Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the
Speaker 1: Trend Report. Week Trend, I prefer the week trend.
Speaker 2: Oh man, you know how people talk about how like
Speaker 2: memes before, you know, like like you know, sort of
Speaker 2: jpeg making the gift type reaction. Memes was just people
Speaker 2: like reciting movie quotes over and over. It really, when
Speaker 2: I really think about that, I'm like, yeah, that's that
Speaker 2: was truly one of my favorite pastimes in college, getting around,
Speaker 2: have a few bruis puff anal or two and then
Speaker 2: just start saying stuff from fucking dumb and dumber in context,
Speaker 2: Oh big gulps, huh.
Speaker 1: Grilla is hot, Luke, I have it like from random
Speaker 1: like random places.
Speaker 3: What's the most random movie that you would do?
Speaker 1: Movie random? Oh my god, miles of I'm sorry random,
Speaker 1: I'm random, So I don't I don't know if my habit.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking like, yeah, I have Meet the
Speaker 1: Parents quote like not that the random, but it's just like.
Speaker 3: Which one cool?
Speaker 1: The The gorilla is hot? The pool is Luke Wilson's character,
Speaker 1: and that is like really stuck with me. Just one.
Speaker 2: I remember where he's where he's talking about making an
Speaker 2: altar or a.
Speaker 3: There was that one that I remember from that scene.
Speaker 1: My man j C was a jew. Yeah, you're in
Speaker 1: good company, You're in good company. That character really got me.
Speaker 1: But I feel like, didn't you know, I'll quote it
Speaker 1: and not many people will get it, and I'm glad
Speaker 1: because it's not cool to quote meet the parents.
Speaker 2: I know it is. It is an interesting one. That
Speaker 2: that one we used to do.
Speaker 3: Uh oh is it called a jerusale tulip puzzle?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: Oh, that's right. You don't know shit about flowers.
Speaker 2: That was one we used to say a lot too,
Speaker 2: is you don't know shit about flowers anyway, But here
Speaker 2: we are twenty.
Speaker 1: Twenty of the time when people are trying to pretend
Speaker 1: like they know about flowers, you got to put them down.
Speaker 3: Damn that she came out in two thousand. Yeah, I thought.
Speaker 1: It's an eleven world.
Speaker 3: Oh lord.
Speaker 1: Oh anyway, Jack O'Brien, that is Miles Gray, Yes, and yeah,
Speaker 1: we're here to tell you about some of the things
Speaker 1: that are trending from the weekend.
Speaker 3: Hey, Greg, what's your portfolio?
Speaker 1: Like? Oh? Strong strong, too, very strong, strong to quite
Speaker 1: strong as always there? Uh yeah, man, you got to
Speaker 1: strike while the iron's hot. Just really that that whole scene.
Speaker 1: I think I've only seen it like once or twice,
Speaker 1: but that whole wow really embedded well as you can tell.
Speaker 1: I like have some of the quote wrong quite strong,
Speaker 1: very strong or whatever. Anyways, Miles, we got to tell
Speaker 1: the people what we think is overrated and underrated, so
Speaker 1: they get to know us a little bit better and
Speaker 1: where we're at, where we're coming from. Mm hmmm. Do
Speaker 1: you want to kick us off with something you think
Speaker 1: is should we go underrated first? Do we do?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do whichever underrated for me? Because we've been
Speaker 2: talking about stand culture and I really it really hit
Speaker 2: me this weekend. My sports religiosity is I'm I think
Speaker 2: I'm underrating it, although I do the only tattoo I
Speaker 2: do have on my body is of Arsenal, so in
Speaker 2: that sense I should have known.
Speaker 3: But the new Premier League season.
Speaker 2: Started on and Harry Kane is off to Germany. He
Speaker 2: no longer plays for Tottenham. He has been sent to
Speaker 2: Munich to play for Bayern Munich. So good luck with
Speaker 2: you over there. Sorry, but yeah, Ben said, yeah, so
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just like I was realizing that
Speaker 2: my my brain is officially begun to missfire as like
Speaker 2: I place inor just an inordinate amount of like my
Speaker 2: hopes and dreams into how Arsenal performs. And there's like
Speaker 2: a meme where it like when the season starts, and
Speaker 2: like there's a guy like going into work. He's like, well,
Speaker 2: it's I'm off to let eleven random men determine my
Speaker 2: mental health.
Speaker 3: For the next eight months.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: So I'm just like I was just like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: had family in town. I'm like waking up early. I'm
Speaker 2: like showing the baby. I'm like, this is this is
Speaker 2: who we are, this is.
Speaker 3: What we do.
Speaker 2: You know, it's we had our first Yeah, we won
Speaker 2: two one two one. Also, although we just signed a guy,
Speaker 2: he did his meniscus in the game and like like
Speaker 2: one of our big marquee signings in the summer, it's
Speaker 2: like you just see him literally out of nowhere, just
Speaker 2: like move like not even an impact injury. No one
Speaker 2: was near me, and just like fell to the ground.
Speaker 2: You're like, oh so again, just watching this random young
Speaker 2: dutch man fall over grabbing his knee.
Speaker 3: Just shook me to my fucking core the rest of
Speaker 3: the day. Uh. But again, it's I think it's because
Speaker 3: I gave up on Christ. You know good here I am.
Speaker 1: This is what you have to replace it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have replaced it.
Speaker 1: I have. I've converted to just being a Taylor Swift fan.
Speaker 3: And at least there's like bracelets involved.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Like when you get together there are like
Speaker 2: all kinds of people, whereas when I get together with Arsenal,
Speaker 2: people just take a bunch of like.
Speaker 3: Gen X and older, like millennial dudes, just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: how long have you been watching man?
Speaker 1: Well? I wouldn't know anything about that because the seventy
Speaker 1: six ers are doing great and it's not at all
Speaker 1: messy over the weekend. Yeah, or second barrel to me
Speaker 1: vowed that he will never play for our team again.
