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Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Draft, a weekly preview of the

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Speaker 1: upcoming NFL Draft with insiders from around the country.

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Speaker 2: This is Jeffrey Gorman coming to you live from the

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Speaker 2: Indiana Union Construction Industry Studios. Inside the Draft, joined by

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Speaker 2: Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts, Casey Bala also here today, guys,

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft Day. It is Thursday, that first rounder and

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Speaker 2: of course the second third rounds on Friday, Nytaire, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna be a busy man, mate, Not that you're not Casey,

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Speaker 2: but mate, what do you got on Thursday? What he

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Speaker 2: got on Friday?

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Speaker 3: Well, we're all doing the Draft show coming up tonight

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Speaker 3: tonight first round Thursday night. We'll be up at Top

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Speaker 3: Golf all night long until the end of the first round,

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Speaker 3: up at the Colts season ticket member party Top Golf

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Speaker 3: up in Fishers. Will all be there. Rick Van Turrey

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Speaker 3: is going to be the star of the show. Open

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Speaker 3: up that noggin of his and let all that draft

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Speaker 3: knowledge just come spewing out. That the draft show that

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Speaker 3: we do is a Colts talk show with the draft

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Speaker 3: in the background. Context of the draft.

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Speaker 4: Come on in.

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Speaker 3: How do all these players relate to the teams that

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Speaker 3: they're being picked up by. How do they relate to

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Speaker 3: the Colts. How do these selections in front of the

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Speaker 3: Colts impact their draft board. It's it's a big Colts

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Speaker 3: dialogue and I think the diehards love it. It's gonna

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Speaker 3: be streamed on Colts dot Com and the Colts Mobile

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Speaker 3: app and then on tonight ninety three five and one

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Speaker 3: oh seven five of the Fan Tomorrow night, because of

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Speaker 3: Pacer coverage, we're gonna air on ninety three WYBC until

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Speaker 3: the end of the third round and then once the

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Speaker 3: pacers are over, the fan will pick back up radio wise.

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Speaker 3: But just to keep it simple, to keep it clean,

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Speaker 3: we're streaming all weekend long on the Colts website, Colts

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Speaker 2: And Casey Vale also, we know you're what you bring

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Speaker 2: to this table, and those are those one on one

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Speaker 2: closed door meetings with general manager Chris Ballard. So what

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Speaker 2: are we doing? What do we got going in this

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Speaker 1: Case in order for me to continue to have those

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Speaker 1: one on one closed door meeting, I can't tell.

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Speaker 2: You anything, absolutely nothing, Casey, you'll be up there top well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll be bringing you two days and then of course

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Speaker 2: updates as far as the third conclusion day of the

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft on Saturday. Fellows, let's talk some football and

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Speaker 2: some draft. This gentleman is responsible for Randy Moss. Okay,

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Speaker 2: how about that. This man is responsible for the likes

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Speaker 2: of John Randall. I'm talking about Minnesota Viking Greats bringing

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Speaker 2: in Jeff Diamond, former VP and general manager of the

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Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings and former president and COO of the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 2: He's a former NFL Executive of the Year. He went

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Speaker 2: fifteen and one one year. Don't forget nineteen ninety eight

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Speaker 2: with those Vikings. We bring in Jeff Diamond. Jeff, we

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Speaker 2: appreciate you being here today.

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Speaker 4: Hey, thanks guys, always happy to join you.

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Speaker 2: I love talking to you about this because why your

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Speaker 2: boots are muddy. You've been there. You've been in those

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Speaker 2: war rooms, You've been in those draft weekends that have happened.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna ask you this, with this upcoming draft,

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Speaker 2: with the amount of quarterbacks that seem to be rising

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Speaker 2: in this first round, do you see some trades happening

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Speaker 2: across the board and what are they?

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Speaker 4: Jeff, Oh, I definitely see of trades. I think it

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Speaker 4: could be a record year for trades, and not only

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Speaker 4: involving quarterbacks, but I think and draft picks flip flopping

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Speaker 4: salary cap issues for the future. Look at a team

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Speaker 4: like Denver, for example, with that Russell Wilson albatross that

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Speaker 4: they've got the eighty five million dollars dead money, and

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Speaker 4: that's a team that could could well want to trade

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Speaker 4: to get JJ mccarthya Drake May for example, and they

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Speaker 4: could trade, for example, an all pro corner and Patrick

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Speaker 4: And so I think you're going to see teams jocking

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Speaker 4: So I definitely look for the Vikings after they made

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Speaker 4: He's got a bunch of dead money, so they're not

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Speaker 4: then more position players fall to a team such as

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Speaker 4: fascinating draft. I think it's going to be one of

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Speaker 1: Now, Jeff, I want to stay there. I know we're

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Speaker 1: talking colts here, mainly Colts obviously don't have that knee

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Speaker 1: you know, the Heisman Trophy winner, and then now JJ

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Speaker 1: who's going to go number two?

