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Speaker 3: I really like this pick a lot pretty and you're

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Speaker 3: not going to make me like you're not putting me

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Speaker 3: in a corner because you always tried to start at

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Speaker 3: the beginning of this show telling me I didn't like

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Speaker 3: the Will Campbell pick, which I did. So the only

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Speaker 3: drawback here is a difficult first name to type. It's

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Speaker 3: not that it's not that bad. Thanks.

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Speaker 4: I definitely need more frothing at the mouth counter arguments

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Speaker 4: from the former fastest man in town.

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Speaker 3: I just want to state it for the record. Now

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Speaker 3: I'm getting made fun of for not arguing enough.

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Speaker 5: Right and also for being skinny.

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Speaker 6: Paul.

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Speaker 3: I don't mind the skinny. I was called a baby,

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Speaker 3: I was told to take my ball you go home

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Speaker 3: if I read it, and once again I was writing

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Speaker 3: I'm so tired of being right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm tired of it too. Because the Patriots have

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Speaker 7: a four and twelve.

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Speaker 5: You wanted to get rid of Tom Brady, all right.

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Speaker 4: You invited Patriots are four because of you.

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Speaker 8: I want one young im he was sick of taking

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Speaker 8: nauced I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is day three of the

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Speaker 4: NFL Draft. It is Deuce, Evan, Paul, myself. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: be here for a couple hours today. Patriots have the

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Speaker 4: fourth pick in this current round, the fourth round, so

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Speaker 4: we're going to be right at it. I think the

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Speaker 4: reviews are in, and I'll speak for myself. I thought

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Speaker 4: they had a good day yesterday.

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Speaker 7: Heck yeah, yeah I did too.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the reviews in general are overwhelming,

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Speaker 3: really positive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: It's my favorite part of the draft is when you're

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Speaker 7: Watching some of them last night.

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Speaker 8: like a running it's a real running back. Number thirty

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Speaker 3: And that was a phrase that i'd heard a lot

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Speaker 8: Fred was with Bill's drafts, like he had so much

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Speaker 7: Now with this draft, it's easy just to go home

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Speaker 8: Talked about for three months of what we want to

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Speaker 7: It just you know, that's it sounds weird to say,

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Speaker 4: And I know he shouldn't need motivation, but doesn't this

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Speaker 7: Oh sorry, I'm trying to you know, I don't want

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Speaker 7: you guys are yellowing me.

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Speaker 4: That Dyke went to the Tennessee Titans Decay? Yeah, Okay, sorry, no,

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Speaker 5: That was one of your guys, Fred back of the

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Speaker 4: He wasn't one of my guys.

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Speaker 5: I thought I couldn't sworn we talked about him.

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Speaker 8: We might have talked about I mentioned Hi because we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had, oh I see he's yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I had Tory Horton, uh, Lambert Smith, ty Felton,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, uh yeah, I was kind of interested in DK

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Speaker 8: It would have been fun with Eldrick because we've been like, hey,

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Speaker 5: They got the fastest, one of the faster guts in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't get that at first. I'm

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Speaker 5: I do think there's some edges for you dudes that

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Speaker 5: I think that that spot we all knew it was deep,

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Speaker 5: which is probably the biggest Rabel connection ever in this draft.

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Speaker 5: And uh, you know, I really liked Kyle Canard. I

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Speaker 5: hoping that one of six is an edge pick. I

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Speaker 3: I missed some of the picks, you know, crossing them

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Speaker 3: last night, is the L s U kid the edge

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Speaker 5: On Jones, there's two of them.

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Speaker 3: You're talking about Swinton, Yeah, and you were talking about

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Speaker 3: him a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah he's still there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I get intrigued by the schools too. You know,

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Speaker 8: I like the other one, Savian Jones and I last

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Speaker 8: night as I was regrouping, and then I didn't realize

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Speaker 8: k C. But he would have been one of those

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Speaker 8: guys I figure right here as what we're coming up on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, is the Michigan kids still there now?

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Speaker 5: Okay, So the the Jaguar took Bishal touton to running

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Speaker 5: back from Virginia Tech, who is one of the more

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Speaker 5: fun studies of this running back class in my opinion,

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Speaker 5: just absolutely dynamic mover, great speed, you know, four to

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Speaker 5: You know, we talked about stacking the speedbacks in this class.

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Speaker 5: You know, Treyvon Henderson was certainly at the top of

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Speaker 5: took the top one, they took Henderson button. I'm sure

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Speaker 5: Teuton was probably on the board at this range for them.

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Speaker 7: A good question for you guys.

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Speaker 8: Just going through Elliot Wolf's press conference, he said there

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Speaker 8: ended up being Henderson. Were you know, speculating and they

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Speaker 8: they had some back and forth. I thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 8: We were kind of speculating who it might have been.

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Speaker 8: But now it seems like they're all you know, smooth operation.

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Speaker 8: They're all getting to know each other. But I thought

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Speaker 8: that was interesting that they were, you know, kind of

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Speaker 7: Rainbows and yeah, that's what we agree. You know, there

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Speaker 8: Be some you know, give and take. So I think

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Speaker 8: they're all getting to know each other. I mean, even

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Speaker 8: the how hard it is for that coaching staff to

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Speaker 8: you've got to get everybody up to speed. So I

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Speaker 8: think it's it's probably been a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: The other story, I'm sure we'll talk about probably after

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Speaker 4: the Patriots pick, because there's gonna be a big gap.

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Speaker 4: Is this shedor Sanders thing. I mean, he's still on

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Speaker 4: But you know, a lot of people are saying that

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Speaker 4: be able to absorb a guy like that until you

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Speaker 3: That's why I brought Pittsburgh up last night for that reason.

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Speaker 3: They do need a quarterback, and I feel Tomlin is

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Speaker 4: For Yeah, maybe he's done with all that I'm not

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Speaker 3: That could be. Maybe he's you know what Bill used

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Speaker 3: I want to cover I want to coach guys. I like,

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Speaker 3: you know, maybe he doesn't want to deal with those

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Speaker 3: any kind of legal trouble. He's not you know, he's

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Speaker 3: he's committed football player. Stataboo Giants and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: You know they're going to take a running back now, Patriots.

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Speaker 4: I don't care what he is. I want him on

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Speaker 3: Okay, no, I just I mean, I just thought it

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Speaker 3: to take in travy On Henderson. Well, you don't think

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Speaker 7: Scat special guy, special player.

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Speaker 3: Uh, he's breaking tackles in his.

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Speaker 4: I think the Giants just won the NFC.

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Speaker 3: I like I do. I so badly want to make

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Speaker 3: to be in the NFL playing. Watch some of these runs.

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Speaker 3: You won't see him like all of these highlights that

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Speaker 3: he's like one cut into space. Gone, Yeah, doesn't do that.

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Speaker 3: It's it's one cut.

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Speaker 4: Let me see if I could find another guy to hit,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, I like scataboo. I think he's

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Speaker 8: But you know, just real quick one back to Shu

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Speaker 3: I totally think that, like he didn't go in the

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Speaker 3: more than that. Like I'll listen to that, but don't

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Speaker 3: someone would have taken him. Well, there were three or

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Speaker 3: four teams that needed a quarterable, it would think. But

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Speaker 4: But there were enough ballnoers who said he was the

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Speaker 3: Like, but who were the ball knowers that were saying

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Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not talking about I'm talking about like.

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Speaker 3: Mel Kiper did. Yeah, yeah, he was out of his mind.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about the draft analysts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I think they were wrong.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but like how how are they so wrong?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Like Dame Brugal had him in the

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Speaker 3: second round, he wasn't wrong.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well he was so far.

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Speaker 3: But I again, he wasn't a first round talent.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The rest of this could be about you know, it's

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Speaker 10: No?

442
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Speaker 4: I know, yeah, but so do you think it was

443
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Speaker 4: just like the name Sanders actually helped him? You know,

444
00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,480
Speaker 4: like right now it's hurting him, we say, but could

445
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Speaker 4: it have also helped him to be he thought of

446
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Speaker 4: as a first round talent?

447
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,560
Speaker 3: That's the thing that I was joking about last night.

448
00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,480
Speaker 3: There is a lot of people passionately saying that no

449
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,280
Speaker 3: one would be talking about this drop if it wasn't

450
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,960
Speaker 3: for his last name, and a lot of people would

451
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Speaker 3: say he wouldn't have dropped like this if it wasn't

452
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:14,880
Speaker 3: for his last name.

453
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Speaker 11: Yeah.

454
00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,000
Speaker 3: I don't know who's right, but both of them are

455
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,960
Speaker 3: arguing strongly on both sides.

456
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,840
Speaker 8: A lot of relationships to be managed, a lot of

457
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,320
Speaker 8: relationships good way with crime as well.

458
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,320
Speaker 3: And I do feel like that's part of this. I

459
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,679
Speaker 3: think that people that are strongly in the He's getting

460
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 3: screwed camp or carrying favor with Dion.

461
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Speaker 4: So the Patriots pick is in, it is Yeah, yeah,

462
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,600
Speaker 4: it's it's I think it's a safe pick.

463
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, this is not a head scratch.

464
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Speaker 8: I'd say this is the first pick that I have

465
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,879
Speaker 8: been a little bit interesting, makes you think.

466
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,159
Speaker 4: A little bit sounds like yeah, this is uh so

467
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 4: the pick is in. It's Craig Woodson, safety from California.

468
00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so a true free safety. And I think

469
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 5: that that's something that we talked about that you know,

470
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,360
Speaker 5: is a potential need for this team somebody that can

471
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 5: play at the top of the defense in center field.

472
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Speaker 5: I think he's probably at his best playing in more

473
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 5: split safety coverage or rotating down in that robber role

474
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,439
Speaker 5: or into that you know, short zone distribution. But I

475
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 5: definitely think he can play up top and play the

476
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Speaker 5: deep role as well. And I'm sure they feel that

477
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 5: way too. You know, we've talked numerous times about them

478
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 5: needing like a Deron Harmon type of safety that you

479
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,680
Speaker 5: can let Kyle Dugger and Jabriel Peppers play closer to

480
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage, play in the box, especially on

481
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 5: third down and obvious passing situations. I feel pretty good

482
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Speaker 5: about Woodson potentially competing for that sort of third safety role.

483
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's going to be a starter

484
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 5: in the NFL, you know, long term, but as a

485
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 5: depth safety, somebody that can rotate in on third down

486
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 5: passing situations, play center field. I think that he can

487
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,199
Speaker 5: do those types of things. And they obviously felt like

488
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 5: this was a need. It seems like they felt like

489
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 5: safety was definitely on the radar for this draft.

490
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, Marcus EPs, you brought back Jalen Hawkins as well. Yeh,

491
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 8: I said earlier in the show. Do you still feel

492
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Speaker 8: like there are guys who compete for starting roles. I

493
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Speaker 8: don't know if I qualify this. I think have you

494
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 8: put it pretty well that he'll compete to be a

495
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 8: rotational piece. But I do think that the signals are

496
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 8: pointing towards we need another option. We don't want to

497
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Speaker 8: play Dugger and Pepper's together, you know. I think that's

498
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 8: what we all kind of acknowledge that those two guys

499
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 8: are going to be at their best when they're free

500
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 8: to move around make plays on the second level instead

501
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 8: of you know, like what darn Harmon did so well,

502
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 8: but that's a very specific kind of job. So maybe

503
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Speaker 8: if if he's able to do that and be that

504
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 8: third safety on you know, third downs end of games

505
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 8: when you're trying to play.

506
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 7: A lot of coverage on the back end, and it

507
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 7: could fills a need.

508
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, six foot around two hundred pounds ran a four

509
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 4: four five, so decent speed for safety.

510
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,239
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, I would also mention, you know that

511
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 5: there's there's maybe potentially a little bit of nickel corner

512
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 5: flex here. I think he could probably do that as

513
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 5: well and play over the slot if they wanted him to.

514
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 5: So there's some flexibility with him as a player I

515
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,959
Speaker 5: would say, just to full disclosure, I had him as

516
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 5: much further down, and so did the Beast, you know,

517
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 5: had a sixth round grade on him. Dame Breuler had

518
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 5: the same. So I'm a little surprised. It's a little

519
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 5: earlier than I expected him to go. But I think

520
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 5: we're at the point of the draft now where a

521
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 5: lot of it is just fit and scheme and culture

522
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 5: and character and all that kind of stuff. So where

523
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 5: you see guys on day three, maybe.

524
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 3: This is where you'll see that stuff that I was

525
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 3: talking about earlier about, you know, the the eye of

526
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 3: the beholder. Yeah, you know, there's going to be some

527
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: probably variations.

528
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 4: Any any col connections in our draft room, not that

529
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 4: I know of, No, No, all right, all right. Jack Kaiser,

530
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 4: linebacker from Notre Dame, went to the Jacksonville Jaguars. So

531
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Speaker 4: you know, barring a trade, we're we're not up until

532
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 4: the fifth round. But like Wolf said, they do have

533
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Speaker 4: now some amo to go back up into the fourth

534
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Speaker 4: if they see somebody.

535
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Speaker 7: Yeah, stay ready, stay.

536
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Speaker 3: Ready, keep an eye open. Yeah, it's we two picks

537
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Speaker 3: that are quick, right.

538
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, fourth, sixth and eighth pick in the fifth round.

539
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: But you got probably about thirty plus picks to get through.

540
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 7: I think there's thirty six picks.

541
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Speaker 8: I believe in this in this fourth round, maybe thirty

542
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 8: nine actually, So yeah, this is this is what.

543
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Speaker 7: Watching that ticker waiting for any to paba.

544
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 4: So we have a lot of emails coming in. And

545
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Speaker 4: by the way, last night again was huge numbers.

546
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Speaker 3: And for the show, the listeners really bringing it too,

547
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Speaker 3: like so a lot of good calls, a lot of

548
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Speaker 3: good emails, and.

549
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Speaker 4: We get criticized sometimes for the callers. Uh and you

550
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Speaker 4: know sometimes it's the same people and I get it,

551
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Speaker 4: but I think of them credit for I think there

552
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 4: was a lot of energy last night, a lot of takes,

553
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Speaker 4: not saying they were all good, but a lot of takes.

554
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Speaker 4: So keep it up. Let's go. Also, podcast at pages

555
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Speaker 4: dot com is the way to email the show. We

556
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Speaker 4: got a ton of emails coming in. Jared Wright said,

557
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Speaker 4: I absolutely love the Henderson pick. I can't help but

558
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 4: think back to James White McDaniel's offense, not saying Trey

559
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 4: will be James White, but can definitely see him being

560
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 4: used the same way. Yeah, we see him as a

561
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 4: you know, a third down back as well, passing back,

562
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Speaker 4: helping out in the passing game.

563
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Speaker 7: Yea.

564
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Speaker 8: Elliott said they kind of view all those guys as

565
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Speaker 8: three down backs, and I think we talked about it

566
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Speaker 8: last night when they made the selection that in recent

567
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Speaker 8: years they had gotten away from that. It hadn't been

568
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Speaker 8: the pure early down, third down kind of split between

569
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Speaker 8: the running backs. I think that's what they're trying to

570
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 8: stick with. I think they like all those guys to

571
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Speaker 8: be able to play on all three downs. And I'm

572
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Speaker 8: wondering if that's part of what Josh McDaniels and I

573
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Speaker 8: don't want to say it's him evolving, because for all

574
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Speaker 8: we know, it might have been how Bill wanted to

575
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Speaker 8: play things, you know, and he was here before. But

576
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 8: I do wonder a little bit if it's maybe Josh saying,

577
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 8: you know, we got to get away from so much

578
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 8: specialization in the backfield. We need guys that are threats

579
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 8: to catch the ball or run the ball and make

580
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 8: and make plays. I do like though, I think as

581
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 8: Evan said, you know, they do compliment each other pretty

582
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 8: well with ramondre his hard running style, but I just

583
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 8: the way ramondre plays it just doesn't serve to run

584
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 8: him into the ground. He's gonna get hit a lot.

585
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 8: He's gonna break tackles. So I just think Henderson's in

586
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Speaker 8: a nice would you say, thunder and lightning kind of

587
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 8: kind of.

588
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 12: Yeah.

589
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love James White. Everybody here loves James White.

590
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 5: I think Travon Henderson has got the potential to be

591
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 5: a much more well rounded player than James White was.

592
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 5: Like James White was a true third down running back,

593
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 5: you know, past catching back, receiving back, third down running back.

594
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 5: I think Travon Henderson's got a little bit more of

595
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 5: a complete skill set.

596
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 3: I would oh, poor, poor, poor biggie.

597
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 4: Oh Dante Thornton.

598
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: Dante Thornton just went to the big Shock the Raiders. Yeah,

599
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 3: but I would just say I agree with you one

600
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: thousand percent on James White, the New England Patriot. James

601
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 3: White coming out of Wisconsin was more than just a

602
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: third down pass catching back. So we'll see what Henderson

603
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: ends up being. Yeah, I think Henderson's probably resume at

604
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 3: Ohio State is more impressive than White's at Wisconsin. But

605
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: White was more than a third down back of Wisconsin.

606
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Speaker 3: And that's a team that you know, right, they kind

607
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 3: of played old time Big ten football, and he was

608
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 3: between the tackles option there as well.

609
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I think that, you know, James White,

610
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 5: just from what he was with the Patriots, was that

611
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Speaker 5: of a specialized player.

612
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 3: Definitely.

613
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Speaker 5: I think this guy Henderson has the ability to do

614
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 5: a lot more.

615
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 3: Me too. But if you would ask me, and I

616
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: do remember when when James White came out, I remember

617
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 3: doing his profile, I wouldn't have said that that's what

618
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 3: he'll he'll be strictly this third down matchup guy. I

619
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Speaker 3: wouldn't have thought that that's all he would be. I

620
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: thought he would be more of a change of pace

621
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Speaker 3: running back, yeah than he was.

622
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good way of putting it. That's how

623
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 5: I see Henderson as a true change of pace back. So,

624
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 5: you know, certain game plans, certain game situations, certain packages,

625
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 5: even you know, eleven personnel packages, spread the field type

626
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 5: of offense like that, they're gonna have him be the

627
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 5: feature guy. You know, he'll be the number one running

628
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,239
Speaker 5: back in that type of vein. So I see him

629
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 5: much more as like a one B to Remondre Stevenson

630
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 5: than just a third down running back.

631
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Speaker 3: Like, just as a point of comparison, James White his

632
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: last year at Wisconsin at two hundred and twenty one

633
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 3: carries for fourteen and forty four yards and thirteen touchdowns.

634
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 3: That like, so what he was as a Patriot wasn't

635
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,239
Speaker 3: what he was coming up. I mean he also at

636
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: thirty nine catches, so he obviously had that ability. But

637
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: James White was a big time player at Wisconsin.

638
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the pills have traded up into one oh nine,

639
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 4: So it's always interesting to see what our AFC East

640
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 4: rivals take.

641
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: Maybe they take Sudoy Sanders good. Uh no, I mean,

642
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: like Fred brought up, like the teams like those are

643
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Kansas City, Yeah, Pitch, those are the teams

644
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: that are strong enough that we can take him. He's

645
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 3: not gonna play No one's gonna say he needs to

646
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 3: play over Josh Allen. We can just be patient with him.

647
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not expecting that. I'm just saying those

648
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: are the kinds of teams that could take Shedoys Sanders.

649
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 4: But you know, listen, you guys say, well, he's not

650
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 4: going to play with Josh Allen, right, but you put

651
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 4: him in your system. He's a good citizen for a

652
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: year and now other teams warm up to him.

653
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: Maybe you can second.

654
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 4: Third round pick for him or second, you know, or first.

655
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 8: I just say on on Buffalo's draft looking through them

656
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 8: right now, I mean Walter Nolan, Will Johnson, and Jordan

657
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 8: Burch all defensive picks thus far for the Bills.

658
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: So there it made sense. Their defense has evan't put

659
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: it out Thursday night. Their defense has taken some steps back,

660
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: and it's.

661
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Speaker 4: Notable to know that they just over the Jets.

662
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Speaker 7: Some of the Bills.

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00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 5: No, that's their Arizona.

664
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Speaker 7: Oh shoot, sorry, I apologize.

665
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, well well Johnson, I know, went to Arizona.

666
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you're right. Sorry.

667
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Speaker 3: They took the Kentucky quarterback.

668
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Speaker 8: Kirston Sanders, Lana Jackson. Yeah, it's still the same point though,

669
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Speaker 8: all all it all defensive players Lana Jackson, big big dude,

670
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 8: like jumped out of the RCA dome.

671
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Speaker 4: There.

672
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Speaker 3: They are crazy Buffaloes. They are they are.

673
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Speaker 5: It is funny though, Another big, big defensive player, Dion Walker.

674
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Deon Walker is a weird player though, because

675
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 5: he's like three hundred and fifty three hundred and sixty pounds,

676
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 5: but he plays he plays end like he's.

677
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 3: That's a great clip right there. They just showed up.

678
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: He just likes it. Get out of my way.

679
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 5: He's just oh yeah, no, he's he's a man amongst

680
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 5: boys in that respect. But he plays better I would

681
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 5: say at defensive end. Then he does a nose tackle

682
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 5: because of his pad level, he gets really high up

683
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 5: and pops straight up out of his stands. So he's

684
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 5: not the best at leveraging box in the run game,

685
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 5: even at his size. So he's actually better, uh, you know,

686
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 5: rushing the passer and playing a little bit in space,

687
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 5: which is interesting.

688
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: That's interesting they took two defensive tackles that are very

689
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: very different. Yeah, because you said Sanders if all the

690
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: kind of athletic interior guy, and this guy is just

691
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: huge monster.

692
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dion Walker. I think a lot of coming into

693
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Speaker 5: this process. He's probably rated a lot higher on a

694
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 5: lot of people's boards, but he's really fallen down because

695
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 5: of you know, really digging into the tape and pad level,

696
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 5: leverage concerns, motor concerns at that size, like things like that.

697
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 4: What's interesting they hopped over the Jets, So I'm wondering

698
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: if the Jets were they got win that the Jets

699
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Speaker 4: might have been interested in this guy. Jets, Jets are

700
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Speaker 4: on the clock.

701
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Speaker 7: Yeah, certainly a traits kind of.

702
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Speaker 3: I am a little surprised that, I mean, not surprised

703
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: with all the defensive picks, but just that they hadn't

704
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: targeted at least one sort of weapon on offense, because

705
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: I do think they were kind of a weapon away

706
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: last year offense. Then they had a good offense, and

707
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: they don't get me wrong, I mean, but they just

708
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: relied so much on Allen.

709
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 4: Eight five five past five hundred is the hotline. Let's

710
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Speaker 4: go to Nate in Connecticut. What's up Nate?

711
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, can you guys hear me?

712
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 4: Yep?

713
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Speaker 13: I just had a couple of quick thoughts.

714
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Speaker 12: I remember I called it.

715
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Speaker 13: Probably about like a month or two ago, saying that

716
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 13: any of you were opposed to take a running back?

717
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 13: And I remember Fred said yeah later in the draft.

718
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 13: And I was watching the draft yesterday and I didn't

719
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 13: really expect to take them a running back in the

720
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Speaker 13: second round. But this dude seems like pretty legit. And

721
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Speaker 13: my question to you guys is do you think that

722
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Speaker 13: there's going to be a big competition between Stevenston and

723
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 13: Henderson or do you think the workload will be sort

724
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Speaker 13: of even fifty fifty?

725
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 12: Thank you guys.

726
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, so how are they going to use these guys.