Speaker 1: Uh so yeah, yeah, it is what it is. But hey,
Speaker 1: I'm distracting myself with other stuff.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like what what's what's some of your things? Underrated?
Speaker 3: What have you been distracted?
Speaker 1: Serious? American roads are I'm on my car kick, I'm
Speaker 1: on my anti car kick about how heavy cars are
Speaker 1: in the US. How bad it's just I think it
Speaker 1: really is just having kids and like going out for
Speaker 1: walks with kids and realizing you are like boxed in
Speaker 1: by speeding death vehicles like a like all over the
Speaker 1: place in an American city, and so you know that's
Speaker 1: just constantly there. So I was doing one of our
Speaker 1: former writers that cracked, Ian forty, was posting about how
Speaker 1: I believe he's a Canadian, but he was posting about
Speaker 1: how the US, you know, car safety metrics, car deaths
Speaker 1: used to be tracking along with France, like from the
Speaker 1: seventies to the nineties. They were declining. They were doing
Speaker 1: things like making people wear seat belts, asking people pretty
Speaker 1: forcefully not to drink and drive. Like these things that
Speaker 1: kind of started at that time and now are just
Speaker 1: kind of assumed and a part of our culture. And
Speaker 1: so the deaths both in France in the US, we're
Speaker 1: going down over the over that period of time. And
Speaker 1: then they became uncoupled in the early nineties when everything
Speaker 1: went to shit, and now you're three like three times
Speaker 1: as likely to die from a car related death than
Speaker 1: someone in France. Just for no reason. We like we
Speaker 1: have access to the same shit, we just don't use it.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean it's also wild too, because like
Speaker 2: as I as I gear up to go for like
Speaker 2: a trip with the baby and her majesty and like
Speaker 2: looking at like the laws of like driving with a
Speaker 2: baby in like Europe, like they're like, yeah, if you're
Speaker 2: like in a cab, like you don't need a car seat,
Speaker 2: like you're like, yeah, it's fine, like let's hold them
Speaker 2: or whatever. And my American brain is like, but what
Speaker 2: about when a tanker truck fucking t bones you and
Speaker 2: you die in a fucking ball of flames and there
Speaker 2: it's like truly because just statistically it's just just safer
Speaker 2: to drive that, like those regulations are there, and I
Speaker 2: don't know if that is necessarily the safest course of action,
Speaker 2: but again you definitely see that sort of reflected in
Speaker 2: like what the regulations are in other countries or like
Speaker 2: oh yeah, like if they're like a trained cab driver,
Speaker 2: like that's that's fine, Like if it's actually had vehicle.
Speaker 1: Go through ten years of training there you know how
Speaker 1: to drive, like Jason Statham in that uh Audi sponsored movie.
Speaker 2: Whereas like in America, like it's all like the hunt
Speaker 2: for like the most fucked up DMV office where you know,
Speaker 2: like it's like people who are like trying to kick
Speaker 2: heroin or administering the driving test so you can get
Speaker 2: a driver's license as quickly and easily as possible.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's like speeding cameras, Like it's
Speaker 1: some annoying shit, right that, like it's not going to
Speaker 1: be popular to be like we need to use cameras
Speaker 1: to track people's speeds so they can't you know, get
Speaker 1: away with going sixty down a you know, residential street
Speaker 1: or whatever. Right, But there there's also just smart We've
Speaker 1: talked before about like street road like Strode problems, like
Speaker 1: just the way US cities are designed. But there are
Speaker 1: ways of getting around that by you know, making making
Speaker 1: just things safer. They there's like weight taxes. There's a
Speaker 1: tax on like inefficient vehicles that makes that can cost
Speaker 1: you like forty.
Speaker 2: Here in his fucking woke dude, that's all I'm here.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine what that would just like the weight
Speaker 2: tax would send like the Midwest and like parts of
Speaker 2: the country into just just chaos being like, yeah, well
Speaker 2: I'm being.
Speaker 4: Punished because I got a heavy duty vehicle for what
Speaker 4: Also because it's just because of the physics of it,
Speaker 4: like it's harder to stop because it's so massive and
Speaker 4: dense that right, it's actually an additional threat vector on
Speaker 4: the road.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, the fact that the f one fifty. Super
Speaker 1: producer Brian is pointing out the f one fifty the
Speaker 1: number one selling vehicle in America for like forever now,
Speaker 1: and it just gets before we were born, bigger and bigger.
Speaker 3: I remember when the Ford f one fifty you'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's kind of like the broke boy Ford truck.
Speaker 2: It's like call me when you got a two fifty
Speaker 2: or three fifty.
Speaker 1: You know it has like jet engines and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: now terry grid like tank wheels.
Speaker 2: Remember the Ford Ranger. What happened to that good old
Speaker 2: compact pickup?
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm still out here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: They're still still hanging out. You know.
Speaker 2: I think they've but I think they're like redid it.
Speaker 2: So it's like just some kind of gigantic car again.
Speaker 2: And you're like, yeah, the twenty twenty four Ranger Raptor,
Speaker 2: the of course that's a fucking Raptor. And like, look, dude, Jack,
Speaker 2: look at the fuckings again. Think of the Ford Ranger
Speaker 2: of our childhood and where it is now. It's like
Speaker 2: a four door fucking fuck fest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this looks like it was designed to hunt. Jason
Speaker 1: Bourne to.
Speaker 3: That that's a joke.
Speaker 1: From a show called College Friends or Friends from College
Speaker 1: or something that I got from that.
Speaker 3: Wasn't that a movie with Michael Key.
