1
00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,760
Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

2
00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,040
Speaker 2: Everybody, DJ, Bucky, Rhett here on, move the sticks and

3
00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,719
Speaker 2: we are going to take a little time right now

4
00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,040
Speaker 2: to look at three I will say snug divisions where

5
00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,520
Speaker 2: it's all coming down to the end here with three

6
00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,279
Speaker 2: weeks left to go, I thought we could analyze who

7
00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,400
Speaker 2: we like to come on top, come out on top

8
00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,400
Speaker 2: here as we finish this thing up. I think we

9
00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,240
Speaker 2: should start first of all with the NFC East and Man,

10
00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,159
Speaker 2: the Cowboys and the Eagles neck and neck. Obviously, the

11
00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,680
Speaker 2: Cowboys hold the tiebreaker as we sit right now, Buck,

12
00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,680
Speaker 2: who do you like finishing this thing up and winning

13
00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:37,519
Speaker 2: this division?

14
00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,680
Speaker 3: Who is so?

15
00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,000
Speaker 4: Because the Cowboys are a team that look they dominate

16
00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,400
Speaker 4: the little lightwaist and cupcakes, but they have a tough

17
00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,720
Speaker 4: time when they have to deal with someone that's a

18
00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,680
Speaker 4: heavyweight contender. Meanwhile, the Eagles are floundering. I'm gonna go

19
00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,599
Speaker 4: with the Philadelphia Eagles to finish out on top. Even

20
00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,080
Speaker 4: though they're struggling right now. I believe they kind of

21
00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,720
Speaker 4: find their way. I'm a big believer in the quarterback

22
00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,200
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts. I think he in some of his postgame

23
00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,680
Speaker 4: comments when he talked about needing more commitment from some

24
00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,240
Speaker 4: of the guys. I think they have this many of

25
00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,000
Speaker 4: the minds where they come together and they get on

26
00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,440
Speaker 4: the same page. All is not bleak. Even though they're

27
00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,560
Speaker 4: in the midst of a three game losing streak. They

28
00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,119
Speaker 4: get it back on track and they finished strong.

29
00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,160
Speaker 5: Did love seeing, obviously, what we saw from the Cowboys

30
00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,520
Speaker 5: in Orchard Park, New York against the Bills this last week.

31
00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,800
Speaker 5: I mean, you just that defense getting run on that

32
00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,880
Speaker 5: way was something that felt like we haven't seen since

33
00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,360
Speaker 5: what the forty nine ers debacle, you know, back earlier

34
00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:37,720
Speaker 5: in the season. I'm kind of trending Cowboys here, and

35
00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,480
Speaker 5: I know that Jalen Hurts wasn't himself on Monday night

36
00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,440
Speaker 5: in Seattle, So I'm just kind of like, I'm hoping

37
00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,760
Speaker 5: that that's the case for Philly.

38
00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:48,520
Speaker 3: But I feel like I.

39
00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,480
Speaker 5: Have more confidence in the way that Dallas had been playing.

40
00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,040
Speaker 5: Whereas for the Eagles now, it's been a couple of

41
00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,160
Speaker 5: games here recently where they've kind of let things. They've

42
00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,559
Speaker 5: showed some signs of slippage. Cowboys had been playing really

43
00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,920
Speaker 5: well up until that Buffalo loss. They for whatever reason

44
00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,800
Speaker 5: have those clunkers from time to time and hoping that's

45
00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,240
Speaker 5: an aberration and not more of the norm. And I

46
00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,520
Speaker 5: think I'm going to go with the Cowboys to come

47
00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,680
Speaker 5: out on top of this division. I think Dak Prescott

48
00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,200
Speaker 5: on the whole has been playing a little bit better

49
00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,480
Speaker 5: than Jalen Art's and so I feel better about the

50
00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,440
Speaker 5: quarterback play there at dispoint.

51
00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mentioned a minute ago. Obviously they've split

52
00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,919
Speaker 2: this year when they've played. The Eagles won the first

53
00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,560
Speaker 2: meeting with the Cowboys. The Cowboys won the second meeting.

