1 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: in Barrea, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 3 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck Now live in Ohio on eight 4 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and 5 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: All right, a lot factually incorrect there, Nathan Zegura alongside 7 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: the voice of your Cleveland Brown's Jim Donovan. We are 8 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: not at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus in Berea. We 9 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: are at the Greenbrier in West Virginia, and in just 10 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: about an hour and fifty minutes, the first training camp 11 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: practice of the Cleveland Browns twenty twenty four season will 12 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: take place on the fields right in front of us. 13 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: We will be here at the Greenbrier until next Friday. 14 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: So lots of content for you. Don't look at me 15 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,639 Speaker 2: like that. Give me lots of content for you. Here Friday, 16 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: not just right this Friday. Back a week from Friday. 17 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: A week from Friday. Jim, great to be with you. 18 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: We flew this morning and here we go. 19 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. It's great to be here. I 20 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: was not here and part of this last year. But 21 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: this is great. It really is. 22 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 4: You know, it's an interesting experience. 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: I'm excited you're going to get an opportunity this year 24 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: to experience, you know, being here and kind of just 25 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: the fact that it forces this team to come together. 26 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 2: They are around each other basically twenty four to seven 27 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: for the next eight or nine days. And you talk 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: to the players last year about it. To a man, 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: they thought it had a lot to do with the 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: chemistry and the team's ability to stay together and overcome adversity. 31 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: And the Browns are hoping that they can have a 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: repeat of that. 33 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, Nathan, that's who I was kind 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: of wondering what made it so effective last year that 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: you know it was a gone conclusion that they would 36 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: come back this year. 37 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 5: And here they are. 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: And the fact of the matter is, you know, there 39 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: was a point where I think the Browns thought, maybe 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: we're not as together as a team needs to be, 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 3: So how do we solve that? And you solve it 42 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 3: by kind of being together? And here we are. We 43 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: are together here, and I know that was the big 44 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: point last year that you know, there was nowhere to go. 45 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: You were kind of with your teammates, and you were 46 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: with them on the practice field, and you were with them, 47 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 3: you know, for the rest of the night you lay 48 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 3: in shuffleboard with them and things like that. So I yeah, 49 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: I think it was a real bonding experience. 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what the players say. 51 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: And obviously Andrew Berry in his time with you know, 52 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: in other organizations, they would go we spent time obviously 53 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: with the Colts, with the Eagles, they would go away 54 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: for a period of time and kind of have that 55 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: unity together. And that's certainly what he was looking for here. 56 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: And you're exactly right. This was a team that whose 57 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: locker room now is as close knit as any I've seen. 58 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: And we were joking with we were in there having lunch, 59 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 2: you know, like this defensive line room. They're all back. 60 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: They all wanted to come back. They all wanted to 61 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: be together. 62 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 4: I guess what. 63 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: They sit together and have lunch. They're inseparable. It's like 64 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: best friends. And they're certainly enjoying it. 65 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're really and they have a whale of a 66 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 5: time with each other. 67 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: Yes, and that's pretty cool, and you know that will 68 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: play out everybody that will play out onto the field. 69 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 4: We certainly hope. 70 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: So now not only is this great bonding for them, 71 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: but you know a little peak behind the curtain. Jim, 72 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: myself and the Great Gibbet are sharing a cottage. So 73 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: I expect our performance of this radio season to be 74 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: even better than it's been in the past. 75 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: All the bonding. 76 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gonna could ever possibly be 77 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: more sick of me than he will be by next Friday. 78 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 6: So I pull in yesterday and you have to check 79 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 6: in at the guard check. We drove down and they 80 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 6: give it. They give me a pink placard for the 81 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 6: vehicle and I'm like, oh, different color this year. And 82 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 6: I pull up to the hotel and they're like, you're 83 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 6: not staying here. I go, oh, I just drove six hours. 84 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 6: I am staying. As a matter of fact, I am. 85 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 5: I'm here for a while. 86 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're not getting rid of me that easy. And 87 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 6: they're like, no, no, you're in a cottage. And I'm like, 88 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 6: excuse me, cottage? Yeah, I said, who's in the cottage 89 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 6: with me? And they're like, we don't know the answer 90 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 6: to that. I'm like, okay, we're gonna need to know 91 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 6: what that looks like. So when I checked in, they 92 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 6: were like mister Sugera and uh, mister Donovan, and I 93 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 6: was like oh, perfect. 94 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 5: We'll be great. 95 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: They give a fired off a text to me last 96 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: night and he's like, we're in a cottage, and I'm like, 97 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: let's go giddy up. 98 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: We have a gorgeous front porch. Beautiful at the cottage. Yeah, huh. 99 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 5: I mean it's like a movie. 100 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 6: I'll be out there. I'll be out there later on 101 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 6: this evening. 102 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, to kill a mockingbird or something along those lines. 103 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: I mean, it is a beautiful porch. It is, yeah, 104 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: big spacious. We're gonna have a lot of time out there. 105 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: We're gonna have a lot of time inside. We're able 106 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: to take a little bit of the Olympics. And then 107 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: every day, you know, in the early afternoon, we're gonna 108 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 2: get to come in and see this. 109 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns football team. 110 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: And you know, we haven't seen them on the field yet, 111 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: and the last time we did see them on the 112 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: field was back in early June for the mandatory mini camp. 113 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: But just kind of even being in there, there seems 114 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: to be an energy from the coaches to be back, 115 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: from the players to be backing around each other, and 116 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: that you know, there's a sense that some work needs 117 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: to be done, and you love to see your quarterback 118 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson fully cleared, walking in in a Bernie Cosey Yes, throw. 119 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 5: Up about that. Yeah, a Bernie k jersey, Yeah, number nineteen. 120 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 3: Well and yeah and looking well, I'm you know, wearing 121 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 3: it very very well. 122 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 5: There aren't many new faces. 123 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: No, I mean really, I mean they're they you know, 124 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: it's kind of like getting together first day of school. 125 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 5: But you know, you know everybody that's in your class. 126 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: I would say amongst the fifty three, not many new faces. 127 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: As is the way of the National Football League, when 128 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 4: you get. 129 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: Down the roster spots seventy five to ninety, you're gonna 130 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: have a little bit of of churn. 131 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 4: But you're exactly right. 132 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: The principal players on this team, and you know, you 133 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 2: and I were joking about it. You know, what's what's 134 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: at stake here right who the starting right tackle is 135 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: going to be, whether it will be dewand or and 136 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 2: we won't see Jack Conklin yet or Jed Wills yet. 137 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 2: They are both on the pup coming off of their 138 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: knee injuries to start camp, but as soon as they 139 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: get cleared they can resume practicing immediately. You know, who's 140 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: the third tight end going to be is if if 141 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: there is a third tight end, who's going to be 142 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: the sam linebacker for the six to eight snaps a game. 143 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 4: We have three linebackers on the field. 144 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: Because is known, and we played two of them a lot, right, Yeah, 145 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: And at times we play one when we play our 146 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: dime package with Rodney McLeod as the third safety out there. 147 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: So there's really it is a very interesting camp. I'd 148 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: said this on the show yesterday that this is the 149 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: quietest offseason I can remember. And the one thing that 150 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: was potentially looming out there right, the Amari Cooper situation 151 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: was resolved prior to getting. 152 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 5: Here, yeah, which I was very happy about. Yes. And 153 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 5: my daughter Meghan was alsoone. 154 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: She named her dog Cooper okay, and was fretting because, 155 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm gonna have to rename the dog. 156 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: What if he doesn't come in and sign. I said, oh, 157 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: come on, I'll pick up the phone. I'll call Andrew Berry. 158 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: We'll get this thing done. And they got it done 159 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: the other day. So Cooper is ready to go. That's great, 160 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: and it is and you don't need that, you know, Nathan. 161 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 3: That can linger. It can become bad, It can become 162 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: a real problem. If it lingers and goes in and 163 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: guys are here but they're not, you know, participating. 164 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: That's the new way of doing it right now, you 165 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: know they hold in. Sure, it's a hold in. We're 166 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: seeing Brandon that you do and then Kareem Hunt do 167 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: it a little bit a little bit, yes, yeah he did. 168 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so yeah, right, that's not what you want 169 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 4: to see. 170 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: And I saw something earlier today which I'm trying to 171 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: pull up right now from from spot Track about the 172 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: Amari Cooper extension and this and what that means for 173 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: Amari and what it means for the Cleveland Browns as well. 174 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: And really what they've done is freed up. 175 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: About fourteen fifteen million in cap space this year and 176 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: it forward to next year, so he will have a 177 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: big cap hit next year, but for this year they 178 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: were able to lower his cap number. They guaranteed his money, 179 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: and he's happy, they're happy, and it with obviously another 180 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: opportunity for them if they want to extend him beyond 181 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: this season. And so that'll be probably something that we 182 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: watch either in the offseason or as this season progresses. 183 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: With Amari Cooper, you know, the seven time pro bowler 184 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: who is your number one receiver coming off of a 185 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: career year. 186 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 4: So I think I'm with you very good that was 187 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: that was done. 188 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: And he is so vital I think to what they 189 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 3: want to do in the passing game. Yeah, and everybody 190 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: else you know, Judy Hopefully, you know, Elijah Moore, Ye Tillman, 191 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 3: these kind of guys, they can, you know, pick their point. 192 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: But I think, really, I mean, Cooper leads the way 193 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: when you need a play, That's who you go. 194 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: To, right absolutely, And I mean his resume speaks for itself, 195 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: the thousand yard seasons, the Pro Bowls. 196 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 4: This is from spot Track. 197 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: It says the Browns pushed and I quote, twenty two 198 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: point five million of Cooper's bonus cap out into twenty 199 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 2: twenty five, twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven, and twenty 200 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: twenty eight to lower his current capet. If they extend 201 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 2: him prior to March, those cappits can remain spread out. 202 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: But if the contract voids at a specified date, all 203 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: twenty two point five million of that cap hits the 204 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 2: browns twenty twenty five salary cap. So basically he's getting 205 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: the same money they're giving it to him guaranteed. They're 206 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: for cap purposes, spreading it out. But the accounting will 207 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: either come do this year, next year, or if they 208 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: extend him over the course of those extensions. But yay, Amari, Judy, 209 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: Elijah Tillman, you're talking about it, chief, you know, you 210 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: think about Amari first rounder, Judy first rounder, Elija Moore 211 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: was a second pick. I think of the second round. 212 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: You've got David Djoku first rounder. I mean our eleven 213 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 2: personnel grouping has a lot of elite talent, premium talent 214 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: for premium places. 215 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is today, for instance, in the next couple 216 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: of days, Yeah. 217 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 5: Kind of a ramp up. If you're going to ramp. 218 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: Up, We're not gonna see pads for a while. Jim, 219 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: this is gonna be I'll the Greenbrier. You know, they 220 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: say it's sleepy time down south. This is gonna be 221 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: a slow ease into any activity. It'll be some walkthroughs. 222 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 2: Then we'll maybe get some seven on sevens and and 223 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: by the end of next week then we'll probably see 224 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: some something that resembles football. 225 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: And then we get back home, and then we get 226 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 3: get back home to and you know, then our fans 227 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: will get a chance to see what we got. 228 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and it's game week, and it'll be game week, right. 229 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: So our first preseason game at home against Green Bay 230 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: is August the tenth, so two weeks from Saturday. 231 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's coming. And then you got green Bay. 232 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: You got joint practice right out of that, joint practices 233 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: with the Vikings, the Vikings game, and then we're all 234 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: looking forward to a trip to the Pacific Northwest for 235 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: the top season finale. 236 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 6: I'm going to try to throw fish at the fish market. 237 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 7: Really well, you know, I think I want to do that. 238 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 7: I think they allow that. Yeah, yeah, that's a bucket list. 239 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 7: I just think it's always cool. We always go to 240 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 7: the Pacific Northwest the day before this. Well, no, we're 241 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 7: gonna have a few days. 242 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: This is the uh you know, it's the year of 243 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: checking things off your bucket list. We will be home 244 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: by the time we open against Dallas. I think will 245 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: we be back home by then? 246 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. 247 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: Well, now, last season, last season, I remember talking with 248 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 3: you about this during the preseason last year. But last 249 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: season there was a lot of you know, there was 250 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 3: the practices in Philly, yep. It was coming here, yep, 251 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 3: and we had to go to Kansas City right to play. 252 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 5: We were on the road. You guys run the road, 253 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 5: but we were on the road awful lot. 254 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so it'll be nice this year because when 255 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: we get back, you're basically home until we leave for Seattle, 256 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: which is great. Then you'll come back from that, you'll 257 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: be home again through the holiday weekend, and then you 258 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: open at home as we all know, against the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, 259 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: last year it was well, and you think about carry 260 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: it into the season. Then you have a week in 261 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: Los Angeles. I mean we were gone for Big. 262 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 5: Chunks, Denver Rams deal. Yes, yeah, yes, the coming of 263 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 5: Joe Flackham. 264 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely, So you went to UCLA, he went out to 265 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: poly Pavilion or you know outside of there, right outside 266 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: of Polyphilly. 267 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 5: We're right next to it. 268 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: And then I remember Colin I think it was maybe 269 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: I was doing talk to Bow and I was like, 270 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 2: Flacos and shit, I'm like, this guy looks unbelievable. I 271 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: remember I asked a couple of the coaches, I'm like, 272 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: am I seeing this right? And they're like, oh, yeah, 273 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: this is this is the guy. And Flaco Fever was 274 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: born on that trip, So no doubt and It's amazing 275 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: as you talked about how much stay is the same, 276 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: but there have been some changes. 