Speaker 1: What's of Happy Hour listeners. I'm Beccacoufern and I'm Michelle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we are excited to be back with you again
Speaker 1: this week. Getting into the third episode of The Bachelor,
Speaker 1: I feel like we're already like flying through this season.
Speaker 1: But I'm very excited to bring on our guest Gabby today. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we're so excited we're going to be chatting with
Speaker 1: Gabby here all about her journey. It was a slow start,
Speaker 1: but now she's coming in hot talking about the Bachelor
Speaker 1: Bowl and her connection with Szach. But first before we
Speaker 1: bring her on, Becca, I feel like I haven't seen
Speaker 1: you in a minute. How are you doing, phill us
Speaker 1: in I know, I feel like you have been traveling
Speaker 1: all I'm like, I don't even know where Michelle is
Speaker 1: these days because you are bounds in between states. But
Speaker 1: I'm good. I have been traveling a little bit to
Speaker 1: this past week, and I still have more upcoming travels
Speaker 1: for some really fun stuff that we will soon be announcing.
Speaker 1: So stay tuned next week. We'll probably be able to
Speaker 1: talk about it at little bit more on the podcast.
Speaker 1: But yeah, some really fun things in the works. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I was traveling this past weekend for my wine line
Speaker 1: at some events, which was so so fun. So yeah,
Speaker 1: life's going good. I feel like we're starting to kind
Speaker 1: of pick up this new year and bounce around and
Speaker 1: just get going. How are you okay? Wait? I love that.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to now hear what you're going to
Speaker 1: be bringing up. I'll definitely be checking back in next
Speaker 1: week with that one. But for me, things have been good.
Speaker 1: I feel like every time I hop, I'm about a
Speaker 1: happy hour. I'm in a different state right now, coming
Speaker 1: from Arizona, so I'm gonna be here for some super
Speaker 1: Bowl activities. And you said that you're going to be
Speaker 1: in the area tomorrow, right I'm also coming to Arizona.
Speaker 1: I feel like just going back to you being in
Speaker 1: a new state all the time. It's like, where in
Speaker 1: the world is Carmen San Diego? That is you. I'm like,
Speaker 1: where in the country is Michelle Young these days? But yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll both be in Arizona for different fun things. It's
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize, so, like, you know me, I
Speaker 1: don't watch sports, so I just out yesterday that the
Speaker 1: super Bowl is in Arizona. Also, the waste Management Tournament
Speaker 1: is happening the same time, So it is going to
Speaker 1: be crazy town. And I mean you're there early, like
Speaker 1: is it already starting to get like super busy there? Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm right now, I'm located like in old town Scottsdale.
Speaker 1: So the super Bowl tailgate, everything that's taking place is
Speaker 1: legitimately in my backyard, like ten steps to the right,
Speaker 1: and so it's pretty cool. And so last night one
Speaker 1: of my girlfriends and I were just walking around and
Speaker 1: it's like a ghost town, but with everything starting to
Speaker 1: be like set up, and so I'm sure in the
Speaker 1: next day or two everything's going to start to get
Speaker 1: a little bit more lively. But it's like this calm
Speaker 1: before the storm. But it is going to be fun.
Speaker 1: Like you said, waste management's going on, so there's a
Speaker 1: lot of events going on with that. It's like Phoenix's
Speaker 1: own or Arizona's own super Bowl within a super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and so it's gonna be a lot so much. Well,
Speaker 1: it's so fun. Let's get into the episode really quick
Speaker 1: before Gabby hops on, what were your overall thoughts on
Speaker 1: this week three? And like, do you have any predictions?
Speaker 1: I know I asked you this last week of like
Speaker 1: any standouts or people that you think are going to
Speaker 1: make it through till the end. I can't even remember
Speaker 1: what I responded with or who I responded with last week,
Speaker 1: because I do feel like it changes so quickly, like
Speaker 1: there is That's just how Bachelor World works. When you're
Speaker 1: in it, and when you're watching it, at one minute
Speaker 1: you can absolutely like, yeah, this is the person, and
Speaker 1: then it can completely get flipped around. But I'll say
Speaker 1: that Charity. I feel like Charity is just so genuine.
Speaker 1: I feel like she's gonna make it so far, She's
Speaker 1: like my number one right now. She's who I want
Speaker 1: to make it to the end. But if she doesn't
Speaker 1: end up with Zach or if that's not the right,
Speaker 1: if it's I'm calling it now. Yeah, And I'm not
Speaker 1: calling it in the sense of like I'm predicting it. No,
Speaker 1: she needs to be the Bachelorette, like I'm nominating her. Yes,
Speaker 1: I stand by that. I really enjoy her. And and
Speaker 1: this week when I was so happy she got that
Speaker 1: group date rose, but then when Christina kind of stole
Speaker 1: that moment, I was like, nobody makes my baby cry.
Speaker 1: I was I had like this like guard dog, like
Speaker 1: mama bear mentality for her where I was like, that
Speaker 1: is not okay, and so um yeah, I agree though
Speaker 1: she's really standing out to me. I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of who else right now. I mean, like just right
Speaker 1: off of dates, I think he's very into Katie. I
Speaker 1: think that they are both like fair. They have like
Speaker 1: a very similar mentality and like way of doing life.
Speaker 1: It seems like like approaching conversations, like they're very both
Speaker 1: like even and keeled, like very chill, kind of calm,
Speaker 1: like very similar demeanors, right in a genuine way. Yeah, Katie.
Speaker 1: I think just like Katie seems like chill and fun
Speaker 1: and like honestly, like just as a viewer, I feel
Speaker 1: like if Katy and Zach were to meet out at
Speaker 1: a bar away from the television show, they would actually
Speaker 1: hit it off and like be interested in one another
Speaker 1: and want to pursue one another. It just seems like
Speaker 1: that kind of fit. Okay, I have to jump back
Speaker 1: and ask you this question. At the beginning of the episode,
Speaker 1: there was this quick overnight Yeah, what were what was it?
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts when you're watching that? Because when
Speaker 1: I was watching this, I was like, if I was
Speaker 1: on the day, it'd be like that's amazing, But then
Speaker 1: back home. What a way to just totally get a
Speaker 1: massive mind fuck already so early in the process. I
Speaker 1: would have been pissed. I I would have died for
Speaker 1: that date at the museum. I would have loved it.
Speaker 1: Do you did you throw back to old school books
Speaker 1: and movies? Did you ever watch or read the night?
Speaker 1: It was like, no, like the mixtup files of Basily Frankweiler.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what that is. I've never heard
Speaker 1: of that. Wait, wasn't the mixtup file something basilely Frank Weiler? Okay,
Speaker 1: if please DM me, if you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: It was a book. They made it into a movie.
Speaker 1: It's basically about this brother and sister who run away
Speaker 1: from home. They go and live in this museum for
Speaker 1: a while. They like sleep in Marie Antoinette's bed, and
Speaker 1: they like have to bathe in the fountains that are there.
Speaker 1: Only it was like one of my favorites. My sister
Speaker 1: and I would go to the library and rent it
Speaker 1: all the time. But that is what I'm picturing. When
Speaker 1: they had this date, I was like, this is my
Speaker 1: childhood dream. I would have loved this date and honestly,
Speaker 1: like the sleepover part. Here's what I'm thinking, And maybe
Speaker 1: it's just because I know, like the ins and outs,
Speaker 1: they probably got thirty seven minutes of sleep, like they
Speaker 1: probably filmed for along. Production was probably like okay, take
Speaker 1: a little nap and we got to get back to
Speaker 1: the house at like eight am. Like they probably think
Speaker 1: they actually got any but right, because but like in
Speaker 1: fantasy fantasy suits, like you really don't sleep that much.
