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Speaker 1: Good Afternoon, s cent R. It's the midday show here.

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Speaker 1: I've on Radio Row at the two NFL Scout and Combine.

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Speaker 1: I'm Leslieler too, fantastic linemates here Max Starks of course,

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Speaker 1: former Pittsburgh Steeler Exports SNR extraordinaire. Gentlemen. How are we

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Speaker 1: doing this afterday? Yeah, we're doing good. We're We're not

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Speaker 1: we're we're we're actually uh, reporting by choice because a

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Speaker 1: all the heavy lifting. We'll do all the heavy lifting,

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Speaker 1: bench press and otherwise. But the receivers, we have about

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Speaker 1: also the tight end group earlier did not bench a

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Speaker 1: lot of rising the tight ends. For me, what's behind that? Max? Obviously,

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Speaker 1: now with this new model with the NFL to make

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Speaker 1: sure you highlight prime time time everything. Television drives everything now, guys,

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Speaker 1: you're seeing less and less guys do it at this point, uh,

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Speaker 1: to make sure that they saved themselves for this evening

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Speaker 1: and have the best showing. Sure, No, that makes a

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Speaker 1: lot of sense when you lay it out that way.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a business decision, right, that's right. Well, I

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Speaker 1: to join me today. A reminder that our combined coverage

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Speaker 1: you're all week brought to you by First National Bank.

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Speaker 1: Let's get started, member F D I C. Guys. You

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Speaker 1: this guy is gonna be a tenear starter because he's

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Speaker 1: just he just gets the job done. I like the

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Speaker 1: fact that a Junior Bowl he took a guy that

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Speaker 1: had played left tackle last year. Yeah, he had been

430
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Speaker 1: a guard previously in Greed, but he played left tackle

431
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Speaker 1: leuss because he was your best guy. And then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, you say, hey, why don't you try

433
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Speaker 1: playing some center this week? And he did it, and

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Speaker 1: he did and he did a good job at it. Like, Okay,

435
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Speaker 1: now you got we could plug you in your utility.

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Speaker 1: You're not being left You're you're not you're You're not

437
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Speaker 1: a five position guy, even though everyone up there you

438
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Speaker 1: asked them today away anywhere, I played all five positions.

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Speaker 1: I was snapping. I was snapping in the hallway just

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Speaker 1: five ago. I mean, I had some great shotguns that

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Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, we get it. But then to actually

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Speaker 1: see and have the mentality go and achieve it right

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Speaker 1: that that's the other thing, because I'm like Zion what

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Speaker 1: he presents, you know, is it pretty? But is it efficient?

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Speaker 1: Does it get the job done? That's what I care about,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I look at like, like I said,

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Speaker 1: Kade is one of those guys that Iron is another one,

448
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Speaker 1: and Kenyan's just I mean Kidney and his Kenyan. I mean,

449
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Speaker 1: he's just he's just that dude. Um. So I mean

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Speaker 1: that's what I want to say. I want to see that,

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Speaker 1: just like I look at Max Mitchell care from him.

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Speaker 1: I like him a lot, and I think he had

453
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Speaker 1: he has the variables that that you're looking for. He

454
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Speaker 1: has great hand size, it's tall, and he's athletic. He's

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Speaker 1: not rigid, because that's the other thing. How how rigid

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Speaker 1: is the guy in movements? Because he can look great,

457
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Speaker 1: take a shirt off, put him on a bench press.

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Speaker 1: He looks good, does a great broad But if if

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Speaker 1: those hips don't move, good about it? Yeah? I was.

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Speaker 1: I was like, you know, that's why when when when

461
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Speaker 1: college coaches are scouting offensive lineman, whether they want to

462
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Speaker 1: bring him in or not, they can watch him play basketball. Yes,

463
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Speaker 1: I want to see how you move. That's the Bill Nunn.

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Speaker 1: Go watch him at the dance campus in the evening well,

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Speaker 1: and that's that. That's honestly when I started getting my

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Speaker 1: college attention, all my coaches that were watching, they came

467
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Speaker 1: to by basketball practice in high school like what is

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Speaker 1: this guy doing? And I'll never get Steve Spurrier. I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting there. He he watched, he was And it was

470
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Speaker 1: a tough practice. We sucked, We just lost a game.

