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Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Kalia Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome into a Wednesday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Here on a Saga Wednesday in Western New York. Team

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Speaker 2: is inside practicing as a result today. Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 2: Tasker here with you as per usual, and there are

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Speaker 2: some developments with respect to the roster, which we will

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Speaker 2: get to in just a second. And you know, walking

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Speaker 2: our office, Steve. Yeah, we have to go in through

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Speaker 2: a specified entrance per New League security policies, right, so

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Speaker 2: we can.

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Speaker 3: Only go in the front door, and so does all

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Speaker 3: the media. That's right, So it's not just us.

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Speaker 2: We had that walk around the building into the front door.

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Speaker 2: Because for those of you that come out to home games,

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Speaker 2: you know that our studio is right at the front

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Speaker 2: door of the Bill's field House.

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Speaker 3: On the end of the field house right.

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Speaker 2: Now, we usually enter the building that way. We can't

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Speaker 2: use that door, can't use that door upon first entry

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Speaker 2: into the building. So it's all for our safety, so

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Speaker 2: we respect it. But I know in January when I

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Speaker 2: have to take the long walk out the front of

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Speaker 2: the building, I'm gonna be gritting my teeth. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: gonna be something. So there it is.

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Speaker 3: We've got to get to the small Denton a.

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Speaker 2: Minor inconvenience if anything, but we do want to get

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Speaker 2: the Bills notes to you though. As we said, Bills

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Speaker 2: are back on the practice field today. Head coach Sean

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Speaker 2: McDermott provided an update on Buffalo's injury list, not practicing

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Speaker 2: and listed as week to week or defensive tackle Da

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Speaker 2: Kwon Jones with the calf injury, Joshua Palmer with the

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Speaker 2: ankle injury. Jones got hurt right before the Atlanta game

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Speaker 2: and pregame warmups. Palmer got hurt in the first half

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Speaker 2: and did not return. Also not practicing today, safety Tailor

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Speaker 2: he has been dealing with for some time. So apparently

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Speaker 2: his performance on the field. As we know, he's had

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Speaker 2: a high missed tackle rate in the six games that

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Speaker 2: to week. They're still trying to gather some more information.

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Speaker 2: Limited in practice today, Dalton Kincaid with the oblique, Curtis

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Speaker 2: to exit from the Atlanta game in Week six as well.

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Speaker 2: Max Harston going through his first game installation practice today

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Speaker 2: after practicing on Monday with the team. That was the

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Speaker 2: extra day the Bills had coming off the bye week,

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Speaker 2: and of course Michael Hoyt and Larry Ogunjobi back practicing

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Speaker 2: with the team off suspension. So that's kind of the

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Speaker 2: full run of it. And I would say coach when

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Speaker 2: asked you know about Hoyt and Ogunjobi and Harriston for

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Speaker 2: that matter, was trying to temper expectations. I don't necessarily

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Speaker 3: Sure, And you don't want that to be his first action.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you almost want him to get his feet wet, yeah,

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Speaker 3: But they'll take it slow. They always they have been methodical,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. As for Hoyt and Ogin, Jobe coach said today

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Speaker 2: So to put them through the paces of a two

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Speaker 2: Hoyt I would think because the diversity he offers, your

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Speaker 3: Will probably be up in place of Landon Jackson or Solomon.

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Speaker 2: So things to keep an eye on through the course

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Speaker 2: of the practice week for the Bills. Let's go around

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Speaker 2: the NFL presented by Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system of

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills and Jayden Daniels, quarterback for the Commanders,

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Speaker 2: is going to miss his team's Monday night game against

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs due to a hamstring injury. So Kansas City

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Speaker 2: has now played the Lions without their top two cornerbacks,

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Speaker 2: and now the Chiefs are going to play the Commanders

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Speaker 2: without their starting quarterback, Marcus Mariota. We'll get the start

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Speaker 2: in Daniel's place. Another break for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the universe seems tilted in their favor.

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Speaker 2: They have a deal with the devil. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how else to explain. Remember when we thought Bill Belichick

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Speaker 2: was Bielzebub. I feel similarly about the Chiefs. The New

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Speaker 2: York Jets reportedly planning a quarterback change, as Justin Fields

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Speaker 2: Tyrod Taylor. Jets owner Woody Johnson, in an interview Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: had plenty of praise for head coach Aaron Glenn for

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Speaker 2: quote turning around parts of the team, but added, it's

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Speaker 2: the remainder of the season. Johnson went on to say

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Speaker 2: the quarterback decision is completely up to Glenn. Tyrod Taylor, however,

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Speaker 2: might not be a choice depending on how Taylor gets

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Speaker 2: opera for the New York Jets. The masters of self sabotage.

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Speaker 3: Murph used to say that he's right it. We always

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Speaker 3: It's just the way it is. And now the Jets

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Speaker 3: he has his limitter, he has his limitations. He did

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Speaker 3: a couple of good things, but your whole organization is

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Speaker 2: Broncos linebacker Drake Greenlaw appealed his one game suspension that

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Speaker 3: You got a brassy set of courage to go chasing

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Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins signed tight end Greg Dulsage to their active

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton said he was hoping to face former quarterback

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Speaker 2: who said, in response to Peyton's preference to play Wilson

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Speaker 2: Wilson said, quote classless but not surprised. Didn't realize you're

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Speaker 2: still bounty hunting. Fifteen plus years later, through the media,

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Speaker 2: he wrote that on X, followed by some laughing emojis

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Speaker 2: and the hashtag Let's Ride, a catchphrase he used at

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Speaker 2: the end of his news conferences while with the Broncos

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Speaker 2: from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three. Wilson was

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Speaker 2: responding to comments made by Peyton after Sunday's game, which

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Speaker 2: the Broncos won with a fourth quarter comeback. Peyton said,

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Speaker 2: I said, we were hoping that change would have happened

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson were like mixing oil and water. They did

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Speaker 2: so yeah, that's still a little sore about probably.

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Speaker 3: Yes, probably not exchanging holiday greeting cards.

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Speaker 2: How about Russell Wilson throwing the bounty gate out there? Hello,

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Speaker 2: that's a real thing, but yeah, digging deep into the

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Speaker 2: past for that one fifteen years Atlanta Falcons Steve sent

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Speaker 2: home Ray Ray McCleod last week and now the wide

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Speaker 2: receiver has been released outright. Falcons coach Raheem Morris described

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Speaker 2: the situation as a private matter between McLeod and the team,

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Speaker 2: said it was not disciplinary in nature necessarily. McLoud was

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Speaker 2: a surprise healthy scratch in Week six against the Bills,

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Speaker 2: then sent home last week for reasons Morris did not divulge,

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Speaker 2: and then was listed as out against the forty nine

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Speaker 2: ers last Sunday. McLeod is a former sixth round draft

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Speaker 2: will Steve, this was interesting. I found this, bless you.

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Speaker 2: I found this was kind of an interesting story. NFL

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Speaker 2: coaches challenges have succeeded twenty percent more often than they

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Speaker 2: did last season due to an under the radar change

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Speaker 2: made this offseason that now allows coaches and club staffers

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Speaker 2: in the coaching booth to view the same camera feed

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Speaker 2: as the replay official at the game. In the replay booth,

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Speaker 2: the replay official has a smaller screen with a working

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Speaker 2: box in the middle of their screen. This according to

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Speaker 2: Mark Butterworth and NFL VP of Replay Training and.

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Speaker 3: Development, what's a working box?

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Speaker 2: Hold on, patient, Steve. Whatever is in the replay officials

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Speaker 2: the choice camera view that he picks, goes to both

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Speaker 2: Coaching challenges are twenty percent more successful this year as

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Speaker 3: Yeah's going for him.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did forget to mention that the Bill's practice

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Speaker 10: Hey, Sean, this came a very good running team and

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Speaker 7: And you get too far ahead of yourself or you

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Speaker 7: So it's integrating some of these new guys who are

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Speaker 6: So that's that's been our approach in the.

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Speaker 3: Are they going to be full participants today?

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Speaker 2: And just kind of immerse right into practice.

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Speaker 6: There'll be full They'll be full participants today.

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Speaker 7: We are trying to, you know, manage some of it

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Speaker 7: just based on them having not been out there.

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Speaker 5: So during the five week self kind of gives you

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Speaker 5: an opportunity to assess the areas where you grow.

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Speaker 4: You tell us in general play are of the.

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Speaker 2: Areas that you think the most opportunity for growth of

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Speaker 2: this team.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I mean there's a lot of area. There's a

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Speaker 7: lot of areas I'm not going to get into because

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Speaker 7: it's it's strategy based. So again, you just look at,

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Speaker 7: you know, the identity of our football team. Have we

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Speaker 7: established ourselves and who we are? You know, as a

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Speaker 7: head coach, that's where you start.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 7: And and then you go from there into what happens

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Speaker 7: on the grass, what we look like, execution detail schematics,

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Speaker 7: how we're using certain personnel. Are we using you know,

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Speaker 7: the right personnel or should we be moving over here

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Speaker 7: a little bit with some using some other personnel. So

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Speaker 7: it's I mean, you name it, we look at it.

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Speaker 7: So that's that's our job and and we owe that

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Speaker 7: to our team, we owe that to the fans.

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Speaker 13: I mean you mentioned that the one thing that you've

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Speaker 13: done the last few games was kind of I think

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Speaker 13: it's thirty over the last three games. Was there a

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Speaker 13: someone on a theme or something you saw or is

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Speaker 13: it different things that when.

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Speaker 4: You back at what happened that need to be corrected.

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Speaker 7: Uh, you know, most of those were what I would say.

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Speaker 7: Where it becomes an issue or a hotspot is some

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Speaker 7: of the holding penalties and then some of the line

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Speaker 7: of scrimmage penalties. So a lot of scrimmage penalties are

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Speaker 7: within our control and that's those are non negotiable. And

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Speaker 7: then the holding penalties are again technique in this case.

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Speaker 6: And controlling what we can control.

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Speaker 7: Get yourself in good position, move your feet, established position,

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Speaker 7: maintain position, and then you get to a certain position

477
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Speaker 7: where you're losing the leverage, then you've got to let go.

