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Speaker 3: All right, let's go big show and let me welcome

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Speaker 3: in my co host.

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Speaker 4: Team is season right man, Magic City Monday. Feels good

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Speaker 4: to be back, and bid man, I'm feeling good. Thank

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Speaker 4: you for asking. Uh, you know, stuff is going around,

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Speaker 4: everybody feeling well and so kind of hit me, nicked

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Speaker 4: up the family a little bit. Everybody's fine though, and

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Speaker 4: uh man, great weekend of football too.

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Speaker 1: Until last game. Yeah, last game that was just you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It was just typical Chargers, I guess.

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Speaker 3: But it just charge us.

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Speaker 1: It really didn't. It was just the Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: typical I meant, but to us it was a lot

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Speaker 1: of listen, you can't, you can't with them all. No,

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Speaker 1: you can with them all.

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Speaker 4: And I tell you what in uh justin Herbert right now,

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Speaker 4: he got to be flinching every time I think somebody

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Speaker 4: coming after everybody.

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Speaker 1: We got, Hey, just what we got so much to

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Speaker 1: get to? We are gonna touch on that. Lynn Jones,

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Speaker 1: a reporter down in Jacksonville. Ye talk about that. Uh also, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we all talk about it. Boy, Matt Lafloor, like, oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness, gracious, what happened in Philly?

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Speaker 3: We got that? Uh yeah, a lot of good stuff coming.

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Speaker 4: Up, man, DK, We got a good game coming up

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Speaker 4: to tonight, hope, well hopefully another good one walking in.

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Speaker 4: He forgot that he forgot to play football in two

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Speaker 4: weeks that he didn't know.

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Speaker 1: That's a big comeback for them to be able to

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Speaker 1: get him back, and that's gonna be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: how this plays out. They're outdoors in Pittsburgh. It's not home,

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Speaker 1: indoors comfortable, the one nine in a row. There's always

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Speaker 1: that little thing about winning too much, like we're gonna

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Speaker 1: win ten in a row, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: You feel like too good to be true? Right, that

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Speaker 3: at some point something's gonna go wrong because we won

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Speaker 4: It's so mad to man, we could have saved some

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Speaker 4: of the say, won six and then run four all

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Speaker 1: Super You know this because you do some Dodger stuff

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Speaker 3: The days they score fifteen runs, the next n down

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Speaker 3: for two.

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Speaker 1: You already you already know down for two you get

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Speaker 3: Am I right? You already know it?

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Speaker 1: Liked we couldn't go like six six, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, not the triple six, I mean little, but

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Speaker 1: you get it. Uh So that's why sometimes winning a

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Speaker 1: the whole thing against them.

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Speaker 3: And the Broncos had that run.

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Speaker 1: That's the other thing on there. You see that the

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Speaker 1: texts they get to finish the line.

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Speaker 3: What did they say?

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Speaker 1: And six in the postseason on the road, like they've

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Speaker 1: never won a roll postseason game.

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Speaker 3: So that's gonna be interesting about everything.

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Speaker 1: But all right, we'll get all of that for us.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in the odd couple crew. We wouldn't be able

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Speaker 1: to do this fine radio program without them. Rob g

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Speaker 1: got Lee is our producer today, what doubt we got

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Speaker 3: Elijah in like six weeks. He's here. Let me tell

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Speaker 3: you about who enjoys the vacation. No, no, come on,

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Speaker 1: I like that, Elijah. Elijah gonna get up out of here,

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Speaker 3: She's in for Alex today? What's up? Alex? Sons out

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Speaker 3: buns on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Can we can we talk about it? We don't have

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Speaker 1: Sontagged me and and Kelvin in it? Sehn, John, We

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Speaker 1: got a lot to get to. We'll talk lay about

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Speaker 1: text messages. Go look, go look at X all right, okay,

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Speaker 1: literally because I'm ana cry. No, we're not doing any

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Speaker 1: of that, all right, Let's just go here and the

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Speaker 1: game obviously on Saturday, the Packers and the Bears.

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Speaker 3: The Bears, and what a game for the Ages.

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Speaker 1: Once again, a Bear scored twenty five points fourth quarter

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Speaker 3: Points in a fourth quarter in a playoff game. Crazy.

