WEBVTT - Camila Cabello: From Harmony to Havana (Part Two) 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:08.320 Hi am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson. 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:11.160 We wanted to do something that highlighted our. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:19.440 Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:21.000 a sibling rivalry. 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:31.960 No, no sibling. You don't do that with your mouth revelry. 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:34.400 That's good. 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.960 Part two. 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:48.440 Part in French, I would say it's not part. 0:00:49.680 --> 0:01:02.240 Gerald, Gerald, God welcome. 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.560 I have a question, So when did you start to 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:14.959 become known and what was that like? Were you super little? 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:17.640 Do you even remember? I was like five, yeah, so 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.400 you don't even remember on video. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.080 It's just crazy because I was on X Factor, you know, 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.319 I was just having a time talking random people. 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:31.039 There was one video that one video of her talking 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.240 to fans and she was so sassy and she was 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:34.039 like she. 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.520 Was like, my sister loves Justin Bieber. 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.959 Well it was Harry Styles and I lied saying that 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:44.720 it was just In Beiber so technically I did. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.320 But it's the cutest video. She's like five and she's 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.840 like she wants to marry him. She's like cute with 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.760 like her little ring like curls like she was so's 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:55.600 so cute. 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.520 So you don't remember, like life before your sister was 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.000 a big pop star. 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.200 I didn't really see a difference, to be honest. 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:04.640 Yeah at all. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:05.880 It's just what you always know. 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.440 Yeah, like it's just my sister. Like I don't see 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.800 her as like the like pop star, Like it's my sister. 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:12.120 I'm just your struggling sister. 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:19.839 Yeah, but you don't ever watch her and have sort 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:23.120 of like do you get excited for her? Like when like. 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.239 Confused, I like found out that like things were pre 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.920 recorded on TV because we were on she was on 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.080 X Factor and I saw her on the screen and 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.160 I remember my shock of I was like, wait, if 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.720 she's right there, she's also right next to me on 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:40.519 the couch. And that's when I like figured out the 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:41.720 TVs were pre recorded. 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.640 That's so funny. Oh that's really cute. 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:46.800 I freaked out when I was like, how is she 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.000 next to me and on TV at the same time? 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.480 Where did music come from for you? Was it your 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.760 own or was it something you were around when you. 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.760 Were around a lot of music. 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.359 I think we have a very musical thing, but like singing, 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:03.200 Oh my gosh, like my dad, that's like his outings. 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:07.680 Yeah, he's a karaoke machine. 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.400 You know that. Vine miel I love that. 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:13.800 Guy, Miguel, the R and B artist. I love Miguel. 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:19.360 No, it's not Miguel Miel Yeah, like that's like his outlet. 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:25.000 What's the name of it, Louis but Louise Miguel Oliver. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and so did he. So he sings, 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:32.040 he sings. 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.560 Our grandma is obsessed with music. She would make like 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.000 mixtapes of boletros, which are kind of like Cuban. 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:41.040 Ballads, like we for Father's Day. We rewrote the lyrics. 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:44.720 To this song to make it like about our dad, 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:46.640 and we did like a funny music video to it 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:47.320 was really cute. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.080 So okay. So so when you want. 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.240 Such as an awesome family, I just it's you can 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.000 pretty feel. I don't even know any of y'all. But 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:55.960 if you feel like. 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.160 A lot of love, thank you, I mean. 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.880 For real, you know, especially with them being here. 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.880 I know it's so true. And how is that for you? 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.240 In terms of like I always say, for me that 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:13.240 I know that my relationship to my work and my 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.240 whatever that sort of celebrity is on the outside, which 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.560 doesn't really feel real. Yeah, I'd have a very different 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.320 relationship to it if I didn't have such a great 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.720 grounded family, like for. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:28.480 Sure, because that can end up being where you want 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.320 to get your love from, right. And I feel like 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.240 to me, I'm always like you know, I also think 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.240 when you were saying, like, what's it like like your 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:39.479 sister's celebrity or whatever, I think she's also seen she 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:41.599 sees all the behind the scenes of it in the 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.640 sense of like when I'm having a hard time, when 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:47.440 I am stressed by work things, when I'm always like, hey, 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.960 wish I do about this? Like hey, like I don't 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.560 really understand, Like I'm like I don't know about TikTok, 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:54.320 like it makes me feel bad, like blah blah blah. 