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Speaker 7: And you know that's been addressed, it's been looked at.

479
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Speaker 7: The spotlight has been has been shined on that area.

480
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Speaker 7: In particular, and and we have to be better because

481
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Speaker 7: it's impacting offensive drives, it's impacting defensive drives drives as well,

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Speaker 7: and so it's hard to win when you're when you're

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Speaker 7: actually hurting yourself without the offense or the opponent even

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Speaker 7: doing anything.

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Speaker 14: So the Falcons, you guys, elevated Jordan Pointer because of

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Speaker 14: injuries to safety, and obviously he ended up getting in

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Speaker 14: the game. And now you're bringing up some other safety injuries.

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Speaker 11: What did you see from Jordan.

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Speaker 14: In the second half of that game when he was

490
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Speaker 14: out there? And I guess where is the trust level

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Speaker 14: with somebody who obviously knows this defense very very well.

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Speaker 8: From all his time here.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, Jordan wouldn't be back if we didn't

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Speaker 7: have a lot of confidence and trust in him. We

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Speaker 7: still take it one day at a time. We'll see

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Speaker 7: where it goes with t wrap situation. And we have

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Speaker 7: other safeties as well that have been working as well,

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Speaker 7: and we feel confident in as well.

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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna stuff on you there.

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Speaker 5: When you're talking about these topics like identity and self

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Speaker 5: evaluation and growth, what are some what are some position

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Speaker 5: groups or things that you find yourself showing your team

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Speaker 5: and meetings of reminders of this is how we do it,

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Speaker 5: this is what we do. Are there any recurring things.

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Speaker 7: In a positive way you mean? Or yeah, we do

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Speaker 7: that from time to time. You know, different team meetings

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Speaker 7: will do that, or even with the staff will do that,

508
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Speaker 7: say this is this is what we're looking for. This

509
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Speaker 7: is the standard right here. You have to continually do

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Speaker 7: that so guys understand, especially the new players, veterans and

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Speaker 7: young players who are new to us.

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Speaker 6: Hey, this is how this is how we do it.

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Speaker 7: Uh So sometimes you have to go back and re

514
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Speaker 7: establish the standard. You want to You want to do

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Speaker 7: that on the on the forefront of everything and paint

516
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Speaker 7: the picture for everyone both on and off the field

517
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Speaker 7: of what the standard is. That's that's important. And then

518
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Speaker 7: sometimes you got to go back and do it again.

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Speaker 7: And whether it's the standard or it's reteaching fundamentals and

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Speaker 7: techniques as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's hey. Coach Sean McDermot, addressing the media

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Speaker 2: just about an hour ago prior to practice, wanted to

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Speaker 2: bring some of his comments to you. We have to

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Speaker 2: take a break here, but when we come back, we

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Speaker 2: take your phone calls at eight O three zero five

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Speaker 2: fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty. When

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Speaker 2: we return on one Bills Live, presented by Collide Healthy,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on one

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Speaker 2: Bills Live on oh Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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Speaker 2: Phone lines are open in eight oh three h five

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Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight eight five point fifty two five

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Speaker 2: point fifty. That's the number to get on board, and

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Speaker 2: we do have open lines for you. As I said,

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Speaker 2: and discussing anything under the sun, I mean regarding the Bills. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: there's some injury concerns that we're gonna have to monitor

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00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: through the course of the week. Hoyden Nogu Joby back

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Speaker 2: in the fold today as well as Max Hirston, and

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Speaker 2: we'll have to see where his week goes to determine

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Speaker 2: whether or not he is activated to the active roster.

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Speaker 2: The Bills do have an open roster spot two. They

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Speaker 2: had three coming into the week. Two are taken up

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Speaker 2: by Hoyden Nogan Jobi who returned to the active roster.

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Speaker 2: What they do with that third one will be interesting

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Speaker 2: as the week unfolds. But to the phones we go

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Speaker 2: and to Bill in Connecticut to lead us off today.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for his bill?

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Speaker 12: The guys, thanks for having me on the shows.

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Speaker 15: You know.

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Speaker 12: Three things to talk about. One is recently people have

550
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Speaker 12: been clamoring for Gabe to come up, you know, as

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Speaker 12: soon as he's healthy. I'm not in that group. The

552
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Speaker 12: fifty catch rate is a problem as well as I

553
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Speaker 12: think Josh gets more picks trying to get to Gabe

554
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Speaker 12: than maybe to other players. I love what he does

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Speaker 12: for the locker room. Everybody says he's a great guy.

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Speaker 12: From that point of view, I just don't want to

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Speaker 12: see him on the field. Number Two, we've been talking

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Speaker 12: about how to get more juice on the field. I

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Speaker 12: know we talked about, well you want that guy who's gonna,

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Speaker 12: you know, start a fistfight over darts or if there's

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Speaker 12: a fight on the field he's not in it, get

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Speaker 12: in it. We have a guy like that alt the Anderson,

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Speaker 12: and I'm just wondering if we saw more of him.

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Speaker 12: I know it comes at the expense probably of Jackson Hawes,

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Speaker 12: but I wonder if we saw more of him, if

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Speaker 12: we get some of that Jews, because that's certainly his repute.

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Speaker 12: And then finally, I do love the everybody eats. I

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Speaker 12: would like it to be more like last year where

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Speaker 12: everybody eats, but not everybody eats this game, you know,

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Speaker 12: where they find a match up, you know, like like

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Speaker 12: we had in the Detroit game, and they just work

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Speaker 12: that so it doesn't have to be everybody eats every game.

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Speaker 12: So those are my thoughts. I'm looking forward to hearing

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Speaker 12: from you and Z always go Bills.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks Bill, some good thoughts there. I liked

576
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Speaker 2: your last point the most because you're right, everybody does eat,

577
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Speaker 2: but it seemed to be a different guy, you know,

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Speaker 2: getting first getting firsts in a given week. You know

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Speaker 2: it would be to your point, Ty Johnson matched up

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Speaker 2: on linebackers and going for one hundred and fifteen yards

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Speaker 2: against the Lions. Another week, it might be cooked just

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Speaker 2: running the other defense to death, or with a couple

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Speaker 2: of choice run plays that worked uncommonly well against a

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Speaker 2: given opponent. Yeah, Coleman against the Sea Hawks for one

585
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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five yards.

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Speaker 3: Wolman in Week one this year against the Ravens, he

587
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Speaker 3: played well, So that makes a lot of sense to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: some energy, I don't Yeah, I don't think they're willing

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Speaker 3: to make a roster move that would involve taking haws

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Speaker 3: off the field or whatever. I think they like what

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Speaker 3: he gives them. And certainly, yeah, Alec Anderson is one

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Speaker 3: of those finger quotes energetic guys that we talk about

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Speaker 3: who doesn't mind a little confrontation on the field. And

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Speaker 3: of course Brownie and I we made our thoughts about

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Speaker 3: the wide receiver room self evidence as far as Gabe

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Speaker 3: is concerned. So yeah, I get that the everybody each

597
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Speaker 3: thing worked last year because it did kind of rotate.

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Speaker 3: Teams had to decide, and they would and the Bills

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Speaker 3: would exploit their game plan because the Bills had more

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Speaker 3: faith in the guy they left uncovered than their opponent

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Speaker 3: had faith in that guy being able to hurt them,

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Speaker 3: and the Bills were right most of the time.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I would tend to agree with Steve's point

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Speaker 2: on Alec Anderson. You can't prioritize his insertion into the

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Speaker 2: lineup over what you think your best game plan will be,

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Speaker 2: So if he is not part of it, you don't

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Speaker 2: put him on the field solely for juice. To Steve's

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Speaker 2: point that he made earlier this week, if you don't

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Speaker 2: have guys that are juiced up to play every single week,

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Speaker 2: you don't have the right guys, so it requires self

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Speaker 2: motivation from that standpoint, And yes, it would be nice

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Speaker 2: to have guys on the roster that can get other

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Speaker 2: guys juiced up, But most of the time that's got

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Speaker 2: to come from within. And if it doesn't and your

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Speaker 2: play is affected by the lack of it, you're probably

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Speaker 2: gonna find a seat on the bench pretty soon because

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Speaker 2: the film doesn't lie. Let's go to Glenn in Newfane next.

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Speaker 2: What's up Glenn?

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Speaker 16: Hey, how you doing guys? Thanks for having me. My

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Speaker 16: comments today are regarding comment in question regarding the tush push.

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Speaker 16: First of all, my question and then my comment if

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Speaker 16: I can, the question is where did it go? Why

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Speaker 16: is it gone? During the Atlanta game, we had cooked

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Speaker 16: probably around the fifty yard line trying to run into

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Speaker 16: Basically there were three or four falcons right in the

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Speaker 16: middle of the field. I knew he wasn't going to

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Speaker 16: get very far, but it seemed like the tight end

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Speaker 16: that was right there was hesitant about even getting it going.

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Speaker 16: So I don't know if they're being told My question

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Speaker 16: would be, would they be being told that they should

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Speaker 16: not be doing it? I mean, it's kind of weird.

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Speaker 16: But my one comment is that I think it's gone

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Speaker 16: at the end of the year. And that's another I

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Speaker 16: guess question if you guys agree or disagree. One other

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Speaker 16: little thing, I just thought of the guards during the

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Speaker 16: Eagles game that I just saw last week, seeing them

637
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Speaker 16: basically false starting underneath and jumping the ball, you know,

638
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Speaker 16: thinking they're in like a little cocoon where nobody can

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Speaker 16: see them. I've seen the Bills do that a couple

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Speaker 16: of times. I don't know if it was a mistake.

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Speaker 16: You got all that sea of humanity in there, so

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Speaker 16: it's going to happen. But that's something I believe the officials,

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Speaker 16: if you guys agree or disagree, will be looking out

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Speaker 16: for because it is egregious. It is obvious when you've

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Speaker 16: got a good camrangle on it that that is it's

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Speaker 16: the death knell of the tush bush.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The problem with it, Glenn, and thanks for the call.

