1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: What's of Happy Hour listeners. I'm Beccacoufern and I'm Michelle. Yeah, 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: and we are excited to be back with you again 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: this week. Getting into the third episode of The Bachelor, 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: I feel like we're already like flying through this season. 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: But I'm very excited to bring on our guest Gabby today. Yeah. 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: So we're so excited we're going to be chatting with 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: Gabby here all about her journey. It was a slow start, 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: but now she's coming in hot talking about the Bachelor 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Bowl and her connection with Szach. But first before we 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: bring her on, Becca, I feel like I haven't seen 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: you in a minute. How are you doing, phill us 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: in I know, I feel like you have been traveling 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: all I'm like, I don't even know where Michelle is 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: these days because you are bounds in between states. But 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: I'm good. I have been traveling a little bit to 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: this past week, and I still have more upcoming travels 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: for some really fun stuff that we will soon be announcing. 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: So stay tuned next week. We'll probably be able to 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: talk about it at little bit more on the podcast. 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, some really fun things in the works. And yeah, 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: I was traveling this past weekend for my wine line 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: at some events, which was so so fun. So yeah, 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: life's going good. I feel like we're starting to kind 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: of pick up this new year and bounce around and 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: just get going. How are you okay? Wait? I love that. 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to now hear what you're going to 27 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: be bringing up. I'll definitely be checking back in next 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: week with that one. But for me, things have been good. 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: I feel like every time I hop, I'm about a 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: happy hour. I'm in a different state right now, coming 31 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: from Arizona, so I'm gonna be here for some super 32 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: Bowl activities. And you said that you're going to be 33 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: in the area tomorrow, right I'm also coming to Arizona. 34 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: I feel like just going back to you being in 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: a new state all the time. It's like, where in 36 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: the world is Carmen San Diego? That is you. I'm like, 37 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: where in the country is Michelle Young these days? But yeah, 38 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: we'll both be in Arizona for different fun things. It's 39 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize, so, like, you know me, I 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: don't watch sports, so I just out yesterday that the 41 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: super Bowl is in Arizona. Also, the waste Management Tournament 42 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: is happening the same time, So it is going to 43 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: be crazy town. And I mean you're there early, like 44 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: is it already starting to get like super busy there? Okay, 45 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: So I'm right now, I'm located like in old town Scottsdale. 46 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: So the super Bowl tailgate, everything that's taking place is 47 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: legitimately in my backyard, like ten steps to the right, 48 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: and so it's pretty cool. And so last night one 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: of my girlfriends and I were just walking around and 50 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: it's like a ghost town, but with everything starting to 51 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: be like set up, and so I'm sure in the 52 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: next day or two everything's going to start to get 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: a little bit more lively. But it's like this calm 54 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: before the storm. But it is going to be fun. 55 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: Like you said, waste management's going on, so there's a 56 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,279 Speaker 1: lot of events going on with that. It's like Phoenix's 57 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: own or Arizona's own super Bowl within a super Bowl, 58 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: and so it's gonna be a lot so much. Well, 59 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: it's so fun. Let's get into the episode really quick 60 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: before Gabby hops on, what were your overall thoughts on 61 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: this week three? And like, do you have any predictions? 62 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: I know I asked you this last week of like 63 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: any standouts or people that you think are going to 64 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: make it through till the end. I can't even remember 65 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: what I responded with or who I responded with last week, 66 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: because I do feel like it changes so quickly, like 67 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: there is That's just how Bachelor World works. When you're 68 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: in it, and when you're watching it, at one minute 69 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: you can absolutely like, yeah, this is the person, and 70 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: then it can completely get flipped around. But I'll say 71 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: that Charity. I feel like Charity is just so genuine. 72 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: I feel like she's gonna make it so far, She's 73 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: like my number one right now. She's who I want 74 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: to make it to the end. But if she doesn't 75 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: end up with Zach or if that's not the right, 76 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: if it's I'm calling it now. Yeah, And I'm not 77 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: calling it in the sense of like I'm predicting it. No, 78 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: she needs to be the Bachelorette, like I'm nominating her. Yes, 79 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: I stand by that. I really enjoy her. And and 80 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: this week when I was so happy she got that 81 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: group date rose, but then when Christina kind of stole 82 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: that moment, I was like, nobody makes my baby cry. 83 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: I was I had like this like guard dog, like 84 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: mama bear mentality for her where I was like, that 85 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: is not okay, and so um yeah, I agree though 86 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: she's really standing out to me. I'm trying to think 87 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: of who else right now. I mean, like just right 88 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: off of dates, I think he's very into Katie. I 89 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: think that they are both like fair. They have like 90 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: a very similar mentality and like way of doing life. 91 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: It seems like like approaching conversations, like they're very both 92 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: like even and keeled, like very chill, kind of calm, 93 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: like very similar demeanors, right in a genuine way. Yeah, Katie. 94 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: I think just like Katie seems like chill and fun 95 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: and like honestly, like just as a viewer, I feel 96 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: like if Katy and Zach were to meet out at 97 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: a bar away from the television show, they would actually 98 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 1: hit it off and like be interested in one another 99 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: and want to pursue one another. It just seems like 100 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: that kind of fit. Okay, I have to jump back 101 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: and ask you this question. At the beginning of the episode, 102 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: there was this quick overnight Yeah, what were what was it? 103 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: What were your thoughts when you're watching that? Because when 104 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: I was watching this, I was like, if I was 105 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: on the day, it'd be like that's amazing, But then 106 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: back home. What a way to just totally get a 107 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: massive mind fuck already so early in the process. I 108 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: would have been pissed. I I would have died for 109 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: that date at the museum. I would have loved it. 110 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: Do you did you throw back to old school books 111 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: and movies? Did you ever watch or read the night? 112 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: It was like, no, like the mixtup files of Basily Frankweiler. 113 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: I have no idea what that is. I've never heard 114 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: of that. Wait, wasn't the mixtup file something basilely Frank Weiler? Okay, 115 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: if please DM me, if you know what I'm talking about. 116 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: It was a book. They made it into a movie. 117 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: It's basically about this brother and sister who run away 118 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: from home. They go and live in this museum for 119 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: a while. They like sleep in Marie Antoinette's bed, and 120 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: they like have to bathe in the fountains that are there. 