727
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't of competitions necessarily the right word, because

728
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 5: I think they're so complimentary that they're each going to

729
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 5: have their roles and their situations that they're going to

730
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 5: be playing in game to game, So they're gonna just

731
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 5: kind of be a duo or tandem. You know, I

732
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 5: don't know if it's going to be necessarily you know,

733
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 5: deeper than that, right, like in terms of competition. So

734
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 5: you know, I've made the comparison to you know, you're

735
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 5: trying to it's obviously a ceiling of what it could

736
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 5: potentially be. But you know, David Montgomery and Jamier Gibbs

737
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 5: and Detroit like, those two guys both have roles, they

738
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 5: both have, you know, what they do best, and they

739
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 5: use them in that spot. You know. The Jets kind

740
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 5: of have like a watered down version of it with

741
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 5: bres Hall and Braylen Allen like that. That sort of thing.

742
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: Absolutely, just real quick on the previous pick that the

743
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: Patriots made Craig Woodson, I just saw raw buddy Bryan

744
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: Hines put a tweet out with a quote from Daniel

745
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: Jeremiah who talked about I guess he was on move

746
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 3: the sticks. Somewhere in the pre draft process, he says

747
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 3: this of Craig woods and he's one of those guys

748
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: where I don't kind of know what I'm missing, Like

749
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: he's got enough size, he takes the ball away. He

750
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: ran in the mid four fours. I talked to the

751
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: guys at CAL, like he's a super smart, great leader.

752
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: Cal's been a sneaky good secondary factory over the years.

753
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: He's one I think to me, I haven't liked the

754
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: early third early mid third round. And maybe he goes

755
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: in like the fifth round, but when all was said

756
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 3: and done, I think you'll look up and he'll be

757
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: starting next year. So like that, Daniel Jeremiah is pretty

758
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 3: high on Craig Woodson. He goes in the fourth round,

759
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: and you know he liked him. Maybe in the middle

760
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: of the third he thought that maybe he projected to

761
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: the fifth maybe a little bit later, but he thought

762
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Speaker 3: he was one of the better late round players on

763
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Speaker 3: his board. I mean maybe, and Daniel Jeremiah is pretty good.

764
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Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe this will end up being kind of a

765
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 8: barometer pick because the previous four picks, I think we

766
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 8: all kind of felt like this is best player available.

767
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Speaker 7: This makes sense.

768
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 8: You know, maybe this is the player that we're going

769
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 8: to look back and said, wow, they kind of found

770
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 8: a gem that was off the beaten path a little bit.

771
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Speaker 7: It not too much.

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Speaker 8: I mean we all acknowledged the need for a free

773
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 8: safety type, but still I think that's where you give

774
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 8: guys more credit, players like this who aren't. I mean,

775
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 8: everybody you know knows exactly what the players.

776
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 3: Thanks for Buddy Bryan Hines for yeah, putting that out

777
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Speaker 3: on Twitter.

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Speaker 5: You do. Also you wonder what it means for both

779
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 5: Kyle Dugger and Jabriel Peppers, and they've been really big

780
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 5: on competition in all areas of the roster, and Dugger's

781
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 5: coming off a really down year, coming off an injury.

782
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 5: I didn't get what you were expecting out of him.

783
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 5: And then obviously with Peppers, with what went on off

784
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 5: the field, I don't think that those two guys are

785
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 5: as certain as maybe we thought they were this time

786
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 5: last year. So yeah, if you're surprised that they added

787
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 5: a safety, I think that it comes down to that.

788
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 5: You know, they didn't get the production out of those

789
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 5: two players that they were expecting, so you have to

790
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 5: add competition. I think it's similar as running back where

791
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 5: ramondro Stevenson did not have the year that they were

792
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 5: expecting him to have last year, so they drafted running

793
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 5: back high and in some competition.

794
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 4: Mike's in Puerto Rico. Hey, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike's not there.

795
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 4: Let's go to Boston Cream. Hey, Boston Cream.

796
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 14: Hey guys, great stop show. I'm kind of catching up

797
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 14: on the podcast. But quick question, I don't know if

798
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 14: it's been brought up, but do we know that this

799
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 14: is the last player drafted from Washington State since Drew.

800
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 4: Bled stuff for the Patriots and Cowboy.

801
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't don't know off the top of my head,

802
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: but we will never know.

803
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 5: He's asking or he's telling.

804
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 4: Molloy was Washington, right, Yeah, I don't.

805
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 14: Sorry, I'm telling I'm just not sure if it's been

806
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 14: brought up. So I'm wondering if Paul has a special

807
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 14: connection to this player.

808
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 4: Now No, probably, yeah I do.

809
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 14: And also, is the last safety pick a little we

810
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 14: are considering Billy Bowman was on the board.

811
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that those were the it's a fair question.

812
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 5: I've gravitated a little bit more towards Billy Bowman and

813
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 5: Malachi Moore in the similar role that they drafted Woodson

814
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 5: to play. So I would be interested to know what

815
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 5: they saw in Woodson that they didn't see in those

816
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 5: two guys. My guests, just total guests. He has a

817
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 5: little bit more size than those two players. Those two

818
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 5: guys are a little bit undersized for the position, So

819
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 5: maybe that's what they're thinking. But I had more on

820
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 5: my big board. I was a big fan of Billy

821
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 5: Bowman's as well. Similar type of players, similar type of roles,

822
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 5: and I would have personally drafted one of those guys

823
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 5: over Woodson. But they obviously liked Woodson.

824
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: So here we are Boston Cream is correct Drew Bledsoe

825
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety three. No Patriot chosen out of Washington State.

826
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: Since okay, it's a draft history.

827
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 4: Did you like Arian Smith wide receiver because he went

828
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: to the Jets?

829
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 5: That's funny why I thought Arion Smith can be like

830
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 5: a seventh round pick. Oh yeah, So so you know,

831
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 5: we're getting into the range of the draft now where

832
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 5: I feel like we're kind of a little bit all

833
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 5: over the place with where people's boards are, like Deon Walker,

834
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 5: Ty Robinson to Philly, Like those picks make sense in

835
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 5: this range to me. Arian Smith. That does not That

836
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 5: does not make much sense to me.

837
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: Okay, and I don't know which one this is. George's

838
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: receiver struggled this year. I saw a number of Georgia

839
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: games where they just could not hold on to the football.

840
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, catching the balls challenging.

841
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's one of them.

842
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 5: He is. Yeah, he's got a lot of athleticism, a

843
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 5: lot of you know, traits that you like in terms

844
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 5: of separation, but he had trouble catching them.

845
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: Reading his analysis on ESPN, Smith is a lean receiver

846
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: who was plagued by ugly drops. In twenty twenty four,

847
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: he averaged seventeen yards per catch outstanding combine workout explodes

848
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: out the line that maybe maybe he's one of those

849
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 3: guys that focus drops as they like to say, yes

850
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: and if he can fix that. But I watched Georgia

851
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: quite a few times this year, and I don't love

852
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: their quarterback play. I didn't love Carson Beck, but they

853
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 3: did not get a lot of help from their receivers.

854
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 4: John Wrights instance, I know Paul likes games. This game.

855
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 4: You choose which one of these seemed more ridiculous coming

856
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 4: into the draft. T Mac falling out of the top ten,

857
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 4: or Matthew Golden being the first receiver taken. What was

858
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 4: what would be more ridiculous. I don't think either one

859
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 4: of them are really ridiculous.

860
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: No, I think I think that both of those guys

861
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 3: got taken around where people thought they would get taken.

862
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the top three tackles fall.

863
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: I mean, didn't t Mac go eight?

864
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so something like that.

865
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Speaker 3: He went to the Panthers at eight. Right, that's somehow

866
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 3: like where everybody thought he was going to.

867
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Speaker 4: Go one of the top three tackles falling to the

868
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Speaker 4: late twenties, or New England trading out of the pick.

869
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 3: One of the three tackles falling to the late twenties.

870
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Speaker 12: I don't know.

871
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 4: But who do you consider the top three? I don't know.

872
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 3: Assume he's talking Campbell, Banks and Membo. Membo.

873
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 4: Those are the three times one of the top one of.

874
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: Those top three falling into the twenties would have been

875
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: I think probably pretty unrealistic.

876
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 4: Evan wearing a suit to a blue collar draft or

877
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 4: Duce getting upset that his defense didn't get any help

878
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 4: to in the first two days.

879
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 3: He got over it. He did a good job of

880
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: getting over.

881
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 4: It and ps, I'm low key starting to hate Christian

882
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 4: in LA but I still have a lot of hate

883
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 4: for Patty taking ten minutes to ask his questions.

884
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, it's good sell caller on color Crime. I'm

885
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: here for it. Sure always.

886
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 4: Let's see. I know Evan, this is Michael. I know

887
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 4: Evan wants the edge, but Farmer might be a good

888
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 4: value here with his Barmore comp Joshua Farmer.

889
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 5: Josh Yeah, I don't see Barmore when I watched Joshua Farmer.

890
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 5: But I've heard that comp. And I'm like coming at

891
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 5: the emailer for making the comp. I don't see that

892
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 5: kind of player.

893
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: And I mean value wise, I mean he's up on

894
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: a lot of these lists as one of the guys.

895
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:07,959
Speaker 5: Yeah.

896
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: No, I thought that he was among the best available

897
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: talent under I.

898
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 5: Thought that he was maybe in play there at one

899
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 5: O six.

900
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 3: And yeah, and in fairness, I'm sure that email came

901
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: in before they actually made the pick at one O six.

902
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 4: Most storing interesting Patriots fan in the world, James Pettigrew says,

903
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 4: dare I say it are the days of being scared

904
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 4: of the draft over? I remember being in studio for

905
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 4: the Razi Dowling pick and I was forever scarred.

906
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is uh, this is as good as I

907
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 3: think we've collectively felt about a draft.

908
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 4: Sean and Vancouver Mike Jack Sawyer is still there LFG.

909
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd be I'd be yeah, I'd be happy with that.

910
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: I don't think that's Mike's favorite option. Well, he wants

911
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 3: an edge, but I mean.

912
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 8: Look, I got to be consistent with what I said,

913
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 8: and I think the issue that I just am concerned

914
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 8: with his past rush death and I banged that drum

915
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 8: last year and what happened Matthew Judong got traded and

916
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 8: all of a sudden, I mean they had no I

917
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 8: mean thirtieth and pressure rates, so you know, with a

918
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 8: hugely important part of the defense.

919
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: And you know, I think their defense is just as

920
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: bad as.

921
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 8: That as the great ben Volan pooned out. I mean

922
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 8: they've picked what thirteen picks, and the fourteen last picks,

923
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 8: one of them has been on the defensive side of

924
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 8: the ball, you know, I know, Well that's you know indeed,

925
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 8: but it's it's it's Look, there's been plenty of attention

926
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 8: on the defense and free agency, but going back to

927
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 8: last year too, you know, just.

928
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 4: Want I hear.

929
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 7: Day three flags of this defense.

930
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 8: I think everybody acknowledges though at a certain point this

931
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 8: will catch up. You need to continue to stock some

932
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 8: young talent and hopefully they draft some guys here over

933
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 8: these last few rounds that do.

934
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 7: Develop into something. But as as.

935
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 8: I've learned working with Paul and then this is you know,

936
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 8: it's hard to expect anything out of anybody drafted from

937
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 8: this point on.

938
00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 7: It's great machine.

939
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 3: You get any greats. Don't confuse, not expect, but.

940
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 7: Just don't pencil this guy in as as.

941
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: I think a lot of times fans look at the

942
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: position that they took and they drafted him, so that

943
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: means you addressed it. Whereas the vast majority of the

944
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 3: guys that you take in those with those picks will

945
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: not address the need. But that doesn't mean that they

946
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 3: never will. You know, Michael Wenu was a Day three

947
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 3: guy he addressed indeed like it happened, But.

948
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 8: It's more like you know, like you said, like you're

949
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 8: present pleasantly surprised instead of sure, okay, Michael, And when

950
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 8: you asked six round pick, he'll be He'll be.

951
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 3: Starting to writeuard how many how many wide receivers have

952
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: they taken in the sixth and seventh round that have

953
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: been considered.

954
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 8: To be at many so many to go down the list, well,

955
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 8: I mean just recently had the I mean Ermi Gallan Nixon, but.

956
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 7: Even yeah Tree Nixon was the one I was I

957
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 7: was talking about.

958
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: No, Devin Lucien.

959
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 5: I would just I just I like some of the

960
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 5: talents still on the on the board here at edge,

961
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 5: and I think some of these guys can really play.

962
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 5: And this class is just unique in that respect that

963
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 5: it has, you know, a loaded group at that position.

964
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 3: So you might have been very high on the edges. Yeah,

965
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 3: for a long time.

966
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 5: You know if you look at you know, Jack Sawyer

967
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 5: still there, as we've been saying, Brandy and Swinston still

968
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 5: there from Lsu, Baron Sorel from Texas, Kyle Canard from

969
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 5: South Carolina, like if Deuce wants like just a pure

970
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 5: pass rusher, like you're saying, Kway Robinson from Alabama has

971
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 5: some of the most fun pass rush tape out of

972
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,959
Speaker 5: any of these guys that are still available. Antoine Powell

973
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 5: Ryland from Virginia Tech's another guy that can really rush

974
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 5: the passer. So I still think that there's like four

975
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 5: or five guys that are true edge rushers that can

976
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 5: rush the passer and rush the quarterback and have a

977
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 5: third down roll. David Walker from Central Arkansas is another one,

978
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 5: small school guy that's still out and available. So I

979
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 5: would like to see them grab one of those guys.

980
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 5: I think that this their rookie class looks great. Their

981
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 5: draft picks look great so far, but it's it's missing

982
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 5: that it's missing that that player on the edge, and

983
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 5: hopefully they get it. CJ. West really good pick by

984
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 5: the Niners.

985
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: You know what I did, I would tell you my

986
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 3: my big, big guy with the small number theory.

987
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 7: I love those.

988
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 3: Guys, big guys, small numbers. You know what it means

989
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: to me, Mike, is it means that that guy is

990
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 3: a really good athlete. I'm that serious.

991
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 13: I'm not.

992
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 7: This is not it's not just the visual thing.

993
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: It's not.

994
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 7: It's the contrary.

995
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 3: There's the reason that he had that number because but

996
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: he had the number when he was smaller and more

997
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 3: something something. It's not typical that like these three hundred

998
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: pound guys or you know, we're number eight. You know,

999
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: there had to be some reason.

1000
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 4: I think, like Brian Morey was seven at BU.

1001
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: Almost almost almost universally, those guys are more athletic than

1002
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: their position. And that guy, the Indiana guy, CJ.

1003
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 5: West, he's a game pretty good player. Yeah, he's a

1004
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 5: really good player and penetrating nose tackle. You don't see

1005
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 5: a ton of those like this. Is not a space eater,

1006
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 5: he's an up the field nose tackle, really good online games,

1007
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 5: really good at penetrating the line of scrimmage. He was

1008
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 5: one of my favorite guys in this draft.

1009
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: So, Mike your your defense thing, you know, And I

1010
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: again I totally agree with you and Evan when you

1011
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: talk about the need to continue to address I just

1012
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 3: feel like they had no options in some of these

1013
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 3: spots on offense. What they've done on defense is they've

1014
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: put stop gaps in. So I think that you're serviceable

1015
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: in need of more. On offense, you didn't have a

1016
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: left tackle, you might not have a guard, you know,

1017
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 3: you did not have a playmaking wide receiver. Really, you

1018
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 3: have a stopgap in digs and that's about it. So

1019
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: you have to hope to your point, they had they

1020
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 3: let go of Matthew Judon, Harold l Andry's got to give

1021
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: him some something, you know, in the pass rush, and

1022
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: then you have to look ahead and say, Okay, that's

1023
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 3: going to be on a small list of things when

1024
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: we're talking next November, December, January, hopefully not till January

1025
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 3: when we start talking about the draft next time that

1026
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: you know it's going to be an edge guy. Yeah,

1027
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: it's going to be a top flight weapon wide receiver.

1028
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: You know those are you know, hopefully you can pigeonhole

1029
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: it and find some dynamic play players at those positions.

1030
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't necessarily be in despair, like where's the

1031
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: pass rusher? You know? Like, and I do think they

1032
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: have some stop depth. Robert Splain will probably give them

1033
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: a little bit of a.

1034
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 7: You you laid it out. Yeah, you laid it out wonderfully, Paul.

1035
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 8: And I even add another to that, it's like, oh,

1036
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 8: by the way, Douce, they signed Milk Williams, who was

1037
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 8: the best pass rusher available in this free agency class

1038
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 8: and is you know, an absolute terror. And they also

1039
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 8: might be getting that Christian Barmore. So you know, it's

1040
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 8: you're always chasing. You're never gonna have everything right.

1041
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 7: There's always going to be you.

1042
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 8: But what you just said, Paul about next year we're

1043
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 8: probably talking about now it's time to find that number

1044
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 8: one receiver and the edge like and.

1045
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 3: Again that doesn't mean that I don't want to do

1046
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: the Evan Mike thing and and get one of these

1047
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 3: guys on my l s U guy or Jack Sawyer.

1048
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, somebody just if it's that, if

1049
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 3: you guys are writing there is that much depth at

1050
00:46:58,960 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: the edge.

1051
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 8: I mean not to oversimplify it, but you know, I

1052
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 8: always talk about the big five positions, and right now

1053
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 8: you feel like a quarterback. They got Drake May at cornerback.

1054
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 8: They have Christian Zalaz at left tackle. Now they have

1055
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 8: Will Campbell, and you know what's left is really we

1056
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 8: could talk ourselves into Diggs. Maybe maybe he still has

1057
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 8: some of that juice of being that guy, but is

1058
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 8: there a long term elite edge presence. I think those

1059
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 8: are the five positions, So those last two are you know,

1060
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 8: and I think they've done a lot of wide receiver.

1061
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 8: They've done enough to make me feel like they have

1062
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 8: some players that are going to be able to change

1063
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 8: this offense to make it more explosive. And that's the

1064
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 8: exciting fact. We've talked all the last two days about it.

1065
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 7: This is an offense league. This is about scoring.

1066
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 8: This is about the passing game, and ultimately that's where

1067
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 8: you're going to live and die. I don't need to

1068
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 8: stock up on defense and make that the focus. This

1069
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 8: offense needs to catch up to the rest of the NFL.

1070
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 8: We've been saying it too long, So in that regard,

1071
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 8: totally get it. It's just I'm always going to be looking at, well,

1072
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 8: where's the need, where's the potential flaw? Where are we

1073
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 8: one injury away from oboy Because I mean, honestly would

1074
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 8: say if Harold Landry got hurt, oh yeah, that's a

1075
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 8: big that's a big deal, right, and they get hurt,

1076
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 8: they've addressed a lot of vacant needs, which doesn't necessarily

1077
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 8: give you any depth.

1078
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: It just gives you some players that are plugged in.

1079
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: You're right, if they were to lose, you know, some

1080
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 3: of those guys that they brought in as free agents,

1081
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: if they if one or two of those guys get hurt,

1082
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 3: I think they're really relying on those guysat up a

1083
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: lot of snaps.

1084
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 5: Well, you know, when you talk about depth out, that

1085
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 5: was basically what Elliott Wolf said last night about today,

1086
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 5: and that was we still feel like we have some

1087
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 5: holes on the depth chart. Uh, you know, in terms

1088
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 5: of depth on defense, not necessarily our frontline starters, but

1089
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 5: you know, developmental free safety, right you know, backup safety. Uh,

1090
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 5: maybe a rotational edge rusher or a backup edge rusher

1091
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 5: rep there. You know that that type of stuff is

1092
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 5: I think where they're trying to go today. And they're

1093
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 5: not gonna be stars, maybe none of them will be stars,

1094
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 5: but can they be your third safety? Can they be

1095
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 5: a rotational pass rusher on third down off the edge?

1096
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 5: You know that that's what they're kind of looking for

1097
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 5: right now today. And I just listening to Deuce talk about

1098
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 5: his concerns about the depth there in the pass rush.

1099
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 5: It really brings back, brings me back to Keon White.

1100
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 5: Like Keon White, I feel like needs to be uh,

1101
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 5: he needs to take a next step as an outside rusher.

1102
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 4: I don't think it's fair to to put it on

1103
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 4: him to like be a pass rusher. He wasn't in college.

1104
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 5: Well, he's an interior. It's an he's an interior pass rusher.

1105
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 4: He's a he's a pocket pusher. He can be a

1106
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 4: disruptor for sure, but he's not a sack guy.

1107
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 5: I don't need him to be a sack guy. I

1108
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 5: need to I want him to pressure the quarterback like

1109
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 5: I think Carold Landry's here to to sack people. I

1110
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 5: mean that that's a guy that can get up to

1111
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 5: double digit sacks. But you want, you know, Milton Williams,

1112
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 5: Christian Barmore, Keon White, you want those guys being the

1113
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 5: one that are pushing the quarterback towards Harold Landry so

1114
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 5: that he can go ahead and clean it up. And

1115
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 5: I look at Keon White as a player that right

1116
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 5: now probably has the highest upside to be what Deuce

1117
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 5: is looking for on the current roster. Him and I

1118
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 5: have been kind of lockstep on it, thinking that he's

1119
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 5: not really that kind of guide like your point, Fred,

1120
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 5: you know, especially coming off the edge, like it's just

1121
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 5: not really been his strong suit since he's been here

1122
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 5: or even in college. But you know, maybe with Terrell

1123
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 5: Williams and Mike Rabel, they're able to school him up

1124
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,959
Speaker 5: and they're improve Yeah.

1125
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think at this point you're probably

1126
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 8: looking more at key On White as your right defensive

1127
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 8: end on early downs and you, as Paul said, rotate

1128
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 8: in chase on on passing downs and you know, I

1129
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 8: don't have anything against ke On White. I think he's

1130
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 8: really good inside. But they have Mount Williams, they have

1131
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 8: Christian Barmore. There's only so many gaps on the inside

1132
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 8: of the offensive line that you can, you know, put

1133
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 8: rushers over. So I hope they find a way to

1134
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 8: use him. I hope that they're able to unlock him

1135
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 8: a little bit. I know he's a unique player played

1136
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 8: on the offensive side of the ball. So there's a

1137
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 8: lot of intrigue there, no question about it. But it's

1138
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 8: up to Terrell Williams to find what I just like.

1139
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 4: Like they're building a roster on defense that looks like

1140
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 4: they're going to be able to take advantage of some mismatch,

1141
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 4: you know, and create some mismatches and really, you know,

1142
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 4: be a defensive team where, you know, certain games, depending

1143
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 4: on what the offense is, we're gonna be able to

1144
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 4: use key On White a certain way. In this game,

1145
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 4: Milton Williams is gonna eat because there's something going on

1146
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 4: in the middle there that he's going to be taking advance.

1147
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 4: And we've got enough complimentary players we're building that toward

1148
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 4: being able to take advantage of situations.

1149
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd like to.

1150
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 8: I mean, you'd like to spread the offense out, and

1151
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 8: it feels like right now the offensive line can focus

1152
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 8: on the middle and focus on giving help to protect

1153
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 8: against what Milton Williams and Christian Barmore are so good at,

1154
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 8: which is getting upfield being disruptive. So in my mind,

1155
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 8: it's just if you have that speed guy on the outside,

1156
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 8: now it's like it's hard to give help to the

1157
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 8: tackle and the guard, and you know, you start to

1158
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 8: spread it.

1159
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 4: Out even more. So it's all it's about matchups.

1160
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of riding on Harold Landry, you know,

1161
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 5: to go back to the rusher he was two years

1162
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 5: ago and Rabeles last year in Tennessee last year. There's

1163
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 5: two ways looking at it. You can either say that

1164
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 5: you know, he's starting to hit the wall a little

1165
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 5: bit older in his career, you know, later on in

1166
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 5: his career, or you could say he changed systems. It

1167
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 5: wasn't a fit for him what they were doing last

1168
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 5: year in Tennessee. And now he's going to go back

1169
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 5: to playing in the Mike rabel defense that he thrived

1170
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 5: in as a Titan, and he'll be the player he

1171
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 5: was in twenty twenty three instead of the player he

1172
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 5: was in twenty twenty four. And if they get that

1173
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 5: Harold Landry, then at least for next year. It's kind

1174
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 5: of like with Stefan Diggs, like you feel a little

1175
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 5: bit better about the outlook of the whole thing.