54
00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,560
Speaker 2: But you will use the word clunker rehtt and what

55
00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,359
Speaker 2: do the clunkers have in common? You're playing elite teams

56
00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,880
Speaker 2: on the road. San Francisco forty two to ten, they

57
00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,880
Speaker 2: got hammered Buffalo thirty one to ten. Both those teams

58
00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,600
Speaker 2: really good teams, talented teams, tough environments. They go on

59
00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,400
Speaker 2: the road, they lose, Well, you look at the rest

60
00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,480
Speaker 2: of their schedule at Miami's up next, So that fits

61
00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,440
Speaker 2: the criteria elite team on the road. That would scare

62
00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,840
Speaker 2: me right there if you're the Dallas Cowboys, because if

63
00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,440
Speaker 2: they were to lose that game, then you finish up

64
00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,079
Speaker 2: Detroit at home was a really really good football team,

65
00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,720
Speaker 2: and then at Washington, which is a divisional game. You

66
00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,440
Speaker 2: never know what you're gonna get there. It's not an

67
00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,040
Speaker 2: easy run. They just lose one of those games. They're

68
00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,280
Speaker 2: in trouble because the Eagles should win out even though

69
00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,160
Speaker 2: they're not. They're not playing well. The Cowboys are playing

70
00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,320
Speaker 2: better than the Eagles, but they've got two games with

71
00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,600
Speaker 2: the Giants sandwiched in between that as a meeting with

72
00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:18,320
Speaker 2: the Cardinals.

73
00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:23,960
Speaker 5: So struggled though against teams. The Dolphins struggled to get

74
00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,400
Speaker 5: better teams this year and without.

75
00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,840
Speaker 2: But if you just it's hard not I can't divorce

76
00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,400
Speaker 2: myself from what we just saw a last week for

77
00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,840
Speaker 2: each of those teams and legit argument, I just tell

78
00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,160
Speaker 2: me that that that will be uh look, it'll be

79
00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:38,560
Speaker 2: a big game.

80
00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,280
Speaker 6: We'll see what happens.

81
00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,160
Speaker 2: There's a lot gonna be uh decided in the NFL

82
00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,120
Speaker 2: after this next week because of some of the matchups

83
00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,680
Speaker 2: that we have. I think that's one of the key

84
00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,200
Speaker 2: ones there when you look at the Miami Dolphins hosting

85
00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,360
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys. All right, let's get to the next

86
00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,000
Speaker 2: one here. You're up first on this one. NFC South

87
00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,920
Speaker 2: is kind of a muddy mess. Who do you like there, Bucks, Bucks, Bucks.

88
00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,800
Speaker 2: I just feel like the way that that Baker Field's playing.

89
00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,640
Speaker 2: Dave Canalis, I think is he and he and Baker

90
00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,880
Speaker 2: together have figured out the way that they want to operate.

91
00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,680
Speaker 2: They got Rashad White rolling a little bit now to

92
00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,280
Speaker 2: both the run game in the pass game. Mike Evans

93
00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,320
Speaker 2: is having another terrific season. Doesn't get talked about nearly enough.

94
00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,280
Speaker 2: I just I feel like.

95
00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,880
Speaker 5: The quarterbacks playing really well there in Tampa, probably playing

96
00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,240
Speaker 5: even though Derek Carr probably had his best game as

97
00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,120
Speaker 5: a Saint this last week, I still feel comfortable that

98
00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,400
Speaker 5: the Bucks have gotten better quarterback play more consistently than

99
00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,520
Speaker 5: anybody in this division. And their defense when healthy is

100
00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,359
Speaker 5: the best one in the division. So give me the

101
00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:34,920
Speaker 5: bucks buck.

102
00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:36,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with you.

103
00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,159
Speaker 4: When it comes to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Baker Mayfield

104
00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,120
Speaker 4: and Dave Canallis had done a really good job settling

105
00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:41,799
Speaker 4: in in terms.

106
00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,880
Speaker 6: Of how Baker is utilized in this offense.

107
00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,360
Speaker 4: It's a mix of some of the stuff that Russell

108
00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,719
Speaker 4: Wilson was doing up in Seattle and then some of

109
00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:48,960
Speaker 4: the things that Baker's always done.

110
00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,200
Speaker 6: When it comes to being a quick rhythm passer.