121 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: Only it was like one of my favorites. My sister 122 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: and I would go to the library and rent it 123 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: all the time. But that is what I'm picturing. When 124 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: they had this date, I was like, this is my 125 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: childhood dream. I would have loved this date and honestly, 126 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: like the sleepover part. Here's what I'm thinking, And maybe 127 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 1: it's just because I know, like the ins and outs, 128 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: they probably got thirty seven minutes of sleep, like they 129 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: probably filmed for along. Production was probably like okay, take 130 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: a little nap and we got to get back to 131 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: the house at like eight am. Like they probably think 132 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: they actually got any but right, because but like in 133 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: fantasy fantasy suits, like you really don't sleep that much. 134 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: What I'm curious about, though, is like do you think 135 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: they actually got any off camera time together like you 136 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: do in fantasy suits. I'm sure they got a little bit. 137 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure they did, just because, like, let's be honest, 138 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 1: like their crew needs to sleep and take breaks too, 139 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: So I really don't think like I don't and I 140 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: don't think it was like long, and I'm sure there's 141 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: people like kind of around still outside of the tent, 142 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: but I don't think. I don't think they were like 143 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: somebody was in their tent with them the entire time. 144 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, but I also want to ask you 145 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: about one more thing too, So you mentioned problematic behavior, 146 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: So we need to just bring up this really quick 147 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: before Gabby hops on. But the whole Christina situation between 148 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: not only Brianna but some of the other girls. We 149 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: see like little comments throughout the episode, like little digs, 150 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: little I think, just moments that she gets under people's skin. 151 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on that and were you surprised 152 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: that Zach actually ended up sending her home when he did, 153 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: and like didn't just keep her around another week to 154 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: see what would happen. Yeah, I honestly, you and I 155 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: have kind of spoken about how we thought, yeah, or 156 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: we thought Christina was just, you know, like gonna be this. 157 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: She's funny, She's she's the one talking about all these 158 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: things with the off camera like shots or not off camera, 159 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: but she's she's the one that was in the bloopers 160 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: or just like the little after conversations once the credits rolled, right, 161 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: like that's where we really solid of personality. But I 162 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: will say that after this last episode, it very much 163 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: comes off as like read the room, like let's be 164 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: considerate about other people's feelings, and so it's already uncomfortable. 165 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: You have to talk about different details of the date, 166 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: like that's how the show works. It's really awkward as 167 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: it is, and a lot of times I can see 168 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: that there's almost oversharing where it's you can answer a question, 169 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: but you also don't have to continuously bring your like 170 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: relationship to the forefront and wave it around in everybody's face. 171 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: And that's what at this point I felt like was 172 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: being done. And so for me, I'm like, yeah, I 173 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: don't like that. It's it's it gets old, it's uncomfortable. 174 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: And even in that whole situation where Charity got this 175 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: group date Rose and then the whole moment was completely 176 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: just wiped out, you know, where she expected everybody's support 177 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: when she came home from meeting Zack's family on the 178 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: one on one and she the girl supported her and 179 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: listened to her and for her too. Then take someone 180 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: out after they get a group date Rose, It's like, 181 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: you can't ask people to support you, and then you 182 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: come and pull this moment away from somebody else. I 183 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: didn't like it. I didn't That's not how I roll. 184 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: So I was happy to see that zaccent Or. But 185 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: I also will say that Zach really is eliminating anybody 186 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: who's problematic or if he really doesn't see a future, 187 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: he seems to have a strong gut reading. Yeah, and 188 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: to let him go pretty early on which is his 189 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: decisive I will say like I actually appreciated that because 190 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: I was like, we don't need to keep her around, 191 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: especially if, like you know, she's it's not just a 192 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: one time instance. It's not just what one person, it's 193 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: with multiple I totally respect that decision, and also like 194 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: the I think the thing that really rubbed me the 195 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: wrong way was the whole charity situation where she's like, 196 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: that's weird. I don't understand it. I wanted to go 197 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,119 Speaker 1: through the screen like it's not for you to understand, 198 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: Like this is Zach's journey. He's the one here trying 199 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: to find somebody, and if she's not seeing these other 200 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: conversations with other women, so you don't have to understand it, 201 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: but you don't have to take away and shine such 202 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: a negative light to somebody else. Like let that girl 203 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: have this moment, like it's very fleeting in this Boucher 204 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: world because so many other group dates come out and 205 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: it's just there's so much transition that I was like, 206 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: let her just appreciate it and just close your mouth 207 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: at some points, like things are funny and it's okay 208 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: to be loud and boisterous but there are also times 209 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: we're just like you said, read the room, take a 210 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: step back. But you know, actually, that's why I'm excited 211 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: to bring Gabby on, because she lived with everyone, she 212 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: witnessed all of this, so I do want to just 213 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: pick her brain and see kind of like not that 214 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: there was size, but just kind of see like her 215 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: take on things and if it did seem as heightened 216 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: as it was like during that pool party. So I 217 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: think with that we should just bring Gabby on right now. 218 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely well, welcome Gabby to Happy Hour. Obviously this is 219 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: your first time hopping on here. Have you done any 220 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: other podcast before? I've never done a podcast, so thank 221 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: you for having me. I apologize if I have any 222 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: nervous shitters, but I'm super excited helping her and it 223 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: totally girl chat. But for those who are listening, can't 224 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: see this right now, Gabby is in the middle of 225 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: her work day and she's in her office. Correct. I 226 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: love this though. I love a focused queen. That's amazing. Yep, 227 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: the grind doesn't stop. So here we are. She came 228 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: in hot professional with the blazer. We love a good 229 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: blazer look. So just to start, Gabby, catch us up 230 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: on how you're doing. How has it been watching yourself 231 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: back on TV. I'm sure it's kind of weird and 232 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: unsettling at times. Yeah, it's, Um, it's been kind of funny, 233 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: um because I remember how I felt like a doll 234 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: can relate to this, like how you feel in the 235 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: moment versus watching it on TV all back you like, 236 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: it's totally different. Um, but it's kind of funny. I've 237 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: been watching with my close friends and they just kind 238 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: of chuckle at me and they're like, now you're being 239 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: so yourself, and I'm like, well, that's that's all you 240 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: can be. So I mean, it's been really positive at 241 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: least for me and my experience so far. So it's been. 242 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: It's been weird but exciting. I think that's one of 243 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: the best things though, is a lot of people get 244 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: negative reactions, like internal negative reactions watching it back, because 245 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: the camera can kind of be or the show can 246 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: kind of be a mirror sometimes and if you lose 247 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: your way while you're there and you're not yourself, then 248 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: you when you're watching it back, you're like almost not 249 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: necessarily cringing, right, but you're like uncomfortable. Whereas I love 250 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: that hearing that your friends and just like the people 251 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: around you and yourself are like, okay, I'm totally I 252 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: was totally one hundred percent myself. Yeah, I didn't want 253 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: to have any regrets, and you know it, it felt 254 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: weird at first, and it took me a long time 255 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: to like not a long time, a long time in 256 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: Bachelor World to get used to the cameras being around. 