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:58.400 Like I feel like you're always you really have helped 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.320 me through a lot of those things. I feel like 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.280 it's like that with our family, where it's like whatever 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.640 we do, it's like an enterprise that we do together. 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.479 Same with like your acting, Like I'm like, okay, like 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:09.720 what's the best school that you. 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.240 Can go to? What's the best you know what I mean. 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.360 So it's almost like your dream is like everyone's dream, 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:15.440 which is kind of nice. 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.520 But and you're happy. Do you want and you're happy totally? 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:20.760 Do you want the stardom? Do you want the fame? 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:22.120 It's a weird question because. 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:26.080 Most of you know, I just like, I like very 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.479 heavy on the fact that like, like movies helped me 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.800 so much, and like whenever I'm like having a bad day, 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.560 like I lock myself in my room and I watch 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.760 like every movie like ever possible, that like comfort movies, 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:38.440 and like I just like I want to be that 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:39.240 for somebody. 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.240 Okay, but what if I told you your passion? 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:42.839 I got to ask this question. What if I told 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:48.200 you that you would have that experience, but it would 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:52.599 be say regional in one area, you would be you know, 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.320 you would be able to have all of your dreams 0:05:56.360 --> 0:06:00.760 of making movies and acting, but you wouldn't be famous. 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.280 I'd honestly be okay with that. Yeah, It's like then 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:07.480 you still get you still get like whatever the money, 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.360 you can do whatever. But like I can still walk 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:11.039 around and like nobody like you know what I mean, 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:11.960 if there's. 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.839 No money, what is community theater? 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:18.080 If community theater, well then I'd have to also have 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:21.039 another job. Trust that then I'd have to do like 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.120 psychology or like what if like my new job now 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:25.960 I can't do acting while doing h. 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.240 Kurt said to me, And like what if I told 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.719 you it would only be community theater and like you 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.960 would have to substitute, I'd be like, I'd still do 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.720 it because I love joy totally and he and and 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.880 the thing is is like that that is the because 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.760 it's so tumultuous as you know, seeing what you know, 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:48.719 anything like performance based or creative that is really about 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.839 like it's only like if people don't want to watch it, 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:54.400 if people don't want to go see it, then you're 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.000 not going to be able to go do that and work. 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:01.120 You know. It's like it's it's really reliant on it 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.800 is so many other people and so many other things 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.599 acting even more so than what you do. It's like, 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.720 you know, if you get the job, like oh my god, amazing. 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:17.760 So if what brings you happiness is like only that, 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.840 then you're just so you're just fucked. There's just because 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.000 you're gonna be so unhappy because it's like you're always 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.440 reliant on someone else to get you that job. It's 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:27.400 really interesting. 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.280 Well, I think it's the only similarity I feel like 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:34.200 with music is that the people that are I don't know, 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:39.080 instead of a director, you're counting on people. The volatility 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.520 and the ups and downs of whatever people's tastes are, 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.040 what they like, what they don't like. So I think 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.240 there is like there's an interesting concept where it's like 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.640 there's a slight danger in the thing that you love 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.160 that's a hobby also kind of being interwoven with business too, 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:56.239 because you're like you would do it for free because 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.800 you love it so much, but then suddenly it just 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:00.440 kind of can get more complex. 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:01.960 I mean, I don't regret at all. 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.640 Us How do you navigate that though, because you're navigating 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.080 art and commerce, I guess meaning, yeah, okay, well this 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.800 is what I feel like, but but now it's like 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:15.960 labels or this isn't really what's hot totally totally how 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:17.680 do you how do you do that? How do you 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:19.880 go about that? Is it like one for me, one 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:20.560 for them? 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:24.160 I think it's honestly constant soul searching for me. I 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.800 feel like it's like I never find the answer. 