277 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: You mentioned the quarterback position. 278 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 2: There back Deshaun Watson obviously healthy back DTR, but in 279 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: comes Jameis Winston and becomes Snoop Huntley. Both of them 280 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: have been Pro Bowl quarterbacks in this league. Jamis with 281 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 2: Tampa and New Orleans and then obviously Huntley, who spent. 282 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: His career with Baltimore. So that'll be interesting. 283 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 2: How do you work four guys in because the one 284 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 2: with the least experienced DTR is probably the one you 285 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: want to get some reps to. 286 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, remember are we here in Cleveland. 287 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: We have seen Huntley a couple of times as a 288 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: Raven quarterback, and I was mentioning this uh this morning 289 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 3: with Nathan. 290 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,599 Speaker 5: There was one time where he came very close to 291 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 5: beating us. 292 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 3: We had a big lead in that game and didn't 293 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: recover the on side kick at the end of the game, 294 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: and you know, got a big sack. 295 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 5: I think Miles. 296 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: Recovery, Miles Garrett got a big sack right at the 297 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 3: end of the game or Clowney and we ended up 298 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: kind of surviving that game. 299 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 5: I think Miles had a scoop and scoring that game 300 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 5: for a touchdown. 301 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 4: That was the scooping score for Miles Garrett. You're right, 302 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 4: that was. 303 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 8: Yes. 304 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: I still whenever I hear we don't recover the on 305 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: side kick, I just think about the Jets game and 306 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco. We've had too many mentions on it. Oh Man, 307 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: that was nightmarish, to say the very very least. But yeah, 308 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: you've got now a lot of experience in that quarterback room. 309 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: You've got guys who have been together before. And I 310 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: think Jameis Winston and I'm excited to see him out here. 311 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: I'm excited to get hear him out here because you 312 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 2: will hear him. He is a guy that can understand. 313 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: I think some of the trials and tribulations to Sean 314 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: went through. Was a big time college quarterback, number one overall, 315 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: pick led the league in passing a few years ago 316 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: with over five thousand yards, So he gets it. And 317 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: I remember when he first interviewed him, Jimmy, he said, 318 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: I'm here to help serve Deshaun Watson and help him 319 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: be the best that he can be. And I thought 320 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: that was such a positive attitude, but also a guy 321 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: who certainly has a lot of talent in his own right. 322 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: Very pleasant guy, very pleasant, very very happy guy, your energy, 323 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 3: h spreading a message that I think is interesting to 324 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: you know, to hear yea and will be interesting here. 325 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: And I don't know he he just seems like he 326 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: has an awful lot of fun. 327 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 4: He has a ton of fun. 328 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: And you talk to the guys here and it's basically 329 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: Jamis is always on. 330 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 4: He is always having a good time. 331 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they love being around him, and so those 332 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: are kind one of the things what is cool about 333 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: this experience and this year, you know there, I don't 334 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: think they're bringing a lot of people in. It is 335 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: going to be just about the team, about the people 336 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: here on the staff that are able to be here, 337 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: some of the media that'll be here. But you really 338 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: get a chance to see the guys. You run into 339 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: them in the hotel, you get to talk to them 340 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: out here. You're just all kind of around each other. 341 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: You get a feel for the personalities and you know, 342 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: Jamis and a guy like Jordan Hicks, some of the 343 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: new players that are in roles that are more important 344 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: perhaps than you know some others. Backup quarterback obviously a 345 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: very important role. And then now we're starting Mike linebacker, 346 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: who's really the quarterback of the defense. You really get 347 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: a sense of these guys and see how they fit 348 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: in and get to feel that as we're I mean 349 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: as close as you can be to these fields too. 350 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: It's always that will be an interesting fit on that defense. 351 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was so good for so many games 352 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: last year, and you just wonder, how can it improve? Yeah, 353 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: and can somebody come in here and really help it 354 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 3: and help it improve? And you hope that Hicks, you know, 355 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: can be that kind of a player. He he has 356 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: that kind of lineage I think, Oh yeah, and he's 357 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 3: a star. 358 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: He's a guy that people in the state of Ohio 359 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: Lakota West are familiar with for years and years and years. 360 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: I was talking to somebody in there, like, yeah, I've 361 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: hear Jordan Hicks name since I was in high school. 362 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: Five straight seasons with more than one hundred tackles, Jim, 363 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: he had one hundred and fifty and nineteen, one hundred 364 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: and eighteen and twenty one, hundred and sixteen and twenty one, 365 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty nine and twenty two, and then 366 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: last year in thirteen games, he had one hundred and seven. 367 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 4: He's a guy who's very good in coverage. 368 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: He's got over the last five seasons six interceptions in 369 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: the league. He's got twenty passes defense the last three 370 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: years he's been at captain. 371 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: He's played for Jim. 372 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: Schwartz in Philadelphia, very important on that Super Bowl team 373 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen. So the Browns are very excited about 374 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: being able to get him. And I think that he 375 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: gives what We haven't had a five straight hundred tackle linebacker. 376 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: Probably the last time we had a guy who had 377 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: a couple in a row would have probably been Christian Kirksey. 378 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: But he brings that kind of leadership even going back 379 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: for exactly but it's been a while since we've had 380 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 2: a mic linebacker with that kind of pedigree all three downs, 381 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: can play the run, can play the pass, and can 382 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: get everybody cleaned up and lined up. 383 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the fact that he played for Jim, you know, yes, 384 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 3: perfect fit getting in there. You know what you're doing, 385 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: and you know the deal and and and that's kind 386 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: of really helped things out. It will doubt accelerate things, 387 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: I think right away. I think and that's very very important. 388 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: I can say, very impressive, very charismatic, clearly a natural 389 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: leader as well. In my time around him and now 390 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: that linebacker room, we talked about a lot of familiar faces. 391 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: That's the one room where he really had a few 392 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: familiar faces and guys that you and I enjoyed getting 393 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 2: to know, enjoyed talking to, always were great whenever you 394 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 2: got a chance to interview them or be around them. 395 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: And that's Anthony Walker and Sioni Taki. And you hate 396 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: to lose guys like that. That's the nature of the league. 397 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: Thought Walker Nathan is that he lost so much time, 398 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 3: you know, with injury, and he wanted to be such 399 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 3: a leader. 400 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 5: Here he was and he was a leader, and that's 401 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 5: a very difficult thing to do when you're injured. 402 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but Takikaki was just a great, great player, great kid, 403 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: great kid would. 404 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 5: Run through and did he would run through a wall 405 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 5: for you, he would, and he did. 406 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 3: And there were times where he made very very big 407 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: plays at very big moments in you in very very 408 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: critical points in games. 409 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 410 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: So there those are the two that are out and 411 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: then into that room Jordan Hicks and then Devin Bush, 412 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: former first round pick of the Pittsburgh Steelers out of 413 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: the University of Michigan, and he unfortunately suffered a big 414 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 2: knee injury against US actually back in twenty twenty. And 415 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 2: you know, he was a one hundred tackle guy his 416 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: rookie year, not the biggest linebacker. But in this scheme, 417 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: it's more about speed and ability to flow the ball, 418 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 2: and he certainly can do. 419 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. I remember he did get hurt against I. 420 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: Reflect back on in a very ugly game for the 421 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. That was what I'm sure you were happy 422 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: to be, yeah, in Pittsburgh for I was. I was 423 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 2: there not pleased. Yeah, absolutely, Well. 424 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 5: You know, here we go, and this is gonna be 425 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 5: a lot of fun. It really is. They are really dialed. 426 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: In, yes on what they did last year and what 427 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: they want to do this year. And I think that's 428 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 3: very very important. I don't get the impression at all 429 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 3: that they're resting on Laurels or on Hey we went 430 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: eleven and five, eleven and six, I know, but that 431 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 3: last one was a throwaway. 432 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 5: But the taste of that playoff game I think is 433 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: really in there. You know it Lingers system right now. 434 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a team that you know, when you 435 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: talk to them, you hear unfinished business we have. We 436 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: felt like coming out of that Baltimore game that we 437 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: were on a trajectory that could have led to, you know, 438 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: football immortality, right, winning the division, winning the AFC, winning 439 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. They felt that they could do that, 440 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: and then by that following Wednesday, it was ripped away 441 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 2: in the sense that Deshaun Watson was out for the year, 442 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: and yet this team rallied, and so what they want 443 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: is an opportunity to all be together again and hopefully 444 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: stay healthy. And I mean it's funny we were talking 445 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: what are we here to really see? The answer is 446 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: not much. There aren't a lot of position battles. There 447 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: are a lot of things up for grabs. You want 448 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: to see it look good, But this is a team 449 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: that's going to be all about what happens starting against 450 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys and hopefully into February, because it's all 451 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 2: there anybody with any eyes you look it on paper, 452 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: this team's got everything that you need to win a 453 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. 454 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think really what it comes down to now 455 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 3: is each and every game, there will be a point 456 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: of the game where the game is sitting right out 457 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: there on the table, and are you going to be 458 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 3: able to take it. 459 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 5: Yep. The teams that are able to do that are. 460 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 3: The ones that go into January and then maybe play 461 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 3: in February, no doubt about it. Kansas City, San Francisco, 462 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 3: New England for all of those years. 463 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 5: And I think we are in that class right now. 464 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 3: There it is, and you know, the game is sitting 465 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 3: there and can we go get that football game on 466 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 3: that particular day. 467 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 5: And I think that's that's where we are. 468 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, that will be the answer that one thing we 469 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: will not be seeing or I should say maybe seven 470 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: guys we will not be seeing at least on day 471 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: one today. And wanted to get your actions on the 472 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 2: non football injury Listen nahem hinz As he still comes 473 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 2: back from that devastating the injury that cost him all 474 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three. And then Greg Newsom added to 475 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: that with a hamstring injury, which when you're NFI that 476 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: means it occurred away from the Cleveland Browns and I 477 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: guess in training to get ready for training camp. He 478 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: got a hammy better now than later, you know what 479 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: you got in Greg Newsom coming off of, you know, 480 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: one of the best years of his young career. A 481 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: couple interceptions of course, that big pick six against the Ravens. 482 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: But you'll want to see him out here. And so 483 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: now what will be interesting is does cam Mitchell slide 484 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: into that nickel spot right away? Who gets some looks 485 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: in that nickel spot while Greg is is recovering. 486 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: It'll played very well, oh boy, and opportunities give it 487 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 3: to him. Last year that Bears game when he beat 488 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 3: the Bears. Yeah, when he came up with that big 489 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 3: stop of Justin Fields. I mean that was a really 490 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 3: fourth and one that it yeah, fourth about an inch 491 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: and he made that play. Greg is not here, yeah, 492 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 3: and hopefully he'll get better, like you've said, better now 493 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 3: than deeper into the preseason where all of a sudden 494 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 3: you're losing a month of the regular season. 495 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely, y gonna get these things and get him right, 496 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: and don't feel a need to rush back. You want 497 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: Greg Newsom to get all the reps that he can. 498 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 2: But you know, you kind of remember onan Thornhill with 499 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 2: that calf, and yeah, it just ended up lingering with 500 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: him for the entirety of the season. On the physically 501 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: unable to perform lists, You've got the guys coming back 502 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: from injuries. Jack Conklin jed Will's Nick Chubb, also Thered 503 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: Anthony Bell with a shin and then Dalvin Tomlinson with 504 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: a knee injury. And so this was one maybe we 505 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 2: weren't expecting. But he's a veteran. That room is full 506 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: of veterans, and I think that that'll be just fine. 507 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: But again, all these guys are still on the active roster, 508 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 2: and the second that they get cleared, they are able 509 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: to resume practice. 510 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 4: It's not like they have to miss any set piece 511 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 4: of time. 512 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 2: All right, Gibbet, before we take a break, I see 513 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: a note on here about Tequila Fela's room situation. 514 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 4: What what happened? 515 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 5: I don't know where he is. Could you brief me 516 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 5: on the Tequila Fila? 517 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 6: So yesterday was Tequila Fela's twenty fourth birthday. That's how 518 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 6: you start off, ye, sitting in the car with me 519 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 6: for six hours. I'm texting him right out of Is 520 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 6: that a boring drive? Not when you have bodies with you, 521 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 6: when you don't have bodies with you, Yes, actually going down. 522 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 5: It's fine. 523 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 6: It's next Friday when I'm driving home and you're like, well, okay, 524 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 6: how quick can I get through the State of West Virginia. 525 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 5: How can I get through the mountains? 526 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 8: Shoot? 527 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 5: Where is this stuff? Uh? 528 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 6: So we get here now, Fila last year state, We've 529 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 6: got another hotel. We have people that are staying in 530 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 6: two different hotels. Yeah, so Fila texting him right now. 531 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 6: So Feli's first experience of the Greenbrier itself, Felix. Felix 532 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 6: gets here and Connor and I drove down. The three 533 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 6: of us all are together. Felix sends us a text 534 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 6: like we get into our rooms. I found out, I 535 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 6: find out I'm in a cottage, pleasant surprise. 536 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 4: And this is in this is in the hotel. 