Speaker 1: It was a show. It was a streaming show. Had
Speaker 1: a handful of really good jokes. But anyways, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a mess out there. I don't know. I would love
Speaker 1: to live in a place that like the other thing
Speaker 1: they did is like redesigned cities and towns to be pedestrianized,
Speaker 1: is what they call it. And you know that just
Speaker 1: seems everything is designed in order, Like over there it's
Speaker 1: designed for people, and here it's designed for commerce. And
Speaker 1: so it's just it's just a man.
Speaker 2: You work for the economy, remember that, right, You don't know,
Speaker 2: seems like a thing where we'd be like, hey, people
Speaker 2: to judge is like transportation secretary, Like this must be
Speaker 2: a thing that you were thinking about and constantly working on. No,
Speaker 2: I did this for free tickets to like big events, right,
Speaker 2: fucking you see what I did? See it happened when
Speaker 2: the fucking airlines melted down last year. I did fuck
Speaker 2: all about it. What are you talking about? Just here
Speaker 2: for the fucking business card?
Speaker 3: Baby?
Speaker 1: Yeah all right? What uh? What's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 2: The fucking just the life cycle, fanfare, explosion of the
Speaker 2: that motherfucker back there.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but he is not real.
Speaker 2: Okay, the lady on the plane, that motherfucker is not real, lady,
Speaker 2: just the whole cycle of this story. I'm so over it,
Speaker 2: and I do not appreciate the outsized attention that it
Speaker 2: is getting. Because you remember, there's a viral video of
Speaker 2: a woman on American Airlines flight how she kept she
Speaker 2: was like clearly having she was distressed. She's having some
Speaker 2: kind of mental health situation, as she even says herself
Speaker 2: like later on and was insistent that like this dude
Speaker 2: who was on the plane back there is not fucking real.
Speaker 2: And then first people were like, wow, look it's wild
Speaker 2: on American Airlines, and other people were like.
Speaker 3: See, dude, it's the fucking matrix. This lady fucking is
Speaker 3: seeing it.
Speaker 2: And now she this woman is like she was like
Speaker 2: doxed by the New York Post last week and they
Speaker 2: fucking put her like name her, fucking like where she lives,
Speaker 2: what she does for a job, and so on top
Speaker 2: of it, Like, so she's gotten viral on multiple levels.
Speaker 2: But then people like trying to like drive by her house,
Speaker 2: and figure out like if she's like the fucking neumorpheus
Speaker 2: or some shit. And then now she's like coming out
Speaker 2: and turning this into a thing like where she posted
Speaker 2: a video where she's like, I'm really sorry for my behavior, like,
Speaker 2: but I really need to pay this forward by like
Speaker 2: I want to raise like awareness around mental wellness, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera. But then she didn't even have like a
Speaker 2: real specific plan for what that is, and it's just
Speaker 2: it's like having this second life that is just so absurd.
Speaker 2: And then meanwhile, I'm looking on like weird sort of
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory subreddits where they are now adamant that they
Speaker 2: believe she was put up to making this like self
Speaker 2: taped like statement where she was.
Speaker 1: Like she's like at gunpoint in this thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly being like because she can't say the real thing,
Speaker 2: which is that she saw through the fucking matrix, right,
Speaker 2: and and rather than just saying like, hey, I was
Speaker 2: going through a lot, like I really it's kind of
Speaker 2: was an embarrassment for me. I'm also just want to
Speaker 2: like going viral is like really fucked up. Like it's
Speaker 2: caused me a lot of stress also for something I
Speaker 2: really never meant to happen, So like there's just like
Speaker 2: all these layers.
Speaker 3: Of like fucked up around this story.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we now we're getting like a second win
Speaker 2: with like her statement and then people not believing it.
Speaker 2: Not that that's the main thrust is and people don't
Speaker 2: believe her statement, but there's still like just this whole
Speaker 2: video has like set off all kinds of little miniature
Speaker 2: fires in people's brains and it's really weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. I mean the thing that so we've
Speaker 1: talked about how like the thing that's different about this
Speaker 1: is obviously there are cameras, like you know, people and
Speaker 1: having mental health crisis for ever since time immemorial, but
Speaker 1: now like there are cameras there to capture it. But
Speaker 1: I also think like something else made the general public
Speaker 1: kind of obsessed with it. Like the stuff that I've
Speaker 1: heard people getting interested in it is them being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like there probably was a person who was
Speaker 1: not real back there, Like it feels like it's like cool,
Speaker 1: what there is a broad like subtle mental health crisis
Speaker 1: are not so subtle mental health crisis like happening just
Speaker 1: at large, like people are struggling and this is just
Speaker 1: like people were more interested in this than they would
Speaker 1: have otherwise been because I think everybody's like going through
Speaker 1: some shit. I heard somebody talking at a children's birthday
Speaker 1: party about.
Speaker 3: About how that motherfucker was not real talking about my.
Speaker 1: Kid exactly that kid. There's no way that kid's real.
Speaker 1: Talking about how they'd like gone to Burning Man last year.
Speaker 1: They were like it was like really bad vibes. I
Speaker 1: don't know, like what it was. I think the weather
Speaker 1: was a little bit off like last year vibes than usual, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they'd gone there before, and they were like last year
Speaker 1: in particular, like after the pandemic, like everybody was coming
Speaker 1: out and like they expected one thing and it just
Speaker 1: like felt different. It felt bad, and like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just I think we're all still struggling, you know. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's like a lot of mental health shit. And you
Speaker 1: put a bunch of people on drugs in the middle
Speaker 1: of the desert and expect like the good vibes to
Speaker 1: return and it's maybe not going to not going to
Speaker 1: happen right away. This is not Burning Man. It was
Speaker 1: a bad idea or that it's not going to be
Speaker 1: great this year. But like, I just think there's like
Speaker 1: an unacknowledged like added ingredient of everybody going through some
Speaker 1: shit right now.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean we talked about this too, like with
Speaker 2: the pandemic, Like we've yet to have a real like
Speaker 2: reckoning with what that was like first, that first like
Speaker 2: fourteen months was like and even though now we're still
Speaker 2: in the midst of it. I mean, yeah, there's check
Speaker 2: out the new strain airis coming to a fucking city
Speaker 2: near you. U. But like to not be able to
Speaker 2: really talk about that and understand how difficult that was
Speaker 2: and how much stress that caused for people, Like, yeah, like.