257 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: And I think that you can really see that, and 258 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: I know, like it's kind of like people are joking 259 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: on the internet, like Gabby how to come back in 260 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: the last episode. But it took an adjustment for me 261 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: to like be okay with the cameras there, and like 262 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: I was still being myself, but it was a lot 263 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: of stimulation and it was a lot to handle and 264 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: to process and to like regulate all my emotions. It 265 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: was a learning curve in a really weird way. But 266 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: I feel like every side that people saw, people are 267 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: like callably, like Gabby's all over the place. Yes I am, 268 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: but it was all me so but it's real. Yeah, 269 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: And and like I'm I can understand the cameras and 270 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: just like the crew being around because it's a lot 271 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: of people and like it's not until you step out 272 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: of the limbo of that night one where you're like, 273 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: holy shit, like I did not know what I was 274 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: signing up for. But not only that, Like also living 275 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: with twenty thirty girls is a lot too, so many 276 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: different personalities. It's hard at times, like especially right away 277 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: to even speak and like I feel like you have 278 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: a moment when they're so much going on. So I'm 279 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: sure that had a plane too, where there's just like 280 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: so many people, so many personalities, and of course like 281 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: trying to fight for the same guy. So I want 282 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: to know though, like getting on to Zach's season, were 283 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: you a fan of the show before? How did you 284 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: get cast? Like what was that process for you? Yeah, 285 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: So before I went on the show, I actually had 286 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: gone through a pretty bad breakup. I dated this guy 287 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: for a few years and it was just it wasn't 288 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: the most healthy relationship, and so the breakup was really 289 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: hard on me. I felt like I had invested a 290 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: lot of my time and effort and energy into it, 291 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: and coming out of it, I was heartbroken. And my 292 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: friends saw me like that and they were like, yeah, 293 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: you have so much to give. So they all nominated 294 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: me to go on the show. They're like, you'll be 295 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: perfect for this. You have to like just at least try, 296 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, I'm not sure. But I 297 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time investing in therapy and investing 298 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: in myself and healing, and obviously a healing journey, it's 299 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: not you know all of a sudden you're healed. But 300 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: I knew what I wanted and I was able to 301 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: really discover that through therapy of like what did worthwhile 302 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: love look like to me? And obviously trying to find 303 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: it myself didn't really work out, and so I went 304 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: on the show. I didn't I'd watched a few seasons, 305 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: but I didn't. I'm not like a diehard Bachelor fan, 306 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: but my sister loved a Bachelor. She always would watch 307 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: with my grandma, which is really funny. So she was 308 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: very supportive of me going on the show. And she 309 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, but you just you gotta do it. 310 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: And so I was definitely nervous because I had been 311 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: so heartbroken, but you know, like you can't just stop 312 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: trying in life. So I put myself out there. I 313 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it when I got the call, like, hey, 314 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: we want you to be on the show. I was like, 315 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: wait what, Um, I wasn't expecting that, but I'm so 316 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: so grateful that I that I went through with it. Well, 317 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: we're incredibly happy that you also said yes, because then 318 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: we can get to watch you on our screens every week. 319 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: So you get here, you get to the Vaschelor Mansion, 320 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: it's night one, taking it from the top. You exit 321 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: the limo, and you hand Zach maple syrup. Yes, Um, 322 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: I thought us going differently in my head. Um first, okay, 323 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: wait take us from what what? How did you want 324 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: it to go or how did you see it in 325 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: your head? First? Well, I consider myself kind of like 326 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: Buddy the Elf. If you guys have seen that movie, 327 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: I would assume um, and you know, syrup is one 328 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: of the four main food groups. Um. And as a Vermonter, like, 329 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: my favorite thing to do is like take my friends 330 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: who visit me to like maple syrup farm and have 331 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: them tryal to syrup ups. And like, as a child 332 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: growing up, going to the maple syrup farm and tasting 333 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: the syrups was like my favorite thing to do. And um, 334 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: I just felt like it was like a piece of 335 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: home with me. And it's so sweet and delicious. I 336 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: was not expecting him to not like it, but I 337 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: thought he was gonna throw up. Honestly, I was, Um, 338 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: I think you can hear me say like, I didn't 339 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: like that face. Um, he did not like it? So 340 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: well does he not like pancakes or waffles? Like? Does 341 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: he eat them plain? Because I'm thinking like, like syrups 342 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: not that like not polarizing of a thing to drink, 343 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 1: Like if we're talking about like taking shots of something, 344 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: you'd think that. I'm like, I didn't give you alcohol, 345 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: Like I feel like this is like the win here. Um, 346 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: but no, the preference I guess for people who aren't 347 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: from you know, Canada or Vermont, it's fake maple syrups. 348 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, that was really just funny. So okay, wow, 349 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: well so do you feel like you should have brought 350 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: something for him to put the syrup on your lips? Yeah? No, 351 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: I should just put it all over me. And they're 352 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: like here, here you go, look it off here. Okay, 353 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: so this man tries to syrup, he doesn't like it. 354 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: You're not really sure how it goes. You get into 355 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: the whole night one and you didn't get to talk 356 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: to him. Were you like holy shit, I'm going home 357 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: because of maple syrup or what like. Honestly, what's syrup 358 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: maybe was what might save me because I was like, well, 359 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: he didn't like it, but he probably remembers it, so 360 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: at least we have that. So I didn't get to 361 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 1: talk to him, but I wasn't the only one who 362 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: didn't get to talk to him. And you know, we 363 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: had a fluid conversation when I first got out of 364 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: the limo, and I was like, you know what, that 365 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: was really easy. We spent like two minutes standing there 366 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: talking to one another, and I was like, you know, 367 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: some of these girls are only getting two minutes, So 368 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: maybe it's not the end of the world. Maybe it's 369 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: enough to keep you around. Um, but it was definitely scary. 