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Speaker 1: JJ mcca arthy could be too. Where is all of

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Speaker 1: of this stuff. What do we read into this with

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Speaker 1: the essentially Kayleb william is your number one, but then

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Speaker 1: after that, it's a it's a like a week quarterback

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it's a pretty strong quarterback class, Okay, man,

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Speaker 4: in that next year's draft at quarterback does not look

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Speaker 4: really attractive, as the Colts know with Anthony Richardson. When

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Speaker 4: salary caps situation immensely. So I do think it's a

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Speaker 4: And as we've seen, it's pretty rare that top quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: but Kirk Cousins was the premier guy this year, and

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Speaker 4: think what's really fascinating you look at what has happened

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Zach Wilson exactly, ex.

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Speaker 4: Wilson is moving on. So you had five first round

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Speaker 4: Zach Wilson's been traded, Trey Lance has gone, Justson Fields,

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Speaker 4: I think that that's kind of what the culture thinking

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Speaker 4: last year with Anthony Richardson. He's got great potential, but

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Speaker 4: little bit of a washout. Now he's almost a rookie again,

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Speaker 3: Jeff Diamond is our guest, former VP and GM of

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Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings, former president of the Tennessee Titans, as well,

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Speaker 3: former NFL Executive of the Year, always gracious enough to

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Speaker 3: before the draft, and I want you to put that

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Speaker 3: GM back on, Jeff. How do you know this is

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Speaker 3: a general question. I know it's loaded, but how do

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Speaker 3: you know when to trade up? What do you need

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Speaker 3: is it where you're at with your roster, is it

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Speaker 3: where you're at with your quarterback? How many things go

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's one of the big changes that

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Speaker 4: I've seen in the draft over the many years that

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Speaker 4: I've either participated in drafts or observed drafts. Through my

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Speaker 4: media work and my NFL agent firm work, is that

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Speaker 4: it used to be really predominantly teams were picking the

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Speaker 4: best player available. And certainly it was a cliche, but

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Speaker 4: really true for especially a lot of the top teams.

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Speaker 4: And I think what's changed in recent years, and maybe

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Speaker 4: I think there's more of a drafting for need, and

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks go early, the wide receivers go early. That's the

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Speaker 2: Former NFL Executive of the Year right there, that's Jeff Diamond.

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Speaker 2: Follow him on Twitter x at Jeff Diamond, NFL coach.

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Speaker 2: I gotta go around your your your career a little

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Speaker 2: That's patients. Then we go another year, Jeff Diamond, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. The Randy Moss situation was really fascinating, and

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Speaker 1: Now, Jeff, I want to go into an area where

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. And you talk about the tight ends today,

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Speaker 3: Too, Jeff. Last one for me again, Jeff Diamond is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you talk about it throughout the draft.

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Speaker 2: here once again so I don't screw up the listener.

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Speaker 2: The thirty third Team dot Com you can find more

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Speaker 2: Jeff Diamond, right there again, former vice president and general

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Speaker 2: manager of the Minnesota Vikings, former president and COO of

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Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans. Feather in your cap on the John

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Speaker 2: Randall thing. I could go another hour on his career,

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Speaker 2: but we don't have time, Jeff, I will say this

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Speaker 2: from an idiot like me in the upper deck. How

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Speaker 2: about this? How about this scenario? Every and I've talked

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Speaker 2: to my cohorts about this, you know, endlessly, and they

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Speaker 2: think I'm crazy, Jeff, So follow me here. Every other

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Speaker 2: year you deal your second and third to move up

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Speaker 2: in the first. Every other year you deal your second

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Speaker 2: and third to move up in the first. Is this arithmetic?

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Speaker 2: Is that doable? Is it possible to have something like

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Speaker 2: that where you're going up for premiere, superstar, game changing

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Speaker 2: players and every other year you're dealing the middle of

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Speaker 2: your draft.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's a little dangerous because you're gonna there.

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Speaker 4: There were really good players in the second and third round,

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Speaker 4: and sometimes those players don't come in with quite the arrogance,

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Speaker 4: shall we say, of a first round pick, and maybe

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Speaker 4: maybe more drive and so as I always liked keeping

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Speaker 4: my second and third and even fourth round picks but

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Speaker 4: as you said, if there's somebody worth moving up for,

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Speaker 4: then you should do it. And because one thing we know,

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Speaker 4: there are probably eight to ten really blue chip players

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Speaker 4: in every draft, and I talk about boot Chep, I'm

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Speaker 4: talking in future all pro type players. And so if

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Speaker 4: you have an opportunity to get one of those guys

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Speaker 4: at and certainly a key part of that is going

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Speaker 4: to be our four quarterbacks is going to go in

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Speaker 4: the first five picks. As I said, that pushes down

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Speaker 4: some really great position players and so then you take

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Speaker 4: a shot at some of those guys, and that's what

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Speaker 4: really makes the draft fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, well, great stuff. As usual, we could talk for hours.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Diamond, former VP and general manager of the Vikings

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Speaker 2: and the Tennessee Titans again the thirty third team dot com.

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Speaker 2: If you want to read what Jeff's having to talk

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Speaker 2: about this upcoming draft, find it from a guy who's

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Speaker 2: been behind the curtain and ran draft rooms.

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Speaker 4: That is you.

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Speaker 3: Jd.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate the time as always, your one one in a

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Speaker 2: million pal. I love talking to you.

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Speaker 4: Hey, thanks, guys, I really appreciate it all the best.

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Speaker 4: And we'll be watching the Colts during the draft and

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Speaker 4: see what they come up with this year.