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:30.480 Do you have to compromise being like, fuck, I don't 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.400 really want to do this, but I know it's I 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.720 know it's I know what, I know why I have to. 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.040 I haven't in a really long time. But that also, 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.560 you know, that's also sometimes you don't get as much 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:46.199 maybe commerce that way. So it's something that I I'm 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.520 always kind of juggling. 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:49.040 And thinking about. 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:50.600 But I do think that's why it's so important to 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.640 I feel for for people who don't have that family system, 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.800 because it can be like I want to get my 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:03.440 love and support from these people, and for me, I'm like, 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:08.000 you know what, no matter what, I have a lot 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:09.839 of love in my life. Yeah, it doesn't matter, and 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.080 I try to come from it from more of a 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:17.600 source of giving in the sense I know that sounds terrible, 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.280 but like, I don't want to make myself sound like, 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.880 oh my god, like whatever. I'm not like a doctor 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:26.440 or an astronaut or whatever. But from the perspective of like, 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.560 how can I just like share my gifts with people 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.360 in a way that brings them happiness and joy as 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.720 opposed to what can I get out of it? 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.520 Because I feel like this the latter. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:40.640 Makes me feel kind of anxious and graspy, and the 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:42.440 other one makes me feel like, how can I make 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.839 the best music in the best video so that other 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:45.760 people are inspired. 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:52.080 I remember when my ex fiance Bing's dad invited me 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.920 to his show and I didn't really know him, as 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:59.240 an artist. But I went to Paris and I, you know, 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:00.960 got in the car with him and we were going 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.080 to the show, and I didn't realize that he was 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.680 playing like the stod like Stade de France and it 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:09.720 was like ninety thousand people and I'd never seen him live. 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:13.520 I had no idea, And I remember sitting on the 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.439 side of the stage and he was like, oh, I 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.440 see a little bit and I'm glad you're here, and 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.640 I was like, yeah, great. And then I remember watching 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.440 him and it was like watching someone just a completely 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.240 different person go out on stage and the place just 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:33.280 went completely insane and there he was like and people 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.160 were just like they fucking loved him so much. And 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:41.560 I was like, oh this, to know what that feels like, 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:49.240 to be someone in that position is must be a 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:54.960 total mind fuck because that is extreme adoration. 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:56.520 Yeah, like. 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.120 What And then and then you add like mu u 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.680 on top of it. It's very different than I think 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.640 like acting, where it's like then you add the music 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.079 on top of it, and it's just so ordained. It's 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:12.200 so highly ordained. It's so like vibration. The vibration is 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:17.600 so music, you know. And then and then that eras. 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.760 It's it's almost like Hunger Games. You're like, what is this? 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.840 And then you like walk off stage and have to 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:25.920 like live a normal life. 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:28.719 And that was the trip. 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.760 For me because I met Matt's like this is my man, 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.160 and he's like, I'm going to God in the bag, 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.720 I'm have some tea and he's like this like slight 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.880 little guy and he's like, you know, I was like, 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.360 oh is he in Parliament? And all of a sudden, Okay, 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:46.840 it's like come to a show and he comes out 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:48.720 on the stage, his hair like spiked. 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:59.080 He's like, is going on right now? Is this little 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:03.199 man that just grew ten feet? You know? It was 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:04.920 unbelievable to watch. 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:11.719 It turns to me, what you think? What do you mean? 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.319 Who are you? Yeah, I'm scared. 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:15.960 Oliver turns to me. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:17.960 We're like and the thing he turns to me, he goes, 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:23.000 I don't buy it. I don't buy it one which character? 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:23.800 Did you not buy it? 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:31.160 But there is a sense of My point is is 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:36.320 that like live performance and that kind of like like 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:42.160 immediate validation is so different than when you live behind 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.960 a camera and you exist sort of in a completely 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:50.120 different world. In this like weird circus world where people 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.880 are like totally out there and weird making these crazy 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.960 movies and it's not very glamorous at all. And then 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:57.480 all of a sudden you go on a red carpet 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.000 and people feel like they know you, but there's no 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.520 so that's all you know. And then you just have 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.280 like people who write about you, you know, you don't 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.720 get that kind of like and then maybe you know, 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:09.720 you have people come up and go, I love that movie. 