1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Hey Ben Higgins, Hello, Ashley, Hike 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: and Nettie. How are you doing. I'm good. How are 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: you feeling feeling I'm feeling okay. I didn't sleep good 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: last night. I'm I'm I'm making it honestly. The recovery 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: is easier than I expected. But at the same time, 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm more uncomfortable because six weeks of crutching around just 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: a little tough. But it's not the biggest issue in 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: the world. Um, but yeah, I'm not sleeping great, so 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm just a little worn out all the time. That sucks. 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: What what kind of sleeper? Are you? Normally? A stomach 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: sleeper or back sleeper, a side sleeper. I'm I've always, 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: since I was a little kid, had a body pillow, 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: and so, oh yeah, so I have a body put 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: the pregnancy pillow, Oh I always have. I put my 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: right leg on that, I wrapped my arm, my right 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: arm around that in my left arm hanging straight to 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: my side, and I kind of put my pillow up 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: so my neck isn't that crunched. I kind of put 20 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: it up on my shoulders so like it's a weird position. 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: And I've also gotten really into these like bamboo like 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: pillows like the like years ago, Like they're like tempera pedic, 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: so they're a little skinnier. What about you, Well, I'm 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: just curious. Do you stay in that same very specific 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: position all night long? No? I don't think so I 26 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: wake up okay, that's you're falling asleep position. Yeah, and 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: then I usually I usually wake up on my back. 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: I had this fear as a kid that if I 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: didn't sleep on my back, um, it was like bad 30 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: for me. And so I've always taught myself this somehow 31 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: make it to my back, like, well, that's amazing. That's 32 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: been like a goal in my life for the past 33 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: couple of years, ever since I started seeing sleep wrinkles, 34 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: which is so not a concern of mine right now, 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: because I too, have not been able to sleep very 36 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: well consistently for the past couple of months. Because they 37 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: tell pregnant women that you shouldn't be sleeping on your 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: stomach or your back, But there's like conflicting reports out there. 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: Some say it's totally fine to do unless, like you 40 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: wake up uncomfortable, like your body will tell you if 41 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: it's not good for you. But anyway, I've been trying 42 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: to sleep on my side and it's just not very good. 43 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: I finally kind of fat because I've always been a 44 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: stomach sleeper, always um, and I kind of just found 45 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: a new position where it's just kind of like my 46 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: chest is down but my stomach I twist to the side. Yeah, 47 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: And I've been having crazy night sweats. It wasn't until like, 48 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: I mean consistently for weeks, and this week it's been 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: like every other night. So it's promising. But I'm telling you, 50 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: waking up so gross gross gross. Actually you are crushing 51 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: it right now. Jared is just living a dream. Oh 52 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: I know. And a couple of months ago, at the 53 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: beginning of it all, it smelled like urine. The sweat 54 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: smelled like urine. I got out of that, thank goodness. 55 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: But he felt so bad because one morning he was like, 56 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: oh God, did you what the It's just uh I 57 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: it isn't wild with the human body. Does like as 58 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: absolutely bizarre and you're you're a trooper through it. Well, Ashley, 59 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: we have a lot to do on this podcast. We're 60 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: gonna break down this week's episode of Bachelor and Paradise. 61 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: We're also gonna bring on Taitia Adams to help us 62 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 1: break down everything going on in Paradise and also uh 63 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: talk about with her about the Bachelorette, about My Heart 64 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: media festival. It's gonna be a crazy good podcast and 65 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: then we're gonna find a finish this thing with Bachelor headlines. 66 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: But before we do, Ashley, you and I have had 67 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: something going on all year for Bachelor Paradise. It's been 68 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: a ton of fun for us. We've been playing the 69 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise. Brack are like fantasy um pool, and 70 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: uh we've done that because we really want to engage 71 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: with all of you listeners a little bit more bringing in. 72 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: We've had a great, I mean a tremendous response for it, 73 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: and every week we announced a rule uh that will 74 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: you know be a part of this week. This week's 75 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: rule is this. Anybody gets ten more points if a 76 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: contestant mentions that they can see a future with a 77 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: another contestant. Again, you get ten more points if a 78 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: contestant that you've picked in your fantasy pool mentions that 79 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: they can see a future with another contestant. That's the 80 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 1: rule for this week. Best of luck, Uh, we're getting 81 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: closer and closer than end so the winner will be 82 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: announced very soon. That should be easy for this week, 83 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, because we're getting serious serious. Yeah, we're talking engagements. 84 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: All right, Let's take a quick break and then we 85 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: will get right into the Bachelor in Paradise recap. All right, 86 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: So we start out this episode, Ashley with the sneak peak, 87 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: which is always an engaging piece of an episode. Starts 88 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: out with, uh, with a lot of serious conversations. We 89 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: know relationships are gonna start getting serious, we just don't 90 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: know how serious they're gonna become. Uh. We all see 91 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: that Kenny is falling in love with Mari DeMar has 92 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: come to the island. We know that's gonna shake things up. 93 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: And also Joe is all about Serena. That's where the 94 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: sneak peek ends and Ashley take it away from part one. Alright, Well, 95 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: the sneak peek and exactly where we left off last week, 96 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: which was Joe and Serena telling each other they were 97 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: falling in love with each other and us having to 98 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: seek Kendall be tortured by just being steps away from 99 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: this very romantic scene we see her walk away last 100 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: week and that's where we leave off, and man, so 101 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: so heartbreaking. She ends up soon after going over to 102 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: Joe and just saying that she needs to talk. And 103 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: I respect Kendall for being so tough this moment, but 104 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: I also just like feel like she may have been 105 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: too tough, maybe throughout the entire thing, even from the 106 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: day she got there, Like maybe the best thing would 107 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: have just been like, hey, Joe, I'm actually just here 108 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: to see we can work out. And if we can't 109 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: work out, I don't think I can do anything. Can't 110 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: I can't although if I can find love here. Maybe 111 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: she was hoping hopelessly optimistic. Um, I just I don't. 112 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel so bad because she says 113 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: in the car as she leaves, because Joe, you know, 114 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: says he says flat out that like they're not going 115 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: to be together. Um, And she says in the car 116 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: Joe is my person and stuff like that. And I 117 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: feel like in those in the moment interviews we get 118 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: to see like more of her being open, and I 119 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: think with Joe, she she just tries to kind of 120 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: be a little bit tougher, and you felt like she 121 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: had back a hell back. I mean I possibly I 122 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: felt like that that scene was really raw. Um. But 123 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: that being said, even though I think she did hold back, UM, 124 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that it would have gone her way 125 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: even if she didn't, you know what I mean. No, 126 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: it's not I never watched this ever since the last 127 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: like seeing Joe and serene and kind of hearing Joe's emotion. 128 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't watching this kindle Joe scene thinking that anything 129 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: was going to come from it necessarily. I was mostly 130 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: wanting like some healing for her, or some closure or 131 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: like again the band aid kind of being ripped off, 132 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: and this to be like kind of something that now 133 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: she has to process that this is done. And I 134 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: think we got there. I think it took a long 135 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: time to get there. But I never felt like, even 136 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: if she made the full press on Joe, that it 137 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: was ever gonna go any direction other than how it ended. 