111
00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,680
Speaker 4: You look at the personnel that they have available, Chris

112
00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,160
Speaker 4: Godwin and Mike Evans outside you talking about Rashad White

113
00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,200
Speaker 4: being able to find his way as a runner and

114
00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,240
Speaker 4: then defensively, Todd Bowle knows how the rat set up

115
00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,280
Speaker 4: the pressure in key moments. The Bucks to me are

116
00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,160
Speaker 4: the class of the division. A little bit about them,

117
00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,560
Speaker 4: but more so about the others. I don't think the

118
00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,239
Speaker 4: others are consistent enough to get on board and catch

119
00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:12,920
Speaker 4: the buccaneer.

120
00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I won't believer. The point I'm with you, guys,

121
00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,640
Speaker 2: Tampa to me is the is the team that I

122
00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,200
Speaker 2: trust the most. Again, I don't know that any of

123
00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,520
Speaker 2: these teams, whoever wins that I don't see them doing.

124
00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,440
Speaker 6: Much in the postseason.

125
00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,560
Speaker 2: But for you know, Tampa, for the changes that they've

126
00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,600
Speaker 2: under went over the last couple of years, for them

127
00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,480
Speaker 2: to be in position to go win this division and

128
00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,880
Speaker 2: really finding something here in a resurgence of Baker Mayfield.

129
00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,280
Speaker 2: Hat tip to Jason light in their group. All right,

130
00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,880
Speaker 2: AFC South, I'll start us off there. Indie to me

131
00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,800
Speaker 2: is just the one that I trust the most. I

132
00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,320
Speaker 2: trust Shane Stiken the job that he's done. I trust

133
00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,800
Speaker 2: this defense, which has played really, really well. It is

134
00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,600
Speaker 2: again it's a crowded field there, but that's the team

135
00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,719
Speaker 2: that even when you know guys have come in and

136
00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,920
Speaker 2: out of the lineup. I think you've seen it in Houston, Buck,

137
00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,560
Speaker 2: some of the pieces come out of the lineup. Then

138
00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,040
Speaker 2: it's you know, it impacts them a little bit. Whereas

139
00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,040
Speaker 2: on the other side, I look at Indianapolis and even

140
00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,120
Speaker 2: with the shuffling of the chairs here, I just man,

141
00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,440
Speaker 2: I've been impressed with the way they've the way they've

142
00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:11,560
Speaker 2: shown up here as of late.

143
00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,119
Speaker 4: I trust the Colts. Look I don't I don't blame

144
00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,960
Speaker 4: you for trusting the Coast. They played really well. They've

145
00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,040
Speaker 4: done a really good job of plugging young players in,

146
00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,880
Speaker 4: backup players in and not skipping. To be the issue

147
00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,120
Speaker 4: that the Indianapolis Coast run into is the Jaguars hold

148
00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,120
Speaker 4: the time breaker over them, and if the Jaguars went

149
00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,800
Speaker 4: two or three is going to be their division. I

150
00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,520
Speaker 4: don't think they can catch them. And then when it

151
00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,520
Speaker 4: comes down to it, like we look at the quarterbacks,

152
00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna trust that the other quarterbacks Trevor Lawrence and

153
00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,719
Speaker 4: he just drouted go and play better down the stress

154
00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,000
Speaker 4: than Garna Minshew, No knock the guna minch you. I

155
00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,200
Speaker 4: just think those guys are better equipped to handle the

156
00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,520
Speaker 4: pressure rise environments. So give me the Jags to find

157
00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,880
Speaker 4: a way to kind of get into the tournament as

158
00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:48,679
Speaker 4: a division winner.

159
00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,360
Speaker 5: And I think our answers here speak to the competitiveness

160
00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,000
Speaker 5: at the top of this division because I'm going to

161
00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,040
Speaker 5: take the Texans. Spend on the Texans all year, and

162
00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,360
Speaker 5: I get it that they've been depleted a little bit

163
00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,120
Speaker 5: to turn to the key player injury spots with Tank

164
00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,040
Speaker 5: Dell out for the rest of the year, Nico Collins,

165
00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,680
Speaker 5: you know, was down this last week, Daldon Schultz has

166
00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,280
Speaker 5: been in and out of the lineup. But I do

167
00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,880
Speaker 5: think that if as long as c. J. Stroud does

168
00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,960
Speaker 5: not miss, you know, the rest of the season and

169
00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,200
Speaker 5: it has more time to come back in here and

170
00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,640
Speaker 5: get himself back right with this offense, I think they've

171
00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,480
Speaker 5: got a chance. And I also think that they've got