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Speaker 1: So my coach has already had it out for us,

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Speaker 1: and it brings me down to Maxine. Look good, Son,

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Speaker 1: look good. It's like, but your future is in a

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Speaker 1: three points stands, not behind three point When I come

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Speaker 1: on down to Florida, I was like, oh, yeah, he

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Speaker 1: catches you off card. But but I appreciated it because

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Speaker 1: it was like I was because I didn't know what

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Speaker 1: wanted to play. Yeah, I was like, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a basketball play. I mean, Shack and Penny.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm from Orlando in the nineties and the Heydays,

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm gonna go do that. And you know,

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Speaker 1: then you start finding out that this food does taste good. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they'll give me more. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, but that

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Speaker 1: that's the thing you want to see. The verse Tilly

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Speaker 1: like Tristan Worse. What made him off the charts. The

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Speaker 1: dude is jumping out of jumping. Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm like, it didn't get more athletic and

488
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Speaker 1: he had the wrestling background that you know, you can

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Speaker 1: you can also look at that. I mean, those guys

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Speaker 1: have to be able to move, yeah, and flexible and

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Speaker 1: get out of things and twists. I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I covered one of the best ones in the history

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Speaker 1: Work was there, and Carlton was just a killer Matt.

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Speaker 1: You just couldn't take him down. He was just so

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Speaker 1: light on his feet and he turned into it, you know,

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Speaker 1: an all pro guard at the NFL level. Um, you

498
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Speaker 1: know just that that matters to you. You know how

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Speaker 1: to use your hips, you know how to to use

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Speaker 1: your body to throw guys because you're never gonna be

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Speaker 1: in the perfect angle. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, like, like,

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Speaker 1: you're never be the circle on the board that blocks

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Speaker 1: the X when you put an arrow into it right

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Speaker 1: looks theodos and then that X just happens to be

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald Geno act. I mean, you see, it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: how's this guy gonna do? And you need that guy

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Speaker 1: that It's like it's gonna get un orthodox and can

508
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Speaker 1: you get the job done? And I think it's the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing I want to see you get the job done.

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Speaker 1: I don't care how pretty it is. We could work

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Speaker 1: on feet, you know, but are you naturally a striker?

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Speaker 1: Naturally a guy that's gonna be aggressive in the run

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Speaker 1: game and mall somebody. But also how do you work

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Speaker 1: with that change of area, change change of direction, quickness

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Speaker 1: to pass off a game and get back in place,

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Speaker 1: because that's where they're gonna kill you. See that you

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Speaker 1: can block them straight up in a phone booth. I

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Speaker 1: at the Indiana Convention Center in Gorgeous It's been a

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Speaker 1: great week. Yeah. My first year here was two thousand nineteen,

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Speaker 1: so two years nineteen and twenty before the pandemic. Now

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Speaker 1: back here, this is my third time here. I went

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Speaker 1: scooting last night, fellas on those electric scooters around town.

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Speaker 1: My two previous times here, I would have needed seven

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Speaker 1: layers of clothing like I didn't, would have needed to

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Speaker 1: dress like I was getting hey kid, get off the street. No, actually,

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Speaker 1: and around the n c a A headquarters campus and

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Speaker 1: everything I had myself a grandma. I'm in hoodie and jeans,

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Speaker 1: and the whole time I'm thinking like I would have

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Speaker 1: needed in the past to do this, to be dressed

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Speaker 1: like I was going sled riding. It's been it's been

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Speaker 1: a great week so far. You won't see me doing that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh to be young, right, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: I those and I'm like a c L, a c

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Speaker 1: L automatically just just even even stepping on it. I

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna need surgery. I don't know him what yet,

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Speaker 1: just be be, be prepared. And we've also you know

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Speaker 1: cabol Is walking around in his boots again with the

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Speaker 1: other one both achilles in the last six months, Like

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Speaker 1: absolute athlete, gentleman, that Mark Cabali, Aaron Is Achilles what

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Speaker 1: And then also, I mean the other thing that's going on,

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Speaker 1: and seeing like earlier, Yeah, Purdue was warming up this

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Speaker 1: morning in the hallways where I was walking over. So

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Speaker 1: it's like it's like we got so much everything athletics

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Speaker 1: going on around here, and I just can't imagine later

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a buzz um with with athletic talent.