Speaker 3: A lot of us are carrying that shit.
Speaker 2: I mean it luckily like I started therapy like in
Speaker 2: earnest in twenty twenty, Yeah, so like I was able
Speaker 2: to navigate it a little bit better. But I mean
Speaker 2: so many of the things I was feeling at the
Speaker 2: time were to do with the fact that like I
Speaker 2: just couldn't really make sense of everything. But also like
Speaker 2: my empathy and like sympathy was like just going in
Speaker 2: a million directions at once, and like.
Speaker 3: Also trying to figure out like what my place was.
Speaker 2: It was a very it was fucking with people, and yeah,
Speaker 2: to not talk about it and we just kind of
Speaker 2: get back out there, chins up, get.
Speaker 1: Back out there, Chap, get a manager.
Speaker 2: And you can't sue anymore butt pats all day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's just a freaky.
Speaker 1: My overrated is the Elon Musk Zuckerberg fight story? Uh
Speaker 1: to Apparently Zuckerberg's now saying like Elon Musk flaked and
Speaker 1: he's not a serious and uh that he is moving on.
Speaker 3: I fight me, just a regular old brown person. I'm
Speaker 3: sure you put your hands on me.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Oh why can't Why shouldn't Like I feel
Speaker 2: like that could be a thing, Like couldn't you be
Speaker 2: like what if I like, what if you just wanted
Speaker 2: to fight one of us? Plenty of people will fight
Speaker 2: you on Twitter if you're looking for something, And hey, dude, Elon,
Speaker 2: hit me up like I might even fucking throw the
Speaker 2: fight man to make you look cool. Just psych I
Speaker 2: hit him with a fucking elbow, like straight out the
Speaker 2: fucking gate and be.
Speaker 3: Like there it is. Is this your king?
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's yeah. The story is just I think
Speaker 2: I mean it, I really wanted to happen, So I
Speaker 2: don't want to be dishonest about the fact that I
Speaker 2: really would have liked to see this just because that's
Speaker 2: that's where we're at. But I do understand like how
Speaker 2: this is also another thing though too that is absorbing
Speaker 2: so much oxygen, but like in a way that I
Speaker 2: think it's probably the best thing to happen to both
Speaker 2: of them, where they're kind of like, yeah, no one's
Speaker 2: really talking about like how fucked up we actually are
Speaker 2: as like business people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess it's. Yeah, it's a mess. It
Speaker 1: just feels like we we now live in I think
Speaker 1: our first story is going to be about this that
Speaker 1: like the what what is happening in the media is
Speaker 1: completely cut off from any reality, so it's just like
Speaker 1: a a factor of like what what people want essentially. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like a wish fulfillment machine. So uh are right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back, And uh I wanted to talk about
Speaker 1: the Little Tay death hoax because you know, it was
Speaker 1: just this wild thing. If you don't know, littl Tay
Speaker 1: was like a nine year old influencer who was like
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: And now with Bad Barbie and like all of them,
Speaker 2: and was known as like the youngest flex her thing
Speaker 2: was like, I'm the youngest flexer on Instagram. She was
Speaker 2: like money phoning and like with luxury vehicles, had a
Speaker 2: wild ass mouth and people were like, what the fuck
Speaker 2: is this thing?
Speaker 3: And then faded into obscurity pretty quick.
Speaker 1: She just like stopped posting twenty eighteen, and then there
Speaker 1: was this post that was like she and her brother
Speaker 1: died kind of suddenly and we're dealing with the grief
Speaker 1: and the trauma. And it got reported out like it
Speaker 1: was a Instagram post, but like the La Times, we're
Speaker 1: willing to report it based on the statement.
Speaker 2: Despite getting this Insider even reported if I fell for that.
Speaker 1: The BBC didn't. And there's there's a good thread from
Speaker 1: the journalist who was in charge of chasing it down
Speaker 1: that I just want to read real quick, like I'll
Speaker 1: read from it. He was like, yeah, that was like
Speaker 1: my job to report this. They were like, okay, you
Speaker 1: know this is apparently happening. Can you find out, like
Speaker 1: do the back background checking, And so he reached out
Speaker 1: to her management. Her management didn't reply. He reached out
Speaker 1: to the police. The police didn't reply. Uh. There there
Speaker 1: were alarm bells ringing for me because the social media
Speaker 1: page had been inactive for five years. I also contacted
Speaker 1: multiple police forces, both in the US and in Canada,
Speaker 1: where I'll say had links with No police were aware
Speaker 1: of the death. I did this via email as well
Speaker 1: as on the phone. There were a lot of questions,
Speaker 1: and from teenplus years of experience, press officers often give
Speaker 1: more information on background when it's not in writing. But
Speaker 1: there's no information on background, No police force was aware
Speaker 1: of any incident, so he just didn't write about it.
Speaker 3: Therefore could not say this may have been a thing
Speaker 3: that happened.
Speaker 1: Yes, And it's just it's basically being like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is what journalism is. I called her family, I called
Speaker 1: local police. I couldn't find any evidence that it was true,
Speaker 1: so he didn't report it. It's just one of those
Speaker 1: like invisible things that happens behind the scenes that prevents
Speaker 1: our entire world of information from dissolving into chaos. It
Speaker 1: doesn't need to happen, like, nobody's making money off of
Speaker 1: it in the United States, and therefore it's not going
Speaker 1: to happen in the United States, right right, So what
Speaker 1: people are making money off of is whatever the story
Speaker 1: is that's going to be the most sensational, which is
Speaker 1: that this child has died, and y.