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Speaker 2: The problem with it is it is hard for the

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Speaker 2: linesman on the sideline to see the false starts by

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Speaker 2: the guards on that play. That's the problem and that's

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Speaker 2: why it's not being called enough, even though it's patently

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Speaker 2: obvious to us, because we have the benefit of ideal

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Speaker 2: camera angles on them.

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Speaker 3: Philly did get called for a full start this past weekend.

655
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 3: The tush push. That that's the real problem with the

656
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: play because there has been many times when they do

657
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: false start and the officials just can't see it. They're

658
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: too far away. It happens too fast, and that's it's

659
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: too hard to officiate. And that's been one of the

660
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: main arguments for the play or against the play, is

661
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 3: that it's too difficult to officiate. It's not that anybody

662
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 3: wants to let a team get away with what the

663
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: Eagles are doing in the play. We're watching right now,

664
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: so they can't see it. So yeah, the tush push

665
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 3: may his it's days may be numbered. I don't know

666
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: how they would word the verbiage to you know what

667
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 3: as to what teams will be allowed to do, because

668
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 3: they're not going to let, you know, disallow a quarterback

669
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: sneak right. How they would word it is the real

670
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: crux of the issue, because they're going to have to

671
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: let quarterback quarterback keep it right.

672
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: They're just going to not allow teammates to assist him

673
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 2: from behind.

674
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 3: Presumably yeah maybe, but but then they can let everybody

675
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 3: else do that.

676
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: And you're taking all plays out of the game that

677
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: involve teammates pushing players to advance the ball further for

678
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: more forward progress.

679
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: The offensive lineman can't push the pile, then that seems.

680
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: That seems yeah, that the ripple effects are the problem

681
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 3: as well. So all of that goes in and I

682
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: get it, dude, the Bills seem to have stopped running it.

683
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 3: That may be something Josh quietly told Joe Brady said listen,

684
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 3: I don't all run that anymore and told.

685
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: Joshan have a one yard run for a touchdown against

686
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: Baltimore in Week one.

687
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he went over the top. Yeah, So maybe Josh

688
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,479
Speaker 3: has said, you know what, guys, I'm kind of done

689
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 3: with that. Let's not do that.

690
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: Maybe the team doesn't want to expose him because we

691
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: would know what coach Dermot's thoughts were in the spring

692
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: owners meetings last spring when he was asked about it,

693
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: he said it is a safety issue in his mind, Yeah,

694
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: for players, So maybe that's why we're seeing less of it.

695
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 3: Well, it's a safety issue for the most important player,

696
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: right so yeah, because you know right, so, yeah, the

697
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 3: toush push may hits days well may well be numbered.

698
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: If the officials can start getting it right, like they

699
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 3: did this last weekend against Philly. They called him for

700
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 3: a false start, and all of a sudden, it went

701
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 3: from a first down or a goal or touchdown, whatever

702
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: it was. I think it was gonna be a first

703
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 3: down to they had to try a field goal. So

704
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 3: it went from yeah, it went from fourth and zero

705
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: to fourth and five plus zero. You know, so they

706
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 3: ended up kicking the field goal, so that that may

707
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 3: cool it for the offenses, or they may just try to,

708
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: you know, start being disciplined, run it the right way

709
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: instead of cheating.

710
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: Let's go to Steve in Florida. What's up Steve, Hey.

711
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 15: Good afternoon, guys. I was in Julior show.

712
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 16: Yeah.

713
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 15: I want to say, you know about this game coming

714
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 15: up on Sunday with the Panthers. Now, looking back at

715
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 15: the game against the Falcons, I'm totally mystified with the

716
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 15: Bills what they did in the third quarter. They you know,

717
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 15: they got the ball first, they scored, so they're down

718
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 15: twenty one to fourteen. Okay, so here they have potentially

719
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 15: to not only catch up, but go ahead, and the

720
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 15: defense stepped up yep, and got the ball back to

721
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 15: Josh and company. But then they they do this stuff

722
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 15: where they're running the sweep, they're not giving the ball

723
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 15: to Cook, and I think that's the real key. That's

724
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 15: what I want to say for this game. If it

725
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 15: ain't broke, don't fix it. Cook's got to get more

726
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 15: touches on rushing and receiving. They've got to utilize the man.

727
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 15: I mean, they gave them all that money for extension

728
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 15: and let Josh be Josh, but don't tinker with you know,

729
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 15: this stuff they did that obviously doesn't work. The other

730
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 15: thing I wanted to say is I'm really excited to

731
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 15: see Hoyt, especially in Okonzovie coming in. I think that's

732
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 15: really going to give the Bills defense the boost that

733
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 15: they need. So I'm expecting the Bills to come out

734
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 15: big and win this game if they let the offense

735
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 15: do what we know that they can do.

736
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: All right, thanks to call Steve, I would I would

737
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 2: agree on Cook's usage. He's got a forty eight million

738
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: dollar contract in his hand. Make use of him. So

739
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: what the forty nine ers did last week with McCaffrey,

740
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 2: they don't have a UKD receiver, No Juwan Jennings. You know,

741
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: Kittle's just getting back from injury. They used McCaffrey left, right,

742
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: and center. I'm not saying that Cook's got to be

743
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: your number one pass protector on third down, but there's

744
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: no reason he can't be on the field in addition

745
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 2: to Ty Johnson. Especially if you're down Palmer and Kincaid

746
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: again this week, he's got to be a bigger factor

747
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: in your game because you're you're reduced weapons.

748
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, if they're going to fumble the ball, that's

749
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 3: not on the coaching staff, and it's it's a simple

750
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 3: end round play. They've they've messed it up twice this

751
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: season and it's cost him big time. They messed it

752
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 3: up before that too, Curtis in years past. So don't

753
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: do that anymore. I get it. But if if they

754
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: do it in practice and they can execute it, you know,

755
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: you do it until they stop messing it up. The

756
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: one they missed on the opening day, or maybe it

757
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 3: was was an opening day, perhaps it was one of

758
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 3: the subsequent games of this season, when Dawson Knox was

759
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: going to get the handoff and they messed that up

760
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 3: and he fumbled it away. That play was wide open,

761
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 3: that was going to be a big gain and you know,

762
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 3: they couldn't execute it. That's not a play selection problem.

763
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: That's an execution problem. That's on the players, not the coaches.

764
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 3: And this offense and defense as well is never gonna

765
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 3: look as good as it should look or as good

766
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 3: as it can look as good as it should look

767
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: when they're getting ten penalties a game and turning it

768
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: over offensively.

769
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: Six turnovers last three games.

770
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: They can't do that and look their best when they

771
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: don't turn it over and when they don't get stupid penalties,

772
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: particularly lining up off sides penalties and stuff like that

773
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 3: and full start penalties. When they're not doing that, they

774
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 3: are too tough a team to beat for most other ball.

775
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: Clubs now and coach McDermott said as much today, and

776
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: I know we got to get to the break here,

777
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: but very quickly. Coach McDermott was asked if there was

778
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 2: a theme to the penalties, you know, with thirty in

779
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: the last three games, and he said there were two themes.

780
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 2: One too many line of scrimmage penalties and two too

781
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: many holding penalties. And holding penalties come down to technique,

782
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 2: but also sometimes the guy that's engaged with the block

783
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 2: he's blocking and having inside leverage and then the ball

784
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: carrier decides, well, I got to bounce the run outside. Well,

785
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: now they're out of position, and to try to hold

786
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: leverage on that, you're gonna hold the player. And so

787
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: coach has said, we've already preached to the players. If

788
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: the ball carrier takes the ball outside and you no

789
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: longer have leverage on the block, you've got to let go.

790
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 2: You can't keep hanging on because it is a tell refs.

791
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: We'll call that holding ten times out of ten. And

792
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: so if you feel like the ball carriers moving outside

793
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: of you, you've got to let go because you're not

794
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 2: gonna have leverage and you're not gonna win back leverage

795
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: based on how the play was originally designed. Got to

796
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: take a break here, more of your phone calls. When

797
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: we come back, lead off with a bunch. We got

798
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: a bunch of you here waiting on hold. So we'll

799
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 2: lead off with Bill in Texas when we return here

800
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: on What Bill's Live, presented by Cold of Health, It's

801
00:43:46,520 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Radio. This week's game at the Panthers is

802
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: presented by the bfl O Store, official retailer of the

803
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. And speaking of the Panthers. Multiple Panthers reporters

804
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: are reporting that Bryce Young has shown up to practice

805
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: without his foot in a walking boot as it was

806
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 2: earlier in the week, and it looks like he's going

807
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: to practice today, so has cleats on both feet and

808
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: looks like he's going to participate in some capacity today.

809
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: So that will be something to keep an eye on

810
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: as the week moves along.

811
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 3: Got pads in a helmet.

812
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe he is a possibility to play this week,

813
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: even though some network reporters have stated otherwise.

814
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 3: For Carolina fans, it's heresy for me to talk like this,

815
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 3: but I kind of might prefer Bryce Young to Dalton

816
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: Andy Dalton.

817
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: Becomes danger as he can extend the play more.

818
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right. But also you've got film on him, well, right,

819
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: you got the film with the offense is supposed doing

820
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 3: kind of doing trying to do with the guy.

821
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: He's been great in the red zone. Has been a

822
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: little bit off on third downs, so not as great

823
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: on third downs, not as great in the fourth quarter,

824
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: but he's been really good for them in the red

825
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: zone with decision making. So we'll see where the week goes.

826
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 3: He had a nice game. I was watching the Jet game.

827
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 3: He made a nice he extended to play and got

828
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: the touch well, the only touchdown of the game. I

829
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: guess maybe yeah, And it was a play that he made. Yep,

830
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 3: so it was He's yeah, it's.

831
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: Been making plays out of structure.

832
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

833
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and to build down

834
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: in Texas.

835
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 9: What's up Bill, Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen.

836
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 15: Thank you for taking my call.

837
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 16: Hey, the mantra everybody.

838
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 9: Eats, and I called a lot uh last week and

839
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 9: said it's not working. The thing is, it's a good theory,

840
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 9: and you do need that in a kind of an effect.

841
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 9: Everybody does need to eat.

842
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 16: But you're gonna have.

843
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 9: To have a number one receiver. And it hurts me

844
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 9: to say this, but have you seen how much better

845
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 9: the Cowboys look with Steedee Lamb and Pickins both catching.