138 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: I completely agree. I completely agree. So like, even if 139 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: she were more out there about her feelings, which I 140 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: think it's evident by like the behavior, like the nonverbal behavior, 141 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: that she just wanted to be there to be with him, 142 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: but never really fully admitted that. I don't think that 143 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: I think it was over over and I guess it's 144 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: just hard for me. It's really hard for me to 145 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: watch one the heartbreak and like she says with wells 146 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: at at the bar, She's like, have you ever seen 147 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: your ex kiss somebody? You know, it's just like such 148 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: an unnatural environment to be in and it's like the 149 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: most heartbreaking thing. And then, um, I just feel like 150 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: a lot of me was I don't want to use 151 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: the word frustrated, but let's just go with it that 152 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: Kendall didn't come out about these feelings in the whole 153 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: past year that she had the opportunity to do so 154 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: before Paradise, because they seemed so strong. Why wait until 155 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: he's given this opportunity to like find love again. I mean, 156 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: he gets the opportunity every day and you know, regular life, 157 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: But in Paradise, I just feel like she missed out 158 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: on a chance to be with him again. I I'm 159 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: with you. I wonder what caused it to happen now? 160 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: I mean it could have been worse timing, because one, 161 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: it has to be done on the beach on camera 162 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: in a very real moment too. You know, she came 163 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: in late and Joe is already in a relationship, so 164 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: that had to be you know, that was going to 165 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: get to like what what what caused this to happen? Now? 166 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: And maybe it's not a question we'll ever figure out 167 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: because we really get any answers to it, um, but 168 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: it it is something to explore. And it was hard 169 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: to watch, you know, because we you know, as we've mentioned, 170 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: she's she's a tremendous human and it's it's hard to 171 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: see these things happen. But the one question I have 172 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: for you to kind of move on then, is how 173 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: do we know anything about Kendall's relationship with Ivan? Because 174 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: that just kind of got pushed aside, and like Ivan 175 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: is upset, kind of confused, Like we don't get a 176 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: lot about it, but like, is this a really tough 177 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: situation for him to sit in? No, Okay, it doesn't 178 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: seem like he was that attached. And I think it's 179 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: like super stupid of me to say, like, oh, he's 180 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: the only noted for a few days, because we all 181 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: know how I've acted after only knowing somebody for a 182 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: few days. But it just seemed like Ivan was more 183 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: obsessed to like where his rose was coming from, and 184 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: not so much Kendall. I'm sure he got vibes throughout 185 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: their time together that she wasn't completely in it and 186 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: that ye know, her focus was Joe. I'm not concerned 187 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: about Ivan. Ivan such a sweet guy. I hope the 188 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: best for him. I really don't care that things didn't 189 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: work out for him at Kendall. Yeah, there's there. Well, 190 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of Ivan that we're gonna see at 191 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: the end of the episode that we'll get to too, 192 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: and a different side of Ivan that we haven't seen 193 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: at well. All right, so I can end up leaving 194 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: the beach, and so the relationships that are left here 195 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: on the beach at this point, just to give a 196 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: recap or Mari and kN Kenny, Abigail, Noah, Serena and Joe, 197 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: Thomas and Becca, which we haven't seen a lot from, 198 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: which is super weird to me. UH and Riley and 199 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: Marissa Little John is hosting UH this week. He announces 200 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: that two people and two new people are coming to 201 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: the beach. Damar and Ed I'm not shocked with Demorrow, 202 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, Demorrow makes it. I'm a little shocked 203 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: that Egg caused UH, like some mix up on the beach, 204 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: some interest, Like it's just not somebody I thought would 205 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: come to the beach and shake things up, but him 206 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: and Natasha actually click like it like is working. M hmm. 207 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: I don't know why we think of Ed as like 208 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: such a character. I kind of think of him like 209 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: Daniel Um. What's daniels last name? Uh, yeah, I know 210 00:11:54,559 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: it's from Canada. Yeah, Canadian speedo Daniel Um. I don't 211 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: know why we think of him like in a such 212 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: a silly way, but he just has like that caricature personality. 213 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: And I agree, like, I never thought that that would 214 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: be somebody that Natasha would click with, but it definitely 215 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: seems that there's something there. I don't think that this 216 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: is like going to go very far, but I'm happy 217 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: that Natasha just has somebody that she wants to make 218 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: out with. Yeah that she's Yeah, you're in paradise. It's 219 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: nice that you have somebody you're gonna kiss. The the 220 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: interesting one and and we still haven't seen it, and 221 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: we have to flash back to last week. I know 222 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: our listeners are are very interested in this scene because 223 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: we were, and we've heard about it from them. The 224 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: Marissa kissing somebody seen never shows up this week, and 225 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: so is that still yet to come? Because we see 226 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: some issues coming on there is it still yet to come? Well, 227 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't in the preview, and I would think it'd 228 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: be in the preview, but it happened. We saw it 229 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: on tape. We must know what's going on. And my 230 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: best guess is if if it does happen, it will 231 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: be during the rest of the date time cocktail party. 232 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: It would Yeah, it would be a shock. And I 233 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: know that she had mentioned during this episode and you 234 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: know that there's some issues going on with her and 235 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: Riley or she wasn't like necessarily knowing where he was at. 236 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: But that kind of got fixed. It felt like, um. 237 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: She also had, you know, straight up said that she 238 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: was there for tomorrow, like she went to the beach 239 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: for tomorrow. So there's obviously like this going in interest. 240 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: It honestly threw me off because I was I was 241 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: really thinking that Riley and Merissa had this like really strong, 242 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: almost impenetrable like connection and then we see it kind 243 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,479 Speaker 1: of fall apart within a few minutes during this episode, 244 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: just for a few minutes. But I think she would 245 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: have said yes to a date. I'm assuming, but I 246 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: think she would have said yes to a date with 247 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: tomorrow if you would ask. I'm a little confused how 248 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: it went. So, Yeah, I initially thought she was gonna 249 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: say yes, And then when he didn't ask Marissa, I 250 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: thought that maybe we didn't see a part where she said, like, 251 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: I've been really into you, been waiting for you to come. However, 252 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm too far in with Riley, um, and I'm respecting 253 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: that relationship. I'm really excited where it's going. And then 254 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: if we do get the kiss, then I'm going to 255 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: be like super super duper confused. Yeah, and then Riley 256 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: was all defensive and he was like, I wouldn't have 257 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: said anything, but I would have been upset, and I 258 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: just kind of wish that he would have just said 259 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: I would have I would have been upset, and I 260 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: would have wished that you didn't go. And then he 261 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: kind of breaks his barriers and it's like, I'm just 262 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: so scared to open up, and this is why, and 263 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: you know, and I get there and and that was 264 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: a good scene to have because it did fill some gaps. 265 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: But am I wrong Ashley to be saying that? Like 266 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: I was thrown off on the Marissa right, like, are 267 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: we are we leaning too far into this? Because a 268 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: few weeks ago, we would have said this, this relationship 269 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: seems like it's going to last way outside of Paradise. 270 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: How do you go from saying I'm falling in love 271 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: with you too within forty eight hours kissing somebody else? 272 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I really don't know. And that's something 273 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: to watch. And so note that everybody for the upcoming 274 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: episodes is like, what is going to go on here? 275 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: Because it's it's gonna be very shocking. Um to me, 276 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: I have a feeling this the end of Paradise, Uh 277 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: is gonna be It's gonna be something that we've never 278 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: seen before. I might have some insight knowledge on that too. 279 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: Oh is that the Wells tease when he said that 280 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: there's something that happens that he's never seen before? Or 281 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: did we already get past that? I don't think we've 282 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: gotten past it yet. Oh really? Oh fantastic. Yeah, there's 283 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: still more to come, and so as good as this 284 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: season's been, it's only gonna get better. With that tease, 285 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: let's take a break here, Ashley. When we come back, 286 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the couples of the beach, 287 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: the new group date that's going on, and everything else 288 00:15:55,400 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: in paradise. Alright, Ashley, So back at the beach, Um, 289 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: we have some cute things going on. We have Joe, 290 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: who we love. Dr Joe playing the ukulele, makes a 291 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: little scene. Know and Abigail have a little date. We 292 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: haven't seen enough from them this season. It's been a 293 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: very quiet, which can only make me imagine that it's 294 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: going nowhere. Really, you know, yeah, because we've seen so 295 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: little from them, and yet they've been together pretty much 296 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: the entire time, with like maybe one day out of it. 297 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: It makes me feel like they're not going anywhere. I 298 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: would argue differently because of the Kevin and Astrid situation 299 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: when we saw Kevin and Astrod none during that season. 300 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: Kevin and Astrid broke up at the end of the season. Um, 301 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: you're right, I forgot that piece. But now they haven't 302 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: a baby. Wow, things are wild. Okay, you're not wrong there. 