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Speaker 1: I'm just hoping guys, stay on, stay on task, stay

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Speaker 1: on target, don't venture off. Eyes on the prize, on

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Speaker 1: skywalker Cam. I'm like, he's like, like, what's up, man,

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Speaker 1: them like that looks like Bert. And I caught up

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Speaker 1: all that was you by the way you walk. It's

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Speaker 1: I have called Bert Dr Evil since the first day

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Speaker 1: he got hired here, when he was under Dave Lockett.

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Speaker 1: And he's like, come on Max. I'm like like, listen,

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Speaker 1: that ad. Yeah, absolutely absolutely. The Bald Guy Club. I

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Speaker 1: able to pull off the bald. Look, it's not easy. No,

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Speaker 1: you don't one of the ways you can go with that, you,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just not you know. Yeah. And so

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Speaker 1: if you're falling, you don't have a big fool. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If you're follingly challenged, you know you're you're kind of stuck. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: next time you see Bert, tell him why make billions

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Speaker 1: I was like, don't be uh And I said the

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Speaker 1: mini me, it's like, I need info from you. Bert,

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Speaker 1: He was like, it's like, really, Max, when we're not,

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Speaker 1: I said, we're never getting past this, bod Oh, we're delirious.

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Speaker 1: That's how we're doing it. Jonathan tweets us here and

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Speaker 1: says a question for you guys, did you see the

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Speaker 1: video of Malik giving uh something some food too and

635
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Speaker 1: talking with a homeless person yesterday in the street and

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Speaker 1: Indie seems like a great hum. I didn't see. I

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00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: didn't see that good for him that he was. He

638
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Speaker 1: was asked about a young lady Um who apparently is

639
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Speaker 1: a big liberty fan, Um and she has some medical issues,

640
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: and he talked about how he's befriended her and you know,

641
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: plays games with her on the phones and talks to

642
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Speaker 1: her all the time. I think he strikes me as

643
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Speaker 1: a very thoughtful, you know, well grounded young man. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, from that standpoint, Yeah, none of this. He

645
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Speaker 1: was as cool as a cucumber. He was like, it's

646
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Speaker 1: just like you. Yeah, people are gonna be. People are

647
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Speaker 1: entitled to their opinions. If they think we all stink,

648
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: and you know that that's haters. Yeah, that's their opinion.

649
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: They're entitled to it. I got mine, they've got their's.

650
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Speaker 1: I was once told, if you don't haters, you ain't popping.

651
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: So there it is a league. Willis is popping. Yeah. No,

652
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: I always like seeing that stuff from guys who you know,

653
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: you know that they're in a in a privileged position

654
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Speaker 1: to be doing what they're doing and trying to help

655
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Speaker 1: people out along the way, and you don't look beyond

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Speaker 1: your blessings right because it can. It can always change

657
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: in an instant, So you know, be grateful of the

658
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: platform that you have and you know use it for

659
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Speaker 1: the right reason. Absolutely absolutely. If you guys got any

660
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Speaker 1: more Twitter questions for us, will take them throughout the week. Um.

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00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: Another reminder Steelers Nation Radio Twitter account. That's where you

662
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: can stay in lockstep with our schedule. Um, we're here

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Speaker 1: today until sometimes we don't even know, sometimes we don't

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Speaker 1: even know. We're here today until four o'clock. Again, Camp

665
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Speaker 1: Heyward joining us towards the end at three thirty. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you're tuned in for that. Tomorrow another full day

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Speaker 1: of coverage from TAM until four o'clock. And then we've

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Speaker 1: got a three hour show for you on Saturday as

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Speaker 1: well too. So still deep more to come here. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna take another break, will wrap up this first hour

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Speaker 1: of the show. Learn on the other side, dale Llly

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Speaker 1: Max Starks. I'm Wes Leuler. You're listening to ongoing coverage

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Speaker 1: of two NFL scouting combine. I've from Indianapolis right here

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Speaker 1: on a SNR live from Indianapolis. This is continuing cover

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Speaker 1: each of the NFL Combine on Steelers Nation Radio. We

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Speaker 1: are back at the Indiantic Convention Center. It's the midday

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Speaker 1: show here West Leuler, Max starks Dale ally one more time,