846
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: The ball number one? If you have two number ones, yeah,

847
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 3: you're gonna look really good.

848
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 9: Well yeah, last year was last year. Last year worked

849
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 9: with everybody eats. You don't have the receiving cores to

850
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 9: do it. Keon Coleman is not an answer to anything,

851
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 9: Dave Davis saying an answer to anything. He drops the

852
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 9: ball too much, and can't get open. Keon Coleman is

853
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 9: the typical looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. He's got

854
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 9: looks the part, sounds like the part. But he is

855
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 9: not a number one receiver in any means or stretch

856
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 9: of the imagination. And it hurts me to say that

857
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 9: about the Cowboys because I have two teams.

858
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 16: I root for.

859
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 9: I root for Buffalo and whoever's playing against the Cowboys,

860
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 9: because I'd love to see those Cowboys loose. Anyway, that's

861
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 9: my thoughts. I'll let you all shut up, all right,

862
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 9: listen to what you got.

863
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks for the call. Bill. It did work for

864
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: them last year. I'll agree with you that every year

865
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: is different and we'll see if the approach works with

866
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 2: similar success. They scored more points than anybody in football

867
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: last season, counting the two Super Bowl teams. If you

868
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,479
Speaker 2: include playoffs, they scored six hundred and twelve points last

869
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: year the Bills. So if for some reason those thirty

870
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: point games disappear, well then you might have something. And

871
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 2: maybe this year is different. And I know in the

872
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 2: last two weeks they haven't come close to thirty points,

873
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: So we'll see if it changes for the better and

874
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: they get back on track and back to putting up

875
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: thirty burgers on people. I guess if they don't well,

876
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: then maybe they have to reassess that plan that worked

877
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 2: so well last year.

878
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, let's not forget. It's only been in

879
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks. Up until this last week.

880
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: They scored thirty points in all four games they won,

881
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 3: and then they got ten penalties and turned it over

882
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: a bunch, and they didn't get to thirty points against

883
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 3: New England Patriots this last week against the Falcon, same thing,

884
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: live turnovers in the last It may not it may

885
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 3: still not be broken. They're just not playing up to

886
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: their what they we have seen them do when they

887
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: don't turn it over, they don't take penalties. Everything's fine.

888
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 3: And let's not forget too. We spent the entire offseason saying,

889
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: hey this, everybody, each thing. It was great, six hundred

890
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 3: and twelve point, the whole thing that Brownie just said.

891
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 3: And they got more talented at the wide receiver spot.

892
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah they don't have Palmer right now, but yeah Palmer

893
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: and more kincaid and and you think Keon's going to

894
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 3: take a little step for and he has because he's

895
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 3: on the field, which is someplace where he wasn't a

896
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: lot last year. I mean, it's yeah, they've had a

897
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 3: tough couple of weeks, but it hasn't been the offensive

898
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 3: philosophy or the personnel per se that's been doing it.

899
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 3: It's been the execution. It's been the penalties and the turnovers.

900
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 3: So I'm not really willing to, you know, juggle it

901
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 3: too much at all anyway. So if they just get

902
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 3: back to not turn it over more than they get turnovers,

903
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: and they stop getting ten penalties a game and eight

904
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 3: and a half against the Patriots, maybe they haven't. Maybe

905
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 3: they'll be more like the team we think they are.

906
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we return, going to

907
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: be joined by Panthers radio play by play announcer a

908
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 2: Nie Shroff will get the lowdown on what's going on

909
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 2: at the quarterback position, with reports that Bryce Young is

910
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: out at practice and participating, among other things, Ane Shrop

911
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Speaker 2: coming your way next here on One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 2: by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

913
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Speaker 1: These These one Bills Live presented by Called LIGHTA Help

914
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: all Right.

915
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Speaker 2: Second hour of the show here on a Wednesday, Chris Brown,

916
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker, with you and please to be joined now

917
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: by the radio play by play man for the Carolina Panthers.

918
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 2: It is a Nichechroff joining us here. You may also

919
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: see him doing some ACC Network games from time to

920
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: time on the TV side, But Aniche, thanks for the time,

921
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: appreciate it, and I guess we'll just start right off

922
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 2: the rip with the quarterback, who, to some people surprise,

923
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 2: based on what some NFL Network people were reporting earlier

924
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: in the week, was walking out to the practice field

925
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 2: today without a boot on his ankle, and Bryce Young

926
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 2: no boot.

927
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 17: He did not have a noticeable limp, which he had

928
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 17: after the game on Sunday. It's an encouraging sign. He's

929
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 17: been pretty durable throughout his two plus year career in

930
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 17: the NFL, despite not being the biggest guy. He missed

931
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 17: one game with an ankle as a rookie against Seattle.

932
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 17: I think if you pulled everybody, most people would probably

933
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 17: still kind of hedge that Andy Dalton gets the start,

934
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 17: because again, the initial diagnosis that was out there was

935
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 17: high ankle sprain. But it sounds like, you know, there's

936
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 17: a better than a non zero chance that you could

937
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 17: see Bryce on Sunday.

938
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: What does you know what difference does it make, you know,

939
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 3: philosophically if Andy Dalton comes in, because he's a you know,

940
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 3: that guy's been around forever, so it's not like you're

941
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: gonna surprise him with anything. What does he bring to

942
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 3: the table. Certainly they don't want to lose their starting

943
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 3: quarterback and have to go with a backup. But Andy

944
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 3: Dalton probably is as good a backup as there is

945
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: in the NFL.

946
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 4: And that's why you have Andy Dalton, right. The guy's

947
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 4: seen it all.

948
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 17: He's a veteran, he has started a number of games

949
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 17: since he's been with the Panthers. It's his third year

950
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 17: with the Panthers, second year in the system. You give

951
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 17: Andy an entire week, I'll be honest with you, I

952
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 17: don't think a whole lot changes philosophically or schematically.

953
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 2: Right with that in mind, though a niche I mean,

954
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 2: you know that Bryce has been pressured on about thirty

955
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 2: nine percent of his dropbacks. It's the fifth highest rate

956
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: in the league. My question to you, having seen all

957
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: the snaps is do you attribute that to maybe Bryce

958
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: at times not getting it out fast enough and extending plays,

959
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: or you know, do you think it's a protection issue upfront.

960
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 17: Now, I think teams have blitzed. That's been part of it, right,

961
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 17: Teams have tried to come after him. There is sort

962
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 17: of this feeling that, Okay, you get the Panthers in

963
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 17: a passing down, let's see if Bryce Young can beat you.

964
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 17: And a lot of that stems from how well they've

965
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 17: been able to run the football through the first six

966
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 17: seven weeks of the season. So he's actually looked okay

967
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 17: against the blitz. He moves the pocket, hasn't really taken

968
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 17: a number of sacks that you would say is outrage

969
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 17: the first couple of weeks, there were some turnover issues.

970
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 17: It's been a lot better since week three. So I

971
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 17: think he's been steady Eddie, to be honest with you.

972
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 17: They've won four out of five and he's just been

973
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 17: for the most part in those games.

974
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 4: He's just been a steady hand.

975
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 17: I think sometimes the game manager label can be taken

976
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 17: the wrong way, but I think he's done a really

977
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 17: nice job of managing the games and managing the offense

978
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 17: over these last four or five games.

979
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: And from one thousand miles away like we are, it

980
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: seems fairly obvious that Rico Daddle and Tuba Hubbard have

981
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 3: made an enormous difference for that club. I mean, both

982
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: those guys can really go, and that running game has

983
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 3: changed everything for the entire team.

984
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 17: Yeah, this offensive line despite some injuries, I mean you

985
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 17: think about it. They've had at least one of their

986
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 17: five starters miss a game this season. Their best offensive lineman,

987
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 17: Robert Hunt is out for the season. The right guard,

988
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 17: the starting center, Austin Corbett, went out in the Week two.

989
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 17: Kate Mays has been really good since he stepped up,

990
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 17: and then you know Corbett filled in last week. It

991
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 17: left guard with Damian Lewis out. The offensive line, which

992
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 17: returned the top nine from last year, has been a

993
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 17: big strength of this team. And the running game has

994
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 17: been a big strength. And you know they run the

995
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 17: duo play and Steve you know how that goes where essentially,

996
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 17: you know, you got two offensive linemen double teaming a defender.

997
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 17: It's a very simple, very basic play. But going into

998
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 17: last week, they were averaging about five and a half

999
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 17: yards every time they ran duo. It was seven and

1000
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 17: a half when they ran it against the Cowboys. So

1001
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 17: the run game with Cuba and then certainly when Cuba

1002
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 17: got hurt and Rico stepped in against Miami in Dallas.

1003
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 17: You know, you can make the case over the last

1004
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 17: two three weeks Rico Dowdell has been the best running

1005
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 17: back in the NFL. He might be the best skill

1006
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 17: guy in the NFL over that span.

1007
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I know Cuba Hubbard and he's as

1008
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: a respected veteran leader on this team. You know, had

1009
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: a thousand yard season last year. I'm not calling him

1010
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: Chop Liver here, but it's kind of hard to ignore

1011
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 2: doubtle with a pair of two hundred all purpose yard games.

1012
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: And now Hubert's back at Hubbard's back and healthy, and

1013
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: you know most people are hedging it to be like

1014
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 2: seventy thirty Rico Dowdle in terms of workload. Where do

1015
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 2: you see that workload shaking out as dynamic and dominant

1016
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 2: as Dowdell has been.

1017
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny and panther Land.

1018
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 17: These are first world problems, and these are good problems

1019
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 17: to have to have two guys who also ran for

1020
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 17: a thousand yards last year. Rico ran for a thousand

1021
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 17: with Dallas last year, and now he's the third leading

1022
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 17: rusher in the NFL. I think what you saw against

1023
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 17: the Jets where Dave Canalis essentially alternated series between the two.

1024
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 4: I think you'll see some.

1025
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 17: Version of that. Maybe if one of them starts to

1026
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 17: really lather up and get hot in the second half,

1027
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 17: they might get an extended run. But they like the

1028
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 17: idea of having two alpha running backs, keeping both of

1029
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 17: them fresh, and then in the fourth quarter when the

1030
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 17: defense is tied, you can mix and match and rotate

1031
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 17: in and just wear other teams down.