370 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: But I think you get to some point in the 371 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: night and you're like, it's so you know, it's so 372 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: late and I'm so tired. And I remember I wore 373 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: my shoes all night long and they were aggressively tall, 374 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: like probably like six or so inches. Terrible idea, um, 375 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: not smart on my part, but I wore them all 376 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: night just in case I would get a chance to 377 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 1: talk to him. It didn't happen. Um, yeah, it was. 378 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: It was stressful, but I just kind of remained hopeful, like, 379 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: well maybe he'll remember me from the maple syrup who 380 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: needs an energy drink? Okay, So how did you feel 381 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: then standing at that rose ceremony, obviously not being able 382 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: to chat with him? Besides that very first interaction, he 383 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: does call your name, you do get a rose? What 384 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: was that feeling? Like? Wow? Um, as you guys probably saw, 385 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: my reaction was like, oh, like I wasn't expecting that. 386 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: And then I walked over and um, yeah, I actually 387 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: tried to grab the rose from him and that's yeah. 388 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,239 Speaker 1: And then I was like obviously, of course, Um, so 389 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: I was surprised. I was surprised, like really eager and 390 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: really excited. Um, but it was I knew I was 391 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: with Like, as the names were getting called, there was 392 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: other girls who hadn't talked to him yet, so I 393 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: was hopeful. I was like, okay, like trying to do 394 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: the math in my head. I was like, Okay, we 395 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: have this many roses, this many girls haven't spoken to him. Okay, 396 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: now two girls have been called we haven't spoken to him? 397 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: Does that leave how many girls? I was like doing 398 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: math in my head that didn't make any sense at all, 399 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: but I was. I was pleasantly surprised when he called 400 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: my name. Yeah, it was a key moment. I liked 401 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: your reaction. It so just genuine. Let's quickly talk about 402 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: last week because you become one of the standouts for sure. 403 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: You have this one on one time was Zach. It 404 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: was so sweet and you seemed like you're nervous and 405 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: because you're worried that I was coming off as like 406 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: the Gabby show. But can you tell us a little 407 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: bit more of like that first one on one convo 408 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: with Zach? Yeah? Um, it was a lot um I think, 409 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, being the second group date, you have that 410 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: anticipation where you're kind of waiting around. You're hearing like, okay, 411 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: I've heard about the one on one, I've heard about 412 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: the group date. We have two rosens given out, and 413 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: now it's finally our time to go on our date 414 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: with him. But it felt like I was so behind 415 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: everyone else at that moment because he had already had 416 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: all these other conversations, right, that's like thirteen fourteen him 417 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: and he's had one on one conversations with and so 418 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if I can catch 419 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: up like they had the first night. Now they've had 420 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: these states, and so I got a little bit in 421 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: my head to be honest with you, and I think 422 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: the environment, like I said earlier, it's very overstimulating. And 423 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: I have ADHD, which I'm totally comfortable talking about, and 424 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm very aware of it. But there's a 425 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: lot of emotional regulation that you have to like work on, 426 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: and that's something I've been working on for years. But 427 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: when you're in an environment that's so overstimulating, it can 428 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 1: be really difficult to find that regulation of your emotions. 429 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: And so for me, you know, finally getting the opportunity 430 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: to sit down and talk to him, it's late. I'm tired. 431 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of comparison you're doing. There's 432 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: a lot of sensitivities you're feeling, and then there's on 433 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: top of that, there's the distractions of the environment just 434 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: in it's and so, you know, I had all these 435 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: things I wanted to probably talk to them about, and 436 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: I came up with nicknames. Don't know where that came from. 437 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: I do love nicknames, and I give everyone nicknames, but 438 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: that's probably like more it gives some context to the 439 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: roller coaster that people saw of like my emotions and 440 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: then the emotions that came after that conversation of the 441 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: like sensitivity because emotions hit you really hard and really 442 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: fast when you're ADHD and so a lot of people 443 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: maybe don't understand that or know that, but I'm comfortable 444 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: talking about that, but I think it does help people understand, like, Okay, 445 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: how did you do a one eighty when you talk 446 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: to him before the rose ceremony? Because I figured out, Okay, 447 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: what do you need to do to regulate your emotions 448 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: in this kind of environment? And I'm so grateful that 449 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: I have had the tools and the therapy and the 450 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: psychiatrists to teach me those tools to be able to 451 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: do that. But it was a lot in the beginning. 452 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: So there's a very long winded and s are for 453 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: you all, but um no, that's that's how it's feeling. Yeah, 454 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: it made it made a lot of sense. I actually 455 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: really appreciate you to explaining that and just being vulnerable 456 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: to share that side of things, because I think that's 457 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: a perspective that a lot of people who aren't dealing 458 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: with you know anything, or dealing with similar similar things 459 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: might not think about and you add the learning curve 460 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: of just like you said, the cameras, the lack of sleep, um, 461 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: just all the commotion that's going on. It would that 462 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: adds a whole different layer. Yeah, but you did land 463 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: on Zachie pooh, and I feel like it's stuck. Correct. 464 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: I like, yah, Zach's cute. Yeah, he didn't seem like 465 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: he really liked it, And I was like, come on, man, 466 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: like this gives you some edge, like it's cute, it's sweet, 467 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: it's endearing. Um okay, So I want to then go 468 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: into you just you know, like obviously it was kind 469 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: of a roller coaster that first conversation, and I'm sure 470 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: also too, like hearing how other conversations with the woman went, 471 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: Like hearing if he kissed them or not plays a 472 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: huge role into that, and kind of like the comparison 473 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: of like, Okay, I feel behind already, maybe I'm getting 474 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: more behind. But you did turn it around because the 475 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: next time at that cocktail party, you I loved this. 476 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: The peanut butter cups was so cute, a little lady 477 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: in the tramp style move. How did you feel when 478 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: you finally had like the real conversation with him, and 479 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: then you got that kiss. What was that Like? It 480 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: was so reassuring and like I was like finally, like 481 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: I can take a deep breath, Like finally, I feel 482 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: like that was a normal conversation that wasn't forced, It 483 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: wasn't like awkward, it wasn't intimidating. It just felt like 484 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: finally and I could like take that deep breath, you know. 485 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: I think leading up to that, I kind of got 486 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: to a point where I was like, you know, you 487 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 1: just need to like relax, take a deep breath, and 488 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: like try to just focus on this one thing. And 489 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: that's what I did, and it just felt very finally 490 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: felt like natural, um yea and not as distracted. Give 491 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: us the deets I need to know. Is Zach a 492 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: good kisser? Uh? Decent kisser? Met? Like I really want 493 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: to know, ge, Yes, honest, you won't get in trouble 494 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: if you tell us the truth. Well, our kiss was 495 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: a little bit peanut buttery, um, which was I mean, 496 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: it's an acquired taste that I love. I think so too. 497 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, a little peanut butter, a little chocolate, 498 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: I love it. Um. No, I thought we had a 499 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: good kiss, like rating it on the scale of first kisses. Um, 500 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: it was long anticipated. I was I don't think I've 501 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: ever been that nervous for our first kiss in my 502 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: whole life. Um, but I thought it was pretty good. 503 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: What I will say about Zach is I think his 504 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: kissing style is very accommodating to the other person. That's 505 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: a compliment. He catches a vibe because I was obviously 506 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: you guys saw us talking about you know, do you 507 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: use tongue? Do you not use tongue like I think 508 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: he's good at like reading the room or reading theos 509 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 1: and what's going on. Yes, I think he knows how 510 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: to catch a vibe. That's a that's we have. We 511 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: like an accommodating man. I like that. Okay, he adapts. Okay. 512 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: So this week you played in like a long standing 513 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: bachelor tradition, the Bachelor Bowl. And when you pulled up 514 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: to the field, what were your first thoughts with what 515 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: was happening, what was going to be expected on the day. Um, well, 516 