Speaker 1: What I'm curious about, though, is like do you think
Speaker 1: they actually got any off camera time together like you
Speaker 1: do in fantasy suits. I'm sure they got a little bit.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they did, just because, like, let's be honest,
Speaker 1: like their crew needs to sleep and take breaks too,
Speaker 1: So I really don't think like I don't and I
Speaker 1: don't think it was like long, and I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: people like kind of around still outside of the tent,
Speaker 1: but I don't think. I don't think they were like
Speaker 1: somebody was in their tent with them the entire time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, but I also want to ask you
Speaker 1: about one more thing too, So you mentioned problematic behavior,
Speaker 1: So we need to just bring up this really quick
Speaker 1: before Gabby hops on. But the whole Christina situation between
Speaker 1: not only Brianna but some of the other girls. We
Speaker 1: see like little comments throughout the episode, like little digs,
Speaker 1: little I think, just moments that she gets under people's skin.
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on that and were you surprised
Speaker 1: that Zach actually ended up sending her home when he did,
Speaker 1: and like didn't just keep her around another week to
Speaker 1: see what would happen. Yeah, I honestly, you and I
Speaker 1: have kind of spoken about how we thought, yeah, or
Speaker 1: we thought Christina was just, you know, like gonna be this.
Speaker 1: She's funny, She's she's the one talking about all these
Speaker 1: things with the off camera like shots or not off camera,
Speaker 1: but she's she's the one that was in the bloopers
Speaker 1: or just like the little after conversations once the credits rolled, right,
Speaker 1: like that's where we really solid of personality. But I
Speaker 1: will say that after this last episode, it very much
Speaker 1: comes off as like read the room, like let's be
Speaker 1: considerate about other people's feelings, and so it's already uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: You have to talk about different details of the date,
Speaker 1: like that's how the show works. It's really awkward as
Speaker 1: it is, and a lot of times I can see
Speaker 1: that there's almost oversharing where it's you can answer a question,
Speaker 1: but you also don't have to continuously bring your like
Speaker 1: relationship to the forefront and wave it around in everybody's face.
Speaker 1: And that's what at this point I felt like was
Speaker 1: being done. And so for me, I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't like that. It's it's it gets old, it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: And even in that whole situation where Charity got this
Speaker 1: group date Rose and then the whole moment was completely
Speaker 1: just wiped out, you know, where she expected everybody's support
Speaker 1: when she came home from meeting Zack's family on the
Speaker 1: one on one and she the girl supported her and
Speaker 1: listened to her and for her too. Then take someone
Speaker 1: out after they get a group date Rose, It's like,
Speaker 1: you can't ask people to support you, and then you
Speaker 1: come and pull this moment away from somebody else. I
Speaker 1: didn't like it. I didn't That's not how I roll.
Speaker 1: So I was happy to see that zaccent Or. But
Speaker 1: I also will say that Zach really is eliminating anybody
Speaker 1: who's problematic or if he really doesn't see a future,
Speaker 1: he seems to have a strong gut reading. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: to let him go pretty early on which is his
Speaker 1: decisive I will say like I actually appreciated that because
Speaker 1: I was like, we don't need to keep her around,
Speaker 1: especially if, like you know, she's it's not just a
Speaker 1: one time instance. It's not just what one person, it's
Speaker 1: with multiple I totally respect that decision, and also like
Speaker 1: the I think the thing that really rubbed me the
Speaker 1: wrong way was the whole charity situation where she's like,
Speaker 1: that's weird. I don't understand it. I wanted to go
Speaker 1: through the screen like it's not for you to understand,
Speaker 1: Like this is Zach's journey. He's the one here trying
Speaker 1: to find somebody, and if she's not seeing these other
Speaker 1: conversations with other women, so you don't have to understand it,
Speaker 1: but you don't have to take away and shine such
Speaker 1: a negative light to somebody else. Like let that girl
Speaker 1: have this moment, like it's very fleeting in this Boucher
Speaker 1: world because so many other group dates come out and
Speaker 1: it's just there's so much transition that I was like,
Speaker 1: let her just appreciate it and just close your mouth
Speaker 1: at some points, like things are funny and it's okay
Speaker 1: to be loud and boisterous but there are also times
Speaker 1: we're just like you said, read the room, take a
Speaker 1: step back. But you know, actually, that's why I'm excited
Speaker 1: to bring Gabby on, because she lived with everyone, she
Speaker 1: witnessed all of this, so I do want to just
Speaker 1: pick her brain and see kind of like not that
Speaker 1: there was size, but just kind of see like her
Speaker 1: take on things and if it did seem as heightened
Speaker 1: as it was like during that pool party. So I
Speaker 1: think with that we should just bring Gabby on right now.
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, welcome Gabby to Happy Hour. Obviously this is
Speaker 1: your first time hopping on here. Have you done any
Speaker 1: other podcast before? I've never done a podcast, so thank
Speaker 1: you for having me. I apologize if I have any
Speaker 1: nervous shitters, but I'm super excited helping her and it
Speaker 1: totally girl chat. But for those who are listening, can't
Speaker 1: see this right now, Gabby is in the middle of
Speaker 1: her work day and she's in her office. Correct. I
Speaker 1: love this though. I love a focused queen. That's amazing. Yep,
Speaker 1: the grind doesn't stop. So here we are. She came
Speaker 1: in hot professional with the blazer. We love a good
Speaker 1: blazer look. So just to start, Gabby, catch us up
Speaker 1: on how you're doing. How has it been watching yourself
Speaker 1: back on TV. I'm sure it's kind of weird and
Speaker 1: unsettling at times. Yeah, it's, Um, it's been kind of funny,
Speaker 1: um because I remember how I felt like a doll
Speaker 1: can relate to this, like how you feel in the
Speaker 1: moment versus watching it on TV all back you like,
Speaker 1: it's totally different. Um, but it's kind of funny. I've
Speaker 1: been watching with my close friends and they just kind
Speaker 1: of chuckle at me and they're like, now you're being
Speaker 1: so yourself, and I'm like, well, that's that's all you
Speaker 1: can be. So I mean, it's been really positive at
Speaker 1: least for me and my experience so far. So it's been.
Speaker 1: It's been weird but exciting. I think that's one of
Speaker 1: the best things though, is a lot of people get
Speaker 1: negative reactions, like internal negative reactions watching it back, because
Speaker 1: the camera can kind of be or the show can
Speaker 1: kind of be a mirror sometimes and if you lose
Speaker 1: your way while you're there and you're not yourself, then
Speaker 1: you when you're watching it back, you're like almost not
Speaker 1: necessarily cringing, right, but you're like uncomfortable. Whereas I love
Speaker 1: that hearing that your friends and just like the people
Speaker 1: around you and yourself are like, okay, I'm totally I
Speaker 1: was totally one hundred percent myself. Yeah, I didn't want
Speaker 1: to have any regrets, and you know it, it felt
Speaker 1: weird at first, and it took me a long time
Speaker 1: to like not a long time, a long time in
Speaker 1: Bachelor World to get used to the cameras being around.