1032
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 3: What have they done with personnel changed? I mean you

1033
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 3: always think about, well, if they're the two of the

1034
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 3: best offensive players you have, maybe we see him for

1035
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 3: the first time being able to get on the field

1036
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 3: at the same time. You know, do you take a

1037
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 3: tight end, do you sit him down or you take

1038
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 3: one of the white house?

1039
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 2: Now?

1040
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 3: Is there any talk about that kind of dynamic and

1041
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 3: philosophy being edged into the offense just because both these

1042
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 3: guys are such weapons.

1043
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 17: We did see a little bit of twenty one personnel

1044
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 17: and pony two running back sets, but not a ton.

1045
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 17: And what's kind of happened is they went on this

1046
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 17: run and they did it with some key guys out.

1047
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 17: Jatavian Sanders, who was the starting tight end, was out

1048
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 17: him then Sanders kind of worked his way back in

1049
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 17: last week. But Tommy Tremble and Mitchell Evans, they've been

1050
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 17: playing really well with Sanders out, and so again like

1051
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 17: these are problems that the Panthers didn't have in the past,

1052
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 17: just because they didn't quite have the depth. And the

1053
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 17: one thing that has shown through these first seven games,

1054
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 17: it's just a much deeper team. You get Austin Orbit back, Okay, Like,

1055
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 17: how do you plug him back in?

1056
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 15: Uh?

1057
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 17: This is a veteran leader, respected guy, someone who's won

1058
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 17: a Super Bowl with the Rams.

1059
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 4: You know, he got a spot back with an injury.

1060
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 4: But it's just a much deeper team.

1061
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 17: And I think Dave Canalis is kind of looking at

1062
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 17: it and saying like, these are these are good problems

1063
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 17: to have. How do we work guys into back into

1064
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 17: the mix, you know, who are now coming off injuries

1065
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 17: when the replacements have done a nice job.

1066
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: What is the general consensus on Ted McMillan. Has he

1067
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: already ascended to the number one role, you know in

1068
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 2: that passing game for the Panthers in a very short

1069
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: period of time. I mean I realized he's a top

1070
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: ten pick. And there's a lot of expectations there, you know,

1071
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: but Leguette was a high draft choice just a year prior,

1072
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 2: didn't really you know, production really didn't manifest itself in

1073
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: the same way for him in his rookie season. So

1074
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: how would you establish the pecking order there in the

1075
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: passing game at receiver? And by the way, talk about

1076
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: a lot of size in physicality. I mean those two

1077
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 2: guys both go you know, six four fifteen, two twenty

1078
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: five and even Cocher is a six to three, two

1079
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: hundred and thirteen pounder. I mean there's a lot of

1080
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 2: physicality there.

1081
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got some big receivers.

1082
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 17: And then you're gonna see, you know, the other guy,

1083
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 17: Jimmy Horn, who's starting to get more reps.

1084
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 4: Jimmy Horns, the speed guy.

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Speaker 17: He made an impact when he's been on the field,

1086
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 17: whether it's reversus Jets sweeps. They try to get him

1087
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 17: the ball in space, some of those bubble and tunnel screens.

1088
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 17: But it's not even a question. Tteroa McMillan is the

1089
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 17: number one wide receiver and it was very clear from

1090
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 17: game onep yep, this is the guy and he can

1091
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 17: go make contested catches. Everything he does is just smooth.

1092
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 17: There's nothing awkward or clumsy about the way he plays.

1093
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,959
Speaker 17: He catches the ball with his hands in one motion.

1094
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 17: He can turn and run as the curtain blows against

1095
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 17: me a little bit of a windy day in Charlotte.

1096
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 17: Leget last week against the Jets, that was the best

1097
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 17: game he's played in a Panther uniform. Said career highs

1098
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 17: in receptions, in receiving yards, made a couple of really

1099
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 17: big catches, including the one at the end when Andy

1100
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 17: Dalton threw him a thirty three yard bomb down field

1101
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 17: that was to seal the game, the first down to

1102
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 17: clinch the game against the Jets. But lee Get's a

1103
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 17: guy who's built a lot like Deebo Samuel, and I

1104
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 17: think when Leget gets going downhill, and I think he's

1105
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 17: still figuring that out. Like I'm not a finesse guy.

1106
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 17: I don't need to be a finesse guy. I can

1107
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 17: run over people and I can run through people. And

1108
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 17: the more he does that, I think the more effective

1109
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 17: he'll be. And again, Jalen Coker was one of those

1110
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 17: guys he'd been out with a quad.

1111
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 4: He made a season.

1112
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 17: Debut last week. So receiver room that's getting healthy but

1113
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 17: the pecking order is very clear. Tedoroa McMillan is the

1114
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 17: clear number.

1115
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 3: One defensively for the Carolina Panthers. Derek Brown really jumped

1116
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 3: into the national spotlight. He had a game of all

1117
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 3: games against the Jets this past week. Give us a

1118
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 3: little idea about the defensive front of the Carolina Panthers,

1119
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 3: a little synopa. How they're doing.

1120
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Speaker 17: Vastly, vastly improved night and day from a season ago.

1121
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 17: So a year ago, Derek Brown played in one game,

1122
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 17: Adaminiscus was out for the season, and the trickle down

1123
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 17: effect really debilitated the entire defense. The Panthers were historically

1124
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 17: bad on defense. They were historically bad against the run.

1125
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 17: They were the first team to give up three thousand

1126
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 17: rushing yards in a season since I think nineteen eighty,

1127
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 17: and they had a stretch for about six to seven

1128
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 17: games in a row where teams were rushing for two

1129
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 17: hundred yards per game against the Panthers. Well, fast forward

1130
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 17: to this year. Derek Brown comes back, He's healthy. He

1131
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 17: reminds us that he had one hundred plus tackles as

1132
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 17: a d lineman two years ago, and he's a game wrecker.

1133
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 17: He throws offensive linemen around like rag dolls. I think again,

1134
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 17: if the Panthers had more of a national stage and

1135
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 17: a national platform, you would legitimately be talking about a

1136
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 17: healthy Derek Brown is one of the best interior d

1137
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 17: lineman in the NFL. I know he's listed as a

1138
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 17: d M, but it's a three to four. You know,

1139
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 17: the guy takes up space. He had seven tackles, three

1140
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 17: passes knocked down. He's starting to get to the quarterback,

1141
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 17: which is something new he's added. You know, I had

1142
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 17: two sacks last week against the Jets. He's the guy

1143
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 17: that you need to account for on every single play

1144
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 17: if you're the Bills or whoever you're playing.

1145
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 2: And then just on the back end a niche. I

1146
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 2: know people are gonna probably not throw at J. C.

1147
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 2: Horn all that often and with good reason, and so

1148
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 2: Mike Jackson by default sees a lot more passes thrown

1149
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 2: his way. How has he held up, you know, thus

1150
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 2: far this season? I know he had a good performance

1151
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 2: last week, but how has he held up you know,

1152
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: through the first six weeks.

1153
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think it's fair to say teams have come

1154
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 17: after him and he's more of your physical corner. He's

1155
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 17: more of his zone guy. Not that j C isn't physical,

1156
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 17: but yeah, j C is the guy that you know

1157
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 17: can lock down the other team's best receiver. Panthers don't

1158
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 17: play it's on a man. It's mostly a zone heavy team,

1159
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 17: so it's not really about matchups with receivers. But Mike

1160
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 17: Jack as they call him, Mike Jack, physical corner, likes

1161
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 17: to get up in your face. Teams do like to

1162
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 17: come after him. Had I thought his best game of

1163
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 17: the year against the Jets. But he's the guy that's

1164
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 17: going to be challenged because Luke Kickley joked down the

1165
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 17: air on Sunday at one point.

1166
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 4: He goes, j C.

1167
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 17: Horn is just bored. He goes, He's bored they're not

1168
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 17: throwing to him, and then the Jets decided to throw

1169
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,439
Speaker 17: to him and he had two picks in the second half.

1170
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's It does seem like they have turned

1171
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 3: the corner these three of these last or four out

1172
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 3: of these last five games that they have won. It

1173
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 3: looked like it was gonna be another slow start to

1174
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 3: the season, and it was, and then they turned it around.

1175
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:52,439
Speaker 3: What has been the biggest difference obviously the slow start,

1176
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 3: but man, they started winning and they have not stopped.

1177
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 4: Steve.

1178
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 17: You know, you played on great teams and when a

1179
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 17: team can fined different ways to win, that's a sign

1180
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 17: of an ascending team, and it's kind of what you're

1181
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 17: seeing with the Panthers. You go back to the game

1182
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 17: against the Falcons, special teams set the tone in terms

1183
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 17: of field position, kickoffs, long field goals, and then the

1184
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 17: defense made some big plays in the offense just took

1185
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 17: advantage of a lot of short fields. The New England game,

1186
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 17: they got blitzed, but you guys saw New England there.

1187
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 17: I think a better team than maybe a lot of

1188
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 17: people expected. And Drake May has ascended. And then against Miami,

1189
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 17: down seventeen to nothing, they stayed with the run. Now

1190
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 17: they got away with the run when they were down

1191
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 17: seventeen the first two weeks against Jacksonville and Arizona, they

1192
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 17: stayed with the run and ric o'dowell went off, and

1193
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 17: all of a sudden, the defense started getting stops and

1194
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 17: three and outs, and ric o'dwell just kept on running downhill.

1195
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 17: Dallas had an elite offense and that was a little

1196
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 17: bit of a shootout whoever had the ball last, and

1197
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 17: the Panthers showed they could win that type of game,

1198
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 17: and then the Jets game last week that was a

1199
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 17: defensive set struggle and they were able to win with defense.

1200
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 17: So it's a young team that is finding different ways

1201
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 17: to win. And one thing that stood out they've been really,

1202
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 17: really good in the fourth quarter. They've got a plus

1203
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 17: thirty five scoring margin in the fourth quarter, which is

1204
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 17: number two in the NFL.