Speaker 2: And one too that has like a really dark backstory.
Speaker 2: Like I I'm personally I became obsessed with Lil Tay
Speaker 2: when she first came out because I was like, what
Speaker 2: is this little girl doing out here, like not in school,
Speaker 2: clearly being put up to like do this performative shit
Speaker 2: talking on Instagram. And then like when you dig deep,
Speaker 2: like there was like reports that her mother, who's a
Speaker 2: real estate agent, was like using these homes that she
Speaker 2: was showing as a real estate agent to provide like
Speaker 2: the backdrop of like perceived wealth for these posts. Uh,
Speaker 2: and was getting in trouble. Then there was all these
Speaker 2: like reports about like abuse from her like her parents
Speaker 2: and not like her father being like a like a
Speaker 2: villainous character here. And so even when this happened too,
Speaker 2: this was like another thing where people like just with
Speaker 2: the little bits of information that were out there, like
Speaker 2: a lot of people are like, oh my god, this
Speaker 2: makes so much sense when you couple that with the
Speaker 2: thing you've heard about her family and this that and
Speaker 2: the other, and like her brother taking over the account
Speaker 2: and them not wanting the brother to be able to
Speaker 2: control the account, and like people were saying like it
Speaker 2: was like a murder suicide and shit, yeah, it's wild
Speaker 2: how quickly it just goes off the rails. And what's
Speaker 2: funny is I remember going on Reddit when this was
Speaker 2: like this story came out.
Speaker 3: Because I was like, what the fuck are people talking about?
Speaker 2: And the lack of media literacy from people on the
Speaker 2: internet is I'm I shouldn't be surprised, but my god,
Speaker 2: there are people Someone said, you know, it could have
Speaker 2: been a murder suicide, and someone's like, you really need
Speaker 2: to post, like you shouldn't just say that, you need
Speaker 2: to post an article that like actually reinforces this, otherwise
Speaker 2: what you're doing is really reckless. That person then posts
Speaker 2: a link from s NBC dot com.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh yeah, so that's like at an S class
Speaker 1: of CNBC.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: It's like the luxury vehicle version.
Speaker 3: Oh you a C class NBC and I'm in that.
Speaker 3: I'm in a my bach NBC.
Speaker 2: Actually, uh but like the but then people are like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: thank you, and.
Speaker 5: I'm like I was looking at that shit, I'm like,
Speaker 5: this is not even that's somebody using your visual habit
Speaker 5: of making sense of s NBC or MSNBC to think
Speaker 5: that that's a real link.
Speaker 2: The website was total garbage, and then people were like
Speaker 2: again like yeah, wow, so sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're also headed for like I think this
Speaker 1: is the way that AI is going to actually upend
Speaker 1: things in the near future, Like is that I mean
Speaker 1: AI is going to be flooding the zone with shit
Speaker 1: to quote fucking Steve Bannon. And the media is just
Speaker 1: as small and underfunded as it's been in like decades,
Speaker 1: and so it just feels like our reality perceiving apparatus
Speaker 1: is about to like is in danger of breaking down
Speaker 1: in some crazy ways. And oh yeah, I mean there's
Speaker 1: all sorts of I feel like we're going to see
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot more people like like death
Speaker 1: announces because this got a ton of attention. So like
Speaker 1: people who are trying to I don't know, manipulate or
Speaker 1: get funding.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you could prompt chat gpt to to create
Speaker 2: a scandal based off of existing like scandals already surrounding
Speaker 2: a person of interest and like ask it to then
Speaker 2: just continue that to the next step, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, And then from there it is like in
Speaker 2: the same way, it's just going to prey upon what
Speaker 2: people kind.
Speaker 3: Of half know about someone and then you just.
Speaker 2: Kind of connect all these dots and like oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: of course, of course, of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Clint Eastwood used to fucking eat horseheads.
Speaker 2: That's like his thing, although allegedly, allegedly, allegedly alleged.
Speaker 1: Everyone I spoke to is very helpful and professional, but
Speaker 1: there was nothing I couldn't confirm little Tayaner brother had died,
Speaker 1: and so BBC News couldn't report it. That's that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Did La Times say anything like as like after they reported,
Speaker 2: and we're like, here's I guess they're her manager from before.
Speaker 1: But this is like a social media the manager of
Speaker 1: a social media personality, so like it's just you know,
Speaker 1: it's not like an official person was I guess saying
Speaker 1: like he was like there's no way it was actually hackers,
Speaker 1: like he was blaming them for it or whatever. But
Speaker 1: I mean, just the very boring legwork of talking to
Speaker 1: people is what stands between us and utter chasts. And
Speaker 1: I can't imagine there are enough people out there doing it,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: No, especially like a not a story like this too,
Speaker 2: where right people like yeah, yeah, probably all right, cool.
Speaker 1: Printed yeah, all right, let's let's talk about the Maui fire, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it you know, it's surpassed the twenty eighteen campfire
Speaker 1: in terms of death and destruction.
Speaker 2: Which I had no fucking idea that that that's what
Speaker 2: it was. But like, you know, before that was, like
Speaker 2: you know, everyone was like the Camp twenty eighteen campfire
Speaker 2: just rushed through that community, destroyed everything.
Speaker 3: But yeah, i'd know idea that.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's being said enough first of all,
Speaker 2: but the Mali fire, that's like, I mean, people are
Speaker 2: saying it, but like it it definitely takes a backseat
Speaker 2: to a lot of their reporting. The reason I bring
Speaker 2: this up because it just, you know, shocker American colony
Speaker 2: receives fuck all after disaster. And I know Hawaii is
Speaker 2: a state, but like, let's be real, the way it's treated,
Speaker 2: it's like it's off the mainland. It's it gets some
Speaker 2: attention only when it benefits the United States, like for
Speaker 2: military installations or tourism.
Speaker 3: But you know, when you.