Speaker 1: And I think that you can really see that, and
Speaker 1: I know, like it's kind of like people are joking
Speaker 1: on the internet, like Gabby how to come back in
Speaker 1: the last episode. But it took an adjustment for me
Speaker 1: to like be okay with the cameras there, and like
Speaker 1: I was still being myself, but it was a lot
Speaker 1: of stimulation and it was a lot to handle and
Speaker 1: to process and to like regulate all my emotions. It
Speaker 1: was a learning curve in a really weird way. But
Speaker 1: I feel like every side that people saw, people are
Speaker 1: like callably, like Gabby's all over the place. Yes I am,
Speaker 1: but it was all me so but it's real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And and like I'm I can understand the cameras and
Speaker 1: just like the crew being around because it's a lot
Speaker 1: of people and like it's not until you step out
Speaker 1: of the limbo of that night one where you're like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, like I did not know what I was
Speaker 1: signing up for. But not only that, Like also living
Speaker 1: with twenty thirty girls is a lot too, so many
Speaker 1: different personalities. It's hard at times, like especially right away
Speaker 1: to even speak and like I feel like you have
Speaker 1: a moment when they're so much going on. So I'm
Speaker 1: sure that had a plane too, where there's just like
Speaker 1: so many people, so many personalities, and of course like
Speaker 1: trying to fight for the same guy. So I want
Speaker 1: to know though, like getting on to Zach's season, were
Speaker 1: you a fan of the show before? How did you
Speaker 1: get cast? Like what was that process for you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So before I went on the show, I actually had
Speaker 1: gone through a pretty bad breakup. I dated this guy
Speaker 1: for a few years and it was just it wasn't
Speaker 1: the most healthy relationship, and so the breakup was really
Speaker 1: hard on me. I felt like I had invested a
Speaker 1: lot of my time and effort and energy into it,
Speaker 1: and coming out of it, I was heartbroken. And my
Speaker 1: friends saw me like that and they were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have so much to give. So they all nominated
Speaker 1: me to go on the show. They're like, you'll be
Speaker 1: perfect for this. You have to like just at least try,
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, I'm not sure. But I
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time investing in therapy and investing
Speaker 1: in myself and healing, and obviously a healing journey, it's
Speaker 1: not you know all of a sudden you're healed. But
Speaker 1: I knew what I wanted and I was able to
Speaker 1: really discover that through therapy of like what did worthwhile
Speaker 1: love look like to me? And obviously trying to find
Speaker 1: it myself didn't really work out, and so I went
Speaker 1: on the show. I didn't I'd watched a few seasons,
Speaker 1: but I didn't. I'm not like a diehard Bachelor fan,
Speaker 1: but my sister loved a Bachelor. She always would watch
Speaker 1: with my grandma, which is really funny. So she was
Speaker 1: very supportive of me going on the show. And she
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, but you just you gotta do it.
Speaker 1: And so I was definitely nervous because I had been
Speaker 1: so heartbroken, but you know, like you can't just stop
Speaker 1: trying in life. So I put myself out there. I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it when I got the call, like, hey,
Speaker 1: we want you to be on the show. I was like,
Speaker 1: wait what, Um, I wasn't expecting that, but I'm so
Speaker 1: so grateful that I that I went through with it. Well,
Speaker 1: we're incredibly happy that you also said yes, because then
Speaker 1: we can get to watch you on our screens every week.
Speaker 1: So you get here, you get to the Vaschelor Mansion,
Speaker 1: it's night one, taking it from the top. You exit
Speaker 1: the limo, and you hand Zach maple syrup. Yes, Um,
Speaker 1: I thought us going differently in my head. Um first, okay,
Speaker 1: wait take us from what what? How did you want
Speaker 1: it to go or how did you see it in
Speaker 1: your head? First? Well, I consider myself kind of like
Speaker 1: Buddy the Elf. If you guys have seen that movie,
Speaker 1: I would assume um, and you know, syrup is one
Speaker 1: of the four main food groups. Um. And as a Vermonter, like,
Speaker 1: my favorite thing to do is like take my friends
Speaker 1: who visit me to like maple syrup farm and have
Speaker 1: them tryal to syrup ups. And like, as a child
Speaker 1: growing up, going to the maple syrup farm and tasting
Speaker 1: the syrups was like my favorite thing to do. And um,
Speaker 1: I just felt like it was like a piece of
Speaker 1: home with me. And it's so sweet and delicious. I
Speaker 1: was not expecting him to not like it, but I
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna throw up. Honestly, I was, Um,
Speaker 1: I think you can hear me say like, I didn't
Speaker 1: like that face. Um, he did not like it? So
Speaker 1: well does he not like pancakes or waffles? Like? Does
Speaker 1: he eat them plain? Because I'm thinking like, like syrups
Speaker 1: not that like not polarizing of a thing to drink,
Speaker 1: Like if we're talking about like taking shots of something,
Speaker 1: you'd think that. I'm like, I didn't give you alcohol,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like this is like the win here. Um,
Speaker 1: but no, the preference I guess for people who aren't
Speaker 1: from you know, Canada or Vermont, it's fake maple syrups.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was really just funny. So okay, wow,
Speaker 1: well so do you feel like you should have brought
Speaker 1: something for him to put the syrup on your lips? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: I should just put it all over me. And they're
Speaker 1: like here, here you go, look it off here. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this man tries to syrup, he doesn't like it.
Speaker 1: You're not really sure how it goes. You get into
Speaker 1: the whole night one and you didn't get to talk
Speaker 1: to him. Were you like holy shit, I'm going home
Speaker 1: because of maple syrup or what like. Honestly, what's syrup
Speaker 1: maybe was what might save me because I was like, well,
Speaker 1: he didn't like it, but he probably remembers it, so
Speaker 1: at least we have that. So I didn't get to
Speaker 1: talk to him, but I wasn't the only one who
Speaker 1: didn't get to talk to him. And you know, we
Speaker 1: had a fluid conversation when I first got out of
Speaker 1: the limo, and I was like, you know what, that
Speaker 1: was really easy. We spent like two minutes standing there
Speaker 1: talking to one another, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: some of these girls are only getting two minutes, So
Speaker 1: maybe it's not the end of the world. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: enough to keep you around. Um, but it was definitely scary.
Speaker 1: But I think you get to some point in the
Speaker 1: night and you're like, it's so you know, it's so
Speaker 1: late and I'm so tired. And I remember I wore
Speaker 1: my shoes all night long and they were aggressively tall,
Speaker 1: like probably like six or so inches. Terrible idea, um,
Speaker 1: not smart on my part, but I wore them all
Speaker 1: night just in case I would get a chance to
Speaker 1: talk to him. It didn't happen. Um, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was stressful, but I just kind of remained hopeful, like,
Speaker 1: well maybe he'll remember me from the maple syrup who
Speaker 1: needs an energy drink? Okay, So how did you feel
Speaker 1: then standing at that rose ceremony, obviously not being able
Speaker 1: to chat with him? Besides that very first interaction, he
Speaker 1: does call your name, you do get a rose? What
Speaker 1: was that feeling? Like? Wow? Um, as you guys probably saw,
Speaker 1: my reaction was like, oh, like I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 1: And then I walked over and um, yeah, I actually
Speaker 1: tried to grab the rose from him and that's yeah.