1176
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 4: Matt writes, saying, I'm not sure what our obsession is

1177
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 4: with smaller wide receivers that are quick. I wanted a

1178
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 4: Horton type wide receiver who was still available when we

1179
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 4: drafted Kyle Williams. Do you think Horton has a better

1180
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 4: chance of being an actual starter versus Kyle Williams.

1181
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 3: I think Kyle Williams is fast. I don't think he's

1182
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 3: just quick.

1183
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 5: Yeah. I had a tough time with Tory Horton because

1184
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 5: he had a big twenty twenty three and then he

1185
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 5: got hurt last year and missed most of the season

1186
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 5: last year, and everybody kept on telling me go back

1187
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 5: to twenty twenty three and watch him then and all that.

1188
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 5: And I thought that he had some flashes, but I didn't.

1189
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 5: I didn't swoon over Tory Horton. I wasn't crazy about

1190
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 5: him as a player. I thought he was pretty raw

1191
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 5: as a route runner. You know it doesn't really do

1192
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 5: it for me. If you're just running crossing routes, you know,

1193
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 5: away from defenders and catching balls and tons of space

1194
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 5: like that, I want to see some technical savvy, some

1195
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 5: route running ability, you know, that sort of thing. I

1196
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 5: think Kyle Williams is a better route runner than Tory Horton,

1197
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 5: and in.

1198
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 3: General I liked the email because I kind of feel

1199
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 3: like that I want faster guys with some size over

1200
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 3: the smaller, quick guys. But I think that Kyle Williams

1201
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 3: is getting sold short in that description.

1202
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 8: You know what impress me watching a little Kyle Williams

1203
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 8: last night was the contested catchability. That was something that

1204
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 8: didn't really stick out to me initially, but number of

1205
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 8: downfield catches where he's got some guys on him, and

1206
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 8: for not being the biggest player, seems to have a

1207
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 8: pretty good knack for high pointing the ball using his

1208
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 8: I mean, the separation is apparent.

1209
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 7: I've and look at the Travis Hunter clip. We put

1210
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 7: that on loop.

1211
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 8: But the second you take a wrong step on Kyle Williams,

1212
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 8: he's going the other bit.

1213
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 4: A while since, we've had a guy who when he

1214
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 4: comes to says, this is a guy who can get open.

1215
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 8: And that's what I'm so that's what I'm interested to

1216
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 8: see in camp, you know, because I talk all the

1217
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 8: time about when we went to the Raiders joint practice

1218
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 8: and I'm watching DeVante Adams.

1219
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 7: Like, so, this is what it looks like when you

1220
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 7: got a dude.

1221
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 8: Not that I'm expecting Kyle Williams to be that player,

1222
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 8: but just to see what that speed looks like. We

1223
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 8: drafted Taekwon Thornton in four to three, what's.

1224
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 7: This look like?

1225
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 8: Didn't ever really look I mean, other than warm ups

1226
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 8: maybe when he was running over those cones, they were like, oh,

1227
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 8: Taekwon's opening it up, but you never saw it really translate.

1228
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 8: And this is something that I'm sure you guys watch

1229
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 8: plenty with guys like Edelman and Welker, just guys who

1230
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 8: they're going the other way, and it's all of a sudden, there's,

1231
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 8: you know, couple feet of separation.

1232
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 4: Nick and the Poconot's rites in great show last night,

1233
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 4: especially enjoyed the after show. I was enjoying the late

1234
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 4: quiet of the night when everyone is asleep and no

1235
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 4: one needs anything from me, and suddenly I heard Evan's

1236
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 4: voice on a hot mic between Deuce dropping f bombs

1237
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 4: and Evan complaining about the heat and his lack of

1238
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 4: remaining players on the big board. It was an entertaining listen.

1239
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 4: I was impressed on how quickly they transitioned to the

1240
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,479
Speaker 4: professional recap when the camera started rolling, and chuckled at Evan,

1241
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 4: marveling that it didn't go off the rails at the end.

1242
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 4: It was great insight into your process. Thank you for

1243
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 4: all you do. Fred turned down the thermostat was that

1244
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 4: your wrap up shot?

1245
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 7: That was a wrap up show that we shot, which

1246
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 7: is which goes by?

1247
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 3: I didn't get.

1248
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 4: What are you doing, Matt. You're getting these guys.

1249
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 5: On the streams.

1250
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 7: The streams are on, the streams are open.

1251
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 5: That's okay. We were just talking ball so nothing.

1252
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 7: So if you're ever listening to any of the shows,

1253
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 7: just let it go for a little while. You never

1254
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 7: know what you might get.

1255
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,479
Speaker 3: But that was the real friends someday who knows.

1256
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 4: I don't think I've never done anybody go recently that

1257
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 4: of note. Trevor Ettn went to Georgia back, went to

1258
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 4: the Panthers.

1259
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, Woody Marx went to the Texans, who I really

1260
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 5: like what he marks a lot. He reminds me probably

1261
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 5: the most out of anybody in this class of James

1262
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 5: White like that that type of player, really good change direction.

1263
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 3: Nick cRIO really liked him because he moved up.

1264
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,959
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, run run on running backs if you will

1265
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 5: now come in. So you had Skataboo at the top

1266
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 5: of the round, uh, Trevor Etn, Woody Marks, and now

1267
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 5: Jarquez Hunter from Auburn just went to the Rams. So

1268
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 5: a good fit for the Rams, you know, outside zone back,

1269
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 5: duo back, good downhill runner, one cut ability. I like

1270
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 5: to fit for them as well. But Houston's drafted a

1271
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 5: couple of guys, as they tend to do, that could

1272
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 5: have been Patriots in an alternate universe. They drafted both

1273
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 5: Iowa state wide receivers, they drafted Arianti ursery tackle, and

1274
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 5: now they drafted Woody Mark. So four guys that I

1275
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 5: easily could have seen being Patriots by the end of

1276
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 5: this drafter are Texans. So you can tell that there's

1277
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 5: still They're still kind of great and on a similar

1278
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 5: scale those two teams, it feels.

1279
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 4: Like Mitch and Albany. Do you guys also hate all

1280
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 4: the special announcers for just about every pick. I understand

1281
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 4: why they do it, but it really drags on and

1282
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 4: slows everything down. Also, would be completely unprecedented for Shador

1283
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 4: to go totally undrafted.

1284
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 3: I think we're kind of in unprecedented territory now for

1285
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 3: a guy that was so universally considered a first round

1286
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 3: pick to have not been taken at all for no

1287
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 3: like arrest. You know, we're not talking about legal issues

1288
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 3: off field. I don't know if can you think of

1289
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 3: anybody that was this universally considered to be first second

1290
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 3: round at worst.

1291
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 4: To go solo to go not well. I mean there's

1292
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 4: been guys like Aaron Rodgers. You could consider he's slided,

1293
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 4: but he was still in the first round.

1294
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 3: He slide it.

1295
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 7: Do you think this is having a snowball effect though?

1296
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 8: Where the longer it goes, the harder it is for

1297
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 8: a team to draft him, because now you're not only

1298
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 8: getting that circus, you're getting the circus.

1299
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 7: Of why did you?

1300
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 4: Why?

1301
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 7: What made you tra? You know, it just gets harder

1302
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 7: to explain, you know.

1303
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 3: Albert Breer actually tweeted a little while ago what we've

1304
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 3: been talking about. He said, there's two realities that could

1305
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 3: be at play. One is Sanders fill out of the

1306
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: first round because of talent and performance. Two he's still

1307
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 3: available now because of everything else. It's kind of what

1308
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 3: we've been touching on here. Uh, you know, is at

1309
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: this point of the draft, teams are looking for depth

1310
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 3: and developmental players. If you're taking in the third round,

1311
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 3: of the fourth round and the fifth round, you're going

1312
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 3: to be working in the background. That would make Sanders

1313
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 3: a backup. Backup quarterbacks need to blend in with the furniture,

1314
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 3: you know. It's It's kind of why Tim Tebow and

1315
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 3: Colin Kaepernick and even guys like Jay Cutler and Cam

1316
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 3: Newton had trouble extending their careers. I wonder if you

1317
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 3: know that's part of the fear, now what you just said, Mike, Yeah,

1318
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 3: you know, so, I think Albert might be honest.

1319
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 8: The other the other funny part of this whole thing, though,

1320
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 8: is that, of course, like Paul, you and I, we

1321
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 8: don't really often have bets, and yet somehow I bet that.

1322
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 7: Ship Nord Sanders was going to go in the top fifteen,

1323
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 7: and I owe you a sandwich.

1324
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you might know him three at this point.

1325
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 5: I so Billy Bowman just went to the Falcons, which

1326
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 5: is one of those safeties that I was talking about earlier.

1327
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 5: It'd be interesting to see, but they put it up

1328
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 5: there on the screen. You know, he's five nine one ninety.

1329
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 5: The Patriots guy Woodson that the Patriots drafted is a

1330
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 5: six feet two hundred pounds, So I think that's probably

1331
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 5: where where their mind was at with liking Woodson over

1332
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 5: some of those other guys. But I really liked Billy

1333
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 5: Bowman on tape. I think he's going to be a

1334
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 5: good player. But they I think they liked the size

1335
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 5: and the speed a little bit better with what you.

1336
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 4: Know, some of the things with the guy that we took.

1337
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 4: You know, people say he does need to get a

1338
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 4: little bit more physical. He has trouble tackling at times,

1339
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 4: although he had seventy tackles last year, so yeah, it

1340
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 4: seems like a physical guy too.

1341
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 5: But yeah, I think the only concern that I had

1342
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 5: it with him was, you know, true range over the

1343
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 5: top to play center field, Like does he He tested well,

1344
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 5: he ran a four four five, so it looks like

1345
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 5: he has that kind of speed, But will he that

1346
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 5: that speed translate? You know, he played in the system

1347
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 5: that wasn't quite a post safety system. He played much

1348
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 5: more split safety there at cal So, you know, is

1349
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 5: he going to have that ability to play a true

1350
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 5: center field post safety role. We'll see.

1351
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 4: We'll see the hotline eight five to five pats, five

1352
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 4: hundred Robbies in California. What's up, Robbie?

1353
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 15: Hey, guys, really enjoying this show.

1354
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 14: A couple of comments and a few questions for you guys.

1355
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 15: I really enjoyed.

1356
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 10: I really liked the draft so far. The first couple

1357
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 10: of days really good. The I'm comment about the Trador

1358
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 10: standards if I was kind of enjoying him not getting

1359
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 10: drafted because I don't like Deon Sanders and all the

1360
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,959
Speaker 10: theater that follows him, but now I'm starting to feel

1361
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 10: bad about the poor guy. The I will be disappointed

1362
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 10: if they don't come out with this draft with a

1363
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 10: couple of edge rushers.

1364
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: And I see that.

1365
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 16: In the fifth round they have a couple of graph

1366
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,919
Speaker 16: picks in the fifth In late in the fifth round,

1367
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 16: I wonder if they're going to package at least one

1368
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 16: of those up to move.

1369
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 12: Up for someone.

1370
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 14: I wonder who would they move up for?

1371
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 12: Would it really be Jack.

1372
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 14: Sawyer or somebody like that?

1373
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 13: And the second question for you guys is they.

1374
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 10: Have a couple of crowded rooms, wide receiver and offensive line.

1375
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 10: I wonder how do you see the I know it's

1376
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 10: a little early, but how do you.

1377
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 12: See the two rings shaking out?

1378
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 14: Who's going to be sort of left out as a team.

1379
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 7: Thanks Robbie Elliot Wolf was asked about that last.

1380
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 3: The offensive line where it is crowded, don't necessarily think

1381
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 3: the wide receiver room is. But Evan's been talking about

1382
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 3: that competition at guard. I think, you know, the city,

1383
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 3: so someone's got to go.

1384
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it might even be somebody that we

1385
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 8: don't talk a lot about, like Tyrese Robinson.

1386
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 3: You know, but about Iman out of the.

1387
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 8: Strange, so Robinson and Andrews that for some of them.

1388
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now you throw you know, Wilson and Bradberry

1389
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 3: in there.

1390
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, especially if Wilson proves that he can play some guard.

1391
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1392
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 5: I mean there's definitely a world where they say, well,

1393
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 5: Wilson's one of our best five guys, so maybe Bradberry's are,

1394
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 5: you know, also one of our best five. So we'll

1395
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 5: have Bradberry play center and Wilson's gonna play left guard.

1396
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 5: But that means that those three guys that Paul's mentioning,

1397
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 5: now you know, you only really need one interior backup,

1398
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 5: you don't need three. So at some point one of the.

1399
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 3: Strangers, so do they both go like, because I agree

1400
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 3: with Robbie, I think that's a little crowded right now.

1401
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I guess in theory you could if

1402
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 5: that does my situation does happen, then you know, Bradbury

1403
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 5: gets hurt. You can bump Wilson going to the center.

1404
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 5: But I do wonder if that helps cold Strange a

1405
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 5: little bit because he can play a little bit of center,

1406
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 5: so he can kind of back up three different spots

1407
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 5: there on the interior. Whereas you know So and Robinson

1408
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 5: are true guards. It's hard to keep a guy that's

1409
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 5: a one position backup on the offensive line. You usually

1410
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 5: have to be able to play multiple positions.

1411
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 8: Can I ask a question, how crazy am I if

1412
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 8: I hold a very small flame of Cold Strange being

1413
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 8: a good starting left guard this year, like highly athletic.

1414
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 3: I don't.

1415
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 4: I don't.

1416
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think that's out of the

1417
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 3: Roman possibility. But if you know whoever it is, take

1418
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 3: the other guys that you know the Jake Andrews is

1419
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 3: in the city sows and they got to go like, sure,

1420
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 3: you know, I think Laden Robinson is a year two

1421
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 3: guy is going to be given an opportunity, you know,

1422
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 3: to see if he can do the you know, the

1423
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 3: year two And I thought, I don't think he's going

1424
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 3: anywhere either, for the same reason. You've got to make

1425
01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 3: sure that he has an ample opportunity to show what

1426
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 3: he has.

1427
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 8: That's why I think Evan made a good point one

1428
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,439
Speaker 8: of these shows earlier, just about city, you know, maybe

1429
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 8: fitting gap schemes a little bit better. Feeling with Josh

1430
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 8: might want to do a little bit better. Not the

1431
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 8: best suited for the for the wide zone stuff.

1432
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 7: But I just like.

1433
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 8: Cold, strange, super athletic, Like I is there really nothing

1434
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 8: there is there.

1435
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 7: I mean, he's had.

1436
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 8: Little flashes where he looked solid, but it's such a

1437
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 8: wild card.

1438
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 7: I said it a couple of shows ago, like four

1439
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 7: years ago.

1440
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 8: He's a first round pick and you're telling me this

1441
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 8: guy couldn't just be at least a stop gap at

1442
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 8: left guard.

1443
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 3: For a year, and you know he had And I

1444
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 3: was like, you know, Bill saw so much more on

1445
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 3: him than than a lot of other people. How he

1446
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 3: couldn't have been that wrong?

1447
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 4: Right.

1448
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 3: So, and I know that sounds like I'm taking a

1449
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 3: shot at Bill. I know it's actually right. I think

1450
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 3: so much a Bill that I can't believe that he

1451
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 3: was that.

1452
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 7: I love how you put it that way.

1453
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 8: That's it, because that's just that little like, like I said,

1454
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 8: I'm holding this little flame of just.

1455
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 7: Like he can't just be okay, like you know, if

1456
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 7: he's really.

1457
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 8: Athletic, I'm with you, like I think that the there

1458
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 8: is that, and he has some experience at center, which

1459
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 8: offers some versatility as a backup.

1460
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 7: So, as Evan said, backups need to play multiple positions.

1461
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 8: So how strange wild he's my wild card this year

1462
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 8: in camps.

1463
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 7: You know, could he emerge in But.

1464
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting to see how those positions fall.

1465
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 3: And my guess is one or two of those guys

1466
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 3: won't even make it to training. Sure, you know they're

1467
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 3: going to go through the spring and you're going to see,

1468
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 3: like the May twenty fifth, the Patriots have released some

1469
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 3: guy that you know the name, right, But.

1470
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 8: There's no question, I mean, Doug Marone comes in every coach.

1471
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 8: There's players you like, there's players that you don't really

1472
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 8: think can do what you're gonna ask them to do.

1473
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 8: And I'm sure those opinions are starting to form right

1474
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 8: now with him, and who knows what will go into it,

1475
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 8: but I think I think you're right, Paul. They might

1476
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 8: be a little bit heavy there and there's only so

1477
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 8: many reps to go around.

1478
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I really feel that the center flex for cole

1479
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 5: Strange is what's going to help him the most. Like

1480
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 5: the fact that he truly probably could play all three

1481
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 5: interior spots where those other two guys really can only

1482
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 5: play guard. You know that, especially with a rookie that's

1483
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 5: a twenty one year old and had one season as

1484
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 5: a starter at Georgia and Jared Wilson and Bradberry's uncertainty

1485
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 5: in terms of, you know, where he's at in his career.

1486
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 5: You know, if anything is going to save cole Strange,

1487
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 5: to me, it's it's that he can play a little

1488
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 5: bit of center and guard.

1489
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 8: I mean, it's just interesting if you think about the

1490
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 8: line that way of having you know, Mike on when

1491
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 8: you on at right guard, you know, but having these

1492
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 8: athletic guys on the left side, so on the right side,

1493
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 8: you know, you you you've got Morgan Moses in and

1494
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 8: when you kind of big rogue grading guys. And then

1495
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 8: on the other side you might have Cole Strange, who

1496
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 8: might be the most athletic guy on the line. I mean,

1497
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 8: that's what his thing was, was that athleticism. But again

1498
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 8: it's how does the scheme fit into this? What are

1499
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 8: they going to ask these guys to do? But it

1500
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 8: certainly would be intriguing to me thinking about Will Campbell

1501
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 8: with his movement skills and Cole Strange being able to pull.

1502
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 7: Those guys, get those guys out in space.

1503
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 4: You know.

1504
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 8: Meanwhile, while you're just you know, paving the rod on

1505
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 8: the right side of the line.

1506
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 7: It's an interesting balance.

1507
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 5: They've done that in the past too. You know, I

1508
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 5: always go back to Solder, Tuney, Andrews, Mason, Cannon right

1509
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 5: like that, and they had on the right side you

1510
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 5: had two bulldozers and Mason and Cannon, and then on

1511
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 5: the other side you had two really good athletes and

1512
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 5: Solder and Joe Toney. So that that's typically been how

1513
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 5: McDaniels has balanced the line. You know, on the back side,

1514
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 5: on the left side, you want to have athletes, past protectors,

1515
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 5: you know, guys that can do that sort of thing.

1516
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 5: And on the other side is what you run behind,

1517
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 5: so that that's what they did for years.

1518
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 4: Ben and Brooklyn says, if sanders fall is based on

1519
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 4: lack of athleticism, does that make Travis Hunter's accomplishments all

1520
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 4: the greater.

1521
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 3: I think that that might be part of it with

1522
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 3: why people are having some skepticism around Sanders. He had

1523
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 3: the best player in college football that was making plays

1524
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 3: for him all over the place. You don't think that

1525
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 3: that happens. Yeah, I think it's happened with LSU in

1526
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 3: the past. You try to figure out, well, yeah, Zach

1527
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 3: the good guy. Zach Mettenberger is the quarterback at LSU,

1528
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 3: and you know he has Jeremy Hill in the back

1529
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 3: in the backfield, and you know was justin Jefferson there?

1530
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 3: What what? What? What iteration of stud wide receivers did

1531
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 3: he did he play with at the time? You know,

1532
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 3: like and then you start to say, like, well, is

1533
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 3: the quarterback any good or is he just a product

1534
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 3: of some great uh position positional play skill position guys

1535
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 3: around him? Now it's one guy here for Colorado, not

1536
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 3: a stacked offense like LSU has had in the past.

1537
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 3: So I'm not saying his apples to apples. But you

1538
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 3: don't think that some people are looking at that and saying,

1539
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter make anybody complete seventy four percent of his

1540
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 3: passes with those ball skills that Travis.

1541
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 7: Huntra has saw that one catch you jumps back.

1542
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 5: And hands store things annoying me.

1543
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 3: I think, well, and it's funny because I'm on Twitter

1544
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 3: and I'm like just reading, and it's so funny how

1545
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 3: different people are in such different camps. Adam Shine and

1546
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 3: Jeff Donninson a going back and forth talking about how

1547
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 3: the Dolphins might be a good landing spot for him

1548
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 3: because they like to have guys with similarities to tours.

1549
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 5: Burgh's picking right now. They might be a good lie.

1550
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 3: See if I were Pittsburgh, I would take him. But

1551
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 3: they're talking about they want to have similarities with Tua

1552
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,560
Speaker 3: because Tua misses time obviously to his strength what accuracy,

1553
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 3: So Sanders' strength accuracy, you know, good developmental guy. And

1554
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 3: then like Joe Banner, who is obviously on the opposite

1555
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 3: side and very bitter. I don't know if you follow

1556
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 3: Joe Banner at all, He's a bitter follow on Twitter.

1557
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 3: I enjoy it the amount of time on Sanders, who

1558
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 3: the league thinks won't even be a quality backup is crazy.

1559
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 3: The media created this non story and they just can't

1560
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 3: let it go.

1561
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:55,560
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh took Jack Sawyer. They got our guy, got our guy.

1562
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 5: So yeah, the fact that Pittsburgh keeps passing on Shador

1563
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 5: is kind of crazy. Like they their quarterback depth chart

1564
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 5: is is nobody like they they literally Now I assume

1565
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 5: they're playing as Aaron Rodgers and they know that and

1566
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 5: they're just going to sign him after the draft. But

1567
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 5: I would think that even with Aaron Rodgers, and maybe

1568
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,600
Speaker 5: it's Paul's thing that it's he's just too much of

1569
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 5: a distraction as a backup. Like, but if you sign

1570
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers to a one year deal and you're inviting distractions,

1571
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 5: and then you say you draft Shador and then Chador

1572
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 5: sits a year behind Aaron Rodgers and then it's Chadors

1573
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 5: Show next year.

1574
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 3: I would have taken him. I would if I were

1575
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin, very secure, sure, you know, strong, strong willed

1576
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 3: head coach with a good program, as Fred says, I

1577
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 3: would have taken him right there.

1578
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,040
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Speaker 4: the New England Patriots Toyota. Let's go places, all right, Matt,

1582
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 4: Probably a good time for a break.

1583
01:10:58,960 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 7: It's a great time.

1584
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 4: I'm back. We'll get to more calls and emails and

1585
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,759
Speaker 4: we'll see that's the Patriots get closer to the fifth round.

1586
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,759
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Speaker 19: And now great moments in.

1668
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 4: History. I saw Eric before we went to the break.

1669
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 4: You were shaking your head. What are you upset about

1670
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 4: the Bengals?

1671
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? I can't deal with him if he's going to

1672
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 3: be like this all weekend. Fred I needed a buy

1673
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 3: a weekend, Paul.

1674
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 4: We know that the Bengals already gave Joe Burrow his jersey.

1675
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 4: Why hasn't the pickmen made we're five minutes in.

1676
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 18: Let's go to make he's tired.

1677
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 2: He needs his rest.

1678
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 3: It's getting close tired from we haven't done anything in

1679
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 3: seven weeks.

1680
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 7: I'm not Eric, who is.

1681
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 5: Never suddenly bored waiting.