1205
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 2: And then last one for me anich, the draft class.

1206
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: You know, obviously you already mentioned it. It's a young

1207
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: football team on the whole, so you would almost anticipate

1208
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 2: that they might depend on their rookies maybe a little

1209
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 2: bit more than maybe some more veteran leaden teams. But

1210
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 2: I have to believe the early returns on this draft

1211
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 2: class have been pretty positive. Obviously, Ted McMillan is someone

1212
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 2: you're expecting things from early on. But you know, Scourton's

1213
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: making an impact on defense with the pass rush. I

1214
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 2: think he had a sack and a half last week.

1215
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 2: Even Trevor Etn is getting worked worked in as a

1216
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 2: return man, you know, in a backup running back, and

1217
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 2: even the rookie kicker has been good. So what are

1218
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 2: the early returns on this half class and their contributions

1219
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 2: to this team thus far.

1220
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 17: Yeah, we're still halfway through the season, but the early

1221
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 17: returns are is that this could be a franchise altering

1222
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 17: draft class. They're getting production from almost everybody. You start

1223
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 17: with Ttero McMillan. He's established himself as your number one

1224
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 17: wide receiver. You mentioned Nick Scort in the second round pick.

1225
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 17: He's shown himself to be a three down player, a

1226
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 17: guy who really does a nice job against the run.

1227
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 17: And then he got his first two sacks against the Jets.

1228
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 17: Prince lyu Monmiel and another pass rusher out of Ole Miss.

1229
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 17: He's really started to come along and play the run better,

1230
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 17: which has allowed the Panthers to deploy him more in

1231
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 17: run situations. And he's gonna have to do more of

1232
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 17: that because Pat Jones, one of their starting edge rushers,

1233
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 17: is after the season after back surgery. And then you

1234
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 17: go down the list. Etn has had some big plays

1235
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 17: in the run game. He had some huge returns against

1236
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 17: the Jets. Mitchell Evans, the fifth round pick, had the

1237
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 17: game winning touchdown catch in the Miami game, then had

1238
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 17: another touchdown against Dallas. So he's continued you to make

1239
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 17: some plays, and then the undrafted guys like Corey Thornton,

1240
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 17: you know, has cracked the rotation and cracked the fifty

1241
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 17: three man roster as a defensive back. The one game

1242
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 17: where he saw extended snaps due to injuries, he played

1243
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 17: really well. Fitzgerald the kicker, has been terrific. I think

1244
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 17: his only misses from fifty three or fifty five yards

1245
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 17: this season, he's hit one from fifty seven. He's hit

1246
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 17: another one from fifty five. So they've gotten a lot

1247
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 17: of production from this rookie class. And when you look

1248
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 17: at the history of the Panthers, and especially they're drafts,

1249
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,919
Speaker 17: a lot of times you see a common theme, which

1250
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 17: was the hit on their first pick, and then you

1251
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 17: know you get passed round two. Often you don't get

1252
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 17: a lot of production. But this draft class, and honestly

1253
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 17: last year's draft class too, starting to pay a lot

1254
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 17: of dividends. And it feels in Charlotte, like the arrow

1255
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 17: is pointing up. This is one of the bigger regular

1256
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 17: season home games they've had in a few years, and

1257
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 17: I think it's going to be interesting because you know,

1258
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 17: you guys are a team with Super Bowl aspirations. If

1259
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 17: the Panthers play well, make this a four quarter game.

1260
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 17: I think it goes a long way in terms of

1261
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 17: what could be this season.

1262
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 3: A niche, Thank you man. I appreciate you coming on.

1263
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 4: Appreciate it, guys, thank you and Steve Man.

1264
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 17: I always enjoyed watching you as a player, and I

1265
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 17: Canton's calling man one day, Canton's calling.

1266
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks a niche, We'll see you this weekend.

1267
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 4: All right.

1268
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 2: That's an a shup the play by play man for

1269
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers joining us and kind of giving us

1270
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 2: a feel. I mean, you know, we talk about young

1271
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 2: players getting on the field here and how hard it

1272
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 2: is to crack the lineup on a veteran leaden roster

1273
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: here in Buffalo, Steve down there, they had to go

1274
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 2: with some guys because of injury, as you heard, but

1275
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 2: they're working other players in there. I mean, even that

1276
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: Jimmy Horn kid, who was a sixth round pick. You

1277
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 2: know they're using him in a gadget role on offense

1278
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 2: because he's a speed Deamon So looking like a really

1279
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 2: good draft class for Dan Morgan the GM.

1280
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 3: You've got to think too that, you know that atmosphere

1281
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 3: in and around that building. They've won four out of

1282
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 3: their last five after having you know, after struggling year

1283
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 3: after year, going through head coaches, the whole thing now

1284
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 3: to put this kind of stretch together. He's right, and

1285
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 3: issue is right that the arrow seems to be pointing

1286
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 3: up down here for the first time so in a while.

1287
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is an update concerning the fate of one

1288
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:32,959
Speaker 2: Ray Ray McCloud, Steve released by the Falcons. The Giants

1289
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 2: look like they are going to sign the former Falcons

1290
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 2: wide receiver and return man. This according to the Atlanta

1291
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 2: Journal Constitution reporter d Orlando Ledbetter. So we know that

1292
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 2: Malieue Neighbors is out for the year. For the Giants,

1293
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 2: they're a little devoid at receivers. Slayton has missed some

1294
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: time with a hamstring injury, so not terribly surprised to

1295
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 2: see the Giants go out and scoop up Ray Ray

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Speaker 2: McCloud to add to their receiver room. We are going

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Speaker 2: to get back to the phones here and we have

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Speaker 2: a little bit of time, so we'll squeeze in Mark

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Speaker 2: in West Seneca's Mark.

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Speaker 18: Hey, guys, good afternoon. Two things. First of all, if

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Speaker 18: Palmer's down this week, I'm curious as to who would

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01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 18: be the first call up if they do elevate somebody

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01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 18: from a practice squad at wide receiver, and if they

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Speaker 18: don't go wide receiver, who do you think they might

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01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 18: elevate at a different position. And then the other thing

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Speaker 18: I want to mention real quick is I may talk

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Speaker 18: to you guys in the past. You guys are talking

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Speaker 18: about the replace thing, and Chris, I believe you said

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01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 18: it was huge about the box thing and the team's

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Speaker 18: getting the same feet now as a replay guy. But

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Speaker 18: then Steve, you said it's sort of been passing. If

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Speaker 18: you're a national game, you might have up to sixteen cameras,

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Speaker 18: and if you're at one o'clock game, you might only

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Speaker 18: have eight. And I've always contended to me that is

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01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 18: a problem because replays the huge thing in NFL games

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Speaker 18: these days, and even if one o'clock games are not

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Speaker 18: being played by maybe a team that's going to be

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01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 18: in the playoffs, they still can't affect the standings. If

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Speaker 18: you are a team that's trying to get into the

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Speaker 18: playoffs and in a league that is searching for consistency

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Speaker 18: at refereeing, interpretation of rules, all these different things. To me,

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01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 18: that's a no brainer.

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Speaker 2: That is something that's controllable, but here's the yeah, but

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Speaker 2: here's the problem. Mark. The problem is that's not a

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Speaker 2: league controlled thing. That's a network controlled thing. The networks

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Speaker 2: pay billions of dollars to air the games. They decide

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Speaker 2: how much they're going to invest in the production. For

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01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 2: a one o'clock game that's not going to draw nearly

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Speaker 2: as many eyeballs as the four twenty five window, which

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Speaker 2: has the biggest ratings, They're naturally gonna invest more money,

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01:10:56,479 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 2: more equipment, more broadcast time, more cameras for a high

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01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 2: profile game. It's it's really not a league decision how

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Speaker 2: many cameras are there. It's a network decision. That's the problem.

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Speaker 18: Okay, and I understand that, and I figured you were

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Speaker 18: going to go there with that. But my point about

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Speaker 18: that is, first of all, we always refer to the

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Speaker 18: NFL as one thousand pound gorilla in the room. I'm

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Speaker 18: sure they have some influence in that. And if they

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Speaker 18: can't get to say sixteen cameras per game, which maybe

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Speaker 18: is unreasonable from the standpoint of the broadcast companies, then

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01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 18: at the very least, then let's scale it back. Leave

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01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 18: the calls on the field to stand where they need to,

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01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 18: because you don't have replay and go to eight cameras, or.

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Speaker 16: Go to Mark.

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Speaker 3: Here's here's why, Mark, here's why that's a bad idea.

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Speaker 3: First of all, you got you may have those people

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Speaker 3: in the stadium who you know, they get the call

1348
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 3: and they get it before anybody else, and we're all

1349
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 3: watching it, But you got millions of people around the

1350
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 3: country watching it on TV. They want to see the

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01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 3: calls gotten right. And if it takes eight cameras or

1352
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 3: sixteen cameras, they want to see it getting right. And really,

1353
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,799
Speaker 3: nobody cares about the standings and all of that because

1354
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 3: this team, these two teams are playing, they're both playing

1355
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 3: under the same set of cameras, they're both playing under

1356
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 3: the same set of rules. Win the game, you don't,

1357
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 3: you know, you're not here to beat that team, so

1358
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 3: the other team can go to the playoffs because they

1359
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 3: you know, nobody cares. Nobody cares. They want to get

1360
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 3: the calls right. And not only they want to get

1361
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 3: the calls right, they want to get them right fast

1362
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Speaker 3: and with the least least level of doubt. So if

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Speaker 3: they got sixteen cameras or sixty cameras, nobody cares as

1364
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 3: long as they get the call. Right. If they're not

1365
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 3: getting it right, then you got a problem. But what

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01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 3: happens is if you're going to leave the calls on

1367
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 3: the field and you got nine cameras who show the

1368
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 3: same thing getting it wrong or sixteen camera feed that's

1369
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 3: getting the camera getting the calls right or showing that

1370
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 3: that's wrong, Now you got a problem. Now it's a thing.

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Speaker 3: So get the calls right is all anybody cares about.

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Speaker 3: And this replay thing, they it's getting better, not worse.