537 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 8: Yeah. 538 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 6: Connor is like great, I've never been here because Connor 539 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 6: didn't come last year. Yeah, so he's all excited. Felix like, hey, 540 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 6: got a slight problem. And he sends us a picture 541 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 6: and he's like, I don't have a bed. And he 542 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 6: sends us the picture of the room. Sure enough, there's 543 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 6: there's no bed. 544 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 5: What wow? 545 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 6: And I'm like, well, Peel is there like another like 546 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 6: how many doors are in your because sometimes the door 547 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 6: is part of the whole. 548 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 5: Came here, came here, Hey, happy birthday. Don't put that 549 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 5: on over there right right there? 550 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 4: Feeling Yeah, right there. 551 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 5: And get close. Twenty four. 552 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I don't even want to talk about what 553 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 6: I was doing at twenty four. It wasn't being responsible 554 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 6: that you're living. 555 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 4: You're living at the headset? 556 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, how about it? 557 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 9: Is this your on air debut? I think so with 558 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 9: the headset and the mic and everything, you got to 559 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 9: be twenty four? 560 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 5: You have your union card? Yea, yeah? I need one? 561 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 5: All right. 562 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 6: So I've set up the scene, Felix. You sent us 563 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 6: a text with a picture, and there's no bedroom. 564 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 5: There's no bed. 565 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I'm setting on my PlayStation because that's obviously 566 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 9: the first thing that I got to get. 567 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 5: Set up in college football. Zing. 568 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, So I start looking around. 569 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 5: There's no bed in the room. 570 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 9: The lady at the front desk said, I'm supposed to 571 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 9: have a king size. 572 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 4: Mattress here, and so what's is there just a blank 573 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 4: space in the room where it should be. 574 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 9: So it's it's a couch, a little table, coffee table, 575 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 9: two chairs, and then like a dining table. And I'm 576 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 9: just like like, I'm like, there's got to be a 577 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 9: bed because every late it's a hotel room. It's a 578 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 9: hotel room, like at least give me a twin, I 579 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 9: don't need a or a yes. Well, and then I 580 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 9: looked at the couch and it's a pull out couch. 581 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 9: So I'm like, oh god, they want me to sleep 582 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 9: on this pull out couch for ten days. 583 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 8: No. 584 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 9: So I call the concierge and he goes, oh, yeah, 585 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 9: you're you're definitely supposed to have a bed in your room. 586 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, And they go to the she he sends 587 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 4: me to the uh front desk. 588 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 9: UH connects me to the front desk and she goes, 589 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 9: hold on one second, puts me on hold for five minutes. 590 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 5: She goes, did you use the key to get in 591 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 5: your room? 592 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 6: I said, yes, I'm in. 593 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 4: I'm in the room of the room. 594 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 9: I'm in the room and there's no bed in here. 595 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 9: She and I was like, she was like, use the 596 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 9: key to get into the other side of the room. 597 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 9: I was like, it's it's a lock and key. 598 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,239 Speaker 5: Like I don't. I don't have a key. So uh. 599 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 9: She was like, okay, we'll send up somebody up right 600 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 9: away to you know, open it up for you. Thirty 601 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 9: minutes later, we're trying to go to dinner at seven thirty. 602 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 9: Thirty minutes later, it's seven forty five. I'm sitting I'm 603 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 9: playing Ohio State Michigan. 604 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 5: I'm at halftime. 605 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 6: I'm out fifteen to fourteen. 606 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 5: I went for two. I went for two and uh, 607 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 5: this this guy unlocks the door. He goes, oh, I 608 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 5: didn't know somebody was in here. I said, I called, 609 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 5: I called, You're you're here to help me? 610 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 4: Yes, right, hopefully, And he was like, oh, well, I 611 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 4: got the room unlocked for you. 612 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 5: I said, well, that's that's great. 613 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 9: So I've got a master bed and there's three three 614 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 9: toilets in the seat in the suite. 615 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 5: I don't need three toilets, but there's three. You have 616 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 5: a room. Yeah, I think it's it's sweet. It's like 617 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 5: a master suite. I'm I'm just hoping that. 618 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 9: I'm just hoping that I don't get somebody else with 619 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 9: the same room number as me and I have to 620 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 9: share with somebody else. 621 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 4: But we'll still think. I don't think we'll find out 622 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 4: once we get back to the I like that, but 623 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 4: a birthday surprise. He gets a sweet Yeah, guys, you 624 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 4: deserve it. 625 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I deserve thank you. 626 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. I love it. Yes, well, guys, thank 627 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 4: you for coming on. 628 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 6: Hey, the show yeah, yeah, feelings texting us and I'm like, 629 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 6: we haven't been here for two hours and we already 630 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 6: have a problem. 631 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 5: I mean, Jerry, yeah, yeah, we're all sat right right. 632 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 4: Well, we'll awesome feeling equals ratings. 633 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: By the way, Connor, we got to give Connor with 634 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: a K special shout out. 635 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 4: We're on the air. 636 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: We got the cameras work and he was able to 637 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: do this all so bravo and you're the star and 638 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 2: he got me an on off cough switch in the studio. 639 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: So we're we're getting closer to me being legit. Good 640 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: nomod for you, all right, So we're for the phenomenal 641 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: for me. We are off and running here. The Browns 642 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: will take the field in just about eighty minutes from 643 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: now as they get ready to kick off twenty twenty 644 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 2: four training camp here at the Green Brier. Nathan Sura, 645 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: Jim Donovan will be back when we come back, we'll 646 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: go around the league still to come on this show 647 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: as well. We'll talk a little bit more about training camp, 648 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: what we're looking forward to seeing Keys to Success in 649 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four as well, and then open up that mailbag. 650 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: Mailbag Thursday, presented by Cross Country Mortgage, the official mortgage 651 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: partner of the Cleveland Browns, So get your questions in 652 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: using the hashtag ask CBD. Nathan Zigura, the Voice of 653 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: the Browns, Jim Donovan, Cleveland Browns Daily Live from the 654 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: Greenbrier on eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 655 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Ballely Bed Now 656 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 657 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to Cleveland Brown's Day. Nathan Segura 658 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: and the voice of your Cleveland Browns Jim Donovan, and 659 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: we are live at the Greenbrier. People starting to mill 660 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: around bring things out as they get ready for the 661 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 2: first practice of the Cleveland Browns twenty twenty four training camp, 662 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: which will take place just about two fifty here today. 663 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: Before we go around the league, though, I have a question. 664 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: Does your furry friend have what it takes to beat 665 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: out the competition? 666 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 4: Well? 667 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: If so, enter the Dog Dash Sweepstakes presented by Milkbone 668 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: for a chance to have your pup compete in the 669 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: annual halftime dog races. Visit Cleveland Browns dot com slash 670 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: Milkbone to enter and check out more from Milkbone at 671 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: your local grocery or pet supplies store. Nathanzigura, the voice 672 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: of the Browns, Jim Donovan. We're gonna go around the 673 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 2: league now some of the headlines as other teams are 674 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 2: in there camps, and we'll start with the Steelers. Justin 675 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: Fields took the first team reps for the Steelers today. 676 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson dealing with a calf issue, and apparently he's 677 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: throwing a couple of very nice deep balls that are 678 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 2: making the rounds on social media, and people are already 679 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: calling in Pittsburgh for a quarterback competition. 680 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 4: Give Fields a chance. 681 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: You know, I like him, I like walking him. I 682 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: liked him at Ohio State. I thought I liked him 683 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 3: against us. Yeah, I thought he played very well that day. 684 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 3: I was my heart was in my throat on the 685 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 3: last throw of the day. Oh my god, quite frankly, 686 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: Oh my god. It should have been caught, no doubt 687 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 3: about it. 688 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 5: But I like him. I don't know, what do you think? 689 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 5: I mean? When does that? When does he get his You. 690 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 4: Know, here's here's what I'll say. Proper time, his proper time, 691 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 4: Here's what I'll say. 692 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: We were doing Brown's Daily Live on I want to 693 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: say a Friday when Kenny Pickett was traded, and he 694 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 2: was traded during one to three. He was literally traded 695 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: at two fifty and I said, as soon as that happened, 696 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 2: I go, oh, great Fields is going to be a Steeler. 697 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 4: That's that was literally that was my on air reaction. 698 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 2: And by the time we did a show on Monday, 699 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: Justin Fields was in fact the Steeler and was acquired 700 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: for nothing. This is a first round picks as a 701 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: guy who got better in each of the seasons he 702 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: was in the league. He showed flashes of greatness. You know, 703 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: he's electric with his legs, not with a not in 704 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: a great offense, No, not in a great offense. 705 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 4: And what was crazy about it is that nobody really 706 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 4: offered around the league anything for him. And I have 707 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 4: asked a lot. 708 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: Of people and people that would be at the top 709 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: of you know, decision making trees for various teams, and 710 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: the knock on him and the reason that for example, 711 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: his OC from Chicago last year's now the OC for 712 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: the Raiders right didn't want him, wanted Gardner Minshew and said, 713 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: is that when they scheme something up for him, the 714 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: layups aren't layups. He doesn't necessarily they could have the 715 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: perfect call against perfect and he just doesn't see what 716 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: he should be seeing to deliver the football, and it 717 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: was maddening to them. Could he make plays out of structure? Absolutely, 718 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: and at times instructure was he great? I think he 719 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: throws a great deep ball, absolutely, But it was that 720 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: there's clearly something because I would think that that would 721 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: be somebody that you would take. The Raiders would be 722 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: a perfect team to take a shot on him. 723 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 5: Right. Well, what always draws me him to me rather 724 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 5: is the athletic ability. 725 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 3: Oh my god, the athletic ability hos agility to run 726 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 3: and extend to play is big time. 727 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 5: I mean he is really an exceptional athlete. I mean 728 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 5: just a great athlete. 729 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: So he's been in the league three years. Yeah, his 730 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: completion percentage went up every single year, His yards went 731 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: up every single year, his touchdown to interception ratio went 732 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: up every single year, his quarterback rating went up every 733 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 2: single year. And then you add into the running ability, 734 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: which you were talking about. Two years ago he ran 735 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: for eleven hundred and forty three yards and eight touchdowns 736 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: average seven point one yards of carry last year a 737 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: little bit less, but still six hundred and fifty seven yards, 738 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: four touchdowns, five point three yards of carry. He is 739 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: a dynamic athlete. He's not small by any stretch of imagination, 740 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: six three two and thirty pounds. I mean he's built, slid, 741 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 2: he's got a good arm. I hate that he is 742 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 2: a Pittsburgh Steeler. I absolutely hate it. 743 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 5: Down the road. Is he the guy? Is he the 744 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 5: guy in Pittsburgh? 745 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: I think it's that's why he has to play at 746 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 2: some point, because you need to know whether or not 747 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 2: you're picking up that fifth year option. That fifty your 748 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: option is a big chunk of guaranteed money if you 749 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 2: do decide to pick it up. So I think he's 750 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: going to have to play, and quite frankly, I don't 751 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 2: like it. I think that he I still like Justin 752 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 2: Fields a lot. And maybe I'm in the minority, and 753 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 2: I know NFL evaluators don't feel about him the way 754 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: that you know I do, or you do or Bo does. 755 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 4: Because Bow and I have. 756 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 2: Talked about this, We're like, I don't get it, but 757 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: that's kind of how he's seen right now around the 758 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 2: league and the Steelers. 759 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you take a shot on it? I mean, 760 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 4: it's a it's no risk at all. 761 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 3: A very easy thing to do. Yeah, just to you know, 762 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 3: give him a look, give him a good hard look 763 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 3: for sure. Let him get in your you know, in 764 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 3: your company, in your locker room. 765 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, and see how it all works. 766 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: And he's a very magnetic and charismatic and and we 767 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: know as good as Russell Wilson has been that he's 768 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 2: a he's a unique bird, to say the very least. 769 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: And it's been you know, polarizing, and how he's been 770 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 2: received in some of his locker rooms. You know, you 771 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 2: wonder how that plays Nathan. 772 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 3: I don't think we not that we have played him 773 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 3: a lot, Okay, I don't think we have ever beaten 774 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson. 775 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 2: When he was with Seattle. I know they smoked us 776 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: in Seattle and the game started by the job beat 777 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 2: He beat us here and Freddy's here when we were 778 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 2: up big at the half and he had a huge 779 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 2: comeback against us. 780 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 4: And then obviously in death or last year. 781 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think we've ever I'll look if it's 782 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 2: more than those three games, I don't think we've ever 783 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 2: beaten that. 784 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 4: Well, we'll have to change. 785 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 5: It's been a real problem. 786 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go. We'll go ahead and change that. 787 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 5: This is not a persistent one. 788 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 3: But I mean it's been a problem that we have 789 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 3: not been able to kind of really master him when 790 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 3: he has played against us. 791 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: So we which is not a lot by the way, 792 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 2: we had it right. We had the three games right. 793 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 2: So two thousand and fifteen in Seattle, they win thirty 794 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 2: to thirteen. He goes twenty one to thirty for two 795 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 2: forty nine, three touchdowns, no interceptions. Uh, twenty nineteen Browns 796 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 2: were up big in that one. He leads them to 797 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: a thirty two to twenty eight come behind win two 798 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 2: hundred ninety five yards, two touchdowns, rating of one seventeen. 799 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 2: And then last year they win twenty nine to twelve. 800 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: Throws for one thirty four at a touchdown. So his 801 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 2: career against the Browns three and zero, six hundred and 802 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: seventy eight yards, sixty seven percent completion, six touchdowns, no picks, 803 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: rating of one fifteen. 804 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, so we The only thing I remember from twenty 805 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 6: fifteen is we had a Starbucks barista. 806 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 5: In ourf and one of the best. 807 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 6: Ziger and Casey had skintles thrown at. 808 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 4: Them, pelted for three hours, pelted was skinned. 809 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 6: And I was still picking skills out of Casey's coat, 810 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 6: like on the flight home. 811 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 2: And I remember Doug Baldwin went nuts in that game 812 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 2: he had that was like a no contest. 