1682
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 8: For yes, Yes, I am board, Megan O'Brien, you're right, Megan,

1683
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 8: we finally found something that bores me.

1684
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 4: The friggin' Bengals.

1685
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.

1686
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 4: All right back here and Patriots sunfiltered eight five to

1687
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 4: five past five hundred.

1688
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 3: Five minutes into the draft, he went on.

1689
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 7: Will this thing just be over?

1690
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,640
Speaker 5: God? Could two people be more alike and more dissimilar

1691
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 5: than me and Eric? Like, well, we are kind of

1692
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 5: alike in some ways.

1693
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 4: But you love the subject matter, right, He hated the subject.

1694
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:18,600
Speaker 3: That's they're in lies the problem. You know there in

1695
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 3: lies the problem.

1696
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 7: You need to be a character.

1697
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,560
Speaker 4: You know you didn't like football, so what are you

1698
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,759
Speaker 4: doing working for the team?

1699
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 3: Right?

1700
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 7: Literally?

1701
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 5: Not even he.

1702
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 3: Thought Fred and I and especially Andy were so beneath him.

1703
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh you were.

1704
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 3: Un beneath everybody. That's why everybody's passed me by. We

1705
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 3: had another visit from a former Patriots employee this week.

1706
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 3: If we'll a member of the media relations department, Casey

1707
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 3: O'Connell hasn't been with the organization since like two thousand

1708
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 3: and eight. It's like a partner in a law firm now,

1709
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 3: just like you had another one just past, a much

1710
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 3: better living, a much better like well put well put well.

1711
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 4: Everyone's been waiting to hear his opinion of Kyle Williams.

1712
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 4: Eldred from North Carolina is on the line. What's up?

1713
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 4: Eldred have been either, oh, you're driving on Saturday?

1714
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 7: Huh, Yeah, Yes, I worked.

1715
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 11: I worked two through stairs.

1716
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 20: I'm up on Sundays and moneys, I can watch the

1717
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 20: football game, okay, and and love Henderson Pet because I

1718
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 20: like I said, I like Ohio State. I like them

1719
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 20: running back to new receivers Kyle Williams, Well, I would

1720
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 20: you would have got Trey Harris or maybe purpose even

1721
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 20: though ANTHONYE was talking about him, you know, doing the

1722
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 20: thing out sort of looked at them a little bit more.

1723
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 12: Yeah, Kyle Williams. They said, it's stilling.

1724
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 6: The number three receiver. Don't we have enough number three

1725
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 6: on the on the roster?

1726
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. You know what Warehome stacked up.

1727
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 5: You know, I couldn't tell you that today, but I

1728
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 5: I what I like so much about him is is

1729
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 5: that he brings a level of speed and separation that

1730
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 5: U in a bigger frame than somebody like a Pop Douglas.

1731
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 5: See the only guy on the roster they have that

1732
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:04,440
Speaker 5: separates like him as probably Pop. But Pop's five nine

1733
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 5: and eighty pounds. You know, this guy's got some size

1734
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 5: to him compared to that.

1735
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 4: Got an inch over yea.

1736
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 6: I love the draft so far, you know, but I

1737
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 6: wish insteadn't getting it at thinner. I wish he got

1738
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 6: an edge rusher or maybe another wire is either. I

1739
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 6: hope they get throwing in the poor for the field.

1740
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 4: Everyone's gone, yeah, he got Draftedting's gone, Yeah, your boy

1741
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 4: got got drafted by the Raiders.

1742
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 3: Very cliche and one of the more predictable things.

1743
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 5: Well I'm gone, Thanks, thanks, dipping in his voice.

1744
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 4: All right, let's go to Tim and Phoenix. What's up Tim?

1745
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 3: I was hoping he'd be more excited about Kyle Williams.

1746
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 11: Good morning, Philips?

1747
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 7: Are you good morning?

1748
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 11: I gotta say I like the fact that we're trading

1749
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 11: our checker pieces for some chest pieces.

1750
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 12: Oh.

1751
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 11: Very happy with the draft. I got two things. One

1752
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 11: from Deuce. Have you heard anything about this rivalry gear

1753
01:18:58,320 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 11: and these uniforms and fan gear?

1754
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I have, what's going on with that? Yeah, so

1755
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 7: new uniforms this year.

1756
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, the AFC East, so all four teams will have

1757
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 8: a uniform that they'll wear I believe once, just once,

1758
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 8: I think, but against each other within the division. So yeah,

1759
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 8: it'll be a new uniform. I think it's out this

1760
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 8: summer sometime is when they'll reveal it. But yeah, they

1761
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 8: got all kinds of swag and everything. It's a it's

1762
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 8: a whole new deal.

1763
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a whole program that the league is doing,

1764
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 4: uh to create these rivalries and AFC East and what

1765
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 4: was the other conference the division that Yeah, so they're

1766
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 4: the only two divisions that are going to be wearing

1767
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 4: them this year, but they'll bring in the rest of

1768
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 4: the league over time. So I don't know, it's like

1769
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 4: it's one game, but there is like merchandise tied to

1770
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 4: it that you'll be able to buy starting this summer,

1771
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 4: so we'll see what it looks like. Hopefully it's pretty cool.

1772
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,799
Speaker 11: You guys, did you guys hear the report from Nesson

1773
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 11: about the division over the second round pick and the

1774
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 11: Patriots draft room.

1775
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 5: It wasn't a report. Elliott Will told everybody at the

1776
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,799
Speaker 5: press conference last night. Did that happened?

1777
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1778
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1779
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 11: He didn't say who the the debate was about, just

1780
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 11: that the pick was picked before. Yeah, and so we

1781
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 11: don't know. But I'm curious, what do you guys think?

1782
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 11: What were the the sides? I guess you could say

1783
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 11: he was on what side? Where do you think the

1784
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 11: division was in that room?

1785
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 4: I have no idea.

1786
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1787
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 8: I don't know, like in terms of like the wanting

1788
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 8: to say if we were going to say it was

1789
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 8: Jade Higgins, I think that was what we were kind

1790
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 8: of speculating.

1791
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:32,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that would make sense just because they

1792
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 5: took a receiver in the next round, so you would

1793
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 5: think that, you know. I also thought Jonas Savania from

1794
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 5: Arizona is another guy that that could have Patriot potential

1795
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 5: written all over him, you know, tackle guard, flex, someone

1796
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 5: like that. So maybe they wanted to were considering at

1797
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 5: least you know, going trenches again and really beefing up

1798
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 5: the offensive line. Then they ended up taking you know,

1799
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 5: Wilson a couple of picks later, so they ended up

1800
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 5: taking an interior offensive lineman as well. Interesting those two guys,

1801
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,520
Speaker 5: like Tim said, who wanted who?

1802
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 4: Then who helped the tie? You know, like, was it

1803
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 4: verbel in fact that said, Okay, this is what we're doing.

1804
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1805
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 11: You know the report that the person that the debate

1806
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 11: was was picked before the Patriots pick came up, so

1807
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 11: the debate was kind of ended.

1808
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's what yeah said. So yeah, yeah,

1809
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 5: So Jonas Savina, the guard from Arizona, was picked thirty

1810
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 5: seven by the Dolphins, and the Dolphins traded into that

1811
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 5: pick to take him.

1812
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 4: Oh that makes sense.

1813
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 3: It stands to reason the Patriots were probably interested in him.

1814
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Tim, thanks for the call. Appreciate it.

1815
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 7: Doug Marone wanted him?

1816
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm not going to speculate who wanted who,

1817
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 5: but if I had to guess, I would put my

1818
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 5: money on one of those two guys, Higgins or Savana.

1819
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 4: Martin writes in it's really nice to watch the draft

1820
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 4: with all of you, especially for your live reaction. I

1821
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:03,719
Speaker 4: have two suggestions to make the listener experience even better.

1822
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 4: For the people whining about being tipped before the main

1823
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 4: TV show in the first round, you could only you

1824
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 4: could tip the pick, but in a more theatrical way,

1825
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,919
Speaker 4: like by saying it the way they do on the stage,

1826
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 4: maybe with the draft chime. Also more often than not,

1827
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 4: I'm an act an archive listener, and it would be

1828
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 4: nice if you could tell the pick position all the

1829
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 4: time when you announce them. This way, it would be

1830
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 4: easier to scroll through the show for certain parts of

1831
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 4: the draft. Or you could make matt work more and

1832
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,560
Speaker 4: have them add the latest pick at the bottom of

1833
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 4: the screen.

1834
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 8: Okay, and I did do you think there'd be an

1835
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 8: appetite at all for Hey, I like the sound an

1836
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 8: appetite at all for a video just best moments from

1837
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 8: the draft shows. Maybe go through and do like a

1838
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 8: five minute little cut up of you know, funny laughs

1839
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 8: and announcing the picks and.

1840
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 7: You know, something like that. Maybe the fans, maybe you

1841
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 7: like that, Guys, let us know.

1842
01:22:54,040 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 4: Sure, let's see, Jason writes in Guys, Kyle Williams something.

1843
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 4: He is not small. He hasn't quotes as he's about

1844
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,799
Speaker 4: six feet. Well, no, he's five to ten.

1845
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 5: Right almost, yeah, change, he's about my size.

1846
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 3: He's almost almost five eleven.

1847
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 5: So he's almost six feet If.

1848
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 4: He's closer to five eleven, then he has six feet Yeah,

1849
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 4: he's under five eleven, right, Yeah, And another point of

1850
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 4: some comfort is he was widely viewed positively by the

1851
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 4: media scouts like Daniel Jeremiah, Mike Renner. The pick was applauded,

1852
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 4: whereas when Taekwon was picked, all of those raised eyebrows

1853
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,759
Speaker 4: and on Shador. Now you're talking about drafting a backup,

1854
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 4: and would any team want their backup to bring that

1855
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 4: kind of attention to the team, right, That's that's the problem.

1856
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jalen Travis interesting interesting pick. Developmental tackles are starting

1857
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 5: to go now. But yeah, I mean we none of

1858
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 5: us have to be sold on Kyle Williams. I think

1859
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 5: we all are pretty excited about you.

1860
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 7: We can spend like two hours talking about him. Yeah

1861
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 7: before they picked him.

1862
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm just laughing those like you know here and

1863
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 8: Evan random names pop up.

1864
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 7: Now I'm starting to be like, I don't know who

1865
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 7: these guys are.

1866
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 3: You are at that points?

1867
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 8: How doesn't like to believe wet I got there late

1868
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:13,719
Speaker 8: last night, But now I'm wondering a couple of guys

1869
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 8: I did not, like.

1870
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 7: What do we do? What do we do with Eric?

1871
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 7: On day three? Like what what like he didn't even

1872
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 7: have the day.

1873
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 5: On Jalen Blane.

1874
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 3: Eric came on dating.

1875
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 5: I thought Jalen Travis would be an interesting pick for

1876
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 5: them as like a flyer at tackle, developmental tackle, A

1877
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 5: huge dude, like six six three forty three fifty good athlete.

1878
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 5: I was interested in him at this point of the draft.

1879
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,600
Speaker 5: Maybe a little bit later as if they wanted to

1880
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 5: double dip and get you know, the shirt thing with Campbell,

1881
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 5: but maybe get like a developmental tackle on day three

1882
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:49,759
Speaker 5: with some tools, some upside.

1883
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 7: I like this kid, Jalen Lane too.

1884
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 5: He's fast.

1885
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 8: It was one of my want fast guys. I know

1886
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 8: that's and that's he was. He was on my BB

1887
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 8: same thing though, the same thing.

1888
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 3: We've been talking even in fourth round. They get up

1889
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 3: in Yeah a fast.

1890
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 5: Guy like kind of a gadget player is a little

1891
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 5: little Mikole hardenan to.

1892
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 3: On the front.

1893
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 7: H Yeah. Yeah.

1894
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 3: Remember we used to do the movie review with Larry Yeah,

1895
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 3: random moments with Yeah.

1896
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 4: He was a big, big movie guy. Kirk writes in

1897
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 4: Happy Saturday. He's from Burlington, Ontario. Thought we could have

1898
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 4: picked better than cals uh Woodson. I thought Ransom is better.

1899
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 3: He got Yeah, he got taken within ten picks. Also

1900
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 3: fire of State safety, right Ransom.

1901
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I also thought David Walker was the best defensive player.

1902
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 4: He reminds me of Elvis Dumerville.

1903
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, David Walker is a free really small school prospect

1904
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 5: from Central Arkansas. But when you watch those guys, you

1905
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 5: want them to dominate, and especially with power. He dominated.

1906
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 5: I mean, he would just ragged all dudes at that level.

1907
01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 5: I Ransom was was Luke worm on him. He He's

1908
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 5: not a great athlete, you know. I think he's more

1909
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 5: of a box safety, you know, close to the line

1910
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 5: of scrimmage. I think Woodson is more of a guy

1911
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 5: that can play from depth and play deeper down the

1912
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 5: field and maybe even playing center field.

1913
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 3: He went about six fifteen, sixteen picks after.

1914
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that it's a fair point about the safeties,

1915
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 5: you know, I keep saying, Billy Bowman went Lantham Race

1916
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 5: and went Patriots took Woodson at the top of the round.

1917
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 5: And it will be interesting to see, you know, in

1918
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 5: two years, which which ones end up being better. You know.

1919
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,799
Speaker 3: It's funny though, is something tells me that won't generate

1920
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 3: the amount of attention of like the wide receivers you

1921
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 3: know everybody can rattle off the wives. Well, I mean

1922
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 3: we all remember that, you know that treat that trio

1923
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 3: was Safeties that went in the fourth round, you know,

1924
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 3: back in twenty five.

1925
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 5: Well, because we're absolutely absolute sickos, Catch twenty two, h

1926
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 5: Well we'll we'll talk twenty minutes about them taking Billy Bowman.

1927
01:26:55,120 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, like the mid eight that your tagline Catch twenty too,

1928
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 4: will remember.

1929
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, did you did you check in with Barky on

1930
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 7: your ride home last night?

1931
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 4: It was no, We know he.

1932
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 5: Was still working, so I tried calling him, but he

1933
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 5: wasn't ready to talk yet, so probably talk.

1934
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 3: To ready to No, No, I'm not there yet.

1935
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 4: So I know nothing will be you're ready for your

1936
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 4: close up after you phase after nothing will.

1937
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 5: Be the cold, strange draft. And him and I spent

1938
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 5: about an hour and a half on the phone trying

1939
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 5: to top each other off the ledge and uh and

1940
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 5: the two of us and and Jesson is sleeping in

1941
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 5: the other room and she comes in and she's like,

1942
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,560
Speaker 5: you're screaming, it's two o'clock in the morning.

1943
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 7: Like can we go to bed?

1944
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 5: And I was like, they drafted the card.

1945
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 7: She still gonna be made.

1946
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 5: This is ridiculous. I remember I remember her looking uh

1947
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 5: into I think we were on FaceTime or something. I

1948
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 5: remember her looking at Alex and being like, he's going

1949
01:27:58,439 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 5: to bed now, all right.

1950
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 4: And they're doing enough FaceTime so they can see each

1951
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,600
Speaker 4: other married.

1952
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 3: Or of facial expressions are important.

1953
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 5: We were we were.

1954
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 3: You just saying you like the pick or do you

1955
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 3: mean it? I need to see your face.

1956
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 5: We were in a tough spot that night. We were

1957
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,839
Speaker 5: we were in a down boy, don't.

1958
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 4: Do what to say.

1959
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 5: Oh no, the Patriots have drafted offensive lineman Cole Strange

1960
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 5: from Chattanooga. Okay, we don't need to get it gets

1961
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:30,719
Speaker 5: worse from your.

1962
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 3: That is that his ransom?

1963
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:37,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, black little blackmailed compromise. Kirk also says, I hope

1964
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 4: they consider Tory Horton. His cop is DeVante Smith, and

1965
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 4: if he didn't get injured, he would be a top

1966
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 4: wide receiver in this draft. Do we agree with that? Assessments?

1967
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:48,759
Speaker 8: Do you think you ever gets to the point where

1968
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 8: the general sentiment be like they drafted too many wide receivers, like.

1969
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 7: They just people will never ever ever have enough.

1970
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 8: Wide receivers, like could just always give them.

1971
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 4: Concerning Sanders, I don't think any coaches signing off on

1972
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 4: this legendary player because if they pick him, then in

1973
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 4: one year Dion may be lurking around the corner for

1974
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 4: their jobs. Of course, I.

1975
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 3: Do think that that's an element of this.

1976
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, that's just part of it. The entitled

1977
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,799
Speaker 4: attitude is the main issue. I thought he was accurate

1978
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 4: as I watched quite a few of his games. He

1979
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 4: holds onto the ball because he thinks he can be

1980
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:23,719
Speaker 4: the hero and make every play.

1981
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 3: Did he say he thought he was inaccurate?

1982
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:26,799
Speaker 4: No, he thought he was accurate.

1983
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 3: That's the one thing that most scouts are one hundred

1984
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 3: percent agreement.

1985
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 4: He thought he was accurate. Do you think Dion has

1986
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 4: the capacity to, on reflection say, you know what, I

1987
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 4: might have really hurt my son.

1988
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 3: No?

1989
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 4: No, yeah, yeah, I just wonder.

1990
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 7: I think the trains left the station on that.

1991
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 4: Maybe in my enthusiasm because I think I actually hurt him.

1992
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,600
Speaker 8: I mean that's I mean, as a dad, that's a

1993
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 8: hard place to be, feeling like you screwed up your

1994
01:29:58,000 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 8: son's chance at his tree.

1995
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 7: Like that's a really really hard place to be.

1996
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 8: I don't know, but it's hard to see him having

1997
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 8: that kind of reflective attitude, and.

1998
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 7: Ultimately I think they're just going to blame the media.

1999
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 3: You know, and say it'll be it'll be someone else's fall.

2000
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:17,600
Speaker 5: So the Jets are taking Malachai more the safety from Alabama,

2001
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 5: so we'll remember Billy Bowman Malachai Moore. Yeah, go later

2002
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,799
Speaker 5: in the fourth round. So a little run on safeties

2003
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 5: here in the fourth round.

2004
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 8: And what do I see on the track the ticker

2005
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 8: there It is n E coming down the.

2006
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:35,600
Speaker 4: Bend Teddy Buchanan.

2007
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, ted Y. So you saw some reports periodically over

2008
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 3: the course of said like the last six months where

2009
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 3: what would make sense is, you know, hiring Dion and

2010
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 3: then letting him be you know, like make it, make

2011
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 3: it a package, you know, the giant, you know, get

2012
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:04,679
Speaker 3: rid of the table and let him. I don't think

2013
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 3: that that's not part of this now. So I'm going

2014
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 3: to have him as my backup quarterback and then head

2015
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,719
Speaker 3: coach and winning. Now, all of a sudden it doesn't

2016
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 3: go well and I'm out, you know, and he's waiting

2017
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 3: in the wings.

2018
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,440
Speaker 7: And then the ownership's got to interview head coach candidates.

2019
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:20,799
Speaker 3: And I don't think that that's all that far fetched,

2020
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 3: that that's I'm not telling you. That's the reason I'm

2021
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 3: saying that some percentage.

2022
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 4: I heard somebody say, well, he's not going to do that.

2023
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 4: He's got enough on his plate being the head coach

2024
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 4: of Colorado. He'll find time. Oh yeah, he'll find time

2025
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 4: to get involved.

2026
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 8: I mean, the whole Belichick at Falcons thing, I think

2027
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 8: is a little bit of an example of that of

2028
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 8: where the front office revolts a little bit because they

2029
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 8: see it as a power play and that they're going

2030
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 8: to lose power.

2031
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:45,879
Speaker 3: They're going to lose my jobs.

2032
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and believe me, these guys are worried about that.

2033
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 7: Every day.

2034
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 4: Every day is an opportunity or a reason to it's.

2035
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 7: And it happens so fast.

2036
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 8: I think, like I really noticed it going to the

2037
01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 8: combine for I guess for five years or whatever it's

2038
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 8: been now that it's just all of a sudden, there's

2039
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 8: a new guy. Oh now, and now this guy is

2040
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:05,719
Speaker 8: the new head coach, and it's all it just.

2041
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 7: It changes so fast in this league.

2042
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 4: It wouldn't be a show if we didn't have Christian

2043
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 4: from LA and from LA to enrage everyone. What's up Christian?

2044
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 21: Yeah, hey you guys, good morning or good afternoon. Out

2045
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 21: there where you guys are. I am in of course,

2046
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 21: La La Land, where it's raining today, just like me,

2047
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 21: and I just want to.

2048
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:28,440
Speaker 15: Say this to the La and Christian La haters.

2049
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 21: I am not an actor. In case you guys having

2050
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,600
Speaker 21: been listening out there in radio land, I am the

2051
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 21: owner of a personal assistant app called Wait Number for Me.

2052
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 21: I am not an actor.

2053
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 15: I am in tech.

2054
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 4: I thought yesterday's performance was either alcohol infused. I thought

2055
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:46,480
Speaker 4: it was a little bit put on Christian.

2056
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 21: Whether you thought or not, I was angry because I

2057
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 21: saw this team going in the wrong direction. I've been

2058
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 21: a fan of team since nineteen seventy nine. I've met

2059
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 21: Mit the Craft person, had a conversation with him. I've

2060
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 21: been listening to this show for ten years. I've been

2061
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 21: calling into this show for five years. And if I

2062
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 21: was angry, it was because I thought Bravel doing what

2063
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 21: I thought was going to make Tennessee Titans two point zero,

2064
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:14,719
Speaker 21: and it em raised me. Because I love this team.

2065
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 21: I am in for this team and I will die

2066
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:19,640
Speaker 21: for this team on the football if I could, but

2067
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 21: I can't. So the most the most I can do

2068
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:25,639
Speaker 21: is call and express myself, reprect my opinions. Now with that, says,

2069
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 21: and I'm going to load my blood pressure. I do

2070
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 21: like what we're doing. On the back end of the

2071
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 21: of the draft. I'm turned around completely, Brabel, You're back

2072
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 21: in life, good grace.

2073
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 15: I will say this, Williams meakingly. Yeah.

2074
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 21: Tom Brady has secretly those two of my picks. I

2075
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 21: do love wims that he's going to be a big

2076
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 21: star for us. But I do wonder do we have

2077
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,719
Speaker 21: an aversion to guys that are six foot and above?

2078
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 21: Why can't we ever draft a receiver of who's above

2079
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 21: six foot?

2080
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 5: Would you rather above six foot receiver that can't get

2081
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 5: open or a sub six foot receiver that does get open?

2082
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 4: And I but he's not alone a lot of no,

2083
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 4: I'm not saying. But the thing is the six foot

2084
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 4: plus receivers that that.

2085
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 3: Can't get over those are the first round picks.

2086
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 6: Right.

2087
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:12,639
Speaker 5: Well, that's that's my point, right, you know, like you're

2088
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 5: not going to in the third round, you weren't going

2089
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 5: to get Hey, you're not getting you know, Dk Metcalf

2090
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 5: in the third round. That's the reason.

2091
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:21,720
Speaker 15: Just for DK Metcalf Part two.

2092
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 3: Who you're talking about, Dante Thornton.

2093
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 15: This guy's DK Metcalf. Part two.

2094
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 3: Okay, based off what we'll see, maybe maybe there's another

2095
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 3: guy like that that ends up happening. I think that

2096
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 3: DK Metcalf is a little bit of an outliar, but

2097
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 3: we'll see. Maybe this guy will be the DK Metcalf

2098
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 3: Part two.

2099
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 5: You might be right, d DK Metcalf had much better

2100
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 5: college production than done. Here's a much.

2101
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 21: Better college k Metcalf did not run three for either.

2102
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 5: Yeah he did, Yeah he did.