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Speaker 3: They were down twenty one to three at the half. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, we saw the Falcons blow a twenty eight

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Speaker 1: And the Bears, you know, they tried a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: They went up for fourth downs early on. Nothing was

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Speaker 3: I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe live sorry,

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Speaker 3: and I'm even more of a believer because of his.

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Speaker 1: Wherewith all to not give up like struggle, struggle, struggle, Like.

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Speaker 3: It's easy to be like, we can't just suit. It's

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Speaker 1: Play where he's rolling to his left there's a guy

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Speaker 1: the greatest throws I've seen. And I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: hyperbleel what I'm just talking about for the moment the season,

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Speaker 4: Because I was a glass half full guy when his

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Speaker 4: rookie season, just like, I'm like, dude, he had a

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Speaker 3: Ain't what we talked about?

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Speaker 4: Lost them three or four games that rookie seasons was terrible.

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Speaker 1: And there were people, let's not forget the Justin Fields

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Speaker 3: Where are those people today?

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Speaker 1: They cannot honestly see what they've seen from this guy

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Speaker 1: and this team that refuses I don't care what the

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying it's that stuff that I'm really

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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna say it. I'm a believer.

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Speaker 1: I told you this earlier in the year. I was

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Speaker 3: And the scary part.

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Speaker 1: Is is that this is his first year with Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 3: You think he's done learning or growing.

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Speaker 1: That's the scary I know you do, but you you

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Speaker 3: This is year one.

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Speaker 1: He's going to clean up a lot of stuff. There

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: They can lose on Sunday or whatever, right and if

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Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying, like you have.

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Speaker 1: Something to build on one year together, that's all I'm doing.

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Speaker 3: So so I'm gonna work backwards.

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Speaker 4: He The reason why I said I hope you're wrong,

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Speaker 4: but you're obviously right in that Ben just is because

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Speaker 4: because the things that Ben Johnson just having, you know,

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Speaker 3: The scary part is.

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Speaker 4: And this is where you and I when we were

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Speaker 4: They got weapons everywhere, They had the number two rushing attack, Like,

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Speaker 4: So if you just look at the numbers, they're not

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Speaker 4: They got some balls that they got some strips, but

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Speaker 4: That throw you talk about running full speed left bunkle

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Speaker 4: the numbers. That's an all time playoff throw period. I

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Speaker 4: don't care who the person that not all that was

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Speaker 4: an all times throw for Caleb. Now, that was an

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Speaker 3: You would would amazing throw.

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Speaker 4: And I do think that is what has made again

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Speaker 4: if you're a OCD like buttoned up to the tu

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Speaker 4: I like a Ben Johnson, You're like, that's what that

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Speaker 4: you're that guy?

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Speaker 3: You are this guy.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's for times where he would be like, man,

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Speaker 4: if I get eighty percent of that guy regularly, we

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Speaker 4: so if they losing the Rams, there's not no shaming.

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Speaker 4: They beat them ahead of schedule, and the Lions, the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about the Eagles and they're out of

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Speaker 4: Happy twenty three to nineteen. They lose to the forty

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Speaker 3: They don't.

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Speaker 3: And no, that's not the case. They're not passing the

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Speaker 3: Do you know many teams would die or have been

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Speaker 4: Critical pass is rob Boom right there. Jalen Hurts might

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Speaker 4: Okay, Derek Henry's going crazy, but he fumble like it

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Speaker 3: Just saying I'm not dealing with you today. I'm just

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Speaker 4: Just trying to, you know, make sure people are feeling

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Speaker 3: No, I was mad at that weeks ago. I'm not

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Speaker 6: And the Eagles, once you take something away from them,

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Speaker 4: Way, this is what I mean by that offensive coordinator

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Speaker 4: and ex players who know this stuff. They said, that

442
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Speaker 4: was the most basic, rudimentary, elementary. Hey, let's just run

443
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Speaker 4: four verticals, rob every last receiver just ran straight. It

444
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Speaker 4: wasn't fourth and forty one. It was fourth and eleven.

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Speaker 1: They didn't no crossing routes, no hitching somebody open.

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Speaker 4: You just hig And that's what they've been all season.