813 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 4: No, that was we were actually up seven nothing. I 814 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 4: didn't remember that. 815 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 3: Oh, No, play Gear Tohnny Manziel played in that game. 816 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 3: You're exactly right. I remember that. 817 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 4: And then it was twenty seven to ten soon thereafter. 818 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, and we'll be right good, he'll be right, We'll 819 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 5: be right back. 820 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark Man, we got I remember getting Pelta with 821 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 2: skills and Marshaw Lynch didn't even play that game. Christine 822 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 2: Michael was the was the starting running back for them. Yeah, 823 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 2: big play Gear had a touchdown. He was our leading 824 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 2: receiver in that game. Actually a leader receive in the 825 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 2: game was Duke Johnson. Travis Coons was still kicking the 826 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 2: ball for the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, man, Yeah, Well I 827 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 2: was a big Dwayne bow game. Three catches, twenty two catches, 828 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 2: twenty two yards. Is that's the only Dwayne that might 829 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 2: have been. That might have been his biggest game that year. 830 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 5: That got him his varsity letter, that did Yeah, he 831 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 5: got his letter. 832 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 6: It was the first player out here. We got players out. 833 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 5: Players out here. K K York, Yeah, kay York out there. 834 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 2: And then we've got somebody in the bucket hat that 835 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 2: I have not been able to identify yet, but yeah, 836 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 2: Kad York is out here. 837 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 3: Well you know who is out here? While we were 838 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 3: all eating lunch, Miles Garrett his leg work. Yeah, back 839 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 3: and back and forth, the loveliness of the long distance runner. 840 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 4: Yes, he was going back and forth. And how about 841 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 4: you mentioned Kad York here? 842 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 2: And obviously Dustin Hopkins gets the contract extension, which we're 843 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 2: all very excited about how well he played. But you know, 844 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 2: it was a year ago we were here and kid 845 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 2: York was the kicker of the Cleveland Browns, and it weren't. 846 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 2: If it weren't for what we would call a difficult preseason, 847 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 2: to say the least, Dustin Hopkins isn't here. 848 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 3: I would say this, Nathan, that you and I in 849 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 3: that booth in really down in Canton. It continued in Cleveland, Philadelphia, 850 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 3: and then the final game against Kansas City. If we 851 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 3: could have willed that ball through those upright, huh, I mean, 852 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 3: come on, I mean really, I mean we were on 853 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 3: our knees. 854 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 4: Give your kid, some confidence, get it through. You can 855 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 4: do it. 856 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 3: You could kick the ball to Arkansas, y, you know, 857 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 3: I mean really, I mean it was it was really 858 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 3: it was. 859 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 5: It was tough to watch. 860 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 2: It was very watch And you know what, I've got 861 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 2: talked since he's come back and certainly happened. He's in 862 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 2: a good He's definitely in a good frame of mind. 863 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 2: He knows that this is an organization that believes in him. 864 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 2: That's why he was drafted where he was. But I 865 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 2: think that, you know, Dustin Hopkins is a guy that 866 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 2: feels like a great role model and leader and mentor 867 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 2: for him because Dustin Hopkins is very secure and obviously 868 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 2: what he can do, but he kind of has that 869 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 2: kind gregarious personnel. 870 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 4: I remember when kde was drafted, he really didn't have 871 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 4: a veteran here to work with. It was like, you're 872 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 4: you're the guy, You're right. 873 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 2: He drafted yet and he makes a fifty eight yarder 874 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 2: for the win in Carolina in his first ever game. 875 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 4: He's a cold hero. He was a phenom. Yeah, remember 876 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 4: in the. 877 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 3: Pre season games he would go out and warm up 878 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 3: from seventy and people were like, you know. 879 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 5: YouTube in it and putting it on you know, TikTok 880 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 5: or whatever, you know. I don't know those. 881 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 4: It was. It was game oh man. It was just 882 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 4: talking about his yes. 883 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 6: Every time he came out. 884 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 5: It was like, okay, it's going from seventy yards down. 885 00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 5: Can he get it there? 886 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 2: You know, it was unbelieve I remember the preseason game 887 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: against the Bears and he put one in from seventy 888 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 2: right in front of Cairo Santos, who is now, oh yeah, 889 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 2: now the Bears kicker, and I think Cayro Santos has 890 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 2: been very, very good. 891 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 4: Actually, it was funny. 892 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 2: Mike Rabel was on part in my take and he 893 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 2: was talking about the kicker issues that he had, and 894 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 2: one of them was Santos. And Santos missed four in 895 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 2: one game with Tennessee in twenty nineteen. They cut him 896 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 2: and then he goes He basically's gone to Chicago and 897 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,720 Speaker 2: hasn't missed a kick since I think he's one thirteen. 898 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 4: He's made ninety one percent of his kicks since he's 899 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 4: become a Bear. 900 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 2: So Rabel's talking about but I remember he hit that 901 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 2: seventy yarder and Santos was like, what the heck and 902 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 2: then tried a sixty. 903 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 4: Yarder and came up like five yards short man. 904 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 3: Remember in his head. Yeah, there was a Saturday night game. Yeah, 905 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 3: at the at Brown Stadium. 906 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 4: Absolutely, but it is good to see. It's good to 907 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 4: see K back. 908 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: And like I said, hopefully he with Dustin Hopkins and 909 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 2: Bjorquez and Hewlett, that consistency of that battery. Hopefully that 910 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 2: can be a good thing for him as he continues 911 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 2: to develop up. 912 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 5: Hopkins. 913 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 3: Oh so so good, so good, so good, I mean, 914 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 3: And he arrived just before the opener, right for. 915 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 2: A seventh round pick. Yeah, he's gonna get cut by 916 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 2: the Charger. Here we go, and we gave him a 917 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 2: seventh round pick. 918 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 3: And at the time he needed him, we needed him, 919 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 3: Oh my god, day because nobody could score a touchdown. 920 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 5: So, I mean, he was amazing that day. He was automatic. 921 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 2: We don't beat the Colts without him, we don't beat 922 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 2: the Steelers. The second time with him, we don't beat 923 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 2: the Ravens. Was a game winner. He goes eight for 924 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 2: eight from fifty plus on the season. Yeah, and he 925 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 2: never missed inside of forty He was ten for thirteen 926 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 2: from forty to forty nine. But he was just so good, 927 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 2: and that to me is so awesome, and I love 928 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 2: that he's back, and good for him and good for 929 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 2: his family that they got that opportunity to sign that 930 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 2: contract that'll keep him here. And that might be Dustin 931 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 2: Hopkins actually out there with Cade York right now. He's 932 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 2: got a nice he's got a hat like yours on there. 933 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 2: He's got the big wide kind of sun hat. 934 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 935 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 4: I like it, Yeah, I like it. 936 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 2: Other news from around the National Football League, Kirk Cousins 937 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 2: has been medically cleared from his torn achilles and will 938 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 2: not start training camp on the pup list. He will 939 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,760 Speaker 2: start training camp as the starting quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons. 940 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 2: And I'm sure we've gotten at least one chance to 941 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 2: talk about it. You give a guy one hundred million 942 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 2: dollars guaranteed over the first two years. You then use 943 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 2: the eighth pick in the draft to draft the quarterback 944 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 2: of the future, who, by the way, is old coming 945 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 2: out of college, not Brandon whieden Old, but is older 946 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 2: coming out of college and was oft injured throughout his 947 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 2: college career. And you have the eighth pick in the draft, 948 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 2: and in two years ago you draft a running back 949 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 2: who was very good. Don't get me wrong, but you 950 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 2: draft a running back and then you draft a backup quarterback. 951 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins gotta be saying, what in the world is 952 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 4: going on? 953 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 3: And I understand all of that, but can anybody get 954 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 3: money like Kirk Cousins? 955 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 4: Oh baby, I mean. 956 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,720 Speaker 3: All the way through his career and it all started 957 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 3: against the Browns as a Redskin. Yeah yeah, I mean 958 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,399 Speaker 3: he had a big, big game for RGE. He came 959 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 3: in and all they did was run the tight end 960 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 3: bootleg all afternoon long, and the Browns could not stop 961 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 3: it all afternoon and that kind of launched him and 962 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 3: he gets amazing contract. 963 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 4: That was in Cleveland, Remember that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I 964 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 4: remember that. 965 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 3: You know, had a great game that game, chasing London Fletcher. 966 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 3: You know, you know what else happening His London's family 967 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 3: got into a little. 968 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,439 Speaker 5: Skirmish, a little skirmish up in the crowd. Yeah that day. Really, yeah, 969 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 5: I do remember that. I remember that. 970 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was That was twenty twelve. 971 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 6: Unfortunately, in the past, this franchises put some people, that 972 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 6: made some people some money and put some people in 973 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame, no doubt, I think, I really 974 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,280 Speaker 6: I believe. 975 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 5: That kind of launched them to make the playoffs. 976 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, you know they made it that year, 977 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 2: right three. And then he came back, yeah right, exactly. 978 00:43:59,760 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 979 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 2: And then in sixteen in Washington, he beat us thirty 980 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 2: one to twenty. Started that game. That was the year 981 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 2: where we had a Cody Parky I think just came 982 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 2: in and missed some field goals and oh yeah, ended 983 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 2: up thirty one to twenty. So Kirk Cousin, at least 984 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 2: we did beat him. We beat him back in twenty 985 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 2: twenty one in Minnesota and Kevin Sevanci's return to Minnesota. 986 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, still some more stuff 987 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 2: from around the league. To get to some headlines around 988 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,720 Speaker 2: the National Football League. The Browns now an hour away 989 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 2: from the first training camp practice, and we are here 990 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 2: in the Greenbrier in West Virginia to give you all 991 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 2: the coverage. Specialists making their way out onto the field. 992 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 2: Dustin Hopkins, Kate York, Charlie Hewlett, a staple of your 993 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns, will be back with more CBD live from 994 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 2: the Greenbrier on eight to fifty ESPN. 995 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: Cleveland Broadcasting line from the Greenbrier Resort in training Camp 996 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. This is Cleveland Browns Daily brought to 997 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: you by Bally bat Now live in Ohio on eight. 998 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,280 Speaker 8: To fifty ESPN Cleveland. 999 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 1000 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 2: you by Bally Bett, Nathan Zegura, and the voice of 1001 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns Jim Donovan, live at the Greenbriar in 1002 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 2: White Sulfur Springs, West Virginia's The Browns get set to 1003 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 2: have their first training camp practice of the twenty twenty 1004 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 2: four season in just under an hour. The specialists are 1005 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 2: on the field as we speak right now, Kadi York, 1006 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 2: Dustin Hopkins, Corey Bjorkez, Charlie Hewlett starting to put the 1007 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,720 Speaker 2: ball in the air off of their feet as we speak. 1008 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 4: But Jim, we're gonna go around the league a little 1009 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 4: bit more. 1010 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 2: And there are a few things that have kind of 1011 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 2: come across my attention that I thought were very interesting. 1012 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 2: And you and I were sitting in there, and we 1013 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 2: were sitting next to Mike Rabel, and we were talking about, Wow, 1014 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 2: how great it is for the Cleveland Browns to have 1015 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:55,879 Speaker 2: Mike Rabel here. 1016 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 4: And it really is a remarkable thing, it really is. 1017 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 5: I remember covering him in high school. 1018 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 3: Great player, Walsh Jesuit and of course at Ohio State 1019 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,760 Speaker 3: and of course in the NFL. But it's amazing seeing 1020 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 3: him and he is very dialed in. Oh yeah, I 1021 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,240 Speaker 3: mean he really dialed in. This is not a vacation, 1022 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 3: you know, Hey, I'm I'm gonna, you know, observe here. 1023 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:21,919 Speaker 5: It was great. 1024 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 4: No, he is certainly very involved. 1025 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 2: And you know, he did an interview on Pardon My Take, 1026 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 2: which I referenced and in my travail's getting home from Atlanta, 1027 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 2: I had a lot of time in the car to 1028 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 2: listen to podcasts, and so we listened to the full 1029 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 2: interview and it was great. 1030 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 4: But he talked and and somebody's broke some news about 1031 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 4: what he's doing. 1032 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 2: And so he is obviously working as a coach and 1033 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 2: as a he's a consultant to Kevin Stefanski. He's been 1034 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 2: working some with the tight ends with Tommy Reese because 1035 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 2: he's so young to the NFL, is coming off of 1036 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 2: being Alabama's you know, offensive coordinator, only thirty years old, 1037 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 2: so he's been working with him. He's obviously working with 1038 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,800 Speaker 2: the linebackers a little bit, working on special teams with 1039 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 2: Bubba vent Trone, who above Ventrone was actually in. 1040 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,240 Speaker 4: New England with him was a rookie with Mike Rabel. 1041 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 2: So they talked about that connection, and then he said 1042 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 2: that he's doing some projects as well with Andrew Berry 1043 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 2: and doing some projects for the HASLMS. 1044 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 5: How about that? 1045 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 4: So I thought that was very interesting. 1046 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,320 Speaker 2: And then the one thing he did say is he 1047 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 2: is going to do everything he can to help this 1048 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 2: team win as many games possible leading up to game days, 1049 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 2: but that they all decided together that it was the 1050 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 2: best for him not to have a role on game 1051 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 2: day because it's Kevin Stefanski's team. Their game day operation 1052 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 2: has been great. I don't want to to muck it up. 1053 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,320 Speaker 5: I understand that. 1054 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 3: I said this to Bo when we were together the 1055 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,320 Speaker 3: last time. The thing about Mike Vrabel and his teams, 1056 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 3: they were always tough. 1057 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I played hard. 1058 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 3: They played hard, and they could go on the road 1059 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,879 Speaker 3: and they came here on opening Day that year. 1060 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 5: But they can go on the road and they can win. 1061 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 5: Why can they do that? 1062 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 2: They survive and they're tough. Today they out tough you. 1063 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 2: So he talked about that on that interview with them. 1064 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 2: They said, you know, your teams are always in games 1065 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 2: because they are so tough, and you get them ready 1066 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,359 Speaker 2: to play, and you have a game plan and they 1067 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 2: play hard. And their teams in the NFL that do 1068 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 2: not play hard week in and week out, and the 1069 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 2: teams that do and that have that physicality always have 1070 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 2: an opportunity to compete, you know, something he was very 1071 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 2: proud of from his time there with the Tennessee Titans. 1072 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 4: It's very clear that he will be in the league again. 1073 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 2: And I think part of what he's doing here is 1074 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 2: obviously learning from somebody very smart, obviously Kevin Stefanski, learning 1075 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 2: from Andrew Berry, because I don't think he wants to 1076 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 2: be in a situation like he was in Tennessee where 1077 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,399 Speaker 2: they're trading away AJ Brown from him, and he wants 1078 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 2: to maybe have a little bit more involvement on that side. 1079 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 2: You know. 1080 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 5: The other thing, Nathan, he lacked a quarterback. 