2103
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 21: But so on Kyle Williams, before I go, do we

2104
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 21: have that can keep hand fighting? Because that seems to

2105
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 21: be the thing on kylein Williams that he good is

2106
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 21: a great separated but he separates with his feet instead

2107
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 21: of his hands at the line. You are why receiver

2108
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 21: coaches have they had the sort of like it's part

2109
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 21: of their background that they were good hand fighters at

2110
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 21: the line.

2111
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 7: I don't know, I don't know.

2112
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 5: I'm well, he's got a nice release package to his game.

2113
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 5: But I would say to him, Christians is right that

2114
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 5: I wouldn't call him a physical player. I think he's

2115
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 5: he does. He wins with his feet, he wins with

2116
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 5: speed and separation.

2117
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm like, I've been dying for this for years.

2118
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 8: I have a guy who can win with his feet,

2119
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 8: like you know.

2120
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:37,640
Speaker 3: No DeVante Parker, like just throwing balls up to him

2121
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 3: and hope that he can out jump a guy or

2122
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 3: you know, win a battle.

2123
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 7: Out physical people.

2124
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going to get bogged down. And you know,

2125
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 3: well he needs to have better hand fighting at the

2126
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 3: line to get off press. Man. If I watch him

2127
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 3: at training camp and he doesn't look like he's one

2128
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 3: of those guys that gets open. Aaron Dobson was a

2129
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 3: guy that I watched in college. I didn't like him

2130
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 3: because he didn't ever seem like he was open, whether

2131
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 3: he used his hands or try to get open with

2132
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 3: his feet, however you tried to do it, he didn't

2133
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 3: get open. This guy when I watch him on highlights,

2134
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 3: admittedly highlights which you're seeing a lot of good stuff,

2135
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 3: he gets open.

2136
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 8: I mean, it's it's so simplified, but it's so true.

2137
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 8: And I can't tell you how many training camps have

2138
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 8: sat through where it's just you know, we watched the

2139
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 8: practice and then we all meander down as we're waiting

2140
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 8: for the interviews to begin, and you just hear that's

2141
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 8: nobody open. Nobody can get open, like you just hear

2142
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 8: people always saying that, and that's going to be the

2143
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 8: number one thing.

2144
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 3: That's there, goes Paul again, making fun of.

2145
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 7: I was thinking, to g gard is a big no

2146
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 7: one's open guy. Yeah, I mean, he's all no One's open.

2147
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 5: I would just to you know, be tell the complete

2148
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 5: story here about like that. That is the one concern

2149
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:47,719
Speaker 5: that you have is like playing through contact and play

2150
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 5: strength and you know, dealing with physical coverage at this

2151
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 5: level and all that kind of stuff. If he doesn't

2152
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 5: work out, that's probably going to be why. It's probably

2153
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 5: going to be because he can't get off press and

2154
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 5: he can't get off physical coverage. So once we get

2155
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 5: out the training camp, in real training camp with the

2156
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 5: pads on and all that kind of stuff, let's see

2157
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:07,680
Speaker 5: what he looks like against Carlton Davis. Let's see, you know,

2158
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 5: what he looks like against a physical corner that has

2159
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 5: that kind of skill set, and we'll see if he

2160
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 5: can get open against him. But that if that's what,

2161
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 5: you know, that's the smallest he concern right now with

2162
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 5: Kyle Williams in terms of you know, you look at

2163
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 5: every prospect like if this guy fails, what will the

2164
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 5: reason be If he fails, it's going to be you know, playstrained,

2165
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 5: finishing through contact, that kind of stuff.

2166
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 8: Well, I mean put it in context too. You you

2167
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 8: spoke yesterday about what they might need to do to

2168
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 8: help Will Campbell out a little bit. And that's what

2169
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:37,719
Speaker 8: I think I'm hopeful with Josh McDaniels is that he's creative.

2170
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 8: If Kyle WiM's having trouble getting off press or getting

2171
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 8: and he's gonna get him away, he's gonna motion him,

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01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 8: he's gonna buy him some space so that he can

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01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 8: maybe build up some speed. So I have confidence that,

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01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 8: you know, Josh McDaniel's gonna be able to put these

2175
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 8: pieces together.

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01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 7: But man, he must be in the lab right now

2177
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 7: just looking at Henderson. Oh yeah, we go this guy here,

2178
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 7: you know what I mean.

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01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 5: What it's a great point about, you know, moving him

2180
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 5: around the formation, and that's probably where his best long

2181
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 5: term role is is playing off the line and letting

2182
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 5: him you know, release off of stacks and bunch of

2183
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 5: alignments and out of the slot and things like that

2184
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 5: where he's going to get away from the physical coverage

2185
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 5: a little bit and allow him to just get off

2186
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 5: the line quickly. But you hope that he's able to

2187
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 5: be pressed on the outside like he did a little

2188
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 5: bit in college, and then that now that's a complete receiver.

2189
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 5: Like now we're talking about a guy that can do

2190
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 5: a little bit of everything that elevates his ceiling even more.

2191
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 5: He showed flashes of it certainly at Washington, Sam he

2192
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 5: ran right by Travis Hunter. Like I know we keep

2193
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:33,799
Speaker 5: bringing it up, but like that's those are the reps

2194
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 5: when you watch him on the outside, when he beats

2195
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 5: Travis Hunter and press and runs right by him, that

2196
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 5: you say, well, if he can do that at the

2197
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:42,679
Speaker 5: next level, then this guy's going to be a real player.

2198
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 4: Scott and san Diego writes, And here's the transcript from

2199
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 4: Christian from LA's conversation with mister Kraft. Christian, I own

2200
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,719
Speaker 4: six homes, including a villa and burritz in a mountain

2201
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 4: estate and Aspen. Mister Craft, I don't care, pack up

2202
01:38:56,000 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 4: your pup tent and get off my lawn. I think

2203
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 4: something like that.

2204
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 7: I think Christians really leaned into into his.

2205
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:03,799
Speaker 4: Well, that's okay.

2206
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:05,240
Speaker 3: I told you he's taking a heel turn.

2207
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 7: It's good.

2208
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 4: He's become a carriage.

2209
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:10,640
Speaker 3: John Cena is like he's going hell all this.

2210
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 7: Time that I haven't heard before that.

2211
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 4: It's just we've had a couple of those over the

2212
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 4: you know, Mark in the Bay was one embracing the embrace.

2213
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 3: He didn't take a heel turn though, he was just

2214
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 3: always a heel.

2215
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, he was harassedteric right, Mark with rank Ye, it's

2216
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 8: like blood in the water.

2217
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 3: But these guys that are getting taken right you know,

2218
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 3: late day two, day three wide receivers, they're they're they're

2219
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 3: going to have like in the negative call, you know,

2220
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 3: the strengths and weaknesses. The weaknesses are going to be visible.

2221
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 3: That's why they're there. You know, the guy that everybody

2222
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 3: wants this, you know, perfect prospect in Dante Thorton. What's

2223
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 3: his negative I don't know. He caught like twenty passes

2224
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 3: last year, but twenty five. Like, if I'm going to

2225
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 3: have a guy that has some weaknesses, at least give

2226
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 3: me some production and and Kyle Williams had that. I

2227
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 3: would much rather have Kyle Williams than Thornton one hundred percent.

2228
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:07,559
Speaker 5: I mean, I was totally on board with taking a

2229
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 5: flyer on Thornton today, Like if they hadn't taken a

2230
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 5: receiver yet and they just wanted to throw a fifth

2231
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 5: round pick.

2232
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 3: On Dante's story, I'm enamored with that skill set, like

2233
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 3: I like. I like the big as much as you

2234
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 3: mock me, Mike. I like the big X. I like

2235
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 3: the big outside guys that would get down the field

2236
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 3: and the top off the defense and all that stuff.

2237
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 3: I like that.

2238
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 4: But Calvin Johnson's is are hard to find.

2239
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 3: But you need to have some production to go with it.

2240
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I understand, you know, if you look at just

2241
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 5: the raw measurables of him, you know, being similar to

2242
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 5: the DK Metcalf strictly from a size speed ratio. But

2243
01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 5: DK Metcalf was the only reason why DK Metcalf fell

2244
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 5: to the second round was because of injury. He had

2245
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 5: an injury in college his last year, and so he

2246
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 5: fell to the second round. He was a much better

2247
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 5: prospect than Dante.

2248
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 4: Thorton, Brian says, whose attitude is were Shador Sanders or

2249
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 4: Christian in La.

2250
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 5: I was gonna save me for a second.

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01:40:58,120 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 3: It's funny.

2252
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 5: I thought I was gonna say me, all right, that's good.

2253
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 4: See we laugh. But all these emails are coming in

2254
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 4: about Christian from La.

2255
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 3: No. I know, you know, that's why I think he's

2256
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:11,160
Speaker 3: taking a heel turn.

2257
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 4: Good for him, engaged engagement.

2258
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 7: I like it.

2259
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 4: Henry writes in from Montana to the last callers point

2260
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:20,680
Speaker 4: that we can't draft a receiver over six feet the

2261
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 4: kil Harry is six to Taekwon Thornton was six two.

2262
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 4: How those picks go?

2263
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, ye, though I've always just been I always,

2264
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 5: I'm always just a sucker for the guys like Kyle

2265
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 5: Williams like this, this the separators, the speed, good with

2266
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 5: the ball in your hands like that. I would much

2267
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 5: rather build around that kind of guy.

2268
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2269
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 8: I don't know if it's I've been scarred by some

2270
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 8: of the Patriots picks, but for me, like the contested

2271
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 8: catch guys, when that's their big trade, I just I

2272
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:54,680
Speaker 8: shy away from it. I feel like that's very specific

2273
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,560
Speaker 8: skill set that's hard to.

2274
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 7: Be consistent and sustain.

2275
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 8: And people talk about it like we absolute, well, you

2276
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:04,640
Speaker 8: need a jump ball guy, right, Like why why not

2277
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 8: just have.

2278
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:06,720
Speaker 7: Guys that can catch the ball and run with it?

2279
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 7: That That to me is yeah.

2280
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not saying that if you want to

2281
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 5: round out the room so you have one of those

2282
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 5: guys in the room.

2283
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 8: Sides, But I'm find with Mac Collins, like, great, we

2284
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 8: got a tall receiver who's playing special. Teams will throw

2285
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 8: them on the outside for a couple of snaps the game,

2286
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:22,600
Speaker 8: but you know, for the most part, you want to

2287
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 8: be doing it with your volume guys, and especially after

2288
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 8: the catch. That's just where I think they've really struggled

2289
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 8: to produce. I mean, I you talk about catch the

2290
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:33,599
Speaker 8: ball fall down with you know, back in the day,

2291
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 8: with what was my old guys, Philip Dorsett.

2292
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 7: He was.

2293
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 3: Used to I like, I like how Dion did catch

2294
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 3: the ball, get down, stayed he stayed healthy at least.

2295
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:50,040
Speaker 4: Eddie and La. To the people upset about Kyle Williams size,

2296
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 4: did they forget about Max Hollins. I know he's probably

2297
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 4: reached his ceiling as a player, but he's still a

2298
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 4: guy who proved himself for the league. And I'd rather

2299
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 4: have Hollands than take a flare flyer, a big wide

2300
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 4: receiver in the third round or after.

2301
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just there weren't any receivers. And I said

2302
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 5: this before the draft like numerous times, like the big

2303
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 5: outside X receiver did not really exist in this draft

2304
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 5: past Ted McMillan and Jaden Higgins, like those were the

2305
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 5: two guys. I guess if you like Trey Harris from

2306
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 5: Ole Miss, you could throw him in there too, But

2307
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 5: he went fifty fit to the Chargers. You know, he

2308
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 5: went early, so like there weren't a ton of that

2309
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 5: in this draft. There was a lot more, you know,

2310
01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 5: Jalen Royals just went you know, obviously the Patriots drafted

2311
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 5: Kyle Williams. Like there was a lot more of that

2312
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 5: kind of receiver in this group, and there was like

2313
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 5: the big outside guys. That's why Thornton went early. Like

2314
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:41,439
Speaker 5: Thornton went probably around earlier than I think he probably

2315
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 5: should have, because they wanted that type of receiver and

2316
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 5: they're just asn't any of them available, so they ended

2317
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 5: up taking him a little bit earlier.

2318
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:50,520
Speaker 3: Royals to the Chiefs too, so.

2319
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 5: That's a good pick by them.

2320
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jared Wright said, I checked out of the podcast

2321
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 4: and following the team after the end of the season,

2322
01:43:58,040 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 4: but I'm back now.

2323
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:00,160
Speaker 3: Oh nice, right.

2324
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 4: Bottom line for me, we were the worst in our

2325
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:05,559
Speaker 4: division last year. Where do you think we are now?

2326
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 4: I think we're a number two with a sniff.

2327
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 8: With a sniff, I mean, I would hope that they

2328
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 8: can get ahead of the Jets with Justin Fields. I

2329
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:19,600
Speaker 8: just Miami to me is the interesting one because I

2330
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 8: find Miami so frustrating because.

2331
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:23,720
Speaker 7: I can't beat Tua.

2332
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 8: And but for some reason, Miami can never beat good teams,

2333
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 8: you know, so the Patriots have never really been.

2334
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:31,800
Speaker 7: A good team against Tua overall.

2335
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:34,559
Speaker 8: But if there's something that Mike Vrabel wants to hang

2336
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 8: his hat on with this team, I would hope it's.

2337
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:39,640
Speaker 7: Beating a team like Miami at least here, especially if

2338
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 7: it gets cold out.

2339
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 8: But you know, that's the toughness and you know, trying

2340
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:43,679
Speaker 8: to slow them down.

2341
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 7: They've just been powerless against you.

2342
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 3: I think Miami's predict because you just don't. I think

2343
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,200
Speaker 3: there's so much uncertain Tyreek Hill.

2344
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 7: Back, Is he not back?

2345
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? If Tua, if you're gonna tell me Tua is

2346
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 3: gonna like be there, be dependable and be reliable and

2347
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 3: they know it and everything falls accordingly, then I think

2348
01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 3: there'll be a tough out.

2349
01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 4: But like, here's what you can't do that. Here's a prediction.

2350
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:11,560
Speaker 4: In April prediction for the twenty twenty five season. By November,

2351
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 4: no later than Thanksgiving, we're gonna be talking about Mike

2352
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:16,599
Speaker 4: McDaniel being on the hot seat.

2353
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:19,719
Speaker 5: Clay Robinson to the Broncos those edges.

2354
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 3: I'm not throwing my eyes. I think he was on

2355
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 3: the hot seat last year. I just don't think it's

2356
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:26,680
Speaker 3: all that, you know, bold of a pit. I mean,

2357
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:30,600
Speaker 3: I gets hurt again he's going to be on the

2358
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 3: hot seat. I mean he just signed an extension last

2359
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 3: year and he was on the hot seat. Daniel.

2360
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 8: We get so many calls like acting to predict, like

2361
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:41,760
Speaker 8: what the record's going to be, what's the floor, what's

2362
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 8: the ceiling?

2363
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:44,040
Speaker 7: All that, like maybe to oversimplify it.

2364
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:46,560
Speaker 8: And I'm a big look at the division guy to

2365
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 8: the playoffs, goes through the division, you win your division,

2366
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 8: you get in. But I look at Miami as maybe

2367
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:53,720
Speaker 8: like a good barometer this year, like can you can

2368
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 8: you get over that.

2369
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 7: Hump a little bit? Can you figure out to can

2370
01:45:56,840 --> 01:45:57,639
Speaker 7: you solve that?

2371
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 8: Because they just whenever that offenses humming with Tua, the

2372
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 8: Patriots have just seemed like, man, we can't like he's

2373
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:06,679
Speaker 8: completely like ninety percent of his passes, like it's just drop.

2374
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 5: The game down to Miami. Last year was brutal.

2375
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 3: I mean I was fairly competitive, and I don't.

2376
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:13,679
Speaker 8: Get it because then you watch another team that's good

2377
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 8: and they go up against them, and you're like, where

2378
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 8: is this Miami team when the Patriots play them? Somehow

2379
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 8: the Patriots could never force them to be that team.

2380
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 8: And you know, with very able the toughness, the speed

2381
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 8: that they're adding the aggressiveness on defense. I also wonder

2382
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:28,679
Speaker 8: we talk about this a lot with the Patriots defense

2383
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 8: in the past, relying more on two gapping when you

2384
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 8: have Tua who gets the ball out quick and you're

2385
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 8: not even in the zip code of disrupting him when

2386
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 8: he's getting that ball out under two seconds. Maybe now

2387
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,919
Speaker 8: with this defensive shift, they're going to be more aggressive

2388
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 8: getting after him. You're gonna have Milton Williams, Christian Barmore

2389
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:47,480
Speaker 8: getting up field and causing that kind of quick hesitation

2390
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 8: where you see then it unravels for Tua in some

2391
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:52,600
Speaker 8: games that the Patriots frankly, just haven't been able to

2392
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 8: get them to.

2393
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:56,439
Speaker 3: I think the Patriots will have every opportunity to move

2394
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 3: ahead of the Jets and the Dolphins, but I'm not

2395
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 3: telling you that they will. I mean there's a lot

2396
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 3: of uncertainty, and we're talking about Toola being hurt.

2397
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:05,719
Speaker 4: Well, I'm what.

2398
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:08,200
Speaker 3: If these other guys for the Patriots that were relying

2399
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 3: on get hurt, Like last year the Patriots had some.

2400
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 4: Injuries, then I'll have an excuse they would have no.

2401
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 3: No, no, I know that I'm this is like, this

2402
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 3: is sort of answering the email. Not you know, you're

2403
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 3: like unabashed if you can't do that on draft weekend.

2404
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:26,720
Speaker 3: I mean, really, there's no call for that. If you

2405
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 3: can't do it.

2406
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 8: Now, there's been some pretty bad dress I wasn't wooing

2407
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 8: that much, but.

2408
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:35,720
Speaker 5: I don't know. It does make me feel optimistic, though,

2409
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:38,200
Speaker 5: because we're so close to the Patriots and so close

2410
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 5: to the team that sometimes it's it's good to listen

2411
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,840
Speaker 5: to what some of the national guys feel about what

2412
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 5: they've done and they're especially at the end of last night,

2413
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 5: there were a lot of people that I saw Brett

2414
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:53,639
Speaker 5: Coleman he posted the Patriots offensive depth chart, and we're like, okay,

2415
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 5: like they I can see, you know, where they're kind

2416
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:58,439
Speaker 5: of going with this, Like there's some pieces here now

2417
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:01,720
Speaker 5: that I like, and and so that's always good to

2418
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 5: see people on the national stage that have no allegiances

2419
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 5: whatsoever to the Patriots and have no you know, fan

2420
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:10,760
Speaker 5: in there. I just feel like there's a.

2421
01:48:10,720 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 3: Lot of that, and I see, I feel we talked

2422
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 3: about this before the show. I feel there's way more

2423
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 3: excitement around the Patriots right now in this you know,

2424
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:24,800
Speaker 3: in the Vrabel sort of clarival than there has been

2425
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:27,679
Speaker 3: in recent years. But like, I can go back last

2426
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 3: year and find the Sports Illustrated guy Connor or who

2427
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,880
Speaker 3: picked the Patriots to win the division, you know, And

2428
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:35,920
Speaker 3: I'm just like I could do that too. I work here,

2429
01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:37,759
Speaker 3: and I can get on board and I can be all,

2430
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:42,679
Speaker 3: you know, over the top enthusiastic and you know, embrace

2431
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:46,559
Speaker 3: mysunshine dot com persona. But I just don't believe that.

2432
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 3: I never believed that the Patriots were in the same

2433
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:51,639
Speaker 3: stratosphere as the Bills. So how am I gonna put

2434
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:53,760
Speaker 3: pick them to beat the Bills last year? I'm not

2435
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:56,720
Speaker 3: even talking about now, this was two years ago. Like

2436
01:48:57,400 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 3: there's no way.

2437
01:48:59,000 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2438
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:02,760
Speaker 3: So, I I don't really like the fact that that

2439
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 3: national guys are embracing what they're doing. I don't really care.

2440
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 3: But around here I do care, yea. And the groundswell

2441
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 3: of sort of enthusiasm and excitement with the people that

2442
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 3: the same people that have been really down the last

2443
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 3: two years, winning four games each of the last few years.

2444
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:21,800
Speaker 3: Those same people are now starting to say, hey, there's

2445
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 3: a chance. There was an argument between Mark Bertrand and

2446
01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:28,720
Speaker 3: Phil Perry the other day yesterday about where the Patriots

2447
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 3: could potentially be picking. Beatle was saying that they should

2448
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 3: have been interested in that kind of a trade that

2449
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:36,759
Speaker 3: the Browns and the Jags did, right, and his reasoning

2450
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:40,519
Speaker 3: was they shouldn't be expecting to have a high pick

2451
01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 3: in next year's draft. They should be expecting to win eight,

2452
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:45,880
Speaker 3: nine ten games and be in the playoffs. And Phil

2453
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 3: Perry said, wow, I mean, that's really optimistic that you're

2454
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 3: potentially giving away another top ten pick, and that was

2455
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 3: sort of the crux of their argument. No, it's not

2456
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:57,439
Speaker 3: going to be a top ten pick, and it was

2457
01:49:57,479 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 3: a legitimate argument that Bertrand was saying, No, they're not

2458
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:02,000
Speaker 3: going to pick in the top ten next year. They've

2459
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 3: done too much much. Not that I'm taking their word

2460
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 3: as gospel, but I'm much more interested in those guys

2461
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:10,200
Speaker 3: because those are the guys that have been really down

2462
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:13,200
Speaker 3: about the state of the team and where it's been

2463
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:15,599
Speaker 3: in the lack of talent, because they see what they

2464
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 3: did in free agency, and they're heading into a draft

2465
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 3: where they get Will Campbell and now they pick up

2466
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 3: a couple other pieces on Day two. I think there's

2467
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 3: legit excitement and enthusiasm. Our numbers is showing it. Yeah,

2468
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:30,959
Speaker 3: especials that are listening and watching way higher than last year.

2469
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 5: Especially the it's easy to forget about what they did

2470
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 5: in free agency and the fact that they went out

2471
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 5: and signed Milton Williams, who was probably the top free

2472
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:43,360
Speaker 5: agent in the entire class this year. And they added

2473
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:46,600
Speaker 5: Carlton Davis too, as a starting caliber corner on the outside. Like,

2474
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 5: they added the pieces on defense that got the defense operational,

2475
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 5: and now you hope that these picks work out and

2476
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 5: they hit on a couple of these guys on offense,

2477
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 5: and then the offense is suddenly operational as well. So

2478
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 5: there's a lot of reason to be very like I

2479
01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:02,840
Speaker 5: I kind of come down on it. You know, I

2480
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 5: was talking to Barth about this yesterday. I kind of like,

2481
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 5: we're almost afraid to be too excited about what they've

2482
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,200
Speaker 5: done because you don't want to get too worked up

2483
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 5: about it and too you know, pom pom wavy. But

2484
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 5: the point is, I like I've loved their drafts so far,

2485
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 5: like I really have. I think they've done a really

2486
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 5: nice job like that.

2487
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 4: That's the whole thing. It's it's you see the vision,

2488
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:27,639
Speaker 4: you see the method, you know, whereas in the past

2489
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 4: is like it was, okay, you know, we rightfully questioned

2490
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:34,559
Speaker 4: like what are we doing? Like where's the plan?

2491
01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 7: That's right, I mean, but you see.

2492
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 4: Some logic to what's happening here.

2493
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:42,080
Speaker 8: I think there's just momentum building, and it's been building.