Speaker 1: And then I was like obviously, of course, Um, so
Speaker 1: I was surprised. I was surprised, like really eager and
Speaker 1: really excited. Um, but it was I knew I was
Speaker 1: with Like, as the names were getting called, there was
Speaker 1: other girls who hadn't talked to him yet, so I
Speaker 1: was hopeful. I was like, okay, like trying to do
Speaker 1: the math in my head. I was like, Okay, we
Speaker 1: have this many roses, this many girls haven't spoken to him. Okay,
Speaker 1: now two girls have been called we haven't spoken to him?
Speaker 1: Does that leave how many girls? I was like doing
Speaker 1: math in my head that didn't make any sense at all,
Speaker 1: but I was. I was pleasantly surprised when he called
Speaker 1: my name. Yeah, it was a key moment. I liked
Speaker 1: your reaction. It so just genuine. Let's quickly talk about
Speaker 1: last week because you become one of the standouts for sure.
Speaker 1: You have this one on one time was Zach. It
Speaker 1: was so sweet and you seemed like you're nervous and
Speaker 1: because you're worried that I was coming off as like
Speaker 1: the Gabby show. But can you tell us a little
Speaker 1: bit more of like that first one on one convo
Speaker 1: with Zach? Yeah? Um, it was a lot um I think,
Speaker 1: you know, being the second group date, you have that
Speaker 1: anticipation where you're kind of waiting around. You're hearing like, okay,
Speaker 1: I've heard about the one on one, I've heard about
Speaker 1: the group date. We have two rosens given out, and
Speaker 1: now it's finally our time to go on our date
Speaker 1: with him. But it felt like I was so behind
Speaker 1: everyone else at that moment because he had already had
Speaker 1: all these other conversations, right, that's like thirteen fourteen him
Speaker 1: and he's had one on one conversations with and so
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if I can catch
Speaker 1: up like they had the first night. Now they've had
Speaker 1: these states, and so I got a little bit in
Speaker 1: my head to be honest with you, and I think
Speaker 1: the environment, like I said earlier, it's very overstimulating. And
Speaker 1: I have ADHD, which I'm totally comfortable talking about, and
Speaker 1: you know, I'm very aware of it. But there's a
Speaker 1: lot of emotional regulation that you have to like work on,
Speaker 1: and that's something I've been working on for years. But
Speaker 1: when you're in an environment that's so overstimulating, it can
Speaker 1: be really difficult to find that regulation of your emotions.
Speaker 1: And so for me, you know, finally getting the opportunity
Speaker 1: to sit down and talk to him, it's late. I'm tired.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of comparison you're doing. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of sensitivities you're feeling, and then there's on
Speaker 1: top of that, there's the distractions of the environment just
Speaker 1: in it's and so, you know, I had all these
Speaker 1: things I wanted to probably talk to them about, and
Speaker 1: I came up with nicknames. Don't know where that came from.
Speaker 1: I do love nicknames, and I give everyone nicknames, but
Speaker 1: that's probably like more it gives some context to the
Speaker 1: roller coaster that people saw of like my emotions and
Speaker 1: then the emotions that came after that conversation of the
Speaker 1: like sensitivity because emotions hit you really hard and really
Speaker 1: fast when you're ADHD and so a lot of people
Speaker 1: maybe don't understand that or know that, but I'm comfortable
Speaker 1: talking about that, but I think it does help people understand, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: how did you do a one eighty when you talk
Speaker 1: to him before the rose ceremony? Because I figured out, Okay,
Speaker 1: what do you need to do to regulate your emotions
Speaker 1: in this kind of environment? And I'm so grateful that
Speaker 1: I have had the tools and the therapy and the
Speaker 1: psychiatrists to teach me those tools to be able to
Speaker 1: do that. But it was a lot in the beginning.
Speaker 1: So there's a very long winded and s are for
Speaker 1: you all, but um no, that's that's how it's feeling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it made it made a lot of sense. I actually
Speaker 1: really appreciate you to explaining that and just being vulnerable
Speaker 1: to share that side of things, because I think that's
Speaker 1: a perspective that a lot of people who aren't dealing
Speaker 1: with you know anything, or dealing with similar similar things
Speaker 1: might not think about and you add the learning curve
Speaker 1: of just like you said, the cameras, the lack of sleep, um,
Speaker 1: just all the commotion that's going on. It would that
Speaker 1: adds a whole different layer. Yeah, but you did land
Speaker 1: on Zachie pooh, and I feel like it's stuck. Correct.
Speaker 1: I like, yah, Zach's cute. Yeah, he didn't seem like
Speaker 1: he really liked it, And I was like, come on, man,
Speaker 1: like this gives you some edge, like it's cute, it's sweet,
Speaker 1: it's endearing. Um okay, So I want to then go
Speaker 1: into you just you know, like obviously it was kind
Speaker 1: of a roller coaster that first conversation, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: also too, like hearing how other conversations with the woman went,
Speaker 1: Like hearing if he kissed them or not plays a
Speaker 1: huge role into that, and kind of like the comparison
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, I feel behind already, maybe I'm getting
Speaker 1: more behind. But you did turn it around because the
Speaker 1: next time at that cocktail party, you I loved this.
Speaker 1: The peanut butter cups was so cute, a little lady
Speaker 1: in the tramp style move. How did you feel when
Speaker 1: you finally had like the real conversation with him, and
Speaker 1: then you got that kiss. What was that Like? It
Speaker 1: was so reassuring and like I was like finally, like
Speaker 1: I can take a deep breath, Like finally, I feel
Speaker 1: like that was a normal conversation that wasn't forced, It
Speaker 1: wasn't like awkward, it wasn't intimidating. It just felt like
Speaker 1: finally and I could like take that deep breath, you know.
Speaker 1: I think leading up to that, I kind of got
Speaker 1: to a point where I was like, you know, you
Speaker 1: just need to like relax, take a deep breath, and
Speaker 1: like try to just focus on this one thing. And
Speaker 1: that's what I did, and it just felt very finally
Speaker 1: felt like natural, um yea and not as distracted. Give
Speaker 1: us the deets I need to know. Is Zach a
Speaker 1: good kisser? Uh? Decent kisser? Met? Like I really want
Speaker 1: to know, ge, Yes, honest, you won't get in trouble
Speaker 1: if you tell us the truth. Well, our kiss was
Speaker 1: a little bit peanut buttery, um, which was I mean,
Speaker 1: it's an acquired taste that I love. I think so too.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, a little peanut butter, a little chocolate,
Speaker 1: I love it. Um. No, I thought we had a
Speaker 1: good kiss, like rating it on the scale of first kisses. Um,
Speaker 1: it was long anticipated. I was I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever been that nervous for our first kiss in my
Speaker 1: whole life. Um, but I thought it was pretty good.
Speaker 1: What I will say about Zach is I think his
Speaker 1: kissing style is very accommodating to the other person. That's
Speaker 1: a compliment. He catches a vibe because I was obviously
Speaker 1: you guys saw us talking about you know, do you
Speaker 1: use tongue? Do you not use tongue like I think
Speaker 1: he's good at like reading the room or reading theos
Speaker 1: and what's going on. Yes, I think he knows how
Speaker 1: to catch a vibe. That's a that's we have. We
Speaker 1: like an accommodating man. I like that. Okay, he adapts. Okay.