303 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: So maybe it doesn't go anywhere. Maybe this isn't a 304 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: relationship we should get attached to. Um. And again I 305 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: mentioned that, you know, Beck and Thomas like we see 306 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: nothing from them, and and so really the couples that 307 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: like we see the most from her Kenny and Mary, Uh, 308 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: Marissa and Riley, uh Joe and Serena, And am I 309 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: wrong in saying those are the relationships that we really 310 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: like right now, have the most invested into for sure? 311 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: For sure? Should we talk about Kenny and Mary's date? Yeah, 312 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: I think that's the best place to leave, because really 313 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: the new group date where uh Riley happened, Yeah, nothing happened. 314 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: I mean Riley didn't end up being upset because Chelsea 315 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: went with the mar and Natasha with Ed. As we mentioned, 316 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: Natasha and Ed kind of have a connection, but Chelsea 317 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: wasn't into Tamar didn't really work out. That was kind 318 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: of nothing from them besides the painting. And then we 319 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: saw Natasha and Ed kiss in a red lipstick kiss 320 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: and I was thinking when she was wearing the red 321 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: red lipstick, I was like, is she wearing the red 322 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: lipsick because she doesn't want to kiss ed? Because every 323 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: girl knows that if you don't want to kiss the 324 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: guy you're going on a date with, you should wear 325 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: red lipstick because the guys are usually afraid of it. 326 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: Ed didn't seem to even realize. I Uh, I think 327 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: he was just I think he was just so happy. 328 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: I think he was so happy to just be sitting 329 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: next to Natasha that he was like, I'm into whatever, 330 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: Like I don't care what I like. Um, but that's it. Okay, 331 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: So Kenny and Mary date. I actually actually will say this. 332 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: I usually watching things like this usually don't kind of 333 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: like make me feel any sort of weird way. Um, 334 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: awkward conversations make me a little bit, like I feel 335 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: a lot more awkward than you know, these kind of dates. 336 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: This one like really pushed the boundaries though, Like I 337 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: this was this is a wild date for ABC for 338 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: eight o'clock ABC. There's been so many there. Well, there's 339 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: been the whipped cream looking off toes, and then there 340 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: was tea and like the naked volleyball, and then there 341 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: was this I'm talking about like I mean the innu 342 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: and like it was it was a lot um you know. 343 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: And then I don't know, I don't know how you 344 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: feel about this actually, but you know, I'm a little 345 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: more secretive when it comes to stuff. But like even 346 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: Kenny saying, like what people don't know about Mari is 347 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: she's like a freak. Like great, that's awesome, good for Mari, 348 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: Like do you girl, But like I don't know if 349 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: you necessarily want that maybe she does, maybe she doesn't mind, 350 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: but like, ont that being said across the eight o'clock 351 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: ABC hour. Maybe that's just something that you should keep 352 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: between each other. Maybe not. I just feel like it's 353 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: it was, it was the whole date was throwing me off. Well, 354 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: you and I are both a little bit more conservative 355 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to that stuff. I think that we 356 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: are uncomfortable with if it all depends on the personality, 357 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: and I think the two of them are probably actually 358 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: pretty comfortable with it. So I mean have to say 359 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: that they're not going to be cringing watching it tonight 360 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: because their families are probably watching it. Oh my god, 361 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: that's what I would be thinking about. It's crazy. And 362 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: then the second half was like so sweet, and they 363 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: said that they're falling in love with each other, and 364 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: it really seemed like Kenny has like never said I 365 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: love you before. He said I I don't say that 366 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: to humans. I say that to dogs. That's that's sweet. No, 367 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: you're right. The second half the day was so sweet, 368 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: and you know what, it's been fun to watch their 369 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: relationship because it is so different than anything that like 370 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: maybe I mean I'm gonna speak for you like that, 371 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: you and I are comfortable with it just shows it's 372 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: been It's always fun on Paradise to see these different 373 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: couples and kind of how they interact and that they 374 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: you know, when they get to know each other, like 375 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: the kind of dates they set up for each other, 376 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 1: how they speak to each other. Kenny and Mary had 377 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: a really sweet evening session, and it makes me think 378 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: that there is something very very strong here um and 379 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: I hope there an engagement. They're talking engagement, they're talking 380 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: future and and they and they feel like they like 381 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: you see some depth in it too, like they're both pulling. 382 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: Especially with Kenny, you're seeing a depth get pulled out 383 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: of him that like I think he had like originally 384 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: probably wasn't expecting to like go to you know, he 385 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: shows up to the beach naked, kind of having fun, 386 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: Like I think he thought this would just be a 387 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: good experience. And now you're seeing him like really open up. 388 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: And I think that's because of his trust and his 389 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: relationship with Mari. He says he's never felt this way before, 390 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: and I really actually believe it, even though he's forty. 391 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's it's a relationship to watch. It's one 392 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: the root for another relationship going on or a triangle 393 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: going on, I don't know what you want to call 394 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: it is with Tia. And this is a situation that 395 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: I'm super intrigued by because it felt like Tia uh 396 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: one on this day with Blake and we we were like, 397 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: this was so cute. She was talking about how amazing 398 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: it was the vagina dancing and yeah, that's pg R 399 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: PG thirteen R thing for this. I want to know 400 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: whose idea was to just keep saying that too, and 401 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: like how they got over and over over and over 402 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: like that, you know, it's it's dancing and we get it. 403 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: Girls get it. Yeah, but yeah, it's it's an accurate description, 404 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: but like saying it over and over, I'm like, okay, 405 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: get it, got it. So this isn't like a new 406 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: shocking like revelation that she's like bringing out like all 407 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: the girls are watching like, oh yeah, we relate. I 408 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: thought this was just like some little like fun things 409 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: she was saying. I think they did kind of start 410 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: that expression on her season, but like, I think it's 411 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: probably just something that like most girls like, we get okay, 412 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: Well good for her then, So it's dancing around she's 413 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: feeling it um. And then this week we really don't 414 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: get any Blake and we saw them talk about this 415 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: that like they haven't spoken since their date, which is 416 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: just weird to me. I don't know what happened to 417 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: cause them to kind of separate, but we see her 418 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: super into James, which is almost the opposite of Blake 419 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, like no tattoos, um, slip 420 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: back hare, Like, can we talk about the slip back 421 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: hair for a second. It looks good on the beach. 422 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about the slip back hair, and like, yes, 423 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: his brows are overdone too. But then he posted something 424 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: on Instagram this week and I really really urge you 425 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: guys to go check it out. He goes, this is 426 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: the reason that I slicked my hair back, and he 427 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: showed us a picture of his natural hair. It's super 428 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: it's swoopy, it's got a beautiful color, and I'm all 429 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: about it. And I think the guy looks ten years 430 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: younger and so much hotter. He think he would have 431 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: been like a superstar. He would have been such a 432 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: more of a standout if he shows out his hair 433 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: like this. So I'm sorry, but if James, if you're listening, 434 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: to this, you should definitely start rocking the regular natural 435 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: hair looks good. Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. 