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:10.240 I love your shows. 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.680 Not that instant feedback. 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.840 You know that just yeah, That's why I always like 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:17.400 wonder when you see a sibling, like I wonder what 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:21.440 that would feel like to watch her like go from 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:25.600 being like, you know, the sister that's giving you this 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.200 advice that you don't want to like I love that 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:34.080 title for me, like like don't want and being kind 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.240 of like more controlled no, and then all of a 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.320 sudden she's like out on stage like shaking her you know, 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:43.000 but like being all hot and owning it. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.800 I don't know, I feel like I can always see 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.680 like the weird sister through that, but like I like, 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.320 I do think that it's very cool. When I was younger, 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.880 I would be like a little bit more like starstruck. 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:56.360 Yeah. 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.400 Now it's like I know, like damn well, like she's tired. 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.120 Yeah, so you can see it. 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.000 You can see when she's like in it and like 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:04.920 having a time. 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.199 I can see like the complete Like I can see 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.360 her lock in like in a matter of seconds and 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.000 then she goes then I see her lockout as soon 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:12.679 as she goes back. 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:14.719 The more you see and I've found this too in 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.880 meeting people that I listened to and people who were 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.600 my kind of musical heroes, it's like the more you 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.640 kind of know them and the more you see that 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.600 behind the scenes, you're. 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.720 Just like it's less of the facade. 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.800 And smoking mirrors, and you're like, it's not it's not 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.800 really them. It's like more what they represent. You know, 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.960 that that that people love, but you kind of depersonalize it. 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.960 You're going on tour, I am, and guess who my 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:52.600 guess who are Pyro person is? 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.360 Stop it bo, You're going to do this so exciting 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:57.880 You're literally going to do the. 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:08.320 Because if I give you advice, you don't want. 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:10.440 Too many this one. Okay wait wait so yeah the tour? 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:14.040 Yeah, when is it? When are you going on tour? Exciting. 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.160 What venues are kind of venues are you playing? 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.640 We're doing some theaters, We're doing some festivals, kind of 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:21.760 a mix of things. 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:27.280 You're going, you're going together. I mean, how incredible experience. 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:28.240 She has this year. 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.320 So she's not going the whole time, which which I 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.920 love that for her going two weeks. 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.080 This is my senior year. I want like my like 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.080 summer of senior year. So I'd only be going for 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:40.640 two weeks. 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:42.480 So where and where are you gonna? You're gonna go 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:47.960 to Europe? I'm like, okay, so you're you're blowing up 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.160 in your and where are you playing in Europe? Do 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:52.840 you know, like like which venue? 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:53.160 Like where? 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:54.040 Like what areas? 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:57.680 Oh yeah, yeah, we're going to London. Okay to parents, 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:58.880 We're going to Madrid. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:00.520 Jem. 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.720 I went to Glastonbury four years ago. It was Paul 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.960 McCartney's eightieth birthday and he was headlining. And my best 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.400 friend is Stella or one of my best friends. One 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:19.240 of my best friends is Stella Stella Okay, and then 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:23.240 and then we did this really fun thing where we 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:27.440 brought like there's this hotel that we love, it's right 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:31.320 by Glastonbury and we rented the whole thing out and 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:34.920 it was just our friends and family. It was so 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:35.560 much fun. 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:36.440 That's really fun. 