447
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Speaker 4: And A to me, are underutilizing Jalen Hurts. You, all right,

448
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 4: he looks great when actually is more on his shoulders,

449
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Speaker 4: when he's passing, when he's running, when he's showing you

450
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Speaker 4: the full talent that he has.

451
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Speaker 3: To me, they're underutilizing how good he is.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get to this.

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Speaker 1: We've been teasing it all night. Yeah, we're talking about

458
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Speaker 1: it a little bit, but go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, h Lynn Jones, I want

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Speaker 4: to make sure I got that correct. Jackson Mackelville Free Pressed,

462
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Speaker 4: which is a black newspaper for twenty plus years, a

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Speaker 4: black newspaper in Duval County.

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Speaker 3: And she was the reporter who did this, who said

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Speaker 3: this twenty you.

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Speaker 7: Congratulations on your success, young man. You hold your head up,

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Speaker 7: all right. You guys have had a most magnificent season.

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Speaker 7: He did a great job out there today.

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Speaker 2: Should you just hold your head up? Okay?

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Speaker 7: And ladies and gentlemen, douvall you don't one. All right,

471
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Speaker 7: keep it going. We got another season, okay, take care

472
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Speaker 7: of much continued success to you and the entire team.

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Speaker 3: She's still going, did she say we? Is she on

474
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Speaker 3: the team?

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Speaker 4: Big time on the team unless she ain't French. I

476
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Speaker 4: don't think I'm gonna tell you. I want so yeah,

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Speaker 4: so that was her talking to Live Con after the game. There, Well,

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Speaker 4: you go first, because there's a I'll just say this no,

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, go ahead ahead, because I.

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Speaker 1: Did from a journalist, okay, someone who went to journalism school.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm a trained journalist. This is a no.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: People can make excuses always refreshing and this and that

484
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Speaker 1: she sounded like a fan.

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Speaker 3: She did not even ask a question.

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Speaker 1: Sound like she did was but she didn't ask a

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Speaker 1: question that wasn't a question at a press conference. And

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Speaker 1: there was a guy from the AP who said, you know,

489
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Speaker 1: like fake media like that. That's not if she has

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Speaker 1: a relationship with Cone and the press conference is over.

491
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Speaker 1: When you go to the and you pull them to

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Speaker 1: the side and say, you know, hey, Liam man, I

493
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Speaker 1: know what you put into this man, you know, hanging there.

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Speaker 1: I know it's tough to lose the game. I'm with

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Speaker 1: that you have personal relationships with people, right, So I'm cool.

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Speaker 1: I get that this was out of pocket. I'm stop. Oh,

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Speaker 1: just on TV being nice. We got so much negativity

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Speaker 1: in the world that that it's.

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Speaker 3: Great to have some positivity.

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Speaker 1: And all these other non journalists chiming in and trying

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Speaker 1: to tell people that this is right. No, it's not

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Speaker 1: not for journalism, not for journalists.

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Speaker 3: This is not what we teach in journalism school. We

504
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Speaker 3: are not a part of the story.

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Speaker 1: She made herself a part of the story, which is

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Speaker 1: not what you want to do.

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Speaker 4: This is how I would count it. That's why I

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Speaker 4: wanted you to go first. Nothing you said was incorrect.

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Speaker 4: You're dead on you know.

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Speaker 3: I know this.

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Speaker 4: I've covered teams and everything you said is accurate. You

512
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Speaker 4: want to be impartial. It's the same thing of like,

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Speaker 4: uh not coming in there.

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Speaker 3: She could have said.

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Speaker 4: The opposite side would have been she says something negative, right, Coach,

516
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Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: That was the worst let down ever.

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Speaker 4: You guys are terrible because it's getting personally, you putting

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Speaker 4: feelings into it.

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Speaker 3: Can I offer this?

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Speaker 4: You mentioned it small local black outlet, embedded in the community.

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Speaker 3: That's literally what they're there for.

523
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Speaker 4: Every city has those super small circulation might only be

524
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Speaker 4: a thousand, five thousand people who buy it and read it,

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Speaker 4: and they're embedded in the community. And she talked about

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Speaker 4: said she said on this local TV station. There after

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Speaker 4: of course this happened, they're Channel four there. The entire

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Speaker 4: city of this town, our team, our city, our coach.