Speaker 2: Look at it, there's a lot of stories about like
Speaker 2: how the people of Maui are.
Speaker 3: Like resilient to the point that like you think, like
Speaker 3: they need no help.
Speaker 2: They've come together, and like now this story is just
Speaker 2: about a matter of them getting back on their feet.
Speaker 3: But when you listen to the people.
Speaker 2: Who live there who are affected the most, they've been
Speaker 2: screaming about a lack of assistance from the government. There
Speaker 2: are plenty of everyday volunteers obviously that have been like
Speaker 2: sufficiently motivated to help out their fellow neighbors. But the
Speaker 2: biggest complaint, and the most consistent complaint of from residents
Speaker 2: is that the federal response is fucking lacking, especially when
Speaker 2: you have you got so much fucking military infrastructure right
Speaker 2: over there in Oahu, Like, uh, what the fuck is
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 2: And so the most I was saw over the weekend
Speaker 2: was fucking Oprah's ass inserting herself in the narrative because
Speaker 2: she tried to bring a fucking camera crew into an
Speaker 2: evacuee shelter.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Luckily, the officials there were like, oh, yeah, we have
Speaker 2: a policy of like not exploiting people's fucking tragedy, Like,
Speaker 2: so you can't bring a fucking camera crew in here,
Speaker 2: and you're fucking for real. So she had to settle
Speaker 2: for like a dramatic fucking monologue in the parking lot
Speaker 2: where she talked about, oh everything she's seen. Meanwhile, a
Speaker 2: lot of people are pissed because they're like, you bought
Speaker 2: so much land on Maui that like fuck you, like
Speaker 2: you should have Like you're displacing people just with your
Speaker 2: wealth and the amount of land you're buying, which is
Speaker 2: like a huge thing already with with uh, like Mainlanders
Speaker 2: coming to Hawaii. The Wall Street Journal had a piece
Speaker 2: that was just sort of like praising the locals, like
Speaker 2: for quote.
Speaker 3: Not going anywhere. They're not going anywhere type of shit.
Speaker 1: And it's like of like a story. You get the
Speaker 1: hopeful stories out there first, so the people are willing
Speaker 1: to read.
Speaker 2: And like, I don't know, this playbook is so fucking
Speaker 2: consistent like of obscuring the scale of suffering, like especially
Speaker 2: when the affected group is not predominantly white, or if
Speaker 2: the event happens like off the mainland, like you know,
Speaker 2: look at like Puerto Rico. Yeah, it's the same thing
Speaker 2: like that. So it was a night like this Hawaii
Speaker 2: was had their eyes set upon it by Americans there like.
Speaker 3: Hey, mamb some fucking sugar off this shit. Do a
Speaker 3: lot of shit with this motherfucker if we annexit.
Speaker 2: And what's also really interesting is like because like the
Speaker 2: way Hawaii has evolved over time, it's like been it's
Speaker 2: been turned into this like tourist trap essentially, where all
Speaker 2: of the resources and opportunity go towards those money making endeavors.
Speaker 3: And on Maui.
Speaker 2: Specifically, a lot of people have talked about like water right,
Speaker 2: those are all being prioritized for, like the resorts and
Speaker 2: the tourist areas, and it's causing like drought conditions that
Speaker 2: only exacerbated that fucking fire right.
Speaker 3: So it's like a very deep you.
Speaker 2: Know, colonization was rearing its head again even with this story,
Speaker 2: although at all the reporting is like, oh, the people
Speaker 2: of Maui, you're coming together, or like you hear these
Speaker 2: anecdotal stories where people like we were there on vacation
Speaker 2: and like what we saw from the locals brought us
Speaker 2: to tears rather than like it's bringing me to tears
Speaker 2: with how we're turning our backs on people we call
Speaker 2: quote unquote American. Because then then like there's also another
Speaker 2: dark element too of like the areas that were burned down,
Speaker 2: Like a lot of wealthy people have been looking to
Speaker 2: buy that land, but locals didn't want to sell, and
Speaker 2: now because of their situation, like they may be more
Speaker 2: motivated to now sell that land because of the fire.
Speaker 3: It's like so it's like tragedy upon tragedy.
Speaker 2: But you know that a lot of the reporting would
Speaker 2: have you think it's like, man, it's okay, folks, just
Speaker 2: go back to everything.
Speaker 3: It's not a not a climate disaster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is a thing that happens, like people. People
Speaker 1: do take care of each other, like on a local level,
Speaker 1: like in a in inspiring ways in these climate disasters.
Speaker 1: And I think there's probably always going to be a
Speaker 1: tendency of the mainstream media to try and just use
Speaker 1: that to like paper over the enormous failings that also happen,
Speaker 1: right because this government is not designed for anything other
Speaker 1: than commerce, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, or just being like okay, you want that land,
Speaker 2: all right, we'll keep them out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, ok got you, got you, We got you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, let's take another quick break and we'll
Speaker 1: come back and talk some gop political bullshit and rapping
Speaker 1: and rapping. There's some rapping, guys.
Speaker 6: Don't worry, You've got the hip hop episode.
Speaker 1: And we're back and yeah, super producer Brian give us
Speaker 1: a fun game name a disaster in which the federal
Speaker 1: government responded appropriately.
Speaker 2: I was like Midwest tornadoes, they seem to see more
Speaker 2: boots on the ground there. But I think in terms,
Speaker 2: I think that does hold. But it's like almost like
Speaker 2: an act of hostility when we're talking about affected groups
Speaker 2: that do not fit the stereotypical victim that Garner's sympathy
Speaker 2: in this country.
Speaker 1: So there are rumors that Fannie Willis will finally be
Speaker 1: laying the indictment hammered down this week.
Speaker 2: Twelve counts apparently twelve indictments twelve, so that twelve. I
Speaker 2: wonder who are these lucky contestants who were get caught
Speaker 2: up in this?