436 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: He looks good. He does. He has the swoop and 437 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, like he doesn't like it because he 438 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: pays that thing down to his head. I can't be 439 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: comfortable on the beach, Like at some point you think 440 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: you just wake up and not do his hair. It's 441 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: it's the beach, and I mean it feels like that's 442 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: the one time to let it all hang out, like 443 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: just do what you know, be all natural on the beach. Well, 444 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: so we we do. We see him in Tia connecting, 445 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: We see this relationship blossoming, and but it doesn't really 446 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: feel like I mean, from my opinion, there's a lot 447 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: there and yet only an emotional way for Tea. She says, 448 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: not so much in a physical stance. So what's going 449 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: on here? Ashley explained to me where we're at with 450 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: Tia and what you think is going to happen? Because 451 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: I was really thinking this blake thing was was all 452 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: was all you know, gonna really last the end? Well, 453 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: if we keep following the pattern of the past, well 454 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: maybe like Forever Seasons of Paradise, there's gonna be a 455 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: rose ceremony. And then the next day, after the rose ceremony, 456 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: Wells is probably gonna get everyone together and say, Okay, 457 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: if you're not in as serious enough relationship or you 458 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: don't see this possibly ending an engagement, you guys should 459 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: probably leave. So I think she's gonna end up giving 460 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: Actually think she's gonna end up giving James her rose 461 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: because I think that Blake annoyed her well enough too 462 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: for her to like be like, Okay, you're going to 463 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: go against your type right now, and you're gonna go 464 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: for like the good guy and not the bad guy. 465 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: And then I think they're gonna like basically split up 466 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: the next day. I'm shocked because I really think this 467 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: was a relationship that I'm just confused by. But boy, 468 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: do you think that she was overreacting? No, I don't 469 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: think she was overacting. But I want to know, from 470 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: like your point of view, do you think she was 471 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,239 Speaker 1: overreacting because she liked the gesture, the extra time, like 472 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: the feeling of being courted by James, uh, and then 473 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: she felt that that Blake didn't give her any special time, 474 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: wasn't making an effort. Do you feel like he wasn't 475 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: making an effort, and that she it was warranted for 476 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: her to get as annoyed as she did with him. 477 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: And then he kept saying like, I care about you 478 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: so much. You're all I care about. You're all I 479 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: care about. And he said it so many times and 480 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: in a way that he just felt like defensive that 481 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: I actually stopped believing. I didn't believe him anymore. I 482 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: really thought like, oh, he just wants to stick around. 483 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: Maybe I here's what I think, uh we I didn't 484 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: see enough of their relationship to make any type of judgment. 485 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: I think it's a two way street. You know. If 486 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: there really the issue is, hey, we haven't talked since 487 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: our date, well why like both that's both of their issues. 488 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: That's not just one of their issues, that's both of 489 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: their issues. If the argument was, hey, I came up 490 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: to you and you kind of ignored me and I 491 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: felt uncomfortable around you, well that's different, but it's both 492 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: of their issues there. I do think he was defensive. 493 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: I it just felt like there was like miscommunication and 494 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: if you really cared about her that much, um, something 495 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: happened to where he didn't like pursue her. Um. But 496 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: you know on the beach and in today's age, like 497 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: they both pursue each other and she it felt like 498 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: every scene we saw with her this episode was with 499 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: James and so she was obviously pursuing him, yeah, but 500 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: not really pursuing. I think she just liked the fact 501 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: that he was trying to pursue her. And I think 502 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: what she's trying to tell Blake is that she wants 503 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: like an old fashioned type scenario where the guy is 504 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: really pursuing her. It's fair and maybe they just weren't 505 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: seeing that. Um. I don't know. If I didn't see 506 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: enough to say, oh this, somebody was in the wrong there. 507 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: It was more confusing to me. Like I said, I 508 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: just don't understand what happened. Well, speaking of confusing, we 509 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: did touch on and the next scene in the show 510 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: was with Morris and Riley, and it was confusing up 511 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: to this point because we thought they had something very strong. 512 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: It felt like it was falling apart. And this is 513 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: where we see Riley, as we mentioned earlier, open up, 514 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: and I felt like, as a viewer, their relationship took 515 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: another step forward. Um. That's why I'm still confused by 516 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: the sneak peak where we see her kissing somebody else. 517 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: I don't know where that came from or if it 518 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: will ever come up, but I do feel like after 519 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: this scene, I'm thinking they're in a good place again, 520 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: like this is this is a strong relationship one thousand percent. 521 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: I only feel good about it. So again, we have 522 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: to note it that we saw a sneak that she's 523 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: kissing somebody else where does that happen? And how anxious 524 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: do I need to be waiting for the next week 525 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: to see when that happens. I'm telling you, they don't 526 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: give us this part. We are robbed. We have to 527 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: then that'll be our first question whenever we do interview 528 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: Riley or Marissa. It's a big deal. Okay, should we 529 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: talk about the storm and how stupid that storyline was? 530 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 1: It was weird. Yeah, I don't know if we need 531 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: to talk about it right like so, but I think 532 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: we have to talk about it because it was so weird, 533 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: Like they make a big spectacle of it. Our friends, 534 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: our friends Louie and Peter come in and it's very exciting. 535 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: When you see the producers on TV. They have the 536 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: are showing the whole camera crew and everybody together and 537 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: they make it seem like it's so serious, like there's 538 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: an actual hurricane, like a tornado. It is just gonna 539 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: like show up on the beach, and then they pack up, 540 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: they get out, and then all of a sudden, the 541 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: next scene is them walking back in. They didn't say 542 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: anything about what happened that night. Could they at least 543 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: could at least just gotten one little interview clip where 544 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: somebody said, oh, we went to the hotel for the night. 545 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: The girls and the guy say it separated. Um, we 546 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: had a nice night of like being able to get 547 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: a normal shower and sleep in air conditioning. Yeah, it 548 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: would have been good because it felt the gas. Yeah, 549 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: it was a very weird transition. But I don't know 550 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: if you caught picked up on this, but we do 551 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: see with Ivan, um he is talking about how something 552 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: happened over you know, their overnight, and so it would 553 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: have been nice to make that more of a storyline 554 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: because I feel like I almost forgot that storm even 555 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: happened during this, like until you just brought it up. 556 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: But now I feel like, you know, in the next 557 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: episode it is going to play a part in a relationship. 558 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: It's the only reason I could think that they kept 559 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: that in is my best gas is that he ends 560 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: up talking to Chelsea. Oh so we just need to 561 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: be there, We at least need to have context that, hey, 562 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: they left the beach because it's going to be such 563 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: a storyline that Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, fair enough, that 564 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: makes sense. Well, so I guess the last big thing 565 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: to talk about is Aaron and Chelsea and Ivan and 566 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: that in that whole love triangle that happens during the 567 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: cocktail party. Yeah yeah, I mean, um, Aaron, you know 568 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Is. I don't know Aaron. Um, Aaron. He's always 569 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: so angry, but he's always so mad. Um, He's always 570 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: so mad, and he's mad at everybody. And uh, it's 571 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: at some point like we have to like call it 572 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: out right, I mean it loves confrontation. Yeah, it's happened 573 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: how many times during this season already four three, four 574 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: times and his bachelor seas so at some point we 575 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: have to say, like, this dude just likes to confront 576 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: people and he feels like it's anything to do. Well, 577 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: he does it with Ivan, Ivan doesn't step down from it. 578 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: Is it weird that Ivan walks over to the couch 579 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: and starts kiss with Chelsea. Maybe maybe not, especially if 580 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: there is some storyline here about their time together during 581 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: the storm, then it may sense on why they you know, 582 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: have this connection. Uh, and maybe Aaron's just catching up 583 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: with it. But again to me, and and you're teaching 584 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: you've taught me this actually during the season, it's paradise. 585 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: This stuff happens. Like you can't get mad. I mean, 586 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: you can get hurt, you can be like, it can 587 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: feel hard and awkward, but you can't get like visibly 588 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: angry because you're kind of agreeing to it. Ben, you 589 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: just put it perfectly. He could be super angry invent 590 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: to James, but him being like, Yo, you stole my girl, 591 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, like she wasn't your girl yesterday when 592 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: she went on a date with another guy. Like come on, 593 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. Aaron just like his attitude and like 594 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: the Brook everything's like yo, dude, man, Like it's just 595 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: like so old for me. I'm just like, even if 596 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: it maybe looks like Ivan is from out maybe looking 597 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: for a rose, I don't think there's much of difference 598 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: with Aaron. Uh, I don't. I'm I'm team Ivan in 599 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: this situation. This is totally quote legal. Yeah, what happens 600 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: all day long. Well that's why I'm confused. Like, you know, 601 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: you get angry, he's angry, he's mad, he's like he's 602 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: almost getting entering into a physical altercation because of this. 603 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: And what you've told me and what you've taught all 604 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: of us as we listen and follow from you, is like, 605 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: this stuff just happens in Paradise. You have to be 606 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: some level okay with it. It's the weirdness of it all, 607 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: especially if you know the two of you haven't had 608 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: a conversation that says, hey, this is it. We're not 609 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: going to date other people. Uh, you know, I could 610 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: see him being like upset, but they don't. They're not 611 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: on that level, and so there's nothing to be upset about. 