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Speaker 4: We were overwhelmed. And she goes on, I wasn't even

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Speaker 4: going to attend the press conference, but I was talking

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Speaker 4: to a young man. He said, ma'am, Lisa, you need

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Speaker 4: to go ahead and attend this press conference. So she

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Speaker 4: goes on and on. So my point is, is there

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Speaker 4: something that matters? Meaning she wasn't for the La Times,

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Speaker 4: the New York Times, Detroit Free Press, these massive islands.

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Speaker 3: She's local, community based. What does she say.

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Speaker 4: She didn't even ask a question, and she said wui,

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Speaker 4: she said wie city.

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Speaker 1: No that she's not the mayor. She does not belong

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Speaker 1: in that setting. That's working media. Who's talking to a

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Speaker 1: coach after a game? What is she congrat They just

542
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Speaker 1: lost the playoff game and she's congratulating them on what,

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Speaker 1: seriously like it's out of pocket. I can't find any

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Speaker 1: situation circumstance that makes that right.

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Speaker 3: If she has a personal.

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Speaker 1: Relationship with him and she wants to say that off

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Speaker 1: the podium to him to his face, I got no

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Speaker 1: issue with that. We are human in that setting, in

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Speaker 1: that circumstance. That's not what that's for.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to offer, you know, just a different perspective,

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Speaker 4: but just from a professional journalist, or you're right, and

552
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Speaker 4: that is where you take the opportunity to write them

553
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Speaker 4: next time you see him, and she talked about I've

554
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Speaker 4: interviewed Barack Obama all these then there's an opportunity for

555
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Speaker 4: you to say that on you know, to him privately

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Speaker 4: in a different manner. This especially after a playoff game

557
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Speaker 4: of all, people are trying to get to it.

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Speaker 3: What happened?

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Speaker 4: What could you have did it differently? What did you

560
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Speaker 4: see on that third down? Do Trevor Lawrence play great?

561
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Speaker 4: Did he turn the corners? There's something There's a lot

562
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Speaker 4: of big pressing issues and brig questions that that's what

563
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Speaker 4: that time is for.

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Speaker 3: So I get it.

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Speaker 4: I'm toltally, I Toske's why I said, there's no argument there.

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Speaker 4: I was trying walka media. That's a waste of time.

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Speaker 4: She didn't even ask a question. No, I try to

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Speaker 4: find something. But are you listening' right when you said

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Speaker 4: what you said?

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Speaker 1: All right, let's turn off sites to the Green Bay

571
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Speaker 1: Packers and we talked about it.

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Speaker 3: Caleb made all the throws, He did everything to win

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Speaker 3: the game.

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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, but that's a major choke job

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Speaker 1: by the Green Bay Packers. It's just it is, and

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Speaker 1: two things in this situation work out.

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Speaker 3: They choked and guess what Caleb did.

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Speaker 1: He took advantage of it and made all the throws

579
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Speaker 1: and everything that you needed to do.

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Speaker 3: He is to win the game. But Matt Lafleur all

581
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Speaker 3: this question.

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Speaker 1: They're reporting a developing story that they're gonna give them

583
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Speaker 1: a new deal and that you.

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Speaker 3: Know, he got one year left.

585
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Speaker 1: And the whole idea of having a lame duck coach

586
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Speaker 1: doesn't always sit well.

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Speaker 3: You know, it.

588
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: Doesn't work well for coaches because players know your contract status,

589
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Speaker 1: so I don't have to really I can tune you out.

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Speaker 3: You might not be here next year. What am I

591
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Speaker 3: worried about like that?