Speaker 1: So this week you played in like a long standing
Speaker 1: bachelor tradition, the Bachelor Bowl. And when you pulled up
Speaker 1: to the field, what were your first thoughts with what
Speaker 1: was happening, what was going to be expected on the day. Um, well,
Speaker 1: I was very nervous. I knew it was all I
Speaker 1: knew the second we got that day. Card I was like,
Speaker 1: there's too many girls on here for it to not
Speaker 1: be the Bachelor Bowl. Was It was it like, are
Speaker 1: we you excited about that? Or you're like, crap, are
Speaker 1: you athletic? Like do you consider yourself athletic? Um? Does
Speaker 1: that face say it at all? Um? Okay? So I
Speaker 1: would say I work out and I am athletic, but
Speaker 1: I am not aggressive. So for me, the idea of
Speaker 1: like being aggressive and like tackling someone is not like
Speaker 1: let's say we're doing like a like a a race
Speaker 1: or like an obstacle course. Hell yeah, I'm in there,
Speaker 1: like so a'mwhere like I will dominate. But the idea
Speaker 1: of tackling people and then being tackled, that was a
Speaker 1: lot and I was not ready for it. Well, and
Speaker 1: there was there was extra stakes because he told you
Speaker 1: whatever team wins gets to go to the cocktail party,
Speaker 1: whoever loses has to go home sianara. So like did
Speaker 1: that change your mindset going in? And I'm sure did
Speaker 1: in some capacity, but like when you heard that, what
Speaker 1: was going through your head? Oh? Yeah? I was like,
Speaker 1: oh perfect, like another missed opportunity to like progress my
Speaker 1: relationship with Zach, Like no way, there's absolutely no way.
Speaker 1: Well there was a way. Um uh yeah, So I
Speaker 1: was stressed. I was angry. I was like are you kidding?
Speaker 1: Like now another after party that I might not attend
Speaker 1: so that we can get even more behind. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it was it was like a lot. Okay, So were
Speaker 1: you confident with like your team, like who is on
Speaker 1: remind us who was on your team? Well? Um, we
Speaker 1: had me Dhabia, Jen, Um Greer, Anastasia and who am
Speaker 1: I missing? Oh um Brianna. I think that was it? Okay,
Speaker 1: quite sure? Who did you think was going to be
Speaker 1: like the if you were to choose like a captain
Speaker 1: of your the yellow team, who would have been? Like?
Speaker 1: Who was? Like? Jen was our MVP all the way.
Speaker 1: She is very athletic, she knows football, so she was
Speaker 1: like and I think, see, we didn't have any workout
Speaker 1: girlies on our season, I guess besides Christina did CrossFit
Speaker 1: and then Jen was very athletic. And then I somehow
Speaker 1: got looped in as like one of those workout girlies.
Speaker 1: I was like, I work out, but like, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not a football girl. And so I think Jen
Speaker 1: really thought that I was gonna help her a lot
Speaker 1: with knowing football. But she was doing as all these
Speaker 1: plays and I was like that sounds awesome. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what you're saying. You're speaking a different language, and
Speaker 1: you can see, like you'll see it's very obvious. I
Speaker 1: do not know football because in the beginning of the game,
Speaker 1: I remember I didn't know that you were supposed to
Speaker 1: like touch the ball. I thought you were not supposed
Speaker 1: touch the ball. Wait, what do you mean, like not
Speaker 1: touch them up with that somewhere? So I ran away
Speaker 1: from the ball. I literally would be you. I feel
Speaker 1: like during this group, Dad, I would be the same way.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'm just gonna go stand over here.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fake an injury so i can hang out
Speaker 1: with Zachie pooh m. And just you would be the
Speaker 1: one to fake. You'd be the one to fake in
Speaker 1: and no, I'd actually probably stay in the game and
Speaker 1: I would it would take me a little bit to
Speaker 1: get like acclimated into it, but I'd probably then be like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fucking hit up everyone, give my aggression out.
Speaker 1: But um yeah, I just want to clarify for everyone
Speaker 1: because I was like, who is Jen, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: remember a Jen. Jenevie is who you're talking about? Who's
Speaker 1: on your team? And shed out like watching the episode,
Speaker 1: she did very very well, so just for the listeners,
Speaker 1: who's like if you're like me, and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't know who Jen is, It's jene Be. Um okay, Gabby,
Speaker 1: I also relate to you in this scenario about the
Speaker 1: peeing the pants, okay. And I'm not sure if you
Speaker 1: were embarrassed about that or not, But when I was
Speaker 1: watching knew, I'm like, we have all been there if
Speaker 1: you have not peach your pants a little bit at
Speaker 1: some point, whether it's playing a game, whether it's like
Speaker 1: when you're dancing, like your line, if you haven't peed
Speaker 1: your pants a little bit. So honestly, I don't think
Speaker 1: you should embarrass and embarrassed at all about it. And
Speaker 1: did you think that that part was gonna be shown? Like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're always miked up, but there's like some
Speaker 1: things that you don't think like we'll ever error. Did
Speaker 1: you think that they would show that? Um? I was.
Speaker 1: I was quite confident that that would be shown, muse
Speaker 1: because I went into the day and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna put my body on the line and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna crush this, like I'm gonna get aggressive if
Speaker 1: I have to, Like I'm just gonna come out of
Speaker 1: my shell and be you know, a football player for
Speaker 1: the day. Well, you know, there was other plans for
Speaker 1: me that that blunt force that pulled me down. It
Speaker 1: was so hard, and I was also nervous, Like do
Speaker 1: you think, like, Okay, I'm staying hydrated because we're in
Speaker 1: the California sun. Then I've got these nerves and jitters
Speaker 1: because the boy I like is watching me try to
Speaker 1: catch up football run across the field like there's a
Speaker 1: lot going on. The nerves were giving me the nervous
Speaker 1: piece in itself and then you throw me to the ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was bad, but have no fear. I've consulted
Speaker 1: my doctor. We are good. Everything is good. We're working
Speaker 1: on it. M Yeah, it's going to happen now or
Speaker 1: when you have kids, And honestly you might your team
Speaker 1: might not have one, but you definitely won the relatable card.
Speaker 1: Cheers to you for that. Thank you. I'm actually kind
Speaker 1: of glad that they showed it because I feel like
Speaker 1: every episode we get like clips of like realness, and
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like there's things that people don't
Speaker 1: always want to talk about it, and so I'm so
Speaker 1: good that it was the highlight reel highlight reel. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I thought it was. I think it's funny. I mean
Speaker 1: I couldn't help it. I mean it was honestly like
Speaker 1: a little bit alarming to me. And actually I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm fine, I just a little bit.
Speaker 1: That was hard. Yeah, so I got tackled twice, like
Speaker 1: really hard, and that was one of them. And that
Speaker 1: did occur. So, I mean, you guys really did give
Speaker 1: it your best effort though, but unfortunately the Yellow team
Speaker 1: fell short that day. How disappointing was it that you
Speaker 1: would not be able to go to this after party?
Speaker 1: It was very disappointing, not only like emotionally, but like physically.