612 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: But it is how this ends, um. And then we 613 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: get the steep for next week or for the rest 614 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: of the season, and in two weeks we see people 615 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: get engaged. We see Kaylin and Dean show up. Um Becca, 616 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: who we haven't seen a lot from yet on Paradise, 617 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: is having these internal battle Riley asked if um if 618 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: Merissa wants this thing to continue, which as a storyline, 619 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: as we've mentioned, we're following and Kenny is packing his bag. 620 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: So Ashley, I ask you, does anybody leave here together? 621 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: Does anybody get engaged? Actually? Or is this thing just 622 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: I mean, for the first time, has it ever happened 623 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: where nobody's gotten engaged in Paradise? No, that's never happened. 624 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: Could we Could it happened this season? Did that happen? 625 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: I think it happened during the Korean season. You know 626 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: that this season that everything is shut down for a 627 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: bit because Raven and Adam and then Derek got engaged 628 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: that season, and Taylor got inkage that season, but it 629 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,479 Speaker 1: wasn't until after the fact, but they got like an 630 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: excuse for that because they weren't there the entire time 631 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: and there was like an abbreviated season. I think people 632 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: are going to get engaged. I feel like Joe and 633 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,239 Speaker 1: Serina are very steady. But I'm still like, even though 634 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: I've been through the process and like I have Tanner, 635 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: who you know, have been married for it's gonna be 636 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: six years in January, it's already six years, you know, 637 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: I think it's already six years. I still think it's 638 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: so hard to believe, to be like, I'm going to 639 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: put a ring on the finger. Now after this, because 640 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: it's only three and a half weeks, I mean during 641 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: the Bachelor and Bachelor Wrette, I know you have a 642 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: longer it's like a longer stretch of time, but you 643 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 1: actually have less one on one time. But it's still 644 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: like mind boggling that these people are saying, I'm falling 645 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: in love with you right now, and then next week 646 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: they're going to get engaged. It's it is wild. It's 647 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: been crazy to watch. I think Jade Tanner ha been 648 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: married for five years now. It was January two, sixteen 649 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: that they got married. Yeah. Yeah, so, um, well, actually 650 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 1: when we come back, we're have Tatia Adams on uh 651 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: to just kind of talk about everything good in Bachelor Nation. 652 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: She's in the middle of it all right now, and 653 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: to also talk about the I heart fest that she 654 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: just got back from. Uh it sounds like an incredible time. 655 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,439 Speaker 1: Our team behind the scenes here, uh went as well, Uh, 656 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: this is the first year that actually you and I 657 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: have missed in what four years? Five years? And it 658 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: was weird to not be there, but we've missed it. 659 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: You can't wait to get back, Yes, we did. All right, Well, 660 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: let's get all the dirty deets from her right after this. Hi, guys, 661 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: I want to get this started with one thing and 662 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: one thing only. Um East and one of our producers said, Hey, 663 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: he wasn't exactly with you at the I Heart Festival, 664 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: but he was out in the pit area. You were there, 665 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: and you came up and said hi to him, which 666 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: made him look really cool and it made him feel 667 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: very special, and so it makes us feel very special 668 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: right there he is, Yeah, that's him, beautiful man, he is, 669 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: he is. He looked great at My Heart Festival. I 670 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: know I saw you because I had him seeming in people. 671 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: I saw Danielle. But um, it was different not having 672 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: you guys all with me this year. So it was fun. 673 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: Though we missed. We missed it. I know, Tasia. How 674 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: is the weekend? How is Vegas anything to report besides 675 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: the Eastern running. Yeah, honestly, I honestly think that I 676 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: Heart has the best music festivals. I feel like the 677 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: performances are always great, the energy is amazing. Um and 678 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know what this was. It was the 679 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: first public appearance Sac and I made together, which is 680 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: so weird to um realized, just because the COVID like 681 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: we hadn't gone to anything together, so like MTV, he 682 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: actually had like a release thing that weekend, so he 683 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: wasn't able to go with me. But like when I 684 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: did a m as, we were still like in hiding 685 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: and then everything else, we've kind of had like a 686 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: limited capacity issue because of COVID. So this is our 687 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: first time we've like flown somewhere for an event and 688 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: got to like hang out and enjoy it, which is 689 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: so bizarre. Did it feel sparkly, Yes, it was. Actually 690 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun. We danced the night away, 691 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: especially on Friday night, and it was it was so funny. 692 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: I was like bopping there and I was like, I 693 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever had so much fun out of 694 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: content before it. But I think it's just because we 695 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: haven't had any music musical festivals or like a concert 696 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: in two years. Yeah, that's interesting because too, Like that 697 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: was Jessica and I first like event together UM really 698 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: and we had a great time. Like I'm I'll be honest, 699 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,479 Speaker 1: like sometimes these things aren't that tight, like I don't 700 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: love them like it feels, you know, but the I 701 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: heart like fest was a blast for us to be 702 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: at UM and one of the cool parts too, is 703 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: because like when we went what was that she's two 704 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: years ago now, Jessica still didn't really this is her 705 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: first interview that she's ever done on like camera, was 706 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: at that festival, and she was so nervous and so confused, 707 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: and she also didn't understand like My World at all, 708 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: Like she hadn't watched the season, she didn't wasn't a 709 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: big fan of the show. She she she was so 710 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: oblivious to it all. And we're back in the green 711 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: room and then you have all those like huge names 712 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: that go back there and grab a snack or a 713 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: drink before they perform or before they present. So I 714 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: gotta ask you, was there anybody this year that you 715 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: saw that you kind of like got star struck by? 716 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: Because it happens to me every time I'm at my 717 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: heart fest with without a doubt. I mean honestly, Billie 718 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: Eilish just like made me kind of like stop in 719 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: my trucks. Um. I just think she's so beyond talented 720 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: the fact that she is nineteen years old and you 721 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: would have never guessed that is mind blowing to me. Um. 722 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: And also Kaleid As I presented to Kaleed, he is 723 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: someone that I have kind of followed since the very beginning. 724 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,439 Speaker 1: I remember when his first single came out. I don't 725 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: even know how I found him, but I have kind 726 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: of just followed his success, and that was like, really, um, 727 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: cereal should be presenting to him, but um, who else? 728 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 1: Kind of just like shocked me and trying to think, 729 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: you present who did you present with? I presented with 730 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: Big Boy UM and young Blood and Big Boys a 731 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: crazy per since to have by my side because growing up, 732 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: like my dad listened to a Big Boy UM on 733 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 1: the radio every single morning taking me to school, So 734 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: I've grown up with his voice, like you know, in 735 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: the car and like my dad talking about him. So 736 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: the fact that he was right there next to me 737 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: UM was really cool. But young Blood is actually a 738 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: person that I just kind of discovered. I had no 739 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: idea who he was, but the impact that he's made 740 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: on his community UM has been incredible. So he's definitely 741 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: something I kind of want to start following a little 742 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: bit more. I'm super intrigued by young Blood. I've I've 743 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: known of young Blood, followed young Blood story for a while, 744 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: and like he's one of those people that like just 745 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: captivates me like I could go on and on and 746 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: read more and more stories about him, just because like 747 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 1: he's so different than me, so different. So explain, like 748 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: if you can help me out, Like what was your 749 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: interaction with the young Blood? Like, truthfully, it was pretty minimal. Again, 750 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: there's still a lot of COVID stuff. But he just 751 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 1: walked up to me, was like, hello, love, and he's like, 752 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: you like dashing today? How are you doing? I was 753 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, I don't know what you're saying, really, 754 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: but I just you know, anybody with an accent, they 755 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: just like are ten times more intriguing, you know what 756 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: I mean. But he had just come offset I guess 757 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: he like had had a concert maybe like three hours 758 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: prior um in Atlanta, and it was just I don't know, 759 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 1: he's just very busy, but he just seemed very sweet, 760 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: very kind. But it was more to the people that 761 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: were surrounding him that kind of had told me a 762 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: little bit more about him, and um, just I'm just 763 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: fascinated by him. So and Big Boy also talked so 764 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 1: highly of him, and he's just like, it's so great 765 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: the work that you're doing. And it's just I don't know, 766 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: he just he kind of slip me off my feet. 767 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: I need to submerge myself. But you also have to realize, like, 768 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: I've also been kind of in this weird bubble for 769 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 1: the last year, truthfully, like where you go away for 770 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: a couple of months at a time where you don't 771 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: really listen to music. So I haven't really been introduced 772 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: to a lot of like the mainstream. Let's talk about that. 773 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: I know, we want to chat about this bubble bubble. 