592
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Speaker 1: So I get either you got to give them some

593
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Speaker 1: sort of extension or you got to move on. And

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Speaker 1: if I'm the Green Bay Packers, I'm moving on because

595
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Speaker 1: to me, it just seems as if it has been

596
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Speaker 1: a disappointment. They remind me a lot of the Ravens,

597
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Speaker 1: and they don't have the talent of the Ravens. No, no, no,

598
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Speaker 1: but but I'm just saying, like the Ravens are I

599
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Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever I picked the Green Bay

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Speaker 1: Packers to win the Super Bowl, except I got them

601
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Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl this year. And when you

602
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Speaker 1: look at it now, when you start to look at

603
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Speaker 1: these situations, you're up twenty one to three. They blew

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Speaker 1: the game at the end of the year at to Chicago,

605
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Speaker 1: right that was another game they had wrapped up. There's

606
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Speaker 1: just been a lot of those things, and he hasn't

607
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Speaker 1: done that well postseason wise as well. Don't about I

608
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Speaker 1: got the rundown running out for you. So I just

609
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm definitely here. They need to make a decision

610
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Speaker 1: on Matt Lafleur. And if I'm the Packers that lost

611
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Speaker 1: things so much.

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Speaker 4: And.

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Speaker 1: You have talent, you were, you had the game, if

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Speaker 1: you played it right. You didn't play it right in

615
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Speaker 1: the second half. You just didn't. And this has happened

616
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Speaker 1: way too often to feel good about going forward. And

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Speaker 1: I get it. It's hard to find coaches, but sometimes,

618
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Speaker 1: and I've talked to you about this before, sometimes you

619
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Speaker 1: need to make a move to get to that next level,

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Speaker 1: get to that next step. And I hate to always

621
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Speaker 1: keep bringing it up, but Tonyngee, no, no, no, but

622
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Speaker 1: what Tony Dungee is wanted me, and I say, Larry Brown.

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Speaker 1: Larry Brown is another one, and you get what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: and I.

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Speaker 3: Right there on the cuss.

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Speaker 1: But but people are afraid of the unknown, and I

627
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Speaker 1: keep telling you be afraid of the known more than

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Speaker 1: the unknown. And that's where I'm at. Matt Lafleur should

629
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Speaker 1: be fired by the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 4: So here's why that sentiment. If you're watching this, you

631
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Speaker 4: could understand that. Let's go back through some of these things.

632
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Speaker 4: Twenty nineteen loses in the NFC Championship to the forty

633
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Speaker 4: nine ers.

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Speaker 3: They were old, they were just outmatch.

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Speaker 4: It was his first go at it, so you know,

636
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Speaker 4: you kind of maybe cut them some slack rookie season,

637
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Speaker 4: got to the postseason, we look good. Hey, you know

638
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 4: we're gonna be better next year. Twenty twenty, this is

639
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 4: the bad one. Remember this one? Down by eight rob

640
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Speaker 4: this one makes none of the sense. Lee down by

641
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Speaker 4: eight points with just a little bit over two minutes left,

642
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Speaker 4: they kick a field goal on fourth and goal from

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Speaker 4: the eight yard line instead of going the touchdown, instead

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Speaker 4: of going for what, like I'm all jokes aside, what

645
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Speaker 4: what's the rationale.

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Speaker 3: He thought they were gonna get the ball back, which

647
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Speaker 3: is ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: When is the rationale if you don't get it right? Cool,

649
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Speaker 4: they're on the eight.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, there's your best chance to score a

651
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Speaker 1: touchdown the field.

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Speaker 3: And they're on the eight yard line.

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Speaker 4: Get the ball back again, maybe midfield, and you got

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Speaker 4: whcrack at it?

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Speaker 1: I agree, So it didn't It didn't make sense to

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Speaker 1: kick it there because if you failed at they ate,

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Speaker 1: maybe you make a turnover there. You have it right,

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Speaker 1: But the idea that you do that is bad. And

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Speaker 1: that was his coaching decision. That was about one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: So that one they thought they never got the ball back,

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Speaker 4: by the way, and that cast him that game. They

662
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Speaker 4: lose thirty one to twenty six. We already know. Brady

663
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Speaker 4: goes on to win the Super Bowl, and then again

664
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 4: the next year, noticing a trend. Year after year, they

665
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 4: lose thirteen to ten to the forty nine Ers and

666
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: some special teams.

667
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 3: They block a pun they block a feld.

668
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: They scored they scoring on on a block hundred percent.

669
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Speaker 1: And remember the forty nine ers, who is the quarterback?

670
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: That was Garoppolo. Garoppolo threw no touchdowns to that game

671
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: and they lost thirteen to ten at home. Yep, that

672
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: was another So I could go on and on.