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Speaker 1: I mean, who am I kidding? Just reminder not one

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Speaker 1: more time? All of our coverage here brought to you

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Speaker 1: my first National Bank member. I see, let's get started, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: You know who Connor Heyward being here. I figured we

682
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Speaker 1: could close out this hour discussing a little bit, and

683
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Speaker 1: I don't think we've done that so far. Not any

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Speaker 1: big Kyle pitt Aimes Hockinson, some of these guys when

685
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Speaker 1: they came out, no a fan. Both of those guys

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Speaker 1: out of Iowa be in first round picks a couple

687
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: of years ago. But I feel like there's some really

688
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Speaker 1: good day two, day three depth at the position. And

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Speaker 1: when you consider the scope of the things from the

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Speaker 1: Steelers right now, does that feel like something that they

691
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Speaker 1: could be monitoring, something that they could be interested in.

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Speaker 1: Not really, obviously. He's the second round pick last year

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Speaker 1: on on pet Friarmouth. Zack Gentry has come into his

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Speaker 1: own his third years put on UH. He's like a

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Speaker 1: rock solid UH. Mike tomlan Letting letting it drop last

696
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Speaker 1: year that that Zack was up to about two eighty.

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Speaker 1: He's almost offensive tackle size now. Uh And I like

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Speaker 1: a couple of the developmental guys that they have, you know,

699
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Speaker 1: coming up as well. Um you know. So I think

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Speaker 1: that position is one you you know, they'll bring in

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Speaker 1: maybe an undrafted rookie or something like that. I think

702
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Speaker 1: they like what they have at the top two. And

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Speaker 1: then you you know, you'll see they they signed Jay

704
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Speaker 1: Sternberger last year, um late you know, after he's been released.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that has some a little gravitous around

706
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Speaker 1: the league. He's bounced around a little bit, but it

707
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Speaker 1: was a recently I think he was a third round

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Speaker 1: draft pick, has had some off the field stuff, um

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Speaker 1: you know. And I also, you know, so I think

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Speaker 1: they've got they've got four these there right now, four

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Speaker 1: guys that I think are potential NFL calip with two

712
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Speaker 1: of them for sure NFL caliber guys. And then you

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Speaker 1: bring in another guy and let him fight for that

714
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Speaker 1: third spoton. That's largely a you know, looking at the

715
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Speaker 1: special team's role is the number one part of that job.

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Speaker 1: Well for also it's it's a luxury pick. At that

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Speaker 1: point you've got too many other things that you need

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Speaker 1: that you need in this draft to then be focused

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Speaker 1: on that area, especially when you seemingly hit hit the

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Speaker 1: home run that you needed with with with Pat. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's not a lot of emphasis when

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Speaker 1: you're looking at the Titans. I mean, obviously you in

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Speaker 1: the later round, if somebody just falls to you, Yeah,

724
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Speaker 1: if you're sitting there in the fifth round and someone

725
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Speaker 1: that maybe had a third round grade on yeah, but

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00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: typically hasn't happened at that position. Those guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: because what the Steelers are looking for the position is

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Speaker 1: a little bit different than you know, they're not looking

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Speaker 1: for another receiver at tight end um. And I kind

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Speaker 1: of like Kevin Rader as to protect be that that

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Speaker 1: number three guy. He's he's been on the practice he's

732
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Speaker 1: a he's the the prototypical Steeler like hanging around on

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00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: the practice squad for a couple of years and next

734
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: thing you know, you're getting your shot and hey, he's

735
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: this guy can play a little bit, you know, So

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Speaker 1: I think that their their position. Yeah, that position has

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Speaker 1: plenty of especially when you look at you need other

738
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Speaker 1: resources and you also have guys who can play that

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Speaker 1: h back hybrid role. Right, so I don't need to

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Speaker 1: go find a new guy unless all of a sudden,

741
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Speaker 1: my guy, you know, we we lose everybody in a

742
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: freak kneecapping accident. You know. I mean, I will say this,

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Speaker 1: I'll be very surprised unless he gets drafted before if

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00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: Connor Heyward doesn't end up with the Steelers. I mean, listen,

745
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: the family ties matter. Family ties matter. He makes it

746
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Speaker 1: through the draft after which is potentially in the case possibility,

747
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: which is definitely because of the position that he plays. Yeah,

748
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a Steeler. Oh yeah, absolutely, Yea. His

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Speaker 1: brother's going to make sure that he's a steel right.