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:38.800 And then we all went in and out of Glastonbury 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:43.360 and I'll never forget because we had this amazing writer 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:47.000 director who I won't say, but who I am have 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:51.440 so much respect for. And I don't know what happened 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.480 to me at this festival, but it was like it 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:57.680 was like I couldn't stop crying. It was like something 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:01.040 hit me and I was like, I'm not living my 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:07.359 authentic creative life and I I was. It was like 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:09.719 and then then I had this thing about how like 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:14.679 people change, and how art is like the most it 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.560 just shapes culture and the importance of it, and like 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:20.240 what are we really putting out in the world. And 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:23.560 the day Row versus Wade was overturned, You've got the 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:26.560 Beatles who are the most were the most progressive. Like, 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:32.560 you know, I'm watching Paul McCartney sing. I thought about, 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:34.520 like all of the things he's been through in his life, 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:38.800 all of the revolutions that they've like started and been 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:42.720 a part of, and and and yet we're still in 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:47.600 this time where we're still trying to like figure it. 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:51.520 Out, figure it out, and art. 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.320 Is at this center of change. I was bawling my 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.240 eyes and then I gotten this thing and this artist 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.439 was like this writer director was like, you know, you 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.760 don't comp and I'm like, but you have to compromise, 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:06.040 and he goes, no, fuck that, you do not compromise 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.479 your art. You don't. And I thought, wow, what an 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:14.560 amazing spirit to have as she's she is very successful, 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:18.120 he's very successful, But what an amazing thing to actually 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:22.720 own is to be uncompromising. I'm still trying to figure 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.320 that out because I want everyone to feel happy and 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:28.520 I don't want to like create turbulence, and so therefore 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.480 I feel like I compromise art, but like, what an 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:35.119 amazing thing. And then out of that, like what amazing 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.200 art we have to like put out, you know, into 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.760 the world, Like if you actually think more about your art, 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.560 like it's not about what you like or what the 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.840 label wants or what they see they need. This is 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:52.600 just purely like an expression and it's going to be uncompromised. 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:56.960 It's so liberating, it is. Anyway, that's it was just 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:59.440 a rant. It was just a rant. Still, I'm sure 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.199 there was a thing, but I MADEHD and I just 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:10.760 kept going somewhere. There was a question uncompromised art, and 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:12.080 then I lost the question. 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:15.880 Yeah, I think it's like it's interesting because I do 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.040 feel like I think about it so much because I 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:21.720 do think there is a thing to feeding people. For example, 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.600 like you know, sometimes people don't just want the broccoli, 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.760 they want like, you know, the broccoli with some soy sauce, 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:32.080 like we're it doesn't Maybe it's like you you package 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:36.200 things in a way where it's like the sneaky medicine, 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.040 do you know what I mean? So I think about 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:40.600 that with with art sometimes. 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:44.520 You know, it's interesting because a true starving artist will 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:48.240 never ever ever compromise, and they will die, you know, 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.520 poor a lot of artists too, I think, yeah, so 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:55.399 but there are I think you are you can start 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:59.720 to be uncompromising once you've reached a level of success 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.520 where then you can do what the fuck you want 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.680 to do because you have to make a living as well, 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:09.520 if in fact, you want to earn money doing your art. 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:13.119 I also think that you know that the starving artist, 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:18.840 maybe you know, it could be more self serving, which 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:22.480 is fine, you know, it's like you're making it for you, yes, 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:24.840 But then sometimes it's like, well, what if this makes 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:28.240 it exactly? What if this is also what other people enjoy. 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:30.800 I don't really know the answer. I think everybody kind 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.159 of has to find it for themselves. But I do 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:34.760 think about it a lot where it's like I think 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.600 somebody told me, like you know that some artists told 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:39.480 another artist like when you make music, are you looking 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:41.080 in the mirror or are you looking at your fans? 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.040 And I feel like I'm always looking in the mirror, 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:46.800 you know what I mean. Yeah, But I was like, 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:49.960 that's really interesting, like if I what if I you know, 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:54.000 sometimes not all the times made some things that were 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:55.920 from my fans, because also there's a lot of things 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:57.800 that we enjoy that are like that. There's a lot 0:20:57.800 --> 0:20:59.399 of music that I listened to when I was younger 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:03.160 and even now where I'm like, this is just fun. 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:08.080 And maybe they also they didn't necessarily explore a new version. 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:10.080 Of themselves with it that felt so good for them. 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:11.560 But I really like it. 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:15.600 I could more for from this from the thought of 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:19.399 I am a fan, So like what do I like? 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:22.800