172
00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,720
Speaker 5: the grittiest defense out of all these three teams, including

173
00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,040
Speaker 5: the Colts and the Jaguars. And I know we're gonna

174
00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,560
Speaker 5: when we get into that a little bit heavier here

175
00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,720
Speaker 5: in a little while, But I think Demico Ryans also,

176
00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,520
Speaker 5: you know, has this team. It's three really good head

177
00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,360
Speaker 5: coaches too. When you think about this thing you talked

178
00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,840
Speaker 5: about Shane Stikens candidacy for Coach of the Year, Demiko

179
00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,000
Speaker 5: Ryan should be right up there. With the turnaround this

180
00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,280
Speaker 5: Texans team has enjoyed this year, particularly on the defensive

181
00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,880
Speaker 5: side of the ball, and I just I feel comfortable

182
00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,560
Speaker 5: with where Houston is as long as c J. Stroud

183
00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,920
Speaker 5: does not missed significant time down the stretch here.

184
00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if Tank Dell was healthy, which sounds

185
00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,800
Speaker 2: crazy for a rookie, his impact on this team I

186
00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,520
Speaker 2: think is pretty significant. Obviously, get CJ. Stroud back, but

187
00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,240
Speaker 2: missing Tank del to me is a big deal. But

188
00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,120
Speaker 2: I'm with you. Demiko Ryans in the mix as the

189
00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,400
Speaker 2: coach of the Year. Not only has changed what they've

190
00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,800
Speaker 2: done defensively on the field, they found their quarterback of

191
00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,160
Speaker 2: the future, but the whole culture it just feels totally

192
00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,320
Speaker 2: different than anything we've seen from Houston in quite some time.

193
00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,200
Speaker 2: So quite a story there with Demiko Ryans and the

194
00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,560
Speaker 2: Houston Texans. We can kind of stay all the Houston

195
00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,520
Speaker 2: Texans here, guys.

196
00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,040
Speaker 1: This is a team defensively coming off of a game

197
00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,240
Speaker 1: where they completely shut down Derrick Henry twenty touches ten

198
00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,200
Speaker 1: scrimmage yards, just the fewest yards by a player with

199
00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,920
Speaker 1: twenty plus touches in how long.

200
00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,160
Speaker 6: Ever, that's pretty good.

201
00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,680
Speaker 2: I think NFL history is something to be proud of

202
00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,840
Speaker 2: when you do something that hasn't been done before. So

203
00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,720
Speaker 2: this defense, when you look at him, Rhett your somebody

204
00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,040
Speaker 2: pays a lot of attention. You're very tied in and

205
00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,520
Speaker 2: close in that organization. What have you seen when you've

206
00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,800
Speaker 2: dug and done some homework on this Texans defense?

207
00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,160
Speaker 5: The homegrown player, you know, I think that's that is

208
00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,040
Speaker 5: something that kind of rings true there. And obviously it

209
00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,080
Speaker 5: starts up front. I think Will Anderson has been that

210
00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,320
Speaker 5: franchise cornerstone on the defensive side of the ball. And

211
00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,439
Speaker 5: then you know Derek Stingley when he's come back and

212
00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,079
Speaker 5: gotten healthy, has been huge in the back end from

213
00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,400
Speaker 5: the coverage perspective, Jaln Petrie, and then you mixed in

214
00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,280
Speaker 5: some quality veterans there right both at the safety spot

215
00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,440
Speaker 5: and then you know at the linebacker spot.

216
00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,600
Speaker 3: Denzel Perriman I thought gave him a big lift in

217
00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:27,240
Speaker 3: this game, and.

218
00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,360
Speaker 5: We talked about that a little bit next to Christian Harris, again,

219
00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,480
Speaker 5: another homegrown draft pick there on the second level for

220
00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:34,880
Speaker 5: that Houston Texas defense.

221
00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,640
Speaker 3: But I do think that a.

222
00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,440
Speaker 5: Guy that was drafted a couple of years ago and

223
00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,400
Speaker 5: has maybe taken a little bit more time to kind

224
00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,200
Speaker 5: of find his impact with this team is Jonathan Garnard

225
00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,239
Speaker 5: from Florida. I mean, he could he leads all players

226
00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,960
Speaker 5: in the league right now in sacks over the course

227
00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,959
Speaker 5: of the month of December. He's got six in the

228
00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,600
Speaker 5: last three games. He's got four games this year where

229
00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,520
Speaker 5: he's had two or more more sacks, and fourteen now

230
00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,480
Speaker 5: on the season in total. Probably one of the quietest

231
00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,840
Speaker 5: impact edge rushers in the league right now.