774 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: I have to just like cut to the chase because 775 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: we know the rumors that Clayton at eckerd Um is 776 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: going to be the next Bachelor. You know, there are 777 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: pictures of him filming in his hometown, and we know 778 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: that he's part of this Michelle of Michelle's cast. I 779 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: got to know if he stood out to you immediately 780 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: the way that he supposedly stood out to the producers. Um. 781 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: I do remember Clayton's entrance, and I do remember like 782 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: there was something about him. Um, he had a great presence. 783 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: And so I mean because Caitlin and I we kind 784 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: of hide in the bushes. Um, we obviously don't go 785 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: very far away from our bachelor. So we watch everybody 786 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: and we obviously try to make those first impression like 787 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: reactions and try to like figure out who is on 788 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: our top five and whatnot. But he was definitely someone 789 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: that I do remember night one and then um, as 790 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 1: the season kind of gone on, he was I don't know, 791 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: he's really cool. I don't I don't hang out too 792 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: much with the guys. It's kind of like me, Michelle 793 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: and Caitlin. So so let's talk about Michelle for a second. Also, 794 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: I want to hear from you, like, um, this is 795 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 1: your your second time hosting a season. Did it feel 796 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: different that Night one feel different than to you than 797 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: it did with Katie? Like were you more nervous, less nervous? 798 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: Was it as exciting? Like walk us through what you 799 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: were feeling. I'm super intrigued. As the host for the 800 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: second Girl Round, Well, this season was a little different 801 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: because now I kind of do have that title as host. 802 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: Before we were kind of mentors, and so I don't 803 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: really think any of us knew what that really meant. 804 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: And so I remember Caitly and I were standing on 805 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: that platform on Katie season being like, so like what 806 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 1: do we do? Like we have no idea what was 807 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: going on? And the producers had no idea either, and 808 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: so we kind of just made it our own. This year, 809 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: it was kind of more of like, um, well we're 810 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: back at it, let's introduce the guys, let's introduce our girl, 811 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: and we kind of had a little bit more rhythm 812 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: if you will. Um. But also we kind of just 813 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: let Michelle just do her thing. Um. She kind of 814 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: came to us when she wanted to, as opposed to 815 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: like us checking in every like you know, fifteen minutes. Um. 816 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: But I have to say she is such an amazing, 817 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: like level headed, well rounded individual that she didn't need 818 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: too much help. M I wonder why that is? Like, well, 819 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: I mean and then Ashley, I'll stop talking because I 820 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: know you have a lot of questions too, but like why, 821 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: like what do you think that is? And are you 822 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: starting to see now two seasons in like the difference 823 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: in leads and the difference in kind of the the 824 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 1: vibe of the show based on the lead, where like Katie, 825 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: it felt like you guys were around a lot. There 826 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 1: was like I don't want to say any closer or 827 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: less close. We haven't seen Michelle's season with you, but 828 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: like you're around a lot, So what do you think 829 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: it was that made you this season kind of say, hey, 830 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: she doesn't need us as much. You know, I think that, Um, well, 831 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: there's a couple of factors. Number one covid um that 832 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: was kind of different than we were like in just 833 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: a bubble, we couldn't really have any like outside talent 834 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: come in. This year, we might have a little or 835 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: this season we might have a little bit more of that, 836 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: which kind of like you know, made us kind of 837 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: take a back seat and let us let her have 838 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: fun on her dates. But truthfully, I also think it's 839 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: just like how comfortable the lead is and and and 840 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: how much help did they want or um, if they 841 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: are struggling, if there's drama with the guys, that also 842 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: plays a huge part um, and sometimes people just want 843 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: to talk things through. I mean, I know for me 844 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,919 Speaker 1: when I was bachelorette, I really valued that girl time 845 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,280 Speaker 1: when I did get it, and I think Katie did too. 846 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: But I think, um, with Michelle, she was just she 847 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: kind of just knew what she wanted. Like she she's 848 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: also a teacher, you know what I mean. So she's 849 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: pretty again level headed and she um pretty realistic. She 850 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 1: doesn't really kind of like she takes you for face value, 851 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 1: she doesn't really read too into it. She also kind 852 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 1: of weeds out who's kind of a drama starter, and 853 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: not because she's good at doing that. Um, I don't know, 854 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: she was kind of just really independent. We saw Katie 855 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: just eliminate guys the second that they seemed like drama starters. 856 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: Does that happen again this season or or do we 857 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: get more like the guys that like kind of like 858 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 1: last week after week and we're not sure why. I 859 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: think if this group of guys are a little bit 860 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: and more um, they're a little bit older, but also 861 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 1: at the same time, there's drama starting day one, but 862 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 1: Michelle does not play like okay, they'll see the door 863 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 1: pretty quickly. So um, and I just think that the 864 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: guys really respected her too, and so like when she 865 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: did kind of confront the first situation or two, like 866 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: they kind of kneel like, oh shoot, she means business 867 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: and she's not playing around. So um, it's let's just 868 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: say night one. It's going to get very interesting. The 869 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: guys think that they have a little wiggle room and 870 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: they don't. I love it. I can't wait to see 871 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: like a teacher as a lead I'm sure there's been 872 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: a teacher as a lead before. I can't remember, but like, 873 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I just feel like a teacher. 874 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: Like they're they're patient, they do they read through the 875 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,439 Speaker 1: BS well, they don't like chaos doesn't really bother them, 876 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: Like it doesn't like fluster them. And then like, especially 877 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: as the lead and knowing your role, I just have 878 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: this feeling that Michelle will put like these dudes in 879 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: their place and the like, I think it's awesome. I 880 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: think it's I think it's gonna be hilarious. Now, Tasia, 881 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: this Michelle season has a two episode of The Bachelor. Okay, 882 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: so it's huge. Um, and you know you're your Bachelor 883 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 1: franchise story is a little different than some You're you're 884 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: on a season. Um, you know Paradise, took some time off, 885 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: came back as a bachelorette. Now you've been the now 886 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 1: you're the host. You were a mentor, which I don't 887 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 1: know what the difference is. I don't know if anybody does, 888 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 1: but I mean, what is this meant to you? Like 889 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,359 Speaker 1: overlast I don't know how many years of your life 890 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 1: now four years of your life, three years of your life, 891 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: Like what is this franchise meant to you? What is 892 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: The Bachelorette meant to you? Truthfully, I feel like, UM, 893 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: the franchise as a whole has really made me grow 894 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: up and really, um become the woman that I am today. 895 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I found a lot of my confidence. 