1081 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 3: I think I think Tannehill was very good, but they 1082 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 3: were number one seed one time at home, couldn't win, 1083 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 3: ended up losing the game, and Tannehill had a horrible game. 1084 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 3: I always thought he just lack that they had to 1085 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,800 Speaker 3: follow a very particular script to win, you know what 1086 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 3: I mean? That was not we can't get down and 1087 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,839 Speaker 3: have big comebacks with Ryan Tannehill. You needed to run 1088 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 3: it with Henry, play great defense and then hit some 1089 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 3: big plays off a play action. Then he did that, 1090 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 3: to your point, very very effectively as that number one seed. 1091 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 3: But you're right, he never had a top ten quarterback 1092 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 3: at any point. I mean he had the running back, sure, 1093 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 3: you know he had you know he had he had 1094 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,720 Speaker 3: the receiver until they let him go. They his imprint 1095 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,879 Speaker 3: was his defense, defense, you know, And I just think 1096 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 3: that they needed that one guy. Yeah, that everybody needs, 1097 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,879 Speaker 3: right of course, over the line. And I always thought 1098 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 3: that Tannehill came up a little bit short games. 1099 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 2: When he had when he had to throw it and 1100 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 2: they knew he had to throw it, that's when he struggled. 1101 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 2: And you know Rabel obviously, Jim Schwartz was on his 1102 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 2: staff for a little while there as a consultant in Tennessee. 1103 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 2: So there's so many connective tissues that he talked about. Basically, 1104 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 2: when he talked about it with Kevin Span said sure, 1105 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 2: I'll do this now. There was a similar offer made 1106 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 2: to another New England icon, Kyle Shanahan, called Bill Belichick 1107 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 2: up and said, come beyond our you could do whatever 1108 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 2: you want, and Belichick turned it down, which I was 1109 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 2: honestly a little bit surprised by. 1110 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, what would he have done? 1111 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 4: Though he could have done, have done his life. 1112 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe, don't know if Bill Belichick would have the 1113 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,359 Speaker 5: time of his life doing that, though I think he's 1114 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 5: you know, he's all involved. 1115 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I really do. 1116 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 5: I was surprised though. 1117 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 2: It would be fascinating though, to have one of the 1118 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 2: best offensive minds, if not the best in the league 1119 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 2: and Kyle Shanahan along with the best defensive mind in 1120 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,799 Speaker 2: the league perhaps and Bill Belichick and what that would 1121 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 2: mean for the forty nine ers. And now Kyle said, 1122 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 2: you know, I really wanted it to happen, but there 1123 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 2: was a part of me that was scared that he 1124 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 2: was going to know everything about what I was doing. 1125 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 2: And then what if he ended up coaching you know, 1126 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 2: not the risk what Seahawks maybe Mike McDaniel McDonald's you know, 1127 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 2: won and done or something like that. What if you 1128 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 2: ended up in my division? But he said it was 1129 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 2: a risk we were willing to take because we wanted 1130 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 2: to have him on board. Somebody, I forget who I 1131 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 2: was talking to, but somebody said maybe it was a. 1132 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 2: I was talking with Girod about it yesterday that he 1133 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 2: thinks Bill wouldn't want to do that. Bill right now 1134 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 2: is going to go show the media world just how 1135 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 2: smart he is and how gregarious he can be, and 1136 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 2: how captivating, and he thinks that's going to kind of 1137 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 2: make him more appealing to own I don't know. 1138 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 4: I don't know why. I don't know why he's not appealing. 1139 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I think his resume speaks for itself, but 1140 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 2: that that would make him more appealing to an owner 1141 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 2: in a fan base. 1142 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 3: I think it's the power that he wields naturally. Oh yeah, 1143 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 3: that is intimidating the owner. To a general manager, you 1144 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 3: know that you would really have to, you know, have 1145 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 3: your ducks in a row to welcome him into your 1146 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 3: situation like that. So I was surprised. I was surprised 1147 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 3: to hear about it. Now, the gregarious part, we'll see. 1148 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,839 Speaker 3: That will be interesting. That will be very interesting. He's 1149 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 3: turned it on a little bit. You know, he's going 1150 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 3: to be part of what the Manning cast every week 1151 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 3: and Pat mcavie mcafe and he's going to be on 1152 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 3: the inside the NFL. 1153 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that that's he wants to plus. 1154 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 2: When you just hear him talk, you're gonna say, oh, man, 1155 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,959 Speaker 2: well when this guy not running my team. 1156 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 5: When they get the one hundred top players, he was tremendous. 1157 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 4: Oh so good. 1158 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 5: He was the best at that. 1159 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 3: So I think that's where people went, Hey, this is 1160 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,359 Speaker 3: pretty cool, you know absolutely. 1161 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 4: I just thought that was number one. 1162 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 2: I thought very cool of Kyle Shanahan to say, hey, 1163 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 2: whatever you want your job titled to be, come in 1164 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 2: here and work with us. And interesting that he said no, 1165 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,880 Speaker 2: because we're getting We're reaping the benefits right now. And 1166 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 2: I think Rabel's saying how much he's enjoying it and 1167 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,319 Speaker 2: how much he's getting out of it. And I think 1168 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 2: the Browns would all agree that they're getting a lot 1169 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 2: out of having Mike Brabel here as well. A couple 1170 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 2: other notes from around the league. The Jets have placed 1171 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 2: Hasano Reddick on the reserve did not reportless. So you 1172 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 2: trade for a guy who doesn't feel like wants to 1173 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 2: play for you. I don't get it. 1174 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 4: That's a privilege team. 1175 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 5: Why would that not have been worked out when they 1176 00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:58,879 Speaker 5: make the deal. 1177 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 6: He hasn't stud he hasn't set foot in their facility 1178 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 6: since he got traded. 1179 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 4: Why doesn't he want to go there? 1180 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1181 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 6: I think what it is is, I think it's the 1182 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 6: last year of a contract, so he's assuming that he 1183 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 6: You know, when you get traded in the final year 1184 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 6: of the deal, the thought is you're going to get 1185 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 6: some kind of extension or it will be paid forward. 1186 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 2: And this is not a loaded team loaded loaded Yeah, 1187 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 2: I mean he he easily be another double digit sack 1188 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 2: guy again there, as he has been basically everywhere in 1189 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:27,840 Speaker 2: his career. 1190 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 3: I just can't imagine that you wouldn't have had that 1191 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,919 Speaker 3: worked out. It's very odd when you get the deal 1192 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 3: done that Okay, here's where we are. 1193 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 5: Where are you? You know, we want this thing to 1194 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 5: go through pretty smoothly. So what are we going to do? 1195 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 4: You think when you're trading for the guy? Like, hey, 1196 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 4: you talked to him? Hey are you are you on 1197 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 4: board with? 1198 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 3: So? 1199 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,320 Speaker 6: Are you gonna at least talking to the agent and 1200 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 6: be like have you talked to your client? 1201 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 5: Is he good? Right? 1202 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 4: That's a pretty that's a stunning way that Joe Douglas. 1203 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 5: That better get right, you know that really better get right? 1204 00:53:58,680 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 5: In New York. 1205 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,919 Speaker 3: Oh, I know they get the pass last year because 1206 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 3: of the Rogers, you know, Achilles, but this is different. 1207 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what as entertaining as the off 1208 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,359 Speaker 2: season hard knocks on the Giants has been for maybe 1209 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 2: not all the right reasons. From their perspective, this would 1210 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 2: have been a fascinating one on the Jets with the 1211 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 2: trade verse on Reddick and then him saying yeah, I'm 1212 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 2: not coming come. 1213 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and Rogers not coming to Mendicap right. 1214 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, very important things that were pre planned. 1215 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1216 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 3: Uh. 1217 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 2: The Jags have unveiled new white alternate helmets that they 1218 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,879 Speaker 2: will wear in week ten. They look awesome. They've also 1219 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 2: announced they're wearing their Prowler throwback uniforms, which has that 1220 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,399 Speaker 2: the old school Jag. 1221 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1222 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Phenomena Tom Tom Coffin, Mark Burnell, Mark Burnell, Jimmy Smith, 1223 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,279 Speaker 2: Jimmy Smith. 1224 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 4: Keenan McCardell, Frank was it or McCardell. 1225 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,399 Speaker 2: I think it was Mark McCardell. Yeah, McCardell, former Brown 1226 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 2: who former ball and he todd he was Did he 1227 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,359 Speaker 2: spend some time in the Chargers at some point in career? 1228 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 2: Willhelm said he's the one who taught him how to 1229 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 2: cut his cleat so you could wear a size small, 1230 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 2: but you put these little incisions in it and it 1231 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 2: felt better and. 1232 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 5: We're gonna go with that. Yeah. He was a good player, 1233 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 5: very well, a good player here though. 1234 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 4: Very good player. 1235 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 2: Trent Williams has not reported the Niners for contract reasons. 1236 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 2: Ayuk is there holding in Atlity attending practice and. 1237 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan said, no problem with Trent Williams. 1238 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,280 Speaker 4: I think he'll be fine. 1239 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 6: Yes, this is a Chargers two thousand and four to 1240 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 6: two thousand and six. Is that when he came to 1241 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 6: the Bronson No, he was Browns ninety two to ninety five. 1242 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 5: Wow, Wow he was. 1243 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 6: He was in the NFL from ninety one through two 1244 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 6: thousand and seven. 1245 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1246 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 4: Wow. 1247 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 5: They were a good team. 1248 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:43,160 Speaker 4: Oh they were. 1249 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 5: They were. 1250 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,440 Speaker 6: I mean they were good fast Washington, Cleveland, Jacksonville than 1251 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 6: Tampa Bay, then San Diego than Houston. 1252 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,760 Speaker 2: That's when you were able to actually put an expansion 1253 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 2: team together and have a chance. 1254 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,800 Speaker 4: Well, I mean Jags and the Panthers. 1255 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 3: Were second year, they were both in a conference championship game. 1256 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, yeah, they were very very good. 1257 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb not reporting as well, he's looking for a 1258 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 2: new contract. Christian darrisaw the Vikings left tackle, did get 1259 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 2: a contract four years, one hundred and thirteen million, seventy 1260 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 2: seven guaranteed. 1261 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,919 Speaker 5: Hey, I hope Lamb gets it September ninth. 1262 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,280 Speaker 4: Fine, yes, stay. 1263 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 5: Away, go ahead and shut up, Dell. 1264 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 4: Set if you remember, take a breather. 1265 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 2: And I think I have a story right from watching 1266 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 2: all these old you know, football LIFs in America's game 1267 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 2: and all of those things. When Emmett Smith held out 1268 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,800 Speaker 2: one year with the Cowboys, they lost a couple of games, 1269 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 2: and then he got paid and came back and was 1270 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 2: off to the RASO. Yeah, I wouldn't mind a little 1271 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 2: history repeating itself there. Start oh on one and then oh, 1272 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 2: maybe we do need CD Lamb's fine, Tay, take your time. 1273 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,440 Speaker 2: By the way, The National Sports Collectors Convention is at 1274 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 2: Cleveland's IX Center right now through July twenty eighth, featuring 1275 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,760 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty superstar athletes. 1276 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,240 Speaker 4: Manny Ramirez, I'm gonna say, oh my god. 1277 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 2: Yes, show Montana, Floyd Money, Mayweather, Alan Iverson, and I 1278 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:00,879 Speaker 2: saw Lauren Taylor was there. 1279 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,360 Speaker 6: I saw some pictures Jan Marino, Doctor Jay was walking 1280 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 6: through Cleveland yesterday. 1281 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 5: He's there. 1282 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 2: It is a who's who of Rovel's there. Rovel came 1283 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 2: in to buy some stuff and a wild thing. Rick 1284 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 2: Vaughan signed country. 1285 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 6: So it was here in twenty eighteen. It's an amazing 1286 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 6: show just to walk through. I would like them from 1287 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 6: a memorabilia stown there. 1288 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1289 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 5: I know the top dog is there. 1290 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: I know. 1291 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 5: He's there Monday, Wednesday and Friday. 1292 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah right, he's there the whole time, ready to go. 1293 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 2: But yes, if you're in town, go check it out. 1294 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 2: I mean it's apparently it's incredible. 1295 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 5: It is awesome. 1296 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 4: So it's the first time it's been here in six years. Yeah, wow, 1297 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 4: go check it out. 1298 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 5: All right. 1299 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 2: When we come back. Our number two was we inch 1300 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 2: closer and closer. We're seeing players come out on the 1301 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 2: field time flights when you're having fun, John, there we go, here, 1302 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 2: we go all that. Today's Thursday, so we've got Thursday. 1303 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 6: Stop focusing on the fact that we're going to be 1304 00:57:58,440 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 6: here for. 1305 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 2: We've got thirteen hours more of Clive Brown's daily to 1306 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 2: do here from the Greenbriar. But we are rolling right now, baby, 1307 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 2: and it's as always brought to you by Bally Beck. 1308 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Greenbrier Resort and Sports 1309 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: Performance Center in West Virginia. This is Cleveland Browns Daily 1310 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 1: and Training Camp twenty twenty four, brought to you by 1311 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 1: Bally bet Now live in Ohio on. 1312 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 8: Eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1313 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,840 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Nathan Zagura and the Voice of 1314 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 1: the Browns Jim Donovan. 1315 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 2: To the Cleveland Browns, Jim Donovan, We are live at 1316 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,920 Speaker 2: the Sports Performance Center at the Greenbrier and White Sulfur Springs, 1317 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 2: West Virginia. As you those who are watching on the stream, 1318 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 2: you see the specialists out there, Katie York, Dustin Hopkins 1319 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 2: kicking some field goals, Charlie Hewlett, Cory Bjorkis, and of 1320 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,160 Speaker 2: course special teams coordinator Bubba van Trone, who we're told 1321 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 2: is at his playing weight, has no restrictions on that 1322 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 2: foot that was injured a year ago. 1323 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,920 Speaker 6: I think here it was here that That's what I 1324 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 6: told him. I was like, whatever you do, you do 1325 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,480 Speaker 6: not run one hundred yards springs, just run sprints and 1326 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 6: a barefoot. He would run sprints barefoot, and he had 1327 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 6: a stress. 1328 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 2: Stress fracture, yeah, right here at the Greenbrier. But he 1329 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 2: is in peak physical condition and and and that is 1330 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 2: a good thing playing really does. 1331 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, if he remember him well, and he looked, 1332 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 3: you know, minus the hair coming out of the back 1333 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:33,960 Speaker 3: of the helmet. 1334 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 5: He doesn't look he is playing weight. 1335 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 4: I love it, love to see it. And Kate's hitting 1336 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 4: some bombs out there right now. 1337 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 2: He was like an atomic bomb. Oh yeah, yeah, missile bo. 1338 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 2: Unbelievable those are and it'll be interesting, you know. And 1339 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 2: when he had to bust the wedge up and get 1340 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 2: in there, and it was a very violent thing. And 1341 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 2: now this kickoff is going to be much different. And 1342 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 2: I think the Browns are lucky to have Bubba because 1343 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 2: I think the teams that are good at this kickoff 1344 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 2: in terms of returning it and defending it. Yeah, it's 1345 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 2: gonna be a big advantage. Games are gonna be one 1346 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 2: and loss on kickoffs. And I wonder at what point 1347 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,440 Speaker 2: the season are team's gonna say, screw it, We'll just 1348 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 2: give them the ball at to thirty. 