Speaker 1: I was drained and hurting, like I hyper extended my
Speaker 1: knee and I was like, I was like, oh this hurts,
Speaker 1: and anyone this sounds silly, but anyone who has dipped
Speaker 1: nails will understand this. I had three of them ripped off,
Speaker 1: and my fingers were like throbbing from that. I just
Speaker 1: also peeped my pants, so like, there were so many
Speaker 1: emotions I was feeling, and then you don't get to
Speaker 1: talk to the guy who you've just put it all
Speaker 1: out there for. But I think he saw our effort,
Speaker 1: so I at least left knowing like, Okay, you put
Speaker 1: it all out there, you tried your best, like there's
Speaker 1: only so much you can do, but it was super disappointing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, the end, the end to an already rough
Speaker 1: day date. It's hopefully you guys just were able to
Speaker 1: get home, shower, drink a lot of wine so you
Speaker 1: couldn't feel the pain as much. But okay, so that night,
Speaker 1: you know, half of you went home, half still went
Speaker 1: to the date. And it was in the middle of
Speaker 1: that cocktail party. Were not cocktail party, but like that
Speaker 1: evening portion that you guys saw Bailey's suitcase being wheeled
Speaker 1: out of the mansion, did you expect that, Like, did
Speaker 1: you think that they had a stronger connection? And were
Speaker 1: you very surprised in that moment? I was very surprised
Speaker 1: by Bailey leaving, I mean when we were so actually
Speaker 1: what happened, Like the way I found out is I
Speaker 1: got up really early that next morning and and somebody
Speaker 1: else was up super early before the other girls, And
Speaker 1: it was almost like word of mouth, like somebody told me.
Speaker 1: So I didn't know all of the details, but I
Speaker 1: heard about and I was just like initially so shocked,
Speaker 1: and I think that's just because she I mean, she's
Speaker 1: so cool and so beautiful, and like, it seemed like
Speaker 1: they had a great connection. And from everything you hear,
Speaker 1: and that's every girl right talking about their relationship with
Speaker 1: someone else or with Zach, you know they're explaining in
Speaker 1: you're hearing the highlights of it, right, You're not necessarily
Speaker 1: hearing all of the like negatives or you know, the
Speaker 1: parts where it's like not going super awesome. So I
Speaker 1: probably didn't know all the details or the nuances of
Speaker 1: how their conversations were going. But from an outsider's perspective,
Speaker 1: I was absolutely shocked to see her go and really
Speaker 1: sad because she was, you know, so fun. It's sad
Speaker 1: to see any girl go, and so you lose a friend,
Speaker 1: and then you're also like what happened? So it's so
Speaker 1: many emotions. Who were you really close with in the house,
Speaker 1: like either night one throughout, and like even though who
Speaker 1: would you say you're like your best friends from the
Speaker 1: show are I think we were so lucky with our
Speaker 1: group of girls. The girls are all so cool, so nice,
Speaker 1: and I'm friends with everyone pretty much. I would consider
Speaker 1: myself friends with everyone. I think initially I really clicked
Speaker 1: with Jess and Katie and Ariel. Those are two of
Speaker 1: two or three of the girls that I felt like, oh,
Speaker 1: I really really get these girls and they really get
Speaker 1: me and we it felt like I'd known them for
Speaker 1: a really long time. But overall, all of the girls
Speaker 1: are just great. So we do like the camaraderie we're
Speaker 1: seeing this season. Yeah, yeah, seems like you guys have
Speaker 1: each other's back for sure. Yeah. It was like I
Speaker 1: was so scared because I watched Complete in season before
Speaker 1: to get output inspiration of all things, and I was marked. Sorry,
Speaker 1: oh my god, am I about to get like bullied,
Speaker 1: like crazy bullied on the show. I was super scared.
Speaker 1: But no, we didn't. It wasn't like that. The girls
Speaker 1: were so great. So it seems like, okay, let's get
Speaker 1: into this pool party and some not even like major
Speaker 1: major drama, but like there was a situation between us
Speaker 1: Christina and you know, Brianna and some of the other women.
Speaker 1: Just from your standpoint, since you lived with everyone, can
Speaker 1: you just speak a little bit about that whole scenario,
Speaker 1: Like did you witness Christina like ever being too much,
Speaker 1: like too open about her relationship with Zach and like
Speaker 1: kind of putting anyone else down. Yeah. I think for me,
Speaker 1: I was so hyperfixed on like my relationship with Zach
Speaker 1: and probably a little bit my own world of you know,
Speaker 1: I need to figure out, like how I'm going to
Speaker 1: progress my relationship. I was a little bit focused on that.
Speaker 1: But obviously, like these things happen and you have to
Speaker 1: be aware of them because it's all around you. So
Speaker 1: when everything happened that pool party, it was very disappointing
Speaker 1: because we were having such a fun day and I
Speaker 1: think that you know, people do have personalities and not
Speaker 1: everyone is going to click like you put thirty women together.
Speaker 1: There's no way everyone clicks with one another in personalities
Speaker 1: and you know, the way people speak are it's going
Speaker 1: to clash and that's just human nature. So it was
Speaker 1: unfortunate because I think it really took away from the
Speaker 1: fun of like the day and the day we were
Speaker 1: all having together. But I think that it's necessary, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're feeling a certain way to feel safe with
Speaker 1: your partner, to go and have those conversations. And I
Speaker 1: think we are all adults, so having those conversations with
Speaker 1: other adults that is important, Like how can you. You know,
Speaker 1: it's only your problem unless you make it someone else's.
Speaker 1: And so I think that those conversations needed to happen,
Speaker 1: but it was definitely a little bit disappointing. But people
Speaker 1: have personalities and not everyone will mesh. So throughout that day,
Speaker 1: when things started to get more tense, and you know,
Speaker 1: Brianna like take it. Take it to the moment, like
Speaker 1: Brianna just left and all of the women are sitting together,
Speaker 1: you know, you're all hanging out. Zach comes in and
Speaker 1: he basically addresses the situation of like why she went
Speaker 1: home and that there he mentions, there's somebody in the
Speaker 1: mansion that's kind of probably some like multiple not just Branna,
Speaker 1: but multiple women the wrong way and making comments and
Speaker 1: just kind of putting them down and making them feel uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: it seemed, and this and this just could be like
Speaker 1: kind of what was shown, but like as if you
Speaker 1: were it seems like when you're all together and Christie
Speaker 1: is sitting there, like it didn't really seem like she
Speaker 1: was aware that it would have been directed towards her.
Speaker 1: You know. Obviously after that he pulled her aside to
Speaker 1: have a conversation, but at any point, like were you
Speaker 1: aware that she was the one making some people feel
Speaker 1: uncomfortable and that she would be the one that he
Speaker 1: would pull, or like what was going through your mind
Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, it might be somebody else, it
Speaker 1: could be her, Like where was your head at? So
Speaker 1: I do remember in that moment, you know, it wasn't
Speaker 1: clear if it was like one person or multiple people,
Speaker 1: and that was like giving me some confusion. But I
Speaker 1: also remember, you know, the girls saying we had and
Speaker 1: I tried as remain Switzerland. I'm just gonna say that,
Speaker 1: like I tried to stay out of the drama. But
Speaker 1: like obviously you hear things and you hear people talking
Speaker 1: you're living in a house together. But I knew that
Speaker 1: there had been something at the date like the cocktail
Speaker 1: party where I wasn't because it was after the football
Speaker 1: game and we had lost, and I know that there
Speaker 1: was some like tensions from that, and but I didn't
Speaker 1: know like all the contexts, all the details, and honestly,
Speaker 1: like like I said, like I was focused on my
Speaker 1: relationship with Zach, so not the time or place where
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm about to get
Speaker 1: myself all into this drama, and like what's going on.