896 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: I feel like, um, I have found a sense of 897 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 1: what I finally is important in my life and like 898 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: how I want to impact the world. I always knew 899 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 1: that I wanted to, but um, I feel like it's 900 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 1: my life before the Bachelor, Like I was kind of 901 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,919 Speaker 1: like floating around and I didn't really I was gonna 902 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 1: go back to school to be a p A because 903 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: I had just gotten out of a barious relationships. So 904 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 1: it was kind of like I didn't really know what 905 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: to call my own. I didn't really have anything that 906 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: was me. And now I think this really pushes you 907 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 1: to be you and authentically you, and if you're somebody 908 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,839 Speaker 1: else you can see it well either on the screen 909 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,479 Speaker 1: or people are going to tell you you're being fake, 910 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's really just made 911 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 1: me kind of grow into the woman that I am 912 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:25,439 Speaker 1: and um, but also being a host now I hope 913 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,760 Speaker 1: to have an impact on the diversity of the cast, 914 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: but also the longevity of these relationships. If I can, 915 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 1: you know, kind of breathe in some advice to any 916 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 1: of these, um, newer couples or any of the guys 917 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 1: looking for love and the girls looking for love. I 918 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: feel like it's just there's a lot of advice that 919 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: can be given, especially after you leave Okay, so perfect transition, 920 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: and to the advice that you would give your old 921 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 1: friend Brendan for what you went through with it Paradise, 922 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: and if you were shocked by this behavior, because it 923 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: just seemed like such a one eight from the Brennan 924 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 1: that we saw on your season. Oh God, we're gonna 925 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: get into this Okay. So, um was I shocked? I 926 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: mean I think everyone was shocked. I don't think anybody 927 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 1: could have ever predicted that somebody was gonna act that 928 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 1: way in Paradise. I'm not gonna really even give any 929 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 1: more adjectives to that, but um, I did have a 930 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: kind of a gut feeling in the middle of my season. 931 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 1: I've never really kind of like said this, but um, 932 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 1: there is something that was a little off, and there 933 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: was something that I kind of felt like he was 934 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,399 Speaker 1: kind of pulling away once he got kind of serious. Um, 935 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 1: there were some dates where he was just like I 936 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: would say, like are you excited to meet my family? 937 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: And there was a lot of detective date where it 938 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: said like are you excited to introduce Tasia to your family? 939 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: He said something and the live detective said that was 940 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: actually false and so it's like there was like little 941 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: red flags that I started to see and it just 942 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: something felt off. And um, I will say that I 943 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 1: felt like I was being told one thing and then 944 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:15,319 Speaker 1: the fillings were different. Um. So that's my experience with him. 945 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: Was I shocked to see his actions absolute I I 946 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 1: would have never thought that that would have happened or 947 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: he was when that person. But I have to say 948 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: I feel like, um, I'm glad everything worked out the 949 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 1: way that it did for myself. And UM, I wasn't 950 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: on you know, the receiving end of anything like that. 951 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: But I don't know. It's a messy out there in Paradise, 952 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 1: you know it is. And maybe every season they need 953 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: to have a light detector day. I forgot about that. That 954 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: That was a good point because it really brought up 955 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: some like stuff that now we're seeing to be true, 956 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 1: Like then you watch you like whatever, I think, we 957 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: don't really know what this stuff means. Now you're seeing 958 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: the behavior of some of those people and you're like, 959 00:50:55,239 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: oh no, like that worked, like seeing they're like these 960 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: silly dates and whatnot. But I remember like that and 961 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: I felt like something was just a little off. And 962 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if it aired in my interview at 963 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: that time, but like I definitely said it. I said 964 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,320 Speaker 1: there was something kind of off. Today. I feel like 965 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,919 Speaker 1: we've hit a kind of a climax and it's there's 966 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,399 Speaker 1: something preventing us from moving forward. And I don't know 967 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 1: exactly what that was. It must have hurt you because 968 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: you're tight with Natasha, who's your co host there um, 969 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 1: and I mean she has just risen above all the grossness, 970 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: which we love for her. But I also want to 971 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: talk about your other co host in your podcast, which 972 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,800 Speaker 1: is Joe, and what he's gone through now with Kendall 973 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,839 Speaker 1: and and how you feel about like that kind of 974 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 1: love triangle ish, like do you you think Kendall should 975 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 1: have showed up? Do you feel like Serena is a 976 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: better fit for him? You know, I have to say this, Um, 977 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 1: if I were Kendall, I would have I would have 978 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: always regretted not trying, you know, at the end of 979 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: the day. Um. But I also think that Joe navigated 980 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: it very well. I think that he was very kind 981 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 1: and very sweet, even when Kendall would break it down 982 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 1: to him. Um, he was very comforting to her. But 983 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 1: he was also very honest. And I think that Joe 984 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 1: gave himself a chance. I think it. Joe even said, like, 985 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 1: if Kendall would have approached him before Paradise, that's what 986 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 1: I was, was like the fatal like I just like 987 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: now I just watch in frustration, knowing it could have 988 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 1: been different for her. But see, that's the thing though, Uh, 989 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 1: that's why you have to be honest with yourself and 990 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 1: like not play games with things. If you want to 991 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 1: be with someone, go freaking tell them. I don't understand 992 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 1: why people wait work it out, like and she and 993 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 1: it was so sad, she said in the car, like 994 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 1: Joe's my person. But Joe was also really happy with Serena, 995 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: So like I was, I can't fault him for falling 996 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: his heart. What's meant to people be in this situation? 997 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, like if he and Arena 998 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,879 Speaker 1: are meant to you, know live the rest of their 999 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 1: lives together. It was this was meant to be. And 1000 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 1: if and if they don't, then maybe Joe will think 1001 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 1: about Kendall down the road. Oh boy, I have no idea, 1002 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:20,319 Speaker 1: but on TV, he say, should we know you're busy. 1003 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: We appreciate you. We're gonna let you go here. Thank 1004 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: you for joining us, Thanks for coming on, thanks for 1005 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 1: talking everything, Paradise, the upcoming season, your life at I 1006 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 1: heart fast, um, I wish you the best, keep shining 1007 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 1: bright and uh we'll talk to you soon. Thanks, guys, 1008 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: We'll see you later. By you. It's time for Bachelor headlines. 1009 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: It's a big deal for us. Actually, I want to 1010 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 1: start this out by asking you a question that I 1011 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: don't know that I texted you last night about didn't 1012 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,720 Speaker 1: answer me. So I'm gonna ask you on the podcast. 1013 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: Straight up, I did answer you. Oh you did answer me. 1014 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, I forgot. Okay, Well, anyways, I'm still 1015 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 1: gonna ask you because I want to talk it through 1016 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 1: with you. We have no clue. The next host of 1017 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 1: the Bachelor is right is Tastia and Kaitlin. The host 1018 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:03,360 Speaker 1: of this of this upcoming Bachelor season UM is Jesse Palmer, 1019 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 1: like we just recently had Like I've heard that there's 1020 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,439 Speaker 1: some rumors there about the Jesse Palmer and actually I'd 1021 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 1: be pretty down with that choice. So we'll see. They've 1022 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 1: used them for a few shows now at this point though, 1023 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 1: like they love Jesse Palmer. Yeah, I mean think about it. 1024 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: Didn't like this n z K used him for that 1025 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 1: one weird dating show that came out a few years ago. 1026 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, and now the Ultimate Surfer. I just 1027 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,719 Speaker 1: feel like it's kind of a build up. Yeah, it would. 1028 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,279 Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like a build up. I I 1029 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,279 Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked, obviously, he was an incredible guest a 1030 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 1: few weeks ago to us, Um, super nice guy. Not 1031 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,239 Speaker 1: gonna be shocked, just a little surprised, Like he wasn't 1032 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: a he wasn't even in my top five people that 1033 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 1: I thought would get the gig um he was in. 1034 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about him. Yeah, OK, fair enough. I 1035 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 1: mean I'm thinking about him. But I definitely thought they 1036 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: were going to go with more of a splashy celebrity 1037 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: unless of a Bachelor alum slash host that like you know, host, 1038 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 1: like a traditional host. Um, So we don't know yet, 1039 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 1: nothing confirmed, just the rumors. Something looking too. I'm just 1040 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,359 Speaker 1: surprised because they've obviously kind of started filming, uh this 1041 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 1: upcoming season, and uh, well, you would think the host 1042 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: would have been leaked or announced at this point. I 1043 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 1: don't know why it wouldn't. It's just super weird that 1044 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: it's not. Well, heways, Okay, let's dive into it. The 1045 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: Bachelor producers chose Clayton. If you haven't heard this, uh 1046 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 1: Etchard as the lead. He stood out right off the bat. 1047 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 1: This is according to US Weekly. Uh so he's the 1048 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 1: next Bachelor. He's on Michelle's season, Ashley, what made him 1049 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 1: stand out? Like? It feels like a very quick choice, 1050 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,840 Speaker 1: And obviously I'm looking at a picture of him with 1051 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: his shirt off right now. I think something stand out 1052 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 1: um from that picture in his muscles. His muscles are massive, 1053 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 1: but like everybody in the show's muscles are massive. So 1054 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,399 Speaker 1: what do they say stood out? Okay, so he's twenty eight, 1055 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 1: he's from his lurry. Producers say that he was the 1056 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,959 Speaker 1: best fit for the role. They wanted to switch things 1057 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: up and go with someone new and someone who hasn't 1058 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 1: been in the spotlight yet. Okay, that's kind of interesting. 