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: I was very nervous. I knew it was all I 517 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: knew the second we got that day. Card I was like, 518 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: there's too many girls on here for it to not 519 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: be the Bachelor Bowl. Was It was it like, are 520 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: we you excited about that? Or you're like, crap, are 521 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: you athletic? Like do you consider yourself athletic? Um? Does 522 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: that face say it at all? Um? Okay? So I 523 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: would say I work out and I am athletic, but 524 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: I am not aggressive. So for me, the idea of 525 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: like being aggressive and like tackling someone is not like 526 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: let's say we're doing like a like a a race 527 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: or like an obstacle course. Hell yeah, I'm in there, 528 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: like so a'mwhere like I will dominate. But the idea 529 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: of tackling people and then being tackled, that was a 530 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: lot and I was not ready for it. Well, and 531 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: there was there was extra stakes because he told you 532 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: whatever team wins gets to go to the cocktail party, 533 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: whoever loses has to go home sianara. So like did 534 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: that change your mindset going in? And I'm sure did 535 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: in some capacity, but like when you heard that, what 536 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: was going through your head? Oh? Yeah? I was like, 537 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: oh perfect, like another missed opportunity to like progress my 538 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: relationship with Zach, Like no way, there's absolutely no way. 539 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: Well there was a way. Um uh yeah, So I 540 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: was stressed. I was angry. I was like are you kidding? 541 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: Like now another after party that I might not attend 542 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: so that we can get even more behind. Yeah, so 543 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: it was it was like a lot. Okay, So were 544 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: you confident with like your team, like who is on 545 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: remind us who was on your team? Well? Um, we 546 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: had me Dhabia, Jen, Um Greer, Anastasia and who am 547 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: I missing? Oh um Brianna. I think that was it? Okay, 548 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: quite sure? Who did you think was going to be 549 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: like the if you were to choose like a captain 550 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: of your the yellow team, who would have been? Like? 551 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: Who was? Like? Jen was our MVP all the way. 552 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: She is very athletic, she knows football, so she was 553 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: like and I think, see, we didn't have any workout 554 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: girlies on our season, I guess besides Christina did CrossFit 555 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: and then Jen was very athletic. And then I somehow 556 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: got looped in as like one of those workout girlies. 557 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: I was like, I work out, but like, I'm not 558 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm not a football girl. And so I think Jen 559 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: really thought that I was gonna help her a lot 560 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: with knowing football. But she was doing as all these 561 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: plays and I was like that sounds awesome. I'm not 562 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: sure what you're saying. You're speaking a different language, and 563 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: you can see, like you'll see it's very obvious. I 564 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: do not know football because in the beginning of the game, 565 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: I remember I didn't know that you were supposed to 566 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: like touch the ball. I thought you were not supposed 567 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: touch the ball. Wait, what do you mean, like not 568 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: touch them up with that somewhere? So I ran away 569 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: from the ball. I literally would be you. I feel 570 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: like during this group, Dad, I would be the same way. 571 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'm just gonna go stand over here. 572 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna fake an injury so i can hang out 573 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: with Zachie pooh m. And just you would be the 574 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: one to fake. You'd be the one to fake in 575 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 1: and no, I'd actually probably stay in the game and 576 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: I would it would take me a little bit to 577 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: get like acclimated into it, but I'd probably then be like, 578 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna fucking hit up everyone, give my aggression out. 579 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: But um yeah, I just want to clarify for everyone 580 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: because I was like, who is Jen, Like, I don't 581 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: remember a Jen. Jenevie is who you're talking about? Who's 582 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: on your team? And shed out like watching the episode, 583 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: she did very very well, so just for the listeners, 584 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: who's like if you're like me, and I'm like, I 585 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: don't know who Jen is, It's jene Be. Um okay, Gabby, 586 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: I also relate to you in this scenario about the 587 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: peeing the pants, okay. And I'm not sure if you 588 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: were embarrassed about that or not, But when I was 589 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: watching knew, I'm like, we have all been there if 590 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: you have not peach your pants a little bit at 591 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: some point, whether it's playing a game, whether it's like 592 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: when you're dancing, like your line, if you haven't peed 593 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: your pants a little bit. So honestly, I don't think 594 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: you should embarrass and embarrassed at all about it. And 595 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: did you think that that part was gonna be shown? Like, 596 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: you know, we're always miked up, but there's like some 597 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: things that you don't think like we'll ever error. Did 598 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: you think that they would show that? Um? I was. 599 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: I was quite confident that that would be shown, muse 600 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: because I went into the day and I was like, yeah, 601 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna put my body on the line and 602 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna crush this, like I'm gonna get aggressive if 603 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: I have to, Like I'm just gonna come out of 604 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: my shell and be you know, a football player for 605 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,719 Speaker 1: the day. Well, you know, there was other plans for 606 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: me that that blunt force that pulled me down. It 607 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: was so hard, and I was also nervous, Like do 608 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: you think, like, Okay, I'm staying hydrated because we're in 609 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: the California sun. Then I've got these nerves and jitters 610 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: because the boy I like is watching me try to 611 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: catch up football run across the field like there's a 612 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: lot going on. The nerves were giving me the nervous 613 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: piece in itself and then you throw me to the ground. 614 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: Yeah it was bad, but have no fear. I've consulted 615 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: my doctor. We are good. Everything is good. We're working 616 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: on it. M Yeah, it's going to happen now or 617 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: when you have kids, And honestly you might your team 618 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: might not have one, but you definitely won the relatable card. 619 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: Cheers to you for that. Thank you. I'm actually kind 620 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: of glad that they showed it because I feel like 621 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: every episode we get like clips of like realness, and 622 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like there's things that people don't 623 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: always want to talk about it, and so I'm so 624 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: good that it was the highlight reel highlight reel. Yeah, no, 625 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: I thought it was. I think it's funny. I mean 626 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't help it. I mean it was honestly like 627 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: a little bit alarming to me. And actually I was like, 628 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm fine, I just a little bit. 629 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: That was hard. Yeah, so I got tackled twice, like 630 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: really hard, and that was one of them. And that 631 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: did occur. So, I mean, you guys really did give 632 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 1: it your best effort though, but unfortunately the Yellow team 633 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: fell short that day. How disappointing was it that you 634 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: would not be able to go to this after party? 635 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: It was very disappointing, not only like emotionally, but like physically. 