Speaker 1: So I tried to like take a step back and
Speaker 1: let everyone figure it out as adults and have conversations
Speaker 1: that needed to be had, but stay out of it.
Speaker 1: So I knew that there was already tensions though between
Speaker 1: maybe more than one person, but I knew it was
Speaker 1: all going to unfold. Would you say that you were
Speaker 1: busy daydreaming about spreading sunscreen over Zach at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the food party? How did you? Well, guys, you've
Speaker 1: got to jump at your opportunity, and I love them
Speaker 1: to have a few, few and far between of them
Speaker 1: in the beginning. Um so, yeah, No, I saw that sunscreen.
Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna get a sunburn. I said, well,
Speaker 1: let me help you with that. Um, you know, got
Speaker 1: to protect my man's And then the sunscreen just magically
Speaker 1: appears in your hand. Yeah it was. I was like, oh, perfect,
Speaker 1: right here, let me just put this all over you.
Speaker 1: I did put a little bit too much. I think
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, we can chill, it's okay, extra
Speaker 1: rubbed down. I would do the same. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: you got to spend more time letting it soak in,
Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't. Yeah, No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have rubbed sunscreen on Zach. But I would say that
Speaker 1: if the person of who I was going after it
Speaker 1: just dumped the whole bottle. Yeah, I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna put as much on there so I can
Speaker 1: just keep touching you. Yeah. Um no, it was a
Speaker 1: great opportunity. You stole it and I love to see it. Um. Okay,
Speaker 1: before we get into the next part of this interview,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a wild week in Boutchelor mansion.
Speaker 1: We saw a couple of girls go home, like not
Speaker 1: even at the Roaster money there's only Christina who went
Speaker 1: home at the rost ceremony. So fast forward to like
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Without giving too much away,
Speaker 1: can you tease anything fun of what's to come, like
Speaker 1: what we can expect. M m, that's tough not teasing
Speaker 1: too much. I think that there this season, like you
Speaker 1: will see a lot of love, and you'll see a
Speaker 1: lot of emotions and probably some of the most genuine people,
Speaker 1: Like you'll get to know some of the most genuine
Speaker 1: people that I've ever met. And I do think that
Speaker 1: there is a lot of love between the girls with Zach,
Speaker 1: and I think it's like a really unique It's a
Speaker 1: unique season from what I've seen of the other seasons.
Speaker 1: I think this is a actual season. Oh special season.
Speaker 1: I like it. I'll take it very much. So well, Gabby,
Speaker 1: We've enjoyed chatting with you so much today. And before
Speaker 1: we let you go, we're gonna play a quick round
Speaker 1: of something called rapid fire. So we're gonna give you
Speaker 1: questions just to get to know you a little bit
Speaker 1: more emphasis on the word rappids. You don't have to
Speaker 1: give an explanation, just your answer, and Becca and I
Speaker 1: will swap back and forth asking you questions. Are you
Speaker 1: ready to go? I'm ready? Okay, here we go. Are
Speaker 1: you an early riser or a night owl? Oh? My god,
Speaker 1: depends on the day. Okay, all right, we'll take it.
Speaker 1: What is the best stating advice you've ever received? You
Speaker 1: can't change people? What is your go to pizza order?
Speaker 1: I'm really boring, I just like cheese. Can't What is
Speaker 1: one word that your best friends would use to describe you.
Speaker 1: What is your favorite curse word? You can say it too.
Speaker 1: You can say everyone gets caught up on this one.
Speaker 1: I have some weird words I say, like that aren't
Speaker 1: cuss words that are cuss words, and then I also
Speaker 1: use cuss words. Um, I probably say I dropped the
Speaker 1: F bomb a lot, which is pretty bad. I need
Speaker 1: to work on that. And then you're your your u um,
Speaker 1: I say, oh my god, there's so many things I say,
Speaker 1: Like I say fudge a lot, but that's not one
Speaker 1: of the weird ones. But like I'm gonna know, it's
Speaker 1: hard to be on the spot, Like I know, see
Speaker 1: that's a weird thing. I say, my Lanta, nothing to
Speaker 1: shake a stick at in there, like swimwear mente be.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, guys, the nicknames were just about everything.
Speaker 1: It's len't just shake a stick. And I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: saying that now. Yeah. Um okay, what is the most
Speaker 1: played song or artist in your library? I love Drake
Speaker 1: like I love Drake so much. Um, yes, anythink Drake? Okay?
Speaker 1: What is your favorite cocktail? Um depends like who I'm
Speaker 1: trying to embody that night I'm trying to be like
Speaker 1: frisky or if I'm trying to be feisty. Um My
Speaker 1: goats would probably be like any kind of like gin cocktail.
Speaker 1: I love a gin tonic? Yes? And does that? Does
Speaker 1: that cue the feisty or does that? What? What version
Speaker 1: do we get with gin? That's like my fun side. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: love it. If you could be any animal, what would
Speaker 1: you be? Um? I would be a dolphin. I could
Speaker 1: see that. Actually, just friendly sees a dolphin and they're like,
Speaker 1: I hate that creature, somebody without a soul? No, but
Speaker 1: what is the current screensaver on your phone? Mine? Is
Speaker 1: me playing with my dad as a little kid, and
Speaker 1: I'm going you a kiss on his lap, like, oh
Speaker 1: little beanie, Oh I know. Okay, that's that is I
Speaker 1: have to say, one of the best screensavers we've seen.
Speaker 1: That's he that's here the late Um. Okay, if you
Speaker 1: could visit one place in the world, where would you go? Um,
Speaker 1: I'd love to go to like Bora Bora m seems
Speaker 1: really sexy. Seems really sexy. Yeah, I couldn't be mad
Speaker 1: at that. And you kind of briefly describe this a
Speaker 1: little bit. But if you had to choose a different word,
Speaker 1: if you're describing this season at a Bachelor in one
Speaker 1: word or phrase, what would it be? This sounds like cliche?
Speaker 1: But love okay, love love. Well, we are excited to
Speaker 1: see more of you okay, So Gabby, before we let
Speaker 1: you go, we always do a couple of fun last
Speaker 1: housekeeping things. Um, so we always start with our resource,
Speaker 1: which is just helping keep our listeners informed around timely topics,
Speaker 1: especially in regards to race in this country, in this franchise.
Speaker 1: And so I'll kick it off and then I'll let
Speaker 1: Michelle take the lead and share her resource, and then
Speaker 1: we'll have you follow up with yours and then we'll
Speaker 1: get into like the last fun Rosenthorne part. But to
Speaker 1: start for this week, my resource is an Instagram account.
Speaker 1: The account is her name is Dara Starr Tucker, and
Speaker 1: basically her entire Instagram page features videos about every topic
Speaker 1: from race, like things like blackface, grandfather clauses, racism in politics, etc.