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01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 3: It's getting better. It may not be perfect, but it's

1374
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Speaker 3: getting way way better than it is getting way way worse.

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Speaker 3: And I'll say another thing. When the Bills build this

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01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 3: new stadium, one of the things that they're going to

1377
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 3: start doing with new stadiums there, I don't think they're

1378
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 3: doing it with this one. The stadium will have cameras

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Speaker 3: installed permanently. They'll have a three hundred and sixty degree

1380
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 3: ring around the stadium at a certain level, and they'll

1381
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 3: be able to get camera angle on any where you want,

1382
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 3: and the stadium will do it. Forget about the network now.

1383
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 3: The network will have their own individual cameras like they

1384
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 3: always do, but the stadium will have cameras built in

1385
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 3: so they've got the pylon cameras. Now they've got the

1386
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 3: yard marker cameras. Now it's getting better, not worse. So

1387
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Speaker 3: don't get caught up in the sixteen camera eight camera

1388
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 3: shoots because you know, as long as it's fair for

1389
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 3: both teams on that field, getting the calls right is

1390
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 3: what it's about. It's not about this team having an

1391
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 3: advantage over a team over there plays at one o'clock

1392
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 3: and we're playing at nine o'clock. It's not about that.

1393
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 3: It's about having the call right on the field. Every

1394
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 3: time we've got to go to break.

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01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 2: Should tell you from the Panthers practice, Bryce Young is

1396
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 2: working on the side though he has no noticeable limp.

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01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 2: Their injury report will come out later this afternoon. Got

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01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: to take a break here because when we come back,

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Speaker 2: one Jackson Hawks will be joining us in studio as

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01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 2: part of the Tim Horton's Time out that's coming your

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01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 2: way next here on one. Bill's Live Stay with us

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01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 2: from the Coach's Office is presented by CfBT copyr Facts

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01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 2: Business Technology, the official office technology company of the Buffalo

1404
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 2: Bills and really Steve coming out of the buy. It's

1405
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 2: about getting the team back on track in earnest, everybody

1406
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 2: might be refreshed, but getting everybody refocused is job. One

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01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 2: thought it was interesting that they took advantage of the

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Speaker 2: extra day on Monday with a closed practice that, from

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01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 2: all indications, was pretty much an hour of strict fundamentals

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Speaker 2: in Pats.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of things to address. I mean

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Speaker 3: the particularly I mean, like I said, the coaches, if

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01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,560
Speaker 3: you're going to have a four and two record, have

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01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 3: the last two games be the losses so you can

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01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 3: really hammer them on the Everything kind of gathers your problem.

1416
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 3: Your problems are accentuated, they're easy to point out. It's

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01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 3: fresh in the player's minds. They go out and work

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01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 3: on it. They're ready to work on it to get

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01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 3: back on track. It's a real workmanlike atmosphere from the

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01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 3: player's standpoint as well. So it was Yeah, the coach's office,

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01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 3: it's one of those jobs. I say this all the

1422
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 3: time about people say what do you want to get again? No,

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01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 3: I don't want to be a coach because it's a

1424
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 3: job that's never done. You are never done in April.

1425
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 3: You're putting in fifty hour weeks, you know, and there's

1426
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 3: nobody even in the building you just never finished. So

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01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 3: you can imagine a bye week where you got a

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01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 3: little extra time during the season when it's really matters.

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01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 3: These guys are hammering it. Certainly they're trying to get

1430
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 3: refreshed physically with a little time off, but man oh man,

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01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 3: there's ten thousand things these guys want to attack, and

1432
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:22,759
Speaker 3: all of them have to do with getting their players

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01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 3: to play their best. You know, thirty penalties over the

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01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 3: last couple of games to three games they won one

1435
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 3: of them. They're turning it over and they didn't match

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01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 3: Atlanta's emotional content to me, and that's a problem for coaches,

1437
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 3: and there's they're gonna sit, and that's a problem, quite frankly,

1438
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 3: for the best players on the team. You got to

1439
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 3: be the guys set that tone. It's gotta be Josh,

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01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 3: it's got to be James Cook, it's gotta be those guys,

1441
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 3: you know, Matt Mulano. It's got to be the guys

1442
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 3: on that side of the ball that set the tone.

1443
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 3: You know, Christian Benford's, Terrell Bernard's, those are the guys

1444
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 3: who are responsible for setting the tone emotionally, the best

1445
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 3: players on your team, and they didn't do it. And

1446
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 3: against Atlanta, and it showed that kind of stuff can

1447
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 3: be addressed in the offseason in the bye week, and

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01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 3: you can bet that it was and it has been.

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01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 3: We saw a little bit of evidence of it in

1450
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 3: the you know, in the in the closed practice. So it's, uh,

1451
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 3: that's where your mind's at for this game, for this week,

1452
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 3: is getting this team to play its best because you

1453
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 3: really feel like you have not even been close to it.

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01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 2: So that is from the coach's office, presented by c FBT.

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01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones as we wait the

1456
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 2: arrival of Jackson Hawes into Virgil in Baltimore. What's up, Virgil?

1457
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 19: Hey, yeah, I'll do and things to take my call? Sure,

1458
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 19: I actually want to comment. I actually go about what

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01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 19: you were just commenting on. I really love to get

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01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 19: host you guys all the time, and I would love

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01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 19: your perspective on I don't have an attend here, but like,

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01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 19: let's say this season goes the way we've seen everyone

1463
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:57,560
Speaker 19: if this is this season that you know, based on

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01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 19: our schedule, based off the draft in the town, you know,

1465
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 19: I think the one seed was almost kind of the

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01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 19: expectation for us. Obviously, things can happen injuries, having all

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01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 19: that fun up, and I fully expect as you guys

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01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 19: have talked about, you know, these two weeks where we

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Speaker 19: didn't play to our best to coach and get those

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Speaker 19: things six we've seen this year every year in your opinion,

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Speaker 19: if this season ends though, where we missed the one

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Speaker 19: seed because of one of these dumb losses, and our

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01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,839
Speaker 19: season ends in Kansas City again, you know this coaching staff,

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01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 19: the roster we build, the owner willing to I'm not

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01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 19: a favorite hands, so I don't really know how Poogle

1476
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:32,759
Speaker 19: has handled that factory of sadness, losing with the Sabers

1477
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 19: for the last couple of years. If we end in

1478
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 19: this similar fashi where we kind of let things get

1479
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 19: away from us, all those things, what do you think

1480
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 19: the thresholds are of changes happening?

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Speaker 16: If any?

1482
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 19: I just want to get a game of your perspective.

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01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 3: Knowing the schools and everything like that, I'll say this,

1484
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 3: I would not anticipate a coaching change. Getting deep in

1485
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 3: the playoffs every year. It's not easy to do, but

1486
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 3: I would expect there'd be some serious conversation about the

1487
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 3: staffing and how doing things. Sean has those kind of

1488
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 3: conversations you know himself. You know, he's always he's got

1489
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 3: that growth mindset, and he expects his staff to do

1490
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 3: it as well. But you can bet nobody's gonna be

1491
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 3: happy in the building unless you know, all their hopes

1492
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 3: and dreams come true.

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Speaker 2: And he's made those changes and he's kind of kids

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01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 2: season in twenty twenty three, right, Yeah, Ken Dorsey, they

1495
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:25,520
Speaker 2: will coordinator.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine that Sean would get some pressure from

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01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,560
Speaker 3: Terry or fans for sure, the fan base to go

1498
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 3: out and get a guy like Jim Schwartz or Joe

1499
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Speaker 3: an Arumo or Lou Amaruno and Arumo or the guy

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Speaker 3: from Philly who's the coordinator from Philly vic fangios. Get

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Speaker 3: somebody like that who has a reputation of being a

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01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 3: guy who is a great defensive coordinator. There will be

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01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 3: some pressure for him to do that if the if

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Speaker 3: the season continues in the in the vein that it

1505
01:19:59,320 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 3: is now.

1506
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot depends on how those playoff

1507
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 2: performances look. Right, and also they're right there again where

1508
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 2: the defense has a great finish and they've got five

1509
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 2: takeaways in their last two playoff games, and somehow, some

1510
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 2: way they still come up short. It's going to be

1511
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 2: a much different look than some of what you're foreshadowing.

1512
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 2: So I think how the game and how the end

1513
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 2: of the Secon year looks that matters too. I mean

1514
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 2: last year, and there's no way for us to play

1515
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 2: that either. You got stabbed in the back by a

1516
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 2: bad fourth down spot. I mean, what are we talking about?

1517
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 3: And you've got a guy that in Josh who makes

1518
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 3: this unbelievable throw, and a guy who catches everything has

1519
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 3: it bang off his face mask trying to make a

1520
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 3: diving catch. So you got stuff like that going on us.

1521
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's all that's in the mix. But you

1522
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 3: can bet they will be hard pressed not to do

1523
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 3: something a little more than what they have done in

1524
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 3: the past.

1525
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 2: We have to step aside, take a break here because

1526
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 2: when we return one Jackson Hawsibly joining us in studio

1527
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 2: as part of the Tim Horton's tim Bits time out

1528
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 2: that's coming your way next to your on One Bill's Live.

1529
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 2: Stay with us all right back here on One Bill's Live,

1530
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on a Wednesday and

1531
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 2: joining us in studio is Bill's rookie tight end, Jackson

1532
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 2: Hawes and Jackson before he came back on was just

1533
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 2: telling us about how he spent the bye week up

1534
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 2: in Lake Placid checking that out. I have never been

1535
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 2: to Utah myself. Did it remind you at all of

1536
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 2: Utah landscape wise?

1537
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 8: Little bit of Deer Valley?

1538
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1539
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 8: Okay, some of those rolling hills and you know, just

1540
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:39,879
Speaker 8: like pretty kind of old buildings.

1541
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit of that from Okay. Yeah, I

1542
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 2: figured there might be some similarities.

1543
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 3: How much how much time do they give the team

1544
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 3: off you get?

1545
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 8: I want to say maybe like five nights. I was

1546
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 8: up there for about three nights.

1547
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 2: So nice.

1548
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 4: It's nice.

1549
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful country there.

1550
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 3: Sure. What's been the focus since you've been back since Monday?