673
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: They lose it.

674
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 4: A twenty twenty wildcard game versus the Giants, twenty four

675
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 4: to twenty.

676
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: Again same thing.

677
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 4: The sixth the Giants with the sixth seed, they had

678
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 4: a bunch of opportunities ice a game, but again conservative

679
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: play calling, not feeling comfortable, not knowing what to do

680
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 4: when to do it, and so again they just keep

681
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 4: having these opportunities slip.

682
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: And then we just saw last of the weekend Saturday.

683
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 4: You're up twenty one to three against a rival against

684
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 4: the first time, first year with the quarterback and this

685
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 4: pairing with that quarterback and that coach, you gotta win this.

686
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 4: We had a touchdown by the way, Christian Kirk from

687
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 4: ces Shroud Texans score here and second quarter.

688
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: We'll give you the more six y three.

689
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 4: But it just keeps happening with him, And I don't

690
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 4: know if he's overthinking it, if he's trying to be

691
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 4: too conservative, if he's trying to believe in his team.

692
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: You went from scoring all the time in the first

693
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: half to punt punt, punt, punt punt in the second half.

694
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 4: And even when you're up three, they just terrible play calling.

695
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: He consistently has done this, and this is absolutely why

696
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,239
Speaker 4: it is warranted to question will he ever be that good?

697
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: Because last point for me, Rob, you had Aaron Rodgers

698
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 4: the first half of your tenure. Then you had a

699
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 4: really good young quarterback in Jordan Love. I actually can't

700
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 4: tell how good you are. You follow what I mean.

701
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 4: You've had Aaron Rodgers when he was still good MVP exactly,

702
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 4: and then you go roll right into a good Jordan

703
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 4: Love who maybe there's some more steps to be taken

704
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 4: from him. I haven't seen you help him develop that yet,

705
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: you know, to take those next steps. He kind of

706
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 4: looks the same as he did as a rookie and

707
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 4: the same as he did last year. And so that's

708
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 4: why I don't know how good Matt Lafleur is at

709
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 4: this point. I know he met loveflops when the game

710
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 4: is on the line. I know all the Packers fans

711
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 4: are stommas are on the love floor when it comes

712
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 4: to the second half in crunch time with him.

713
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: So your your call for his job is warranted.

714
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 4: Listen, and last point, I know keeps last point, but

715
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 4: dagget everybody doesn't get eighteen years, John Harball nineteen years,

716
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin.

717
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: But even those two guys with the eighteen years, they

718
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,719
Speaker 1: won a super Bowl. And that's that extended there, Like like,

719
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: how long has Lafour been there?

720
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: Seven years?

721
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 4: How many years in the twenty nineteen? So yeah, seven

722
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 4: depends this season? You know, seven seasons? I think seven.

723
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: That's a long time not to win when you have talent,

724
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: you have a future Hall of Fame quarterback, really good

725
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: with MVP twice during your early coaching career. Like, there's

726
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: too many of those moments. And I'm just saying, you're

727
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: gonna wake up one day and ten years will go

728
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: by and you'll be like, well, how did we not

729
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: win again?

730
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: What happened? I'm gonna give you an example.

731
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 4: What's the difference between Lee and Rob him and Mike

732
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 4: McCarthy twelve and five three years in a row.

733
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 3: Loses in the postseason, but looks good.

734
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: Dak's an MVP candidate, finished second one of those years,

735
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 4: and last year you could say that was out all season.

736
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 4: If he was back, we would went twelve or five

737
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 4: again and maybe we'll get in the playoffs. You never

738
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, you could sell yourself on

739
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 4: why not bring him back?

740
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: What did he doing?

741
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 4: We were injured, guys were out, Michael was out for

742
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 4: a long time. I said it like you could have

743
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: you could say, what's because you ain't justify that before

744
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: and and uh and Mike McCarthy, you get what I.

745
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: Mean, losing the locker room.

746
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 6: It's whether or not the locker room believes in him,

747
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 6: and Mike McCarthy had lost the locker room and less.

748
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know, Base, that's a great point.

749
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: Lee, Lee, you're you're you're a Packers fan. Okay, Lee's

750
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: a Packers fan. And Lee, you know for you it

751
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: was per usual, am I right? Like another disappointing postseason loss.