1059 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 1: But we still don't really have a lot of information 1060 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:20,360 Speaker 1: as to why him. Why not somebody else from that season? 1061 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 1: Why not from so we'll see. We I wish I 1062 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 1: could tell you more, I really do. Um. We know 1063 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 1: that he played Division one football and then he played 1064 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 1: tight end. Uh. He attended MISSOO and oh he was 1065 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,400 Speaker 1: signed to the Seattle Seahawks as a free agent for 1066 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 1: a little while. He's a big family guy. He's a 1067 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 1: big fan of the outdoors and obviously exercising, obviously exercising. Well. 1068 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 1: He is the next Bachelor, is to you know, as 1069 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,280 Speaker 1: far as we know, there hasn't been officially announced. Uh uh, 1070 00:56:55,320 --> 00:57:00,839 Speaker 1: but you know it's pretty highly like speculated, considering he's 1071 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 1: been seen filming. The show themselves haven't came out and 1072 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 1: said anything against it. But here's an interesting headline. I've 1073 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,360 Speaker 1: been able to build a friendship with Michael, a great 1074 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 1: guy since his time on the show. He's been great 1075 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 1: to me. Um, just gotten to talk a lot about 1076 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,960 Speaker 1: his life and not a lot about the show. Um, 1077 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 1: but this headline reads this and and I kind of 1078 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: knew this about it. Bachelor lum Michael A says he 1079 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 1: doesn't know why he wasn't picked to be the twenty 1080 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 1: six Bachelor Succording to US Weekly, this is a shocking 1081 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 1: headline to me, Ashley, because I felt like he was 1082 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: a very clear, clear choice. Wait, I'm very much confused now. 1083 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: Maybe I haven't read or listened to enough of his 1084 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 1: interviews to fully comprehend. However, I thought that it was 1085 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: offered to him and that he declined. Am I completely wrong? 1086 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 1: As far as I understand, That's not the full way 1087 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: it went. It was offered, it was talked about. Um, 1088 00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 1: he had a lot of things with his son that 1089 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 1: he wanted to work through and then uh then he 1090 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 1: kind of I think, was like, hey, uh let's talk 1091 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 1: through this, and then it was too late. Like that's 1092 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: how I understood him hanging. Well, now, I don't know 1093 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 1: that to be like, I'm not quoting him. This isn't 1094 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 1: coming from Michael. I don't know the story now, but 1095 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 1: I mean, if he's saying publicly that he's surprised, I 1096 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 1: know enough about this. Um, the whole thing behind the 1097 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 1: scenes says go, yeah, something happened, where like he shocked 1098 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 1: because it was never like it never felt like it 1099 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,919 Speaker 1: was gonna work out or something. I don't know, it's 1100 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 1: weird though, that they wouldn't go a head like been 1101 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 1: over backwards to make him the bachelor if he's wanting it, 1102 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: I know. These are the quotes we have from him. 1103 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:49,919 Speaker 1: He was asked this week, Uh, why he isn't the Bachelor, 1104 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,919 Speaker 1: and he just said, I don't know. He said, I'm 1105 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 1: sure the next one is going to be a really 1106 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 1: good one. And then he's also said there have been 1107 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 1: This is a couple of weeks ago. He said, there 1108 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: have been discussions, no decision has been made. Apparently now 1109 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: the decision has been made. He says he had reservations 1110 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: being a contestant. Those reservations are heightened even more when 1111 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,360 Speaker 1: you're the lead. Obviously there's like a lot of shiny 1112 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 1: things that come to come with being the lead, but 1113 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 1: sometimes not everything that shimmers is gold. My son, my lifestyle, 1114 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 1: What do I what do I want after this? Uh? 1115 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 1: Maybe am I ready to introduce my son to random 1116 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 1: people that he doesn't know? Maybe I don't know. Uh. 1117 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 1: He did say that if he was a bachelor on 1118 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 1: his son, James would be there. They've made accommodations for 1119 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 1: people in the past. Um, he's referring to Jason Mesnick 1120 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 1: and Emily Maynard. He said, I'm thirty seven. I'm not 1121 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 1: looking to date around and do all that. Casting is 1122 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 1: totally different, location is different. Um, that is when they 1123 00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 1: accommodate the child usually, so I mean, that's in my 1124 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 1: personal opinion, it sucks. I wanted to see Michael Ay 1125 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 1: as the bachelor. I wanted to see them accommodate the 1126 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 1: sun and have a single dad. Uh there's never been 1127 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 1: a widow before. Uh, a widower before. And uh, I 1128 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,360 Speaker 1: just I thought that he kind of had all the 1129 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,880 Speaker 1: makings of a good bachelor and uh, whenever, maybe we 1130 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 1: will all fall in love with this guy, Clayton. I'm 1131 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,120 Speaker 1: sure we will. He has big shoes to Phil if 1132 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 1: you're replaced in Michael Ay. I was a big mic 1133 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 1: clay fan. Well, hey, former bachelor. Wam Pablo reunites with 1134 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 1: x Nicki Farrell after seven years wild wild Wild Ashley. 1135 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 1: Why they reunite? What's going on? We don't really know 1136 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:44,200 Speaker 1: why they reunited, but they reunited at the plaza in 1137 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 1: Kansas City where Nikki is a pediatric nurse, and they 1138 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 1: were all smiley, uh and and um. Wam Pablo captured 1139 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:58,240 Speaker 1: the picture. Great seven years of catching up with Nicki Farrell. 1140 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,280 Speaker 1: So they they got ice cream and they just seemed 1141 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 1: like very I mean, how bizarre, how bizarre. But I 1142 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 1: guess maybe they never left off on as bad of 1143 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,280 Speaker 1: terms as we would have thought. We never really did 1144 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 1: see like how their relationship ended. We just saw how 1145 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 1: he was on the Bachelor, and I guess we would 1146 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 1: have assumed that he broke up with their they broke 1147 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 1: up and it was dirty, because like all his breakups 1148 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 1: on the show, seems kind of dirty. Well, next headline, Bachelor, 1149 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 1: it's been at Jordan. We're gonna answers to why he 1150 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 1: wasn't in Paradise because he introduced his girlfriend Emily Chen 1151 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 1: after skipping Bachelor in Paradise is. According to US Weekly, Yeah, 1152 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 1: he posted on Instagram he said, meet Emily. I'm pretty 1153 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 1: sure she's a real life angel. He said, Aside from 1154 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 1: being the most graceful Yogi I've ever seen in my 1155 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,280 Speaker 1: fifteen years of practice, she has the best heart and 1156 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,760 Speaker 1: spirit of anyone I've met. You're going to see a 1157 01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,840 Speaker 1: lot more of us. But if you want to feel 1158 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,560 Speaker 1: more inspired, more enlightened, grow stronger, live a little lighter, 1159 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 1: and feel more connected and graded in your life, I 1160 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 1: encourage you to follow her. I'm pretty much the luckiest girl. 1161 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm pretty much the luckiest guy in the world. Uh. 1162 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if they were together while Paradise was filming. 1163 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 1: I guess like part of you kind of like assumes 1164 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,160 Speaker 1: that they would be because he wasn't part of the 1165 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 1: Paradise cast, and I would have assumed that he was 1166 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,919 Speaker 1: a shoeing for it. Um So I'm gonna go ahead 1167 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 1: and assume there was some sort of talking to for 1168 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:32,960 Speaker 1: a while, but I wouldn't be shocked. And good for him, right, 1169 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,280 Speaker 1: I mean good for him that he found somebody that said, Hey, 1170 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna want a show. I don't need followers, 1171 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 1: I need a girlfriend, I need a partner. I'm happy 1172 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 1: for him. Well, um so we're celebrating that. And final 1173 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 1: headline comes from somebody we just had on the podcast today. 1174 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 1: The headline reads this, Tashia Adams. Adams admits to tough 1175 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 1: times with fiance Zach Clark. We want to make it work, 1176 01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,120 Speaker 1: So basically, she says, whenever we're asked about the wedding, 1177 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 1: we are no closer to getting a wedding plan than 1178 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,600 Speaker 1: we were a year ago. We just can't wait to 1179 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,200 Speaker 1: actually just be together and continue to grow our relationship. 1180 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: Wedding plans someday on the horizon, but right now, we're 1181 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 1: enjoying New York and we have a marathon to look 1182 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 1: forward to. We have a lot on our plate right now. 1183 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 1: She said that there's a true special connection there that 1184 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,000 Speaker 1: they knew that they had instantly, and she says that's 1185 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,480 Speaker 1: what's really helped them carry the relationship through tough circumstances 1186 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 1: like her being gone for months at a time to 1187 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 1: film and them living on different coasts at certain times. 1188 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 1: She said, truthfully, if we didn't have that, I don't 1189 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 1: know that we would have been able to last. But 1190 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 1: she also says it's been pretty tough the distance, but 1191 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 1: also at the same time, they love each other so 1192 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 1: much and they want to make it work, and that's 1193 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 1: really all you need at the end of the day, 1194 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,320 Speaker 1: we hope to make it work. Cheering for those two. Well, Hey, 1195 01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 1: that's uh what we got for the Almost Face podcast today. 1196 01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 1: Great episode. Uh, we had Tacia Adams on. We broke 1197 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 1: down this week's episode of Bachelor Paradise broke down some headlines. 1198 01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 1: It's been awesome, it's been great spending time with you. Ashley, 1199 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:12,760 Speaker 1: but hey, I've been been, and I've been Ashley. Follow 1200 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,520 Speaker 1: the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on I 1201 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 1: Heart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.