2494
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:44,880
Speaker 8: I mean really since the team hired Mike Frabel, who

2495
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:47,719
Speaker 8: is beloved around here, who I think is really seen

2496
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 8: as one of the key pieces of the dynasty and

2497
01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 8: and really representing what people love most about that early

2498
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:59,679
Speaker 8: Patriots dynasty with the first three championships. But between bringing bringing,

2499
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 8: in between the free agency period and now the draft,

2500
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:07,120
Speaker 8: they've really stacked some some strong moves that that I

2501
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 8: think everybody.

2502
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 7: Sees the method of the madness we traded.

2503
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:13,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we we might have a little action.

2504
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 3: We are on the board. We are on the board

2505
01:52:15,320 --> 01:52:15,679
Speaker 3: right now.

2506
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 4: Okay, we are.

2507
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:22,080
Speaker 5: Give me that edge. Give me that edge, Elliot.

2508
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 4: We traded with Seattle to get to one thirty seven.

2509
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 5: All right, give them to me.

2510
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:31,519
Speaker 4: Okay, and we hopped over the forty nine ers.

2511
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:33,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, it looks like they still have that eighth pick

2512
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:34,720
Speaker 7: in the fifth round.

2513
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 4: So we got some action here, pick us in, pick

2514
01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:37,599
Speaker 4: us in.

2515
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:40,920
Speaker 3: All right, the red light is on and okay tell

2516
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 3: me now, you just tell me.

2517
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 4: Who I'm told that. They're on the phone with the

2518
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 4: player right now. So good stuff. Re action at the

2519
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:52,960
Speaker 4: end of the hour here.

2520
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:53,559
Speaker 7: See Mike.

2521
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, the action is the juice.

2522
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:58,559
Speaker 8: Action is the Jews wondering maybe they they maybe they

2523
01:52:58,600 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 8: ditched that.

2524
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:01,719
Speaker 7: Uh that's third fifth pick that they had.

2525
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:03,040
Speaker 4: Pick is in.

2526
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:04,400
Speaker 7: Who's it going to be?

2527
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:05,599
Speaker 3: We don't know.

2528
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 5: Okay, there's the room, we're still waiting.

2529
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 7: Where's no socks? They got them out, they kicked them

2530
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 7: out today.

2531
01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:17,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think this is a I think this will

2532
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:22,800
Speaker 4: be a good harvest this pick. Oh, yes, you know,

2533
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 4: you reap what you sew.

2534
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:25,880
Speaker 7: Then, like in Iowa.

2535
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:31,600
Speaker 3: Maybe oh the tight end from Iowa. Watchy ch wlackie.

2536
01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not saying.

2537
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 3: They traded one for four and two thirty eight for

2538
01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:41,479
Speaker 3: one thirty seven according to the Twitter machine.

2539
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 8: Okay, thirty eight, that's that was their last pick of

2540
01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:53,480
Speaker 8: the draft. Correct, So they ended a little earlier, preparently

2541
01:53:55,520 --> 01:54:01,600
Speaker 8: Old McDonald, I'm gonna guess that I don't know with

2542
01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:02,280
Speaker 8: the player.

2543
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 7: I don't know the player the Freds.

2544
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:06,639
Speaker 3: With Fred's, we're definitely into the point. The only guys

2545
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 3: I know now with skill, guys like the Stanford receiver

2546
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:16,120
Speaker 3: I knew, I O manner Yoh okay.

2547
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:20,599
Speaker 5: The phone call us concluded, well, I have the trade details,

2548
01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:22,679
Speaker 5: but we do not have the player that they pay.

2549
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:29,439
Speaker 4: Well, okay, well, I could be getting wrong information, so

2550
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 4: I don't want to throw it out.

2551
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 7: I hope you're not Fred. That would be oh wow,

2552
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 7: oh wow, oh yeah.

2553
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 5: Oh have a draft. Let's go.

2554
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:46,560
Speaker 4: Heck yeah, okay.

2555
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 7: Heck yeah.

2556
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:50,480
Speaker 4: The pick is in. Uh it's Joshua Farmer.

2557
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:54,400
Speaker 5: Joshua Farmer from Florida State. Elliott Wolf and Mike Rable

2558
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:58,000
Speaker 5: take a bow. You got Deuce his edge rusher. He's

2559
01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:01,440
Speaker 5: happy over there. We're all happy about this one. A

2560
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:04,400
Speaker 5: couple of things that stand out to me about Joshua Farmer.

2561
01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 5: First of all, we talk a lot about arm length

2562
01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:10,400
Speaker 5: in this draft class for a good reason. There at

2563
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:13,640
Speaker 5: the top, Joshua Farmer, I believe I'm pulling it up

2564
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 5: right now, has thirty five inch arms, So this guy

2565
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 5: has a ton of length. Is a developmental prospect, I

2566
01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 5: would say, with great raw measurables six foot three, three

2567
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 5: hundred and five pounds, thirty five inch arms. I wrote

2568
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:32,080
Speaker 5: a plus play strength, snap quickness, good initial get off

2569
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 5: and pop into engagements on the line of scrimmage. So

2570
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 5: this is a guy that can really get up the field,

2571
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 5: separate get off blocks and has a lot of developmental upside.

2572
01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 5: I think there's some technique things that he's going to

2573
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 5: have to improve upon as we progress here. But all

2574
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 5: Deuce and I wanted was somebody that Terrell Williams and

2575
01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 5: Mike Rabel could sink their teeth into and develop and

2576
01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:56,760
Speaker 5: get the most out of potentially down the road. And

2577
01:55:56,880 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 5: Joshua Farmer certainly checks all of those boxes. A guy

2578
01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 5: that's got some real upside to his so.

2579
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:06,440
Speaker 4: On on on the TV Leo ortiz Uh he plays

2580
01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 4: for Flamenco. I think is the one of the top

2581
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 4: Brazilian soccer teams announced the pick from Brazil.

2582
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 7: That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, I like it.

2583
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:20,520
Speaker 8: I mean it's looked still some uncertainty with Christian Barmore

2584
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 8: as well, and you know, adding in another layer of this.

2585
01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:25,360
Speaker 8: I don't know if he's necessarily you know, you're gonna

2586
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:28,440
Speaker 8: play pure edge. Seems to me a little bit more

2587
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 8: like an interior.

2588
01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:31,200
Speaker 3: Guy I listened as a defensive tackle.

2589
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:33,760
Speaker 8: Yeah so, but but even still, I think this is,

2590
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:36,440
Speaker 8: you know, just getting some youth, getting, as Evan said,

2591
01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:38,960
Speaker 8: a piece of you know, raw guy that that they can.

2592
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 4: I like our draft room, they're not all like, well

2593
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:46,280
Speaker 4: they already did it. Now there's first stop it.

2594
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 3: On the first pick, they all got up because we

2595
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:50,640
Speaker 3: saw no socks. He was part of it. Yeah, they

2596
01:56:50,680 --> 01:56:52,720
Speaker 3: all got up and they were all shaking hands and

2597
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:53,560
Speaker 3: hugging and stuff.

2598
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:55,840
Speaker 7: I was like, we've just produced daft up.

2599
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,600
Speaker 3: And no, no, no, no, he was there in the background.

2600
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:02,520
Speaker 4: So everybody is wearing these orange T shirts and all

2601
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:06,320
Speaker 4: the draft rooms it says your light lives on in

2602
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 4: all of us. And then it's the initial CCT under it.

2603
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:13,400
Speaker 4: So but this is like league wide, like I see it.

2604
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Speaker 4: It's in all the draft rooms. So I don't know

2605
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Speaker 4: who or what CCT is. I don't know.

2606
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Speaker 3: So just to let everybody know, the Patriots still have

2607
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Speaker 3: the eighth pick and the fifth round. Yeah, they're coming up,

2608
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:26,640
Speaker 3: so we'll coming back up. Can we make an executive decision?

2609
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Speaker 3: We'll hang on to this pick, Freddie. Yeah, I know

2610
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Speaker 3: we said we would be done at too, but we

2611
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Speaker 3: should probably stick around. We got one and then it's

2612
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:33,800
Speaker 3: to the top of the fifth round and then you

2613
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2614
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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I think they still have thirty five in

2615
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Speaker 8: this round.

2616
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Speaker 7: So it is I mean, it's a little bit of

2617
01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:42,600
Speaker 7: it the whole sixth.

2618
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Speaker 4: So in that case, let's take a break, Matt. We'll

2619
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Speaker 4: come back. We will. It's one fifty seven, but we're

2620
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Speaker 4: going to stick around until that that other pick in

2621
01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:56,000
Speaker 4: the fifth round for the Patriots, but they've added Joshua Farmer.

2622
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2623
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Speaker 4: You got your defense a little bit.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you're always gonna have to update the breaks in

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Speaker 7: the time.

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Speaker 3: Like one hundred grand, I was thinking that gets you

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Speaker 3: back to where you need to, you know, like people

2720
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Speaker 3: say that if I just had like a million dollars,

2721
02:02:58,480 --> 02:03:02,080
Speaker 3: just like one hundred grand before taxes or after taxes, after.

2722
02:03:01,880 --> 02:03:04,800
Speaker 7: Taxes, I could get like one get some.

2723
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Speaker 3: Of the bad debt out of the way, you know,

2724
02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:10,040
Speaker 3: and I could probably just ride out the string to graduation,

2725
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Speaker 3: to retirement.

2726
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Speaker 7: When you're in Florida.

2727
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Speaker 3: Soak it up in the hotel.

2728
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:19,760
Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's it. Okay, So Joshua the latest.

2729
02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:20,480
Speaker 3: Mister Kraft.

2730
02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:23,760
Speaker 4: The fourth round has ended. We're now in the fifth round.

2731
02:03:23,800 --> 02:03:30,360
Speaker 4: The Patriots are at and now we're at pick.

2732
02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:34,520
Speaker 3: If Fred. Here's your thing with the T shirts.

2733
02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:37,560
Speaker 4: So what does it mean though, that's a that's a

2734
02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:39,959
Speaker 4: person something from Nolins.

2735
02:03:40,920 --> 02:03:43,240
Speaker 3: I think it's all over the league. Yeah, that's Indy.

2736
02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:45,200
Speaker 7: It's out for Shudure.

2737
02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:47,720
Speaker 4: So maybe somehow they stacked.

2738
02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:49,120
Speaker 3: Their board vertically and horizontally.

2739
02:03:49,160 --> 02:03:53,280
Speaker 4: There Pete Carroll in the shirt. So maybe somebody who

2740
02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:57,640
Speaker 4: is listening to the broadcast can tell us what it means.

2741
02:03:57,720 --> 02:03:59,800
Speaker 4: We have is CCT we would know.

2742
02:04:02,400 --> 02:04:04,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, they had his name up briefly the picture of

2743
02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:06,000
Speaker 8: Oh I per see that it was.

2744
02:04:06,080 --> 02:04:07,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not sure who he was though.

2745
02:04:07,640 --> 02:04:13,640
Speaker 4: Okay, it's very nice to day there in Green Bay. So,

2746
02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:16,240
Speaker 4: as I said, the fourth round is over, we're into

2747
02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:19,080
Speaker 4: the fifth round now. The pick is in for the

2748
02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:22,600
Speaker 4: Panthers at one forty The Patriots are sitting at one

2749
02:04:22,760 --> 02:04:26,080
Speaker 4: forty six. So it's just a matter of time now

2750
02:04:26,160 --> 02:04:30,720
Speaker 4: before we have our our second, our third pick of the.

2751
02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:34,160
Speaker 3: Two picks in the fifth second already, Yeah, third of

2752
02:04:34,160 --> 02:04:35,280
Speaker 3: the third pick of this.

2753
02:04:35,240 --> 02:04:38,000
Speaker 5: So they have one forty six in one seventy one

2754
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:40,920
Speaker 5: in the fifth round, and then two twenty round out

2755
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:41,400
Speaker 5: the draft.

2756
02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:45,120
Speaker 4: So we've picked a safety, we've picked a defensive tackle

2757
02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:47,800
Speaker 4: or defensive line.

2758
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:49,720
Speaker 7: I think he's I think he's just an interior.

2759
02:04:49,960 --> 02:04:54,600
Speaker 4: So Elliott talked about going defense on Day three so far.

2760
02:04:55,320 --> 02:04:57,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, look, look, I will be consistent, like

2761
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Speaker 8: I do, like that they draft the defense. But again,

2762
02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:02,280
Speaker 8: like my concerns is pass rush and not that you're

2763
02:05:02,320 --> 02:05:05,040
Speaker 8: going to have elite pass rushers here as we get

2764
02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:08,600
Speaker 8: into the fifth round, it's not really it doesn't matter

2765
02:05:08,680 --> 02:05:11,920
Speaker 8: now to it doesn't matter, probably probably missed your run though,

2766
02:05:11,920 --> 02:05:13,800
Speaker 8: because you guys, you and haven't seen to be talking

2767
02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:15,120
Speaker 8: about a different edge guy.

2768
02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:17,600
Speaker 3: They're in the middle of that fourth round. Every pitch scene,

2769
02:05:18,120 --> 02:05:20,320
Speaker 3: you know, look, but they trade it so.

2770
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Speaker 7: Maybe you know, if they're gotten a little bit.

2771
02:05:22,440 --> 02:05:24,360
Speaker 3: More aggressive, they're going to trade it up a little higher.

2772
02:05:24,360 --> 02:05:24,760
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2773
02:05:25,120 --> 02:05:28,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean he's certainly not a pure edge

2774
02:05:28,200 --> 02:05:30,720
Speaker 5: guy like this isn't a screamer off the edge, you know,

2775
02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:33,600
Speaker 5: two point stance or anything like that kind of guy.

2776
02:05:33,640 --> 02:05:36,080
Speaker 5: But I do think he's disruptive, and he uses his

2777
02:05:36,160 --> 02:05:39,440
Speaker 5: length well to just separate from blocks and has good

2778
02:05:39,520 --> 02:05:42,040
Speaker 5: upper body twitch and strength to be able to shed

2779
02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:44,600
Speaker 5: and do those types of things on the interior. And

2780
02:05:44,640 --> 02:05:46,920
Speaker 5: they they are going to be a four down defense.

2781
02:05:46,920 --> 02:05:49,240
Speaker 5: They're going to play a lot of traditional four to

2782
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Speaker 5: three if you want to call it that, and they're

2783
02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:53,160
Speaker 5: gonna need lineman that can play with their hand in

2784
02:05:53,160 --> 02:05:56,200
Speaker 5: the dirt, and that's certainly what Farmer is. I think

2785
02:05:56,200 --> 02:05:58,680
Speaker 5: he can play some end as well as play some

2786
02:05:58,840 --> 02:06:02,440
Speaker 5: defensive tackle. You'll play some three technique. But I like

2787
02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:05,520
Speaker 5: his versatility up and down the line of scrimmage a lot,

2788
02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:07,360
Speaker 5: just not He's not going to be all the way

2789
02:06:07,400 --> 02:06:09,600
Speaker 5: outside the tackle, you know, rushing off the edge. That's

2790
02:06:09,640 --> 02:06:10,400
Speaker 5: not going to be his game.

2791
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:13,000
Speaker 4: Let's go to the phones while we wait for the

2792
02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:17,600
Speaker 4: Patriots pick. Here in the fifth round. Q is in Atlanta.

2793
02:06:17,760 --> 02:06:18,320
Speaker 4: What's up? Q?

2794
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:22,440
Speaker 15: Hey, I got some caller and caller smoke.

2795
02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:26,640
Speaker 22: Okay, nice Christian in LA. But this is this is

2796
02:06:26,680 --> 02:06:30,920
Speaker 22: more for all the Twitter gms and everyone that, oh,

2797
02:06:31,000 --> 02:06:33,080
Speaker 22: this player can't do this and this player can't do that.

2798
02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:36,040
Speaker 15: Before they even hit the field, guys, just please stop it.

2799
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Speaker 15: You guys are not gms, you're not coaches, you don't

2800
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Speaker 15: talk to scouts. Those guys would stop it at least

2801
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Speaker 15: like these guys get on the field seat, but they

2802
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Speaker 15: can do first and then secondly, what do you think

2803
02:06:48,200 --> 02:06:49,800
Speaker 15: that we should do at kicker? I don't know if

2804
02:06:49,840 --> 02:06:52,000
Speaker 15: you guys remember with Mike Rabel kind of hinted that

2805
02:06:52,280 --> 02:06:54,120
Speaker 15: he's had kind of bad LUCKI kickers.

2806
02:06:54,160 --> 02:06:55,040
Speaker 23: Do you think they.

2807
02:06:54,920 --> 02:06:57,919
Speaker 15: Go with a kicker today if one of them goes undrafted,

2808
02:06:57,960 --> 02:06:59,120
Speaker 15: or do you think they go to night game?

2809
02:06:59,200 --> 02:06:59,600
Speaker 12: Thank god?

2810
02:06:59,720 --> 02:07:02,760
Speaker 4: Okay, kicker. It's definitely in need right.

2811
02:07:02,680 --> 02:07:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, they'll definitely add one to the roster. I

2812
02:07:06,200 --> 02:07:08,360
Speaker 3: don't know if they'll draft one or if they just

2813
02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:11,520
Speaker 3: signed one, but they're not gonna go with just the

2814
02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:13,520
Speaker 3: kid that finished the season on the practice.

2815
02:07:14,800 --> 02:07:18,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, there are some draftable kickers in this in this draft,

2816
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:22,800
Speaker 5: better called Miami, better call sauls is out there, Ben Saul's,

2817
02:07:23,120 --> 02:07:27,560
Speaker 5: Andre Borgalis is from Miami, Ryan Fitzgerald from Florida State

2818
02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:30,520
Speaker 5: or the three guys that I think most people believe

2819
02:07:30,520 --> 02:07:33,920
Speaker 5: are draftable. And maybe with that seventh round pick, you know,

2820
02:07:33,920 --> 02:07:36,640
Speaker 5: they they traded to thirty eight, their very last seventh

2821
02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:39,440
Speaker 5: round pick, but they held on. They still currently have

2822
02:07:39,480 --> 02:07:42,040
Speaker 5: two twenty, so you wonder if that pick might be

2823
02:07:42,200 --> 02:07:45,200
Speaker 5: or marked for one of those kickers to take one

2824
02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:48,080
Speaker 5: of those guys. But Borgalis is considered the best kicker

2825
02:07:48,080 --> 02:07:51,200
Speaker 5: in the draft. He's the most consistent within fifty yards.

2826
02:07:51,960 --> 02:07:55,520
Speaker 5: But he's he's might might go a little bit earlier

2827
02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:57,560
Speaker 5: than that. Like the fifth round tends to be a

2828
02:07:57,560 --> 02:08:02,000
Speaker 5: specialist round, and I could see him coming soon. But Fitzgerald,

2829
02:08:02,120 --> 02:08:04,720
Speaker 5: all three of these guys, they worked out all three

2830
02:08:04,760 --> 02:08:07,640
Speaker 5: of them, so they've showed some interest in all the kickers.

2831
02:08:07,680 --> 02:08:08,760
Speaker 7: I believe they'll draft one.

2832
02:08:09,480 --> 02:08:11,840
Speaker 8: Just listening to Jeremy Springer a couple of weeks ago,

2833
02:08:12,080 --> 02:08:14,280
Speaker 8: it seems like they're taking this very seriously, trying to

2834
02:08:14,320 --> 02:08:17,280
Speaker 8: find the next kicker, trying to find some stability long

2835
02:08:17,360 --> 02:08:19,560
Speaker 8: termam at that position, which is something they haven't had.

2836
02:08:19,960 --> 02:08:21,360
Speaker 8: I guess, I mean, I guess Nick Folk was here

2837
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:23,920
Speaker 8: and that was fairly consistent. Not here that long, but

2838
02:08:24,400 --> 02:08:26,360
Speaker 8: he was a consistent kicker for him. But I think

2839
02:08:26,400 --> 02:08:30,240
Speaker 8: it's a goal of this organization to get some stability

2840
02:08:30,240 --> 02:08:33,720
Speaker 8: back in that position. They could wait till undrafted and

2841
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:35,760
Speaker 8: sign one of these guys, but I think how they've

2842
02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:36,840
Speaker 8: talked about it.

2843
02:08:36,560 --> 02:08:39,880
Speaker 7: It seems like they might see a guy want him and.

2844
02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:42,920
Speaker 4: Just tim and California fills us in on the shirts.

2845
02:08:43,200 --> 02:08:46,920
Speaker 4: The Colts on Saturday honored CHORL. Turpining, the late wife

2846
02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:49,960
Speaker 4: of Colts director of college Scouting Matt Turpining, by having

2847
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:52,760
Speaker 4: staff in their draft room wear shirts reading your Light

2848
02:08:53,160 --> 02:08:57,520
Speaker 4: Lives Lives in on all of us during the fifth

2849
02:08:57,600 --> 02:09:00,640
Speaker 4: round of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft. She died

2850
02:09:00,720 --> 02:09:04,240
Speaker 4: on April twelfth in Louisville while attending a volleyball tournament

2851
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:07,920
Speaker 4: with her daughters. Those looking to honor Turpening's legacy can

2852
02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:12,240
Speaker 4: donate to the Hamilton County Human Society. You can read

2853
02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:15,320
Speaker 4: her a bit. Okay, so there's links, but that's the

2854
02:09:15,480 --> 02:09:16,640
Speaker 4: story behind the shirts.

2855
02:09:16,880 --> 02:09:17,440
Speaker 3: That's awful.

2856
02:09:17,560 --> 02:09:18,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean you notice as soon as the

2857
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:21,440
Speaker 8: fifth round started, it seemed like teams started putting those

2858
02:09:21,440 --> 02:09:21,800
Speaker 8: shirts on.

2859
02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:28,200
Speaker 4: Yep. Cynthia says, we can get the kicker from the

2860
02:09:28,280 --> 02:09:29,960
Speaker 4: UFL ask barth.

2861
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:34,080
Speaker 5: I'll leave the kickers in the UFL.

2862
02:09:34,680 --> 02:09:34,880
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2863
02:09:34,880 --> 02:09:37,760
Speaker 3: I'm not going to get into the individual one, but

2864
02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:40,560
Speaker 3: I would just say in terms of draft not draft.

2865
02:09:40,800 --> 02:09:44,840
Speaker 3: If there's one guy that they've identified this is the

2866
02:09:44,880 --> 02:09:47,480
Speaker 3: guy we have to have, then draft them. My guess

2867
02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:51,720
Speaker 3: is that's not the case, and you just you know,

2868
02:09:51,960 --> 02:09:55,520
Speaker 3: figure out who's left and then and be aggressive and

2869
02:09:55,560 --> 02:09:56,720
Speaker 3: sign one.

2870
02:09:56,680 --> 02:09:58,480
Speaker 7: Offer the opportunity to compete.

2871
02:09:58,720 --> 02:10:02,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I asked me Springer when we talked to him, Uh,

2872
02:10:02,240 --> 02:10:04,680
Speaker 5: when was that a couple of months ago now? And

2873
02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:08,000
Speaker 5: I said, do you guys see draftable kickers? You know,

2874
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:10,640
Speaker 5: do you have draftable grades on any kickers? And uh,

2875
02:10:10,720 --> 02:10:13,680
Speaker 5: he said, you know, draftable and undrafted. And he made

2876
02:10:13,720 --> 02:10:16,800
Speaker 5: a point to mention that they've also been looking at

2877
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:19,440
Speaker 5: guys that they project as you know, rookie free agents

2878
02:10:19,560 --> 02:10:22,080
Speaker 5: as well. So I think they are probably He made

2879
02:10:22,120 --> 02:10:24,360
Speaker 5: it sound like they're comfortable going either way, you know,

2880
02:10:24,400 --> 02:10:25,920
Speaker 5: if they have to if it ends up being a

2881
02:10:26,000 --> 02:10:27,960
Speaker 5: ud FA, they they're prepared for that.

2882
02:10:28,680 --> 02:10:28,920
Speaker 4: Yep.