1551
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 8: Just kind of regrouping, kind of getting our feet underneath us,

1552
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 8: you know, stay on that same goal, same mindset, coming

1553
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 8: out strong and just you know, playing together.

1554
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 2: I know that coach address. I'll tell you what he

1555
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 2: said in a second, but I don't have to tell you.

1556
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 2: Like penalties have cropped up these last couple of weeks eleven,

1557
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 2: eleven and eight, which is too many for any team.

1558
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 2: And coach was asked about it today and he said

1559
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,560
Speaker 2: some of the themes are line of scrimmage penalties and

1560
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 2: holding penalties, and you guys that block kind of get

1561
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 2: caught in a tough spot sometimes because if the ballcarrier

1562
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 2: is coming around, play is designed to go inside of you.

1563
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 2: You're setting up for outside leverage and then that ballcarrier

1564
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 2: bounces it and now you're out of position leverage wise,

1565
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 2: but you still want to make the block for the guy.

1566
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 2: But that's when res refs are almost ten out of

1567
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,560
Speaker 2: ten times going to call you for holding on that.

1568
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 2: And it's not your fault. It's because the leverage of

1569
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 2: the position of the play has changed based on where

1570
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 2: the ballcarrier is taking it. How do you kind of

1571
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 2: cause you can't see where he's going, So how do

1572
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 2: you play that? I'm just curious because you gotta let

1573
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 2: go and just hope he can make it instead of

1574
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 2: hanging on, right, how do you work that?

1575
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1576
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 8: I mean I think for me, just like a big

1577
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 8: thing in my blocking is you know, you're kind of

1578
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 8: staring at your target where your hands are going, and

1579
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 8: I think just kind of like periffing that defender's eyes,

1580
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 8: seeing kind of when he.

1581
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 2: Starts, Oh you're watching him, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1582
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 8: Just kind of seeing his eyes because that'll take him

1583
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,560
Speaker 8: where his body goes, and you know, at least me,

1584
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 8: if it's kind of an awkward angle, I'm just out

1585
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 8: of there and kind of trusting James or raise speed.

1586
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 3: So that's you know, the running back. They know the

1587
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 3: direction and where the play is supposed to go, and

1588
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, rarely does it go exactly

1589
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 3: as you envisioned it, but you really do have to

1590
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 3: trust it. He's just going to bounce and if he

1591
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 3: bounces it, he sees something that you can't control anyway.

1592
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 3: So how you know what is your cue for? Like, okay,

1593
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 3: I'm done here.

1594
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, just kind of when I feel him his eyes

1595
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 8: looking out and then I feel him trying to separate himself.

1596
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 8: That just is kind of telling me like separate myself

1597
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,560
Speaker 8: as well. Kind of helps too also to kind of

1598
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 8: wear the same color gloves, you know, so that the

1599
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 8: refs can't see it. Anything that will help us out there.

1600
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 2: Gotta talk to Dawson about that. He's a red glove guy.

1601
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech by way of Yale. You know, you use

1602
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 2: that extra year of eligibility to go play in the ACC.

1603
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 2: I love Brent Key by the way, great coach, but

1604
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 2: maybe just walk us through that decision. There are you

1605
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 2: trying to increase your exposure from the IVY League to

1606
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 2: the ACC. Maybe just walk us through the decision to

1607
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 2: play one more year before going draft wise.

1608
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think going into that decision obviously

1609
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 8: priority number one. It's kind of a selfish decision for me.

1610
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 8: I've got one more year to play. I want to

1611
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 8: maximize that. I want to go to a spot that

1612
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 8: is going to really utilize my strengths. I felt like

1613
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 8: the offense at Tech was something that you know, they

1614
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 8: really harped on. They believed in me through those meetings

1615
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 8: and you know, through me coming out there, and I

1616
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 8: showed the passion.

1617
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 3: Man.

1618
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 8: You know, that was the first thing that I really

1619
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 8: felt from coach Key. They're one of the only programs

1620
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 8: that like, you know, I facetimed like every offensive coach

1621
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 8: got on a call with them. You know, they were

1622
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 8: really excited. I just felt like the love and what

1623
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 8: they were kind of building up, and you know, I

1624
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 8: wanted to be part of it. And you know, you

1625
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 8: look at them now, man, you know, knock on the

1626
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 8: way they're balling. They are balling right now.

1627
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 3: So what's what's been the best part about being here

1628
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 3: in Buffalo.

1629
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,640
Speaker 8: The best part, man, there's a lot of great parts. Man,

1630
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 8: I can't really pick just one. I really do like

1631
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 8: being next to the lake though, it's pretty good. There's

1632
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 8: a couple of cool like lookout spots just along the

1633
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 8: coast next to the kind of the little abandoned factories

1634
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 8: and stuff. Yeah, it's just kind of a nice place

1635
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 8: to get away and calm your mind.

1636
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 4: So that's one of them.

1637
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 2: But we should tell you player interview appearances on One

1638
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 2: Bill's Live or Presented by Tim Hortons Tim Horton's the

1639
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 2: official coffee of the Buffalo Bills. Looking at your involvement

1640
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 2: in the scope of this offense right out of the shoot, Like,

1641
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 2: obviously that's any rookies dream, because you're on the field,

1642
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 2: you're contributing right away. What what was your anticipation though

1643
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 2: coming through the spring practices. You know, you kind of

1644
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 2: got your feet on the ground, you got a feel

1645
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 2: for the scheme, you saw you were involved, but I

1646
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 2: imagine you didn't want to count your chickens. So how

1647
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 2: did you kind of parlay the spring into training camp,

1648
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 2: preseason and ultimately a roll right away?

1649
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1650
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 8: I mean I think that the you kind of come

1651
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 8: out here in May and you're like, Wow, the season

1652
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 8: is it's like three four months away. You know, it's

1653
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 8: a it's a long time away. So I think that

1654
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 8: like a big thing for me was just not getting

1655
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 8: too ahead of myself. Uh, just kind of focus on

1656
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 8: what I can control, you know, focus on that that

1657
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:30,759
Speaker 8: OTA practice or that walkthrough or whatever, and just asking

1658
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 8: questions and getting good advice from the other guys. You know, Dos,

1659
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 8: Reggie Dhal, those guys are all really good football players,

1660
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 8: but they're really smart football players too, And I just

1661
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 8: think that like leaning on them as much as I

1662
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 8: can on coach Boris Joe, kind of hearing where they

1663
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 8: where they see me fit.

1664
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been good.

1665
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 3: You've got to You've you got out of the gates.

1666
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 3: You're scoring thirty points every week, and then the last

1667
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 3: couple of weeks you've you know, you've struggled to score

1668
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,839
Speaker 3: thirty The turnovers and the and the penalties of hamstrung

1669
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 3: your ability to score points. What has been what have

1670
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 3: been the conversations, like after the last two games about

1671
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 3: what you can fix and you know where the club,

1672
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 3: where your team is, and you and your teammates are.

1673
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 8: I think they're just like standing on rhythm. You know,

1674
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 8: we're really good when we're on rhythm, good first downs,

1675
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 8: good plays, good second downs, and then kind of getting

1676
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 8: out of some of those pits. You know, you kind

1677
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,600
Speaker 8: of look statistically a lot of second and tens for

1678
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 8: us have been turning into third and tens and kind

1679
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 8: of like avoiding that, you know, through the play calling

1680
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 8: and through the execution of the plays and just kind

1681
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 8: of fine tune in the details. That was one thing

1682
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 8: that we really harped on in the meeting today was

1683
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 8: just we don't need to freak out. You know, we

1684
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 8: know we're a good offense, and we know we can

1685
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 8: run the ball really well. We know we can pass

1686
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 8: it really well. Just fine tuning stuff, getting the details right,

1687
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,679
Speaker 8: working on the blocking hands inside, running your feet, things

1688
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 8: like that.

1689
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 2: I know, it's it's a tight locker room, so tight

1690
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 2: that guys don't feel shy about teasing one another. So

1691
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 2: has there been some some Ivy League teason because there

1692
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 2: aren't a lot of you guys you know around Maybe

1693
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 2: people equate you more with Georgia Tech, But I mean,

1694
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 2: bottom line is four years in an Ivy League school

1695
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 2: and sometimes you get teased for being the braining actor stuff.

1696
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 8: You haven't got any nerds. Okay, I haven't got any nerds.

1697
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 8: I think that me maybe being kind of like this,

1698
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 8: like true why kind of like talking guy a little bit,

1699
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 8: you know he they kind of go like this, right ye,

1700
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 8: So yeah, I haven't really gotten anything.

1701
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 2: Right, So we got to ask you the fan question here,

1702
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 2: which is presented by of course Tim Horton's where we

1703
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 2: asked the fans to ask the Bills players and you

1704
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 2: need question. Raymond asks who's the toughest Bills defender to block?

1705
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 3: I think.

1706
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 8: Groups consistently me the length, power, athleticism, man, misdirection. He's

1707
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 8: he's tough. He's really tough.

1708
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 2: Because when you have a guy that long, he's usually

1709
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:52,680
Speaker 2: getting his hands on you before you can get your

1710
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 2: hands on him.

1711
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 8: Right, almost every time, almost every time.

1712
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 2: So that's got a yeah, that is a hale. That's

1713
01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 2: a battle.

1714
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, And just kind of like that too. I just

1715
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 8: kind of my role is just a lot of block

1716
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 8: in the DNS and pretty much every time I'm going

1717
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 8: against a guy with longer arms, So just kind of learning, yeah,

1718
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 8: how to be defeated.

1719
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 2: Well, listen, thanks for the time and stopping in here,

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01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 2: especially fresh off the practice field. Sorry we didn't give

1721
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 2: you time to get a shower, but we're off the

1722
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 2: air and about you for having me thirty seconds, so

1723
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 2: thanks for making time for us. We appreciate it. That's

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01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,560
Speaker 2: tight End Jackson Hawes joining us here in studio, and

1725
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 2: that's really it for us today. We got another edition

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01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 2: coming your way tomorrow on Thursday. Players back on the

1727
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 2: practice field will have all the practice updates for you

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Speaker 2: and see you tomorrow at one