Speaker 3: Is Lindsey Graham one of them, because I'm curious what
Speaker 3: the fuck he starts doing when you like, it's not fair?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's like the big legal uh drama that
Speaker 2: we we were looking forward to. But there's also like
Speaker 2: some polling that just I just bring this up because
Speaker 2: it's like the the conflict of Republicans is that they're
Speaker 2: basically saying, like we kind of need Trump on the
Speaker 2: ballot in twenty twenty four or down ballot people are fucked,
Speaker 2: like utterly fucked.
Speaker 3: They noticed that like in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: The Trump voters were the main reason they were able
Speaker 2: to take back the House, and they noticed when Trump
Speaker 2: is on the ballot, he's like it the rural vote
Speaker 2: and begins to fucking tank, right, And so it's just
Speaker 2: interesting where they're like, you have one group of people
Speaker 2: be like, I mean, I don't know what's going to
Speaker 2: happen without him on the ballot, and other people were like,
Speaker 2: it's when he's on the ballot, we're losing things like
Speaker 2: the Senate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just I don't know, it's a very interesting
Speaker 3: place they're caught in. Uh. Who would have thought.
Speaker 1: He's definitely their only hope at this point, right, they don't.
Speaker 1: There's no support for anyone else. I mean, there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of support for the Democratic side either, but there's.
Speaker 3: No I mean, it's doubly bad over there.
Speaker 2: We're also like their whole thing is like there they
Speaker 2: have to reppin all their hopes on a guy who's
Speaker 2: gonna be like indicted more times than you could even
Speaker 2: be president, you know what I mean, So that that's
Speaker 2: the person that they have to be like, fuck man,
Speaker 2: I guess like the quotes in this like Hill like
Speaker 2: article are like some people just throwing their hands up
Speaker 2: where they're like, I don't know. I mean, like, I
Speaker 2: guess he's just gonna have to be the fucking nominee,
Speaker 2: Like that's just the only only have at this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's some people people people climb in the charts, though,
Speaker 2: right Jack, Yeah, Well, we.
Speaker 1: Got somebody who's going headed for number one with a bullet,
Speaker 1: vivek Ramaswami, who's been consistently like there was a lot
Speaker 1: of stories about him in the past few weeks because
Speaker 1: he surged to being a distant third in most polls
Speaker 1: behind Trump and DeSantis. So still like very very you know,
Speaker 1: as we've talked about DeSantis is like, you know, his
Speaker 1: campaign is being covered as like pretty pretty dead at
Speaker 1: this point, and this person is pulling behind him. But
Speaker 1: he has like differentiated himself from the you know, the
Speaker 1: Pence detritus, you know, like all the other candidates who
Speaker 1: so I guess the numbers are like he's at six
Speaker 1: point one percent, Trump's at fifty four percent, desantus fifteen,
Speaker 1: but like he's ahead of Mike Pence, who was the
Speaker 1: Vice President of the United States. I believe fairly recently,
Speaker 1: Nicky Hayley is at three point four, Tim Scott's at
Speaker 1: two point eight, Chris Christy two point six, and yeah
Speaker 1: so and like some composite polls show him even higher.
Speaker 1: So like guy, yeah, yeah. Well that's the thing is
Speaker 1: that like a lot of people were a fan of
Speaker 1: his even before they saw his secret fastball, which is
Speaker 1: the man's got bars. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He was at the Iowa State Fair doing the fair
Speaker 2: side chats and he's just Tonlet y'all know, my man
Speaker 2: has the mic in his hand and he is rocking
Speaker 2: the crowd.
Speaker 3: Listen to this. The worst won't come out.
Speaker 1: He's joking.
Speaker 5: Happen.
Speaker 1: Everybody's joking.
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, we can't do more because I remember they
Speaker 2: got mad at us when we did even remember when
Speaker 2: they got mad at us for doing spaghetti that all spaghetti.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like the sweepers were like by copyright on Yeah.
Speaker 3: Actually we might even get burned for that. Anyway.
Speaker 2: My man is off the beat karaokeing Lose Yourself by
Speaker 2: Eminem as a serious presidential candidate, and it's terrible.
Speaker 1: He's like hunched over in the like trying to like
Speaker 1: he's doing the thing that you see rappers do sometimes
Speaker 1: where they're like, you know, the touching the front row,
Speaker 1: like you know, just feeling the energy of the crowd,
Speaker 1: but like there's nobody for him to touch like that.
Speaker 1: Everyone's just kind of standing around, very confused. It's not
Speaker 1: an impressive it's like a oh shit, I have to
Speaker 1: karaoke this. Okay, yeah, I think I remember that song level,
Speaker 1: you know, engagement, performance, command of the song. But apparently
Speaker 1: this is like his song. He is like a thing
Speaker 1: he's been doing since college. So when in college and
Speaker 1: you're I do apologize in advance because the sentence is
Speaker 1: going to take like a month at least off of
Speaker 1: my life just saying it. He was a libertarian minded
Speaker 1: rap artist. Oh fu and Jesus Christ. Lose Yourself was
Speaker 1: a favorite of his at Harvard open Mic Nights.
Speaker 3: Wow, unheard that? What was he wrapping? Under Shine?
Speaker 1: Rand dovec DA and oh yeah, it's probably.
Speaker 2: Oh hip hop up black people. They turn it to
Speaker 2: the oh he's.
Speaker 3: The vec wow okay to vac Well, go on what else?
Speaker 3: What el?
Speaker 2: What other songs do you got? Apparently that's the only
Speaker 2: song he does. That's the only song that's it.
Speaker 1: And there's actually footage of him performing it back in college,
Speaker 1: and it's like way worse than what you just heard.
Speaker 1: He's like doing more off the beat. He's like breathless
Speaker 1: and trying to like catch up the whole time.
Speaker 3: Alright, do we chance it?
Speaker 1: I think we got to play a little bit of it.