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00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: Cam will probably pay a salary. Yeah exactly, just kint

751
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: a piece off of my that's cool. I'll read direct.

752
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: I know where it's going. He can stay at my house.

753
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. He's rent free. You know, I'm kicking one

754
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: of the kids out there. Have the new beds. Or

755
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: he's just gonna build him like his own little like

756
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: studio off the back of the property in the basement.

757
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: And he could he could, to Max's point, he you know,

758
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: he could do some of that hybrid stuff. Um, you know,

759
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: play some tight end, play some running back. Uh, you

760
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 1: know at Michigan State and and and it was good

761
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: at it. Uh, you know, he might be the best

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00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: fullback type in this draft. Not a lot of teams

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00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: are looking for that point. Yeah, yeah, because because you're

764
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: San Francisco's of the world already have their guys, right,

765
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: Your Kansas cities have those guys, and those are the

766
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Speaker 1: main people who really use though that still operate a

767
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: lot of ice stuff because they're running heavy. Whereas the Steelers,

768
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: you look at the Canada off we were begging for

769
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: Derek why, I think at one point in the year,

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Speaker 1: like please just just give a lead blocker and then

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00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: he'd come in for two snaps. I mean, they haven't

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Speaker 1: used to fullback extensively since I was here in a

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Speaker 1: long time, a long long I mean, be a really didn't.

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00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: Then it's that's where that's that's that's where the fullback died. Yeah,

775
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: the thunder Dan Criders of the world are not gonna

776
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: be a're not gonna be in high demand. And then,

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Speaker 1: like you said, even how we use Rosie Knicks right

778
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: for a little bit, it still wasn't a true getting.

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Speaker 1: I think, if I remember correctly, the most snaps he

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Speaker 1: got in the season was like three. Yeah, I mean

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00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: that's it's nothing. There's nothing when when you're considering how

782
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: much capital that takes up, like you gotta be an

783
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: ace on special team, but we got so so there's

784
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: no need. It would just simply be a luxury thing.

785
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 1: Like we're gonna find a place for you because your family, right. Yeah,

786
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: and you know if you place, if you're a good

787
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Speaker 1: special player, maybe you're on the fifty three. Otherwise you're

788
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: probably let you sit with Trey Edmonds. Yeah, you know

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00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: trades Trays hung around for a long time now as

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Speaker 1: as a a fullback type body. Um, and you know

791
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: when they needed a guy when somebody was hurt. Yeah,

792
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: that you get fifty on the on the active rosster,

793
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: you bring Tray up, let him play special teams. It's

794
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: never gonna never gonna play on offense. And that's just

795
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Speaker 1: the reality of the situation. I mention Pat Friarmouth there,

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Speaker 1: let's let's stick with that for the last couple of

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Speaker 1: minutes that we have here in this segment. Good solid

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00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: rookie season to build on. I think we're all very

799
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: high on the ceiling for this guy and what he

800
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: can become. But I believe we said this yesterday. It's

801
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: cliche because it's true. You want to see guys take

802
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: that step between their rookie and their second season, between

803
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: freshman and sophomore year. You want to see a noticeable improvement.

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00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: What does that look like for Pat Friarmouth. Well, I

805
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: think for Pat, I mean, I think it honestly comes

806
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 1: to really doing more the same um, you know, being

807
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 1: being being that viable option making or you keep yourself

808
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: open in the past game, which I mean there was

809
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: plenty of times last season right and couldn't get to

810
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: that third read because of pressure where Pratt firemouth was

811
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: wide open. So it would be upgrading the offensive line

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00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: to get to that option when he is there and

813
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: him capitalizing on it, right, you know, I think probably

814
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: the only tip and it was a perfect place. So

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Speaker 1: when I'm doing this, I'm really just parsing um the

816
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Speaker 1: Minnesota game. Yeah, final catch, being able to hold onto

817
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: the football of the year. Absolutely, I mean he threw

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Speaker 1: it through it, he threaded between two guys in tight

819
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Speaker 1: coverage and he got the hand, he got it to

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Speaker 1: the tight ends hands and it's like after that, it's

821
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Speaker 1: not my fault. And I know Pat was dejected after that.