2883
02:10:29,720 --> 02:10:31,800
Speaker 3: Good either way. They if they like one enough to

2884
02:10:31,880 --> 02:10:34,760
Speaker 3: draft them, then draft them. Don't don't leave it for chance.

2885
02:10:34,760 --> 02:10:36,720
Speaker 8: It's the fifth round the spot, isn't it isn't there

2886
02:10:36,720 --> 02:10:38,760
Speaker 8: like a history of drafting kickers in the fifth round.

2887
02:10:39,760 --> 02:10:43,760
Speaker 5: Sam Howell got traded. Cool Sam Howel and the Seahawks.

2888
02:10:44,040 --> 02:10:45,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was with Seattle.

2889
02:10:45,680 --> 02:10:47,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, now he's in Minnesota.

2890
02:10:48,080 --> 02:10:51,720
Speaker 3: Okay, oh that makes sense for both both teams. That

2891
02:10:51,960 --> 02:10:53,480
Speaker 3: might be quite a bit of a glut.

2892
02:10:53,720 --> 02:10:56,120
Speaker 8: Good friends with Drake may right, and maybe we have

2893
02:10:56,200 --> 02:10:58,400
Speaker 8: they're shoint practices this year at Minnesota.

2894
02:10:57,920 --> 02:11:00,320
Speaker 3: And something that's look at that they have, you have

2895
02:11:00,920 --> 02:11:04,640
Speaker 3: something to so they have that friends. So Drake, you

2896
02:11:04,760 --> 02:11:10,600
Speaker 3: know him, right, they're like best best friends. Your banner

2897
02:11:10,640 --> 02:11:12,920
Speaker 3: is right next to mine at the stadium.

2898
02:11:12,920 --> 02:11:14,920
Speaker 5: Like like vacation together. Tight.

2899
02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:16,720
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah really yeah that close.

2900
02:11:16,840 --> 02:11:23,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's see. Walter R. Walker writes in from Berkshire County. Uh,

2901
02:11:23,880 --> 02:11:26,760
Speaker 4: the skill set of these draft picks are strikingly different

2902
02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:30,960
Speaker 4: than previous years. I'm excited Rabel really understood that the

2903
02:11:31,040 --> 02:11:34,280
Speaker 4: offense needed the first four picks. Henderson and Williams are

2904
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:39,120
Speaker 4: surely electric. Offensive line improves vastly. McDaniels is back. This

2905
02:11:39,240 --> 02:11:42,320
Speaker 4: is most certainly an LFG moment for Patriots Nation.

2906
02:11:43,400 --> 02:11:43,520
Speaker 5: Uh.

2907
02:11:43,640 --> 02:11:46,240
Speaker 4: And by the way, this whole Sanders saga is so interesting.

2908
02:11:46,280 --> 02:11:48,879
Speaker 4: I can't help myself. It started as a humbling experience

2909
02:11:48,880 --> 02:11:51,560
Speaker 4: and now it's turning into this. It's funny and terrible

2910
02:11:51,840 --> 02:11:54,440
Speaker 4: drama at its fine at so many layers, so much drama.

2911
02:11:54,760 --> 02:11:58,320
Speaker 4: Never seen anything like this, I agree, I haven't either.

2912
02:11:58,320 --> 02:12:00,880
Speaker 8: I mean, geez, we're in the fifth round now, which

2913
02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:04,400
Speaker 8: just makes you think that's unprecedented. Yeah, there's it's not

2914
02:12:04,480 --> 02:12:06,600
Speaker 8: just about the player, you know, on the field, what

2915
02:12:06,640 --> 02:12:07,480
Speaker 8: he did.

2916
02:12:09,240 --> 02:12:12,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, hey, is that Germany?

2917
02:12:12,680 --> 02:12:12,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2918
02:12:13,160 --> 02:12:14,960
Speaker 7: Is that just now than.

2919
02:12:17,200 --> 02:12:17,640
Speaker 3: Madrid?

2920
02:12:17,880 --> 02:12:21,880
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, very different. That's right. The Dolphins are getting rid.

2921
02:12:22,040 --> 02:12:25,680
Speaker 4: I haven't announced who they're playing yet, right, No.

2922
02:12:25,280 --> 02:12:28,080
Speaker 8: No, no, So that's the schedule that they announce. The

2923
02:12:28,080 --> 02:12:29,520
Speaker 8: schedule's gonna come out with what May fourteenth?

2924
02:12:29,520 --> 02:12:31,560
Speaker 4: I think was that what the day was, So that's

2925
02:12:31,560 --> 02:12:33,320
Speaker 4: what they're saying. Yeah, yeah, good.

2926
02:12:34,960 --> 02:12:36,839
Speaker 3: Dolphins have another guy named Jordan Phillips.

2927
02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:39,640
Speaker 5: At one point, there's another Jordan Phillers, maybe on the

2928
02:12:39,640 --> 02:12:40,520
Speaker 5: Bills at least twice.

2929
02:12:40,560 --> 02:12:41,960
Speaker 3: I think he was on the I thought he was

2930
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:42,640
Speaker 3: on the Dolphins.

2931
02:12:43,040 --> 02:12:45,080
Speaker 7: He might have been a cup of coffee.

2932
02:12:45,600 --> 02:12:49,440
Speaker 4: So Miami's pick at one forty three, Patriots is sitting

2933
02:12:49,480 --> 02:12:53,560
Speaker 4: at one forty six, So we're getting closer.

2934
02:12:53,800 --> 02:12:56,040
Speaker 7: Just a few picks. Uh, yeah, he was. He was

2935
02:12:56,080 --> 02:12:57,520
Speaker 7: one of my other one of my big board guys,

2936
02:12:57,520 --> 02:12:58,360
Speaker 7: what's the same, same kind.

2937
02:12:58,240 --> 02:12:59,440
Speaker 3: Of started his career in Miami.

2938
02:12:59,560 --> 02:13:05,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I liked I could see them. Farmer and Phillips

2939
02:13:05,200 --> 02:13:08,080
Speaker 5: are are a little similar. Farmers longer, I think that

2940
02:13:08,080 --> 02:13:10,680
Speaker 5: that's that's sort of what tipped me towards him a

2941
02:13:10,720 --> 02:13:14,160
Speaker 5: little bit, has a little bit more length and ability

2942
02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:16,880
Speaker 5: to get off blocks. As a result, I like both

2943
02:13:16,920 --> 02:13:18,640
Speaker 5: of them, though. I thought Phillips was a fun player

2944
02:13:18,680 --> 02:13:19,320
Speaker 5: to watch too.

2945
02:13:19,600 --> 02:13:24,400
Speaker 4: Trade Alert Walter in Ukraine. When was the last draft

2946
02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:27,400
Speaker 4: results for the Patriots that we were this excited about.

2947
02:13:27,680 --> 02:13:29,480
Speaker 3: I don't really time.

2948
02:13:29,600 --> 02:13:32,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, not since I started covering the team, Like you

2949
02:13:32,520 --> 02:13:36,440
Speaker 5: have to go back to when Belichick was Yeah, when

2950
02:13:36,440 --> 02:13:37,160
Speaker 5: he was on a roll.

2951
02:13:37,240 --> 02:13:39,920
Speaker 3: You know, I was pretty I was pretty first round

2952
02:13:40,000 --> 02:13:42,800
Speaker 3: picks Yeah, yeah, that might be.

2953
02:13:42,720 --> 02:13:44,720
Speaker 8: One Jones and high Tower. I mean, you really just

2954
02:13:46,160 --> 02:13:48,400
Speaker 8: remade the front of the defense with that first round

2955
02:13:48,440 --> 02:13:49,000
Speaker 8: of that draft.

2956
02:13:50,440 --> 02:13:53,400
Speaker 4: Ryan and Colorado wants to know what Jared being a

2957
02:13:53,400 --> 02:13:55,760
Speaker 4: physical freak, any chance he could play some full back

2958
02:13:55,920 --> 02:13:57,400
Speaker 4: if he loses the center battle.

2959
02:13:58,280 --> 02:14:01,920
Speaker 5: Maybe yeah, maybe some unbalanced line, you know, six sixth

2960
02:14:01,920 --> 02:14:05,600
Speaker 5: offensive lineman. No, no as any experience, but running out

2961
02:14:05,600 --> 02:14:08,960
Speaker 5: of the backfield. But I could see him, see him

2962
02:14:08,960 --> 02:14:11,160
Speaker 5: playing on the end of the line as a jumpo tight.

2963
02:14:11,680 --> 02:14:12,800
Speaker 7: I'm really intrigued by him.

2964
02:14:12,800 --> 02:14:14,880
Speaker 8: Like he wasn't a guy I spent much time, you know,

2965
02:14:15,120 --> 02:14:16,680
Speaker 8: in passing looked at, you know.

2966
02:14:16,720 --> 02:14:17,440
Speaker 7: Just his blurbs.

2967
02:14:17,440 --> 02:14:20,560
Speaker 8: But just like I said at the top, the combination

2968
02:14:20,640 --> 02:14:23,560
Speaker 8: of size and athleticism just really intriguing. You're only scratching

2969
02:14:23,640 --> 02:14:26,080
Speaker 8: the surface one year starter. You don't even know what

2970
02:14:26,200 --> 02:14:28,680
Speaker 8: he possibly could be, but he has all the traits

2971
02:14:28,680 --> 02:14:30,640
Speaker 8: that you're looking for at that position.

2972
02:14:30,960 --> 02:14:33,720
Speaker 7: And again to just stress the size of it, like there's.

2973
02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:36,880
Speaker 8: So many monstrous interior players when we talk all the

2974
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:39,120
Speaker 8: time about the guys that like whole strange struggle with,

2975
02:14:40,760 --> 02:14:42,800
Speaker 8: you know, to have that kind of size in the middle,

2976
02:14:43,160 --> 02:14:45,920
Speaker 8: I think would be a real, real benefit for the offense.

2977
02:14:46,280 --> 02:14:48,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get to the phones.

2978
02:14:49,400 --> 02:14:53,560
Speaker 3: We'll go to hold place on the walk again. That

2979
02:14:53,600 --> 02:14:59,920
Speaker 3: Cleveland Brown's trade at one overall to select anyone.

2980
02:15:03,680 --> 02:15:07,800
Speaker 4: So the Browns did, in fact finally get Schador Sanders.

2981
02:15:07,920 --> 02:15:11,240
Speaker 5: So they took Dylan Gabriel and Shadoor Sander. They took Dylan,

2982
02:15:11,560 --> 02:15:14,960
Speaker 5: so they took Dylan Gable first when most people had

2983
02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:18,720
Speaker 5: Shador as the better prospect right than Dylan Gabriel. So

2984
02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:22,640
Speaker 5: now they took two backup quarterbacks essentially. But good for

2985
02:15:23,240 --> 02:15:23,880
Speaker 5: good good thing.

2986
02:15:23,960 --> 02:15:26,280
Speaker 3: I'm glad you got drafted, and I'm glad we can

2987
02:15:26,320 --> 02:15:31,520
Speaker 3: finally stop. But uh, it is kind of interesting, like

2988
02:15:31,960 --> 02:15:34,320
Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel. If they didn't take Dylan Gabriel, I'd say, wow,

2989
02:15:34,360 --> 02:15:37,680
Speaker 3: Cleveland really worked this perfection. You got a guy that

2990
02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:39,480
Speaker 3: someone thought they could have taken it with the second

2991
02:15:39,480 --> 02:15:42,120
Speaker 3: pick of the draft in the fifth round. Yeah, so

2992
02:15:42,160 --> 02:15:44,800
Speaker 3: it sounds like double dip backup quarterback.

2993
02:15:45,400 --> 02:15:47,440
Speaker 8: It's I mean, it's fascinating, like you know, he's the

2994
02:15:47,440 --> 02:15:49,800
Speaker 8: third string behind another rookie. Like I mean, you guys

2995
02:15:49,840 --> 02:15:51,560
Speaker 8: know how these things like reps are divvied up a

2996
02:15:51,560 --> 02:15:53,000
Speaker 8: certain way like all these.

2997
02:15:53,000 --> 02:15:55,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's not quite as Uh, he didn't

2998
02:15:55,920 --> 02:15:57,520
Speaker 5: have quite as big of a fault, but it reminds

2999
02:15:57,560 --> 02:15:59,680
Speaker 5: me of Malik Willis, Like and that's why I pulled

3000
02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:02,200
Speaker 5: it up. But Blake will Willis went in the third round.

3001
02:16:02,200 --> 02:16:04,560
Speaker 5: He went eighty sixth overall. But there was a ton

3002
02:16:04,600 --> 02:16:06,920
Speaker 5: of talk that Malik Willison in twenty twenty two is

3003
02:16:06,920 --> 02:16:08,960
Speaker 5: gonna go number one overall in the draft, and he

3004
02:16:09,040 --> 02:16:10,920
Speaker 5: ended up falling all the way to the third round.

3005
02:16:11,440 --> 02:16:14,000
Speaker 5: It's very similar to me in terms of the hype

3006
02:16:14,000 --> 02:16:16,600
Speaker 5: from the media of what they everyone thought the player

3007
02:16:16,720 --> 02:16:18,760
Speaker 5: was going to be and then where the player ended

3008
02:16:18,800 --> 02:16:22,040
Speaker 5: up actually going is similar to me to Malik but

3009
02:16:22,680 --> 02:16:23,920
Speaker 5: even later for Shaudor.

3010
02:16:24,280 --> 02:16:27,120
Speaker 3: Also, the fact that they traded to get into the

3011
02:16:27,120 --> 02:16:28,480
Speaker 3: spot is interesting to me.

3012
02:16:29,360 --> 02:16:34,040
Speaker 8: Cleveland maybe they thought, now you have to have them.

3013
02:16:34,080 --> 02:16:34,879
Speaker 5: It's going to take them.

3014
02:16:35,440 --> 02:16:37,440
Speaker 3: You had all those chances to take and you were

3015
02:16:37,520 --> 02:16:44,760
Speaker 3: telling everybody right he didn't care. Yeah, it's it's an

3016
02:16:44,800 --> 02:16:46,760
Speaker 3: interesting trade for me. Hmm.

3017
02:16:47,640 --> 02:16:50,200
Speaker 4: Okay, So Cleveland takes Shador Sanders.

3018
02:16:50,280 --> 02:16:52,360
Speaker 7: I mean, I can't wait to see what he has

3019
02:16:52,400 --> 02:16:53,959
Speaker 7: to say, how they roll them out.

3020
02:16:54,280 --> 02:16:57,360
Speaker 5: I'm not ruling out that Shador goes on and has

3021
02:16:57,360 --> 02:17:01,800
Speaker 5: a serviceable NFL career as a starter. I know, going

3022
02:17:01,840 --> 02:17:04,520
Speaker 5: into fifth round makes it sound like there's no chance

3023
02:17:04,520 --> 02:17:07,480
Speaker 5: of that happening, because its very seldom does. But I

3024
02:17:07,800 --> 02:17:10,440
Speaker 5: don't rule it out with him that he could actually

3025
02:17:10,520 --> 02:17:13,160
Speaker 5: end up going to have having a decent career.

3026
02:17:13,640 --> 02:17:15,640
Speaker 7: And Who's who's the Browns quarterback right now?

3027
02:17:16,040 --> 02:17:19,800
Speaker 3: Kenny Picknick, Joe Flacco, Kenny pick At, Dylan Gabriel, and

3028
02:17:19,800 --> 02:17:27,960
Speaker 3: Shedas Sanders is their depth chart right? So I don't know.

3029
02:17:28,240 --> 02:17:30,119
Speaker 3: I think I think it's it's interesting.

3030
02:17:31,000 --> 02:17:32,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's and it's just kind of starting

3031
02:17:32,959 --> 02:17:35,039
Speaker 8: like how this has all started off. I'm just I'm

3032
02:17:35,080 --> 02:17:39,080
Speaker 8: so curious to watch Howard unfolds me knowing last year

3033
02:17:39,440 --> 02:17:42,000
Speaker 8: not entirely same situation, but just what we talked about

3034
02:17:42,040 --> 02:17:43,840
Speaker 8: with Drake May and Joe Milton in the same building,

3035
02:17:43,879 --> 02:17:45,680
Speaker 8: in the same draft class, and I just know.

3036
02:17:45,720 --> 02:17:49,560
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh's like lost an opportunity. I think you had the

3037
02:17:49,560 --> 02:17:52,080
Speaker 3: best of both worlds. You can get that guy who

3038
02:17:52,160 --> 02:17:54,879
Speaker 3: might turn out to be something developmental wise without having

3039
02:17:54,920 --> 02:17:58,760
Speaker 3: to use a significant pick. I just feel like that

3040
02:17:58,840 --> 02:17:59,840
Speaker 3: was a lost opportunity.

3041
02:18:00,160 --> 02:18:02,480
Speaker 4: Let's go to the podium and here the reaction, uh

3042
02:18:03,080 --> 02:18:04,480
Speaker 4: to the announcement.

3043
02:18:04,440 --> 02:18:08,840
Speaker 1: Right on the clock one they passed on Shador one, two, three, four, five,

3044
02:18:08,920 --> 02:18:12,680
Speaker 1: six times and including the leading and Annolly Gabriel last

3045
02:18:12,760 --> 02:18:18,600
Speaker 1: night ninety four to complete the Heisman Trophy finalist quartet

3046
02:18:18,640 --> 02:18:21,440
Speaker 1: from Manhattan being drafted in this draft the other.

3047
02:18:22,640 --> 02:18:28,879
Speaker 4: So they said reaction, the reaction in.

3048
02:18:28,840 --> 02:18:30,320
Speaker 2: The draft Hall says.

3049
02:18:30,040 --> 02:18:31,760
Speaker 4: It all figure car.

3050
02:18:32,160 --> 02:18:34,800
Speaker 3: They didn't know, they didn't know who was gonna.

3051
02:18:34,520 --> 02:18:36,760
Speaker 19: Do it, and by we, I'm I'm in putting every

3052
02:18:36,800 --> 02:18:40,119
Speaker 19: human on the screen, every single person whos been watching

3053
02:18:40,120 --> 02:18:47,840
Speaker 19: the draft cover which anyone else's grawership around draft well.

3054
02:18:49,200 --> 02:18:49,480
Speaker 6: Happen.

3055
02:18:49,560 --> 02:18:51,560
Speaker 4: Maybe if you're a fan, you think you just got

3056
02:18:51,560 --> 02:18:52,680
Speaker 4: the steal of the draft.

3057
02:18:52,760 --> 02:18:53,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can hear.

3058
02:18:54,040 --> 02:18:58,320
Speaker 4: You know, like, based on the pre draft analysis, you

3059
02:18:58,360 --> 02:19:01,120
Speaker 4: can make that case very easily that this was the

3060
02:19:01,200 --> 02:19:03,920
Speaker 4: absolute steal of the draft.

3061
02:19:04,400 --> 02:19:06,680
Speaker 7: I'm sure there's interestincs that that that he is.

3062
02:19:07,080 --> 02:19:09,400
Speaker 5: I I it's a it's a fair point. Like, I

3063
02:19:09,800 --> 02:19:13,959
Speaker 5: definitely feel like he was docking multiple rounds from whatever

3064
02:19:14,000 --> 02:19:16,560
Speaker 5: happened in the pre draft process from January to now,

3065
02:19:16,640 --> 02:19:18,320
Speaker 5: you know, whether it was the interviews, whether it was

3066
02:19:18,400 --> 02:19:21,520
Speaker 5: Dion wh whatever it was, I think it docked him

3067
02:19:21,520 --> 02:19:24,360
Speaker 5: at least a couple of rounds easily. So you might

3068
02:19:24,400 --> 02:19:27,160
Speaker 5: feel like, would you feel a lot different as a

3069
02:19:27,200 --> 02:19:29,360
Speaker 5: Browns fan? You know, if you drafted him in the

3070
02:19:29,400 --> 02:19:32,280
Speaker 5: second or third round and then the fifth probably and

3071
02:19:32,320 --> 02:19:34,200
Speaker 5: if you think that he probably should have gone in

3072
02:19:34,200 --> 02:19:36,080
Speaker 5: the second or third round instead, then you feel like

3073
02:19:36,120 --> 02:19:36,960
Speaker 5: you might have gotten a guy.

3074
02:19:37,000 --> 02:19:38,920
Speaker 4: Well. The only thing I'd be upset now if I

3075
02:19:38,959 --> 02:19:40,840
Speaker 4: was a Browns fan is well, we could have had

3076
02:19:40,879 --> 02:19:44,120
Speaker 4: another player instead of Gabriel instead of Games, right, the

3077
02:19:44,120 --> 02:19:45,480
Speaker 4: Gabriel pick was strange.

3078
02:19:45,560 --> 02:19:48,080
Speaker 3: It's more strange now, but it was strange when they

3079
02:19:48,080 --> 02:19:51,840
Speaker 3: made it. Agree It's like he's really small, Yeah, yeah,

3080
02:19:51,879 --> 02:19:54,160
Speaker 3: Gabriel so and he's lefty.

3081
02:19:54,680 --> 02:19:56,960
Speaker 5: Oh he's fast though, he's a good runner.

3082
02:19:57,040 --> 02:19:58,720
Speaker 7: We likes that Patriots are on the clock.

3083
02:19:59,000 --> 02:20:03,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Patriots on the Eagles pick is in. What do

3084
02:20:03,360 --> 02:20:05,400
Speaker 4: you think sticking with defense here?

3085
02:20:06,840 --> 02:20:07,320
Speaker 5: Tight end?

3086
02:20:08,120 --> 02:20:09,240
Speaker 7: I think tight ends a good call.

3087
02:20:09,320 --> 02:20:09,640
Speaker 5: Tight end.

3088
02:20:09,680 --> 02:20:10,800
Speaker 7: I think tight ends a good call.

3089
02:20:10,920 --> 02:20:11,320
Speaker 3: Tight ends.

3090
02:20:12,600 --> 02:20:18,320
Speaker 5: There are some tight ends left. Gadson from Syracuse's left,

3091
02:20:19,280 --> 02:20:21,879
Speaker 5: Mitchell Evans from Notre Dame, who's coming off that injury.

3092
02:20:22,240 --> 02:20:27,000
Speaker 5: H CJ. DePree, Thomas Fadoni. Uh, but Mitchell Evans, I

3093
02:20:27,040 --> 02:20:29,039
Speaker 5: think is really interesting if they do go tight end.

3094
02:20:29,040 --> 02:20:31,039
Speaker 5: I have no idea if they will, but if they do.

3095
02:20:31,400 --> 02:20:33,680
Speaker 5: He had the torn a cl in twenty three, so

3096
02:20:33,800 --> 02:20:35,880
Speaker 5: he had last year was the first year back from

3097
02:20:35,959 --> 02:20:38,760
Speaker 5: the a CL. So you hope that, you know, maybe

3098
02:20:38,840 --> 02:20:41,760
Speaker 5: with some space in between it, then you know he'll

3099
02:20:41,800 --> 02:20:45,160
Speaker 5: be the player he was before the a cl injury.

3100
02:20:45,160 --> 02:20:48,000
Speaker 5: He was thought of as a as a guy that

3101
02:20:48,120 --> 02:20:50,200
Speaker 5: was going to go pretty high when he you know,

3102
02:20:50,280 --> 02:20:54,000
Speaker 5: was coming out and developing at Notre Dame mac McWilliam

3103
02:20:54,120 --> 02:20:56,240
Speaker 5: is a good pick by Philadelphia Eagles.

3104
02:20:56,320 --> 02:20:57,640
Speaker 3: You just said you don't even have to look at

3105
02:20:57,680 --> 02:21:00,000
Speaker 3: the team. Yeah, you see that the players come up

3106
02:21:00,120 --> 02:21:02,320
Speaker 3: that you know at this stage of the draft, and

3107
02:21:02,360 --> 02:21:03,800
Speaker 3: you're like, well, Baltimore took him.