1349 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:17,000 Speaker 5: How about that? 1350 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 3: Though it was such an irrelevant play, I mean, you know, 1351 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 3: it was almost gone, a ceremonial play, right, and now 1352 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 3: it could be back and like you said, how you 1353 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 3: do it, how you implement it, could be could cost 1354 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 3: you a game or win you a game. 1355 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 2: Right, I think I've I think I've done play by 1356 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 2: play for maybe three plays as you were coming back 1357 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 2: up from smashing the guitar in against the Pittsburgh Steelers. 1358 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 4: One of them was the kickoff. That was the easiest 1359 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 4: one I did. 1360 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,959 Speaker 2: Balls up, it's out of the back of the end zone, 1361 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 2: and they will take over first down and ten at 1362 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 2: the twenty five. 1363 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 5: That was Bubba's got his own thoughts about this. 1364 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 2: Oh, he certainly does, and I think he thinks it 1365 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 2: is going to be a big advantage. And you'll see 1366 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 2: while we're out here, and we saw it at mini 1367 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 2: camp as well. You know you're gonna see defensive tackles 1368 01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 2: out there. You're gonna see offensive tackles out there. You're 1369 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 2: gonna see big linebackers, but you're gonna see offensive and 1370 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 2: defensive linemen be a part of this along with the 1371 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 2: guys that you would normally expect. You know, your tight 1372 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 2: ends and your your linebackers and some of your safeties 1373 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 2: and dbs. You know, guys that can run quickly and hit. 1374 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 2: But you're gonna see some big bodies out there. Because 1375 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 2: it's become it's much more like a run play than 1376 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 2: it used to be. It is now you're gonna have 1377 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 2: kind of this point where if you can kind of 1378 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 2: put your foot in the ground, and that's why the 1379 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 2: returners it'll be interesting. 1380 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 4: Nahem. 1381 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 2: Heinz, you know, has been so good as a returner 1382 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 2: also a running back. But a guy like Pierre Strong 1383 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 2: who has that kind of put your foot in the ground, 1384 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,400 Speaker 2: one cut and go. He had a couple that he 1385 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 2: took back in mini camp and I'm excited to see that. 1386 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 4: But yeah, he is. 1387 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 2: He thinks he agreed with my thought that there will 1388 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 2: be a record set for kick return touchdowns league wide 1389 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 2: this year. 1390 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 5: Wow, well that's exciting. That'll be fun, yeah, I think so. 1391 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I thought they were. I thought we were 1392 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 3: going down the road that it would no longer be 1393 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 3: in the game just taking at the twenty five twenty 1394 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,959 Speaker 3: five yard line. You know, here you go, you start 1395 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:01,919 Speaker 3: out first and ten. 1396 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 5: So it would be fun. That's that's good. 1397 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 2: Adding to the game, I think, yea yeah, and adding 1398 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 2: to you know, a team that can master that getting 1399 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 2: an advantage that there will be some strategy obviously, Look, 1400 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 2: it's a copycat league. Once you see some of the 1401 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 2: returns that work, we're gonna get a lot of copycats 1402 01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 2: around the league. But you know, that was one of 1403 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 2: the things I talked with bub about that I thought 1404 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 2: was interesting about this is you're going to have something 1405 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 2: I'm guessing that nobody has seen, and it's kind of 1406 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 2: when do you pull that out? What is the moment 1407 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 2: when it becomes big enough? And he decided last year 1408 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 2: I believe it was Week six in Indianapolis when he 1409 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,600 Speaker 2: was going to unveil Miles Garrett's ability to jump over 1410 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 2: the line against his former team and block a field goal. 1411 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 2: So that was something that had been in since before 1412 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 2: Week one and that's the time he decided. So it'll 1413 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 2: be interesting to see kind of how that goes where 1414 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 2: when you decide, Okay, we got I know we have 1415 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 2: a big return in us, let's use it here. But yeah, 1416 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 2: then we put it out on tape for everybody to see. 1417 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 2: That'll be fun still to come. We got the mail 1418 01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 2: bag coming up, so get your questions in using the 1419 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 2: head check as CBD. I know we've seen I've seen 1420 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 2: a few of them come through Gibbe, So we've got 1421 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:03,840 Speaker 2: some things there. 1422 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:04,920 Speaker 4: Let's talk about this. 1423 01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 2: Jim, Yeah, keys to a successful twenty twenty four season, 1424 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 2: and Gibbet has tasked us with putting together ten keys 1425 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,840 Speaker 2: for a successful twenty twenty four season, and so we 1426 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 2: don't have to necessarily do them in order just yet. 1427 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 2: We can kind of just throw them out there, you know, 1428 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 2: you can throw one out, all thrown out, and then 1429 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 2: we'll we'll see if we can kind of put those 1430 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 2: together in some type of a list. But when you 1431 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,800 Speaker 2: think of this season, what's what comes to your mind 1432 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,080 Speaker 2: is a big key for this season? 1433 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:35,080 Speaker 5: Well, I would go one through eight. You might go 1434 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 5: one through nine to Searn Watts. That's right. 1435 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:42,000 Speaker 3: The health of him, the ability to get a little bit, 1436 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 3: maybe a lot more comfortable in his game, in resurrecting 1437 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 3: that game, and his ability to be out there every Sunday. Yep, 1438 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 3: you know, because I think that's a worry. It's amasso, 1439 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 3: and it was a big worry last year. It was 1440 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 3: a big downer when it became the eventual thing that 1441 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 3: he wasn't going to be out there for the remainder 1442 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:01,760 Speaker 3: of the season. 1443 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 5: So I think he is right at the top. Yeah, 1444 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 5: right at the top. 1445 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 4: I couldn't agree with you anymore. And I put it. 1446 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,480 Speaker 2: I kind of gave him one and two in the 1447 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:14,160 Speaker 2: sense that number one is Deshaun Watson's ability right availability? 1448 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,560 Speaker 2: Can he be on the field for you? Can he 1449 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 2: plays seventeen games for you? And then number two is 1450 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 2: the performance. How does this new offense with Ken Dorsey, 1451 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 2: which he's very excited about, how does it actually mesh 1452 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 2: with what he's doing? Is he able to execute at 1453 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,680 Speaker 2: the level we haven't seen him execute really since twenty twenty. 1454 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 2: We've seen flashes against Tennessee, we saw flashes against Arizona, 1455 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 2: we saw flashes against Baltimore. But I'm talking about putting 1456 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:40,960 Speaker 2: it together for you know, a season at a very 1457 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 2: very high level. 1458 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 5: Well, that will be. 1459 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,720 Speaker 3: Fun because we know what Kevin did, what his offense 1460 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,080 Speaker 3: look like. We liked it, Yeah, I mean you like it. 1461 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,640 Speaker 3: And now we're gonna have variation and we have a 1462 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,520 Speaker 3: new set of eyes in there and a new voice, 1463 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 3: and that will be interesting to see, you know, the differences, 1464 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 3: you know, and how they how they look out on 1465 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,800 Speaker 3: the field, and are they gonna be drastic yes? Or 1466 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 3: is it just something you know that's gonna be minimal 1467 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 3: and tweaked a little bit And is it all centered 1468 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 3: around the quarterback? 1469 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna have a lot more shotgun. Yeah, 1470 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna have a lot more eleven personnel. 1471 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna have a lot more pre snap motion. 1472 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna have a lot more option routes 1473 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,040 Speaker 2: and choice routes for receivers based on coverages that they 1474 01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:27,560 Speaker 2: see where they have to be on the same page 1475 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 2: with the quarterback. And that's why these reps are so 1476 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 2: important and so key that Deshaun's cleared and ready to 1477 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 2: go full And I think you're still gonna see some 1478 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 2: of Kevin Stefanski's concepts, especially in the run game obviously, 1479 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 2: and you're gonna see, you know, some of that under 1480 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,680 Speaker 2: center back to the defensive play action because it can 1481 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 2: be so successful, but that so far has not been 1482 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,960 Speaker 2: necessarily what Deshaun's strongest suit has been. And so I 1483 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be much more tailored to what you've 1484 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 2: seen when you put on old Houston tape him in 1485 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,160 Speaker 2: the shotgun, him making plays and you went out and 1486 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 2: you've surrounded him. You know, I'll put this as another one, 1487 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:05,080 Speaker 2: is you know, this receiving corps being elite because with 1488 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 2: Amari Cooper, with Jerry Judy, with David Ajoku and Elijah 1489 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,240 Speaker 2: Moore and Tillman and Tilman coming up, you should be 1490 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:14,560 Speaker 2: very productive. 1491 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,520 Speaker 3: I agree with you on that, and I think that they, 1492 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,080 Speaker 3: you know more, I would look for a big year 1493 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,640 Speaker 3: from him. I think we got little snippets of him 1494 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,760 Speaker 3: last year that you know, he was going to be 1495 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,160 Speaker 3: the guy that they really liked, and they liked him 1496 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,560 Speaker 3: even coming out of college. Yeah, I think that. I 1497 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 3: think that receiving court is going to be important. I'm 1498 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,040 Speaker 3: interested in Tillman because I thought he looked good in 1499 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 3: the spring. You look stronger again more, you know, I 1500 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,800 Speaker 3: think confident in what he was doing play in, play out. 1501 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:48,080 Speaker 5: Well. 1502 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,440 Speaker 3: I think at times last year he was getting you know, 1503 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 3: pushed onto the field because of injury, and you know. 1504 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 5: That was tough for him. 1505 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 4: You know, it's that's a big jump, it's a huge jump. 1506 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:02,520 Speaker 4: And I think that you know, he he was also coming. 1507 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 2: Off of a season with an injury, right, And and 1508 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,920 Speaker 2: I do think one of the other changes I think 1509 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 2: you'll see in this offense is last year. And part 1510 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,360 Speaker 2: of a lot of credit to Kevin is the fantasy 1511 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,640 Speaker 2: is just so darned good at scheming things up. But 1512 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,720 Speaker 2: plays were pretty much called for Amari Cooper or chief 1513 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,040 Speaker 2: right and they got the ball. And you saw Elijah 1514 01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,240 Speaker 2: Moore in that game against the Jets when Amari was 1515 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 2: the late scratch stepped into that role and guess what 1516 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 2: he had I think six for sixty and a touchdown 1517 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 2: in the first half. 1518 01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. Remember he had that big play where he. 1519 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 2: Tipped him and he got all yeah, and then he 1520 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,320 Speaker 2: scored the touchdown, which I know he was very exciting. 1521 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 4: Was totally it was, but he was in that role. 1522 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:43,000 Speaker 2: I think this offense is not gonna be as much 1523 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:44,880 Speaker 2: of kind of when you think of Stefansker, you think 1524 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 2: of like a Kyle Shanahan offense, where it's okay, here's 1525 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,880 Speaker 2: here's where the here's the play that we've designed, here's 1526 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,360 Speaker 2: where the ball goes. If they do this, it's gonna 1527 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,280 Speaker 2: be a little bit Obviously, you're reading the defense and 1528 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,200 Speaker 2: that's gonna dictate where the ball goes. But I think 1529 01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:58,800 Speaker 2: the ball is gonna be spread around a lot more. 1530 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna have certain games based on coverages. 1531 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 2: It's gonna be an Elijah board game. Certain games it's 1532 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 2: gonna be a Jerry Judy game. Some games are gonna 1533 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 2: be obviously Amari Cooper game. Some are gonna be chief 1534 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 2: and it's going to be hopefully given the guys enough 1535 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 2: in the games that aren't quote unquote their games that 1536 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,720 Speaker 2: they stay happy and by the way, winning helps that happen. 1537 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,719 Speaker 3: So on the other flip side of that, Nathan, where 1538 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,040 Speaker 3: is the run game? So where is the run game? 1539 01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:26,760 Speaker 3: And of course without Nick Chubb or when will we 1540 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 3: get Chubb? But where is the run game? Where's the 1541 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:29,639 Speaker 3: fit there? 1542 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 2: So we have been a run dominant team. Yes, I 1543 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,040 Speaker 2: don't think we will continue to be a run dominant team. 1544 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:36,640 Speaker 2: I think this is going to be much more of 1545 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 2: a pass oriented team. Now, that's not to say we 1546 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,280 Speaker 2: won't be effective running the ball, because I think we 1547 01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,720 Speaker 2: will be. You've got you know, Jerome Ford, You've got 1548 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,680 Speaker 2: Pierre Strong, and then I really like Deontay Foreman, who 1549 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,519 Speaker 2: is gonna be that kind of big Kareem Hunt type 1550 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,760 Speaker 2: power back. But he's got, at this point in his 1551 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,280 Speaker 2: career a little bit more left in the tank than 1552 01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,080 Speaker 2: Kareem in terms of his ability to get down the 1553 01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 2: field and make big plays in addition to the short 1554 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,719 Speaker 2: yard and stuff. So I still think you'll see running. 1555 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:02,720 Speaker 2: I do think you're gonna see a little bit more 1556 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 2: quarterback and you know, option out of the shotgun runs. 1557 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 2: But you will still have some of the staples of 1558 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 2: what Kevin Stefanskian Bill Callahan really orchestrated over the last 1559 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,760 Speaker 2: few years that we're just good at. Bottom line is 1560 01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,920 Speaker 2: Joe Platonia, White Teller, two of the best pulling guards 1561 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:17,519 Speaker 2: in the NFL. 1562 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,200 Speaker 4: You're not gonna go away from ye doing those things. 1563 01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 3: This isn't that a great site? Oh when you see 1564 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 3: seventy five or seventy seven or both of them leading 1565 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,439 Speaker 3: the way, Yeah, I mean that is a comforting, comforting 1566 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 3: site post that. 1567 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:31,720 Speaker 4: Can do it. 1568 01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:31,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1569 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So I think you're still gonna have all 1570 01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,400 Speaker 2: that in there. And I think it goes back to 1571 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,280 Speaker 2: what you were saying in terms of points one and 1572 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:44,439 Speaker 2: two is we're gonna go as far ultimately as I 1573 01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,559 Speaker 2: think Deshaun Watson can't take us. 1574 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:47,920 Speaker 4: That's that's the league. 1575 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:48,200 Speaker 1: Now. 1576 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,679 Speaker 2: We have an elite defense, we have got the skill talent, 1577 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,720 Speaker 2: We are good in the trenches on both sides of 1578 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 2: the football. It's gonna be can our quarterback be I 1579 01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 2: think if he's top twelve in the league this year, 1580 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,160 Speaker 2: we can win a Super Bowl. 1581 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm telling you. I go back to our number one. 1582 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,880 Speaker 3: There are gonna be those points in the game where 1583 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 3: it's gonna be sitting there. 1584 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:10,760 Speaker 4: Oh yeah. 1585 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:15,040 Speaker 3: And can he pull it out now in his early years, 1586 01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,640 Speaker 3: no doubt about it, of course, no doubt about it. 1587 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,320 Speaker 3: But in this kind of recess of its career, you 1588 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,760 Speaker 3: know this halt, you know you're wondering now can he 1589 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 3: can he find that again? And he's got a lot 1590 01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,960 Speaker 3: of tools with him. Oh yeah, and he just has 1591 01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,120 Speaker 3: to break through. I think he's got to do it 1592 01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 3: week to week. 1593 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 2: And I think that's what was so hard is I 1594 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,759 Speaker 2: think that Baltimore game in many respects, was that breakthrough 1595 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,519 Speaker 2: for him mentally as much, Yeah, I still can do this. 1596 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:43,479 Speaker 4: You have to have that belief. 