of hours where she is screaming, cursing, Adam, 524 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: yelling at him. Is why that matters. Sure, it indicates 525 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: that the relationship was praying, they'd only been together a 526 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 2: couple of years, etc. But what it also indicates to 527 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: me is that she thought he was alive. She's leaving 528 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 2: him these messages. She does sound to me like she's acting. 529 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 2: So if she's yelling at him, she thinks he's alive, 530 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: she thinks he's going to get these messages. Well, then 531 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: this to me undermines the idea that the murder was intentional. 532 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: And so that's why a lot of people do feel 533 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: like the case maybe it was overcharged, and that the 534 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: manslaughter charge that is an intent to injure results in death, 535 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 2: that might have been a more reasonable top charge. 536 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 3: Not to mention, if she's that drunk and driving a car, 537 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 3: she may be reckless to your point, but the intent 538 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 3: of committing a murder, she might not have even been 539 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 3: capable of it, right because she might be engaging in 540 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 3: reckless behavior. But also she's so drunk she might not 541 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 3: have been able to even understand exactly what she was doing. 542 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: So generally in the law, the idea that you were 543 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: incapacitated due to your own actions. You were drinking, you 544 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: were on drugs, et cetera is not going to be 545 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 2: a defense. Where it can sometimes come in is under 546 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: a diminished capacity calculus in the sentencing phase. So you know, 547 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: we'd have to see if you know that has any 548 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: impact on the way this goes with the judge and 549 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 2: so forth, if it gets that far. But at this 550 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 2: point in the proceedings. The key witnesses have already in 551 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: my mind, taken the stand. The prosecution really front loaded 552 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 2: things and that is the and you know, Buck, you're 553 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: well familiar with this. We were doing this when you 554 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: were at the PD. The forensic digital work on the 555 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: phones involved here in addition to the phone stuff I 556 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 2: just talked about from one of the witnesses, one man 557 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: Jen McCabe, who's been testifying they dumped her phone at 558 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: two twenty seven. The original allegation was that Jen mccab 559 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: googled how long to die in the cold. If that 560 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: happened to two twenty seven, Karen Reid has got to 561 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: get off because the body's not found till oh six 562 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 2: hundred six o'clock actually about six twenty. However, the firm 563 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 2: that dumped the phone, firm called Celebrate, which Buck and 564 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: I worked with. We did all kinds of work with them. 565 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: It's an Israeli firm, the top of the food chain 566 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 2: when it comes to digital forensics. They now have had 567 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: to come back and cop to the fact that their 568 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: software didn't really get it right. And this time around 569 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: it's probably the most compelling prosecution witness who now says 570 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: that search was done by Jen McCabe at six twenty three. 571 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: If that's the case, it happened after the body was found, 572 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: and then Jen McCain took the stand and said, yes, 573 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: that's exactly what happened. And in fact, I did that 574 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: search because Karen Reid asked me to do it at 575 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: the scene when we found a body. So if you 576 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 2: believe Jen McCabe and the Google forensics guy, it's not Google, 577 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: but it was a Google search. If you believe to 578 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 2: celebrate guy, then you really got to come out and 579 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: saying to yourself, Karen Reid's been lying about this and 580 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: it looks bad for her. 581 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 3: All Right, I'm sold. I'm watching Paul Morrow's new show, 582 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: Karen Reid Retrial Live. My wife, I think is going 583 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 3: to be She likes the true crime stuff. She's gonna 584 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 3: love this, so we're going have to check this out. 585 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 3: It's on Fox Nation, Paul. 586 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 2: It is on Fox Nation Live today starting it through. 587 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: We got an all star cast coming in. It's not 588 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: just me, I'm just the host. I'm the goalie. But 589 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: we're gonna be doing it every week Friday at three, 590 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: recapping this case as long as it goes on, and 591 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: a lot of drama coming. 592 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 3: Oh, that's great, that's gonna be coming up then right 593 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 3: after we finished here, so folks can go tune right 594 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 3: in at three eastern on Fox Nation if I could, Paul, 595 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 3: I want to switch gears for a second and draw 596 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: upon your extensive NYPD experience. You know, we had Steven 597 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: Miller on before, who's a senior White House You know, 598 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 3: Steve Miller is a senior White House guy works a 599 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 3: lot of the immigrant on the immigration piece. He was 600 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: talking about getting more cooperation from local law enforcement on 601 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: immigration issues for federal law enforcement. Can you lay out 602 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 3: you know, we worked in a place where because it's terrorism, FBI, 603 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: US marshalls, NYPD, everybody's trying to work together for the 604 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,479 Speaker 3: same mission on immigration. That is not the case, right. 605 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 3: Can you give everyone some census to what some of 606 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 3: the rules are, what some of the walls that are 607 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 3: implemented by the mayor, the governor, et cetera, so that 608 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: NYPD can and can't what can they do, what can 609 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: they not do when it comes to helping ice. 610 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 2: All right, So all of this started under the previous mayor, 611 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: who was not a disaster for this city, a guy 612 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: named Doblasio and he put through two pieces of legislation 613 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: in conjunction with the City Council making New York City 614 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: a sanctuary city. And that's really the salient thing. We're 615 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: also a sanctuary state, but nypedia City employees, and that's 616 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: what applies now. The out even in this legislation, the 617 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: out is that if you are a member of a 618 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: task force, a federal task force, well then you're federalized 619 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: and you can do immigration enforcement. You can look into 620 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: a person's immigration status, and that can be a lever 621 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: that you use as part of a criminal case. And 622 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: that's why, Buck, when you and I were in the 623 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: task force. Now, those laws were not in place yet, 624 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: but even had they been, we would have been carved 625 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: out of it as members of a task force. If 626 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: you're not a member of the task force. Now it 627 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: becomes a policy and law issue, sort of ping pong game. 628 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: The policy issue is as follows, they won't ut a 629 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: detainer's now a detainer is not in order from a judge. 