822
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Speaker 1: It would have been I mean, you know, there was

823
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Speaker 1: an all pro safety back to playing the football and

824
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Speaker 1: make perfect punch out of I was standing right there

825
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Speaker 1: in the end zone watching the play live. It was like,

826
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Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. Yea,

827
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: we missed that sometimes for our black and gold glasses.

828
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Speaker 1: But the other guys too, they are they are so

829
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: I mean, really for it's gonna be just cleaning up

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00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of things in the run game. Did

831
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Speaker 1: you get stronger? He needs to get stronger at the

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00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: point being the point tight end, because yes, he can

833
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: do the backside tight end. He can, he could do

834
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: the Todd heat type stuff, but putting him on the

835
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: front side allowing it. So it's not just oh gosh,

836
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: gentry is in. We know which direction the balls right,

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00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: you know. So I think some of those things weight

838
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: room things. But as far as skill set technique on

839
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: the field pass game, he's aces and he and he

840
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: also knows how to go and jump and high pause.

841
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's I mean in the red zone, he's

842
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: a weapon. Um yeah, it just needs to get stronger,

843
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: uh and learn the physicality of the NFL game. He

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Speaker 1: wasn't asked to do that at Penn State. No, No,

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Speaker 1: it's hey, can you go catch this? That's all we

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Speaker 1: need to do because we're usually behind, so we need

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Speaker 1: to be able to trust that we can just throw

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Speaker 1: you out there and go catch and I'll be I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest. Watching Zack Gentry block his first couple

850
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Speaker 1: of seasons, it was not pretty. It was a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He was a quarterback in college. He was a big,

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Speaker 1: long guy, very much like Matt Spaith, you know, one

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Speaker 1: of these six eight tight ends that has to learn

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Speaker 1: how to use their leverage a little bit better because

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Speaker 1: they are so tall. Yeah, and because they're used to

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Speaker 1: being able to play things in arms like It's like, no,

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Speaker 1: you're you're in the middle of the tussle right now, Saith.

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Speaker 1: Spaith got to be a very good block. Absolutely, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: That's what allowed him the opportunity right to go to

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Speaker 1: Chicago and and and continue his career. But I think

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Speaker 1: that that would be the biggest thing is how how

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Speaker 1: they adjust to wait room life from year one d

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Speaker 1: year two. Dale, do you expect more of the same

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Speaker 1: in terms of Mike Tomlin and his messaging, you know,

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Speaker 1: training camp all last summer whenever he was asked about

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Speaker 1: friar moves. You know, he flashed here, oh he did

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Speaker 1: this well today in practice, the same response every time, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But Kenny block, that's the that's always that's always gonna be.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be what Mike's uh going to say about

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Speaker 1: those guys because you watch and that's what I love.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I love about training campus. I

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Speaker 1: often will fall, oh micro around the different units as

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Speaker 1: they're working out on the field and see and he

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Speaker 1: just to hear what his messaging to that particular group.

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Speaker 1: And with the tight ends, it's always block, block, block,

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Speaker 1: block block. You know, these guys can catch the football.

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Speaker 1: They're coming out of the college game where nobody ever

878
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Speaker 1: asked him to block anybody. Um, you know, so you

879
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Speaker 1: know that they do that, but they have to learn

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Speaker 1: how to play with that physical edge at the NFL level.

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Speaker 1: And it's not easy, is you know. Eric Ebron talked

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Speaker 1: about it a lot, and and you know, talked about you,

883
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Speaker 1: I gotta become a better blocker. Sometimes you just can't. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's just not in you. I do believe it is in.

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Speaker 1: I think he wants to be a good all around

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Speaker 1: tight end. Yeah, he's he's certainly seems to be progressing

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Speaker 1: in that direction, and that's obviously um h the sledge

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00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: and things of that nature. Remember I asked Eric Ebron

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Speaker 1: when when he joined the Steelers, when the last time

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Speaker 1: he hit a blocking sled. He's like, uh, maybe my

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Speaker 1: rookie year. You know, they just some places just don't

892
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Speaker 1: do it, and so you're you're not gonna get better

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Speaker 1: at it if you don't do it. One books here

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