636 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: I was drained and hurting, like I hyper extended my 637 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: knee and I was like, I was like, oh this hurts, 638 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: and anyone this sounds silly, but anyone who has dipped 639 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: nails will understand this. I had three of them ripped off, 640 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: and my fingers were like throbbing from that. I just 641 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: also peeped my pants, so like, there were so many 642 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: emotions I was feeling, and then you don't get to 643 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: talk to the guy who you've just put it all 644 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: out there for. But I think he saw our effort, 645 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: so I at least left knowing like, Okay, you put 646 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: it all out there, you tried your best, like there's 647 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: only so much you can do, but it was super disappointing. Yeah, 648 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: oh yeah, the end, the end to an already rough 649 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: day date. It's hopefully you guys just were able to 650 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: get home, shower, drink a lot of wine so you 651 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: couldn't feel the pain as much. But okay, so that night, 652 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, half of you went home, half still went 653 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: to the date. And it was in the middle of 654 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: that cocktail party. Were not cocktail party, but like that 655 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: evening portion that you guys saw Bailey's suitcase being wheeled 656 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: out of the mansion, did you expect that, Like, did 657 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: you think that they had a stronger connection? And were 658 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: you very surprised in that moment? I was very surprised 659 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: by Bailey leaving, I mean when we were so actually 660 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: what happened, Like the way I found out is I 661 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: got up really early that next morning and and somebody 662 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: else was up super early before the other girls, And 663 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: it was almost like word of mouth, like somebody told me. 664 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: So I didn't know all of the details, but I 665 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: heard about and I was just like initially so shocked, 666 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: and I think that's just because she I mean, she's 667 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: so cool and so beautiful, and like, it seemed like 668 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: they had a great connection. And from everything you hear, 669 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: and that's every girl right talking about their relationship with 670 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: someone else or with Zach, you know they're explaining in 671 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: you're hearing the highlights of it, right, You're not necessarily 672 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: hearing all of the like negatives or you know, the 673 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: parts where it's like not going super awesome. So I 674 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: probably didn't know all the details or the nuances of 675 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: how their conversations were going. But from an outsider's perspective, 676 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: I was absolutely shocked to see her go and really 677 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: sad because she was, you know, so fun. It's sad 678 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: to see any girl go, and so you lose a friend, 679 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: and then you're also like what happened? So it's so 680 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: many emotions. Who were you really close with in the house, 681 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: like either night one throughout, and like even though who 682 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: would you say you're like your best friends from the 683 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: show are I think we were so lucky with our 684 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: group of girls. The girls are all so cool, so nice, 685 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: and I'm friends with everyone pretty much. I would consider 686 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: myself friends with everyone. I think initially I really clicked 687 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: with Jess and Katie and Ariel. Those are two of 688 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 1: two or three of the girls that I felt like, oh, 689 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 1: I really really get these girls and they really get 690 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: me and we it felt like I'd known them for 691 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 1: a really long time. But overall, all of the girls 692 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: are just great. So we do like the camaraderie we're 693 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: seeing this season. Yeah, yeah, seems like you guys have 694 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: each other's back for sure. Yeah. It was like I 695 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: was so scared because I watched Complete in season before 696 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: to get output inspiration of all things, and I was marked. Sorry, 697 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, am I about to get like bullied, 698 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: like crazy bullied on the show. I was super scared. 699 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: But no, we didn't. It wasn't like that. The girls 700 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: were so great. So it seems like, okay, let's get 701 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: into this pool party and some not even like major 702 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: major drama, but like there was a situation between us 703 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: Christina and you know, Brianna and some of the other women. 704 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: Just from your standpoint, since you lived with everyone, can 705 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: you just speak a little bit about that whole scenario, 706 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: Like did you witness Christina like ever being too much, 707 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: like too open about her relationship with Zach and like 708 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: kind of putting anyone else down. Yeah. I think for me, 709 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: I was so hyperfixed on like my relationship with Zach 710 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: and probably a little bit my own world of you know, 711 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: I need to figure out, like how I'm going to 712 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: progress my relationship. I was a little bit focused on that. 713 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: But obviously, like these things happen and you have to 714 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: be aware of them because it's all around you. So 715 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: when everything happened that pool party, it was very disappointing 716 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: because we were having such a fun day and I 717 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: think that you know, people do have personalities and not 718 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: everyone is going to click like you put thirty women together. 719 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: There's no way everyone clicks with one another in personalities 720 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: and you know, the way people speak are it's going 721 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: to clash and that's just human nature. So it was 722 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: unfortunate because I think it really took away from the 723 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: fun of like the day and the day we were 724 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: all having together. But I think that it's necessary, you know, 725 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: if you're feeling a certain way to feel safe with 726 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: your partner, to go and have those conversations. And I 727 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: think we are all adults, so having those conversations with 728 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: other adults that is important, Like how can you. You know, 729 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: it's only your problem unless you make it someone else's. 730 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: And so I think that those conversations needed to happen, 731 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: but it was definitely a little bit disappointing. But people 732 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: have personalities and not everyone will mesh. So throughout that day, 733 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: when things started to get more tense, and you know, 734 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: Brianna like take it. Take it to the moment, like 735 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: Brianna just left and all of the women are sitting together, 736 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, you're all hanging out. Zach comes in and 737 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: he basically addresses the situation of like why she went 738 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: home and that there he mentions, there's somebody in the 739 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: mansion that's kind of probably some like multiple not just Branna, 740 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: but multiple women the wrong way and making comments and 741 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: just kind of putting them down and making them feel uncomfortable, 742 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: it seemed, and this and this just could be like 743 00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: kind of what was shown, but like as if you 744 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,720 Speaker 1: were it seems like when you're all together and Christie 745 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: is sitting there, like it didn't really seem like she 746 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: was aware that it would have been directed towards her. 747 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: You know. Obviously after that he pulled her aside to 748 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: have a conversation, but at any point, like were you 749 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,439 Speaker 1: aware that she was the one making some people feel 750 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: uncomfortable and that she would be the one that he 751 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: would pull, or like what was going through your mind 752 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, it might be somebody else, it 753 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: could be her, Like where was your head at? So 754 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: I do remember in that moment, you know, it wasn't 755 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: clear if it was like one person or multiple people, 756 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: and that was like giving me some confusion. But I 757 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: also remember, you know, the girls saying we had and 758 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: I tried as remain Switzerland. I'm just gonna say that, 759 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: like I tried to stay out of the drama. But 760 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: like obviously you hear things and you hear people talking 761 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: you're living in a house together. But I knew that 762 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: there had been something at the date like the cocktail 763 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: party where I wasn't because it was after the football 764 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,919 Speaker 1: game and we had lost, and I know that there 765 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:09,280 Speaker 1: was some like tensions from that, and but I didn't 766 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: know like all the contexts, all the details, and honestly, 767 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: like like I said, like I was focused on my 768 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: relationship with Zach, so not the time or place where 769 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm about to get 770 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: myself all into this drama, and like what's going on. 771 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: So I tried to like take a step back and 772 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: let everyone figure it out as adults and have conversations 773 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: that needed to be had, but stay out of it. 774 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,280 Speaker 1: So I knew that there was already tensions though between 775 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 1: maybe more than one person, but I knew it was 776 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: all going to unfold. Would you say that you were 777 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: busy daydreaming about spreading sunscreen over Zach at the beginning 778 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: of the food party? How did you? Well, guys, you've 779 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: got to jump at your opportunity, and I love them 780 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,280 Speaker 1: to have a few, few and far between of them 781 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: in the beginning. Um so, yeah, No, I saw that sunscreen. 