232
00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:06,160
Speaker 3: Now.

233
00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,800
Speaker 5: He doesn't have the total amount of pressures as say,

234
00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,040
Speaker 5: like you know, a Nick Bosa.

235
00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,040
Speaker 3: Or a TJ. Watt or an Eaton Hutchinson.

236
00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,320
Speaker 5: But what he's doing is he's finding a way to

237
00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,360
Speaker 5: get to the quarterback and get him to the ground.

238
00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,319
Speaker 3: He is getting home when he does get the pressures.

239
00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,400
Speaker 3: So I do appreciate that.

240
00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,160
Speaker 5: You know, you love the guys that do affect the passer,

241
00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,120
Speaker 5: even if it is with a pressure not getting him

242
00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,679
Speaker 5: to the ground. But Gernard has gotten his guy, has

243
00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,679
Speaker 5: gotten the opposing quarterbacks to the ground a lot, and

244
00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,280
Speaker 5: it's been a real nice one two punch off both

245
00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,120
Speaker 5: edges when he's there. And Will Anderson has been healthy.

246
00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,199
Speaker 5: So I think they've got playmakers that at all three

247
00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:41,200
Speaker 5: levels of this defense.

248
00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, really good defense is really well constructed, not only

249
00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,079
Speaker 4: with the personnel that they have, but what Demiko Rance

250
00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,200
Speaker 4: has done in terms of making sure that the personnel

251
00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,600
Speaker 4: is put in positions to really excel. You talked about

252
00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,000
Speaker 4: Anderson and Garnard, those guys that play well on the

253
00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,160
Speaker 4: outside in the back end.

254
00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:57,640
Speaker 6: We can talk about.

255
00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,440
Speaker 4: Stanley and the job that he's doing in Jimmy Ward

256
00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,520
Speaker 4: been a nice leader in the middle. But the guy

257
00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,960
Speaker 4: they just recently picked up, Derrick Barnett, being able to

258
00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,200
Speaker 4: come in and step in to replace Will Anderson. Maybe

259
00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,040
Speaker 4: not a front line starter, but another guy that you

260
00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,719
Speaker 4: can throw in in the rotation. Physicality, the toughness, the

261
00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,200
Speaker 4: veteran experience. He has really settled kind of like that

262
00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,480
Speaker 4: Third Russier situation. This is a good team because they

263
00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,839
Speaker 4: play hard, they're physical, and they understand what they're doing.

264
00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,720
Speaker 4: You don't see them give up just easy plays because

265
00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,199
Speaker 4: they're not on the same page from a communication standpoint.

266
00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:36,560
Speaker 4: To me, that really illustrates the coaching that Dimico Ryans

267
00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,120
Speaker 4: has really put in place when it comes to the

268
00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:38,880
Speaker 4: defense of the ball.

269
00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:39,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

270
00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,600
Speaker 2: I pulled up Greener's notes here, guys. You guys talking

271
00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:43,839
Speaker 2: about the year that he's had.

272
00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:45,320
Speaker 6: Go back through it.

273
00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:45,800
Speaker 5: You know.

274
00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,080
Speaker 2: Interesting thing with him. He was the ninetieth pick. He

275
00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,880
Speaker 2: was one hundred and fourth or one hundred and fourth player.

276
00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,040
Speaker 2: He was six oh three three two sixty three. He

277
00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,480
Speaker 2: ran four eight seven, so he did not run well.

278
00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,760
Speaker 2: I think that probably dimed him a little bit. I

279
00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,600
Speaker 2: played with his hand up and down he had he had,

280
00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,240
Speaker 2: He played with getoff, so the play speed was good.

281
00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:09,680
Speaker 2: He can shock and separate, grab, pull, he can slip blocks.