Speaker 3: Curious sense, he said, if you don't have bunch.
Speaker 2: Yourself, okay, never nope, nope, nope, no nope, no no.
Speaker 1: No no no, I would rather not.
Speaker 3: God, this guy has no sense of rhythm. You better
Speaker 3: lose yourself from music the moment you want it. You
Speaker 3: better never let it go.
Speaker 2: Unity So there's a lifetime, you better lose yourself.
Speaker 1: It's truly like you couldn't fuck it up harder if
Speaker 1: you're trying.
Speaker 3: I bet the bar is fucking low at Harvard Open Mics.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for rap.
Speaker 2: This is what happens. This is what happens without affirmative action.
Speaker 2: There's not a sufficient number of black people to fucking
Speaker 2: boo this bullshit. And shame of de vec Into just
Speaker 2: going to fucking study econ or some shit and then
Speaker 2: you know, becoming a consultant who sucks up the world,
Speaker 2: not a presidential candidate.
Speaker 1: Like how does he like just in a from just
Speaker 1: a completely I'm trying to like perceived this as a
Speaker 1: reality that he did that on a Harvard stage in college,
Speaker 1: and rather than being like one of the most embarrassing
Speaker 1: moments of his life that made him never want to
Speaker 1: do anything on stage again, it gave him the confidence
Speaker 1: to keep performing this song in front of other actual
Speaker 1: human beings and like think that he should run for president.
Speaker 1: Like the only thing I can conceive of is that,
Speaker 1: like his group of friends at Harvard were like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's that movie Yesterday where like the whole Beatles catalog
Speaker 1: like doesn't exist, and then this guy just becomes a
Speaker 1: famous artist by like just playing Beatles song. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like his group of friends, like all the like
Speaker 1: legacy Harvard people just had hadn't even heard of rap music,
Speaker 1: and like that was the first thing that they had
Speaker 1: ever seen. And that's the only way that it makes
Speaker 1: sense to me. He's like, Yeah, look at this thing
Speaker 1: I just invented.
Speaker 2: It's actually Eric. Eric checked this rhyme. I just wrote,
Speaker 2: don't you want to grow up to be just like me?
Speaker 2: I tie a rope from my penis and jump from
Speaker 2: a tree. What do you think about that?
Speaker 3: Whoa fucking bars, dude, are you not even in law school?
Speaker 2: And that's bars, But that person would not be reacting
Speaker 2: like that anyway. But I love like how he his
Speaker 2: when he's actually talked about his love for the song.
Speaker 2: That quote, when he's like, well, what is it about
Speaker 2: it that it connects with you? This one says quote
Speaker 2: he's growing up in the in the trailers. This is
Speaker 2: already like you're so far removed from it. It's like
Speaker 2: the trailers is what you call. Okay, he's growing up
Speaker 2: in the trailers with a single mom and he wants
Speaker 2: to make it. He's going to use that moment to
Speaker 2: do it. He feels like he's going to use the
Speaker 2: moment to do it. He seizes it and then he
Speaker 2: makes it happen. And I thought it was a pretty
Speaker 2: cool story.
Speaker 3: That's that's him now he sees in it. You know,
Speaker 3: I get it, just.
Speaker 1: The most surface level read of the situation of what
Speaker 1: the what the song is.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised to not calling himself like v Rabbit or something. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like really going like really going there with it.
Speaker 1: H Well, there, you know, there there may be hope, Gop,
Speaker 1: you might not need Trump. That was that was pretty dope.
Speaker 1: The The reaction from the crowd was pretty just that.
Speaker 1: There were a couple of plants obviously who were holding
Speaker 1: up their phone and being like yes, But for the
Speaker 1: most part, there were there was a lot of just
Speaker 1: standing bolt upright, kind of turning away from the stage
Speaker 1: right and uh, some people like actually turning their back
Speaker 1: to the stage, like just out of sheer, you know, human.
Speaker 3: Survival, like secondhand embarrassment.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, What would.
Speaker 2: You do, Jack, if you were if you're a presidential candidate, Like,
Speaker 2: if this this really actually could be a new thing,
Speaker 2: I should really consider this at the state fair when
Speaker 2: presidential candidates come, they have to do a rap They
Speaker 2: have to spit a rap song on.
Speaker 1: Stage, right. I mean it's actually really interesting when you
Speaker 1: think about it, you know, because like in that song,
Speaker 1: he's growing up in the trailers.
Speaker 2: In the trailer single, is he thinking the trailers is
Speaker 2: like the projects?
Speaker 3: Is that what he's doing? Wow, Vivid, come.
Speaker 2: On now, I know you had a good life in Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: but just learn how to speak to people a little
Speaker 2: bit more accurately than that.
Speaker 1: What would your song be the.
Speaker 2: It would I don't know, probably something like like a subverse,
Speaker 2: like I don't know, like a most deaf song like
Speaker 2: mathematics or got you know, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: know what I would do. No, Brian's just said immortal tech. No,
Speaker 2: I'm not spitting immortal technic lyrics with the devil. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what I know. That's what he means, even when
Speaker 2: you just by if folking immortal technique. But yeah, maybe
Speaker 2: maybe I would spit dance with the devil if I
Speaker 2: would stay fair to be like, this guy is demonic
Speaker 2: and we actually need to call the police because I
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 3: And we love it folks, don't we? Yes, you probably do,
Speaker 3: Wu tang. Would you just like clan in the front literally.
Speaker 1: They are Yeah, I was thinking, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Just like the idea clan in the front, not in
Speaker 2: the bags.
Speaker 3: All right, alright, alright, why.
Speaker 1: Those are some of the things that we're trending over
Speaker 1: the weekend. We are back tomorrow with a whole ass
Speaker 1: episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other,
Speaker 1: be kind to yourselves, get sex, and don't know nothing
Speaker 1: about white supremacy, and we will talk to you all tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Bye bye.