1597 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 2: So I think he's coming in in a much better 1598 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,960 Speaker 2: place right now mentally knowing that he can do it. 1599 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,800 Speaker 2: And I think we'll see that certainly on the field. 1600 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:54,240 Speaker 2: Right we'll take a break, we'll come back with some 1601 01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:55,920 Speaker 2: more keys, and we'll get into the mail bag. It's 1602 01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,920 Speaker 2: Mailbag Thursday. Here you're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought 1603 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,040 Speaker 2: to you by Bally Betta, sports betting partner of your 1604 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,480 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Now Live in Ohio. 1605 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,800 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Greenbrier Resort and Training Camp twenty 1606 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,000 Speaker 1: twenty four. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you 1607 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,560 Speaker 1: by Bally Back Now live in Ohio. 1608 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,639 Speaker 8: On eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1609 01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,800 Speaker 2: Get your Cleveland brown single game tickets now for all 1610 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,320 Speaker 2: the great matchups at Cleveland brown Stadium. Visit Cleveland Browns 1611 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,479 Speaker 2: dot com. Slash tickets are called four four oh eight 1612 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,960 Speaker 2: nine to one five zero five zero to purchase today. 1613 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,759 Speaker 2: Nathan Zigura, Jim Donovan. We are live at the Sports 1614 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,400 Speaker 2: Performance Center at the Greenbrier in West Virginia. Mike Rabel 1615 01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 2: making his way onto the field along with a host 1616 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,800 Speaker 2: of Brown's players as we get ready here Jim, twenty 1617 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,880 Speaker 2: minutes away. Yeah, from the first training camp practice of 1618 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four for the Cleveland Browns. 1619 01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,920 Speaker 3: Gat to see them out on the field. Yes, you know, 1620 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:04,640 Speaker 3: doing names and faces and reacquaintances. Looks good, really looks good. 1621 01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:05,200 Speaker 5: Nice day. 1622 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,639 Speaker 2: It is a beautiful day, a little overcast, cool, little breeze. 1623 01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,800 Speaker 2: I see Nick Chubb over there right now, walking around 1624 01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,560 Speaker 2: number twenty four in the baseball cap there. He is 1625 01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,439 Speaker 2: here at the Greenbrier opening on the pup list though, 1626 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:22,439 Speaker 2: so he will not participate in practice today. When he's cleared, 1627 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,640 Speaker 2: then he will be able to participate in practice for 1628 01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:26,760 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns. But it's good to see a number 1629 01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,760 Speaker 2: two a Marii Cooper walking out right now with his 1630 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,840 Speaker 2: helmet in hand, fresh off of the new contract. So 1631 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,599 Speaker 2: that's good to see head coach Kevin Stefanski coming out also. 1632 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,559 Speaker 2: And you know, I think we should throw this one 1633 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,280 Speaker 2: in there, Jim for the keys is. We talked about 1634 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:43,760 Speaker 2: availability and health of Deshaun Watson. Miles Garrett's got to say, 1635 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,080 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett is reigning defensive Player of the Year. Keeping 1636 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 2: him healthy I think is as important on the defensive 1637 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,559 Speaker 2: side as it is for Deshaun Watson on the offense. 1638 01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:58,000 Speaker 3: Well, he is such a game yeah, controller wrecker, game wrecker, 1639 01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:03,720 Speaker 3: game changer. I mean yeah, absolutely, I mean always has 1640 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 3: to be accounted for him. Seldom can you account for him. 1641 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,320 Speaker 3: Even if you account for him, you cannot hold him back, 1642 01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 3: You can't hold him down. 1643 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:11,760 Speaker 2: No. 1644 01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:16,680 Speaker 3: He he changes the game, he really does, he does, 1645 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,880 Speaker 3: and he changes it for the other ten With him 1646 01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,360 Speaker 3: on that Browns defense, I mean it really does. You know, 1647 01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:27,479 Speaker 3: they really flourish when when he is out there and 1648 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,519 Speaker 3: getting all the attention that he deserves. 1649 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, Zadarius, you know he's going. He's healthy this year 1650 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,360 Speaker 2: as of right now. We'll hope that that stays through 1651 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,080 Speaker 2: the season and expect him to have a big year. 1652 01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,120 Speaker 2: Obo Alex Wright came on so strong. You know, you've 1653 01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 2: got the interior pass rushers. Now you get it, Mike 1654 01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,000 Speaker 2: call in the draft, Quentin Jefferson who's got eleven and 1655 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,200 Speaker 2: a half sacks the last two seasons, and so all 1656 01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,160 Speaker 2: of a sudden, yeah, Miles is there. I mean, you 1657 01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,760 Speaker 2: saw the list that ESPN compiled where they talked all 1658 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 2: the executives and the coaches, and it was such a 1659 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,280 Speaker 2: consensus that he was the best defensive end or edge 1660 01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,800 Speaker 2: in the game and basically one of the coordinators that 1661 01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,120 Speaker 2: if you don't double him on replay, he will ruin 1662 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 2: the game. 1663 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,120 Speaker 5: He'll ruin the game, no doubt about it. 1664 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:07,080 Speaker 3: Well, people they realize that, and then, like I said, 1665 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:11,160 Speaker 3: the other guys on that defense they really flourish because 1666 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:11,360 Speaker 3: of that. 1667 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,880 Speaker 2: I still think what we saw against Tennessee, and we 1668 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,240 Speaker 2: need to ask Vrabel about this at some point, but 1669 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,640 Speaker 2: when he motioned from as a defensive player, when he 1670 01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 2: was motioning and all of a sudden you have two 1671 01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,200 Speaker 2: tight ends following him from the right side, and he's like, well, 1672 01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:24,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go run back over here to the left side. 1673 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:26,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna just toy with you a little bit. 1674 01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,040 Speaker 2: And it was funny a second to Zidarius Zadarias, like, 1675 01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,040 Speaker 2: get off, get away from the side, this is my side. 1676 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,280 Speaker 4: Let me rush from over here. You relax there. 1677 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, Miles obviously a huge part of what the 1678 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,640 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns do on defense. And you know on the 1679 01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:42,040 Speaker 2: back end, Loan Thornhill coming off that calf injury that 1680 01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,000 Speaker 2: he said plagued them all. Your delpit had a season 1681 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:44,679 Speaker 2: ending injury. 1682 01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:46,479 Speaker 4: Those guys. Getting those guys back as huge. 1683 01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,360 Speaker 3: No, but that injury I thought really hurt them, and 1684 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,920 Speaker 3: it hurt them in Houston very much. So I really 1685 01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,680 Speaker 3: thought it really hurt them in Houston that day. I 1686 01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,080 Speaker 3: really believe that he needed to be there. Yes, and 1687 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 3: when they lost him in that game at Proms Stadiums 1688 01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:03,920 Speaker 3: or Jaguars. 1689 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,240 Speaker 4: Bears that which one was first. I'm trying at Jackson. 1690 01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:09,200 Speaker 4: I think it was Jackson. 1691 01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,400 Speaker 5: They lost an awful lot because. 1692 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:13,360 Speaker 4: The Anthony Belt had the pick. 1693 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,320 Speaker 2: Great year and that's why he got rewarded with the 1694 01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,599 Speaker 2: uh he got rewarded with the contract extension. He looks 1695 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,120 Speaker 2: great by the way he's out here. And so, yeah, 1696 01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,680 Speaker 2: this team right now for the most part healthy. The 1697 01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 2: guys that they're surprised, you know, with Greg and Dalvin 1698 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:29,560 Speaker 2: not being ready to go at the beginning, but you know, 1699 01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,519 Speaker 2: you didn't expect Nick Chubb. You know, Conklin and Jed 1700 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,720 Speaker 2: Wills will be back sooner rather than later. It's just 1701 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,400 Speaker 2: a matter of time to to recover from their injuries. 1702 01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:38,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, you're in a good You're in a good 1703 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,000 Speaker 2: spot with this football team, and it's gonna be fun 1704 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 2: to see, you know, everybody out here and and putting 1705 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,040 Speaker 2: it together. And you know you always talking about year 1706 01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:49,959 Speaker 2: two in a defense, it gives Jim Schwartz the idea opportunity, 1707 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,200 Speaker 2: I think, to add more wrinkles into things and guys 1708 01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,000 Speaker 2: are just gonna be more comfortable playing faster. 1709 01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:58,640 Speaker 5: Now, what would you think Jim would want to like 1710 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:00,639 Speaker 5: improve last year? 1711 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,719 Speaker 3: So why do you think the Browns defense would really 1712 01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,360 Speaker 3: want to improve on from what they did last year, 1713 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,880 Speaker 3: which was very very good. 1714 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give you a couple things, and maybe they're 1715 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,920 Speaker 2: just statistical anomalies, but it is. It was a fact 1716 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,479 Speaker 2: that last year, in a very small sample size, we 1717 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,800 Speaker 2: were significantly better defense at home than we were on 1718 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,040 Speaker 2: the road. Now, some of that has to do with 1719 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 2: the quarterbacks that you play, some of it has to 1720 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,040 Speaker 2: do with the noise, and so maybe your get off 1721 01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:25,640 Speaker 2: isn't as good on the road as it is at 1722 01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:27,880 Speaker 2: home because the line, you know, it's not they are 1723 01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:29,679 Speaker 2: quiet for the home offensive line. 1724 01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,680 Speaker 4: But that's part of it. Number Two, we were not 1725 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:32,639 Speaker 4: great in the red zone. 1726 01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,400 Speaker 2: And I think that's probably the most important thing to 1727 01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,200 Speaker 2: get better at is between the twenties we were the 1728 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,200 Speaker 2: best defense in the league by a wide, wide margin, 1729 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:42,880 Speaker 2: but in the red zone we were not an elite 1730 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:43,720 Speaker 2: defense last year. 1731 01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:44,000 Speaker 4: I think that. 1732 01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:46,800 Speaker 5: I mean, it's very secondary. 1733 01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,439 Speaker 4: It's great lineat. 1734 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 2: It's a very strange it was just a strange thing 1735 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,360 Speaker 2: and sometimes teams to make plays and it's a condensed area. 1736 01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,200 Speaker 2: And I think the third thing that you'd want to 1737 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:04,400 Speaker 2: work on is maybe not being and predictable is not 1738 01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,960 Speaker 2: the right word, but not being when you come out 1739 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,880 Speaker 2: of the Houston game, what we did to go to Houston, 1740 01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,200 Speaker 2: as we said, this is who we are and this 1741 01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,920 Speaker 2: is how we're gonna play, and they took advantage of 1742 01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,000 Speaker 2: that in some cases, especially with the inexperience we had 1743 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,880 Speaker 2: at safety. To your point with you know, we're starting 1744 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,439 Speaker 2: Ronnie Hickman and d Anthony Bell. You know McLoud was 1745 01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,160 Speaker 2: out at that point too. I mean it was it 1746 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 2: was it lost your top three safety. So I think, 1747 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,360 Speaker 2: you know, maybe mixing in in certain cases some more 1748 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,800 Speaker 2: zones just to create a little bit of confusion with 1749 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,400 Speaker 2: the quarterbacks. But we've got great man corners. You're gonna 1750 01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,160 Speaker 2: play man, and I think you're gonna be who you are. 1751 01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,400 Speaker 2: That's the identity of this football team. But I think 1752 01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:38,720 Speaker 2: those are really the things. I think if you clean 1753 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:40,960 Speaker 2: up the red zone and turn sevens into threes, we 1754 01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:42,840 Speaker 2: become even better and we win more games. 1755 01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,040 Speaker 5: How would you say they were third down getting off 1756 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,040 Speaker 5: the field the best, right? Yeah? The best? Absolutely? 1757 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, an elite third down defense. And that's the thing. 1758 01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,080 Speaker 2: You know, it all goes hand in hand. Right If 1759 01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,559 Speaker 2: you're winning football games and our offense is putting points 1760 01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,599 Speaker 2: on the board and teams are getting in situations where 1761 01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,120 Speaker 2: they've got to throw the football to compete with the 1762 01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:05,120 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns, that's a field day. Then because our corners 1763 01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,720 Speaker 2: know the ball's got to come out quick. Our line 1764 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:08,960 Speaker 2: is gonna be able to get there. We're going to 1765 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,800 Speaker 2: be able to have at times four defensive ends on 1766 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,920 Speaker 2: the field. If we want to put Miles and and 1767 01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,800 Speaker 2: Alex right inside with o Bowe Zadarius outside, or bring 1768 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,040 Speaker 2: Zadarius inside and put Miles outside, We're gonna be able 1769 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 2: to have Mike Hall, who at times was so dominant 1770 01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,360 Speaker 2: at Ohio State, that quick step to get to the quarterback. 1771 01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,080 Speaker 2: You got Jefferson who's got, as I said, eleven and 1772 01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,360 Speaker 2: a half sacks the last two seasons. If we can 1773 01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,479 Speaker 2: get teams in those type of situations, all of a sudden, 1774 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,360 Speaker 2: this defense is going to be incredible. 1775 01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,599 Speaker 5: And Michael Hall will come in under the right way. 1776 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,920 Speaker 4: Right, Oh yeah, rotation got totally. 1777 01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,479 Speaker 5: Come in play that way, get your plays in. 1778 01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:44,280 Speaker 2: My guess is he's going to come in and be 1779 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,760 Speaker 2: you know, the the job that I think they would 1780 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,080 Speaker 2: like him to earn would be to be a sub 1781 01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,320 Speaker 2: package pass rusher, to be a guy that comes in 1782 01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,200 Speaker 2: an obvious passing situation and it's all get upfield and 1783 01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,439 Speaker 2: get to the quarterback, which he can do incredibly quickly. 1784 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,080 Speaker 2: And so oh dominantly and here comes. This is a 1785 01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:07,040 Speaker 2: beautiful sight our guy, Dewan Jones jogging out here, number 1786 01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,160 Speaker 2: seventy nine, looking great. What a mountain of a man 1787 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,400 Speaker 2: as we are here in in in the mountains of 1788 01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:14,800 Speaker 2: West Virginia. 1789 01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:18,400 Speaker 4: Nathan, he looks looks great. He isn't great to look 1790 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,720 Speaker 4: at him? Yeah, my guy, there he is, Oh, yeah, 1791 01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:22,680 Speaker 4: there he is. He was dancing in the rain in 1792 01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,120 Speaker 4: some video I saw in a in a guardian's jersey. 1793 01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,400 Speaker 6: I think he was outside of the hotel downtown. 1794 01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:29,919 Speaker 4: It looked he looked phenomenal. 1795 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, he was living his best life. 1796 01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:32,960 Speaker 5: All right. Let me give you another key. 1797 01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:33,519 Speaker 4: Okay. 1798 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:39,160 Speaker 3: The offensive line and those tackles, yep, can they stay healthy? 1799 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,400 Speaker 3: You know because when they when they start to go down, 1800 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,719 Speaker 3: you're you know, and invariably it happens, but they start 1801 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,600 Speaker 3: to go down, it's a difficult thing to you know, 1802 01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,080 Speaker 3: put a patron and I. 1803 01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:52,720 Speaker 2: Think you go back to that Houston game we talked 1804 01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:54,200 Speaker 2: about kind of just some of the things that we 1805 01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:56,559 Speaker 2: had been able to get through all year and survive 1806 01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:01,439 Speaker 2: all kind of came to a head. Inexperienced secondary he's 1807 01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,680 Speaker 2: down wearing the what our fifth and six tackles. At 1808 01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,559 Speaker 2: that point in a playoff game, Flacco had thrown some picks. 1809 01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,280 Speaker 2: It all just kind of came to roost and what 1810 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,200 Speaker 2: ended up being a very ugly game for the Cleveland Browns. 1811 01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:11,479 Speaker 2: But I'm with you the offensive line, and I think 1812 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,640 Speaker 2: it's beyond that as well. As you know, Joel is 1813 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,040 Speaker 2: no spring chicken, and there is wear and tear on 1814 01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:19,880 Speaker 2: his body Wyatt, you know, And that's why they think 1815 01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,479 Speaker 2: they went out and drafted zag Zenter because they need 1816 01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,439 Speaker 2: a guy who could step in potentially this year. But 1817 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,759 Speaker 2: also you got to have the natural idea of succession 1818 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,040 Speaker 2: planning going forward. As we pay our guards, you know, 1819 01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,160 Speaker 2: two of the top guard salaries in the National Football League. 1820 01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:36,000 Speaker 4: What a quality is awesome? Center, Yes, that's. 1821 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,680 Speaker 2: He just feels like talking to him, being around him, 1822 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,400 Speaker 2: that feels like guy that you draft, much like a 1823 01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:42,400 Speaker 2: Joel Botonio, where you're like, Okay, this guy's just going 1824 01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,040 Speaker 2: to be a starter for a decade in the National 1825 01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,360 Speaker 2: Football League. And it's great to see Joel Batonio out there. 