282
00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,640
Speaker 2: He had an eighty yard fumble return touchdown against Van

283
00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,400
Speaker 2: He thought he played really really hard. Again, I think

284
00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,160
Speaker 2: the testing got him a little bit and caused him

285
00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,480
Speaker 2: to fall him and as rhet mentioned, sometimes takes a

286
00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,160
Speaker 2: little time for guys to come together. The other thing

287
00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,760
Speaker 2: I would add, and Buck, I'll kick it back to

288
00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,720
Speaker 2: you on this real quick. But they found a fit

289
00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,640
Speaker 2: like a guy like Sheldon Rankins, who knows this scheme

290
00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,240
Speaker 2: and understands how to play an attack front. He when

291
00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,160
Speaker 2: you watch their tape and you watch all their pressures

292
00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,960
Speaker 2: and you see the guys, you see Will Anderson doing

293
00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,959
Speaker 2: his thing, and Greener's doing his thing, Sheldon rankins, there's

294
00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,119
Speaker 2: nowhere to go because he's getting so much inside penetration,

295
00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,160
Speaker 2: which I think can even goose some of the numbers

296
00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,400
Speaker 2: for the guys on the outside.

297
00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,079
Speaker 6: Absolutely. I mean we talk about it. Man.

298
00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,000
Speaker 4: Just just being able to get the perfect fits for

299
00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,280
Speaker 4: the scheme and the way the pieces of the puzzle

300
00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,679
Speaker 4: fit for the Texans has been terrific. I can only

301
00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,280
Speaker 4: imagine how good this team will be when they began

302
00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,680
Speaker 4: to draft more of their player players and kind of

303
00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,640
Speaker 4: plug in some of what they proceed to be their

304
00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,640
Speaker 4: weak areas with guys that are not only great fits,

305
00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,760
Speaker 4: but maybe better players. This this team is trending the

306
00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,520
Speaker 4: right way, and I don't think any of us would

307
00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,760
Speaker 4: have thought that the Texans would be the team that

308
00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,000
Speaker 4: we're talking about.

309
00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,080
Speaker 6: In this light right now based on what Dimko Ryans inherited.

310
00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,080
Speaker 5: Just getting back to your notes on Greener there, you know,

311
00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,480
Speaker 5: because the first thing in my notes and watching all

312
00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,600
Speaker 5: of his pressures from this season was awesome get off

313
00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,600
Speaker 5: that was the first thing. And so that, yeah, maybe

314
00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,440
Speaker 5: not something you would expect from an edge rusher. That's

315
00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,240
Speaker 5: you know, borderline of four to nine player coming off

316
00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,600
Speaker 5: the end, but he had I thought he had great

317
00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,640
Speaker 5: bend too in really good hand usage and trying to

318
00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,559
Speaker 5: stay clean when clearing the edge. And then he victimized

319
00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,040
Speaker 5: Makai Beckton on the up and under as a nice

320
00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,559
Speaker 5: counter to that speed move. And just I think he's

321
00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,679
Speaker 5: got some tools in the toolbox. There is an edge

322
00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,480
Speaker 5: rusher and it's been fun to watch, Yeah, no doubt.

323
00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:54,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

324
00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,200
Speaker 2: I watched a lot of sack reels this week in

325
00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,319
Speaker 2: studying that, and unfortunately for the Jets, Mkai beck shows

326
00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,000
Speaker 2: up quite a fit. A lot of showed up against

327
00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,960
Speaker 2: it in the Thibodeau tape as well.

328
00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,079
Speaker 6: All right, let's take a break.

329
00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,400
Speaker 2: When we come back, we're going to jump into this

330
00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,200
Speaker 2: classic we've got coming up on Christmas Eve. I might

331
00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,040
Speaker 2: be a little loose using the term classic, but we've

332
00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,280
Speaker 2: got the Saints and the Rams. We'll jump into that

333
00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:24,000
Speaker 2: preview right after this. The Holiday Classic is back on

334
00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,240
Speaker 2: NFL Network this Christmas Eve. Watch a special Sunday Night

335
00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,760
Speaker 2: of primetime Football as the Patriots and Broncos light up

336
00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,360
Speaker 2: the night the NFL Holiday Class at Christmas Eve live

337
00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,800
Speaker 2: at eight pm Eastern only on NFL Network and streaming

338
00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,960
Speaker 2: on NFL Plus. All right, that's going to wrap up

339
00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,640
Speaker 2: the weekend on Sunday night. But to kick things off,

340
00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,120
Speaker 2: we've got a Thursday night matchup, a big one here,

341
00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,520
Speaker 2: both these teams right in the mix. The New Orleans

342
00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,560
Speaker 2: Saints taking on the Rams and Buck let's start on

343
00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,320
Speaker 2: the Rams side of things. I think this is Sean

344
00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,880
Speaker 2: mcvay's best coaching job. I know he's won a Super Bowl.