782 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna get a sunburn. I said, well, 783 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 1: let me help you with that. Um, you know, got 784 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: to protect my man's And then the sunscreen just magically 785 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 1: appears in your hand. Yeah it was. I was like, oh, perfect, 786 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: right here, let me just put this all over you. 787 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 1: I did put a little bit too much. I think 788 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, we can chill, it's okay, extra 789 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: rubbed down. I would do the same. I was gonna say, 790 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: you got to spend more time letting it soak in, 791 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't. Yeah, No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't 792 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: have rubbed sunscreen on Zach. But I would say that 793 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: if the person of who I was going after it 794 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: just dumped the whole bottle. Yeah, I was like, I'm 795 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: just gonna put as much on there so I can 796 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: just keep touching you. Yeah. Um no, it was a 797 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,720 Speaker 1: great opportunity. You stole it and I love to see it. Um. Okay, 798 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: before we get into the next part of this interview, 799 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it was a wild week in Boutchelor mansion. 800 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: We saw a couple of girls go home, like not 801 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 1: even at the Roaster money there's only Christina who went 802 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: home at the rost ceremony. So fast forward to like 803 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Without giving too much away, 804 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: can you tease anything fun of what's to come, like 805 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: what we can expect. M m, that's tough not teasing 806 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: too much. I think that there this season, like you 807 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: will see a lot of love, and you'll see a 808 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:36,720 Speaker 1: lot of emotions and probably some of the most genuine people, 809 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: Like you'll get to know some of the most genuine 810 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,399 Speaker 1: people that I've ever met. And I do think that 811 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: there is a lot of love between the girls with Zach, 812 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: and I think it's like a really unique It's a 813 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: unique season from what I've seen of the other seasons. 814 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 1: I think this is a actual season. Oh special season. 815 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: I like it. I'll take it very much. So well, Gabby, 816 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: We've enjoyed chatting with you so much today. And before 817 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: we let you go, we're gonna play a quick round 818 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: of something called rapid fire. So we're gonna give you 819 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,919 Speaker 1: questions just to get to know you a little bit 820 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: more emphasis on the word rappids. You don't have to 821 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 1: give an explanation, just your answer, and Becca and I 822 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: will swap back and forth asking you questions. Are you 823 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: ready to go? I'm ready? Okay, here we go. Are 824 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: you an early riser or a night owl? Oh? My god, 825 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: depends on the day. Okay, all right, we'll take it. 826 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 1: What is the best stating advice you've ever received? You 827 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,919 Speaker 1: can't change people? What is your go to pizza order? 828 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm really boring, I just like cheese. Can't What is 829 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: one word that your best friends would use to describe you. 830 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 1: What is your favorite curse word? You can say it too. 831 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: You can say everyone gets caught up on this one. 832 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,359 Speaker 1: I have some weird words I say, like that aren't 833 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 1: cuss words that are cuss words, and then I also 834 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: use cuss words. Um, I probably say I dropped the 835 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: F bomb a lot, which is pretty bad. I need 836 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: to work on that. And then you're your your u um, 837 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: I say, oh my god, there's so many things I say, 838 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 1: Like I say fudge a lot, but that's not one 839 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,399 Speaker 1: of the weird ones. But like I'm gonna know, it's 840 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: hard to be on the spot, Like I know, see 841 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: that's a weird thing. I say, my Lanta, nothing to 842 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: shake a stick at in there, like swimwear mente be. 843 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, guys, the nicknames were just about everything. 844 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 1: It's len't just shake a stick. And I'm gonna start 845 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: saying that now. Yeah. Um okay, what is the most 846 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 1: played song or artist in your library? I love Drake 847 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:17,760 Speaker 1: like I love Drake so much. Um, yes, anythink Drake? Okay? 848 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 1: What is your favorite cocktail? Um depends like who I'm 849 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: trying to embody that night I'm trying to be like 850 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: frisky or if I'm trying to be feisty. Um My 851 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: goats would probably be like any kind of like gin cocktail. 852 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: I love a gin tonic? Yes? And does that? Does 853 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: that cue the feisty or does that? What? What version 854 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,359 Speaker 1: do we get with gin? That's like my fun side. Okay, okay, okay, 855 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 1: love it. If you could be any animal, what would 856 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 1: you be? Um? I would be a dolphin. I could 857 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: see that. Actually, just friendly sees a dolphin and they're like, 858 00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,360 Speaker 1: I hate that creature, somebody without a soul? No, but 859 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: what is the current screensaver on your phone? Mine? Is 860 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 1: me playing with my dad as a little kid, and 861 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm going you a kiss on his lap, like, oh 862 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:18,359 Speaker 1: little beanie, Oh I know. Okay, that's that is I 863 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: have to say, one of the best screensavers we've seen. 864 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 1: That's he that's here the late Um. Okay, if you 865 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 1: could visit one place in the world, where would you go? Um, 866 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: I'd love to go to like Bora Bora m seems 867 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: really sexy. Seems really sexy. Yeah, I couldn't be mad 868 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: at that. And you kind of briefly describe this a 869 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: little bit. But if you had to choose a different word, 870 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 1: if you're describing this season at a Bachelor in one 871 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:59,320 Speaker 1: word or phrase, what would it be? This sounds like cliche? 872 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 1: But love okay, love love. Well, we are excited to 873 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: see more of you okay, So Gabby, before we let 874 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: you go, we always do a couple of fun last 875 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 1: housekeeping things. Um, so we always start with our resource, 876 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,320 Speaker 1: which is just helping keep our listeners informed around timely topics, 877 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 1: especially in regards to race in this country, in this franchise. 878 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 1: And so I'll kick it off and then I'll let 879 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 1: Michelle take the lead and share her resource, and then 880 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 1: we'll have you follow up with yours and then we'll 881 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: get into like the last fun Rosenthorne part. But to 882 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: start for this week, my resource is an Instagram account. 883 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,720 Speaker 1: The account is her name is Dara Starr Tucker, and 884 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 1: basically her entire Instagram page features videos about every topic 885 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 1: from race, like things like blackface, grandfather clauses, racism in politics, etc. 886 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 1: But the one that I'm want to highlight today, and 887 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 1: I just would urge anyone to go check out her 888 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 1: entire page and just follow her is it basically discusses 889 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 1: the differences between black pride and white pride. And it's 890 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 1: a conversation that she did this real around because she's 891 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: seen a spark during Black History Month, which is obviously 892 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 1: this month, and around why this designation between like black 893 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: pride and white pride exists, leading from the question of 894 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: like why isn't there a White History Month, which I'm 895 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: sure a lot of maybe her white followers are just 896 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: people on Instagram have asked about. So basically it goes 897 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 1: into like how white pride and black pride pride comes 898 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 1: across differently in this country, and it's basically because of 899 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 1: the way race and culture has developed here. So she 900 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 1: discusses the concept of race as a colonial concept to 901 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: create like this hierarchy to groups of people based on 902 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: their skin color. She gets into basically like the history 903 00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 1: of our country and the origins of slavery, and how 904 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,879 Speaker 1: when they were forced to come over to the United States, 905 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 1: they were stripped of basically all of their traditions, Like 906 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 1: they couldn't have their culture, their language, basically everything was 907 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: stripped from them and they were forced into this like 908 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:16,399 Speaker 1: completely new social framework. And because of that, they had 909 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,760 Speaker 1: to really begin to develop like their own distinct culture 910 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: of their own and a lot of that in part 911 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 1: was fueled by like triumph in the face of extreme adversity. 