Speaker 1: But the one that I'm want to highlight today, and
Speaker 1: I just would urge anyone to go check out her
Speaker 1: entire page and just follow her is it basically discusses
Speaker 1: the differences between black pride and white pride. And it's
Speaker 1: a conversation that she did this real around because she's
Speaker 1: seen a spark during Black History Month, which is obviously
Speaker 1: this month, and around why this designation between like black
Speaker 1: pride and white pride exists, leading from the question of
Speaker 1: like why isn't there a White History Month, which I'm
Speaker 1: sure a lot of maybe her white followers are just
Speaker 1: people on Instagram have asked about. So basically it goes
Speaker 1: into like how white pride and black pride pride comes
Speaker 1: across differently in this country, and it's basically because of
Speaker 1: the way race and culture has developed here. So she
Speaker 1: discusses the concept of race as a colonial concept to
Speaker 1: create like this hierarchy to groups of people based on
Speaker 1: their skin color. She gets into basically like the history
Speaker 1: of our country and the origins of slavery, and how
Speaker 1: when they were forced to come over to the United States,
Speaker 1: they were stripped of basically all of their traditions, Like
Speaker 1: they couldn't have their culture, their language, basically everything was
Speaker 1: stripped from them and they were forced into this like
Speaker 1: completely new social framework. And because of that, they had
Speaker 1: to really begin to develop like their own distinct culture
Speaker 1: of their own and a lot of that in part
Speaker 1: was fueled by like triumph in the face of extreme adversity.
Speaker 1: And she kind of lays it out as like it
Speaker 1: developed out of the need to overcome horrific circumstances. So
Speaker 1: it gets into so much more. And all of her
Speaker 1: videos are about I would say, like five minutes, so
Speaker 1: they're really quick, easy things to watch and read if
Speaker 1: you're on the go. But again, I highly recommend checking
Speaker 1: that one out just because it is February and we
Speaker 1: are in Black History Month. But her entire Instagram page
Speaker 1: is so interesting, so educational, and so again her name
Speaker 1: is Dara Stark Tucker. So that is my source of
Speaker 1: the week. And Michelle, if you want to go next, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so mine, I'm keeping mine short and sweet. As we
Speaker 1: are really getting into Black History Month, I'll be posting
Speaker 1: this like one sheet, So this one sheet reminder slash article,
Speaker 1: it's just the dows and don'ts a Black History Month
Speaker 1: really kind of focusing on what we can do to
Speaker 1: celebrate what we shouldn't be doing. Really kind of goes
Speaker 1: into just like quick little tidbits how to support black
Speaker 1: owned businesses, how to really raise awareness, how to celebrate
Speaker 1: and not doing it in a water down manner, and
Speaker 1: really kind of being sure that we are navigating this
Speaker 1: month insightfully and intentionally at the same time. And so again,
Speaker 1: the dews and don'ts a Black History Month, and I'll
Speaker 1: be posting that as like little one sheet on my resources. Cool.
Speaker 1: Thank you Michelle, and now Gabby, if you have a
Speaker 1: resource you would like to share, we would love to
Speaker 1: hear it. Um. The resource that I was going to
Speaker 1: share with you because I talked a lot about my
Speaker 1: therapy and like my journey through therapy was a book
Speaker 1: that my therapist recommended to me and we would actually
Speaker 1: like work through different sections of it. Um. It's called
Speaker 1: Attached and it's about adult attachment styles and how that
Speaker 1: happens from your childhood and how it like translates into
Speaker 1: your adult life. And I think it's really important to
Speaker 1: understand like how you were raised and how that impacts
Speaker 1: you as an adult and how you can be very
Speaker 1: mindful of it. So that's that's my resource. Thank thank you.
Speaker 1: I actually will say I just learned a bit more
Speaker 1: about I think it's the four different attachment styles, is
Speaker 1: that right, the four of them? And yeah, and like
Speaker 1: you could just take a quiz online too to kind
Speaker 1: of see your attachment style and like why it is
Speaker 1: to come. I was very surprised by it, I will say. So.
Speaker 1: I think that's great to share in something that you
Speaker 1: know anyone at any point can look more into so
Speaker 1: thank you for that. And then this is the last part,
Speaker 1: I swear. I know we keep adding on things before
Speaker 1: we let you go, but this is the fun part.
Speaker 1: It's your rose and thorn. So basically, your rose is
Speaker 1: going to be your highlight or your favorite moment of
Speaker 1: your time on Zach season so far. And then on
Speaker 1: the flip side, obviously the rose is something messy, awkward,
Speaker 1: a memory that you like wish maybe didn't happen or
Speaker 1: was shown. So whenever you want to share your rose
Speaker 1: and thorn. Okay, So my thorn would probably be the
Speaker 1: nickname word vomit that happened. It was pretty embarrassing. People
Speaker 1: are like, is this girl un hinched? Like is she okay?
Speaker 1: So probably that would be my thorn. But like I said,
Speaker 1: like getting accustomed to like all of the cameras and everything,
Speaker 1: I think that was a thorn in itself. My rose
Speaker 1: would probably be just like the girls that kept me
Speaker 1: so grounded when I was struggling in other areas. You know,
Speaker 1: those girls like help boost me up and I'm so
Speaker 1: grateful for that. And then those conversations that did go
Speaker 1: well and it wasn't me word vomiting and giving Sacking
Speaker 1: nicknames that he didn't want. Those were all really positive moments. Good.
Speaker 1: I love that. Well, Gabby, we are excited to see
Speaker 1: more of you. It seems like you're finally getting the time,
Speaker 1: the well deserved time with Sacks. So we can't wait
Speaker 1: to see where this takes you. And you know, throughout
Speaker 1: this journey it's a lot. We understand. Michelle and I
Speaker 1: have both been in your shoes. It's it's a crazy
Speaker 1: time with social media and just having the world witness
Speaker 1: you trying to fall in love. So if you ever
Speaker 1: need anything, any advice to events like we are always
Speaker 1: here for you, Well, thank you so much. I really
Speaker 1: appreciate it. And it's so awesome to meet both of you.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm having a little fanned girl moment,
Speaker 1: but it's super awesome. We were very excited to have you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're somebody that we wanted. So I'm glad that we
Speaker 1: truly saw you. And I'm sure in a few weeks
Speaker 1: we'll either see you at the tell all or the
Speaker 1: finale however far you go, so look forward to because
Speaker 1: keep watching. Yes, well, thank you Gabby. All right, Michelle,
Speaker 1: that was nice when she seems so sweet, she seems
Speaker 1: really just sweet and genuine, and I love how open
Speaker 1: she was just about her all that comes, like all
Speaker 1: the just different difficulties or obstacles that kind of come
Speaker 1: with like having ADHD, and I love that she was
Speaker 1: able to open up about that. And I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: a lot of viewers that appreciate her having that Cannon conversation.
Speaker 1: So thank you again, Gabby for being so open. Michelle,
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I love people who have
Speaker 1: like put in work, and you know, we've all been
Speaker 1: through stuff in our pasts. You know there's no way
Speaker 1: around that. But somebody who recognizes areas where they could
Speaker 1: do better or learn or just become more self aware,
Speaker 1: I really appreciate. I think it's a conversation that we
Speaker 1: should always be having. And so I'm that it sounds
Speaker 1: like before coming down the show, she went through some stuff,
Speaker 1: she did the work, and I love that she can
Speaker 1: speak on that more so, Yeah, I feel like she
Speaker 1: I feel like so far, like we've talked to some
Speaker 1: great women and I'm like I say this every week.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think they're going to go far, and
Speaker 1: I'm always not right, So we'll see. But I really
Speaker 1: hope she does. She seems like a very just genuine, real,
Speaker 1: very dumb to earth woman. So thank you Gabby for
Speaker 1: joining us, and a big thank you to all of
Speaker 1: our Happy Hour listeners. We love chatting with you all
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