345
00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,320
Speaker 2: I know he's been to another Super Bowl. This year,

346
00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,240
Speaker 2: what he's done with this roster, to me, has been

347
00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:03,840
Speaker 2: his most impressive coaching job.

348
00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:04,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

349
00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,440
Speaker 4: I have been more impressed with Sean mcvrady than I

350
00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,720
Speaker 4: have been this year, being able to take the team

351
00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,520
Speaker 4: that Look, they got rid of a lot of the

352
00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,080
Speaker 4: players that were bogging down in terms of money and

353
00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,359
Speaker 4: those things, and they're trying to do with young, homegrown products,

354
00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,760
Speaker 4: and to their surprise, they've had a lot of success.

355
00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,160
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford, being a holdover veteran quarterback, has been able

356
00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,960
Speaker 4: to really help these young guys on the outside developed

357
00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,520
Speaker 4: Pukin Nakua has been a terrific find.

358
00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,280
Speaker 6: You now pair him with Cooper Cupp.

359
00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,280
Speaker 4: You got two guys who are interchangeable on the perimeter,

360
00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,520
Speaker 4: Colin Williams being able to run the ball effectively. Look,

361
00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,000
Speaker 4: in the second season, this offense is trending the right way.

362
00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,680
Speaker 4: And then Morris has done a really good job of

363
00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,920
Speaker 4: just getting this defense to play hard. They don't beat

364
00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,080
Speaker 4: themselves and because of that, they've been in a lot

365
00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,120
Speaker 4: of games this season.

366
00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, we look at to get a lot of this

367
00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,320
Speaker 5: comes down to quarterback play. You know, I'm sure you

368
00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,280
Speaker 5: know there were some who thought, well, look, if you're

369
00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,640
Speaker 5: gonna kind of tear this roster down a little bit

370
00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,280
Speaker 5: and try to build this thing back through the draft.

371
00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,680
Speaker 3: Why are you hanging on to Matthew Stafford. Well, because

372
00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:04,840
Speaker 3: he's really dang good.

373
00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,560
Speaker 5: And you know, with with Cooper cup still there and

374
00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,960
Speaker 5: with the emergence of a of a run game led

375
00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,520
Speaker 5: by Karen Williams, now this feels like.

376
00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,200
Speaker 3: Rams teams of old.

377
00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,760
Speaker 5: And you know, with their commitment to the run and

378
00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,920
Speaker 5: then their ability to push it down the field, you

379
00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,280
Speaker 5: get another young receiver into the mix kind of the

380
00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,880
Speaker 5: way that Cooper Cup jumped onto the scene in his

381
00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,000
Speaker 5: first couple of years in the league.

382
00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,320
Speaker 3: With Pooka and Akua, I think there's a lot to

383
00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:29,040
Speaker 3: like there.

384
00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,760
Speaker 5: Young pieces littered throughout this roster, more so than there

385
00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,400
Speaker 5: have been in the last few years now for La

386
00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,440
Speaker 5: and I just it comes down a quarterback for me,

387
00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,600
Speaker 5: and I think the Rams are a playoff team and

388
00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,600
Speaker 5: one of those three wild cards there in the NFC.

389
00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's setting up for one of the more intriguing storylines,

390
00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,120
Speaker 2: which is if the Niners have it clinched in terms

391
00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,920
Speaker 2: of the number one seed going into the last week

392
00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,520
Speaker 2: of the season, but they could keep the Rams from

393
00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,240
Speaker 2: the tournament and that little rivalry that they have right

394
00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,840
Speaker 2: there because you see he plays and doesn't play, if

395
00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,280
Speaker 2: that situation were to present itself on the SAT side

396
00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,199
Speaker 2: of things, Rhett, I just I look, they're coming off

397
00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,040
Speaker 2: a couple of wins against two terrible teams in Carolina

398
00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,919
Speaker 2: and the Giants. But I just I don't have a

399
00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,359
Speaker 2: lot of confidence here in this group, especially when you

400
00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,160
Speaker 2: factor in short week on the road.