752
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

753
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 6: As a Packers fan, we're all we all believe in

754
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 6: Murphy's law. Whatever will go wrong, whatever can go wrong,

755
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 6: will go wrong. As a Packers fan, no matter what,

756
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 6: we go up twenty one point one to three at

757
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 6: half time, we're gonna fight.

758
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: So what let me ask you, knowing their history and

759
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: what they're up twenty one to three, where where's your head?

760
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: Were you? Were you really going?

761
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 6: Was upset because all the Bears fans, I know, we're

762
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 6: texting me saying good game, congrats on the win, and

763
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 6: I was like, great, yeah, get out of.

764
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: It right that that? Oh yeah you congrats, you're all

765
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: gonna win all whatever. You're like, don't check now? How

766
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: dare you chext me in the second quarter with that? All? Right?

767
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: Are you? Is match? Your guy? Bett is my guy.

768
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: I love him. It's like a bad breakup.

769
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 6: It's like, you know you still love him, you want

770
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 6: to be with them, but there's just some circumstance, some

771
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 6: extenuating circumstance, something traumatic, that has happened that we can't

772
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 6: get past.

773
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you want to keep rolling with him?

774
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 5: I do, But that's fine, Listen. I do want to

775
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 5: keep him because I think he is the best coach

776
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 5: out there. I don't think Harball is the answer. If

777
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 5: if you ask me who I would rather keep Halfley

778
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 5: or the floor, I'd rather keep Halfley because I think

779
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 5: Halfley's going to be the guy out the door to

780
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 5: get a head coaching job. I think he might be

781
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 5: the real answer for head coach our defense coordinator Jeff Hafley.

782
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 5: If you had to give me a choice, I would

783
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 5: choose Halflee. I would love to keep him both, but

784
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 5: I don't think that's possible.

785
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: But the only issue is you gotta careful with well

786
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: who you're gonna get. Like I said, it's the unknown

787
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: that people are afraid of. And you've seen this a

788
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: couple of times and you start to go, God, are

789
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 1: we ever gonna get over the hump?

790
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 3: Like I don't, I don't know.

791
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: You're in Chicago, You're up twenty one to three, Like

792
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: that's a major You just had a team that gave

793
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: up twenty five points.

794
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: In the fourth quarter. That's crazy to a rival to

795
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 3: it just at home. I don't know what they're see.

796
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: They gotta fly. That was that grounding around? I thought

797
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: it was I thought it was him. I was like, like,

798
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: the guy came in way late. I thought it was Yeah.

799
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, boy, he was already down.

800
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 4: This is one thing, and we're switching gears here. We're

801
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 4: talking about this money night game.

802
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: Now.

803
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 4: This is what you worry is if it becomes just

804
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 4: pass heavy. This is what the Texans to your earlier point.

805
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 4: If you're the Steelers, you gotta keep running the ball,

806
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 4: keep him off base a little bit.

807
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you can't. Can't all passes because then they'll

808
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: just t off four.

809
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: You got yeah, yeah, yeah, it's seven to three, seven

810
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: minutes to go. You're You're in the game. You're where

811
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna be. You were three point fifty. All you

812
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: gonna do is get a field goal or got touchdown

813
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: and you go into that. That's all you need to do.

814
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: Now that ain't gonna happen on third and twenty one

815
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: the screen or running.

816
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: That's all I do. And get this out of here

817
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 3: and get this stop defense pretty well.

818
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, You want to

819
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: hear from you? Eight seven seven nine nine six sixty

820
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: three sixty nine.

821
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: Where are you on Matt Lafleura and the Packers? Are

822
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: you done?

823
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: Are you ready to see something else? You want a

824
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: new coach? I think he should be fired.

825
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: Ll not pushing back. He's with me, yeah, and that's okay.

826
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: Are you ready for a new coach in Green Bay?

827
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: Or bring him back? Let's run it back.

828
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: He only has to remember you gotta commit to him

829
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: with a condres not like he has two years and

830
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: three years left. He's only has one year left. And

831
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: if you do that, you're gonna have to sign them.

832
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: So that's the other part you have to make a

833
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: bigger commitment to Matt Lafleur,