3108
02:21:03,920 --> 02:21:06,120
Speaker 5: I could have seen the Patriots taking him, you know.

3109
02:21:06,400 --> 02:21:08,600
Speaker 5: So I'm not surprised that the Eagles took him the

3110
02:21:08,640 --> 02:21:11,800
Speaker 5: pick before the Patriots. But Woodson I think maybe ruled

3111
02:21:11,800 --> 02:21:13,800
Speaker 5: that out, and you know, picking kind of a nickel

3112
02:21:13,840 --> 02:21:16,440
Speaker 5: safety already, they probably weren't going to double up on that.

3113
02:21:16,480 --> 02:21:19,119
Speaker 5: But I really liked mac McWilliams at the senior.

3114
02:21:18,920 --> 02:21:19,800
Speaker 7: Parts a lot about him.

3115
02:21:19,879 --> 02:21:22,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, scrappy player, really good cover corner, could play in

3116
02:21:22,959 --> 02:21:24,959
Speaker 5: the slot and probably at the NFL level.

3117
02:21:27,000 --> 02:21:29,560
Speaker 4: Let's see Connor Wrights. And not only did the Browns

3118
02:21:29,640 --> 02:21:32,560
Speaker 4: draft dealing Gabriel before Shador Sanders, but they also traded

3119
02:21:32,600 --> 02:21:35,360
Speaker 4: out of Travis Hunter. I can't stand Dion in all

3120
02:21:35,400 --> 02:21:37,360
Speaker 4: the hype and nonsense around this whole thing, But I

3121
02:21:37,400 --> 02:21:40,920
Speaker 4: hope Chador can find success after this. Maybe he's humbled

3122
02:21:40,920 --> 02:21:43,439
Speaker 4: and a little embarrassed and can turn it into motivation.

3123
02:21:43,520 --> 02:21:46,519
Speaker 4: The Browns, as always make head scratching decisions.

3124
02:21:50,040 --> 02:21:53,520
Speaker 3: I like everything they did except for the Gabriel pick.

3125
02:21:54,160 --> 02:21:59,240
Speaker 3: I can be absolutely talked into the trade that they

3126
02:21:59,280 --> 02:22:01,560
Speaker 3: made early in the I know I'm in the minority,

3127
02:22:01,560 --> 02:22:05,360
Speaker 3: and that's okay. You have you got the ability to

3128
02:22:05,360 --> 02:22:08,400
Speaker 3: get a developmental quarterback anyway. I just I think they

3129
02:22:08,440 --> 02:22:10,000
Speaker 3: could have gotten a player that might have been able

3130
02:22:10,000 --> 02:22:11,920
Speaker 3: to help them instead of Gabriel.

3131
02:22:12,280 --> 02:22:15,160
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously they had to have thought that wasn't

3132
02:22:15,160 --> 02:22:16,680
Speaker 5: going to be here, right.

3133
02:22:16,800 --> 02:22:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think, I mean this is hindsight

3134
02:22:19,560 --> 02:22:21,280
Speaker 3: because you don't know at the time, but I just

3135
02:22:21,320 --> 02:22:23,879
Speaker 3: thought that Gabriel was a kind of a Gabriel to

3136
02:22:23,920 --> 02:22:25,760
Speaker 3: me was a seventh round pick. Yeah, if he were

3137
02:22:25,760 --> 02:22:27,640
Speaker 3: going to do it, I agree. So small, and he

3138
02:22:27,760 --> 02:22:30,160
Speaker 3: was very productive in college. He was he was good

3139
02:22:30,200 --> 02:22:32,560
Speaker 3: at in all three schools that he played at. He

3140
02:22:32,640 --> 02:22:33,360
Speaker 3: was a good player.

3141
02:22:33,720 --> 02:22:33,879
Speaker 5: Yeah.

3142
02:22:33,879 --> 02:22:35,680
Speaker 3: I think you started at UCF right, and he went

3143
02:22:35,680 --> 02:22:39,879
Speaker 3: to Oklahoma in Oregon. He's a good college player. I

3144
02:22:39,920 --> 02:22:41,160
Speaker 3: just think he's going to be too small.

3145
02:22:41,400 --> 02:22:46,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Patriots pick is in, so we'll we'll hear

3146
02:22:46,840 --> 02:22:48,120
Speaker 4: what it is momentarily.

3147
02:22:48,200 --> 02:22:50,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, if i'm if I might just share in a

3148
02:22:50,040 --> 02:22:54,640
Speaker 8: quick story that Alex if I may Alex shared looking

3149
02:22:54,760 --> 02:22:57,640
Speaker 8: up a little into Joshua Farmer. He lost both his

3150
02:22:57,720 --> 02:23:00,240
Speaker 8: parents by the time he turned eleven. His father when

3151
02:23:00,240 --> 02:23:02,879
Speaker 8: he was two after complications from a botch of stomach surgery.

3152
02:23:03,080 --> 02:23:05,560
Speaker 8: His mother passed away from brain aneurism. He was raised

3153
02:23:05,560 --> 02:23:08,840
Speaker 8: by his grandmother and older siblings, So a lot of

3154
02:23:09,959 --> 02:23:12,440
Speaker 8: a lot of adversity there for him. Long track in arts,

3155
02:23:12,480 --> 02:23:14,800
Speaker 8: is you like these stories? You realize what it means

3156
02:23:14,840 --> 02:23:15,560
Speaker 8: to get to this point?

3157
02:23:15,680 --> 02:23:19,680
Speaker 4: Yeah? Uh, I think it was. Was it Elliott who

3158
02:23:19,800 --> 02:23:22,760
Speaker 4: was in his press commerce talking about Henderson saying that

3159
02:23:22,840 --> 02:23:25,280
Speaker 4: he had a lot of adversity? I think, so do

3160
02:23:25,360 --> 02:23:26,280
Speaker 4: we know what that was?

3161
02:23:26,840 --> 02:23:28,160
Speaker 7: I have to look, I'm not sure.

3162
02:23:28,080 --> 02:23:30,000
Speaker 4: That probably the beast it has it.

3163
02:23:30,320 --> 02:23:30,760
Speaker 7: Yeah.

3164
02:23:32,080 --> 02:23:35,200
Speaker 4: A lot of these guys have stories that, you know,

3165
02:23:35,400 --> 02:23:39,880
Speaker 4: required them to overcome something that you know, lesser people

3166
02:23:39,879 --> 02:23:45,199
Speaker 4: wouldn't be able to overcome, you know. So, uh, all right,

3167
02:23:45,280 --> 02:23:46,560
Speaker 4: so the Patriots pick is in.

3168
02:23:46,760 --> 02:23:50,640
Speaker 24: We should be getting it anytime now, checking my phone

3169
02:23:50,640 --> 02:23:58,039
Speaker 24: any day now, Okay, Yeah, I think.

3170
02:23:57,959 --> 02:24:00,320
Speaker 4: I think, uh, Deuce is gonna like that one.

3171
02:24:00,360 --> 02:24:03,280
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, I think this is gonna like this?

3172
02:24:03,680 --> 02:24:05,600
Speaker 7: How much am I gonna like it? Am I gonna

3173
02:24:05,640 --> 02:24:05,840
Speaker 7: like it?

3174
02:24:05,920 --> 02:24:08,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, how much can you like one and forty six pick?

3175
02:24:08,480 --> 02:24:09,920
Speaker 7: Oh, I can like, well, I had him on the

3176
02:24:09,920 --> 02:24:11,160
Speaker 7: Big Boy, then I'll really like him.

3177
02:24:11,160 --> 02:24:18,280
Speaker 3: And I'm hoping the Big Boy even even Paul like this.

3178
02:24:18,520 --> 02:24:20,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, so this is a real edge rusher, right, So

3179
02:24:20,600 --> 02:24:24,039
Speaker 5: they're they're happy. I'm happy hitting tapping that class for

3180
02:24:24,160 --> 02:24:27,960
Speaker 5: deuce over there. So speed to power rusher, good thickness

3181
02:24:28,040 --> 02:24:31,480
Speaker 5: sixty three to two fifty five, another guy with longer

3182
02:24:31,600 --> 02:24:34,440
Speaker 5: you know, arms above average length over thirty three inches,

3183
02:24:34,920 --> 02:24:37,280
Speaker 5: and I just look at him as somebody that can

3184
02:24:37,320 --> 02:24:41,000
Speaker 5: really get extended and convert speed to power coming off

3185
02:24:41,040 --> 02:24:43,800
Speaker 5: the edge. And had a really great production last year

3186
02:24:43,840 --> 02:24:47,440
Speaker 5: at LSU. Sixty total quarterback pressures at LSU last year

3187
02:24:47,600 --> 02:24:50,640
Speaker 5: and thirty one stops in twenty twenty four against the run.

3188
02:24:50,760 --> 02:24:55,160
Speaker 5: So productive player, uh, physical player, I would say, you know,

3189
02:24:55,240 --> 02:24:57,879
Speaker 5: as that burst in that energy off the snap to

3190
02:24:57,920 --> 02:25:00,800
Speaker 5: be able to win with pure speed. But I think

3191
02:25:00,840 --> 02:25:03,400
Speaker 5: he's at his best, you know, pressing the pocket with

3192
02:25:03,480 --> 02:25:06,320
Speaker 5: his power in his length. I thought that he was

3193
02:25:06,360 --> 02:25:08,360
Speaker 5: going to go much higher than this. You know a

3194
02:25:08,360 --> 02:25:10,280
Speaker 5: lot of people had him projected in the top one

3195
02:25:10,320 --> 02:25:13,920
Speaker 5: hundred of this draft. So you wonder there what was

3196
02:25:14,640 --> 02:25:15,800
Speaker 5: the situation.

3197
02:25:15,680 --> 02:25:16,600
Speaker 3: You know exactly.

3198
02:25:17,840 --> 02:25:19,640
Speaker 5: I don't know if there's an injury there or something

3199
02:25:19,720 --> 02:25:23,240
Speaker 5: like that that that pushed him down the board. But

3200
02:25:23,400 --> 02:25:26,560
Speaker 5: like I said, sixty total pressures in college and what

3201
02:25:26,680 --> 02:25:29,640
Speaker 5: twelve games is that's a lot that that's getting after

3202
02:25:29,680 --> 02:25:32,360
Speaker 5: the quarterback. So you want to pure edge rusher, a

3203
02:25:32,400 --> 02:25:35,360
Speaker 5: guy that can really get after the QB outside the

3204
02:25:35,400 --> 02:25:38,720
Speaker 5: tackle and win and pressure the QB that way. That

3205
02:25:38,840 --> 02:25:39,440
Speaker 5: this is it.

3206
02:25:39,400 --> 02:25:41,960
Speaker 8: It got him, know Will Campbell pretty well imagine there

3207
02:25:42,040 --> 02:25:44,400
Speaker 8: was some good, good battles there in practice.

3208
02:25:44,440 --> 02:25:46,680
Speaker 7: So yeah, now this is uh, this is good. I

3209
02:25:46,760 --> 02:25:47,360
Speaker 7: like what they're doing.

3210
02:25:47,680 --> 02:25:50,760
Speaker 8: You know, acknowledging day three, these are flyers, but still

3211
02:25:50,959 --> 02:25:52,680
Speaker 8: the traits are there. I think it would have been

3212
02:25:52,720 --> 02:25:54,480
Speaker 8: a mistake to get through this edge class and not

3213
02:25:54,879 --> 02:25:57,920
Speaker 8: take at least these guys coming from a big program.

3214
02:25:58,040 --> 02:25:59,920
Speaker 7: So that's funny how how these things were?

3215
02:26:00,200 --> 02:26:00,360
Speaker 6: Right?

3216
02:26:01,280 --> 02:26:02,600
Speaker 4: Oh, just how the board fell?

3217
02:26:02,920 --> 02:26:03,240
Speaker 7: Please?

3218
02:26:04,240 --> 02:26:07,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I know that we it's day three

3219
02:26:07,800 --> 02:26:11,879
Speaker 5: and all should keep that in perspective. But I really

3220
02:26:11,920 --> 02:26:15,199
Speaker 5: thought that Swinson had had upside to be a potential

3221
02:26:15,240 --> 02:26:17,040
Speaker 5: starter in the league. Like you know, a lot of

3222
02:26:17,040 --> 02:26:19,199
Speaker 5: people had him in the top their top one hundreds.

3223
02:26:19,240 --> 02:26:22,160
Speaker 5: You know, third round pick territory. Like usually when you

3224
02:26:22,240 --> 02:26:24,000
Speaker 5: draft a guy in the third round, you're thinking that

3225
02:26:24,080 --> 02:26:26,560
Speaker 5: maybe that guy could develop into a starter. So this

3226
02:26:26,680 --> 02:26:28,520
Speaker 5: is what I've been talking about with the depth of

3227
02:26:28,560 --> 02:26:30,280
Speaker 5: the edge class. You know, some of these guys just

3228
02:26:30,320 --> 02:26:33,840
Speaker 5: got pushed down the board here pretty significantly, and he

3229
02:26:33,920 --> 02:26:36,040
Speaker 5: was he was kind of the last one of the

3230
02:26:36,120 --> 02:26:39,000
Speaker 5: run here and the Patriots get him. So good stuff.

3231
02:26:39,720 --> 02:26:41,800
Speaker 4: Let's get to the phones. We'll clear them out before

3232
02:26:41,840 --> 02:26:46,000
Speaker 4: we say goodbye for today. Scott's and Dudley. What's up Scott.

3233
02:26:47,560 --> 02:26:53,520
Speaker 25: And gentlemen, thanks for your service today. So I have

3234
02:26:53,600 --> 02:26:56,320
Speaker 25: a couple of different things. The first thing I was

3235
02:26:56,360 --> 02:27:00,359
Speaker 25: going to ask about is our defensive line or front.

3236
02:27:01,360 --> 02:27:04,240
Speaker 25: Most of these guys are strong on the pass rush,

3237
02:27:04,280 --> 02:27:05,800
Speaker 25: but I don't know how strong.

3238
02:27:05,520 --> 02:27:09,960
Speaker 12: They of them run. What's your take on potentially getting

3239
02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:12,600
Speaker 12: somebody I know they just got farm up, but getting

3240
02:27:12,720 --> 02:27:16,560
Speaker 12: getting a little bit more heft in the middle to

3241
02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:17,800
Speaker 12: make sure you don't get run on.

3242
02:27:19,080 --> 02:27:21,320
Speaker 8: I mean, I feel pretty good where they're at right now.

3243
02:27:21,879 --> 02:27:26,720
Speaker 8: You know, between Tonga and Farmer, you have some some

3244
02:27:26,760 --> 02:27:28,760
Speaker 8: size there to play with. You've got you got a

3245
02:27:28,760 --> 02:27:29,920
Speaker 8: lot of holdover guys.

3246
02:27:29,680 --> 02:27:30,240
Speaker 7: In there too.

3247
02:27:30,640 --> 02:27:32,840
Speaker 8: I don't know if they'll get anything out of Jeremiah Farms,

3248
02:27:32,959 --> 02:27:36,360
Speaker 8: Eric Johnson or Jaquelin Roy or Marcus Harris or Titus Leo.

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02:27:37,000 --> 02:27:39,200
Speaker 8: You know, they have a bunch of names there, But

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Speaker 8: in terms of the guys that they've drafted and actually

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02:27:41,400 --> 02:27:43,480
Speaker 8: signed up, I mean I feel okay, I think I'm

3252
02:27:43,560 --> 02:27:45,640
Speaker 8: kind of in the Paul camp of like, we'll figure

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02:27:45,680 --> 02:27:46,520
Speaker 8: out how to stop the run.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think Tonga was was acquired with that kind

3255
02:27:50,040 --> 02:27:50,600
Speaker 3: of thing in mind.

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02:27:50,640 --> 02:27:52,560
Speaker 8: They needed a big space eater. There's always those three

3257
02:27:52,640 --> 02:27:53,840
Speaker 8: hundred and thirty pound guys like, you.

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02:27:53,840 --> 02:27:57,120
Speaker 3: Know, if you're gotchaw, they let go. So yeah, I

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02:27:57,160 --> 02:27:59,560
Speaker 3: mean they got He's right, they got run on last year.

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Speaker 3: I keep saying the defense was just as bad as

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Speaker 3: everything else.

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Speaker 4: Last says, you know, worry about the run on your

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02:28:05,120 --> 02:28:06,440
Speaker 4: own time, you know.

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02:28:08,080 --> 02:28:10,760
Speaker 8: But if anything, if you have you can find big,

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02:28:10,840 --> 02:28:12,520
Speaker 8: big fatties to put in the middle. I think there's

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02:28:12,520 --> 02:28:14,879
Speaker 8: always like they're always finding the Carl Davises of the

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02:28:14,879 --> 02:28:16,720
Speaker 8: world or you know, those kind of guys.

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Speaker 4: But there are those times where we get frustrated because

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02:28:20,280 --> 02:28:21,760
Speaker 4: they're not they're getting run over.

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02:28:21,800 --> 02:28:23,200
Speaker 8: Well, I mean but I would say, I mean, I

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02:28:23,200 --> 02:28:25,160
Speaker 8: would honestly say I think some of their run problems

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02:28:25,200 --> 02:28:28,039
Speaker 8: last year was as much about having linebackers that can't

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02:28:28,040 --> 02:28:29,959
Speaker 8: get to the ball, can't get off blocks, can't get

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02:28:29,959 --> 02:28:32,039
Speaker 8: through blocks, can't get a round blocks, and.

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02:28:32,080 --> 02:28:35,360
Speaker 3: Just ask you know, right, I'll tell you.

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02:28:35,959 --> 02:28:39,959
Speaker 4: Let's go to Rio and what's up Rio?

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Speaker 23: Hey, gentlemen, appreciating the coverage here, enjoying Day three. Nice

3278
02:28:46,920 --> 02:28:50,560
Speaker 23: picks and one in particularly really got my my mind

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02:28:50,600 --> 02:28:54,240
Speaker 23: turning when they took Josh, a farmer like me, He's

3280
02:28:54,280 --> 02:28:56,960
Speaker 23: a hybrid guy. In my comp for him, they came

3281
02:28:57,040 --> 02:29:01,960
Speaker 23: up right away was Red Bryan's gap, and I'm wondering

3282
02:29:02,040 --> 02:29:03,600
Speaker 23: this is going to be a little bit more for

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02:29:03,720 --> 02:29:06,680
Speaker 23: the ball Nowork crowd and maybe Mike, he loves this defense.

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02:29:06,720 --> 02:29:08,520
Speaker 23: But do you see them maybe trying to bring in

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02:29:08,560 --> 02:29:12,160
Speaker 23: some of the principles of that Seattle cover three, Because

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02:29:12,200 --> 02:29:14,480
Speaker 23: now you've got a guy that can play that that

3287
02:29:14,560 --> 02:29:18,000
Speaker 23: big end, you've got your explosive free technique, you've got

3288
02:29:18,000 --> 02:29:21,160
Speaker 23: a bunch of guys just they drafted Swinton and Head

3289
02:29:21,280 --> 02:29:23,360
Speaker 23: in that Leo role, and then you've got a couple

3290
02:29:23,360 --> 02:29:26,280
Speaker 23: of box safeties where you know they can really get

3291
02:29:26,320 --> 02:29:28,400
Speaker 23: them down close to the line of scrimmage and force

3292
02:29:28,440 --> 02:29:30,760
Speaker 23: the run while keeping some athleticism on the field.

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02:29:30,879 --> 02:29:33,560
Speaker 4: Thrown around the HR, you're trying to recreate that a

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02:29:33,560 --> 02:29:33,920
Speaker 4: little bit.

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02:29:34,240 --> 02:29:36,720
Speaker 7: I followed it all. I felt pretty pretty good about that,

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02:29:37,840 --> 02:29:38,039
Speaker 7: you know.

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02:29:38,120 --> 02:29:41,200
Speaker 8: I I I just the least moved away from that,

3298
02:29:41,200 --> 02:29:45,600
Speaker 8: that cover three defense. It's a lot more match quarters

3299
02:29:45,640 --> 02:29:47,800
Speaker 8: that kind of stuff. So I'm not sure in terms

3300
02:29:47,800 --> 02:29:50,440
Speaker 8: of like what kind of coverages they're primarily going to

3301
02:29:50,440 --> 02:29:50,800
Speaker 8: be running.

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02:29:50,800 --> 02:29:52,039
Speaker 7: It's it's a it's a good question.

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02:29:52,480 --> 02:29:54,640
Speaker 8: I'd especially tie in the safeties to that. I don't

3304
02:29:54,680 --> 02:29:58,240
Speaker 8: know how they plan on balancing that out is you know,

3305
02:29:58,280 --> 02:30:00,959
Speaker 8: do they have that true free safety Earl Thomas tight

3306
02:30:01,280 --> 02:30:02,640
Speaker 8: who's just going to play back there?

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02:30:03,040 --> 02:30:03,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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02:30:03,400 --> 02:30:04,560
Speaker 7: I don't see it quite one.

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02:30:04,640 --> 02:30:06,920
Speaker 8: For one, again, I know the least gotten away from

3310
02:30:06,920 --> 02:30:08,880
Speaker 8: that that style of defense. Even Pete Carroll was getting

3311
02:30:08,879 --> 02:30:10,920
Speaker 8: away from it at the end, so I guess it's

3312
02:30:10,920 --> 02:30:14,840
Speaker 8: not the end he's renewed now. But no, it's a

3313
02:30:14,840 --> 02:30:17,960
Speaker 8: really good question and something I'm fascinated to see because

3314
02:30:18,360 --> 02:30:20,119
Speaker 8: you know, even last year you had the same safety

3315
02:30:20,160 --> 02:30:22,480
Speaker 8: coaches and defensive back coaches, you had a lot of

3316
02:30:22,520 --> 02:30:24,160
Speaker 8: the same coverage philosophies.

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02:30:24,160 --> 02:30:26,320
Speaker 7: I would say, do those change, I will see.

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02:30:26,600 --> 02:30:29,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're going to be an up the field defense.

3319
02:30:29,320 --> 02:30:31,520
Speaker 5: We've definitely talked about that, and they're going to be

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02:30:31,560 --> 02:30:33,360
Speaker 5: a four to three They're going to get up the field.

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02:30:33,959 --> 02:30:34,120
Speaker 4: You know.

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02:30:34,240 --> 02:30:37,720
Speaker 5: Swinson, I think, will be more of a third down

3323
02:30:37,959 --> 02:30:40,640
Speaker 5: situational pass rusher. We've talked a lot about Chase on

3324
02:30:41,080 --> 02:30:44,000
Speaker 5: today is maybe in that role for twenty five, but

3325
02:30:44,040 --> 02:30:46,600
Speaker 5: maybe you hope that that Swinston can either push them

3326
02:30:46,680 --> 02:30:49,720
Speaker 5: or or maybe be a long term play. They're in

3327
02:30:49,760 --> 02:30:53,000
Speaker 5: that type of role for them, But I don't know

3328
02:30:53,160 --> 02:30:55,640
Speaker 5: if they'll necessarily go Seattle three. That's not really what

3329
02:30:55,760 --> 02:30:58,800
Speaker 5: Rabel was doing in Tennessee. But I think they're going

3330
02:30:58,879 --> 02:31:01,440
Speaker 5: to play a lot of man coverage in New England.

3331
02:31:01,440 --> 02:31:02,600
Speaker 5: I think you're gonna play a ton of man.

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02:31:02,760 --> 02:31:05,680
Speaker 4: All right, Well, listen two and a half hours on

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Speaker 4: day three, sous into round five. Patriots went all defense today.

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Speaker 15: Right.

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3344
02:31:46,320 --> 02:31:47,000
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3345
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