1826 01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,960 Speaker 2: I see David Nijoku in the T shirt over there 1827 01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:53,160 Speaker 2: joking around with Nick Chubb. Potonio making his way out 1828 01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:54,880 Speaker 2: on the field now in the Guardian Caps. We got 1829 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,080 Speaker 2: to get our Guardian caps updated. Apparently around the league 1830 01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,400 Speaker 2: they've got skull caps on him that make him look 1831 01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:01,040 Speaker 2: like the teams helmets, So we need to get that 1832 01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:06,080 Speaker 2: out here with the Cleveland Browns, it's just right, and 1833 01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,240 Speaker 2: we'll call it an off white, an off white for 1834 01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:12,439 Speaker 2: the Cleveland brown Cream, a nice cream, an eggshell. All right, 1835 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,000 Speaker 2: when we come back, we will open up the mailbag. 1836 01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,760 Speaker 2: The Browns will be on the field twelve minutes. Guys 1837 01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,280 Speaker 2: making their way out now, but practice officially begins in 1838 01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:24,679 Speaker 2: twelve minutes. Here from the Green Brier Nathan Scurg, Jim Donovan, 1839 01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,720 Speaker 2: you're listening to Cleve Browns Daily, brought to you by 1840 01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:27,519 Speaker 2: bally Bet. 1841 01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:35,080 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Greenbriar Resort in training Camp twenty 1842 01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,280 Speaker 1: twenty four. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, front to you 1843 01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,280 Speaker 1: by bally Bet, now live in Ohio on eight. 1844 01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:42,919 Speaker 8: To fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1845 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,920 Speaker 4: It's incredible. Get babe, what do you got? You got 1846 01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:51,800 Speaker 4: the the voice guy just hanging out at your whim. 1847 01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:53,200 Speaker 4: You're beckon call. 1848 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:54,920 Speaker 6: Thanks to Kevin's help. A lot of work going on 1849 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:55,679 Speaker 6: behind the scenes. 1850 01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:55,960 Speaker 5: Guys. 1851 01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:57,519 Speaker 4: We got full on rejoins. 1852 01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,200 Speaker 2: We are live at the Green bry Bro listen it 1853 01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,840 Speaker 2: in time before practice began, I could say I'd said 1854 01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:06,120 Speaker 2: that's official. That's a very very good job practice quarterbacks 1855 01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:09,120 Speaker 2: out here we see Deshaun throwing as wrong with Jameis Winston, 1856 01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,000 Speaker 2: Dorian Thompson, Robinson and Tyler Hunt. 1857 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,640 Speaker 6: I don't think Jamis left. I feel like Jamis has 1858 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,800 Speaker 6: been here the entire summer. No, no, no, I mean 1859 01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,519 Speaker 6: in Berea, Like I don't think every every Eve was 1860 01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,280 Speaker 6: there every day. Maybe he was, you know, I mean 1861 01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,920 Speaker 6: the team was on you know shutdowns. Yeah, that's a 1862 01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:27,680 Speaker 6: nice way to put it. 1863 01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:28,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1864 01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,200 Speaker 6: Uh, I saw him and like the first day we 1865 01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,240 Speaker 6: could come back in the building, he was there. 1866 01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,120 Speaker 2: There, he was there, he is And so we're gonna 1867 01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,040 Speaker 2: get ready here in about six minutes. But now it's 1868 01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:38,960 Speaker 2: time to bring Gibbe in. 1869 01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:39,880 Speaker 4: He already. 1870 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,840 Speaker 2: Little mail bag mail Bag Thursday presented by Cross Country Mortgage, 1871 01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:45,840 Speaker 2: the official mortgage partner of the Cleveland Browns. When it 1872 01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,000 Speaker 2: comes to financing, we always get you home at CCM 1873 01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,639 Speaker 2: dot com. Today, allow me to pay the bills. Equal 1874 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,720 Speaker 2: Housing Opportunity n M l S three zero two nine. 1875 01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,599 Speaker 6: Give me all right, whatever we don't get to today, 1876 01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,439 Speaker 6: we're gonna get We're gonna do maybe a little bit 1877 01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:03,360 Speaker 6: every day, some segments every day where we take your questions. Uh, 1878 01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:07,080 Speaker 6: Matt shirts, Do Nathan or the boys have any superstitions 1879 01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:07,720 Speaker 6: on game day? 1880 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:10,280 Speaker 8: I do? 1881 01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:11,599 Speaker 3: I am. 1882 01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,080 Speaker 4: Oh boy, I'm excited. I like this. 1883 01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:14,479 Speaker 3: I am. 1884 01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:15,880 Speaker 5: I do now. Yeah. 1885 01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:20,880 Speaker 3: When I'm driving down, when we're at home. When I'm 1886 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:28,280 Speaker 3: driving down, I listen to Mass on the radio Friday, 1887 01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:29,400 Speaker 3: Saint Patrick. 1888 01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,200 Speaker 6: I know you're a big fan of radio. 1889 01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:31,639 Speaker 3: St. 1890 01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,479 Speaker 5: Patrick's Cathedral in New York. 1891 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,759 Speaker 3: I listen to really yeah, and the cardinal there, Cardinal O'Connor, 1892 01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:42,679 Speaker 3: he is saying the Mass, and it brings me kind 1893 01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,080 Speaker 3: of some peace that we're gonna be all right. 1894 01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:46,400 Speaker 4: I love this. 1895 01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:47,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I do it. 1896 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:48,320 Speaker 4: I love it. 1897 01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:48,880 Speaker 5: I didn't. 1898 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:50,680 Speaker 4: I didn't have that on the big go card No 1899 01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,120 Speaker 4: serious Cardinals nine? 1900 01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,600 Speaker 5: Is that what it is? The Catholic channel? How about it? 1901 01:23:58,160 --> 01:23:59,840 Speaker 5: I like that. I have thrown you for a loop. 1902 01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:00,280 Speaker 4: You have. 1903 01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,160 Speaker 2: I'm and by the way, I know Saint Patrick's deal, 1904 01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:04,719 Speaker 2: but I don't know the name of the cardinal who's 1905 01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:05,840 Speaker 2: presiding over the mask. 1906 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,400 Speaker 4: So that's I've learned. I've learned a great deal today. 1907 01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:13,040 Speaker 2: Interesting, So I mine is if IF for example, although 1908 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:17,080 Speaker 2: it hasn't worked out at times, but I will where 1909 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,880 Speaker 2: when we went to Houston on Christmas Eve and we won, 1910 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:22,960 Speaker 2: I wore the same outfit exactly for the playoff game, 1911 01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:24,920 Speaker 2: so it didn't win. So I've tried to do some 1912 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,160 Speaker 2: things like that good luck outfits if I have, like a, 1913 01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:28,800 Speaker 2: I have a few outfits that I feel like have 1914 01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,599 Speaker 2: been pretty successful, and I'll roll with them until obviously, yeah, 1915 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:33,840 Speaker 2: we get a loss, but that's it. 1916 01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,439 Speaker 6: Our good friend Rick Amador with the logjam of defensive tackle, 1917 01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,439 Speaker 6: do you see them keeping Ika Shelby, Dalvin Hurst and 1918 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,360 Speaker 6: m H Junior or is for the number? 1919 01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:46,639 Speaker 5: I don't know what the number is, so I think 1920 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:47,760 Speaker 5: you were talking. 1921 01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,639 Speaker 4: I think it'll be five. I think it'll be five. 1922 01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:52,960 Speaker 2: But he didn't even Quintin Jefferson in there, and I 1923 01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,680 Speaker 2: think Quentin Jefferson is probably a pretty good bet to 1924 01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,400 Speaker 2: make this team. I think you're looking at ultimately I'll 1925 01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,160 Speaker 2: throw Jeffers sit in there, but I think you're looking 1926 01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:06,760 Speaker 2: I think Dalvin and my call are absolutely it. I 1927 01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,920 Speaker 2: probably think Shelby and Quentin Jefferson are in, and then 1928 01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 2: it could be Eca or or Maurice Hurst for the 1929 01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:16,000 Speaker 2: last spot. I love Maurice Hurst, so I'm gonna say 1930 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:17,479 Speaker 2: I'm gonna look at it a little different with say 1931 01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,519 Speaker 2: those two. I think for three spots you have Shelby, 1932 01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,879 Speaker 2: Quentin Jefferson, Maurice Hurst, and Siaki Ega. 1933 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:26,880 Speaker 5: When healthy makes place. Yes, I love the times. 1934 01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,320 Speaker 4: I love him a big fan. 1935 01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:29,800 Speaker 1: B K. 1936 01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,040 Speaker 6: What position groups are you most excited to watch during 1937 01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:34,560 Speaker 6: this training camp at preseason? 1938 01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:40,360 Speaker 5: I am excited to see the wide receivers. I really am. 1939 01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:44,960 Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm into looking at Judy and to 1940 01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,240 Speaker 3: see the development of the others. Elijah Moore, we know 1941 01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:52,160 Speaker 3: what we haven't, Cooper Tillman, David Bell, people like that, 1942 01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,559 Speaker 3: anybody else that kind of pops in there. 1943 01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,559 Speaker 5: But I think the wide receivers and how they'll be used. 1944 01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,320 Speaker 2: Yes, the offense, I like that, and I'll throw another 1945 01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,880 Speaker 2: name in the wide receiver. Always loves sealing Jaylen Dard 1946 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:04,719 Speaker 2: in this time of the year, becuse he usually shines 1947 01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,080 Speaker 2: here in the shorts and hopefully can stay healthy. But 1948 01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,760 Speaker 2: the guy Matt Landers six ' four out of Arkansas's 1949 01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,439 Speaker 2: bounced around the league some time with Seattle Carolina, but 1950 01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,120 Speaker 2: he can flat out run and he made a lot. 1951 01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:17,400 Speaker 4: I think seven was the number. 1952 01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,559 Speaker 2: I was told by a high ranking Browns football official 1953 01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,280 Speaker 2: that he had seven catches of more than fifty yards 1954 01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:26,040 Speaker 2: in OTAs in mini camp, And so I'm curious, can 1955 01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:27,559 Speaker 2: can that keep going? 1956 01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:28,439 Speaker 4: Can that keep going? 1957 01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:28,559 Speaker 5: Oh? 1958 01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:33,080 Speaker 4: But bringing him back retired, he's only here with us now. Yes, indeed, 1959 01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:34,640 Speaker 4: I'm curious about that. 1960 01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,280 Speaker 2: And then the other I'd say was in this is 1961 01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,800 Speaker 2: a passing camp in many ways, seeing the corners. I 1962 01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:42,960 Speaker 2: really want to see the cornerback room because I think 1963 01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:44,840 Speaker 2: we feel, you know, the top four, and I'll throw 1964 01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:47,639 Speaker 2: Cam Mitchell in as number four. I think are pretty 1965 01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:53,719 Speaker 2: set beyond that, though you have again fierce competition. Tony 1966 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:57,160 Speaker 2: Brown is here, who's a good corner and a great 1967 01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,560 Speaker 2: special teams player. Justin Hardy back in Cleveland, he is 1968 01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,360 Speaker 2: a great special teams player. Khalif f Alassi was on 1969 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,280 Speaker 2: the fifty three all year last year and they think 1970 01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,360 Speaker 2: is an elite young man corner. The guy we kind 1971 01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:12,920 Speaker 2: of found in the last preseason game against Yeah, Kansas 1972 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,960 Speaker 2: City took him right off there when they cut him, 1973 01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:16,479 Speaker 2: they thought they were getting back. We signed him in 1974 01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,280 Speaker 2: the fifth three and we drafted Miles Harden, who was 1975 01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:21,680 Speaker 2: out of South Dakosta in this year's draft. So if 1976 01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:25,040 Speaker 2: you think about four plus four, that's eight. The max 1977 01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:26,679 Speaker 2: you can keep is probably six. 1978 01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:29,320 Speaker 4: And here we go. Those are the. 1979 01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:34,240 Speaker 2: Sounds of training camp twenty twenty four stretching about to begin. 1980 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,519 Speaker 2: There's your guy, Joka bouncing around over there, number six, 1981 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:38,240 Speaker 2: your favorite. 1982 01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:39,400 Speaker 5: I love you? 1983 01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,920 Speaker 4: How could you not? How could you not so good? 1984 01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:45,160 Speaker 4: Let's see real quick. 1985 01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:50,000 Speaker 6: David Gray, in our final minute here ranked these candidates 1986 01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:53,200 Speaker 6: Zigura from most to the least likely, one being the 1987 01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:56,439 Speaker 6: most likely for being the least for being stuck with 1988 01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:01,479 Speaker 6: you for three days? Yours truly, Jeff Jerr, Bo's dad 1989 01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:04,600 Speaker 6: or Pedro? And when do you start walking home? So 1990 01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,000 Speaker 6: who do I want to be stuck with me in order, 1991 01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:14,479 Speaker 6: uh most to least likely? Yes, well, I mean I 1992 01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,240 Speaker 6: would be I have no problem Bo's dad. 1993 01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,320 Speaker 2: I'd be very nervous around, I think, because he's very 1994 01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,040 Speaker 2: much like the Marlborough man, kind of runing a ranch 1995 01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:21,799 Speaker 2: out in Montana's. 1996 01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:23,800 Speaker 4: He was a very old school guy who might have 1997 01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:24,559 Speaker 4: any time. 1998 01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:26,360 Speaker 2: For any of my nonsense. So I'd be very nervous 1999 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,560 Speaker 2: to be with Bo's dad. My own dad would be. 2000 01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:31,880 Speaker 2: I think he would be a handful double j is. 2001 01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:36,400 Speaker 2: While he is a dastardly man. Our conflict is resolved. 2002 01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,320 Speaker 2: I came out victorious, and I can say that he's 2003 01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,240 Speaker 2: a fine, fine human being. And then I'd love to 2004 01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:40,560 Speaker 2: be with you. 2005 01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:42,679 Speaker 4: Gimme we have that. Would it be dull? 2006 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:46,679 Speaker 2: I'd be fine. Yeah, the Atlanta Airport entertains me. My dad, 2007 01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,880 Speaker 2: you or Jeff Jarrett would all be great. Bo's dad, 2008 01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:52,080 Speaker 2: I'd be. I'd be very nervous about Nathan. That whole adventure, 2009 01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:55,519 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, sounds like a movie. It was, doesn't 2010 01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:57,519 Speaker 2: people are still stranded? 2011 01:28:58,040 --> 01:28:58,400 Speaker 3: It was. 2012 01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,920 Speaker 4: It was something out of a horror movie. It was 2013 01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:03,479 Speaker 4: a pretty wild scene. 2014 01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:04,479 Speaker 5: All right. 2015 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:05,160 Speaker 4: I got a camera. 2016 01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:07,080 Speaker 6: We'll start sprinkling and some more. 2017 01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:07,280 Speaker 5: I know. 2018 01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:10,479 Speaker 6: Bobby sent us a bunch, Soobby, we'll have a little fun. 2019 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:11,519 Speaker 5: Tomorrow with it as well. 2020 01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:13,439 Speaker 2: Bobby came out to the wrestling show. He came out 2021 01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,680 Speaker 2: there and supported me. Bobby appreciate it. I appreciate it. 2022 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:16,720 Speaker 2: I was hiding from it. 2023 01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,800 Speaker 4: Bobby's the best. Don't need to hide from all right? 2024 01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:21,720 Speaker 5: Really was it? 2025 01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:26,080 Speaker 2: Brown's are on the field stretching practice beginning imminently? That 2026 01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,920 Speaker 2: really means the twenty twenty four season is underway. Here 2027 01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,280 Speaker 2: at the Green Briar, Nathan's Gera, Jim Donovan, so much 2028 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 2: more to come on Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you 2029 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:36,559 Speaker 2: by bally. 2030 01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:43,080 Speaker 1: Bet broadcasting live from the Greenbriar Resort and Training Camp, 2031 01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:46,519 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 2032 01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:49,479 Speaker 1: you by bally Bet, now live in Ohio on eight 2033 01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,240 Speaker 1: to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 2034 01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:01,160 Speaker 2: All right, stretching is happening. We got some Browns working 2035 01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:03,920 Speaker 2: off to the side today. The Anthony Bell, Nick Chubb, 2036 01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:08,280 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett, cam Mitchell, Jerry Judy, the Chief. All the 2037 01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,240 Speaker 2: chief looks to be in fine spirits again. A lot 2038 01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:12,439 Speaker 2: of those guys not on the pup. So just taking 2039 01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:15,800 Speaker 2: it easy as we ease our way into action here 2040 01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:17,120 Speaker 2: at the Greenbrier. 2041 01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,280 Speaker 4: Jim, So, here we go, Right, here we go, Nathan, 2042 01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:21,360 Speaker 4: We are ready to go. 2043 01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,280 Speaker 5: We are watching every move that it makes. 2044 01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:28,320 Speaker 3: That's that's what happens when the Browns open up training camp. Everybody, 2045 01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,679 Speaker 3: you know, you look at every possible Oh yeah, it happened, 2046 01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,120 Speaker 3: you know, put it underneath the microscope. 2047 01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:36,639 Speaker 2: All right, Well, yay, I had a lot of fun 2048 01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:38,840 Speaker 2: it's this great time flies when you're having fun. We're 2049 01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,200 Speaker 2: just getting started here at the Green Brier. The Browns 2050 01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,200 Speaker 2: training camp is just getting started, and we will have 2051 01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,000 Speaker 2: a ton of coverage for you here live. We are 2052 01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,040 Speaker 2: on site. We're the only radio show to do that. 2053 01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:52,280 Speaker 2: We will bring you everything from Brown's training camp at 2054 01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,799 Speaker 2: the Greenbrier. We'll be back again tomorrow at one o'clock 2055 01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:58,439 Speaker 2: for the Great Gibbe for the voice of your Cleveland 2056 01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:00,600 Speaker 2: Browns Gym Donovan. 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