630 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: That is something that essentially Ice says, we conjured this. 631 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: We need a detainer. He's in jail. We need you 632 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: to hang on to him for a couple of days. 633 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: So we can go get them, and essentially the local 634 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: jurisdictions in sanctuary cities say no, we're not gonna do that. 635 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: They probably can't get away with that even if we 636 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: go forward and run all the legal traps on it, 637 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: because it's a separate sovereign state, the federal, etc. We 638 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: have more trouble. And we're seeing this come to a 639 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: head now in the case in Milwaukee. Is this judge 640 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: who tried to hide this guy and slip them out 641 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 2: the back door? Why because Ice had a warrant, and 642 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter that it was not from a judge. 643 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: She tried to hang her hat on that. This is 644 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 2: not a judicial warrant. This is an administrative warrants. Some 645 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: federal agencies can issue their own warrants. This was an 646 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 2: arrest warrant, period, and the story the guy was amenable 647 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: to deportation, They came with the proper PaperWorks. She tried 648 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: to slide them out of the door. That's why that 649 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: case is so important because ICE can issue administrative warrants 650 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: all day long. And if the Feds win that case, 651 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: which I think they're gonna, you're gonna now put in 652 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 2: you're going to compromize the idea that the ICE warrants, 653 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: the administrative warrants have the force of law and judges 654 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: you can't get in a way. So now Ice knows 655 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: a body's gonna be because these guys all get locked up. 656 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: You know that buck Dale commit robberies, etc. So now 657 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: you know where they're gonna be. They're gonna be in 658 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 2: state court. They got to go in front of a judge. 659 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: You wait in the hallway, just like these guys were doing. 660 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: You know, they didn't budge into her courtroom. This was 661 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: all ego. She didn't want them in her building. In 662 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: the sudd of nonsense. You don't own the building. It's 663 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: a pro public building. They didn't go into her courthouse. 664 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: They waited in the hallway, which is what Warren cops 665 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: do all the time. Now Ice can wait in the 666 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 2: hallway when they know these guys are gonna be there, 667 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: they come out boom, You got them. Nobody can get 668 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: in the way, and out they go. And this is 669 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: crucial to the worst first paradigm that the Trump administration 670 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: wants to put into place. I think they win this one, 671 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: and god speed to them, because they should. 672 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 3: Paul Morrow, everybody go check out Karen Reid retrial Live 673 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: coming up here in just a few minutes on Fox Nation. 674 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 3: Inspect Tomorrow always an honors. Come back and talk to 675 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: us again soon. 676 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: Oh, anytime, You guys are the best. Love it. 677 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: Thank him sounds fantastic. 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You guys know, I live in Tennessee. 700 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: Buck just ducked out by the way for the last 701 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: couple of minutes of the show, but I saw this. 702 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 3: He'll be back Monday. 703 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 2: Don't worry. 704 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: Cheryl Crowe, who frankly had a lot of music that 705 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: I liked back in the day, she said that she 706 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: struggles living in a red state like Tennessee. Calls her 707 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: congress members every single morning, and this is in Variety. 708 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: She lives here in Nashville, and she said she's uncomfortable 709 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: with the state as a whole because of its conservative 710 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: leadership and quote, Tennessee is a hard place for me. 711 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: I struggle. I call my representatives every single morning. Andy 712 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: Ogle's really good guy. Marsha Blackburn, you heard her here 713 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: on the show. They hear from me every day because 714 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: we have to stand up and be vocal and fight 715 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: for the future for our kids. This is crazy talk, 716 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: and I sometimes think that people like Cheryl Crow are 717 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: going to move here to the state of Tennessee and 718 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 1: they're going to try and take over what I consider 719 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: to be one of the best places to live in America. 720 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: And one of our talkbacks wanted to weigh in on this, 721 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: and that was, let's see CC from Colorado. Paul certainly 722 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: understands that because I know a lot of y'all living 723 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: in Colorado used to live in a sane state and 724 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: then a lot of crazy people moved in and now 725 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: your state has some crazy politics. 726 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 3: But here's CEC. 727 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 6: Plan is for you. I wanted to see you get 728 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 6: your take on Cheryl Crow read an article on Fox 729 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 6: Newsday today that she's moved to she's living in Tennessee now, 730 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 6: and she's complaining about the policies and all the Trump 731 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 6: supartners she has to live amongst. 732 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 2: I just wanted to get your take. 733 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 6: On it on a see what you say about him. 734 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: Have a good beginning, you guys. 735 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: So I'm cautiously optimistic because I know a lot of 736 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: you out there in Texas or Florida, or Georgia or Tennessee, 737 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: places where people have North Carolina, South Carolina, in the 738 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: South where lots of people have moved in. I talk 739 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: about this quite a lot, including with Marsha Blackburn ANDed 740 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: with Andy Ogles. The data reflects that these states are 741 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: actually getting redder, that the people who are moving in 742 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: fleeing from a Chicago from a New York City. Buck 743 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: is a refugee now lives in Florida, California. People are 744 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: moving here for the politics, not in spite of the politics. 745 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: And I think that's why COVID has created red Redder, 746 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: and I think the power and influence and significance of 747 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,439 Speaker 1: red states only going to continue to grow. We love 748 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: you guys, have fabulous weekends. Enjoy the Kentucky Derby. We'll 749 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: be back with all of you Monday