401
00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get that. And now the one thing that

402
00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,040
Speaker 5: you will say is there's a little bit of feel

403
00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,639
Speaker 5: good going on there in New Orleans with the quarterback spot,

404
00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,600
Speaker 5: Derek Carr played his best game of the season. You know, again,

405
00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,639
Speaker 5: say which one about the Giants. I think they're a

406
00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,520
Speaker 5: you know, they're a better defense probably than they have

407
00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,040
Speaker 5: been offensively for the better part of this season outside

408
00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,720
Speaker 5: of the Tommy Devido magic. But I think that they're

409
00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:45,720
Speaker 5: still there.

410
00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,040
Speaker 3: You know, there's some weapons there, Chris Olave, obviously, Alvin Kamara.

411
00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,120
Speaker 5: But I just don't know if we've seen it enough

412
00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,480
Speaker 5: consistently to feel good about this team on a week

413
00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,840
Speaker 5: to week basis. And that's why we didn't even mention

414
00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,879
Speaker 5: them when we were talking about who's gonna win the

415
00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,639
Speaker 5: NFC South. Now, I did not think that they'd be

416
00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,600
Speaker 5: in the wildcard hunt the way that they are here,

417
00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,440
Speaker 5: in the way that the NFC has transpired in the

418
00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,720
Speaker 5: bottom you know, six, seven, eight, nine spots. But they

419
00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,840
Speaker 5: might and in that case, this game is huge, really

420
00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,880
Speaker 5: for both these teams. But I just feel more comfortable

421
00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,639
Speaker 5: Bucky right now with the Rams that I do with

422
00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:16,359
Speaker 5: the Saints.

423
00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can believe that, And a lot of it

424
00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,520
Speaker 4: has been the up and down nature of their offense

425
00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,160
Speaker 4: and particularly Derry Carr. Derek Carr plays Greade one week,

426
00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,600
Speaker 4: not great the next week. There appears to be some

427
00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,520
Speaker 4: internal issues with Derek Carr and his teammates offensively, and

428
00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,040
Speaker 4: so I hear Dennis Allen. Dennis Allen is all in

429
00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,600
Speaker 4: on his quarterback, and if his quarterback rises to what

430
00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,720
Speaker 4: they think he is, well, yeah, this team would get

431
00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,560
Speaker 4: into the fustseason because he'll begin to take over. This

432
00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,480
Speaker 4: to me is the first time in a long time

433
00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,200
Speaker 4: that Derek Carr is playing in meaningful games with his

434
00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,440
Speaker 4: reputation at the line. We could talk about this team

435
00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,440
Speaker 4: going to the playoffs or him going to the playoffs

436
00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,800
Speaker 4: with the Raiders a couple of seasons ago. But to me,

437
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,399
Speaker 4: this is the biggest moment for Derrek Carr in the

438
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,119
Speaker 4: stage because we'll see if he is what many people

439
00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,880
Speaker 4: think that he is based on how he's been put

440
00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,320
Speaker 4: in this situation to lead the Stays to another love.

441
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,399
Speaker 2: Well, we're not going to throw the ball down the

442
00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,000
Speaker 2: field very much. So to me, you got to rally

443
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,600
Speaker 2: and tackle. If the Rams rally and tackle in this game,

444
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,360
Speaker 2: they're going to win the ball game. Because I mean

445
00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,440
Speaker 2: even last week talked about that being his best game

446
00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,280
Speaker 2: reret and he had one completion over twenty yards in

447
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,800
Speaker 2: that game, so everything's underneath, not a lot of yards there.

448
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,119
Speaker 2: So to me, it just comes down to can you

449
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,080
Speaker 2: tackle Alvin kamaraan company on these underneath throws that you're

450
00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 2: going to be seeing over and over and over again.

451
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,200
Speaker 2: That'll be the key to that ball game. All right,

452
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,160
Speaker 2: this has been a fun one today. I appreciate you guys.

453
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,119
Speaker 2: We covered a lot of ground. I hope you enjoyed

454
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,200
Speaker 2: it as much as we did, and we'll be back.

455
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,160
Speaker 2: We've got episodes each and every day, five days a week,

456
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,480
Speaker 2: including a bonus episode this week. We do appreciate you.

457
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 2: Wish you a very happy holidays. Right here on, Move

458
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 2: the sticks.