912 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 1: And she kind of lays it out as like it 913 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 1: developed out of the need to overcome horrific circumstances. So 914 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: it gets into so much more. And all of her 915 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: videos are about I would say, like five minutes, so 916 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: they're really quick, easy things to watch and read if 917 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,760 Speaker 1: you're on the go. But again, I highly recommend checking 918 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: that one out just because it is February and we 919 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 1: are in Black History Month. But her entire Instagram page 920 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,359 Speaker 1: is so interesting, so educational, and so again her name 921 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: is Dara Stark Tucker. So that is my source of 922 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: the week. And Michelle, if you want to go next, Yeah, 923 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,880 Speaker 1: so mine, I'm keeping mine short and sweet. As we 924 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: are really getting into Black History Month, I'll be posting 925 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 1: this like one sheet, So this one sheet reminder slash article, 926 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: it's just the dows and don'ts a Black History Month 927 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 1: really kind of focusing on what we can do to 928 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,879 Speaker 1: celebrate what we shouldn't be doing. Really kind of goes 929 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: into just like quick little tidbits how to support black 930 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 1: owned businesses, how to really raise awareness, how to celebrate 931 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: and not doing it in a water down manner, and 932 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 1: really kind of being sure that we are navigating this 933 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: month insightfully and intentionally at the same time. And so again, 934 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: the dews and don'ts a Black History Month, and I'll 935 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 1: be posting that as like little one sheet on my resources. Cool. 936 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,799 Speaker 1: Thank you Michelle, and now Gabby, if you have a 937 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 1: resource you would like to share, we would love to 938 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 1: hear it. Um. The resource that I was going to 939 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 1: share with you because I talked a lot about my 940 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: therapy and like my journey through therapy was a book 941 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,760 Speaker 1: that my therapist recommended to me and we would actually 942 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: like work through different sections of it. Um. It's called 943 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 1: Attached and it's about adult attachment styles and how that 944 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 1: happens from your childhood and how it like translates into 945 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: your adult life. And I think it's really important to 946 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,240 Speaker 1: understand like how you were raised and how that impacts 947 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 1: you as an adult and how you can be very 948 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 1: mindful of it. So that's that's my resource. Thank thank you. 949 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: I actually will say I just learned a bit more 950 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 1: about I think it's the four different attachment styles, is 951 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,400 Speaker 1: that right, the four of them? And yeah, and like 952 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: you could just take a quiz online too to kind 953 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: of see your attachment style and like why it is 954 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 1: to come. I was very surprised by it, I will say. So. 955 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 1: I think that's great to share in something that you 956 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 1: know anyone at any point can look more into so 957 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 1: thank you for that. And then this is the last part, 958 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: I swear. I know we keep adding on things before 959 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,919 Speaker 1: we let you go, but this is the fun part. 960 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 1: It's your rose and thorn. So basically, your rose is 961 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 1: going to be your highlight or your favorite moment of 962 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 1: your time on Zach season so far. And then on 963 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: the flip side, obviously the rose is something messy, awkward, 964 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: a memory that you like wish maybe didn't happen or 965 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 1: was shown. So whenever you want to share your rose 966 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: and thorn. Okay, So my thorn would probably be the 967 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 1: nickname word vomit that happened. It was pretty embarrassing. People 968 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,520 Speaker 1: are like, is this girl un hinched? Like is she okay? 969 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,919 Speaker 1: So probably that would be my thorn. But like I said, 970 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:51,760 Speaker 1: like getting accustomed to like all of the cameras and everything, 971 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,280 Speaker 1: I think that was a thorn in itself. My rose 972 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 1: would probably be just like the girls that kept me 973 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:04,319 Speaker 1: so grounded when I was struggling in other areas. You know, 974 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,839 Speaker 1: those girls like help boost me up and I'm so 975 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,319 Speaker 1: grateful for that. And then those conversations that did go 976 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 1: well and it wasn't me word vomiting and giving Sacking 977 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 1: nicknames that he didn't want. Those were all really positive moments. Good. 978 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 1: I love that. Well, Gabby, we are excited to see 979 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,319 Speaker 1: more of you. It seems like you're finally getting the time, 980 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: the well deserved time with Sacks. So we can't wait 981 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 1: to see where this takes you. And you know, throughout 982 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 1: this journey it's a lot. We understand. Michelle and I 983 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: have both been in your shoes. It's it's a crazy 984 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: time with social media and just having the world witness 985 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 1: you trying to fall in love. So if you ever 986 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: need anything, any advice to events like we are always 987 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 1: here for you, Well, thank you so much. I really 988 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 1: appreciate it. And it's so awesome to meet both of you. 989 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm having a little fanned girl moment, 990 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: but it's super awesome. We were very excited to have you. Yeah, 991 00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 1: you're somebody that we wanted. So I'm glad that we 992 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,840 Speaker 1: truly saw you. And I'm sure in a few weeks 993 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 1: we'll either see you at the tell all or the 994 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,760 Speaker 1: finale however far you go, so look forward to because 995 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:14,800 Speaker 1: keep watching. Yes, well, thank you Gabby. All right, Michelle, 996 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 1: that was nice when she seems so sweet, she seems 997 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 1: really just sweet and genuine, and I love how open 998 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: she was just about her all that comes, like all 999 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 1: the just different difficulties or obstacles that kind of come 1000 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: with like having ADHD, and I love that she was 1001 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 1: able to open up about that. And I'm sure there's 1002 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 1: a lot of viewers that appreciate her having that Cannon conversation. 1003 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 1: So thank you again, Gabby for being so open. Michelle, 1004 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I love people who have 1005 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: like put in work, and you know, we've all been 1006 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 1: through stuff in our pasts. You know there's no way 1007 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 1: around that. But somebody who recognizes areas where they could 1008 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 1: do better or learn or just become more self aware, 1009 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 1: I really appreciate. I think it's a conversation that we 1010 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 1: should always be having. And so I'm that it sounds 1011 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: like before coming down the show, she went through some stuff, 1012 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 1: she did the work, and I love that she can 1013 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 1: speak on that more so, Yeah, I feel like she 1014 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 1: I feel like so far, like we've talked to some 1015 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 1: great women and I'm like I say this every week. 1016 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, I think they're going to go far, and 1017 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm always not right, So we'll see. But I really 1018 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 1: hope she does. She seems like a very just genuine, real, 1019 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 1: very dumb to earth woman. 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